Emergency! Close to total FAILURE! Honda Odyssey 3.5

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[@fusionsportdaily1650]

I have been loving the X-Files theme every time your daughter walks into frame. Makes her seem like an anomaly. It gives me a chuckle every time.

[@StrongDreamsWaitHere]

It’s so odd to me to see your daughter in a dress, because my granddaughter and all her friends are scrubby jeans kind of girls.

[@redbo1519]

Also loving the x-files effect 😂

[@jaykellett2327]

"The truth is out there....trust no one!" (Keep your eyes out for the cigarette smoking man.)

[@abdulhkeem.alhadhrami]

Fun to wait and see if she will make an appearance on each video or not!

[@czechmate6916]

Yes I love it too but I couldn’t remember what tv show it was from 😂

[@williamtakacs7466]

Good job husband unit. The two of you make a good team.

[@jaykellett2327]

My wife and I are a team too. She breaks cars, and I fix them. Some day I want the other role. Never going to happen, I know, but let me savor the thought for a little while. (later) Okay, where is my 10mm socket?

[@jefferyberry7010]

@@jaykellett2327 The Wife Unit now has a full set of 10mm as long as she doesn't let Ray know about them.

[@mikenonameneeded3485]

@@jaykellett2327 strange how that works. Same issue at my house. Lol

[@Flakmagnet1701]

So...wife unit owns the Dirty Max now, and Ray's fixed his new mini van. Beautymuss

[@NeoMK]

Until they add up the fuel bill...

[@fanofwizard101]

Hey Ray, im a honda tech, and it's the spool valve that's leaking on an alternator, not the valve covers leaking on it. Front spool valve always leaks on top of the alternator

[@awshortclips]

Your visual memory is great. I have to take pictures during the disassembly process to remind me where things go and how.

[@Commander_Sonak]

Wife Units wants her own truck now. Happy wife happy life.

[@cyak1551]

**ATTENTION RAY** - This is a known issue with many Honda V-6 models where the front VTEC spool valve leaks oil down onto the alternator below. Honda TSB 20-023 has been issued with the technical repair procedure to address this issue. I had this same problem on my in-laws 2016 Honda Odyssey. Replacing the gasket on the front VTEC spool valve resolves the issue. DO NOT replace the front valve cover gasket. It will not resolve the oil leaking issue and you will end up frying your new alternator eventually again. Once again, Honda TSB 20-023 has the repair procedure for a proper fix for this. Hope this helps others on here as well!

[@itech301]

thanks for this. came to mention as well. I've been through this already lol

[@IMelkor42]

I like that people share knowledge and keep each other straight around here.

[@GoatOrange]

Also came to comments to relay this bit of info. Keep up the good work!

[@techbilldeaf]

This issue is also found on Honda Pilot as well too.

[@clbcl5]

This was just done on 1/25 so hopefully he sees this.

[@itech301]

for the record, did this same job on my odyssey. very funny to watch you go through the same struggles and thought processes I did! I'd highly recommend the VCM delete others are recommending. also, the oil spillage above the alternator is probably coming from the rocker spool valve (VCM solenoid) gasket. I haven't finished the video yet, but if you didn't, you seriously need to replace that or you're gonna be frying the alternator again

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

Gotta love when the wife tells you way after the fact that there is a issue with one of the vehicles @Rainman Ray's Repairs

[@yogib37]

that is very typical

[@NeoMK]

@@yogib37 They do it on purpose, we all know that.

[@scottwheeler2494]

My mother killed more than one car ignoring idiot lights and other warning signs. Her other habit was delivering cars on empty for someone else to fill. And this was back in the days of full serve gas stations with actual mechanics!

[@howardwolfgang9171]

It's kinda like the time my daughter told me the "Genie lamp" was coming on on her car "CRINGE"

[@jaykellett2327]

Wife: "Yeah, the silly light came on, but the car was working fine.....and then the car broke for no reason at all." (Husband looks down at his feet and slowly shakes his head, just knowing that a mechanical explanation of what happened will not achieve anything, and he has been defeated once again.)

[@gregorylewis8471]

What an ordeal just for an alternator replacement! Makes me fondly remember replacing alternator on my old Buick. 20 minute job. I h8te new cars! Yay! Wife unit & X-files walk-on! Thanks Ray for taking us into your late night adult beverage time delayed work! Only thing more important than beer-thirty is coffee time! 😁

[@K.Kelly87]

I now how you feel. I changed my alt on my 1991 Chevy S-10 Blazer, 4.3L V-6, in under 30 mins, in the parking lot of an Autozone, 60 miles from home, and snowing like crazy. Those were the days.....

