Elon Musk: Working from home is 'morally wrong'

Silicon Valley “laptop classes” need to get off their “moral high horse” with their “work-from-home bulls***,” Tesla CEO Elon Musk told CNBC’s David Faber in a Tuesday interview. Watch the full video here: • Tesla CEO Elon Musk: '...

[@ponce-87]

I'm a truck driver and obviously I can't work from home, But if you're in a occupation that can work from home I 100% support it. Traffic on the freeways is complete disaster, the more people that can work from home the better. Let's keep the highways open for people that have to actually go into work and can't stay home.

[@davide724]

Yeah, but your truck is a second home. 😉😀

[@ponce-87]

@@davide724 technically you're right. But I hate traffic so let's keep office workers at home lol

[@samuelalley7331]

Well said and good logic. Elon is off base. It could be a bad decision for some people, but that is totally a personal understanding of what is good for your lifestyle. Individuals should use their own wisdom and descretion, not a one size fits all rational from Elon.

[@sanjuu1988]

As long as the productivity stays the same

[@jmm1817]

Yes I agree one hundred percent it depends on what industry you're in I'm a Wholesale Distributor my work-from-home I do mostly all shipping I live in Southern California the freeways are mess there's no point of me driving around I don't have to

[@dlyras]

You know what's morally wrong? To sit in traffic for 2 hours a day. That's 10 hours a week wasted.

[@Dolomite1]

Thanks to y'all peasants voting for R and D politicians who rather steal millions $ than invest in an outstanding public transportation, taking care of mental health issues, etc, but they just pocket all the $ they can, all still take advantage of the taxes loopholes including Trump who obviously didn't change it. In the end, both R and D are the same thing pretty much, and they both do an amazing job at splitting the peasants so they can all keep getting extremely rich.

[@talmboutcris]

Boring company

[@saberrider3659]

@@ServiceUnavailable What if you die when teleported and someone who looks and acts exactly like you, with the same memories and stuff, gets re-created there? Teleportation is scary stuff man.

[@caseywamack6789]

I was thinking the same thing. If you go to work just to sit at a computer or at the phones it's wasted time, energy and more traffic when it's not necessary. Also if you have kids or elderly to care for it's invaluable. I usually agree with Elon though.

[@cxveeeee9311]

And 16 hours of pollution produced

[@workandplay717]

What’s actually morally wrong is tax evasion from billionaires.

[@favored6007]

Say it louder for the people in the back!!! 💯

[@d4rkblu386]

Elon paid 11 figures in taxes. Not sure what crack you're smoking

[@peonyflowers23]

Well said.

[@umadbro4493]

theft evasion?

[@HamstringCollector]

​@umadbro4493 nope tax evasion. Taxation is not theft, its the price of the services provided to us by the government. If you want a stateless society so badly Antarctica is nice this time of year.

[@ChoosenPeople]

This is a terrible argument. By this standard it’s morally wrong he’s a billionaire but his employees aren’t………

[@IveInterpreter-nj7vl]

I’d like to give your comment a billion likes.

[@Alienshade]

Elon musk is a hype baby. He is nothing without the people that work for him. It is said that instead of buying twitter he could have paid his workers some money. To show that he appreciates them.

[@djimiwreybigsby5263]

Typical overlord

[@jordanbabcock9349]

​@@Alienshadeyes. Rich people should give everything away! The poor should not do more!

[@blafferdist]

Why not? Becoming a billionaire is free. One must work hard to be poor.​@@jordanbabcock9349

[@vlpet]

Car manufacturer saying it's morally wrong to not drive to work.

[@vaeldrnero6251]

Guy who extracts materials from mines with literal slaves tells you that you are immoral because you can work from home while a home repair guy needs to come to the home to repair it.

[@dgabrielm]

Underrated comment

[@Truckdriver2022]

Well to be fair, he didn't say his workers need to drive to work. They can uber, bike, or take public transportation.

[@kurt10k74]

​@@vaeldrnero6251literal slaves? Lol. Clueless.

[@GGPointOfView]

Nah he is extremely hardworking person and I understand the premise, but it’s not like I do it because it’s under me to go somewhere or I am lazy, I just make more money this way, at this point in my life.

[@Hondstyles]

Drive to work, sit in traffic for 2 hours, pull out your laptop and sit at a desk.

[@Nycku007]

Or take a goddamn train. Laptop workers usually live in developed countries. Most of the time ,public transportation shouldnt be an issue.

[@TheKingTywinLannister]

@@Nycku007 no

[@Nycku007]

@@TheKingTywinLannister 👌👍

[@actuallyarman]

Government makes public transport system for a reason

[@jorgerodriguera6890]

​@@Nycku007i dont think this is realistic at all. I know for a fact its imposible in most places in mexico and even in san francisco i know people that use public trsnsportation and its a big waste of time. I work way more hours working from home than i ever did at the office. Most of my teammates would agree

[@joneslt]

I couldn’t disagree more. Since working from home, I’m way more productive at work, I have more $ in my pocket, more time with family, I’m healthier, happier and have more energy…my company saves on office space and I’m not polluting the environment. It’s a win win all the way around.

[@DesertlizzyThe]

Exactly 👍👌😝

[@leewhitbeck791]

I am a type a personality. I do have Strick hours. This guy needs to get off his high horse. Elon, you are NOT in the same category as Einstein. NEXT! I'm not drinking the coolaide.

[@hellskitchen360]

What’s morally wrong is for someone to sit behind the wheel of a car for over two hours a day then sit at a desk in a cubicle for eight hours a day.

[@WeiFinder]

I'm at that point where if an employer requires me to work in the office, I say thanks for the interview, good luck. You'd literally have to pay me double for me to accept in-office work.

[@Wildbill699]

Man who owns a car company thinks people should travel to work SHOCK

[@darkknightwater]

well said lolol

[@ivanvincent7534]

A man who starts a company based on reducing carbon emissions is against working from home.. FFS

[@unclejesse4271]

He slept in the fsctory

[@moisestorres9618]

Yeah if everyone worked from home less people might buy his cars to commute to work.

