The NFL's BIGGEST FINANCIAL FAILURE EVER... (The Fall of NFL Europe)

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Embrace the Grind

Embrace the Grind

2 ай бұрын

With Spring League football back and up and running relatively successfully with the UFL, I have had fun looking back at old spring leagues or start-up leagues that tried to compete with the NFL. NFL Europe was such an interesting experiment that I feel had it been done right or done today with streaming, it could have been way more successful than it really was back in the 90s and 2000s. A once-promising league in Europe that looked like it could turn into world domination by the NFL instead turned into a money pit. This is the story of NFL Europe. This is the Story of the NFL’s biggest financial misstep of all time.
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@EmbracetheGrind
@EmbracetheGrind 2 ай бұрын
Could NFL Europe surive today with streaming? Why or why not?
@DioChicken
@DioChicken 2 ай бұрын
It probably could but with the ELF in place there’s absolutely no way it comes back. The hope is the ELF gets a strong partnership with the NFL to help with the growing pains
@XDrang93
@XDrang93 2 ай бұрын
Rhein is pronounced "Rhine", not "Rain".
@bugleboy624
@bugleboy624 2 ай бұрын
​@DioChicken I'm actually kinda hoping the ELF does well enough to be able to tell the NFL to fuck off. Tall order, I know. Still...
@gs4395
@gs4395 2 ай бұрын
The old league would never survive. I mean, the realistic possibility of the ELF is to expand across Europe, into cities like Dublin, Stockholm, or cities in the SE of Europe itself.
@user-ef8ed8ez4o
@user-ef8ed8ez4o 2 ай бұрын
I think time constraints would be tough... Games wouldn't be at the times that are reasonable for us to watch...
@atw-me1xy
@atw-me1xy 2 ай бұрын
I used to love watching NFLE when I was an insatiably football hungry middle schooler, especially the Galaxy. Was so sad when it shut down.
@Blackhawk5656
@Blackhawk5656 2 ай бұрын
I used to pull for all the teams that had packers players, I remember there was a wide out who played for Amsterdam, Chad Lucas. That dude probably should've made a roster in the NFL. And also, Atari Bigby ended up becoming a starting safety for Green Bay
@XDrang93
@XDrang93 2 ай бұрын
The closest we have to NFL Europe nowadays is the European League of Football. Some of the ELF teams use the same names and colors as their NFL Europe counterparts.
@DioChicken
@DioChicken 2 ай бұрын
NFL Europe helped plant the seeds for the ELF but the NFL will probably need to be active in Europe again to help grow the game even more
@jayssonjefferson4389
@jayssonjefferson4389 2 ай бұрын
And was good for played development
@42calking53
@42calking53 2 ай бұрын
I really wish we could get this to come back and be a part of NFL
@Taj-ex2oo
@Taj-ex2oo 2 ай бұрын
I only remember these teams from “madden 2003” 😂😂😂
@nickmeara5323
@nickmeara5323 2 ай бұрын
1998 Kurt Warner played for the Amsterdam Admirals. The St. Louis Rams were big on sending QB to NFL-Europe. Jamie Martin also would play there. I remember watching the last regular season game, The Rhein Fire loose to Frankfurt in order for the three teams to end with a 7-3 tie. With that win Frankfurt had the tie breakers over Amsterdam and the Fire won the World Bowl '98 34-10. The 1998 NFL season Warner was behind Tony Banks & Steve Bono. Warner was an exposed Ram for the Browns expansion Draft in '99.
@Blizzysnaps
@Blizzysnaps 2 ай бұрын
They should bring it back. Creates more opportunities, and make American football globally popular
@officialfumofeltingchannel1490
@officialfumofeltingchannel1490 2 ай бұрын
Ehhh idk I kind of like this being our own American thing, I don’t mind gatekeeping 😂
@ease-l5330
@ease-l5330 2 ай бұрын
The ELF is active and has most teams from NFL Europe! And it’s hype!
@LarsLoveToMosh
@LarsLoveToMosh 2 ай бұрын
We have the EFL since 3 Years that try to fill this Gap
@duewhit310
@duewhit310 2 ай бұрын
People come from all over the world to play USA sports for USA MONEY........... But they dont come here to play football. Let that sink in.......... No 6'5 300+ guys coming here to be linemen No rugby players coming over to be RB, FB, LB, WR, SS, ST. No track stars coming here to return kickoffs or catch passes or be a DB. No world class throwing arms coming here to be QBs. The whole rest of the world cringes at our american football. They knew at some point some damning medical research would state the obvious......... that the human brain cannot withstand these repeated violent collisions. Its too much. Theyre comin here to play baseball, basketball, hockey, YOU NAME IT, but nobody wants the American football LIFE. PERIODPOINTBLANK
@ease-l5330
@ease-l5330 2 ай бұрын
@@duewhit310 One, that’s blatantly not true, and two, what’s your beef 🤣
@benellison6232
@benellison6232 2 ай бұрын
There is a European football league. Some of the teams fron NFL Europe are in it! They are the European League of Football (ELF)
@RedneckOgre9000
@RedneckOgre9000 2 ай бұрын
Here in Alabama I was a fan of the Birmingham Fire. Birmingham has been a part of so many of these secondary football leagues.
