EMERGENCY EVACUATION and DISOBEYING Passengers! Explained by CAPTAIN JOE

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0:00 Intro
0:37 Birdstrike,
02:26 Fire on Engine 2
04:00 Airbus hydraulic system
04:25 Broken Fan Blade
04:47 ECAM Engine 2 Fire Checklist
06:37 Emergency Evacuation Checklist
08:30 Firebrigade
09:23 Possible cause for burning engine
09:40 Disobedient passengers
11:33 Outro
Emergency Briefings
As part of their pre-departure duties, the Cabin Crew will provide a Safety Briefing to passengers which will include the emergency evacuation of the aircraft. This briefing will refer passengers to their individual Safety Briefing Cards but will always include pointing out exit locations and floor path lighting for particular use in poor visibility. The briefing will advise on the availability of evacuation slides at exits and may give instructions on how to open exits. Passengers seated in emergency exit rows at overwing exits where no cabin crew are located may be individually briefed on how to open these in the event of an emergency. If an airborne emergency occurs which makes an evacuation on landing likely, then the Cabin Crew will provide more detailed instructions if the time available permits.
The results of evacuation trials have shown that the opening of emergency doors by passengers was proven to be more successful when the passengers were familiarized with the instructions provided in the safety cards, or when a personal briefing was provided by a cabin crewmember.
Emergency Exits
Depending upon the aircraft, emergency exits can include normal boarding and service doors, overwing exits, and tailcone exits within the passenger cabin; and cockpit windows or hatches on the flight deck and in freight bays. These may be equipped with boarding stairs, evacuation slides or emergency egress ropes. For a more complete description of exit types, refer to section 7.2 of the Royal Aeronautical Society (RAeS) paper Emergency Evacuation of Commercial Passenger Aeroplanes.
Cabin Crew Duties
Evacuation is normally ordered by the Captain. However, if communication with the flight crew is not possible and the situation in the cabin is judged by the senior cabin crew member to be incompatible with any delay, then they are trained to make the evacuation order themselves once the aircraft has come to a complete stop. In these circumstances, they are responsible for assessing immediate danger such as external fire or engines still running before any exit is opened. Cabin crew supervising exits must also secure the exit until the slide (if the exit is so equipped) inflates and block the exit from use in the event of a slide malfunction. They are also expected to motivate passengers using appropriate shouted commands and if necessary, physical action, to exit quickly and to leave behind personal possessions, especially items in overhead lockers or under seats. Normally, the Cabin Crew will be the last to leave their exit; however, in practice they are trained to remain on board only to the point when they believe that by staying any longer they are putting their own lives at risk. Once they are out of the aircraft, they are trained to assist in moving passengers away from the aircraft to a position where they can be safely grouped together. (Info by Skybrary)
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[@VASAviation]

Awesome analysis as always!!

[@Zuudo]

enjoyed the collaboration!

[@HenryYang-2623]

Nice analysis Joe. Good job VAS # ATC King

[@Youdontwannaknow..]

Here before he ❤️ you

[@ATIMELINEOFAVIATION]

100th like

[@flywithcaptainjoe]

It wouldn't have been without your great input! Thanks Victor! Let's do that again sometime :)

[@bkembley]

It's tragically sad and disheartening to know that the most difficult part of surviving an airplane crash is navigating the stupidity of selfish idiots during evacuation.

[@kenmore01]

You had to know that was the case, though.

[@abikeanditsboy3449]

That evacuation is exactly what I expect from the most narcissistic, self-center society we've become.

[@mccormick9910]

@@abikeanditsboy3449 every man for himself, righttttt? -every spirit airways passenger

[@subduedpotato7216]

It is incredibly easy to just label people 'idiots", or "stupid" or some such adjective. What's not so easy is thinking about ways to explain their irrational behaviour. We have the benefit of hindsight. Here's an alternative to calling them selfish, narcissistic idiots. We've all been trained on how to disembark an aircraft: 1. remain seated until the aircraft has come to a complete stop 2. retrieve all personal items 3. with personal items retrieved, walk off aircraft using exit that has been designated. This is the way we have all been trained to exit an aircraft. This is normal. There is absolutely nothing normal about an emergency evacuation. Its high stress, with passengers screaming and panicking, crew members shouting instructions. It is incredibly high stress and confusing. Under these conditions most people don't actually hear what's being said around them. They "shut down" as a mental defense against the onslaught of a rapidly changing situation. Most people cannot cope with a truly emergent situation if they've never experienced anything similar. Passengers are not trained to evacuate an aircraft in an emergency. Sure, there's the safety briefing at the beginning but that isn't proper training. In order to properly deal with high stress emergencies, one has to be trained to complete tasks while in a high stress environment. The vast majority of the population has rarely even been involved in a true emergency, let alone been properly trained in what to do. Without that emergency training - emergency preparedness - people will revert to what they already know....their "muscle memory" for a lack of a better term. In terms of leaving an aircraft, what people know is: 1. remain seated until the aircraft has come to a complete stop - CHECK! 2. retrieve all personal items - CHECK! 3. with personal items retrieved, walk off aircraft using exit that has been designated. - CHECK! It isn't because they are stupid people, its because their fight or flight mechanism, their 'primitive brain', has been activated and they don't have the experience to override it. You might point out that a couple of passengers had the wherewithal to take out their phones and start recording. I reiterate my point that, by and large, people will revert to what they know in an emergency. Those passengers likely (if the list of CaptainJoe's credits include the passengers) regularly post videos to social media. What they know is: When in doubt, record it for posterity.

[@ShaddowDemon]

@@subduedpotato7216 I highly doubt that. When people's fight or flight kicks in, and the only choice is to flee, it is not natural for them to stop and pick up big bulky objects. I think the problem here is that the people don't understand the danger that they were in. No smoke in the cabin, so they go "oh, it must be fine".

[@psychostick555]

Seeing the passengers stop to take their luggage makes me feel an immeasurable amount of rage.

[@Tautusian]

Not just you. If I were stuck behind someone trying to get their luggage, I would knock them out in a heart-beat and leave them to be trampled and burned. That may not be nice, but someone as stupid and egocentric and useless under pressure like that doesn't really have a case of deserving any better - nevermind me actually protecting the life's of anyone held back like that. In a way, it's my obligation to do that. Soo.... Why the **** aren't those compartments locked?

[@MxWintersAFOL]

There's a simple solution for that...throw the dambass bastards into the burning engine. The engine is a right-off away so I doubt the airline or pilots would care. The birds get a free meal and we get rid of idiots like that.

[@scottread]

Maybe see a therapist.

[@MxWintersAFOL]

@@scottread I tried that, they said there was nothing they could do 🤣 Words are just that, words but those people could in some cases could cause the death of other people, that I think needs far greater therapy than I do.

[@FlyLeah]

@@scottread nothing wrong with taking out one that may take out 20 or morr others with him because of his egoism

[@vqey2]

As a member of cabin crew , I can’t tell you how many times customers don’t listen to our instructions Safety is our biggest priority

[@southwestxnorthwest]

I actually commented on this issue before reading your comment. It amazes me how many people ignore the cabin crew at the beginning of the flight before taxiing to the runway; everyone puts their heads down and headphones on and pays no attention to the safety briefing. The FAA should require all electronic devices be powered off while the safety briefing is being conducted so this does not continue to happen.

[@jtwu8931]

Because you are flight attendants and no more juice or peanuts to pass out

[@pagansmc13]

Then they'll just read the newspaper or the magazines shit for brains… And I suspect that probably 97% of all passengers on all flights have heard that safety briefing at least 10 times… I suspect north of 50% of passengers on all flights could give the safety briefing...

[@DavidS-iw4ei]

Nope, I always pull out the safety card and follow along. The flight crew will see that I'm following along and they will (not always) reward good behavior.