[@imagerydiversions6127]

Lol great point

[@omrtheater7244]

Sorry Elon, that's the stupidest argument against WFH I ever heard.

[@alexman8800]

Outside of my own WFH job, I have other WFH jobs too, and they are 1) fixing my own car, 2) fixing my own plumbing 3) cutting my own lawn, etc.

[@michaelfilipelli2968]

Easily the stupidest argument. Makes zero sense

[@hawkgeoff]

Paraphrase: "Elon, shhhh... I don't want to have to got into work... I wanna sit in my PJs and work on a laptop."

[@Odog78]

​@@hawkgeoffyou just sound mad that you can't flip burgers in your Ferrari bed.

[@jayjayx5x1]

It’s a fact they’re less productive… Soooo, kind is right. Environment dictates productivity. And ain’t no average person curating a productive environment at home… Because if they did, well they wouldn’t be average now would they?

[@MsMoeb]

Working from home enables: - Felxibility with personal life - less stress when dealing with bad managers - Mutual trust - avoid meaningless meeting and focus more on delivery - avoid wasting hours on traffic which is obviously not paid by the employer - Getting the best profiles that WILL ask for home working anyway - Reduce the need to have enormous offices - And probably a billion more arguments. Elon is totally out of his socks.

[@MsMoeb]

@@deebee3174 That's because you failed as a manager AND as a recruiter. As a manager, you need to be working closely with your employee to monitor tasks properly, to ensure enough work is done and also not too much to avoid burn outs. As a recruiter, you need to be good enough to understand what people will fit remote positions. If you think people can't be lazy while working in offices, you are deluted, to stay polite :-)

[@MsMoeb]

@@deebee3174 allowing remote working will yield you the best profiles that have personal exigence. The other will be the mediocre ones.

[@MsMoeb]

@@deebee3174 No, you failed because you can't manage to follow progress of tasks. Working isn't the subject, making stuff done IS the subject. Your job as a manager isn't to monitor if they are working or not. Your job is to monitor if they get their tasks done in time and with good quality standards. If not, then you didn't do one of your job as a manager: Production/work Planning & deadlines management. Also: If you hire someone that you can't trust: You either failed in your recruitement process, OR you are a control freak that can't trust an employee to make his job. In both situation: You failed. You can complain all you want, but I, my self, run a team of 34 tech dev that are working remotely for 90% of them, and everything is wokring perfectly and in timely manner. Allowing full remote working enable to get the best profiles too. Because the best profiles wants fexibility, and not an over-controling boss. Free tips for you: Learn to trust your employee, they will give it back to you time 10. If they don't: Coach them to do so, if they still dont: Fire them.

[@KaustNothane]

I manage about 50 people and we have seen positives from WAH, I will say bad apples always exist, but those are few and far between. Being a good leader helps. Also, studies show it works. Elon is wrong here. It is a control dynamic and they do work better for HIM when he can YELL directly at them.

[@MsMoeb]

@@KaustNothane pretty much yup

[@lifeisgood9474]

Totally disagree, if anything, its morally wrong that you're a multi billionaires off the backs of your factory workers.

[@Wildman-zh8lg]

Cry me a river

[@lifeisgood9474]

@@Wildman-zh8lg lol, I wrote a statement about how I disagree with wtf he's saying, not crying you loser

[@lifeisgood9474]

@@Wildman-zh8lg lame comment, I'm commenting on him talking about morals, you saying cry you a river like as if youre on his boat lol

[@veskaivanova9070]

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[@lifeisgood9474]

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[@Meatneak]

So you're telling me my Tesla with FSD can drive itself while everyone else has to drive their car by themselves ? It's morally wrong !!

[@user-lx6xg5cb5u]

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 well done!

[@ShadowsOfTheBeast1]

💯💯💯💯💯👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 . God bless you, I normally agree with musk some of the time and this time he is dead wrong!

[@vuvolt3075]

👏👏👏That's right! Tell him to give us all Teslas to drive us to work and take us home then.

[@vuvolt3075]

​@@ShadowsOfTheBeast1Me too, but you're correct, he's dead wrong on this one

[@julieterrell7921]

😂😂😂 touche

[@generichuman_]

I've never been so happy to be "morally wrong".

[@Toyotacorollaaltis-cn9fd]

@@Elonmusk-os9wtreally idiot no ones falling for this

[@mariano7699]

Capitalism

[@LordBorz]

Good. Now I gain the advantage!!🗿

[@Rick-bi9fw]

Well see ho long that lasts

[@Rick-bi9fw]

​@@LordBorzhe doesnt have a job.

[@RareMusicSpam]

The way his employees are treated is morally wrong so…

[@d4rkblu386]

Really? Decent wages? As much overtime as you could possibly want? Sounds kinda nice to me

[@RareMusicSpam]

@@d4rkblu386 there have been endless complains on the structures in which they used which have been reportedly been falling apart, scarsity of protections and a couple more things

[@DavidLopez-rk6em]

​@@d4rkblu386You're stupid. His companies pay lower wages than competitors and he's anti union. So their benefits and worker protections are also lower than competitors. People that work at his companies are often overworked with no compensation

[@veltriv914]

What's morally wrong is people not being paid a salary where they could ever live near their jobs in expensive urban centers, and are then forced to take trains that go 2 miles an hour and got built in the 1800s to get to work

[@Midwestmint]

As someone who works in a factory, WHO CARES?? If people can work from home, let them.

[@johnwick884]

You are so right

[@carlosdelvalle9100]

What do u do at the factory?

[@Herogames2022]

If everyone does how do you get your Food>?

[@Midwestmint]

@HERO GAMES Well, that's why I said "IF people can" Clearly, some jobs you can't work from home, including mine. But if someone just works in an office, I don't really care if they work from home or not.

[@middleagedjabroni]

Obviously you did

[@WhatYaReading]

This is how the elites put one group against another.

