How Do Turboprops Get Delivered To Far Away Customers?

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Long Haul by Simple Flying

Long Haul by Simple Flying

Күн бұрын

Turboprop aircraft are used all over the world, yet most are manufactured in Europe or North America. With their limited range, this can lead to some complex multi-leg delivery flights. This is, of course, the case with larger jets too, but these are much more straightforward deliveries with their increased range. Let’s take a look at how turboprops get delivered to customers a long way away.
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@Starman331
@Starman331 2 жыл бұрын
I flew on an extremely long ferry flight on a shorts SD 360. We went....... Nashville, West Virginia, goosebay Canada, nasaseraq Greenland, Iceland, Belfast, Corsica, Crete, Luxor, Muscat Oman, Bombay, Calcutta, Bangkok, Kota Kinabalu Malaysia, Palau, Philippines, Saipan Micronesia. Took ten days, including a three day stop in Palau. Unpressurized, so mostly at or below ten thousand feet! Quite an experience.
@sapede
@sapede 2 жыл бұрын
Yet a Short Flight
@Starman331
@Starman331 2 жыл бұрын
@@sapede Yep, it is a much shorter flight, if you go west. It would be Nashville, Dallas, San Francisco, Hawaii, Saipan. But the shorts could not make California to Hawaii, even with ferry tanks. So we had to go the long way.
@trustmetours57
@trustmetours57 2 жыл бұрын
I think back to some of my C130 routes which were not quite as bad but RAF Lyneham which was 80 miles west of London UK to anywhere on the US/Canadian west coast was a 3 day trip. Lyneham to Gander or Goose or St Johns day 1, next stop Minneapolis then day 3 to draw a line from Calgary to San Diego, happy happy days.
@sapede
@sapede 2 жыл бұрын
@@Starman331 Pun-Pun Thought the plane was called 'Short 360'. :P
@Starman331
@Starman331 2 жыл бұрын
@@sapede Sorry I failed to pick up on your pun 👍
@Quintinius31
@Quintinius31 2 жыл бұрын
I used to work at ATR delivery center in Toulouse. We delivered to air Vanuatu a company in the pacific. The whole ferry flight was planned to take 13 days with 9 stops. Those deliveries were really important because the flight schedule is tight and we really had to deliver on time
@NicolaW72
@NicolaW72 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Thank you for this information.
@vondahe
@vondahe 2 жыл бұрын
I would almost volunteer my holidays for a seat on one of those flights.
@thatguyalex2835
@thatguyalex2835 2 жыл бұрын
I thought planes were delivered on ships, but I watched a Ferry Flight docudrama that explained that many propeller planes had to fly around the world, and make 12 stops. :)
@cr10001
@cr10001 2 жыл бұрын
@@alunesh12345 Does spamming enough all over comment threads get YOU to heaven??? If so I don't bloody wanna go there.
@MrBibi86
@MrBibi86 17 күн бұрын
wow. that is a long delivery time
@deejayimm
@deejayimm 2 жыл бұрын
Just for those who don't know, turboprops are actually pretty fuel efficient, they are just better operating at lower altitudes and lower speeds, and thus are relegated to shorter flying distances. I know it's true because I read it on the internet.
@alexhinterreiter129
@alexhinterreiter129 2 жыл бұрын
yes and no. The engine produces thrust using a propeller so most turboprops can only get to around 25,000ft. This is because a propeller has to have a minimum density of air to "grab" onto.
@deejayimm
@deejayimm 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexhinterreiter129 oh wow.... thanks for reinterpreting the point I made.
@MaynardFreek
@MaynardFreek 2 жыл бұрын
@@alunesh12345 no
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt 8 күн бұрын
Fuel efficiency first got important for range and then for the economy and then for environment . If something on fossil fuel has a short range at optimum cruise speed, it is not efficient. All planes fill their wings with fuel. Some cheap cars have a tiny tank.