[@chrisdee9620]

Your 100% correct! People PLEASE LISTEN to the cabin crews EVERY instruct as it makes it easy for them and us in EMS-FDNY! Time is of the essence in during ANY emergency!

[@Tsavtech]

As a flight attendant, I'm not scared of an engine fire, or even an emergency evacuation. What terrifies me is when everyone disregards instructions and gets up, grab their bags and cause panic by yelling FIRE at the top of their lungs causing everyone else to panic. We are meant to evacuate approx 186 pax within 90s of the evacuation call so for the love of god DO NOT grab your bags and if you get told to remain seated please do so unlike the people on this plane.

[@johnstreet819]

There is nothing in my carry on worth my life. There is damn sure nothing in your carry on worth my life!

[@Nattaferg]

Former Purser here. I agree 100%. It is NOT easy to evacuate an A320 or even an larger aircraft in under 90 secs esp. when selfish fools are stopping to open overhead bins as if it is a normal landing.

[@mwbgaming28]

If the airline was required to replace destroyed items in a timely manner, people would be less likely to bring their bags with them Not sure about you, but I don't have $3500 burning a hole in my pocket to replace my laptop if i leave it on a burning plane, and the airline states in their conditions of carriage that they won't replace anything if it is damaged or destroyed due to a crash landing So unless you're there with cash for me to buy a new one, I'm bringing it with me regardless of what you say

[@martinbrink6711]

@@mwbgaming28Be sure to let everyone know what plane you're flying on so we're not stuck in the same tube with a selfish hole like yourself. Same to the tool that upvoted that comment. If you don't have $3500 to replace your equipment, get insurance like everyone else and stop pushing your problems off on others.

[@bigbubba0439]

Yeah, a lot of people died in an Ethiopian Airlines flight that had to land on the water because they disobeyed the pilot's instructions. He told the passengers to put on their life vests, but to not inflate them. Many people survived the crash but died because they had inflated their life vests and got trapped under the plane when it started to sink.

[@reiner5593]

The passengers taking their luggage should all be banned from ever flying with any airline. they're behavior of blocking the aisle could've ended up killing people at the back like aeroflot 1492.

[@rickyreynolds17]

Was just about to write the same!! Banned for life. Idiots

[@EVAUnit4A]

1) In an emergency- I don't care how well-informed a person is- it's still possible to go blank in the heat of the moment (no pun intended) _even if_ you were given emergency instructions just minutes earlier. 2) Frequent fliers have heard those safety notices so many times that they've learned how to block them out like spam or ads (see passenger with headphones). It's impossible to DEMAND people pay attention _even if_ it's for their own safety in an emergency. 3) Most people are just stupid and/or selfish- they don't pay attention to their surroundings, or consider others. ....And to some degree, I don't care _how_ selfLESS or aware you are, there's a degree of self-preservation in all of us that can override those safety and emergency instructions. That's _not_ to say I agree with people reaching for overhead bins or texting during an evacuation, merely that it is to be expected- this certainly isn't the first evacuation video I've seen where cell phones were in use and/or overhead bins were being reached for.

[@EvilSmonker]

@@EVAUnit4A Exactly, you can't expect the passengers to make a calm reasonable decision under the potential stress applied to them especially considering they are not trained or expected to be in such circumstances. It's entirely the airlines responsibility to keep even their most rediculous pasanger safe; it's why the industry is so safe.

[@geminischweiz]

@@EvilSmonker then the industry should make a calm decision and blow them to mars

[@EVAUnit4A]

@@EvilSmonker _That being said,_ if someone reaches for their overhead bin, and I'm on the flight with them, I will shove them the FUCK! out of my way and then literally crawl over their whining ass to get out.

[@benconnolly4258]

It is awful that people have sadly lost their lives in similar emergency evacuations cause of selfish people deciding to retrieve their bags from the overhead lockers 🙄🙄🙄 There are ONLY 2 things you need to do in an emergency evacuation. 1 release seatbelt and 2 GET-OUT!

[@Rockethead293]

and if you're in a sea emergency three things 1 release seatbelt 2 get life vest and put on 3 GET OUT

[@BigTylt]

@@Rockethead293 Leave it to someone to put their life vest on and *inflate* it before they get out.

[@Rockethead293]

@@BigTylt right. Just trust they listened to the safety briefing

[@o0OeftichisO0o]

no i will also need to take my laptop. All my work is on it.

[@Rockethead293]

@@o0OeftichisO0o Back it up then

[@ACFan3347]

I can pretty much guarantee that if the overhead bins are fitted with locks, the isle will still be blocked with people trying to force those bins open. I'm a traindriver, we're also taught evacuation procedures. Same thing occurs: people want to take all of their suitcases with them, simply don't listen (who the f**k are you to tell me what to do) and a majority will simply not hear you because of the headphones. Great video Joe.

[@mwbgaming28]

It's about accountability, the airlines have written their contracts in such a way that they don't need to replace any lost or damaged luggage, or any personal effects that are damaged as a result of an accident, and because of that, people (myself included) think 1: I can spend 10 seconds grabbing my shit now before I get off the plane 2: I can spend 2 years in court and thousands of dollars in lawyer's fees trying to get the airline to replace my shit, which likely won't work and I'll have to pay to replace everything out of my own pocket (then proceed to calculate how many hours of overtime i have to spend at work to replace said stuff) Option 1 will win every time But if the airlines were forced to replace any lost, damaged, or destroyed items (within 24h) and pay compensation for lost data on electronic devices, people would be far less likely to grab their shit before evacuating the aircraft

[@electro46475]

​@@mwbgaming28 Option 3: Spent your lifetime thinking people burning, screaming and dying behind you because you were afraid of a loosing a camera or a laptop. Seriously....go for a brain check.

[@TheAkashicTraveller]

No one can here you on a train even without the headphones. Unless the PA has an emergency volume anyway. Those things are so quiet I have to get out my phone and try to guess where my stop is using GPS.

[@mwbgaming28]

@@electro46475 are you going to hand over the $3500 to replace my laptop if I leave it to get destroyed? If not then shut the fuck up

[@ibimssss]

@@mwbgaming28 thats the risk you take when you fly somewhere. If you lose $3500 because you didnt buy insurance and put it in your hand luggage its your fault

[@lachlantichbon3985]

“Are we taking our bags or…?” Hmm it’s almost like there is a safety presentation for that kind of stuff.

[@martintheiss4038]

Every carrier has it. You must leave high heeled shoes and personal luggage in the bins once the cabin crew orders the evacuation.

[@lachlantichbon3985]

@@martintheiss4038 yeah I know these people obv didn’t listen

[@planespotter2011ify]

You just heard from the Missing Link !!!!!

[@alexandermoore5541]

Working as a ramp agent, I was once tasked with removing the carry on from an E145 (50 pax) that slid off the runway and punctured a fuel tank. This was after the fire crew and mechanics and the safety board cleared us to do so of course. I was surprised to see every overhead bin open and, for a full flight, we only found about 15 personal items left behind. I couldn't believe it.

[@martintheiss4038]

That is scary.

[@ntvonline9480]

Not surprised… sad

[@flywithcaptainjoe]

Fist hand experience! Thanks for sharing!

[@Paul_VanGo]

@@flywithcaptainjoe *first

[@vk2ig]

@@Paul_VanGo The Fist is strong in this one ...

[@davidooi7298]

Even when angry, Captain Joe manages to keep his composure. Hats of to you man! This is proof that some people never listen to pre-flight briefings, which is disgraceful

[@ARFFWorld]

That must be very frustrating to the flight attendants and pilots for sure

[@hughofIreland]

Great video. I was in an evacuation four years ago: UAL 1579 at Newark (EWR) Liberty. It was a B752, so higher up by a few feet than an A320. One thing you can’t prepare for is the speed that you move down the slide. You hit the ground with an almighty thud and if it’s concrete or asphalt, you will get some bruising. About one quarter to a third of passengers grabbed bags and took them down the slides. Some added 20-30 pounds to their body weight: that can really hurt. Only a few people sustained injuries; they probably would have been all right if they hadn’t tried to carry a bag. Also, once the fire service arrived, the police were there too. I was told that the police stayed with the plane on the taxiway and when it was towed back to the terminal. About three hours after the incident, the police escorted people in small groups onto the aircraft to recover belongings. If my experience is typical of an evacuation, personal items on an evacuated aircraft are probably much safer than a regular flight.