[@danieltaylor9164]

It is frustrating when something like this happens at an inconvenient time. But on the other hand, you have the skill, knowledge, shop and tools to handle it immediately! That is more than most of us. I'm glad to see you got it sorted with no issues. Have a great day!

[@greensfarmland]

Have a 07 Odyssey and replaced the alternator last year with just over 170,000 miles. So I would have to say it was just probably it's time. Outside of removing the a/c hose, I was able to fish it out the same way. Nice repair....

[@seaeagle19962008]

Time to go home and chill out Ray. Take good care mate. All the best with the new business you have there. Glen from Sydney Australia 🇦🇺

[@patrickreynolds801]

Perfect timing for me My wife unit needs her van alternator replaced as well. Same vehicle. $$$$ saved. Thanks man.

[@Gizepi]

Hey Ray, I know a guy that runs a coach / bus company andhe was telling me once that he was finding it harder and harder to find vehicles with manual box and he wanted manual gears because the auto boxs were a pain in the backside. I advised him to check the voltage on the battery because the electronics required the 24v and lots of current before it would work properly. He changed battery for a new one in the bus that had gearing issues and low and behold the gearing isses disappeared. As if by magic :)

[@thomasflynn5366]

In the mid 90s I had to change the alternator on my wife's car. She asked how long it would take and I told her a half hour. I was used to 70s cars. I thought that was bad with all that I had to take off to get it out but today's cars are ridiculous.

[@donalddrake6512]

Wife unit laughing at your haste and stress level is priceless. You handle it well though.

[@2pugman]

Ray, YOU created this !

[@stevee5668]

And she was right, it was funny.

[@dotar9586]

Don't you just hate when the customer is hanging around looking over your shoulder.😡

[@opendstudio7141]

That was painful. It's a blessing you two (+a dog) didn't get stranded on your last road trip in that Honda while fetching the tow truck. The bright side, you didn't have to call for a tow truck to get back home. FATE.

[@rullywow3834]

We have the same 2015 odyssey. Alternator went at 85k when we were about 3hrs from home. Changed it out in the WalMart parking lot while family was waiting inside car around 1am. Bought a cheap tool set at WalMart and made it happen.

[@theslimeylimey]

The more of your videos I watch, the more I appreciate longitude mounted 4 cylinder engines.

[@theslimeylimey]

@TheMrDudiness 2013 Suzuki Grand Vitara 2.4 4cyl 4x4 SUV is my current vehicle. My previous car was a Miata that had an inline mounted 4cyl. I also had a Toyota Celica with an inline mounted 4cyl so there's three for you :)

[@user-su8oq6wh5h]

OK Stop.. I can't help but LOL every time that music plays when your daughter walks out. I have to take time to catch my breath. Cracks me up big time.

[@Wakeupandsniffthecoffee]

The nator turned out a bit easier than I expected it would at the beginning. It's nice you didn't have to remove the compressor and nator from the bottom.

[@stevenbaker9327]

Actually less has to come apart if you do it from the bottom. Replaced both on MIL'S last summer.

[@crazygeorgelincoln]

High tensile repairs where the time allocation is in the negative have their own flavor, thanks for extending the moment taking the trouble to film it for us. Thanks for the moral support, replaced my electric power steering today. My "new to me" car requires bumper removal to change headlight bulb , what the hell are thses designers being paid for ,my laundry basket has more order.

[@56buickguy]

My wife's Honda Odyssey battery went bad after one year too. She turned off all the toys and handed me the keys with a love note to fix it. And I did her alternator with out removing the A/C. More fun watching you do it !!!!

[@TLGEyes]

For those who don't know- No, you don't need to recover the ac and move the ac line. Just unbolt the bracket next to the PS pump, and sneak the alternator up on the left side of the AC hose.

