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@sailaab8 ай бұрын
Nicely researched and presented and one of the most intermingled and complex ones.
@michal_wes8 ай бұрын
what sim do you use for these videos? is it X-Plane11 or something?
@aramchek8 ай бұрын
Do you really need an ad break every 3 minutes? Because that makes this unwatchable.
@lolcakes1188 ай бұрын
@@aramchek ublock origin? KZbin controls the ads, not the creator.
@adambombzify8 ай бұрын
keep the old intro. that song with the green dot animation is iconic
@Eridanya7 ай бұрын
I work for an aircraft maintenance company, and they used part of your videos in a saftey presentation I had to attend. I recognized the tone and everything as a regular watcher. Cheers
@elevul6 ай бұрын
They didn't credit him?
@4n4Queen6 ай бұрын
@@elevulI don't think so.
@tek876 ай бұрын
@@4n4Queen They probably just browsed to KZbin and played the video. No need to pirate whats free.
@LateNightCigars6 ай бұрын
Jeez... I wouldn't want my plane maintained by this company.
@MichaelOosthuizen-rf9de5 ай бұрын
😊
@chrisburns26088 ай бұрын
The fact that the first officer never spoke up during the entire emergency is truly sad
@Jabarri748 ай бұрын
When his instruments were showing imminent doom, at what point does survival instinct kick in? He said nothing as was reported on the video. Seems the engineer was the only one with a grasp of the situation.
@arjunhamdalah41398 ай бұрын
@@Jabarri74the moment he said "oy, bank".
@davidcerrato87978 ай бұрын
As someone in the military, the First Officer resigning himself to just being a passive bystander and not actually growing a pair to stand up to his superior is what caused this. Sometimes your superiors are out of touch asshats who have no idea what they're talking about, and if they're allowed to follow through with their plan, it'll inevitably lead to very bad consequences for his or her team. It's up to the subordinates to think critically, recognize the situation, grow a pair, speak up, and call out their superior to prevent avoidable tragedies and unnecessary complications. This whole culture thing in Korea and Korean military is utter nonsense.
@annakeye8 ай бұрын
@@davidcerrato8797 It was and is still prevalent in some airlines.
@indianfan10298 ай бұрын
Afterall they are Koreans. We tend to think of South Koreans and North Koreans as opposites. And it may be true in some aspects but culturally they may be closer than different.
@bella92828 ай бұрын
Just wanted to thank you for all you do. My grandfather passed a few weeks ago, and the last couple of times I went to visit, we would watch your videos together. He’s always had an interest in engineering, whether it be cars, ships, or planes, but neither of us realized the other was interested in accident investigations. Your work will always be dear to my heart and remind me of the time I got to spend with him.
@GreenDotAviation8 ай бұрын
That's very touching, thanks for sharing
@bobgomez94817 ай бұрын
Cool story bro
@bella92827 ай бұрын
@@bobgomez9481 you say that like you don’t believe it, lmfao
@bella92827 ай бұрын
@@OutoftheEchoChamber honestly wasn’t even bothered by it, more confused than anything. But I’m so sorry for your loss. I don’t know if you feel similarly but I feel that it’s really beautiful to have had a relationship special enough to miss them as much as we do. Thank you for sharing 🩷
@mrkipling22017 ай бұрын
@@bella9282I totally agree. My brother passed away in 2021 aged 40, and my very good friend died last year. He was 86 but it was totally unexpected as he was in good health until the day he went. I was his carer. So I lost my friend, job and home, all at once. I'm sorry for your loss, my condolences.
@annoorange1238 ай бұрын
As someone who only knows what happens in the cockpit from KZbin, i cannot comprehend this story. Captain had thousands of hours of flight, aware of the instrument failure from the previous flight, warnings both audible and visual, his inputs didnt match the instruments and FE mentioned bank, yet he didn't react in any way?! This is crazy
@arjunyg46558 ай бұрын
different crew on the two flights, but yeah still, crazy to dismiss an ADI compare warning with no cross check of the ADI…
@jenmuck8 ай бұрын
As someone who.. the fog. The fog is coming.
@AnoNym-zi5ty8 ай бұрын
The first crew knew the ANU failed and could have written it down more clearly.
@TheUrantia0018 ай бұрын
suicide obviously....
@jeh13338 ай бұрын
Arrogance and egos cost lives!
@Itory13378 ай бұрын
As soon as there is a power imbalance in the cockpit, safety dies. Hierarchies are one thing, but a clear perception of tasks and mutual respect are what I understand by professionalism, whether on an airplane or anywhere else.