[@tf51d]

Any passenger caught taking their luggage in an Emergency like this when instructed not too, should be prosecuted and charged with Reckless Endangerment!

[@crazypete3759]

they need to start fining these idiot passengers and banning them from flying on any airline. In all honesty if I am evacuating a plane in an emergency and some idiot is blocking my way trying to grab their luggage I will knock them the fuck out and toss them out of the way. They can burn in the plane for all I care. Sorry, not sorry. your gucci jeans and your laptop are not worth my life. If you make it into a you vs me, I will kill you to save me.

[@trvman1]

Won't happen until someone is killed. It's been going on for a LONG time and nothing has been done about it and why people take their luggage. Not util they are arrested and have to pay a $10,000 fine or more and a NO FLY list for ALL airlines and MAYBE they will think twice. When they say they can't pay the fine, then put them in jail for 30 days on top of that.

[@michaelbujaki2462]

@@crazypete3759 Hey, and bonus points if they're not in their home country when they make the list. Now they have to go by ground to get home, or if they're really unlucky they'll have to learn to live on a new continent.

[@crazypete3759]

@@michaelbujaki2462 it would be such sweet justice to watch one of these people get told they have to spend a week traveling by bus to get to the coast to board a cargo ship and spend the next 30 - 45 days crossing the ocean to get back home.

[@jesuseduardo5658]

I'm agree

[@facundocorradini]

I'll never understand people trying to get their stuff in an emergency evacuation. You're literally sitting over a huge fuel deposit that can lit up any second. What the hell do you have in your purse that's more important than your life??? Get off the plane, ffs. If the fire brigade secures the plane, you can have your stuff back later.

[@asdfhun]

But what if you lose your holiday photos? That's more important than your and other's lifes... Getting a new passport because it might could burn in the plane? What a pain in the ass, it's in my bag, so it's coming wth me.

[@ysfsim]

@@asdfhun you always keep important stuff on your person

[@williamhuang8309]

@@asdfhun hahaha, sarcasm.

[@hubertheiser]

@@asdfhun Yeah, that's the reasoning of these idiots.

[@flywithcaptainjoe]

Very true Sir!

[@busterhymen8117]

I remember watching an airplane safety study, done in England, years ago. They took a Boeing 737 body and put in 95 volunteers, giving them the normal instructions for a plane evacuation. Smoke was put in the cabin to signal when to start evacuating. The test was run three times with each result showing lower times for full evacuation, with the first run taking 97 seconds from start to the finish. For the fourth run, right before the test was started, the tester announced the first ten people off the plane would receive a $500 bonus, and the test was started. In 5 minutes, a total of three people made it out! The rather large man, who had held the crowd back for the gentleman who removed the emergency door in the first three attempts, picked up the doorman AND the emergency door, throwing both over the seats in front of them. He and the man behind him made it out before four people jammed the exit trying to leave at the same time. The crowd pressure from behind made it impossible to clear the exit. The last person was a small women, of the original four blockers, who was shoved out after about two minutes. The study concluded the last test was probably the most accurate rendition of an actual emergency.

[@RooseveltGuilherme]

Very interesting findings. Thanks for sharing

[@michaelomalley592]

That does make sense - people react differently in a fight or flight response scenario which makes them unpredictable. Some like myself have the ability to remain level headed during an emergency where calm and quick thinking are required whereas others may panic (a natural and normal response) as they’ve gone into full on self-preservation mode.

[@chrisb9143]

@@michaelomalley592 I panick when there is no evident threat, and remanin calm during emergencies

[@doom9603]

@@chrisb9143 this describes me lmafo

[@bluefluke7585]

Agreed. The biggest danger is always the passengers.

[@TheGibusDemo]

Me: *Sees someone taking their bags* “ah well my good fellow, you’ve earned a backhand to the face!”

[@zsoltsz2323]

That's why I always have my phone, passport and credit cards in my pocket during takeoff and landing. Way easier to leave you socks and sun lotion behind.

[@davidbeckenbaugh9598]

I add medicine and medical devices that cannot be quickly replaced. For me, that is a wallet sized insulin pack (including syringes) and my CGM (Continuous Glucose Monitor). My cell phone was already packed into a pocket and switched OFF. Guess I will not be recording the jackasses carrying there 50 lb rolling suitcases off the airplane.

[@oldmanc2]

I always keep my shoes on and laced after EK521 when the most severe injuries to passengers were from burns on their feet from the 60C+ tarmac

[@Petra44YT]

The first reasonable comment I've seen here!

[@HeidiKohne]

I have one of those bungee "cards" that I've attached to a lanyard. After I get seated and while the rest of the plane is boarding, I'm putting my wallet, chapstick, earbuds, and phone amongst the bungee straps (often my lotion as well). I have it next to me in the seat during takeoff and landing, and then have easy access to that stuff during the flight. If we have to evacuate, it takes about 5 seconds to put the lanyard over my head and I've got essentials with me.

[@crazyt1483]

I normally have a drawstring bag of stuff I would normally want on the plane and important non quick access / difficult to replace items which is normally stored by my feet. Quick access items are in a man bag which I normally wear

[@peterkozma8855]

My “biggest problem” with these videos is that people who watch it are those that are intrested in aviation and not that dummies who care about their luggages :(

[@NicolaW72]

Yes, unfortunately you´re right.

[@moiraatkinson]

That’s true, which is why the cabin crew, rather than telling us how to fasten a seatbelt which behaves like seatbelts everywhere, need to start emphasising the fact that nothing must be taken from overhead lockers because these people are putting other occupants of the plane at an increased risk of death if an evacuation is necessary and anyone carrying baggage will be held back and evacuated last!

[@VanillaLibrarian]

@@moiraatkinson Uh, I disagree on sacrificing the seat belt information. The way they're undone doesn't even come close to the seat belt of a car, and people getting stuck in their seat is still worse than this mess.

[@flywithcaptainjoe]

Couldn't agree more!

[@moiraatkinson]

@@VanillaLibrarian sorry, that comment was a bit flippant. Yes they need to keep the seat belt information in.

[@MrMali22]

Hey Captain Joe, I have decided I want to become a pilot and your videos help. There are a few I've been learning from on here and you're one of my newest additions. Thank you so much for your breakdown of the situation and your cool and calm demeanor. I love it.

[@AirmetSierra]

A couple years ago I was on a flight with a medical emergency. As we were taxing to the gate the pilot reminded everyone over the PA multiple times to stay seated so the emergency passenger could get off first. So of course as soon as the plane came to a stop everyone immediately stood up and started blocking the aisles.

[@enoughofyourkoicarp]

"Finally, we get to fight a fire! It's about time!" - Those fire fighters probably.

[@daveroche6522]

One of my brothers is a firefighter at the airport here - they practice, practice and practice. All under authentic conditions (fuselage on fire, full kit (including smoke masks), life-size mannequins (all extremely bulky and heavy) at unknown locations, smoke everywhere, heat everywhere, time limit). No, they don't want to have to fight an actual fire - it's not fun and it's not a game, but they sure prepare and train for one.

[@captainconway2236]

Jobtown?! JOBTOWN!!

[@jonnyb2774]

When flying I always ensure I have my phone, wallet and passport in my jean/shorts pockets during takeoff so that if we have to bug out, I just go and I have everything I could need to sort myself out over the next hours. It’s just sensible precautionary planning.