@memofromessex
@memofromessex 2 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing an article on people who fly single-prop planes (Cessna like planes) across the Atlantic to buyers on either side. They have to go super low, obviously it's very risky and weather dependent
@james1787
@james1787 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve watched a pilot’s KZbin channel who flew a Cessna from the us to Europe taking a route through Canada - Greenland - Iceland.. must be quite an adventure.
@nicolas2419
@nicolas2419 2 жыл бұрын
When I worked in French Guyana, a company specialized in photogrammetry bought a second-hand Cessna 206, optimized for this kind of mission in Denmark. The ferry flight took two weeks and 17 steps via Iceland, Greenland, Canada, USA and Antilles. The pilot, a Danish, did it with his 16/17yo daughter. They spent only few hours in French Guyana, taking the first flight to Paris aboard an Air France A340.
@MrBibi86
@MrBibi86 17 күн бұрын
@@nicolas2419 it's crazy to think back in the day commercial flights would take days with many stops
@hugolafhugolaf
@hugolafhugolaf 16 күн бұрын
Why do they have to fly low?
@skullsaintdead
@skullsaintdead 11 күн бұрын
@@hugolafhugolaf Most are unpressurised, so don't tend to fly above 10-14,000 ft (just so the pilots/passengers don't pass out from hypoxia, or lack of oxygen). Don't know why they'd fly 'super low' (or what that means in the context of OPs comment; it may be relative to commercial jets, which fly at 30-40,000ft) but it could be that props are optimised for flying lower and at lower speeds than turbofans (jets). There'd also be different weather conditions to consider at diff alts, so that may also be a factor.
@nicolas2419
@nicolas2419 2 жыл бұрын
When I was worked in French Guyana, my company shared its office with another one specialized in aerial photogrammetry. This company bought a new aircraft, a Cessna 206 in Denmark. The previous one was lost during a landing in a remote airfield in Guyana. The small aircraft did a long ferry flight in 17 steps : Denmark, Scotland, Iceland, Greenland, Canada, USA and Antilles.
@andrewtaylor940
@andrewtaylor940 2 жыл бұрын
As an interesting historical example of this sort of thing, by 1944-45 the US Military had worked things out where any 2 engine aircraft in their inventory could “self ferry” to any point in the Pacific (that wasn’t Japanese controlled at the moment), From Los Angeles or San Diego, without needing to be carried by ship.
@guyh9992
@guyh9992 2 жыл бұрын
At the start of 1942 the B-26 had to be assembled in Hawaii, while the B-25 could be flown all the way to Australia.
@jzee95
@jzee95 2 жыл бұрын
Q. How Do Turboprops Get Delivered To Far Away Customers? A. They stop to re-fuel. thanks for coming to my ted talk.
@Fish-mi7fw
@Fish-mi7fw 16 күн бұрын
great, straight to the point
@graynevergetsoffofhisscreen
@graynevergetsoffofhisscreen 15 күн бұрын
or the cargo ones that can be mid air refuelled can just get a tanker plane
@ashleyrego2877
@ashleyrego2877 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for covering this.... Quite an important topic
@homer5103
@homer5103 17 күн бұрын
Not really
@JamesSymmonds
@JamesSymmonds 2 жыл бұрын
"The crew even made a short video about it" And then they don't even put a link to said video.
@sidv4615
@sidv4615 2 жыл бұрын
@ me if you find that video
@Sky-uc5zh
@Sky-uc5zh 2 жыл бұрын
@@sidv4615 kzbin.info/www/bejne/pICYi5KincysrLM
@QemeH
@QemeH 2 жыл бұрын
@@Sky-uc5zh Thank you so much!
@tylerkatz719
@tylerkatz719 13 күн бұрын
Me also looking for that video
@steve3291
@steve3291 2 жыл бұрын
I was doing an IT project for British Airways at their maintenance base at Heathrow. From time to time, you would see aircraft from other carriers. Anyway, one day an Aeromexico Boeing 737 turned up and I asked the engineer how it got there and he said (logically when you think about it) "The same way all other 737's make it to Europe". Apparently, it had flown from Mexico across the US, refuelled and then did the run to somewhere like Shannon before finally the short hop to Heathrow. Never found out why it was in the UK.
