Embraer Releases Exciting Video Of New Turboprop In Development

Whether by design or desire, Brazilian aerospace company Embraer is slowly but surely building interest in its new generation turboprop passenger aircraft. The planemaker’s latest teaser takes the form of a video presentation, which has now be published on KZbin.
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[@BonanzaPilot]

Turboprops really under rated. Modern Turbo Props are quiet, fast, effiecient, and have great takeoff and landing performance.

[@brandons72vette]

Very cool and interesting. As someone who’s flown the EMBRAER 120,135/140/145, and training for the 170/175 fleet now; that design looks like the fuselage of a 170-195, with the wings of the 135-145, and with the props…reminiscences the 120. It would be really cool to see the airplane make production.

[@GoldendoodleBaxter]

The next generation of turboprop-powered aircraft is coming soon! Props, (no pun intended) for Embraer Way to go!

[@horiginsfs7561]

Haha.

[@tailsorange2872]

"The next generation of turboprop-powered aircraft is coming soon! Props, (no pun intended) for Embraer Way to go!" Well, those Props better be spinning for Embraer 😄

[@horiginsfs7561]

@@tailsorange2872 Ba-dum tsssss

[@slowery43]

wow you brought nothing new here AND your pun fell flat... nice

[@WonderfulAircraft]

I'm excited for this plane. Hope it comes to fruition. Seems like having the engines at the back like that could be a really big benefit for this aircraft over its competitors.

[@warmstrong5612]

Hope this is the start of a new wave of turboprop design and implementation. Possibly for larger (150-300 passenger) aircraft as well. I'd love to see prop driven aircraft making a major comeback at major airports. Would be like a second golden age of propliners.

[@jadsoncabral7021]

Hell yeah! I love turboprops and it would be great to see a comeback of the the great old days

[@patlevv7382]

Yer looking at FOUR ENGINE necessity AND plausibly TOO SLOW. ... STRADDLE .O.55mach practical speed

[@sergiobernardes3538]

Congratulations Embraer! wonderful aircraft

[@harpermonohan]

Embraer is making changes that Boeing and Airbus aren’t willing to roll out as quickly!

[@managed9348]

Have you heard of ATR??

[@chrisjob6040]

@Will Swift ATR is a turbo prop aircraft that Airbus has a 50% share in

[@managed9348]

@@chrisjob6040 thank you

[@harpermonohan]

@@managed9348 yes I have heard of ATR. However, I was unaware Airbus owns the majority of ATR. I must clarify: Boeing and Airbus are yet to show any prototypes including this advanced turboprop (which surpasses current propeller technology), under the official company name. Thanks!

[@smoketinytom]

@@harpermonohan They don’t have to do such a thing under their main company. Airbus can do the R&D and then pass their technology to ATR as a transaction and then ATR can enjoy the technology without the R&D staff on their budgets.

[@beechlad3541]

This is exciting, the prop market lacks competition in this field with ATR currently the major (& only I believe) manufacturer of aircraft in this bracket , good luck to Embraer with this project.

[@billalhossain3134]

I hope they make a good success at this. The market needs a major third competitor other then Airbus & Boeing. It would be nice if the aviation wealth is spread out in the Latin America countries where there is genuine need.

[@jonseilim4321]

That's what Comac is aiming for, though I really hope Embraer and Bombardier join in too

[@fredmdea785]

@@jonseilim4321 at this moment, Embraer and Bombardier have a higher market acceptance and market share than comac though. I dont believe this plane could make embraer compete with Boeing and Airbus, even if its extremelly succesfull. It could be like the e-jets and be succesfull, allowing Embraer to grow, but not enough to rival the current duopolly

[@chechnya]

The wealth is there, the corruption is stopping it from reaching the people.

[@billalhossain3134]

@@chechnya Noted, corruption can only be dealt with if a country is progressing & the people see that money is not following down to the people. Then there will be backlass by the massess. That is my theory anway.

[@grtorrest]

They are not so big and are not planning to go that big either. They even were very close to be bought by Boeing a couple of years ago. But ATR is in their sight,that's the target.

[@turbofanlover]

Not much of an Embraer fan, but I do like this new bird. Best of luck to them.

[@rafaelwilks]

Interesting! The 50-seat version of this would be the perfect replacement for the uncomfortable (and somewhat expensive to operate) CRJ-200, and the dodgy ATR42. As concerns the larger versions of this plane, if it has current-generation PW100 series turboprops, the fuel consumption will be the same as the E2 series; but if the turboprops on these concept aircraft are considerably more efficient than a PW100 series powerplant, these aircraft would make sense. It will be interesting to see what next-generation turboprops will be used here. And, it's definitely a good idea for the turboprops to be placed at the rear; it's the only way turboprops can survive.