@grahamgunn1309
@grahamgunn1309 2 ай бұрын
My uncle played for the Barcelona Dragons just before he signed with the patriots in 2000. He said he loved playing in Europe but he also said the league collapsing wasn’t much of a surprise.
@cherrycolareal
@cherrycolareal Ай бұрын
Who was he?
@grahamgunn1309
@grahamgunn1309 Ай бұрын
@@cherrycolareal his name is Garrett Johnson, he played a decent amount in 2000/2001 but was mainly a practice squad guy after about week 8 in 2001
@rngfootball759
@rngfootball759 2 ай бұрын
The great Adam Vinatieri played in what was then the World League of American Football. Scottish Claymores, Amsterdam Admirals, London Monarchs for example. Eventually that became mostly German cities during the final days.
@228allday
@228allday 2 ай бұрын
I remember i meet an offensive lineman that played in Germay in the Europe league. This had to be 2006 or 2007 right whenever it was coming to an end he told me that he was working out and trying to make an NFL roster he got married to a captain in the Air Force while he was overseas That's how he was able to get on base and work out
@lxfenix
@lxfenix 2 ай бұрын
The mid-2000's era Arena Football League was awesome. They had a good tv deal, lots of teams and tons of talent. It's a shame how quickly it fell apart.
@justinress2782
@justinress2782 2 ай бұрын
I think it’s time for the NFL to invest in the ELF. The league has shown that it has potential, but without massive external funding it will go the same way as the NFL Europe. This would be a win win situation.
@MikeJr9284
@MikeJr9284 2 ай бұрын
Growing up, I used to play as the NFL Europe teams in Madden.
@nickmeara5323
@nickmeara5323 2 ай бұрын
Stan Gelbaugh (Maryland) was the MVP of the first Season. A 6th round draft pick in 1986 that was on the Buffalo Bills taxi squad for years. Was selling copiers by 1990, and after the WLAF season was able to make some starts for the Phoenix Cardinals due to injuries.
@OhJustImmo
@OhJustImmo 2 ай бұрын
take a look at the ELF (European League of Football)
@hutchphilpot6870
@hutchphilpot6870 2 ай бұрын
“HE HATE ME” IYKYK
@chasekozak7206
@chasekozak7206 Ай бұрын
That’s the original XFL, nothing to do with Europe
@StevenWatters
@StevenWatters 2 ай бұрын
NFL Europe (IFL) kinda all of a sudden reminds me of EuroNASCAR except EuroNASCAR didn't go out of business cause, of how big NASCAR is getting each day.
@Donathon-qx8kq
@Donathon-qx8kq Ай бұрын
I remember a WR who played for the Claymores named Cooper....guy could play....if I'm not wrong he was also a professor.... pretty cool
@edwardkelly3280
@edwardkelly3280 2 ай бұрын
I missed NFL Europe
@Bsnsobscuregames
@Bsnsobscuregames 2 ай бұрын
NFL Europe’s biggest problem was that it was obviously a “developmental” league. The games didn’t often feel competitive or close.
@tanhelmet
@tanhelmet 2 ай бұрын
It was a solid league. Great players and performance. I enjoyed it when it was on TV.
@doccholo905
@doccholo905 2 ай бұрын
I enjoyed watching NFL Europe as a kid. I liked the Berlin Thunder
@XDrang93
@XDrang93 2 ай бұрын
At least the ELF has their own Berlin Thunder.
@SonCarlosH
@SonCarlosH 2 ай бұрын
I was a Berlin Thunder fan, those uni's went hard!
@johnharris6655
@johnharris6655 2 ай бұрын
First you had the Sacramento Surge, winner of the 2nd and last World Bowl, that included David Archer as it's quarterback. Then that folded so Owner Fred Anderson move the franchise into the CFL when it expanded into the US briefly to become the Sacramento Gold Miners. Then they moved to San Antonio as the Riders but had to change their name to the Texans because the CFL had 2 teams named the Rough Riders. And it all fell apart after 3 years.
@michaeljohnson7493
@michaeljohnson7493 2 ай бұрын
We definitely need a video about the CFL’s American expansion. Knowing the good quality videos ETG puts out, I’m sure we’ll be seeing it soon.
@MrBlondespikes
@MrBlondespikes Ай бұрын
This endedup becoming the ELF in a round about way . There are 17 teams now there expanding to 24 eventually
@doingnthn
@doingnthn 2 ай бұрын
The NFL should embrace the ELF
@ZVWrestling445
@ZVWrestling445 2 ай бұрын
European League of Football is around and has taken the spot for the top league of American football in Europe. Some NFLE teams are in the ELF
@MasterOfViewership
@MasterOfViewership Ай бұрын
The NFL is doing games in London and rumors are they've been trying to set up a franchise from London. Hmm . . .🤔
@OCs_And_Stories
@OCs_And_Stories 2 ай бұрын
I’d love a video on the PSFL
@Loyard777
@Loyard777 2 ай бұрын
I remember nfl Europe being in one of the old maddens it was cool
@pattonmaynard7214
@pattonmaynard7214 2 ай бұрын
Babe wake up, new embrace the grind video dropped
@PTrep2727
@PTrep2727 2 ай бұрын
I went to the first game in Montréal in front of 55 000, we were clobbered and never got close to that. I also went to the final in Montréal again. I got free tickets, thats how bad it got. Sad because i loved it. 🤷🏈🏈🤷
@Jasontyo
@Jasontyo 2 ай бұрын
Battlehawks to the NFL. Relegate the bears.