[@kaafromoz]

WOW didn't know Honda Odyssey's would not go into reverse if the battery is dying and hmm the Ghost Who Walk's around your shop now carries stuff around with her. Well the total rebuild of the Honda continues soon it will be a wiring rebuild as the electrons will freak out all the wiring with the new power it is getting. Also brave man handing over your beast to the Wife Unit, after seeing her video she has never felt all that power before and was scarily enjoying it so prepare for the "I want a truck" conversation too come mate 😱😱😱😱😵😵😱😱😱😱 Keep Safe Keep Strong 🦘🦘🦘🦘💖💖

[@coreywashington2831]

I bought my 2011 odyssey for my wife super cheap because of this , they thought it needed a trans and it was the alternator

[@Bryanja81]

No way I could remove that alternator right now. Had an angle grinder with a cutting wheel accident on the back of my left thumb this week. Cut the tendon and knuckle, so I'm down to one thumb. 😆 kickback is real and cheap gloves don't do crap. Be careful folks.

[@simonworthington5162]

Nice one and that was epic and agree oil and brake cleaner will kill the alternator and wow a Denso unit as would be expensive. Always keep wife unit happy 😊 😊 . Great job and Wife Unit be Happy now.

[@itsadogslife...8825]

No,no,noooo she want a truck now !!!

[@richardploeser4267]

Ray! We all get those days, Be grateful this is ONLY 1 TIME!

[@john_in_phoenix]

My wife did the same thing with an Accord. "The light came on yesterday", and she drove to work and got almost home the next day. Told me about it when it died at an intersection.

[@MarkVanTasell]

THIS IS THE BEST!!!! US OLD TECHS WILL AGREE (WIFE AND KIDS STANDING BEHIND YOU)AND THE WIFES CAR IS THE LAST TO GET FIXED!LOL YALL MADE MY DAY I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE.

[@REDBIRD-95]

Just watched Lauren's vid. Ray, I think you've created a monster😆😆😆😆 You should teach her how to drive the big Chevy wrecker next👍

[@MrDazvere]

My wife unit did exactly the same with her Honda CRV! The difference is I managed to get it in reverse but then the engine died and I couldn’t get it out of gear! This was on the road at the time. I had to put jump leads on it from my BMW ( battery in boot) and let it run for 20 mins to try and transfer enough electrons to get it back home. It was a complete success!

[@minotaurbison]

Be sure to check your alternator fluid regularly or this will happen again.

[@trosenvinge]

Sorry, what's alternator fluid?

[@jaykellett2327]

The kannibblin pin must have fallen out? Or maybe the fooughtney rod wore out?

[@minotaurbison]

@@trosenvinge it's a bad joke, like blinker fluid or horn oil.

[@iamasmurf1122]

@@minotaurbison some alternators do actually have oil running through them on some diesels

[@iamasmurf1122]

You are saying this as a joke however not really that funny if you did actually know some alternators do have oil running through them you will find that on some diesels

[@cameronrobinson4278]

Almost spit out my coffee when I heard you say, " had to let Lauren drive the truck and.... 'eeeeeee'!" Lol... I know that feeling, bud!!

[@KenSch2020]

The reason why it wouldn't shift into reverse is because every gear is controlled by the transmission computer and without enough power the dampers to give the transmission soft shifts does work and the pcm doesn't know what gear the your shifting the transmission into so that is probably why reverse didn't work.

[@ryans413]

My car uses the Mass Air Flow sensor to determine soft shifts I know this because my MAF died once and my car went into gear so rough it shook the entire car and scarred the hell out of me. I plugged in my scan tool and the MAF was giving no readings. I replaced the MAF and the car shifted nice and easy again.

[@KenSch2020]

@@ryans413 Yeah they put parts that shouldn't be attached to the transmission and make it part of transmission circuits so if a part fails it goes into a manual mode which makes the shift dampers not work years ago they had vacuum dampers which should be installed on newer cars in case the transmission has to go in manual mode without all the computer stuff.

[@obiesunstreak2409]

I laughed far harder than I should have at the lack of key and hearing your wife laugh. Been there, done that, I know that pain well.

[@bricegraham8256]

I done one of these without having to do as much removing. The master tech at the last shop I was at showed me the trick. What you have to do is unbolt the two braket bolts that support the A/C line. You dont have to suck out the refrigerant. Then unclip the power steering reservoir, keep the hoses on and tuck it up past that A/C line. Then remove the coolant res as you did. Remove the upper bracket and pull the alternater out. I had to do like 5 of these at the last shop and towards the last three I had a craft down at that point and was able to do them in about an hour. Cause when I first did it it took me like 3 or so. Now granted this video is quick so it seems like you got it done even faster. But thats my method and always seemed to work.