[@msnpassjan2004]

I would love to see the cramped CRJ series go bye bye

[@RaulRodriguez-wr8lq]

Embraer will be a successful competitor, thumbs up.

[@waitotong9590]

Kind of reminds me of the GE36 propfan MD80 back in the day. On the other hand, i hope they will make an executive express of this TPNG, perhaps with the turboprop engines mounted in pusher configuration just like the Piaggio P.180 Avanti. Although that would be noisier, but it will be a one cool looking plane!

[@simonbaxter8001]

Remember seeing that on test in Yuma, AZ. Was noisy as hell!

[@winstonelston5743]

I haven't traveled by air since March of 1981, just haven't had the need and most of my travel has included things more easily transported by car. The proposed Embraer turboprop is certainly graceful and appears to include many innovative features that will provide improved performance and passenger comfort.

[@shabirhussain4719]

i think it will be a big success. cant wait to see this happened

[@caiquecarvalho1025]

Embraer is a amazing company and for sure it's new turboprop will be a hit

[@ronaldchappell5484]

Embraer is always successful

[@filledwithvariousknowledge2747]

This is what the world needs for really short routes freeing up the regional jets to be better used for longer routes that are still short of what the mainstream 6 abreast can do that aren’t efficient on those distance routes

[@pedrorodriguescoradini7946]

our embraer is advancing more than ever

[@williamtell5365]

I'm a big fan of turboprops, I believe they have a real future. So I'm cheering this on.

[@leezinke4351]

What a beautiful plane!

[@SimpleFlyingNews]

We agree! ✈️

[@rufuspipemos]

That jet looks rad!

[@lexanon5315]

Rooting for them! Let’s go

[@testepraverateondeeupossof9622]

BRAZIL!!!! PENTA CAMPEÃO DO MUNDO

[@nadahere]

💯Old tech. We are developing advanced aviation engines and propulsion that surpass anything in existence and on the drawing boards 💯

[@filledwithvariousknowledge2747]

So this is the new Q400 in terms of how fast it can go by turboprop standards but much more efficient. Hopefully it’ll sound just as great

[@turbin75]

It sure will be a success

[@SimpleFlyingNews]

Thank you for watching, be sure to tune in again! 😊✈️

[@stickynorth]

It's all about the $$ these days so whatever aircraft offers the lowest cost per passenger mile will win the day... So far it's the C Series/Airbus A220-100/300/500* but it's nice to see some friendly competition from Embraer here against what was Dash 8 territory... Anything with 2+2 seating is a winner to me!

[@focusaddiction3460]

Nice to have competition! ATRs are great, but the lack of competition usually brings some acomodation.

[@1fbarbosa]

The turboprop is sure in need for a refreshment. Either one of the commercial, business or defense verticals could use a redesigned platform with improved economics. As to the design itself many questions are still to be answered, specially the ones regarding safety - e.g. contingency in case of a broken blade. This and the other new gen props proposed by embraer have a rear mounted power plant because of future fuel sources. In one interview i saw (maybe even here on SF) the engineers said the best place for a hydrogen-filled spherical tank would be at the rear, thus making sense to place the engines close to it.

[@lucianocosta60]

Simplesmente Fantástica esse novo EMBRAER Turbocop

[@uncleenore]

I'm not sure how much aesthetics should enter into the discussion, but if looks count, this is gonna be a winner!

[@lindsaythomas2283]

If they can keep the comfort level up, sound inside cabin down and fuel burn down, they may have a winner. Good luck.

[@abrahamdecruz5128]

It will work as a competitor to the ATR and to be flown to airports with short runways. If it is greener than other options good. If there are 4000 possible orders I hope Embraer can get half.

[@guidoencalada3336]

I think if Embraer adapts an updated GE36 (UDF), an Ultra High Bypass Engine, it would be a great success

[@mujibulhasan6273]

It will be a fantastic aircraft. Best wishes

[@USNveteran]

I've always liked turbo prop aircraft they are some of the most fuel efficient aircraft in the skies. Now if only the airlines would pass that savings along to the passengers in the form of reduced ticket prices. FLY NAVY!!!

[@undertow2142]

Given state of technology and expected rate of progress. They would be wise to develop a hybrid turbo prop. Battery boosted for take off with ultra low cruising fuel burn rate. Even better if it’s hydrogen fuel capable. Such a system would be upgraded more easily as better and better batteries come along and hydrogen infrastructure comes along.

[@LWJCarroll]

Looks and sounds like an excellent new design…. Thanks Laurie NZ.