[@trollnerd]

For real. Calling us the "laptop class" in order to put blue collar workers against us, as if we're the ones putting 99 cents of every dollar they make for the company in our pockets. We're in the same crappy situation as them, we're just slightly better off.

[@holoholohaolenokaoi2299]

Love this Elon fellow

[@peaches4623]

Exactly

[@khetto1]

​@@holoholohaolenokaoi2299you gonna be one of the geniuses on the death trips to Mars?

[@rudygracia5573]

It's not just Elites;People are ALSO causing divisions.Like the mass migration from Northern&Western States to Southern States.

[@writerchick94]

Elon Musk trying to arbitrate morality is LAUGHABLE

[@darrenmackay2303]

We can All, Learn a Lesson or Two, from Elon, about Morals.

[@hamhead2765]

@darrenmackay2303 I think you could learn a lesson or two about where to place capitals and commas in a sentence.

[@leewhitbeck791]

Ok! This is getting creepy. If you , Elon , have a moral problem of some kind, What are you doing about how America took over Hawaii???? And what are you doing about all the displaced Hawaiians that can no longer afford to live in their own Country....Yes, Hawaii was never surrendered. So, put a sock in it!

[@krist0_citizen]

"Stop working from home - it lowers demand for the cars I'm selling!"

[@mraf8582]

You have a yacht, I don’t. Isn’t that morally wrong?

[@jaredweiman2987]

No. It means you don't have the money he does. But you also aren't putting rockets into space and EVs on the road.

[@shellylavigne5913]

The laptop crowd… yep. Eating cake and getting crumbs in the keyboard

[@SeniorJr815]

Elon is constantly working. You people trying to hate on Elon every chance you get are creepy

[@ax85114]

Best comment

[@mraf8582]

@@jaredweiman2987 sarcasm..

[@Matt333ETH]

By that logic, none of us should work in an office either- the people who built it worked outside in the heat, so we should too

[@ZachGood]

A friend of mine works in a prison. We should all work around dangerous inmates because he’s forced to do so.

[@purpleXpotion]

The people who ran plumbing for the building had to work in the sewer. All office cubicles, laptop equipment, & rolley chairs.. to the sewer!! 😂

[@FiatVoluntasTua888]

🤣😂

[@user-bh5in4xf3q]

Yeah agree ....totally nonsense.. we have showers Africans don't.... moral issue.... we go to office by car, people in africa go walking.... another moral issue... you are a millionare runing a company that produce car who exploits african miners... we are not... moral issue

[@Shadowlief]

​​@@user-bh5in4xf3q To be fair, Elon is African American. And if he is taking advantage of African Miners, I'm just saying Africans were the ones who started slavery, one of the few exports they ever had. On a more serious note, he actually used to sleep in his office instead of going home when things were starting up at Tesla.

[@mellowmayelo]

This is a perfect example of a miserable person feeling the need to make others miserable as well

[@RhetoricalMuse]

It's not a moral issue. He is wrong here.

[@Chdk24]

I can’t work from home in my job but I’ve got no issue with anyone that can. As long as you can be productive, working from home will give you a much better quality of life, no travelling, can cook a healthy meal, on your lunch break you can put the washing on or do the dishes. I see way more positives than negatives to it.

[@davidfoote696]

It gets abused by some people for sure. BUT i remember working onsite and theres PLENTY of time being wasted there too lol.

[@chochooshoe]

the problem is for some jobs technically yes you can absolutely work from home but in reality it makes the work much less efficient. it probably does provide many benefits that make your non work life better but it will make your work worse. of course many people only talk about how it makes it better for the non work part and refuse to admit there's a downside for the actual work aspect.

[@davidfoote696]

@chochooshoe it depends on the person. If they are a responsible, accountable person, their work doesn't suffer. Also management makes a big difference. I have quotas I have to meet everyday. My managers are more concerned about getting my tasks done, rather than being glued to my desk. Depends on the type of job. Pros and cons all the way around work from home vs on site.

[@aarontaylor9458]

I believe a lot of ultra wealthy people become out of touch with reality. He's saying "fair is fair" but it really doesn't make sense to have people commute to an office everyday for something that CAN be accomplished from home

[@hendrx]

its a car company, he can't afford people realizing they dont have to commute

[@underdogtv2855]

Most people in the US are out of touch with reality that's why Russia invaded Ukraine because they knew the US is living in LALA land.

[@bludika]

he's done more real, hard work than you ever have lol, shut up

[@bobo-is-great]

That's because those that work at home don't have to be managed at work by a middling manager so if home workers are getting their work done then you won't need that middle layer of management...that's a great way to save company money.... YOUR 🔥 Fired!!

[@clairechloe5294]

👍👍👍👍Well said.

[@afro84]

The idea that everyone needs to suffer because some people can't have it is insane. Shall we all have the health care standards of Sudan because otherwise it's morally wrong?

[@JennyofOldStones713]

If your job is something physical like an electrician, a plumber, an ER nurse, a firefighter, a food delivery person (delivery is literally in the job title), no you CANNOT work from home. If you’re a computer programmer/designer, or a human resources manager, or an insurance agent, etc, you CAN work from home. You cannot compare a a food delivery person to a computer programmer. One is needed physically, the other isn’t.

[@favored6007]

Exactly. He's comparing apples with oranges.

[@mc-nm6ml]

Then it’s also morally wrong for someone to have a job indoors while other people have to work outside. Let’s all sit in the mud together laptop or shovel so we can all be equal.

[@julianseiler8436]

Exactly !! Sorry but that sentense what Elons said just say idiots

[@yallonlytalksmoke4587]

So how tf am I gonna account for a company going bankrupt before it happens using a shovel outside 😂

[@peonyflowers23]

Love this! 😂😂😂😂 😂 Correct

[@tofuguru941]

That's a bit of a stretch bud. You can change your job if you don't wanna work in the mud. You're talking about occupation, musk is talking about being cozy at home while working vs anywhere but home.

