The Ultimate Trail Bike Under £4000? | Giant Stance E+

[@embn]

Are you looking at buying a new eBike? Would you consider the Stance? Let us know in the comments section 👇

[@Bitplanebrother]

already got the stance e+2 from 2022 for a bargain price (2400€)....bought it in april as my first E-MTB..so far i could handle anything i thow at it .(1700 KM ridden by now..and i do have 105KG)! i love it!..but the back seems to be a little to Flexible, since my question..😉

[@thompsy2k6]

Yes but what's the max user weight limit?

[@Bitplanebrother]

max total limit is 156KG of that bike ;)@@thompsy2k6 (Bike is 26kg..me 105kg..so total of 131kg is way under.)

[@ceriway380]

This would be perfect for my son's girlfriend, good price and no unnecessary parts ,just gets her riding.

[@germurphy4986]

I have a e stance, few years old now, in 27.5+ mode. Yes, one of the equipment was basic, and I had to retro fit a dropped, but apart from that it's been great. 2.6" tyres make a huge difference. Zero point paying silly money for a lighter ebike, when in fact it will still be a very heavy bike!. So no money has been spent on carbon upgrades for the first time. I use it on enduro bike park trails, red and black, although I don't get it into the air, as I'm not into that stuff.

[@davidjaniec3838]

I had the 2020 Stance E (new in Aug 2019 - 130/120mm travel) and was absolutely impressed with its versatility and overall excellence. I live in the California high desert with very hilly and rocky technical trails, sandy fire roads and jeep track. I went on ALL of it with relative ease with competitive handling and motor. I enjoyed it so much I upgraded to a 2022 Trance + E. Both great bikes, but the Stance E can do over 95% of what the Trance + E can do - at half the price. If you are looking for a great bike at the affordable price point, you won't be disappointed!

[@tegzzzy]

Superb, very capable Bike, I'd been off mountain bikes for 17 years, rode mountain bikes for 20 years before that, and races downhill for some 5 years. Now ages 60, I purchased a Stance E+2 last October, after re-Searching my options on E-Bikes, with the Stance, I've no regrets, it deals with everything I throw at it, I'm loving the single tracks again, and Benifiting massively with my health. More than happy to recommend it.

[@mrlemonadesandwich]

This is exactly what the emtb market needs. Affordable but full performance bikes. Ebike prices are heading upwards every year, and i dont know how people can justify or afford an emtb today. I have a 2019 Merida eone sixty 900e which cost me $7000 Australian in 2019, but has absolute top of the line components everywhere. To buy a bike with this spec today would cost $15000 or more. That is motorbike pricing. We need more bikes like this Giant that people can afford

[@robvanduren761]

I have the same thought process as you. In January 2019 me and my wife brought a new Giant Trance E+1 each. They still go awesome and have been trouble free (Yamaha PWX2). $5500 NZD each. I will not replace my ebike if it dies because they are taking the piss $. I actually brought a new motorcycle instead because I COULD SEE VALUE IN THAT.

[@bikeninja956]

For the price, the package can't be beat. I love mine. I got the E+ EX version which comes with a light, metal fenders and a rack. I use mine exclusively for road/gravel and light smooth XC trails. It's cool to see it used for harder riding also. So versatile.

[@edgarygleung]

I'm looking to get one to serve as a commuter. Can you tell me how it rides on pavement, please? Did you swap the tires for something more road-friendly?

[@bikeninja956]

@@edgarygleung Rides on pavement just fine with stock 2.4 tires, the rekon's have small knobs so they do great on road and gravel, especially if you pump them up hard. Given my use case, my next set will about the same diam, but probably semi-slick.

[@AN4MER]

im looking at the 2023 giant stance e+1 but its different colour, this that bike or similar? cheers

[@bikeninja956]

@@AN4MER I got the E+ EX, it's a matte plum color.

[@craigtayntor489]

Congratulations, I'm going to look at it now. If you have any other suggestions that are not Giant which I really like. My budget is 6k tops. Tia too all, great video......

[@drevo50]

I'll consider it. I'm a road cyclist with occasional excursions on my MTB; living in the flatlands of Eastern England somewhat limits what I can do. But a recent holiday in the Lakes convinced me that an e-mtb is what I need. Thanks for the video!

[@germurphy4986]

I always let people try out my bike when on trails,.and it changes their minds immediately about them

[@Magoo71]

Sounds and looks like a great option with this Alloy Bike.....Good looking too! Thanks for a great ride review! Cheers Stevie!