@Melanie16040
@Melanie16040 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure when this was but newer model 737's are capable of going direct from Mexico City to Heathrow when ferrying.
@vivpro1951
@vivpro1951 2 жыл бұрын
I once saw an Aerolineas Argentinas 737 at my home airport Nagpur, central india. Till this date i don’t have a clue what it was doing here
@janvanbunningen6468
@janvanbunningen6468 2 жыл бұрын
@@vivpro1951 maybe Aerolineas Argentinas sold it and it was resprayed?
@vivpro1951
@vivpro1951 2 жыл бұрын
@@janvanbunningen6468 thats a possibility
@Agent44996
@Agent44996 2 жыл бұрын
This has always been a big question of mine. Thanks for this.
@sjappy
@sjappy 2 жыл бұрын
This channel being called ‘long haul’ makes it so much better
@EnRiCo45100
@EnRiCo45100 2 жыл бұрын
what a conincidence, the aircraft from my company (Pilatus Porter) was delivered from Swiss to Indonesia not long ago, and had to make sseveral stops in europe, middle east, south asia and finally landing in Indonesia not too long ago. took about more than week for the trip
@desert_jin6281
@desert_jin6281 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers from a fellow Pilatus employee.
@ChristopherWHerbert
@ChristopherWHerbert 2 жыл бұрын
Air New Zealand have said a delivery flight of an ATR72 will travel by way of seven countries on route to New Zealand. It must be noted also that Air New Zealand have one of the largest fleets of DH Dash 8 aircraft outside of Canada
@joes6089
@joes6089 5 ай бұрын
Those dash 8 were ferried across the pacific, using fuel tanks in fuselage
@Deltarious
@Deltarious 4 күн бұрын
Ferry flights being possible to most places in the world is one of the things 'gifted' to us by the legacy of aviation's development where before we did not really have the capability of doing long flights without hops and so many airports in fairly inhospitable places were opened with fuel to facilitate these hops and a reasonable number of them still remain today, which is pretty cool
@magnustan841
@magnustan841 2 жыл бұрын
I remember Air Caledonie had one of their ATR 72-600s stopover in my local general aviation airport on its delivery flight from France. One of just 8 stops the aircraft made. What about crew? Are there two crews used to deliver such turboprops?
@kingsharkoon
@kingsharkoon 2 жыл бұрын
There is usually just one crew flying the plane, resting along the way in hotels. The crew is being flown in/out of the origin/destination airport on normal airline flights.
@Deamon93IT
@Deamon93IT 2 жыл бұрын
Kudos to the crews flying these ferry flights, as it is quite challenging to plan and execute one
@heronimousbrapson863
@heronimousbrapson863 15 күн бұрын
Ferry flights were done in the second world war to deliver north american built bombers to their bases in britain. As most male military pilots were needed to fly missions, ferry flights often used female pilots.
@thatsicilian787
@thatsicilian787 2 жыл бұрын
I was wondering this, and now i know. U have a new subscriber
@gezatherton1071
@gezatherton1071 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a fondness for the Dash 8. Love them! :)
@sirhc_knil
@sirhc_knil 2 жыл бұрын
I thank the KZbin algorithm for recommending a video to me that I find so interesting because turboprop are my favourite types of planes and have a documentary video about them is amazing You also gained a new subscriber
@spicemasterii6775
@spicemasterii6775 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I always assumed it was delivered via Amazon Prime.
@TRPGpilot
@TRPGpilot 15 күн бұрын
Actually you are correct for deliveries in south america but once you start going further that option is no longer available . . .
@aviationgeek08forever89
@aviationgeek08forever89 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for making this video! I actually didn't properly know this until today, learnt something new today! 😊
@theshadowman1398
@theshadowman1398 2 жыл бұрын
The ferry flights sound epic.
@38911bytefree
@38911bytefree 2 жыл бұрын
very interesing !!!. Thanks.