[@Noone-jn3jp]

This is my paranoid butt everywhere, always

[@alexday5892]

While so many, and I pretty much mean all of us, can’t fly it’s great to learn so much about the thing we used to take for granted. I love your delivery. So informative and not too difficult to keep even the likes of me up to speed. Stay safe Joe and all those watching

[@TerryMundy]

In 1981 I was on a Chinook helicopter from Barbers Point Oahu to Pohakuloa Training Area on Big Island. A warning light indicated there was metal detected in the transmission. The pilot made the decision to make an emergency landing on Lanai. After we landed and the step was lowered we got up and headed to the exit door. I was second after a fellow soldier. He had to pause to get his boom box before getting off. We were all screaming at him to leave it. He bee-bopped down the steps as if there wasn’t an emergency. When he got on the ground all of us behind him flew around him like falcons passing a snail. We got to the line away from the helicopter and laid down. I remember looking up and saw him bee-bopping towards us with his boom box on his shoulder casually coming towards us. Even the crew chief and pilots ran around him to join us until the blades came to a full stop. If I were any part of his leadership I would have had him drug tested and court martialed. That could have gotten a lot of people injured. Why? Because of a boom box!

[@Wonkabar007]

Those passengers taking their luggage, wouldn't last five minutes in the Squid Game 😁

[@koneeche]

I'd give them a minute.

[@pauljr4706]

They'll be dead in the minivan!

[@flywithcaptainjoe]

Funny comment :)

[@TS-cs2pe]

They’d be dead by the slap of ttakji guy.

[@monkeyx17]

squid game is so over rated

[@homagetogorto]

I also watch a lot of farming videos on KZbin. The slides should come with a sorting gate: if you take luggage you get sorted into one pen and are charged with endangering your fellow passengers. If you have no luggage you're free to go.

[@pesite4548]

Jajajajaja

[@e1123581321345589144]

you don't need a sorting slide for that sort of thing, not when everyone's filming the event and posting online, there's plenty of evidence to incriminate.

[@gavinhackland8440]

In farming, bad stock is culled to keep negative traits of of the gene pool. Just sayin.

[@sabeillard]

@@gavinhackland8440 True!!! 😆👍

[@barbatloosenutproductions2027]

I agree %100! Nobody's luggage is worth other's safety and life! They should be fined and/or banned from using that airline!🤬

[@WingZeroType]

Fantastic video! Excellent runthrough of the procedures and I also loved how you spliced together various other footage of the incident!

[@hanssamson5436]

Thank you for this, when I travel with my mum, I always book the seats near the emergency exit incase! My advice is to the passengers you should book the seats near the exit door incase someone opens the overhead bin just for their important stuffs just to be disgraced!

[@daveking77]

Love the idea of automatic locks, also helpful during normal disembarking

[@marcocasati6953]

not sure, people may lose even more time trying to force the overheads open. maybe a massive fine and a permanent spot on the no-fly list would be more effective. A simple announcement as part of the safety briefing: "in case of an emergency evacuation leave all items behind, passengers found in possession of carry-on items will be fines $10,000 and their privilege to purchase air travel will be permanently revoked.

[@mumblic]

@@marcocasati6953 If it's common knowledge, people would not loose time. they do it now because they can!

[@celderian]

@@marcocasati6953 Panicked people won't be thinking about fines and punishment. Locking the bins and a swift kick to the ass if they try to force them open should suffice.

[@mrslcom]

This will cause a fight and further delay the evacuation process. Locking the luggage compartments is not a smart solution.

[@vk2ig]

@@celderian Connecting 10,000V (from a low current-capacity source) to the bin handles would also help. After all, that's how farmers move stubborn cattle - with an electric prod. People can make a choice: think and act like cattle, or just get off the plane.

[@yesnt768]

The cantina band inclusion was so fitting

[@kristopherloviska9042]

Yakety Sax would be more appropriate.

[@TheKurtsPlaceChannel]

Very nicely put together video and very entertaining as well Joe. Thanks for posting this.

[@av8ntexn]

Joe! Love your videos and your thorough explanations!

[@ronik24]

Traveling tipp: keep all essential valuables on your body (I found a quite convenient purse that you can strap around your side over one shoulder under the other arm which also is comfortable in warmer weather and safer from pickpockets than purses around your neck). As a photographer, I keep a backup drive of all the pictures from the trip on my body, too. Also, wear a jacket, it is usually quite cold in the cabin anyway. It offers more pockets and you don't get too cold outside in case of an evacuation. Easily done, and everything else can and will be replaced by insurance.

[@johnny_eth]

I carry my bag under the seat in front. In case of emergency, I just take keys, cards and passport out.

[@WolfgangMahringer]

@ronik24: Do you have a link to that purse you described?

[@vk2ig]

That requires some thought and planning ... which is probably beyond the average 21st century air traveller.

[@CollaredDom]

@@vk2ig Nailed it.

[@RaymondHng]

As a videographer, I upload my files at the end of each day of the event(s) from where I am to Internet online storage or directly to my desktop computer or network attached storage back at home.

[@pauljr4706]

That's why I'm willing to pay extra to be seated in the emergency exit row! No way I will be stuck behind Karen and Kevin carrying all their precious possessions!

[@jo2ed]

Yup, right there with you. I pay for emergency exit, if not I get the isle seat damn close to it.

[@worstuserever]

Never paid extra for it, but many occasions asked very nicely by flight crew if I'd be okay taking the exit seat and potentially required to release the door for evacuation. Perhaps they see this as an imposition, but I think masses of legroom and first off in an emergency? Gimme! 😁

[@tsuchan]

@@worstuserever More leg-room, but less arse-room because the tables are in the arm-rests, which - as a result - also can't be raised on such rows. If necessary, I would pay *not* to be in an emergency exit row.

[@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi]

Me too every time i get asked, and sinfe i have experience now i say yes and i know how to open it as well. Thankyou.

[@Fackeldackel]

Beat them and shove them towards and out of the door if necessary. Plane on fire? I wouldn't give a damn about breaking Karens or Kevins nose if it saves lifes (including theirs).

[@pandaroll2323]

A timely video Joe, not just the incident, but also as travel is increasing again post-covid it's a reminder to passengers of how responsible behaviour is so important. I didn't know that there are engine fire extinguishers, so that was reassuring to learn. The videos of the passengers evacuating made me wonder why the overhead bins are not just locked, and then you answered my very question - I think that's an excellent idea! Who would ever want to be that person who held up other human beings from evacuating an aircraft, or ripping open the slide with their baggage hardware, only to see others still on the aircraft unable to get off! Excellent content as always Cpt. Joe! 👨‍✈️

[@davecroft5197]

I was a night club doorman many years back... and we had a fire break out in the building above and the fire was progressing - i was getting chilling updates in my radio ear piece.... houselights up and DJ had announced the emergency repeatedly - 3 girls were more interested in finishing their wine and tried to enter into a "How rude and how dare you not say please [yah de yah de yah]" and became confrontational when i tried to grab one of their elbows to lead them out the fire exit. If it wasn't for my female supervisor who affectively grabbed their hair they would not have moved. It really makes my blood boil that there's a 'no-win-no-fee' culture... with the expectation that EVERYONE else must look after your health and safety - but when you doing that very thing people just become rude and stupid.... The debrief led by the University's head of health and safety (it was a student union owned night club) was "in future let them fry". chilling state of affairs nowadays

[@Wild_Bill57]

The locking overhead compartments was the first thought that came to my mind, but I like the idea of charging people with endangerment, not following a lawful order (there is a FAA rule about that) and a healthy fine seems appropriate

[@moiraatkinson]

It may seem appropriate, but trying to look for people who qualify to be charged or fined would be no easy task and could slow down the business of getting out of the plane. Then you’d have to match them with names and seat numbers. In a serious evacuation where not everyone makes it, I just don’t see it being practical.

[@Wild_Bill57]

If they can identify people , who stormed Congress, the can identify people with carryons in their hands.