[@challengeaging]

Love this bike, From the baby heads, fast berms and technical descents in Tahoe, to the fire roads and steep climbs of the Bay Area, this bike rocks. I’ve been Mtn biking for over 50+ years mostly in Vermont and now California and am now 76, as a former Pro ski racer/ coach, I really appreciate the way the bike handles and puts the power down. I researched Emtbs for about a year before purchasing this bike based on the specs and price below 4k. Thanks for shining a light on this bike with your excellent comparison video.

[@brendonsweeney4162]

Great content, I think eMBN need to do a trail 'shootout' with a bunch of other trail-focused sub 4K bikes? I'd love to see a comparison with the Canyon Neuron ON (in a comparable spec) and a a few others.....this would help me greatly in choosing the right bike. Cheers

[@craigtayntor489]

Any suggestions to on trail / hybrid sites that do. All thoughts greatly welcomed to all. Great video and Eman is wonderful. Luv that man, he is very informative.

[@mromzie]

I bought the Giant Stance E+1 Pro version and I love it.

[@tico78742]

What kind of range do you get?

[@PeteSobolev]

I just picked up a Stance E+ 1 and am finding it to be an amazing bike! I'm fortunate to live in a community that has over 17 miles of trails ranging from paved paths to jeep/fire trails to some somewhat technical single-track, and am able to tackle all of it with ease. The 75NM motor gives me (at 150 lbs) plenty of power everywhere.

[@jarenci1]

I think all the Giant lineup of E- mountain bikes are good values. Bought my Trace E+ last year and it's a blast to ride, I always want to ride more.

[@barrygordon4737]

Picked up my stance e in June and absolutely love it

[@plokmko0]

Huzzah !!! A nice price E-Bike. The big battery is the real deal for me, down the line get a 160mm big tube fork and I'd be a totally happy camper.

[@Bitplanebrother]

question..i got the stance E+2 from 2022..where the rear frame has Adropout axeles (oldschool quick disconect).....would it be possible to change the rear Triangle(chainstay) to the newer one? (incl a new Rear wheel of couse) Greetings froom germany

[@webster169]

Love my giant emtb, the syncdrive sport motor really holds its own against the other brands, very reliable, may not be as fancy as other bikes but it does the job well and that’s all you need. Keep making great bikes giant.

[@nomad-pq4yw8iy7v]

If this bike is like the previous model with the new slimmer motor and puts out power like the older one it's a gem of a ride! It's worth checking out you don't have to take Steve word for it. It will speak for it's self

[@paulturner7829]

Excellent value bike. As for commuting ,i can do my Trip to work through a woodland route ,so yes i use off road trails 😊.

[@herbertmichaels2841]

I have a 23 stance E+2. Ilove it. You said it beat a pro motor in climb? Is the 75 n.m. about as strong as 85?

[@photobooksandrecords]

Giant are so underrated. Im on a Trance TRANCE X E+ 1 and it is great. Very capable. Maybe a bit low though ;)

[@jimbo4203]

I really liked my Stance and I would love that e version too

[@DW-10]

The 447mm chainstay is on the Trance E Elite which is mid weight mullet. The Trance X is a full 29er and a more likely comparison (battery size, 29/29). In comparison to the alloy XL Trance X in the low setting the XL Stance has: 10mm more BB Drop Same STA Similar HTA 5mm shorter chainstays 16mm more stack Same reach 81mm higher standover I'd much rather Giant NZ made this available in the Pro model in NZ, even if they dropped the Trance 3 in the lineup to avoid pricing conflict.

[@JasonHensley-x7b]

Is the geometry of the stance more mellow than the trance? Thinking of getting my girlfriend one and she sits down most of the time.... the trance looks like it might be more aggressive geometry and less comfortable seated

[@zipno6784]

Hi embn. Great video thanks. I currently own a Giant Fathom e+Pro new from 2019. Covered over 7600 miles in all weathers. Its time to upgrade and looking at the Stance that you have reviewed. My old Fathom has the Pro motor with 80nm of torque. This new Stance has Sport motor with 75nm. Am I likely to notice any difference in power? I nearly never go above the 3rd level of assistance on my Fathom. And thanks…in the video you answered my question as will 2.6 tyres fit and clear the frame and Forks! Sadly there is a Stance Pro but Giant UK do not sell it in UK although there is a Live embolden Pro…… What’s your thoughts on men riding Liv bikes?

[@j.peterson210]

Happy with my 2022 version so far…the sale price also helped in my decision.

[@scottcameron9421]

Looking at going for an emtb for short road commute and entry trails. Looking at Marlin 8 + 2024 vs Stance E+ 2 2023 - can have both at same price. Any opinions on full suspension vs hardtail for non aggressive riding and 500w (marlin) vs 625 (giant) around 25nm torque difference. Great review. Cheers.