@grantt1589
@grantt1589 2 жыл бұрын
I started thinking of this when I was playing airline manager 4
@Nathan-zi3bl
@Nathan-zi3bl 2 жыл бұрын
My dad flew his bonanza from Paris to Melbourne which took 2 weeks
@thatguyalex2835
@thatguyalex2835 2 жыл бұрын
Was it the 1940s-1970s V-tail model?
@Nathan-zi3bl
@Nathan-zi3bl 2 жыл бұрын
@@thatguyalex2835 nope it’s a Beechcraft bonanza a36 registered F-GAPZ
@thatguyalex2835
@thatguyalex2835 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nathan-zi3bl So, a normal tail. Cool. :) Does he still own the Bonanza?
@Nathan-zi3bl
@Nathan-zi3bl 2 жыл бұрын
@@thatguyalex2835 yes normal tail and he still owns it
@thatguyalex2835
@thatguyalex2835 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nathan-zi3bl Nice. Does he allow you to fly it? If so, maybe you can fly to your favorite city. Also, what is the climb rate, and top speed? Does it have modern avionics? I don't own or fly any airplanes, but aviation technology is fascinating stuff.
@XxXLOLMarioXxX
@XxXLOLMarioXxX 2 жыл бұрын
When I was working at LET, we would fit a large fuel tank into the cabin of the L-410, which the airline would ship back to us after the delivery. In the more recent years, a lot of Russian customers requested delivering the aircraft on a truck, so we covered it in foil and packed it on it.
@killernat1234
@killernat1234 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to see Manchester get mentioned
@MSRTA_Productions
@MSRTA_Productions 2 жыл бұрын
Wow...one ATR72 made history for ULH...man that's unbelievable! I wonder if that's the longest ATR flight in the world
@PakaBubi
@PakaBubi 2 жыл бұрын
I was always curious how an ATR ended up in Bora Bora
@liamsmith4566
@liamsmith4566 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't you already make a video of this on simply flying, apart from that, thanks for taking the time to tlak about turboprops
@Name-ot3xw
@Name-ot3xw 2 жыл бұрын
Depends on if it’s easier to add more tanks or to remove the wings for shipping
@rossbryan6102
@rossbryan6102 2 жыл бұрын
WORKING AS A TRUCK. DELIVERY DRIVE AWAY DRIVER, I FIND THIS QUITE INTERESTING!!
@portoalex1062
@portoalex1062 2 жыл бұрын
Recently Olympic Airlines - (OA), part of the Aegean Airlines (A3) group - leased ATR-72s & ATR-42s from Virgin Australia to replace Q400s on its fleet. Took a 3 days ferry flight to come in Greece
@jasminejohnston6393
@jasminejohnston6393 2 жыл бұрын
The Dash-8 is the only turboprop I’ve flown in, usually with Air Canada Express/Jazz Air
@cr10001
@cr10001 2 жыл бұрын
Ack! 11:02 Papeete is *not* 'Papeet', it's roughly 'Papay-eytay' (every 'e' sounded separately)
@stan1951ful
@stan1951ful 2 жыл бұрын
Fabulous Video!! Thank you so much!!
@johnforster5312
@johnforster5312 13 күн бұрын
Fun fact: the single engine Air Tractor AT-802 needs to be ferry flown for delivery, including ferrying across the Pacific Ocean from Texas to Australia. To accomplish this, the approx 3,000 litre hopper is also filled with fuel to extend the aircraft's range.
@azizc64
@azizc64 10 ай бұрын
Some years ago i was about to take off in a C182 from Toluca, Mexico and i was surprised to look a Qantas Dash8 psrked on the ramp wondering if it was on the way from Canada to Australia to be delivered via to south america the across south pacific...
@chanzeyuan
@chanzeyuan 16 күн бұрын
As a Malaysian I am proud to see Fireflyz featured there.