@Laikyn123
@Laikyn123 2 ай бұрын
My favorite team is the San Antionio Brahmas
@chez0788
@chez0788 2 ай бұрын
Barthelona
@jamesbashaw5831
@jamesbashaw5831 2 ай бұрын
Man, I miss NFL Europe. Go Hamburg Sea Devils!
@gs4395
@gs4395 2 ай бұрын
Time to expand to Europe, NFL. Add those London teams.
@josmith213
@josmith213 2 ай бұрын
They folded cause Kurt Warner left
@javi__...
@javi__... 2 ай бұрын
I read that the nfl still loses money playing in europe but im guessing its nowhere near as much as nfl europe
@simsj2763
@simsj2763 2 ай бұрын
that league had the best uniforms ever.
@darknite9374
@darknite9374 2 ай бұрын
I only remember these teams cause I used to beat up on them in the golden days of Madden 😂
@kwamz28
@kwamz28 2 ай бұрын
To anyone saying "please bring this back" or anything along those lines... Please see European League of Football.
@Kingsized_Kevin
@Kingsized_Kevin 2 ай бұрын
The Sacramento Surge!! Chapms
@GeorgHaeder
@GeorgHaeder Ай бұрын
American Football? Nah! Baseball on the other hand...
@jeffpearljam1976
@jeffpearljam1976 2 ай бұрын
Barth-a-lona?
@itsmellslikeshitdontit3752
@itsmellslikeshitdontit3752 2 ай бұрын
This was truly a great video. Great narration.
@jackson711247
@jackson711247 2 ай бұрын
I use to like the galaxy because of they colors and helmet 😂
@andrewmcclellan8808
@andrewmcclellan8808 2 ай бұрын
Birmingham stallions back to back champs of the usfl working on being first ufl champs and go back to back to back bringing it home to bama
@travmakesbeats3372
@travmakesbeats3372 Ай бұрын
If they really eant some foreigners to play football, id start by getting some sumos to try offensive line. They are made for blocking
@jeffpearljam1976
@jeffpearljam1976 2 ай бұрын
WFLA?
@timwalkerfukyt
@timwalkerfukyt Ай бұрын
Galaxy!!!!!!!!!!!
@christopherrobinmarriott7218
@christopherrobinmarriott7218 2 ай бұрын
I don’t understand how people watch a football game and then go back And watch a soccer game, the MOST BORING Sport I’ve ever Seen. When a 90 minute 0-0 or 1-0 game is “thrilling“ it means ur sport is boring. When the best part of your game is guys flopping around, faking injuries to their shins your sport is boring.
@michaelk9284
@michaelk9284 2 ай бұрын
Unlike american throw ball which five minutes of play time takes thirty five minutes because there's a penalty every other fucking play and guys also roll around on the ground
@Kayden123-ci4tr
@Kayden123-ci4tr Ай бұрын
2 hours of adverts😂😂😂😂😂😂
@barackobama9343
@barackobama9343 2 ай бұрын
I REALLY thought the "BIGGEST FINANCIAL FAILURE" of the NFL was PAYING Lamar Jackson +50 MILLION PER YEAR on the back end of his career to NEVER win a meaningful playoff game...
@nathanembry9245
@nathanembry9245 2 ай бұрын
I love seeing the nfl fail!
@ogarchielee9880
@ogarchielee9880 2 ай бұрын
SOUNDS LIKE THE WNBA 🤷🏿‍♂️
@jasonfire3434
@jasonfire3434 2 ай бұрын
I miss the original XFL (the one that lasted only one season, go LA Xtreme) and the AAF (Arizona Hotshots), sadly both leagues were horribly managed
@FrakintheboX
@FrakintheboX 2 ай бұрын
Good content, but your vocal cadence is so freaking annoying.
@chatdaddychasechatdaddycha2271
@chatdaddychasechatdaddycha2271 2 ай бұрын
I went to a Frankfurt galaxy game in the early 2000s and it’s still one of my fondest memories
@itsmellslikeshitdontit3752
@itsmellslikeshitdontit3752 2 ай бұрын
It really wasn't a bust league. They did produce great players who flew under the radar. Kurt Warner and Jake Delhomme
@itsmellslikeshitdontit3752
@itsmellslikeshitdontit3752 2 ай бұрын
It was a great league for player growth.
@itsmellslikeshitdontit3752
@itsmellslikeshitdontit3752 2 ай бұрын
Football around the world is called the NFL not soccer haha
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