When did the middle ages in England end?

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@Embracehistoria 10 ай бұрын

Further reading. acraew.org.uk/history-common-land-and-village-greens www.parliament.uk/about/living-heritage/evolutionofparliament/legislativescrutiny/act-of-union-1707/ archive.org/details/englishwooltrade0000lloy/mode/2up

@youngimperialistmkii 10 ай бұрын

I also learned that the middle ages ended in England with the end of the Wars of the Roses. Your theory is an interesting and thought provoking one.

@Embracehistoria 10 ай бұрын

I think it's the standard taught in UK schools, I'd have to ask a history teacher lol

@willrock8194 6 ай бұрын

I wish this stuff got more views, this is some of the highest quality history I have seen on youtube.

@kilr0y_was_here 5 ай бұрын

Great video! I agree. Sad about the monasteries and the history lost

@yes_head 10 ай бұрын

I'd probably go with the idea that it was the coming of the Tudors that marked the transition from Middle Ages to "Renaissance-era" English history (even though that's not accurate either.) I also wouldn't trace the "Middle Ages" as far back, but usually think about it starting with the Plantagenets. Just my two farthings. Anyways, nice to see another video from you.

@Embracehistoria 10 ай бұрын

Wow, that is bold to leave out Anglo-Saxon England, but yeah the Renaissance is an annoying left over term.

@yes_head 10 ай бұрын

@@EmbracehistoriaYeah, the Anglo-Saxon period is tricky, but I tend to lump it in with the "dark ages" -- the post-Roman period before the Norman Conquest. I know it's not really fair, and perhaps the "Anglo-Saxon Age" should be a thing unto itself, which is fine with me. It's just that no other European nation shares it.

@MixerRenegade95 8 ай бұрын

@@yes_headDark Ages? That is as archaic as it is outdated for the most part nowadays.

@Monica_Baja 7 ай бұрын

Dark ages were so dubbed because there is not, or was not at the time, a lot of documents left to shed light on the times.

@sergeanthowiefromthemainland 10 ай бұрын

I cant believe you went to school in the 2010s, your voice has a much more mature quality.

@Embracehistoria 10 ай бұрын

Haha, really? I finished school in 2011.

@sergeanthowiefromthemainland 10 ай бұрын

@@Embracehistoria Yeah I thought you might be over 40. I left school in 2009, so only a couple of years between us. You have an excellent channel, keep up the good work mate.

@williamjohnson3093 2 ай бұрын

While typically I would agree with the Middle Ages on its deathbed in Edward VI’s reign and its final death during the early parts of Elizabeth’s reign, I think this issue shows the arbitrariness of defining eras. For instance we will say the end of widespread Catholicism in England was the end of the Middle Ages. However, what about France or other kingdoms in Europe? For example France, the Iberian Kingdoms, Germany and Scandinavia? Does the definition for what the Middle Ages constitutes change depending on the locale?

@alexandrub8786 10 ай бұрын

13:25 Chalcedonian Chrisianity would be a better descriptor of the faith at the time.

@Embracehistoria 10 ай бұрын

Eh, for a simple explanation it works.

@alexandrub8786 10 ай бұрын

@@Embracehistoria fair enough. I just don't like the theological and historical implications,mostly because of how they were used to discriminate the orthodox as barbarian and unworthy of rights and used for maltreatment as bad that the saying "better the turkisk turban than the papal tiara" from the byzantines (the devshirme system/blood tax being already in place)

@alexandrub8786 10 ай бұрын

@@Embracehistoria i guess the reasoning for the byzantine quote is "better the blow from my enemy than the backstabbing from my brother", the treatment of the french crusaders in the previous "help" from the catholics sure did not help make the attempts of mending the schism believable

@brianthesage5119 5 ай бұрын

I think Middle Ages in British History ended in 1649, when the Parliamentarians beheaded King Charles I and the Monarchy was abolished. Executed an anointed King is also a sign of challenging a Medieval Dogma. Due to the puritanical rule of the Oliver Cromwell the last traces of feudalism and Medieval Traditions was destroyed . Though King Charles II ruled with a sort of power of an absolute monarchy, he is the first king to practice ruling equally with parliament thus making him the first king of a constitutional monarchy. That is my reason for me to considered 1649 as the End of the English Middle Ages.

@Cadence733 10 ай бұрын

Fall of Constantinople. Greek speakers then come to western Europe with their Greek texts influenced the Renaissance, The Reformation and beginnings of humanism. Also broke down the 'silk road' to China and India creating the idea of travelling west to find it ie discovery of the new world. Coincidentally with the completion of the Reconquesta in Portugal and Spain too.

@Embracehistoria 10 ай бұрын

For England it's quite interesting that the "Renaissance" comes much later and is more towards literature, for example Shakespeare.

@renaissanceweeb 10 ай бұрын

I absolutely love your theory. Defining the medieval period as essentially a period of conflict between Church and State, with the collapse of Western Rome greatly weakening the relative power of Western states relative to the Pope, culminating in the rise of modern states in the early modern period reasserting their he supremacy of the state over the church, reaches broadly across Europe. Many European states were greatly transformed as a result of the weakening if the Papacy relative to the State.

@Embracehistoria 10 ай бұрын

I'm glad you enjoyed my theory. It's one I've thought of and researched for a few years now.

@poto33 9 ай бұрын

As a CK3 player, 1453. As a normal person i have no idea because everytime a new theory came up immediately assumed that was the one. I'm leaning towards Henry the Eighth's death

@Embracehistoria 9 ай бұрын

CK2 back in the day.

@Sz27372 10 ай бұрын

I think the Middle Ages in England end with accession of Edward IV of England either during his first or second reign since he did stabilize the economy and restore the crown power. Edward pretty much a new monarch and a renaissance king.

@justthecoolestdudeyo9446 10 ай бұрын

I mean, even declaring a distinct "Ancient", "Middle", and "Modern" age is just as arbitrary as the dates chosen. The year 600 and the year 1300 in what is now the UK are arguably more different than pre- and post- transition between the ages, even though it's all "Middle Ages". Just my thoughts on the matter anyway

@justthecoolestdudeyo9446 10 ай бұрын

Although I do think that thinking about how we define these things can be valuable if it challenges us to develop a more complex and comprehensive understanding of history. For example, discussing the wool trade as you do here is not something I would inherently think of even though it clearly had a period of time where it was a dominant economic factor. But because that was a change around the "Middle-Modern" transition, it's now a role that we have to reason to (re)examine. I'm not sure if that made sense but anyway...

@Embracehistoria 10 ай бұрын

For sure, we humans like to put things into a box haha.

@Embracehistoria 10 ай бұрын

I think the hard thing is on the one hand trying to make it easy and simple to explain, but then knowing it's always more complex.