[@rickywoods3101]

Ya, it cant keep up and it's really harsh on crazy rock gardens, drops and so on but it is pretty capable and a really good value.

[@zarleymcalpine3131]

Is this the 2022 2023?is there much difference?

[@electrodave9663]

I have owned this bike for a year and im very happy with it, after this one year I installed a better shock absorber at the rear and a Domain 38 fork with 160mm travel at the front and it works great and changes the geometry of the bike almost nothing.😊

[@mradam4430]

Looks good, but when is it available because I can’t find it on the uk website? I need to replace my gen 2 Levo this year 😃

[@Mahon633.]

Great video! I am looking at purchasing soon. I am between this bike vs the Vitus E Sommet VR vs the Cannondale Moterra Neo 4. All bikes are on sale right now in the US which makes them really close in price between 3.5k and 4k USD. The only big difference in these I am seeing is the giant falls short on the suspension travel compared to the other 2. since I will be spending the same money no matter what I go with what is your take on these? what direction would you lean and is the travel that big of a difference? Thank you!

[@alex1_matthews]

What model year bike is this? I can’t find it for sale on any site including giant in that colour. What weight is it, and what sort of range could you get from the medium battery size on an average ride of road, off road, up and down. Thanks

[@alaric1170]

Can you mount a rack on the back?? I'm keen to use this both as a work commuter and an adventure bike.

[@did4h2k]

i just keep on clicking on a stance e+1 2022 for 2700€ - should i click on the buy now button aswell? is the geo to the 2023 the same?

[@davidgeorge7443]

I just got a Specialized Turbo Tero x 5.0 - looks very similar to this Giant. It likes being ridden on pavement and light mountain trails.

[@MartinEdgell]

Our e-bikes so far have been Focus equipped models so lights, mudguards and racks. If I can sell a few more from our collection of road bikes maybe I can get one of these to ride with mates through the forest and on the moor!! Like it sensible money, looks nice.

[@petergeorge8557]

Hi, I'm enjoying your channel very much. Very informative particularly as I'm now considering one. I also ride motorbikes. One is at Ktm. My local dealer now stocks the GasGas range of EMTBs. The specs look very good for the money. I would be interested in your opinions on the G trail 3 carbon. It looks one hell of a bike for the money. Keep up the good work 👍

[@BrandonTaylor-bg1xv]

Looks nice. new to emountain bikes just bought a lapierre TR 4.6 after researching for around 6 months had 3000 budget this was 3100 from electric bike shop. So bought it really love it... puncture after 2 weeks so trying to sort this 😢

[@patrick.771]

I really wanted this bike with the SyncDrive motor but I couldn't get used to the geometry. It just wasn't built for me. So I went for a Focus Thron² 6.8 instead.

[@xfrolx5289]

Stance e pro 0 2021 L . Очень доволен, надежная штуковина , спасибо за обзор

[@hicksvillebomber]

I was ready to buy the 2022 trance x E+ 3 29, but now I’ve seen this I’m not sure now, is the Stance a better buy? I’m 5ft 6 so not sure whether to get a small or medium, What is the actual model you are reviewing?

[@jvanderwalt]

Looking at buying the Stance E+Pro (South Africa). In eco mode, with the 800w battery, what type of range in distance could be achieved?

[@joshcardenas8875]

Medium for sure! Similar in size and that's what I ride.

[@KosmicHRTRacingTeam]

Doesnt seem bad for The full retail price, but with the latest Specialized bike sale prices, it’s hard to beat those prices. Of course it’s hard to compare retail pricing to sale pricing.

[@didgineil]

What's the minimum rider height. I find it so difficult to find an ebike for a 5ft4" rider, would you think this trance with it's range of sizes actually fit. Would you also think it's a good bike for your first e-bike

[@cupra2Jock.]

Get a liv theyre for women and very small frames.

[@paulbrook2459]

Great video , E bikes do need sub 4k or they just won’t sell the volumes ! There’s also some heavily discounted bike online right now ! I’m looking at buying a treat rail 7 for £4350, do you think this is a good deal ! Keep up the good work 👍👍

[@testdirver]

so wich model its newest the one with ANT+ Wireless display compatible or RideControl Dash, full color LCD screen?

[@vashon100]

which vs wich

[@ms-bl7vi]

Why is it I can only find this bike with suntour shocks?, even giant only advertise the e+2 as the only model available.

[@UNAGGAN]

This bike is more than enough for 90% of mountain bikers

[@RolyTravelwell]

How does it compare to the Merida e 160 or e 140?