[@ScottDLR]

I can see not having enough current to activate the reverse solenoid in the trans but that's a crazy amount of work to replace an alt. BTW, watch the brake cleaner around the headlights. It will melt their protective coating and look like crap - a lesson I learned the hard way.

[@jonclark8155]

My momma has a Honda Odyssey this is a good video and information I can use. Thank you for posting this.

[@CajunShrek]

The x files thing when kid unit is passing by gets me every time 😂😂 😂

[@papatomsthoughts]

Good video. Loved seeing and hearing littles in background. Have a blessed day

[@ganzonomy]

It's not a Honda It's a Chrysler that identifies as a Honda to give off the facade of reliability 😂 Edit to add: I would have fallen on the floor laughing if wife unit said I decline all repairs, even if just to get a rise out of you.

[@jmduffee]

My 2010 Odessy did the same thing when the alternator went bad. No reverse, hard shifts, etc. Very limpy limp mode.

[@dwightelvey645]

You need to put a spring return on that door. You can get spring loaded hinges for it,

[@thedillpickle100]

When I was a kid my friend had a '72 Chevy C10 with a 350. To do just about anything to the side of the engine you gathered your tools, then step on the axel hub, swung your leg into the engine compartment and had a seat on the fender.

[@redbo1519]

Here is the perfect van issues solution….Wife Unit gets the dirty max and Ray daily drives the Big Cat…just sell the van. 😂. And dont stress about the “end of day brain fog”…it was a long day indeed. Fortunately and unfortunately, I know why and Im very thankful for all your hard work. Cant wait to see the video(s) from it.

[@gerryb6423]

Also i didnt notice Ray replace Rubber seal for the Thermostat Housing on Yesterdays Episode "Probably missed that part in the editing" Just a thought before DAA DA DAAAAR Shooop Shooooope " Nice and Shiny" LOL.

[@weazleman36]

I know it’s to late but I’ve done it before on my wife’s Honda Odyssey without removing anything else. Pain in the butt. I compared the reinstall to the price is right PLINKO game. Rolling the alt in every direction while it dropped section by section into position. Thankfully it’s a Honda and the alt does not fail frequently.

[@smartin23964]

In the next episode, Ray changes a customer's water heater by pulling up the kitchen floor. It's obviously easier than using the basement door. 😂 If it works, it's not wrong!

[@carnutal3627]

Hey don’t give Ray any ideas! 😀

[@MikhailScottKy]

Ray CRC Brakecleen REALLY needs to sponsor you!!!!! Every episode with DRAMA you use their products!!!!!!!

[@46fd04]

After your repair, the charging voltage should have been over 14V, shouldn't it?

[@ryans413]

13 to 14 yes when the cars running and a fully charged battery should read 12.5

[@itsadogslife...8825]

14.2 volts is the perfect number, however this depends on the state of charge / condition of battery. items that are "in use" at the time of the testing. therefore everything off, lights, ac, radio, then test for acurate numbers. test two; everything on, engine just above idle, say 800~1000 RPM voltage should not be lower than 13.0 Vdc. If at any time the charging voltage rises above 14.8 Vdc then the battery will suffer and probably "boil dry" also high risk of TCU's, ECU's etc overheating and or being damaged. bulbs can even start to fail prematurely. Have fun everyone.

[@itsadogslife...8825]

@@ryans413 12.5 with engine off I think you mean.

[@ryans413]

@@itsadogslife...8825 yes

[@terabyte1695]

Ray , been there with the nator, had to change overnight,i had what you didnt want, the postive power nut was loose[thought it was tight and it wound up tight, even got AA man out and he tightened it]started arcing on the thread,ending up needing new battery wiring loom, now that what happens when you rush a job, also the arcing ruined the nator, so new nator and new loom,but needs overide quality of job...,but you did a good job.

[@volvo09]

17:56 glad to see you mentioned the oil saturation. That's probably what killed it before it got closer to 200k. I had oil start leaking on my alternator and it killed it in a few thousand miles. (Highway miles, so that took like 2 months) I was surprised how quickly it happened. The car only had like 40k miles on it too.

[@hieyeque1]

Wife Honda Pilot did the exact same thing when we lost our alternator. The thing could barely shift, and when it did, it slammed in to gear....this is normal for these.