@Aiz.maldives
@Aiz.maldives 17 күн бұрын
Maldivian also uses dash-8-300/200s and atr 72/42-600s
@JaceTan-90
@JaceTan-90 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm, so that’s how Firefly 2:57 and Malindo in Malaysia has these ATRs in Subang Airport
@trooperdgb9722
@trooperdgb9722 5 күн бұрын
REX airlines here in Australia operates the largest fleet of SAAB 340's in the world. I wonder what THAT ferry flight looked like? (I say "looked" because i think they all came out some time ago!)
@barrytipton1179
@barrytipton1179 15 күн бұрын
As a £10 immigrant to South Africa in 1966 from the Uk the route was from Southend to Ostend change aircraft to Basel . At Basel we kept seeing lovely jets come in however we were put on a Swissair DC6 stopping at Tripoli , Chad . Belgian Congo , Angola finally landing at Jan Smutts 36hours later. We came back a year later via sea on the SA Oranga far more comfortable . Flew back on a 707 stopping in Canary Islands for avcat. Tell that to kids today they won’t believe it.
@jjmcrosbie
@jjmcrosbie 2 жыл бұрын
As an example, Fokker 50 VH-FNI was delivered to Australia in March, after flying from Amsterdam via Athens, Cairo, Bahrain, Karachi, Calcutta, Bangkok, Seletar, Denpasar, Darwin, Alice Springs and Melbourne. Interesting trip.
@TheHsan22
@TheHsan22 2 жыл бұрын
I’m guessing that was c1988
@jjmcrosbie
@jjmcrosbie 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheHsan22 Well Done! The full record reads: Built in February 1988, the one below was delivered to Australia in March, after flying from Amsterdam via Athens, Cairo, Bahrain, Karachi, Calcutta, Bangkok, Seletar, Denpasar, Darwin, Alice Springs and Melbourne. SkyWest (Australia) was the third owner of this plane, and SkyWest has been acquired by Virgin Airlines. It looks nice, climbing out from Perth on Christmas Eve, 2015. (Sorry, can't attach the pic.)
@Bbq7272
@Bbq7272 2 жыл бұрын
An in-law of mine ferried some F-27s back in the day
@l1nxislazy308
@l1nxislazy308 2 жыл бұрын
i like the arkia ATR72 :)
@AirFlightTravels
@AirFlightTravels 2 жыл бұрын
Sky Express ATR 600 flew from Athens to Dublin about 1700 miles
@taytay1336
@taytay1336 2 жыл бұрын
I like the dash 8
@MCscarfacematt
@MCscarfacematt 2 жыл бұрын
jet stream answers my question on why my flights back to visit family takes 2 and a half hours and the flight back home only takes 2 hours it might also explain why there is more turbulence flying west
@zacnewzealand
@zacnewzealand 21 күн бұрын
Please make also about SAAB 340.
@joep5080
@joep5080 16 күн бұрын
pretty sure the stopping to refuel applies
@revaddict
@revaddict 8 күн бұрын
About a few months ago someone posted a guy flying a small Cessna from the mainland to Hawaii with the possibilities of additional tanks of both fuel and whiskey.. 😂
@roadie4360
@roadie4360 18 күн бұрын
Although not turbo prop? The winter medical evacuation flights to the south pole on the twin otters must involve a few refuelling stops?
@brianb-p6586
@brianb-p6586 11 күн бұрын
Twin Otters are turboprops.
@RedArrow73
@RedArrow73 23 күн бұрын
The L-188 Lockheed Electra was the best Turbopropliner ever to come along.
@mp-db5nq
@mp-db5nq 5 күн бұрын
I remember one filled with plastic removable fuel tanks in place off some seats
@MG101
@MG101 Жыл бұрын
Seeing a dash 8 taxi looks so strange because the fuselage looks like it doesn’t have enough support from the gear
@Pete856
@Pete856 12 күн бұрын
Amazingly, the 1st non-stop transatlantic flight took place in 1919 in a twin engine WWI bomber. So even in the first world war some aircraft had more range than modern turboprops.