[@vk2ig]

@@moiraatkinson Anyone standing around holding onto baggage after evacuating the aircraft is an obvious culprit. Got them bang to rights then.

[@petertwinn786]

I was thinking a bullet through the empty skull they clearly have would be a more appropriate consequence.

[@moiraatkinson]

@@vk2ig would you though? I often have a small handbag I wear over both shoulders (if you get what I mean!). It doesn’t tie up any hands and like keeping a coat on, more time would be lost taking of off than evacuating with it on.

[@Speedy_Cockroach]

Not quite according to the book actually. The rear cabin crew got a bit too ahead of themselves and clearly initiated the evacuation under their own volition. Door 2L was opened as engine 1 was still running, look at the slide being blown in the jet blast. Very dangerous situation the cabin crew caused there. Thank god no one jumped when they opened the door.

[@SoloRenegade]

good point

[@zeebeezoey]

perhaps it was opened by a passenger who panicked upon seeing the engine fire and ran to the door.

[@ljwithnok2615]

Cabin crew are instructed to open the door if they think the plane is under eminent threat. I don't believe that they were in immediate danger but I wasn't there.

[@harrier331]

@@zeebeezoey Highly doubt it, the vast majority wouldn't know how to operate the door at all.

[@alaric_]

@@harrier331 It only needs one... :D But seriously, as per the regulations, the door is designed to be opened easily with red large printed instructions on the door. For example A321 has 2 steps, "Pull cover" and "Lift lever to open". Not hard at all and it's by design. You wouldn't want people solving puzzles during an emergency and absolutely must if the flight attendents are incapacitated and passengers have to operate the door themselves. Usually there is crew present to prevent passengers opening the door while taxing or similar and during flight that is impossible because the pressure difference so there is no reason to make it more difficult than it needs. In short, it is plausible and i hope this mistake was done by a passenger and not by a trained crew member. But until someone gets their hands on the accident report, we can only speculate and guess..

[@boomerborks8307]

You got a new subscriber! Keep making awsome aviation vids mate!!

[@elisegramfort5779]

Dear Joe, Thanks so much for all the instructive videos you've done already and the content you share with us :) Would it be possible do one video related to the electrical circuit within an aircraft and its relating components? (DC/AC gen, CSD/IDG, shunt generator etc.) That would be really helpful and interesting (ATPL going-on down here...). You have already helped me A LOT understanding many aspects of the theory, on my way of becoming an airline pilot. Thanks a lot in advance, and wish you the best, Cheers, Elise

[@nadineblachetta3202]

Locked Overhead comparmtents would also help keeping them closed in a hard landing or Crash, so why not 🤷

[@NicolaW72]

Indeed.

[@CT-tp6bd]

Because idiots would still stay and try to open them after being told that they’re locked until gear up, potentially creating an even longer evacuation.

[@sirBrouwer]

Or they just remove the overhead compartments.

[@roreuqnoc]

Also, its just more added weight on the plane because of a simple request of human beings to behave like human beings.

[@moiraatkinson]

I think overhead cabin auto locking devices wouldn’t add that much weight and that could be deducted from allowed cabin bag weight in any case. I also think the pre-flight safety video could start really emphasising the point. I might be tempted to grab a handbag already under my seat, but that would depend, on circumstances. If I saw anyone opening the overhead lockers I’d remonstrate with them and shove them angrily aside to push past. It’s not as though you can’t get the luggage later! Think of the Captain who has to leave last.

[@francissager3133]

I drive a tour bus, and I admire the professionalism of the flight and cabin crew in this scenario. On my bus, as the only crew member on board in nearly all instances, my biggest fear is how my passengers respond in an emergency. Thank you for another excellent video Capt. Joe!

[@Soundbrigade]

Yay! Another pilot help me increase my fear of flying .... Really all these videos contains so much info that takes a lot of anxiety off flying. 👍

[@MrSandyBridge]

As a former cabin crew I can say this was very insightful to watch. Thank you!

[@darkwinter6028]

Keep your wallet, phone, a small quantity of essential medications (insulin, heart pills, etc), and a thumb drive containing any files you need if your laptop is lost on your person (I.e, in your pockets). Leave your carry-on in the bin, and just get out. Once you’re out safely, if you loose your luggage, you’ll still have what you need to quickly recover from the situation; everything else will be replaced by the airline, and you can get a new laptop, transfer your files, and keep going like nothing happened.

[@CollaredDom]

I don't know about "everything" being replaced by the airline (you have to have some measure of proof), but yeah. If you are travelling with a billion-dollar heirloom and it gets lost... the airline might not replace that item. Just sayin'. (and you also DESERVE to not get it back. Travelling with a billion-dollar heirloom. LOL)

[@nono-fb8tr]

@@CollaredDom I wouldn't say "travelling". If they have an heirloom they are probably TRANSPORTING it, not travelling with it. They are moving it to a new destination.

[@CollaredDom]

@@nono-fb8tr So you transport your wallet, watch, and shoes? Interesting.

[@AaronShenghao]

How important can your carry on be? If you lost your carry on in a fire, you can ask airline for compensation. If you said the laptop in you bag have all your precious memories, you should have a back up somewhere anyway. If you lost your wedding ring because you are supposed to take it off, just ask your husband/wife get you a new one. They will be much happier than attending your funeral.

[@superslimanoniem4712]

Yeah, ppl can be dumb.

[@sebastiannielsen]

I think its more about passports, money, credit cards and such. If you tick away "Emergency passport service" or "Emergency cash service" off your ticket to save like 50€, your'e not getting home if you can't show who you are or can pay for a ticket home. Doesn't matter if you just survived an emergency. Thats exactly what "Emergency Passport Service" is - a entity who can vouch for your identity - and help with the issuance of a temporary passport - in case your passport gets lost in an emergency. And most people are trying to get the absolute cheapest tickets they can get - meaning they tick off all insurances, emergency services and similiar, to save some bucks off their ticket. And then when a emergency happens - they know they're not going home if they don't have their passport - they take their handbags. I think the future will be better on this, when we all have our passports, tickets, money, and everything in our mobile phone. Then I think people will more often leave luggage behind during emergencies.

[@exrobowidow1617]

@Matthew Morycinski Definitely first checked bag free. Baggage is part of flying with passengers, and should not be charged extra. Not that I really want Congress passing more laws...

[@AaronShenghao]

@@sebastiannielsen I had been traveling quite a lot internationally. And personally I kept my passport on me while boarding and before the flight starts decending (it will be in the carry-on after first meal service and taken out after second meal service). For one, you need it to fill forms and present it at immigration anyway, so why not have it in hand. Second, conveniently it's also when most accidents happen, so if I died someone have a easy way to identify me. (Just kidding, but exactly so I have a way to proof who I am) I don't consider "proof of pay" is important when you are victim of an evacuation and or plane crash, you can always call your embassy for a free ride home. (From my experience you can't even buy a international ticket without ant proof of identity)

[@sebastiannielsen]

@@AaronShenghao Yeah but your ambassady will only take you for a free ride home during extraordinary circumstances. If you ticked off "Emergency Cash Service" and lost your credit card in a plane fire, they will say, its your own fault for ticking off "Emergency Cash Service" instead of paying for that insurance. So best would be to make sure all passports and such is in the mobile. Then this hassle will end totallt.

[@mechanikos84]

Your evac edit should be shown as an infomercial everywhere to demonstrate how not to do it. As always, nice informative video, thanks captain

[@thawekpl]

As an ex cabin crew it anger me so much! There's a (controversial) way to speed up the evacuation tho - grab the bag they're holding and throw it away through the doors. Watch them running for that.

[@TheDel4873]

That’s actually a smart idea.

[@Khemani_RL]

That’s why I always bring a very small pouch with me while I’m travelling that can even fasten around your waist. It carries my essentials such as my passport, my keys, my money and my phone along with my ID. It’s always fastened round my waist so that during an emergency I’m not halting the evacuation process by being selfish and opening overhead bins and bringing baggage.