[@joakos1122]

The guy who built his own tunnels because he hates traffic telling everyone to wait in traffic thats perfect

[@mushylog]

He builds tunnels so that the traffic is more fluid. His tunnels will allow for less time spent in traffic. Also he never said to wait in traffic; now THAT is perfect

[@1chasehayez]

So he’s trying to find more efficient methods for people who do leave the house to be productive? Also, does anyone enjoy sitting in traffic?

[@joakos1122]

@@1chasehayez the best way to reduce traffic is to allow employees to work from home

[@joakos1122]

@@mushylog tunnels eventually become congested speed limit would be 50mph people tend to drive even slower than that in tunnels. A mile of tunnels costs over a billion dollars compared to $900,000 for conventional roads. Tunnels would be much better used for subway railways than single person vehicles

[@mattysheehan9786]

@@joakos1122 Bro bro, The tunnels he’s speaking of are these magnetic levitation capsules that travel at bullet train speeds

[@ebenezerkoomson8313]

The more people work from home, the less car they buy, the more car and transportation companies loses money.

[@jenc8953]

I completely disagree with him. It’s easy for him to say it’s wrong when he’s a billionaire and owns his own company, but for the rest of us it provides flexibility to juggle or family life and work, saves money on gas, saves money on food, you avoid a toxic work environment when you work from home. I’ve been working from home since the pandemic and there is nothing that will take me out of my comfortable, peaceful home to go work with a bunch of bullies in the office, no thank you.

[@deepanshuv]

By that logic, he doesn't have a right to own billions while so many people are starving on this planet, it's morally wrong

[@Zeegoner]

Exactly

[@briarblack3938]

How is that the same? Bit of a reach.

[@Rauly84]

101 %

[@Rauly84]

Is just he likes to have Total CONTROL on his employees ...

[@ameliatah4107]

The billionaire class is living in Lala land

[@plokkum]

I sometimes work on location with clients. I can confirm that working from home is a LOT more productive.

[@davidfoote696]

I think some people thrive working onsite, and some thrive working from home. I prefer working from home, but if my line of work required me to work onsite, then so be it. No ill will either way

[@d-_-b8558]

@@davidfoote696 Difference between your line of work requiring it and your boomer boss requiring it. Certain jobs (currently) need to be done in person, like surgeons, nurses, grocery store clerks, food service, hairstylists, etc. With current technology there's no getting around that. Any job that can be done entirely on a computer/phone, there is absolutely zero reason to require in office work. Anyone who disagrees with that is coping or has a vested interest in office work. Muskrat here obviously is a car salesman and wants everyone driving. But there's also a lot of money to be lost in urban office real estate if that becomes worthless, and wealthy owners don't want that. Micro-managing middle management types also become less relevant when performance can still be tracked remotely, so there's a whole subset of careers that are threatened by WFH, too. Neither are valid arguments against WFH, though.

[@lanbatal-tech-vu3gz]

@@davidfoote696 big difference between working from office because its actually required. and working from office because "my commercial realestate market"

[@user-vy7iw4lf5o]

I have been remote for 8 years. I absolutely love it and I am highly productive without all the drama of the work place.

[@jameshewitt1281]

As a construction worker who has to travel home from boston everyday, i say work remote if you can! The more people working from home the less traffic i have to sit in😂

[@jry0511]

this is like having some nobleman lecturing peasants on the morality of some working in a shop while others toil in the fields. Just downright stupid.

[@KennethCadeth]

How on earth is that a reasonable comparison?!😂

[@mmhmm1296]

Yeah noblemen were’t nearly as rich

[@allen_the_king40848]

Hey Elon, ever heard of the management iceberg? No? Not surprised. Sorry Elon, but your front-line employees see 100% of the problems. Top management only sees the 3% above the surface.

[@LadyLilith435]

​@@mmhmm1296 Nobles had to provide for the peasants

[@valm.1287]

That fool is morally wrong!!! This greedy person has more slices of bread than anyone can eat in a lifetime, while others are starving and he does not share!!!!! People that think they have a right to control others are morally wrong. Tell that crap to parents who can't even afford to send children to child care. That guy is morally wrong!!

[@tonyisnotdead]

as someone who values the autonomy of individuals and hates the people who take that away, im pretty sure it's good that parents can't send their kids to child care

[@hi-et1oq]

Exactly and remember this dude wants the population keep growing for his greed

[@danstosich]

Totally disagree with Elon 1,000%!! It’s morally wrong to overwork your employees, grossly underpay them, offer them little to no PTO, and offer them subpar healthcare benefits with a $6,000 deductible, and then act like you just did your employees a huge favor-while you Elon collect billions of dollars and NOT donate money to help anyone except yourself. 🤔😱🤯

[@Will0wisp_]

What’s morally wrong is how much companies can get away with

[@frankiebee57]

Rich men know nothing about our struggles.

[@twstdreality]

I guess you don’t know Elon’s story then

[@allen_the_king40848]

Top management never does. They only see the tip of the employee iceberg.

[@twstdreality]

Most rich people are self made so they probably struggled at some point

[@brettcollins7041]

@@twstdrealityNO THEY ARE NOT. 88% of wealth, is inherited. Most rich people were given nearly everything they have

[@twstdreality]

@@brettcollins7041 most millionaires are self made

[@artistny0000]

Einstein worked out general and special relativity at home.

[@leofreese1]

U sure it wasn’t at the patent office? 🤔

[@BallinLongboarder209]

Nope he did this in a lab you goof… he needed help from all sorts of people to work that theory out, and he sure as hell didn’t have those people all come to his house to help him….. unbelievably ignorant comment

[@dingodave9160]

Einstein is a huge grab for your flimsy point.

[@elijahknox4421]

"I think working from home is extremely immoral. Listen to Elon." -Albert Einstein

[@BallinLongboarder209]

Einstein discovered those things in a lab, not at home. Not even close buddy

[@d-_-b8558]

I'm a big believer in working for your money. I think it's morally wrong for Elon to collect billions while not really doing any work himself.