[@sboyd4723]

Counter rotating UDF would look cool on this platform

[@rais1953]

Looks like a good domestic short haul design.

[@jacksonsoto5308]

looks like a fever dream ATR/E145 kinda thing and i don't know how i feel about it

[@eamonahern7495]

It could be very useful for getting from an area where there's a local airport to a major airport in a hurry.

[@GoodStuffReview]

I already enjoy flying on turboprop aircraft. I hope I get to fly aboard one of these someday. Modernizing the aircraft to a "jet-like experience" is a brilliant idea increase acceptance.

[@ghostrider-be9ek]

Embraer moving ahead, Bombardier moving backwards (no Q400 garbage replacement)

[@kennethcohagen3539]

It’s about time!

[@auggith]

i like this… i like it a lot. excited to see where this project goes

[@wololo10]

This plane with the cfm rise would be so sick

[@ibxgameryt9449]

Probably a Success There are Two Popular Turboprop Option the ATR - 72 And the Bombardier Q400 NG So this will be a Game Changer.

[@schuttrostig5729]

I always thought there is a big market on the 50-100 seats with all the aging 30 year old planes holding that space. Good move of embraer to cover that. I always hoped airbus would be more agile and market orientatet, but recently it gets its butter taken by north and south american corporations.

[@mitchellmaerz8429]

I feel that 90 capacity is probably just about right.

[@romeudasilvapereira2476]

Essa mesma aeronave será movida a hidrogênio num futuro próximo....

[@vascoribeiro69]

Shorter landing gear, lower weight, thinner wing less drag, engines in the rear less noise in the cabin. Hope the fuselage is protected with Kevlar for the event of a runway propeller blade. Better handling on single engine?

[@charsbob]

If the chosen engine is compatible with sustainable aviation fuel and convertible to electric propulsion or hydrogen fuel, this could be a very effective offering.

[@thatguy7085]

Good for a lower level commuter between large airport hubs.

[@ltmltm1]

Yes Aer Lingus uses a old prop plane from Dublin to Edinburgh just one of many uses

[@alanevans4975]

Most definately an aircarft rather late in comi8ng.MD87.DC9 turbo prop ideal for short haul a coming necessity.

[@alien4006]

Turboprops are incredibly stable.

[@AmtrakCitiesSprinter64]

Yay! A new friend :)

[@TheTransporter007]

I quite enjoy transiting through Hartsfield airport...

[@georgewashington938]

the placement of the engines should also reduce yaw.

[@sandro2778]

The rear mounting of the engines will definitely be very quiet. Looking forward to seeing the final details.

[@NSilva-il8gp]

Embraer 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷

[@jmhowlett]

Also a jet stream of air produces more thrust than a fan blade blowing air every direction.

[@jstring]

Alaska airlines would be a perfect fit for this. Covering Skywest, horizon, etc for all the puddle jumpers. I hope this works out. Would be awesome to see a leaner turbo prop enter the market.

[@nathanielcallender2]

I believe it will

[@russellhawkins366]

The TPNG sounds like such an increase in efficiency that there are many reasons for it and currently none against.

[@dmitryche8905]

This Story remind me of the story about propfan PW 578-DX with excessive noise.

[@gteixeira]

Given they can't compete against the heavily subsidized A220 series, they need something that one up it by concept. If this aircraft can join low density city pairs cheaply the longer flight times will be compensated by no flight connections.

[@teddyroosevelt2838]

I’ve never been on an Embraer that I didn’t like

[@stephenj4937]

Not a big fan of the ERJ145 - a little too cramped for comfort.

[@teddyroosevelt2838]

@@stephenj4937 I don’t mind it actually

[@perezges3041]

Love it.

[@gosekinz]

not contra-rotating props? or is that 10-15% efficiency to old school? any possibility they will option a short range electric version?

[@rexfrew5392]

👍👍 Bravo!

[@twotone3471]

Why not have pusher propellers and reduce noise by that much more?

[@cybilmartin8889]

Be interesting to see where they find the speed/fuel burn sweet spot, the Dash-8 trades fuel consumption for high cruise, and offers a true APU vs the ATR72's slightly slower cruise and lack of an APU in favor of a hotel model engine brake. I think on the short segment it's going to be the feature breakdown that might make a bigger difference than raw fuel efficiency, particularly if you're only 5% overtop an ATR72. I mean when the ATR's fatigue out then absolutely there's going to be a market. Be interesting to see what falls out on the turboprop front, current SOTA from P&W is the PW127XT which at ~2750SHP is probably dead in their sights, and alleges a 3% fuel burn reduction.

[@evanr.2586]

Why would you put the props that for aft and not make them pushers?