[@johnetuckerjr6775]

Nothing like the opps I got to do maintenance on your own vehicle. Excellent job.❤

[@rdxe257]

Another reason she needs to take the family's loaner 😄

[@Rag3QuitnRob3rt]

Had the alternator on my 09 Ridgeline die on me at 262k. The dealership said that I was the Honda original and was surprised that it lasted that long

[@basil30]

Eric The Car Guy has an excellent series of videos on an Odyssey

[@stephendeluca4479]

How can engineers design cars like this? You could change an alternator in 20 minutes or less on old cars. The stuff that is readily accessible on engines these days is all the stuff you have to get OUT of the way to get to the working components.

[@kenore4003]

More stuff going into less space. Engine compartments look like a refrigerator being attacked by an octopus.

[@SWEETBINKY]

Yes it is funny Ray, that you forgot to bring the key in the cabin with you when trying to start the engine. Wife Unit thought it was funny. Love watching ya Ray

[@PRO4XKEV]

The Honda Odyssey is taking you on a repair Odyssey.

[@goodtimes2654]

The Wife Unit wants a new truck. Happy wife happy life

[@oregonexpat]

Ray-„I may have lucked out with this one . . .“ (subsequent sound of falling bolt gravity. . . )😂thumbs up ❤

[@stevo4649]

thank you Ray another excellent upload,,have your self a great day too,👍👌

[@MacMcCardle]

Fun alternator story for ya - I neglected to fix a failing alternator until it died on me 5+ hours from home. Happy driving along, when all of a sudden I notice the ABS light is on, huh annoying. Something else has died on the beater. I go to roll my window up to think about why my ABS died.. and notice it's *painfully* slow... and that the extra power draw puts the airbag light on. Panic. I realise what's happened. Battery voltage is so low, the ABS module has died. Unfortunately I am on a rural road, an hour + from the nearest shop. I power everything I can off and book it to the closest parts store. That missing gear from lack of power on the honda is a familiar feeling. I could barely get my machine into gear pulling into the park at the shop, amazingly I just barely rolled in! Now, I cant get a new alternator installed as this that little store didn't have one, so in goes a new battery and still 4.5 hours from home I decide to play chicken with my box of electrons. Turns out a 3.5L Mitsubishi will run for about 4 hours on just the battery. I was just short of home but made it to a family members place, charged it up and made it home the next day. Fun times.

[@macnabit.1]

Few people can be a one arm mechanic and one arm video photographer at the same time, well doing booth jobs on a professional level.

[@bigdog7813]

I chuckle every time I hear that X Files theme when your daughter appears. Nice touch!

[@guitartec]

RAY, BEST IDEA YOU'LL HEAR ALL DAY... Install an old used winch inside your garage and pull dead cars in from the lot. Install a pulley wheel on the fork lift as an anchor point for the cable to get around turns.

[@ddognine]

I had to replace the alt on my wife's Odyssey a while ago. It dropped easily from the bottom. No need to mess with the AC comp. Although I may have had to remove the serp belt tensioner. Don't recall exactly all the steps, but it wasn't too hard.

[@itsadogslife...8825]

Well done my man. most people (and techs) haven't figured that out yet. I have taking 50% of the alternators I do out the bottom, trouble is it sometmes take 30 minutes more as I sometimes nod off......... . . . . . . .

[@135SoHc]

I keep an assortment of vinyl caps on hand to cap the ends of hoses/reservoirs/heater cores ect as things are coming apart. Saves a lot of mess from happening.

[@DavidSmith-ni7ow]

America First ❤️✝️🇺🇸

[@DavidSmith-ni7ow]

Over engineered Subaru has an electronic E brake!

[@michaelpistilli5823]

My grandson's 2009 honda accord v6 oil saturated alt failed was replaced and now the new alt is becoming oil saturated I am confirming a comment about the oil leak from the vetc spool valve housing and the tbs I am going to change the gasket for him. I am a 72 year old retired mechanic enjoy your videos

[@BenEyah]

Had to do an alternator on an 09 civic type r last week. Everybody has done a video on the normal civic and all take it out between the rad and engine, not on the type r, gotta take it through the headlight. But to get the light out you gotta take the bumper off but to get the bumper off you gotta take the arch trim off and to get the light out you gotta take the other side of the bumper off ‘cause you just can’t get the angle for the bolt holding the bracket on so it’s just one massive ball ache. Makes me appreciate my van a little more ‘cause there’s tons of room in places to do stuff

[@ourv9603]

Heres something not many people know- Ford has a 2nd alternator option available for their trucks. The 2nd alt puts out 120vac for use on a jobsite to power corded tools. Of course you have to leave your truck idling to make power but it is a real handy option in a lot of situations. !