[@KitCalder]

Do it yourself if it's that easy

[@imanicapri]

What is morally wrong is him speaking on it… he is a billionaire as a direct result of capitalizing and counting on the efforts of others to make his business run. Too many super rich, entitled folk are comfortable with having their lifestyle supported by the work of others to whom they do not pay or respect enough. This is not true for everyone who is wealthy or beyond millionaire status but the world needs to really get the message: The majority of decent working people do not want to be corporate slaves just to survive and provide for their families. The nature of working should continually evolve to benefit EVERYONE involved, and if the job can be done well from home then it should be no question. Hours lost in commuting and the other stressors that sometimes come with in-person jobs doesn’t have to be the rigid norm, a lot of people are over it and it doesn’t make them lazy or immoral. It makes them honest about wanting to fully enjoy their lives, their families, their right to flexibility and be able to provide for themselves.

[@Klako-ls6yt]

Can't imagine why the owner of a car company has a problem with people working from home.

[@noisepollution6761]

Bummed out 69 angry emos?

[@Sid_Personal_]

Use your 🧠 🤡

[@ogzombieblunt4626]

He's right

[@noisepollution6761]

The problem with divinity is you want everything to happen at once if you ask me. 🦎

[@markthomas7279]

That's a ridiculous argument.

[@AR-fh2uh]

I dedicate an entire room of my house as an office. I installed air-conditioning, i purchased my own desktop pc, backup storage, monitors, desk, chair, printer, peripherals, all at my own expense. I pay for my own power, internet, milk, and coffee. I also work early in the morning, late at night, and even weekends because I am set up to do so. The way I look at it, I am giving consulting input for employee salary. I do all of this to save the 15 hours per week employers were not paying me to commute. My only regret is the 25 years of my career that I didn't have the opportunity to work from home.

[@jeffo4817]

Milk and coffee , really?

[@AR-fh2uh]

@jeffo4817 i guess the point is, I take responsibility for my work environment and incidentals. I don't need the company acting like they are doing me a favour.

[@jeffo4817]

@@AR-fh2uh ok ok you win

[@marthacarbonero1385]

Well said

[@juliemendoza7258]

Early, late, nights and weekends...wow! Sounds like a bummer! No thanks.

[@samthachamp5035]

It is actually insane that people worship this guy 😭

[@someone8323]

His point is kinda valid because when I worked from home throughout the pandemic, I felt really guilty for the nurses, doctors and essential workers many of whom died for us. However, Elon trying to spout communism here is nothing short of comical. Elon, you’re a BILLIONAIRE. You’re literally not allowed to speak of the inequalities among those with 100k in the bank vs 10k. By that logic, please split your profits and also work like us regular folks - 9 to 5, no fun at yachts, no extended weekends etc. if you argue that you earned it, we earned it as well. Just because you earn it doesn’t mean you should have excess privilege since millions of workers contributed to your success. But you do have all your money. Leave us normies alone.

[@rulesmen]

I am a programmer and I get constantly interrupted by middle-manager in the office. Not a great place to be productive.

[@tyranmcgrath6871]

Radio was talking about eliminating mm first in country job cuts

[@rutherfordn7560]

Just playing devils advocate here because I’m a c# full stack programmer, you can just as easily get interrupted at home as you can in office

[@underedenxx]

Is programming a real job? 🤣🤣😆😆😂😂💀💀

[@mikey121981]

​@@rutherfordn7560 definitely not!

[@rutherfordn7560]

@@underedenxx you ask my $35/hr pay rate if it is

[@davec65]

I'm shocked that a guy who owns a car company wants you to drive to work.

[@Septem1991]

Listening to a billionare saying what is morally wrong, is morally wrong

[@LANFEAR93]

Why? He's the most hardworking person here on earth and definitely more than any of the geniuses here in the comment section. Your definition of Morals needs to be updated.

[@stt.9433]

"the laptop class is living in lala land", I'm dyingg

[@SpartanLawyer]

Of course he's against that. Employees who work in-person are easier to control and monitor. Less autonomy for the individual, more corporate oversight

[@HuntingTarg]

If you're satisfied having a job, then you don't value autonomy.

[@mollyhoney6155]

As they should. Workers should be controlled. They’re being paid. What? This is why China is doing so well and us entitled, lazy, soft fools are not

[@nocsheep]

Working from home is fine. It's like working indoors with AC. Not everybody has that luxury. It's life

[@azul1964]

The only time work from home is fine is when you live in the workplace. No more traffic😊

[@ShinRobS]

Telosico

[@AmanBansil]

TERRIBLE TAKE. Having to spend commuting and wasting so much of our lives working is the thing that is morally wrong. Having a kid and then barely seeing them is morally wrong. Printing money to devalue our earnings while not increasing salaries equally is morally wrong. The ONLY way out is to become an investor and own the companies these people run. OWN them all. Invest like your life depends on it; because, frankly, in today's world, it does.

[@LABeachBum]

If you want to reduce fossil fuel consumption then why not keep all those commuters off the road. Work from home helps save the environment.

[@civileit]

This guy pretends he wants to save the earth but he'd rather everyone sit in traffic for hours wasting fuel everyday, putting wear and tear on cars, to sit in a big office which is a huge waste of all resources. Sounds like he's the one who's on the high horse.

[@yashpatel261]

That is a good argument but i do not think he wants to save the earth. He just wants to make more industry and increase human expansion.

[@HablaCarnage63]

Well given he sells electric cars that expend little electricity while idle, I don’t think his goal is to burn hydrogen, gasoline, or diesel.

[@teresaamanfu7408]

@@yashpatel261 It seems to me, that he pretends he wants to save the Earth, but it’s all about his ego and greed.

[@rickywood8805]

Hickeys account for about 3% of total co2 emissions 😂😂

[@vuvolt3075]

Here's what's up. The less people drive, the less money he makes, because of less carbon emissions= we really don't have to buy an electric car.😂😂

[@SimonFranck100]

It's morally and ethically right and good to not waste time, fuel, space and your employer's money

[@rodeanabean4019]

Seriously ? A moral issue? Is having 12 kids , who don't see their dad often a moral issue?