[@paulliddell2517]

hi guys, i’m a newbie just getting into mtb i have a budget of 3/3,5k to purchase my first e bike, what bikes should i be looking at thanks paul

[@pierluigiserventi6214]

sono alto 172 cm che taglia mi consigliate? grazie

[@prodeo2167]

I have one of those. Excellent bike.

[@mickfromrocky]

How do you find the motor size compared to a 85nm ? Only one model available in Aus but think it might be just about perfect

[@Sir-Kay]

I've heard you guys once mention the Decathlon's Thillus Ebike 29'er but, hasn't it cross your minds to actually get a hold of it & do some comparison to this or other e-bikes in its price range? Plus, the Thillus has 70.4 seat & 66 head angles respectively, how do you think such a steep head angle and a bike with such weird geometry will perform in an all mountain terrain?

[@The_Privateer]

This guy is the David Attenborough of narrating eMTB content.

[@jott8]

Is this bike out yet? can´t find it in Sweden at least.

[@leeteemtb9587]

Where do get those Giant ebike tyre stick beaters 😂 ?

[@tomquimby8669]

Giant clearly have some great hypnotists. The bike is great, the bike is great, keep looking at the swinging clock. the bike is great.

[@bradsanders6954]

Skinny cheap forks, cheap shock, cheap drivetrain, its cheap because its built cheap. But it works also. Ive done expensive upgrades on motorcycles and bicycles, and for me its way better and cheaper in the long run to buy a better bike from the get go.

[@tomquimby8669]

@@bradsanders6954 I see that point of view has merit, The trance has maestro sus so better in my riding experience. All new bikes have rubbish saddles/pedals, and ish tyres and grips. My trial bike has evolved with groupsets that did not exist at purchase, but yes the brakes needed upgrading. The real problem now is finding a new bike upgrade to what I have created.

[@droning4u787]

Hi! What size tyres was you running on that?

[@bradsanders6954]

He said 2.6 3 or 4 times.

[@zuhayrmohamood1950]

Live in Cape Town South Africa and lucky enough to do a 30Km 800m elevation commute over Table Mountain national Park i to the City CBD

[@zuhayrmohamood1950]

Yeah will look at it for sure

[@jakeyvass9410]

Can you make trotil on this model pl ??

[@jokermtb]

Orbea Rise, or this bike….if you still like to get a bit rowdy?

[@antoniocecilio8309]

I bought one because of this :)

[@embn]

Enjoy the bike!

[@rickywoods3101]

The highest spec stance has different geometry by the way .

[@psngaming3796]

e+ and E+2; what is the difference. been offered a brand new one for 2,100... might have to...

[@markdabek2765]

Yes but where do you get the brushed aluminium bike 😂

[@harryfettes393]

Did Giant or anybody else pay EMTB for this video?

[@Ndc710]

What does it matter, we all need to earn a living somehow😂

[@asifitmatters1]

@@Ndc710of course it matters.

[@Ndc710]

@@asifitmatters1 who to…..not me….I decide what I buy and how much I pay….to doesn’t matter who pays who for what….I decide what to buy.

[@johnwarner291]

They were up front and told us it contained a paid promotion. Nothing wrong with that.

[@mtsecological3796]

Couple Q's: 1) would it void warranty or damage the headtube / bearings by going to 150 or 160 fork on this or similar comparative ebikes? 2) Any banging / clacking / knocking sounds on this one? and, 3) how would you compare to motors of similar Vitus Myth/Somm and Marin Alpine ebikes - Befang, e7000, and EP6? That's a broad question but - any quick takes on it?

[@andrewowens5653]

@EMBN Why don't they sell it in Japan? Looks like we're stuck with the older models. And when I say models, I mean exactly "2" electric mountain bikes that Giant sells in Japan. Perhaps you can ask your Rep if customers in Japan have any other options to select their bikes?

[@Birdpoo777]

Who commutes on dirt tracks? That would be my ideal if the infrastructure were in place; I’ve always Thought of this, while looking at certain pieces of land, by the road, as I miss commuting via single track as I was able to in Arizona. Wouldn’t it be nice as more people ride mountain and e-bikes to develop commuting single track trail systems.

[@armannvanhelden4884]

I commute on dirt tracks.

[@kenwong7404]

Can you guys test the new Polygon Siskui T7E?

[@mtsecological3796]

Check out the recent Flow Mountain Bike channel - review there.

[@svenball5384]

Or going for the Vitus

[@davedenby4346]

I managed to grab a orbea rise for 3500 , absalout steel ,

[@abovemsa4123]

Is this the Giant Stance E +1 or E +2? Two different price ranges!