[@Mike-Rosovz]

I guess ALL these things can be replaced easily... An injured body or dead people not. With that pouch around your waist - there is a quite a good possibility to get stuck in something and block the way anyway. Just leave and go... If everbody does it, it will be fine. It is an Airfield - it is a landing strip - not the bronx or the area around the eiffel-tower in paris where pickpockets are around, try to steal your belongings.

[@ianroberts6531]

Likewise - whenever I fly my passport, phone, wallet and keys stay in my pockets, not my bag.

[@Khemani_RL]

@@Mike-Rosovz To be honest, it will take more time just trying to unfasten it from around my waist. I might as well bring it with me since it’s already there around my waist.

[@Mike-Rosovz]

@@Khemani_RL Do whatever you want. IMO it is not smart but even more dangerous. Imagine a person with some extra stuff wrapped around them needs to unfasten themself fast and finding it fidling arround with the wrong belt or is distracted by other lashes. For sure... it is not forbidden and just my 2 cents. But I would suggest to everybody who does it, to overthink this practice.

[@danielsteger8456]

@@Mike-Rosovz bruh people are blocking and grabbing their luggage in a FIRE and you are worried about this dude and his little pouch?

[@RMFtheclumsy]

That reminded me of one case. There was runway excursion on landing. Nose gear on grass, no damage, no fire, no smoke, no one injured. Pilots could ask for boarding ramp and buses ang get passengers to terminal without any problem. But passengers were freaking like "Aaay, we've crashed! We're goin' to die! Let me out!" They panicked, ignored poor FA, ignored capitain's announcements and rushed to exits. Pilots just had to do emergency evacuation checklist and let girls open the doors, because situation was completely out of control. Some people were trampled, some people got fractures and strains on emergency slopes. In TV news there were "brave passengers" who "barely escaped teriible death", "got off easily" (tons of screams and tears), and pilots, of cause, was "suicidal maniacs" .

[@Pohlmaster]

Yes, oftentimes we don’t learn in school, what we later need in life. But: In school we all had emergency trainings, we especially had to train, to leave all our bags and stuff in the classroom and to listen to our teachers while getting out of the building. You can forget everything you learned in school but please don’t forget how to act in that emergency. Because we tent to fall into habits, especially in emergency situations, continue these emergency trainings at home at least 2-3 times a year, especially when you have children.

[@keremcemayaz2795]

Wonderful coverage, explanation and evaluation, especially about the ridiculousness of the passangers taking their stuff with them whilst evacuating! Huge fan of your content as a young avgeek!

[@normadesmond9659]

Captain Joe and VASaviation! Doesn't get much better than this! Joe, are you still planning to do a vid on animal (horse) cargo or did I miss it?

[@sanchoodell6789]

Didn't realise Joe is flying for Pegasus Airlines!

[@TheUnsungHeroes]

U missed it bro check out his "how animals and pets are transported on planes" video...

[@normadesmond9659]

@@TheUnsungHeroes I didn't miss anything "bro". In that video, Joe says a horse transport flight video is in the planning and I've not seen one. I'll wait for his answer.

[@moiraatkinson]

@@normadesmond9659 Oh? I must have missed that announcement. I watched the video on “where is my pet during flight?” However I can’t remember anything about a promise to make a subsequent one on horse transportation. I would think it’s actually fairly rare as horses are mainly transported on ferries if they can’t go by road. I’m thinking race horses here mind, it may be different for pets.

[@TheUnsungHeroes]

@@normadesmond9659 Yeah ur correct , my bad "BRO" 😂😅

[@tyan19691966]

Automatic locks combined with LOCKED and EVACUATE PICTOGRAMS on every luggage compartments

[@Tautusian]

And knocking out anyone who tries and thus puts every else at risk? That would be a solution and a half.

[@andrewtobias1]

You'll have certain people screaming big socialist government taking away more freedoms, making a political statement over safety.

[@musicalaviator]

Electric fence the overheads? Jk

[@bethhentges]

I read/heard on another channel that locked bins were rejected because people will waste even more time trying to open them. I don’t know how one could test that hypothesis.

[@shreyanexclusive1766]

Yes.. understand everything... no one other can explain better than this..... so clear to understand everything 😌... just AWESOME like every video... love you captain JOE

[@IMPULSEGOAT]

Captain Joe Im so glad you brought up the passenger evacuation. I thought the same thing like where is the sense of urgency ! I also saw videos of passengers walking around filming like zombies. Evacuate, gather your family and get away from the burning plane !! Thanks for the vids.

[@christianseefu5944]

Seeing passengers going for their luggage at an emergency evac only shows how few actually listen to the safety announcements. i couldn´t help but to roll my eyes after i heard the lady asking "should we get our bags". i always have to think about the quote from the first Men in Black Movie when i see something like this. "A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it" 🤷

[@NicolaW72]

Indeed, I, too.

[@daveroche6522]

Jeez, what's next? Instructions received? Check, Evacuation announced? Check, Immediately stand and reach into overhead bin to locate 'stuff'? Check, Stand in aisle retrieving said 'stuff'? Check, Waste time asking flight attendant (i.e. SAFETY OFFICER) some moronic/pointless questions? Check, Block the exit while taking selfies? Check, Damage slide by not following previous instructions? Check, Get arrested for culpable negligence/reckless endangerment? "MOMMY".

[@gasviation9077]

@@daveroche6522 filming tiktok? check

[@igni5s]

Thank you Joe. Stay safe, and thank you for being the best KZbinr out there!

[@flywithcaptainjoe]

Thanks mate, means a lot!

[@strattybird5310]

I saw the evac vids before and wondered about the carry on luggage as well. Thanks for focusing on this.

[@oliverstemp9132]

I love how calm it is on board

[@Erik_The_Viking]

Love the music! Time for some passengers to be put on the "do not fly" list. Great job by ATC, pilots and firemen!

[@martintheiss4038]

Yes the bar sciene from the fourth Star Wars (first 1977 version).

[@MakeItWithCalvin]

I guess my years of watching air crash investigation videos have me a bit paranoid but every time I fly I always make sure to have a rough mental idea of "where is my exit" and "what is my alt exit." I get it no one wants to see their stuff getting burnt in a crash, I would be sad if my laptop got burnt up, but you are not replaceable! And imagine later on the guilt of knowing your selfish action could have cost others their lives. I do wish as part of the safety briefing they stressed the importance of a fast yet safe evacuation from the aircraft. The FAA has the "half the exits in 90 seconds" rule which is contested for time and realism BUT the point is you do not have all day to get out. It is do it now or die waiting in the queue.

[@vk2ig]

@Kimberly Woodbury Good point. And, you might be crawling on your hands and knees to avoid inhaling smoke and other combustion products, and viewing the passage way from that vantage point is very different from when you're standing up.

[@concierge7574]

If you watch Air Disasters, the positive is, FAA investigators inform us: 1. What was learned from the crash. 2. What FAA mandated + suggested to make flying SAFER. 3. Have you noticed how other pilots, + anyone interested in aviation, learn from the mistakes of other pilots + ATC, maintenance, etc.? The improvements make aviation safer + help prevent repeating the same mistakes. CRM is one improvement. Pilots telling people to listen to flight attendants safety instructions is another.

[@jesuseduardo5658]

It's a really good educational video about aircrafts emergency situations. Congrats dear Captain Joe and thanks for teach us... Greetings from Venezuela

[@Suburp212]

Finally one of Joe's videos again. Fantastic

[@habun_islam]

Good editing showing the passengers evacute 😂😂

[@NicolaW72]

Yes.

[@JettisonTheSupreme]

Finally, my favourite unseen heroes the airport firefighters are mentioned! Always marginalised due to their small brigade size, though most of these brave men and women have a skillset far larger than any ordinary firefighter. Great video. Edit: clarity after a kind fellow notified me

[@moiraatkinson]

Small size? Firemen?! In the UK they’re big and strong - they have to be to carry people from burning buildings!