@None-zc5vg7 ай бұрын
See the 'Tenerife' crash in 1977 for an illustration
@vennisemae70498 ай бұрын
so sad how arrogance, pride, and selfishness was the reason that lives were lost... this is so prevalent in korean culture specifically in the older generations and this reminds me of the sewol ferry tragedy which took more than 300 lives with a majority of them being children. great video as always, mr. green dot!! :)
@1398go8 ай бұрын
With decades, maybe hundreds of years of Korean culture ingrained in each Korean, time would have never predicted that flying a big metal machine would test their culture when inside that cockpit. The sad but best way is to learn, and at times learn from tragedies unfortunately.
@mohamedh.guelleh6308 ай бұрын
@@1398gono, it's specifically said in the video that the airline had this culture problem, but never took action to fix it until the crash happened. Innocent lives were lost and it's the airline's fault to have ignored the problem for so long.
@IStMl8 ай бұрын
@@mohamedh.guelleh630 the problem stems from Korean culture and the airline's failure to install an aeronautical culture stronger than the Korean one within its ranks. Not that it's an easy feat.
@IncorrigibleBigotry8 ай бұрын
@@IStMl Well said.
@canardeur83907 ай бұрын
Yes: the korean "culture"! If we can call it like that...
@tek876 ай бұрын
When you hear the plane landed safely and realize there's still 20 mins left in the video. 🥺
@N1Z3LАй бұрын
Yeah I just commented that I think its the first vid with 2 flights in one. Kinda strage after watching so many videos of him with just 1 flight per upload.
@richardvernon3178 ай бұрын
I was at home 3 miles away from the impact of this crash and saw and heard the windows rattle from the blast.
@LarryWhite-kw5mj8 ай бұрын
Glad i never saw samantha smiths crash in auburn,maine.i was on duty then
@pooryorick8317 ай бұрын
That must have been a terrible thing to witness. I can't imagine seeing or hearing such a thing. Dreadful...
@richardvernon3177 ай бұрын
@@pooryorick831 Didn't know what it was until I Drove to my Grandparents to drop off some Christmas presents around 45 minutes after the crash and saw a lot of fire engines and other emergency wagons going the other way. That's when I turned the radio and heard that the boom had been a 747 crash.
@PM-mm3pz6 ай бұрын
I was on the plane
@prac26 ай бұрын
@PM-mm3pz Lol beat me to that one by 7 days
@snorlax40218 ай бұрын
Love your video's, by far my favorite air disaster channel. No excessive use of stock images, clear explaination, focus on the accident, just perfect.
@GreenDotAviation8 ай бұрын
Thank you, glad you're enjoying them 🙏
@shibukurian798 ай бұрын
same for me! green dot. i commented my opinion on this accident. there was a few alternative ways which the captain could have understood whether his ADI was working or not. for example the number of Gs exerted on his body during the dive.
@bikeny7 ай бұрын
@@GreenDotAviation Content and all are good. My only dislike is the playing of 'background music' while you are narrating. You are not the only YT host doing this and I ask the others as well to not do it. Muting and enabling the c/c is not really good, because then I have to read the screen and the text, especially in these types of videos where you are showing us stuff, can block the images. Also, the auto-gen'd cc are not perfect. For example, in another aviation channel, the host said 'fore' but the c/c wrote 'four.' Sure, I could determine what was said in that case, but it is not always possible. So, pretty please with sugar on top, do not play any music while you are narrating. Thx.
@ZeroSOFInfinity8 ай бұрын
No crashes in 25 years since this crash is one really impressive record.
@stephenholland59307 ай бұрын
Still wouldn't fly on Korean Air, just like Air France.
@DGTelevsionNetwork7 ай бұрын
@@stephenholland5930air France is really the worst
@TheRealNTSBlol7 ай бұрын
I only fly Air Canada, Lufthansa, and Etihad. ONLY.
@padorukurumi65727 ай бұрын
Korean Air 631 crashed 2 years ago in Mactan-Cebu Airport where it overshot its runway. The aircraft was totally written-off BUT, this was the next total write off after the 8509 crash, having Korean Air 23 years w/o very serious crashes like these two. Also there are no casualties and injuries in flight 631 too.
@alanmiller96816 ай бұрын
I have flown many times on both Korean and Asiana. I was even on Asiana 214 a week prior to the SFO crash. Both Korean airlines have severe cultural issues as the comments and video have suggested. There is simply way too much respect for seniority and experience. While I haven’t flown on either airline since flight 214, I really enjoy flying on the 747-8 given the opportunity.
@MikeDCWeld8 ай бұрын
It's crazy to think that the captain believed that the plane wasn't turning as he was requesting it to, yet he didn't initiate any sort of non-normal checklist to diagnose the problem.