Giant's drive-train is really INEFFICIENT. They advertise that you can get 190kms with a full battery - but you're hard pressed to get even 50kms

[@bradsanders6954]

The drivetrain, is most likely Shimano with a Yamaha motor. Giant doesnt build drivetrains. Shimano, is Shimano.

[@Madmaverick101]

If this bike were offered on sale for circa US$3k, would it still be a no-brainer to get one, or is there now something that offers better value at this price point?

[@embn]

Its worth shopping around, there's some insane offers going on at the moment!

[@The_Privateer]

Ahhh.... so it's made for how normal (but enthusiast) people ride in the most common environments and circumstances. Rather than for racers, or people that want to fantasize themselves as a 'racer'. Seems like a solid offering - except it's not powerful enough and doesn't have enough battery. But it looks like you could fill up the front triangle with an 'accessory' battery.

[@MrFlapstick]

Increased density and lower weight aint better for battery safety and impact resistance! Better for riding but more energy in a smaller frame is not a safety feature

[@bastogne315]

dirty, bonking, back road, bike adventures...with a bit of dogging thrown in..

[@MadLFC]

The only people who would consider a bike of this calibre as second rate are MTB brand snobs with money to burn.

[@psngaming3796]

is there any difference between this and the female counterpart in purple or is it literally just the paintjob and the name??.. tia

[@pippinrush1520]

This bike would be SO much radder without all the curvey bits..What is it, 2015? With that said, it looks better than the YT imho..

[@bastogne315]

A remote part of the UK...!!! HUH?

[@patrick.771]

You said it's the 75Nm SyncDrive Sport motor but your silver (top) model has the Pro motor with 85Nm. So it's no wonder that it was faster than the other motor ;-)

[@bastogne315]

Love the Scottish accent ❤❤

[@quitemountainous2528]

You kidding, right? Steve is Welsh 🤣

[@daveseemerollin6357]

It's welsh 😂

[@dangerfulmind]

What is it with the presenters on the global (more so on EMBN) continually referring to carbon as "PLASTIC", something that's only started happening in the last month or so when the bike industry seems hellbent on pushing aluminium framed bikes as the next best new thing and the global network seems intent on playing along and slagging off carbon as "PLASTIC".

[@robbief1]

Fact - Giant don’t make it easy to buy one of their bikes. They need to learn something from Trek when it comes to test rides……. My experience was abysmal customer experience

[@dougrodriguez4977]

Ride it, don’t slide it.

[@Rosco-P.Coldchain]

I don’t mean to be negative but you must be nuts paying £4 grand for a bike when you can buy a plush BMW for the same amount..I just wish they would make electric bikes more affordable for the masses..Especially when we are constantly told about emissions and living green..!!

[@islandaerial3414]

Can you put at least 5000km on it and then get back to us. Thanks!

[@joshcardenas8875]

I have over 3000 miles. Same drive train minus the chain and still rides like new. Ride single track literally every day.

[@bastogne315]

Its a nugget in a turds clothing😂

[@deepdiver49]

One day Steve will pick up a Ugly Stick. He will hit the bike with the stick and it will turn ugly.

[@tomcollins6989]

Just not impressed by giant bikes. The once “giant” brand has slept I feel. With so many brands on the market with such amazing bikes I find it hard to be impressed by their bikes. It seems their playing catch up now.

[@AN4MER]

watched these videos for help to find my first ebike.. they were paid to say these things about this bike because its not half as good so ended up with a trek 😂

[@guyd4067]

FFS

[@2wheelsonline]

Sorry but I unsubscribed over 3 years ago and I remember why now. This is the like dummies guide to emtb. We all know the differences that make us choose one bike over another.

[@jlw2812]

This is the e+ pro 0 which isn’t available in the UK. Also has the sync drive pro motor (85nm not 75nm) and the battery pack comes standard at 800wh in this model so wasn’t swapped out. Look at the motor close-up right at the end of the video which clearly shows “Syncdrive Pro” written on the side. Pointless review and a few lies thrown in. Giant clearly influencing the script here

[@aliasrandom9241]

And yet again, gushing about a mediocre product. Come on guys, you’re devaluing your brand and quality of your opinions.

[@bradsanders6954]

Hey its cheap as chips! Once you buy it, if you ride hard, you will know you made a mistake in no time.

[@camperp195]

A good starter e bike,like the vitus mythique,but both bikes have rubbish wheels,as the saying goes,buy cheap,buy twice,if you bought one,youd be upgrading parts rather quickly

[@joshuaallswang8016]

That’s not a TRAIL BIKE!! That’s a motorcycle!!!😤

[@mickyg7237]

😭