[@musicalaviator]

@@moiraatkinson "airport" firemen aren't normal ground side firemen, and certainly aren't going inside buildings. Inside planes, yes. Inside buildings, no.

[@flywithcaptainjoe]

I would love to do a video entirely on the firebrigade! That would be so awesome!

[@JettisonTheSupreme]

@@moiraatkinson size as in brigade size. Airport fire comparesd to territorial fire services are way smaller.

[@JettisonTheSupreme]

@@flywithcaptainjoe thanks! Looking forward to seeing that!

[@timames4405]

Joe, as always, a good video. The issue about learnt behaviours and habit. As passengers we surrender control at the airport. We are shepherded (for want of a better phrase) into checking in, following the line for security, then told to proceed to the Gate, told to sit down and told when to board. We have no autonomy or input into the process. In an emergency situation, as passengers we now have to retake an element of control, put our brains into gear and 'remember the briefing' and leave our possessions behind! However, because we have so many learnt behaviours from previous journeys, such as "please take all your belongings when you leave the aircraft." I'm sure that part of the brain takes over as well! Also, as an evacuation is a bewildering and exceptional situation, passengers revert to type. I'm not excusing the behaviour of the Spirt passengers. However, if the fire was more fierce, as with British Airtours 28M (as all hell broke loose in the cabin in the panic to escape), I suspect the reaction of the passengers on the Spirt flight would have been very different.

[@omgitstord]

Super informative, as always! Would it be possible to get a video of you trying out DCS World? It'd be interesting to see how a seasoned pilot like yourself would experience the sim.

[@militaryav8r]

As an aircrew member myself, the first thing I thought when seeing the evac footage on other channels was “Why the hell are they concerned with bags!” And I had the same thoughts as you did… eventually cabin outfitters and/or manufacturers will begin installing automated locks that will prevent overhead bins from opening once the flight deck has initiated the evacuation process.

[@CT-tp6bd]

Locks are a good idea on the face of it. But people will still try to open them during an evacuation, potentially creating an even longer hold up.

[@militaryav8r]

@@CT-tp6bd True, but I think if it becomes the standard for a given airline/aircraft type, that airline can incorporate that information into the pre-departure safety briefing. I know that’s far from a perfect solution as many don’t listen to those briefings anyway, but it’s better than what we have today.

[@militaryav8r]

@@CT-tp6bd plus… if even some of the passengers get the message, I’m pretty sure they’d be more than happy to forcefully push others along if they know that trying to open them is a waste of time. Delays aside… It also cuts down on the risk of puncturing the slides with sharp objects as passengers EGRESS.

[@CT-tp6bd]

@@militaryav8r Yeah - I’d like to see one of the aviation youtubers do a take on this.

[@davidbeckenbaugh9598]

Absolutely NO. You are wrong. Locking them AFTER the evac has started is not going to help as they have already opened them and started to get stuff out. The time to lock them is just after they depart the gate and are being pushed back. Unlocked ten minutes into the air (unless having an emergency return). Locking the bins ten minutes before landing and not unlocking them until you are parked at the gate.

[@cherryann6524]

I learned a lot from this vlog, Capt. Joe. Kudos!

[@InformationMike]

I have been a cop for over 11 years and am working on getting my ratings to retire from law enforcement an become a pilot. Sadly Joe, you have witnessed what I have been my whole career. The increasing lack of respect and trust towards anyone in authority. People who have no training or experience somehow think they know better than the people who do it for a living. Great commentary and debrief on this incident. I have my instrument check ride next week. Pray for me!!!

[@ATAdude666]

one of those huh....

[@harrier331]

@@ATAdude666 What does that men?

[@Eternal_Tech]

There are probably several reasons for the "increasing lack of respect and trust towards anyone in authority." One, due to the prevalence of smartphones with cameras, there have been numerous instances of authorities behaving badly caught on video. Of course, most police officers do not abuse their authority, but if the news frequently shows officers doing wrong, then the general public is going to get the perception that many police officers are abusive. Two, most peoples' interactions with police are negative. The majority of people who interact with police do so because they receive a traffic ticket, often for the offense of speeding. However, unless someone is speeding in a crowded residential or business area, then going above the speed limit is harmless and most people know this. Before the use of automobiles became popular, the majority of the population did not have interaction with the police. Now, negative interactions with the police are common. I hope that your check ride went well.

[@ATAdude666]

@@Eternal_Tech while most cops do not abuse their authority, they are complacent in authority abuse, and generally do not perform the job they claim to perform (just the one they actually get paid to do)... i mean shit most police cars say something to the affect of protect and serve, which as the supreme court has affirmed, is absolutely not their job... so i would say the argument is semantic in nature

[@ATAdude666]

@@harrier331 sadboi cop mad people don't do whatever unlawful order he gives.... probably why he stopped

[@kerezymaii]

I still watch these videos even though I fell out with Joe on Instagram, because they are so informative ✈️ Planes are cool. Best vehicle hands down

[@Smokinhaze]

that intro and beat drop hits every time!

[@flywithcaptainjoe]

Happy that it still works the magic :)

[@BigDukeX]

Automatic locking overheads during an evacuation... sounds like an excellent idea. Hopefully airlines will also install an illuminated light on each bin that says... “Leave it-get the hell out now”. Undoubtedly, many PAX will still stand there - blocking the pathway, pounding on the bins in order to gather all of their belongings - before exiting to safety.

[@MrConor159]

Sounds like a lot of added weight though

[@gaminglife4292]

@@MrConor159 Could be a small automaton lock like the one on doors

[@pandaroll2323]

Haha, that illuminated light - love it! Sadly, for some folks your last sentence would probably also occur. The locking overheads could also lead to people storing their bags between their feet etc (as another poster has indicated they already do). By each passenger assuming their proper responsibilities (as they should) it increases the safety of everyone.

[@vk2ig]

Connect 10,000 Volts (from a low current source) to the handles - they'll give up trying to open the bins pretty soon. Want to act like cattle? No worries, then you won't mind be treated like cattle.

[@vk2ig]

@@gaminglife4292 Agree. It wouldn't have to weigh that much at all, and the latches wouldn't need to be big as they wouldn't need to withstand a lot of force: hand force from passengers (who would give up after a couple of tries), and the internal impact force from luggage moving around during turbulence. There are a few comments disagreeing with this proposal from the "lot of added weight" crowd. Initially I couldn't figure out why these people would be against such safety measures until I realised they've had to evacuate an aircraft at some time and they took their luggage with them, LOL!

[@FeScully]

Oh my! That was insane! I was once in an almost emergency landing. From Brasilia to Recife, my home town. I’ve taken many flights since I was a child so I’m very familiar with all the procedures. This time I noticed we were approaching from the south, I could see the beach. A while later I noticed that we where waaay past the airport and making a turn returning to the airport area kind of above the sea. There was no announcement like there’s an emergency on the ground or too many planes waiting to land. So I guesses we had a problem and were getting rid of the fuel, i put some credit cards and my id in my pocket just in case. In the end I guess they solved the issue because we landed with no trouble but there was a parade of fire trucks and ambulances. I wasn’t at the emergency exit but close enough that I was ready to be there if necessary. Everybody was calm, I don’t think anybody else noticed until we landed or they were just like me. It was ok for me, but my poor parents. My flight was “landing” on the panel for almost an hour and all the other landings were on hold. My dad kept checking “flight aware”. Everybody was getting really agitated because there was no news about what was going on. There should be someone ready to deal with situations like this at the airports.

[@yutahestifirmani7684]

This video is very informative for passengers to be more patient and calm, thanks captain Joe, so far I have been a passenger when traveling by plane, often I am in a situation where passengers are scrambling to get off the plane, scrambling to pick up things in the plane cabin, rushing to turn on their cellphones , don't know why they did it. everything is in a hurry. I can only watch and wait from my seat. because it must be very uncomfortable crammed into a tight space in the aisle of the plane.