[@donaldlawson1334]

With inflation and the need for two parents to work, it helps tremendously being able to work from home so I cut back on time in traffic, get stuff done over lunch, get dinner started the minute I log off so it’s ready for my family when they get home, go down to one car etc. the benefits are many. If you’re getting your work done, it shouldn’t be an issue

[@jaymondal2466]

Damn Elon - you get to have a private jet but the workers in your factory don’t .. Is that morally fair?

[@thadd1116]

Yes it is. Elon creates much more value than an unskilled factory worker. Therefore he gets to have more. Should elon instead travel by horse and carriage since its more likely his factory workers can also afford that?

[@lettersandwordsandstuffs]

​@@thadd1116horse and carriage are more expensive than cheap cars lol Elon is worth how much and has a yacht lol oh yea it's a business yacht lol gtfoh I like Elon...but he doesn't want his employees working from home lol he wants eyes on them is why I'd guess

[@chris-cy5ed]

​@@lettersandwordsandstuffsno it's not

[@chris-cy5ed]

​@@lettersandwordsandstuffslost horses are free now days

[@jestercastillo4168]

No one stopping anyone to have a private jet. If you can afford it, get it 😅. This is the most dumbsicle statement i read so far 🐝

[@foltzmusik1]

Elon is a genius, but I think this is the dumbest thing he’s ever said.

[@alyoshapearce5985]

No I think if you look closely you will find that he is basically a very lucky moron in every sense of the word.

[@renatarukavina]

And also that the world is facing under population

[@kobiecamp1134]

Elon is like the mad scientist with a smile on his face.

[@aruncv1373]

He is not smart.

[@forno-nicolas]

Same man... This is not so much brilliant

[@DesertlizzyThe]

Get this, a nurse told me that ITS unhealthy to be poor as it is to be rich! Is he afraid if losing employees in a changing workplace ?

[@alexanderjenselius2004]

I have seen several friends work from home. And everytime I feel bad for their companies. People working from home are slacking so hard

[@thecrabpulsar]

My productivity as an IT worker is far higher and more efficient use of time working from home rather than spending 3 hrs everyday commuting to work. Rich people like Musk who doesn't need to spend time on childcare, doing the school rounds, commuting on public transport, spending a quarter of wages on travel not to mention the lost time can talk off their backside about moral issues but in reality for many modern office workers going to the office everyday is a huge drain both physically and on the wallet.

[@dmon1088]

He doesn't care, just trying to pit us against each other with irrational reasoning and appeals to emotion, a race to the bottom where he stands to make more money and exert more control. People like Elon praise equality and morals, while internally viewing almost everyone else as mindless grunts in need of an overseer. It's funny that he's factually incorrect more times than not, talk comes cheap to this guy. The 8/9 hour day is pretty much stretched to the limit of sane existence for the majority of people, add the commute and personal maintenance and you're left with almost nothing. Thank god for weekends - how about some team building?

[@sleeplessjam5358]

And of course you charge for the benefit of the additional hours worked. if that's the case

[@thej3799]

He's not talking about the jobs that can be done from a computer okay whether that computer sits in a cubicle at work or sitting at home That's not the jobs he's talking about The laptop class that he mentions okay is not the IT class all right IT has always had to answer phone calls to tell people to turn it off and turn back on and they can do that at home or you know in a cubicle That's not what he's talking about

[@rosalbadelriogarcia9598]

People need to work locally. We were at a factory and none of the people were local. Corporations talk about building local jobs and instead there's all kinds of labor staff agencies that rotate illegal foreign workers and these same agencies take part of the employees salary and these corporations get away with paying less than minimum wage.

[@alisonhunt9459]

Yes yes yes. Commute and useless interruptions at work a total time waste.

[@melvinlee5684]

The dumbest reasoning that I have ever heard from a man that is supposedly a genius.

[@thelaurels13]

He’s not a genius. He’s a good entrepreneur, but not that good considering Xs market value has dropped by 70% since he took over…definitely not a genius. The geniuses are the people he employs.

[@kylandterrell1691]

​@@thelaurels13exactly

[@KG-eh6jm]

I totally agree!

[@vorna]

@@thelaurels13 It dropped because big advertisers boycott twitter for allowing free speech protected by the first amendment instead of censoring it like every other big social media platform. Twitter actually keeps breaking it's own traffic records over and over since he took over.

[@Wardyworlds]

He's not a genius though, he buys into other people's ideas helps them grow, employs new people, ditches the creators then rebrands it. He's done that with everything he owns.

[@bettyannbanuelos5824]

Productivity…. People work themselves to death and this one thing we mostly all love ( working from home) is morally wrong?!? STOP

[@cydneypfeiffer1573]

WORKING FROM HOME IS THE BEST WAY TO SAVE GAS ⛽️ AND WASTED TIME in Traffic ✅

[@wrystandata5318]

Not everyone can work from home? Okay not everyone can be a billionaire either

[@thatswhatshesaid6326]

Wait, what??? 😂

[@dancingruth]

He should give all his money away to even things out.

[@mastyer0fReality]

Democrats disagree

[@bryant475]

​@@dancingruthHe has charities, but no he shouldn't just give money away to lazy folks who don't want to work (unfortunately he pays a ton in taxes which helps pay for such people)

[@toastbrot97]

​@@bryant475 don't confuse poor people with lazy people. Often time the people that have the least have to work the hardest just to survive.

[@LazyPicture]

This is the worst work from home argument I’ve hears

[@bruh-tq2pw]

Welcome to the man running Tesla into the ground

[@gjstevens1141]

Wah, wah.

[@princessjulia5646]

It's the best opinion. I definitely agree his right

[@twstdreality]

How is it the worst? Please elaborate

[@LazyPicture]

@@twstdreality , why should people who are able to wfh go into an office just because other people don't have jobs that can be done from home?