@iiikkk84466 ай бұрын
I thoughe same, but 56 seconds are extremely short time
@gracedillard15976 ай бұрын
@@iiikkk8446especially when that was from take off not from when he tried to start turning
@krob23274 ай бұрын
Ok. Kim was compromised by the Russians during his time living in Moscow.
@christianwiese98873 ай бұрын
@@iiikkk8446 yes but if you give left yoke for more than 10 secs and the artificial horizon does not budge, even your lowest insticts should cry out.
@matthewhanf30332 ай бұрын
Forgot that, how do you not FEEL that turn?!
@MenwithPurpose20128 ай бұрын
Hold up. The first crew had written in the tech log that if the captains ADI was switched to ATT, everything would be alright. He essentially told the maintenance crew exactly what to do in the tech log!
@Andrew-dy1xi8 ай бұрын
Yeah so why the fck did the engineer think it was a problem with the ADI
@TescoRoadman8 ай бұрын
Ikr. Like common sense, where is it
@greenockscatman8 ай бұрын
Well the guy did find a supposedly corroded pin in there, so he must have taken that + successful test as proof positive that the problem had been fixed.
@alphamineron8 ай бұрын
@@Andrew-dy1xi sounds like an intelligence problem… what was written (if accurately shown in the video) and the problem he solved for are mutually exclusive. People are blaming the culture but it was this incompetent engineer who caused the crisis
@alphamineron8 ай бұрын
@@greenockscatman confirmation bias is not a justification
@1398go8 ай бұрын
One of the reasons why it is such a joy to watch your videos is somewhat of an odd but reasonable explanation. You explain what might be the most devastating and even beyond shocking accidents in such a calm and logical manner, even the music and lighting of your videos are calming. Many people have a really hard time watching the 9/11 videos, even the mention of it causes shock-- I think how you approach accidents psychologically has done so much good. Thank you so much for your videos and for preserving our wellbeing,--truly. It’s almost as if at the end of each video you give everyone involved including the viewers of your videos peace from such tragedy. That is absolutely an art form of presentation and preparation to a much greater level than just “posting” a video.
@FreedomIII7 ай бұрын
GreenDot and MentourPilot are my go-tos for accident reports specifically because of those qualities. I don't want dramatisations, I want interesting explanations and lessons I can take into aspects of my own life, not the over-dramatised, horror-for-horror's-sake videos that so many channels put out ❤
@ShutTheMuckUp8 ай бұрын
That's why I always speak up when I see somethings wrong, regardless of who gets mad or not. My life is more important than your ego.
@69left8 ай бұрын
As a commercial pilot, I can't begin to describe the mix of enjoyment and terror your videos evoke! They're incredibly insightful yet concise. Every time a new video appears in my feed, it sparks a surge of excitement. Thank you for your outstanding content! Please guys subscribe to give this guy what he deserves!
@GreenDotAviation8 ай бұрын
Much appreciated!
@rnies68496 ай бұрын
I feel a little at unease when a commercial pilot says this, so I ask the question why a commercial pilot has not at least the same quality devices, educational guidance by his airline?
@69left6 ай бұрын
@@rnies6849 I'm not sure to understand your question. Who said I don't have?
@rnies68496 ай бұрын
@@69left hopefully You have. The praise like "incredibly insightful " etc. evoked the doubts.
@flyerbob1247 ай бұрын
I worked for a Asiana ground handling company for 9 long months. The culture there was amazing to watch. Aircraft captains were gods and nobody questioned them. Even the American born Koreans working there were scared to death of the Korean born management who ran the terminal. More…..as a licensed aircraft mechanic, I believe the Korean Air maintenance guy didn’t do his job as the flight engineers write up practically gave him the problem and the fix if he had troubleshot the problem correctly. Even the captain knew what the problem was and what the fix was. To have to go to a code book to figure out the problem was part of the problem!
@alexroselle7 ай бұрын
Was this before or after their flight 214 crash at SFO? Because I’ve heard company culture and possibly aspects of Korean culture which are contrary to CRM as understood in “Western” countries’ airlines were to blame for that, but as I’m not Korean I want to be careful not to overgeneralize about matters I barely know about.
@flyerbob1247 ай бұрын
@@alexroselle I worked for the ground handling company that handled Asiana before the SFO crash. It’s my understanding that the “you don’t question the Captain” culture was a big part of the problem in that crash.
@rnies68496 ай бұрын
that is the explanation why the Japans lost the war against the USA. At least it contributed much. The boss is in relation to the sub like a God. He is always right cannot be doubted.