[@ak5659]

Ever increasing traffic makes major hubs are increasingly more difficult to get to. When there's a choice people prefer to go to suburban airports like MacArthur, Westchester, & Newburgh in the NYC metro area. Yes, Newburgh is way out there, but if you live in a northern suburb it could easily take less time to reach. Since Covid there seems to be a market for planes that can do 'thin' routes profitably turboprops might make a comeback.

[@russellstephan6844]

Blade/engine separation and tail control surface damage... Let's hope it's stout stuff, inspected frequently, and no more tombstone technology (people having to die in order to get the design and long-term serviceability issues resolved).

[@marcelopereira3448]

My 30 experience in working on both turbo prop. E jets . Yes turboprop offer more fuel economy however it has way more maintenance and delays. So Embraer stick with E jets for the passenger and Mechanic sake.

[@tnuag01]

A rerun of the Embraer-FAMA CBA123 Vectra of 1990

[@BrokenLifeCycle]

For a moment, I thought they were going to go the route of the propfan, but this works too, I suppose.

[@bondisteve3617]

Great story!

[@andremule8196]

Longing to fly it

[@mrtnmbm]

Looks like the old Propfan prototype engines.

[@Gspec5]

Hopefully it has good range and speed. I’m not sure they can compete on cargo capacity. ATR has that covered. Unless they build Cargo only configurations then that might be a game changer. I see the Bombardier Q400s and Dash 8s being disrupted.

[@macilree]

What will the runway performance be like?

[@flybyairplane3528]

Many Yeats, there was concept trial on a DC9 WITH LARGE FAN TURBOPROPS, BUT IT WAS SO NOISY,,IT NEVER MASE IT TO MARKET, 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@wakimdavid2094]

What about the noise? Many company are making research on FanProp engines but no one give sound characteristics. Does it fit under chapter 14 in ICAO?

[@fredferd965]

This will be a QUIET airplane. There will be no loud buzz from the engines!!! Embraer knows what they're doing!!!! The Starship (which was a beautiful airplane) and the Piaggio Avanti were both pusher prop airplanes. This aircraft is using forward facing (called "tractor") engines.

[@givenfirstnamefamilyfirstn3935]

Propeller noise being lower with the blades closer to the fuselage?

[@fredferd965]

@@givenfirstnamefamilyfirstn3935 It is not the proximity to the fuselage that matters; it's the airflow over the propellers, the rpm of the propellers, and the pitch. Though the props are variable pitch. Believe me, the Brazilians know what they're doing. They are not going to make the noise mistake.

[@antonyh37]

I wonder how the turbo prop on the tail will affect the responsiveness of the tail.

[@twotone3471]

Very little, the tractor arrangement of the propeller would mean if the hub fails, the propeller would run into the wing or possibly into the cabin though. If it was a pusher design, the propeller would only detach under deceleration, and be less noisy for the passengers too. Hope the program misses the things that doomed the Beechcraft Starship though. They have to be a better plane than the Dash-8 and really that is a lot to ask.

[@calbob750]

C130J has six-bladed scimitar bladed propellers.

[@ChasKSmith1]

Why tractor not pusher props? Pusher would be quieter in cabin and easier to service

[@PauloPereira-jj4jv]

The stress in "EMBRAER" is in the third syllable: ER

[@B4audi]

otto aviation, a competition

[@stynkanator]

Cool and a welcome change but there are not enough pilots to fly them.

[@9regorio]

Bring back the GE36 unducted fan! thats what this reminds me of

[@SDCDIABLO]

Wonder if this will destroy the q4 and ATR

[@kenoliver8913]

Engines at the rear make for smoothness and quietness plus less risk of FOD on unimproved runways. But it seems to me that suffers from all the problems that the old trijets had - a lower mach limit (maybe not a big issue in a turboprop), probably need a T-tail to avoid deep stalls (hence higher drag), harder maintenance access (a big issue for a short haul plane that does LOTS of takeoffs and landings). Plus I think with the props there it may be very hard to design the plane to survive one of them disintegrating, which certification will surely require.

[@bernhardjordan9200]

Why T tail would Couse higher drag it the too of the T acts as a wing fence for the vertical surface? That's why sail planes use this configuration. T tails are heavier though due the weight and forces of the horizontal surface

[@DosAussieThai]

Both ATR and Dash 8 are using T-Tail so this will not be a disadvantageous difference. Mounting the engines on the tail, though, will add a lot of weight proportion to a much smaller aircraft than the trijets.

[@MSRTA_Productions]

*pog* TP90 sounds like a good name.

[@froggy251]

*pog*

[@paulo6104]

This thing looks like a Q400 and a CRJ900 have a offspring.