@Banom7a
@Banom7a 2 жыл бұрын
7:24 - One mistake , they stop at Subang Airport (WMSA) and not KLIA main (WMKK)
@chrisoconnor9521
@chrisoconnor9521 2 жыл бұрын
Because they never proofread anything
@oscarsusan3834
@oscarsusan3834 2 жыл бұрын
A neighbour and I saw this a got to talking about it.Consensus was on a Cybertruck.😳
@kishorewalsh9031
@kishorewalsh9031 6 күн бұрын
Could you touch more on liat and it's history?
@stradivarioushardhiantz5179
@stradivarioushardhiantz5179 2 жыл бұрын
If Dash-8 doesn't have an enhanced ETOPS rate..... Let us discuss Q400 with external fuel tank to carry additional 4.5T of fuel for ferrying special mission modified by Marshall Aerospace giving it endurance to 12hrs.....🛫🤓
@robertwarn9756
@robertwarn9756 2 жыл бұрын
Transpacific flights to Australia? I assume the Dash 8s of QF came via Hawaii and possibly other Pacific islands. A friend once ferried a light twin from the US via this way.
@AlRoderick
@AlRoderick 2 жыл бұрын
If you look at that Fiji delivery they did in the video one of the stops is Australia and they did it by flying the long way around, Europe to the Middle East onto South Asia.
@TheNewGreenIsBlue
@TheNewGreenIsBlue 2 жыл бұрын
Or they came via the Atlantic route over Asia. Whole lotta Ocean between Hawaii and anything else.
@KingOfBanks
@KingOfBanks 2 жыл бұрын
ATR 72...They TAS at roughly 260kts burning around 700kgs/hr and have 5000kgs of fuel = roughly 1800nm (so nearer the 2000nn not 700nm figures given).
@lohikarhu734
@lohikarhu734 2 жыл бұрын
What about reserve fuel required on commercial flights? And, non-optimal speed/altitude, and climb out file rate...
@monibstar
@monibstar 2 жыл бұрын
4:28 self pushback :)
@jackdbur
@jackdbur 2 жыл бұрын
Turbo props with their 20k+ flight levels are easy compared to piston engines flying at 3k to 7k feet without radar or good meteorology that got ugly often with the addition of radial piston engines often breaking.
@kishorewalsh9031
@kishorewalsh9031 2 жыл бұрын
Its sad that liat retired the atr 72..
@MrJohnreader
@MrJohnreader 2 жыл бұрын
Wish y you had shown the route to New Zealand
@joelwilliams4762
@joelwilliams4762 2 жыл бұрын
Toulouse, Luxor, Muscat, Colombo, Singapore, Darwin, Brisbane, Christchurch Went there and back with my old man when Air New Zealand swapped out for newer models of ATR-72 3 week trip
@flyinghigh2000
@flyinghigh2000 2 жыл бұрын
I have seen turbo prop ferry flight. But the worst I think is whirly bird ferry flight. Even shorter range and lesser altitude.
@dash7stol
@dash7stol 16 күн бұрын
“Dash 8” is a bit generic. The -100, -300 and especially -400 have different maximum ranges. The -400 with long-range cruise could reach Central Europe from Downsview with 2 stops, skipping Greenland, while the smaller ones would need a Greenland stop. We had some 300s that crossed the Atlantic 4 times within less than a year for a combination of change of proprietor and tax reasons.
@mhussainhamdulay1013
@mhussainhamdulay1013 Жыл бұрын
PLZ make new video on turboprop in 2020
@gopher6532
@gopher6532 2 жыл бұрын
2:10 how do you get this visualisation of range
@yahyaadib62
@yahyaadib62 2 жыл бұрын
8:00 I didn't know Etihad had turboprops.
@horiginsfs7561
@horiginsfs7561 2 жыл бұрын
Sixth! This video is great.
@aarondefreitas2679
@aarondefreitas2679 2 жыл бұрын
Argyle international (TVSA) @5:37
@macdjord
@macdjord 2 жыл бұрын
Random idea: Alternate history in which efficient long-range jets were never developed, so commercial trans-oceanic air travel depends on civilian aircraft carriers for mid-ocean refueling.