[@MyAvitech]

"I know I'm not supposed too, buuuttt... I'M SpEcIaL!!" - Every pax who grabbed their bags.

[@NicolaW72]

Thank you very much for this straight and very informative debriefing!👍 And yes, something should be done: In this case it went well - but an evacuation like that could cost human lifes.

[@theresechristiansen9769]

119 disliking this video (which was beautifully presented with informative info) are probably those sneaking their luggage -or just loading it all up! - down the emergency evac route. new subby! I love your videos, Cap'n Joe. I must have watched 11 yesterday: lots more to go.

[@wernerballesteros6821]

When people think their belongings are more important than their lives and the others, it’s a reflect of how selfish we are now, and how we overlook or skip important facts of life for unimportant ones.

[@johndemas4491]

A few years ago in Russia there was an aircraft fire and evacuation on the runway and many of the survivors grabbed their bags resulting in several people burning to death. Absolutely disgraceful behavior.

[@NicolaW72]

Yes, indeed. If I´m right it was Aeroflot Flight 1492 in 2018. There´re still videos about that accident here on KZbin.

[@g00nther]

@@NicolaW72 There's this Emirates 521 evacuation where all passengers survived, unfortunately one fireman died. But the video of people taking their belongings is aggravating. The flight attendants were great you hear them shouting "Leave everything! Jump and slide!"

[@metalfuck1]

@@NicolaW72 RRJ-95B RA-89098 - 5 may 2019 Moscow. 40 passengers and 1 crew died.

[@ivanriverooo]

As a former Cabin Crew, It's very very simple. All or most of hand luggage will by protocol be in the overhead compartments, and ONCE the CAPT declares an emergency, with the push of a button they will all be shut down electronically and locked to death, rather than some poor passengers. Period.

[@superslimanoniem4712]

Some idiots will think the doors are just a little stuck and be messing with them for multiple freaking minutes. Don't underestimate stupidity.

[@ivanriverooo]

@@superslimanoniem4712 You're actually right. Then some lights or some big indicators like "non smoking" in big red with an X indicating locked are needed. If I was a passenger, I'd help a struggling passenger in front of me to get out in no time, but any of those idiots I'd be thrilled to tackle down through the aisle. Imagine the safety demo: "In case of an asshole crying for his hand luggage, please proceed to NFL the shit out of him by..." 😂😂😂

[@miracleguy2959]

Thank you for explaining this! You are very good at communicating thoughts and 💡 ideas👍🏼👍🏼☘️

[@vinnysessa8756]

I was a passenger on this flight sitting in row 4 C. I can tell you it was insane, there were absolutely no instructions although it’s common sense to leave your bags. The pilot never said at least as I could remember to the flight attendants to go to there stations. In fact there were no instructions other then remain seated. Who in there right mind is going to take there seat. Picture the scene. Plane was stopped, flames visible from row 4. The smells of fire and burning rubber. All I wanted was the door open so we could get out. The pilots did a great job however the flight attendants were were absolutely terrible. In fact the side with the fire the slides were deployed. Not realizing I went down that slide only to feel the heat from the flames. We had zero instructions outside the aircraft. It was not until a pilot came off that had us all move further away. On the bus back to the terminal the pilot was very informative. Telling us exactly what happened. When we got to the terminal that was much worse then the actual plane fire. No one to help us. I left everything on board. We had to idea how to get our belongings. I called the 800 number and was told my flight was in route to Florida. They had no idea what even occurred and this was at least 2 hours later. Finally someone walks around with sticky notes and ask people to write down what was on board and our phone number. At that time we all started to get text messages from the airline. Not with any info or a number to call but just a Sorry for the delay. Here is a $7.00 food Voucher . 2 days later still no call. Unable to reach anyone other then India. I go back to the airport where my personal items were sitting behind the counter. I did about 2 weeks letter get a detailed letter explaining what happened and approximately 600 in flight credits.

[@Pies.]

Never disobey Captain joe, you'll regret it

[@thewalfly]

Locking the Overhead Bins is such a good idea 😁

[@tf51d]

Yes good idea, but then again I can see some idiot stop and block the aisles to try and force it open to get their bags!

[@PaulN504]

@@tf51d Yes but if everyone knew the bins were locked I bet the rest of the crowd would be more than happy to give the idiot a helpful shove towards the exit.

[@vk2ig]

@@PaulN504 Or they'd rapidly end up becoming part of the walkway and get to exit last ... assuming they got up again, that is.

[@william0203usa2]

2:19 wow. Saying mayday would make SUCH a difference… thanks for the insight captain joe

[@EmanuelJenner]

every fa during safety demo and emergency: "in an emergency leave everything behind" pax: are we taking our stuff or what

[@richc47us]

Joe, when are you getting the 4th stripe? Great work!

[@flywithcaptainjoe]

6 years from now, hopefully :)

[@tjsynkral]

What you may not realize is Spirit is our equivalent to Ryanair, and they actually charge passengers a $50 fee per bag to retrieve it from the wreckage of a crash

[@akb5531]

Whuuut!?

[@ntvonline9480]

With the money one saves with Spirit, an additional $50 is not going to even come close to a standard ticket price. Besides, saving a life is worth more than $50. Thank you for your insight.

[@MatthijsvanDuin]

[citation needed]

[@vk2ig]

@@MatthijsvanDuin You want a Cessna?

[@MatthijsvanDuin]

@@vk2ig lol

[@Nyck461]

Very instructive video specially for passengers during an evacuation. Thanks Cpt. Joe.

[@Rok_Satanas]

That's why I always book my seat next to emergency exit. I have flown so many times I know the procedure (at least I think I do, no emergencies yet) And I would be able to be the 1st out, not blocking. The leg room is a bonus.

[@jasonellingson883]

You may have meant "DISOBEDIENT Passengers" -- otherwise, it reads that someone was disobeying the passengers. LOL.

[@CollaredDom]

Well? Follow the passengers' orders and you wouldn't have this problem. (/s)

[@PRCOM]

Had the honour today or rebuilding a rolls Royce merlin engine fitted with new oil sump and a new injection carburetor and a two-stage supercharger. Great video cpt, I hope everyone is taking the chance to video call cpt Joe in the description.

[@bcgrittner8076]

As a retired suburban structural firefighter, I can attest to orderly evacuations. I fly occasionally and I do pay attention to the safety briefings. I’m also aware of where the exits are, how to open the doors, etc. Do I trust the other passengers? Not a chance. Good presentation, Joe.

[@spelldaddy5386]

This is why, as a passenger, I've started preparing myself for an evacuation before the aircraft pushes back from the gate. I'm dressed appropriately for the weather until 10K feet, with proper shoes on, and any essentials like my phone in my pocket where I won't lose it. Above 10K I relax, but on descent to landing, I do all of that prep again before passing below 10K, until we've pulled up to the gate and the seatbelt sign is off. Thank God I've never experienced an emergency myself, but I always prepare myself each time I fly as if I will have an emergency that day

[@rocketdyneF1]

Never underestimate the stupidity of people in large numbers.

[@enni190]

Right before you even mentioned that the overheads will be installed with a locking mechanism in a few years my thoughts also went in the direction of "Wouldn't locking them up resolve the problem"

[@MINIMAN10000]

I think it's reasonable that people desire to get their personal artifacts. I'd say it's human nature. It's their personal goods and they fear losing them. These are emergency protocols, to that end I believe it is best to have electronic emergency locks to prevent people from trying to grab personal effects. You can't expect people to do something for the greater good at their expense it's simply unreasonable IMO.

[@GuestUser18]

Love the floating 747 in the background! 😄

[@AaaaNinja]

"Are we taking our bags?" is what I would say like that woman. Not out of confusion but out of incredulity.