[@davidmillhollon486]

Love your family videos Raymond yall are great to gather 👍.

[@elmerfrejoles98]

184,584 on the odo, about time to replace alternator man. Thanks for showing, now you give me some idea, how to replace my drive belt, loose the tension and remove/replace belt.

[@bertblue9683]

The fozzi bear / Yoda hybrid "clever I am" really had me laughing. Especially followed directly by the fail. Fun to watch

[@robertheinkel6225]

Looks like it needs an oil change also. The warning light comes on at 15%, and yours was reading 10%. So the light has been on for about 400 miles.

[@crashoverride328]

Rotary electron replenishment unit replacement accomplished, the screw driving unit was next to the Iludium Q36 explosive space modulator.

[@arkiefyler]

Tip: Don't forget the key. 👍 Another tip: Don't forget to UN-Click your seat belt before exiting the car unit. Also 👍!!!

[@meganpaull6140]

Ray to the rescue to fix the Honda, he will work his magic

[@rayshutsa6690]

Love the way you are bringing your daughter into the video the graphics are fantastic. It is great when you have the tools and shop to fix your own vehicle's.

[@MrGbutter]

You guys make a good comedy team.

[@brucegarrett7232]

Ray you ain't alone . My wife has done the same thing. But she went 3 days. Then called me on the side of the road broke down. Once started the battery light was on I asked for how long " only about 3 days nothing happened so I continued to drive"😭😭 Love the X-Files referal.

[@AllanO808]

Keep cool Ray, more haste = less speed.

[@Wakeupandsniffthecoffee]

I think by telling the Wife Unit to use your Silverado, you may have opened a new can of worms. She is never gonna be happy driving the van after a taste of driving the truck. Maybe it's time to take her shopping for a suburban or Tahoe or Escalade to give her that big machine feeling and to safely transport your family about. Of course gas is a new issue when moving up, but the comfort of knowing your wife unit and child units and dog unit are safe during their travels is priceless. Plus it will make for a better family traveling experience.

[@victorjudice7344]

Ray, low voltage can play havoc every time.check the alternator and the battery. My battery was 6 months old and it had a bad battery.

[@4englishlies875]

Loved oh the keys, need the keys. Got a good laugh out of it reminds me of the time I did the same thing but different repair.

[@Cesar.Haddad]

Hey buddy... good video good job... you just forgot the coolant reservoir clip

[@tee2171]

On TLs with the same engine, it's much easier taking out the alternator. 30min tops and no AC disconnecting. Those minivans are a pain due to tight spaces

[@woodstk70]

Ray struggling at the end of the day and Wife Unit laughing in the background...... Way too funny. Keep up the great videos Ray and we are laughing with you, not at you. Have a great day.

[@tomdixon1213]

You were like a fisherman landing a big fish and bringing it up onto your boat with that alternator.

[@saablazer]

One Oddy owner to another. The leak that killed the alternator is most likely from the VVT solenoid gaskets, not the valve cover.

[@beezlebub3955]

Haha when I saw the thumbnail I thought, Mrs. O’s van is taking a dump 😂

[@domfer2540]

Just a note: vehicle accidents due to faulty equipment is less than 1%. It is always a good idea to have good times, as in Florida you never know when it is going to rain.

[@iceman9549]

I absolutely love this channel 👍👍 I also love the projects. When you’re all done with a project like that it gives you such a sense of gratification and you can tell warren takes pride in his work !!!! Keep them coming buddy. I appreciate you taking time to record and edit. THANKS

[@marksecker1596]

Looking after your family👍

[@andyrbush]

I have got to stop wiggling my head around trying to see past the cables and obstacles in the way. I know it's a flat two dimensional screen but old habits override the conscious brain. Yep done a lot of work on cars and stuff. Often working by feel. I really enjoy your vlogs.

[@garyinman5400]

my surprise was that it went into any gear. I first had this issue twenty plus years ago with the first electronic shifting vehicle I ever drove an International bucket truck belonging to my employer.