@jasonirwin4631
@jasonirwin4631 2 жыл бұрын
Cool idea but if long range jets were never developed than we would probably see short ranged jet power flying boat that us small flying boat bases built on island to cross oceans and there would probably still be a large market for ocean liners.
@allangibson2408
@allangibson2408 2 жыл бұрын
Transatlantic propeller operators used to fly via Gander and Iceland for this very reason.
@berndheiden7630
@berndheiden7630 2 жыл бұрын
@@allangibson2408 And even in 1965 when I had the pleasure to cross the North Atlantic for the first time in a then fairly new Jet aircraft operated by KLM we flew from Amsterdam to Shannon, on to Gander and then New York. If that was dictated by fuel range, navigation or radio range or passenger demand I don‘t know. Or maybe it was just the old „oil-trace“ that the former prop-airplanes had to follow.
@allangibson2408
@allangibson2408 2 жыл бұрын
@@berndheiden7630 The early jets were even more range limited than the propeller aircraft. It was high bypass turbofans that made one stop transatlantic flights possible (but they still routed over these airports as emergencies were not unknown). Piston engine airliners were know to lose engines regularly on transatlantic routes (literally - they fell off the planes on about 10% of the transatlantic flights).
@berndheiden7630
@berndheiden7630 2 жыл бұрын
@@allangibson2408 Thanks for the info! I was 17 y/o and the 3rd time out of my native Germany (after one weekend trip to te Netherlands and another to London!). This opened the door to the big wide world for me.
@morganahoff2242
@morganahoff2242 2 жыл бұрын
Aaaaaahhhhh! I forgot to like and subscribe!!!
@MrBibi86
@MrBibi86 17 күн бұрын
*Do new Turboprop planes still get designed and built with improvements?*
@andrelot
@andrelot 2 жыл бұрын
Is Hawaii the most isolated large archipelago in the World in terms of flight planning for smaller aircraft?
@MGXsport
@MGXsport 2 жыл бұрын
You guys missed the ATR's and Dash-8's that were ferried to Hawaii from the Mainland.
@johnrossberg1719
@johnrossberg1719 17 күн бұрын
Your right. To do that jump internal fuel bladders are needed. Far more complicated than just filling her up and fly to the next airport.
@nadernowzadi1
@nadernowzadi1 2 жыл бұрын
Did we talk about ATR s in cold climate yet!
@RaY_77W
@RaY_77W Жыл бұрын
Ahh the Liat ATR-72-600
@karlossargeant3872
@karlossargeant3872 2 жыл бұрын
Yup Liat ATR 42-600's Still operates in the Liat Network I hope they'll reach the Jet Age Series soon.
@get2dachoppa249
@get2dachoppa249 2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, leave island any time airways. ; )
@corwintipper7317
@corwintipper7317 2 жыл бұрын
do lower range jets like the CRJ have similar routes?
@vivpro1951
@vivpro1951 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but they can fly a bit longer
@joes6089
@joes6089 5 ай бұрын
I delivered 2 dash 8s to Bangladesh. Stopped in Abu Dhabi and India, not Oman, like manufacturers
@VLIEGTUI
@VLIEGTUI 2 жыл бұрын
You miss firefly airlines, they have 12 fleets of ATR
@roberttx175
@roberttx175 2 жыл бұрын
How do they get around the ETOPS certification?
@dalentoews3418
@dalentoews3418 2 жыл бұрын
Don't carry paying passengers I'm sure effects some requirements. Same reason 737 Max could fly shuttle flights even while grounded.
@Syd_plane_and_train_spotter777
@Syd_plane_and_train_spotter777 19 күн бұрын
How does Qantaslink get their DHC-200, -300 and -400 series from Canada?