[@user-rt9zq8rs9k]

Elon wants to watch his workers get underpaid and overworked .

[@fieldtinny33]

Having Billions while others in poverty in the USA. Mormally wrong?

[@jdjoja]

I think Elon should rethink this logic....The time, energy, pollution and traffic we could save if more people could work from home would be undoubtedly beneficial!

[@prestonhanson501]

The social destruction and contempt will be worse then not noticable pollution . You won't care about pollution when your world is at war outside your house

[@latashalea944]

Exactly!

[@underedenxx]

Reducing the human population by 50% would do that, too.

[@jdjoja]

​@@underedenxxYes, that will work as well! However, people are not ready to except that concept yet, so we have to work with what we got!

[@kallemetsahalme5701]

he should also rethink how morally right it is that he earns more money in a minute than almost everyone else working in a month. but he has a habit of seeing problems in environment, business or moral only when its against his personal gain. not all jobs are equal and he is the 1 person who should know it

[@jimwall2291]

Elon seems to think that if anyone has to suffer in a particular way, everyone has to suffer in that same way. That's sheer stupidity.

[@IcarusII3]

It’s a communist mentality to think everyone should be 100% equal in their jobs, finances, etc

[@anywhywho]

He doesn't think that, he just wants the plebs to suffer, it certainly doesn't apply to Mr Private Jet.

[@clintonfreeman7047]

​@anywherenotes2 Right Right exactly what he's doing. Love it

[@ATready]

​@@Imran51408syou think that's what he does all day? 😂.

[@clintonfreeman7047]

@Imran51408s he's so much better conservatives now. It used to be if you didn't think a kid could identify as a dinosaur they'd kick you off twitter.

[@rosswalters9021]

I used to drive 4-5 hours a day, 3 days a week. Now work from home. In the future people will look back and say, you drive 2-3 hrs to get to work in traffic, to open a laptop 💻 that you could open at home 🏠 madness

[@matthewbrown7048]

If working from home is morally acceptable (and i don't disagree) would it be morally acceptable for your employer to outsource your job to a cheaper country.

[@DarkReignFox]

What do you mean would. It already happens on a regular basis. Various companies including virgin media outsourced a lot of their phone support to india, because you guessed it, its cheaper. Our companies IT dept is now mostly outsourced to india or similar as well, thankfully hardly ever have to call them but when you do its always that accent you can barely understand.

[@Dumbluck14]

Don’t agree. Have worked successfully from home for 8 years. Not one sick day.

[@skonther0ck]

I am a structural engineer. I assure you of all the professions, this one is the least likely to tolerate living in la la land. I work with other engineers all over the country just fine via phone and computer. There is no need for me to drive for hours to some office to do the same thing from there. It’s idiotic. Elon, you may be a rich guy but your opinions on somethings are stupid.

[@corryburton9834]

For a structural engineer, If you arent smart enough to pay attention to his whole speech....I dont want you engineering my crap..

[@jdubdoubleu]

He said in the video there are exceptions to the statement he made. I'm pretty sure he's referring to you as the exception.

[@corryburton9834]

@@florida.cameron you'll have to excuse the guy that can't spell....he thinks elon musk is an idiot with 100 billion dollars....

[@stephan_clarkson]

Engineer is not a pro manager. Elon is 100% correct. You can't build motivated and united team of highly performing people remotely. Because they will not spend time together, chatting less to each other, do not taking coffees/lunches and etc. All this staff is very important and are tangible for business. They you describe is like do my staff and don't touch me because I don't care about everything. It is not kind of people you can find in SpaceX for example, especially on early stages of any ventures.

[@tiagomanueltorres4550]

Bilionaires really making minimum wage workers seem entitled just because they can do their work from home no problem

[@vcwloves9864]

Multiple baby mama's, and he's talking about morals??? This is the funniest thing ever.

[@ace1007]

I'm actually surprised Elon has such a rigid stance on this.

[@Jac0bIAm]

One of the dumbest takes on working from home I've ever heard.

[@twstdreality]

So loss in productivity is a dumb take?

[@LucinaMeow]

​@tmdaze9281 actually research has shown people who work from are more productive... so elon is inheritely wrong.

[@AEO21Productions]

Elon is high IQ.. and seems to always be one of the most well prepared thinkers when it comes to tech and development.. but this Mcdonald’s Happy Meal of an argument is a great example of how we all have silly moments 😅

[@Fair-minded.]

I am glad that almost everyone here called bs from Elon

[@stant7122]

He’s got ulterior motives in what he’s saying. Which is probably true 90 percent of the time when any billionaire speaks

[@aristotle_4532]

He is right. Those who want to work from home merely want to exploit coworkers and their boss. Anyone who has his own business or works alone, knows that when you work this way productivity is reduced. Writers, accountants, programmers, lawyers can all work from home when they will work alone anyway, but nobody does it. They all go to their office. Even those who live alone take the time to go to their office.

[@wutm8]

​@@aristotle_4532wtf are you talking about? With computers your company can tell how much you are working and how productive you are being from home. We all like Elon but don't go from being a fan to a full on 🍆 rider. Have some shame my dude. He's wrong on this one

[@aristotle_4532]

@@wutm8 You do not even understand the basics of productivity. If you had written a novel, or started a company, or worked in collaboration on anything, you would know how valuable the environment is, from the work space that is dedicated to work to the social aspects of the work enviroment. It is better to work in the office if you are interested in productivity. If you are merely working for a salary and have no interest in productivity, you can work from home and claim your boss is being unreasonable.

[@aristotle_4532]

@@wutm8 You do not even understand the basics of productivity. If you had written a novel, or started a company, or worked in collaboration on anything, you would know how valuable the environment is, from the work space that is dedicated to work to the social aspects of the work enviroment. It is better to work in the office if you are interested in productivity. If you are merely working for a salary and have no interest in productivity, you can work from home and claim your boss is being unreasonable.

[@Michiganian8]

Right. This country always went to work & it showed how hard we work as a nation. I agree

[@mkcexperience5334]

Pushing Dogecoin instead of Bitcoin is morally wrong. Sooooo wrong.

[@halukccakir6614]

probably the stupidest thing Elon Musk said i guess.

[@Chesirecat111]

What’s messed up is thinking that there’s some arbitrary moral obligation to work from a particular place if it’s unnecessary. Only a simpleton thinks like that. Sadly, Elon Musk is a very wealthy dolt.

[@f.s.1429]

Someone who supports genocide dont know the meaning of moral.

[@CalifaJohn1]

The people who fix my house run their own independent business from their home.

[@HE360_Games]

There's nothing wrong with working from home!

[@sangabrielvalleygirl143]

Of course there isn’t! He’s off his radar!!

[@JennaRobertson]

I’m a mom of two kids under 4. I’m in real estate. I fought HARD to be able to work from home so that I’m there for my kids and can go and do things with them whenever I want. That choice will always be worth it vs having to send them to daycare all day just so I can be present in an office of people who could care less if they see me that day or not!

[@leegreene5148]

👏. Go play with ur toys Elon.

[@debbyrabold6069]

Good for you to be able to care for your children. They are better off for it being with their own loving mother. And you have peace of mind.

[@LlamaBearMan]

Good thing we dont make laws based on what someone thinks is immoral.

[@chandlerdouglas7273]

Delivering for UPS during covid all I did was deliver everyone computer desks and chairs so they can “work from home.” Don’t miss that lol

[@Andrew_L86]

As someone who works from home and doesn't need to work in office. I'm not on any moral high horse. I'm in the entertainment business and my job is strictly my input into a laptop. I think I would be more productive outside the home, but why commute when I don't need to? And my plan is to be around for my kids, not stuck away from the house just a breadwinner. I don't care about fairness of other workers, the world is unfair. Trying to compare work effort is something the bible warns about. I'm more worried about people having to overwork themselves to the point they can't be parents to their kids and contribute to a bigger moral problem of kids not having parents and instead having phones etc be.

[@HuntingTarg]

See, he's an employer, and admitting you might be more productive at an office is something most employers will jump on. Not because they don't care about emoloyees, but because the world of business is full of competition and caprice and taxes and tight margins & schedules... And if their business shrinks, that's bad for some of their employees. And if their business fails that's bad for ALL their employees. And most employees are clueless or unconcerned about all of this. The unspoken conventional wisdom is this: That in the statistical main, employers pay employees just enough to not quit and employees work just hard enough not to get fired. Anything more is dessert for somebody.

[@DMTCYMATICSDreamMusicTemple]

I moved abroad to love and live at home with my kids. I work as a sound designer from home. I spend time with my kids and happy I’m not working in a factory etc. I’ve done all that office and factory work in the past. I’ve never been happier than I am now. I don’t have a boss since I am my own boss, I have customers that are loyal. Thanks for your comment. I agree with you and wish you a beautiful life.

[@Andrew_L86]

@@DMTCYMATICSDreamMusicTemplePretty cool man, checked out your channel. You've been busy. Live a good life yourself and God bless.

[@panama-canada]

You choose your profession. If you work in a factory, you go to factory. I choose different, to work from my home. Morality is in order. Next.

[@user-sm4em5je4y]

It’s truth !!!!! Working class can’t work from home

[@Neurochrom]

It's morally wrong for mr Musk to enjoy sunlight while those poor miners work deep under the surface of the earth. All people should work under the surface.

[@robcarfa9782]

He's provided jobs for those people and pays them well!

[@mosthonestcommentor]

​@@robcarfa9782by steaing their surplus:)

[@morningstarx5340]

​@@mosthonestcommentor Not only did they consent to work for him, they asked him if they could work for him - and agreed on their wages. Marx understood economics yet still made the dumbest economic conclusions somehow.

[@merle-wq9ir]

Oh my oath woe is me! So many unhappy jealous envious folk out there! What have you done to be more successful yob?!

[@merle-wq9ir]

​@@mosthonestcommentor Pathetic!!! Get iff your asz abd fjnd yiur iwn success!

[@lom218]

Working from home is morally wrong, but sleeping in the office is ok, apparently

[@twstdreality]

@@drebin178ok so I guess his employees who witness this all the time are all lying

[@TehKarmalizer]

It’s great if all you care about is your work.

[@KennyAce]

Elon musk just told you that he believes in communism

[@Jcv95]

No reason for him to sleep in his office other than convenience… people just come to his office to get the ok on things, all of that could be done through a phone call. Elon is not building the cars himself, he just has to attend meetings or give the okay when it comes to new ideas for his cars. He serves no purpose other than being a green light and there is literally no reason for him to sleep at the factories/office other than convenience lol Or he is trying to convince the workers that his giving his all for his company and they should too. No job is worth killing yourself for

[@never_give_up90]

A lot of ppl didn't get what he said! I work from home and I don't disagree. His opinion is valid. 1. Productivity falls with most ppl working from home 2. Same company choosing ppl to work from different places can become unfair. 3. It only makes sense if you have no choice. Your commute issues are related to the job distance, not what he is referring to.

[@alwaysinmymind181]

I agree! Even I am a lazy person to wake up every morning, but I still prefer go to work at the office, work from home make me tired and do not forcus

[@derekmoore3105]

Absolutely the last person who should ever speak about morals

[@ScooterOnHisWay2024]

Outside of yourself?

[@derekmoore3105]

@@user-rj7qr1uu5e because his family amassed their fortune off of “modern slavery”. But of course that’s a topic that people will always try to bury

[@derekmoore3105]

@@ScooterOnHisWay2024 I’m not the one who’s trying to rule the world

[@derekmoore3105]

@@user-rj7qr1uu5e I’m speaking about the emerald mines in Africa that were owned by his family

[@allen_the_king40848]

I guess being a billionaire and hoarding over a lifetime of moolah while the general population struggles to even get through life surviving is “morally acceptable”.