@AverageDiscordMod
@AverageDiscordMod 18 күн бұрын
it would probably go something like this. america > greenland, Greenland > ice land, ice land > Europe, Europe > Turkey, Turkey > UAE, then to India, once in India its pretty self explanatory, India > asia > Indonesia > austrlia
@martinwalker9386
@martinwalker9386 2 жыл бұрын
Read Ernest K. Gann’s “Fate Is The Hunter” in which he writes about his WWII flying experiences, as well as commercial aviation.
@Ayrshore
@Ayrshore 13 күн бұрын
LHR? Nobody is doing a ferry flight via Heathrow, surely?
@danielho5635
@danielho5635 2 жыл бұрын
7:02 French Polynesia's capital, Papeete is pronounced -- Papa-yeti I know because I've been there.
@davec8921
@davec8921 2 жыл бұрын
They definitely go on boats sometimes too
@thatguyalex2835
@thatguyalex2835 2 жыл бұрын
Yep. The safest way to deliver a plane is by ship, IMO. No dealing with flying airplanes to their maximum range, with engines running on fumes. :) Lol...
@Palmit_
@Palmit_ 2 жыл бұрын
7:38 flying INTO HEADWIND increases range? i would have thought once at altitude you'd want a tailwind? i'm not in anyway educated about flying by the way.. i know that tking off and and landing is into headwind. but my brain can't figure out how that would increase range at altitude. thanks for any explanations. :)
@cr10001
@cr10001 2 жыл бұрын
I think he said the range would be DEcreased into a headwind (not 'increased'). You mis-heard him. The rest of your comment is correct.
@aviationnj
@aviationnj 2 жыл бұрын
1:58 you forgot Porter
@duncandmcgrath6290
@duncandmcgrath6290 2 жыл бұрын
The Dash 8’s are built within a few kms of Billy Bishop, Porters base
@desertwindauh
@desertwindauh 2 жыл бұрын
What happens to the delivery aircrews following the long delivery flight?
@vondahe
@vondahe 2 жыл бұрын
They fly back commercially.
@thatguyalex2835
@thatguyalex2835 2 жыл бұрын
@@vondahe The ticket prices are most likely covered by the ferry flight company the deliver air crews work for. :)
@samanthasmythe6243
@samanthasmythe6243 2 жыл бұрын
These are jets for the most part. Most commercial airlines are almost always a jet of some kind
@nadernowzadi1
@nadernowzadi1 2 жыл бұрын
What !!!
@samanthasmythe6243
@samanthasmythe6243 2 жыл бұрын
Nader Nowzadi from what I understand they are jets and many jets are turboprops.
@samanthasmythe6243
@samanthasmythe6243 2 жыл бұрын
Nader Nowzadi it seems there is a jet behind the turbo prop from what I seen but I think I can see if I can see it online
@samanthasmythe6243
@samanthasmythe6243 2 жыл бұрын
Nader Nowzadi but most unless it’s like the Boeing 707 inside the engine cage has a turbo prop inside of there. But yes many times on most in use commercial airliners that are turbos are jets. They have jet engines on them
@samanthasmythe6243
@samanthasmythe6243 2 жыл бұрын
Nader Nowzadi anyways sorry I am posting so much. It seems under the piston engine there is a jet engine if you see there is usually a intake there
@cr10001
@cr10001 2 жыл бұрын
At 8:35 that Azul plane looks like it's bending in the middle! After very careful study, it's actually just the paint scheme that gives that illusion. But really, if it fooled me, it can fool other people (cough nervous passengers cough) - they really shouldn't have painted it like that!
@rudragupta2491
@rudragupta2491 2 жыл бұрын
7:16 -my dumb ass thought they flew this direct smh
@briggsahoy1
@briggsahoy1 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting, Arab, Canada
@Foersom_
@Foersom_ 2 жыл бұрын
How are extra fuel tanks in the cabin connected to the normal fuel tanks and piping to extend the flight?
@MM22966
@MM22966 15 күн бұрын
There is usually an internal connector behind a panel.
@angelabb8924
@angelabb8924 2 жыл бұрын
I LOVVVVVVVVVEEEEEEEEEE AERO PLANES👍👍✌✌👍👍
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