@fiddleywest37788 ай бұрын
Your channel is hands down the best aviation channel, you take the viewer through the emotions and situation, it almost feels as though one is in the cockpit.
@GreenDotAviation8 ай бұрын
That's exactly what I'm going for, thanks!
@Metaltherebel927 ай бұрын
Him and Mentour Pilot are the OGs of aviation channels.
@Phiyedough8 ай бұрын
That maintenance engineer should not have needed to look up that code, the written note explained what was happening well enough.
@stephenholland59307 ай бұрын
It would have been sensible to carry a copy of the FIM on board each aircraft.
@ditzygypsy7 ай бұрын
@@stephenholland5930Or maybe even make a quick phone call? Unbelievable.
@kdbrown7777 ай бұрын
@@stephenholland5930 My first thought exactly, why isn't an FIM onboard each plane?
@solomonarhin7 ай бұрын
I’m pretty sure there are such documents online that he could’ve checked
@kdbrown7777 ай бұрын
@@solomonarhin In 1999? The internet wasn't that advanced back then.
@mattquinlob78108 ай бұрын
Bro's video quality has increased 10 fold compared to his previous vids. I LOVE ITTTT
@GreenDotAviation8 ай бұрын
That's what we're going for! Glad you're liking it :))
@pharmphresh8 ай бұрын
Literally, pride goes before the fall. A little humility and everyone would have fine and safe.
@krob23274 ай бұрын
It’s much darker than this. The pilot was blackmailed by the Russians to do this.
@kevinbarry718 ай бұрын
It seems to me, the mechanic should have been able to properly diagnose what was defective from what the flight engineer told him. He said the ADI worked fine once he switched the source. That would tell any reasonable person that the source is the problem.
@Daniel-xy1vk8 ай бұрын
Yea, its like assuming that your car's overheating is a result of a faulty sensor and not the cooling system itself. Very dumb actually.
@indianfan10298 ай бұрын
They are mechanics, and not engineers, for a reason. This precise reason to be precise. 🤐
@phuketexplorer8 ай бұрын
Exactly! I was about to write the exact same thing.
@mortgageapprovals89337 ай бұрын
@kevinbarry71, the mechanic's fault is not the biggest issue here. it was the shit head pilot.
@kevinbarry717 ай бұрын
@@mortgageapprovals8933 no kidding.
@hankulator9617 ай бұрын
That has to be one of the most avoidable crash ever ! 😯
@enderbeam80898 ай бұрын
It's a good day when GreenDot uploads 🎉
@Chizzling8 ай бұрын
You can say that again💯🔥
@Coleizil058 ай бұрын
Frrrr
@Drakeblood978 ай бұрын
Not for the people he's uploading a video about
@NoSaysJo8 ай бұрын
@@Drakeblood97🫵🤡
@sitinurbaedah95988 ай бұрын
@@Chizzling yea
@normtrooper43928 ай бұрын
This is a very accessible aviation channel. The focus on psychology sets it apart from other channels.
@dan.vitale7 ай бұрын
This crash happened a couple of miles where I live. Back when this happened, I was actually on my way home from work in London. My friend, who lives 13 miles away from the crash site said that the impact shook his house. To this day, if you were to go for a walk in Hatfield Forest, where the 747 came down, you'll still find cargo debris strewn in a large area. Most of it is in the form of HP printer cartridge remnants.
@josephconnor23107 ай бұрын
Oh, man
@krob23274 ай бұрын
Don’t touch any of it. It’s cancerous. The uk gov cover this up but the plane was made from carcinogenic material. The uk gov also use stansted as the airport for diplomatic missions as they view the lives of you and those in Essex as less than Londoners. Ie if a terrorist takes down the us presidents plane it’s better over Essex than London. I’ve worked in government. This attitude is everywhere and they frankly hate you
@krob23274 ай бұрын
The plane was made of carcinogens. The gov know this but refuse to move the wreckage. They truly hate the people who,live around that area. I have first hand evidence of this when I worked in parliament
@18RamАй бұрын
so do you have a lot of ink at home still?
@Mikoyan_1238 ай бұрын
This channel rivals air crash investigations, and it’s AWESOME
@tanyavandermerwe83308 ай бұрын
Between you and Mentour Pilot i can't decide who's my favourite. I LOVE both of your content. Can't wait for the next one!
@adityabadukale63538 ай бұрын
They both are great green dot provides incredible story writing paired with technical info, mentour tells a little more about the story generally, both are incredible in their regards
@tanyavandermerwe83308 ай бұрын
@@adityabadukale6353 agreed! I drop everything when these 2 uploads lol
@crankychris28 ай бұрын
74 is good too.
@sharoncassell52738 ай бұрын
I recently discovered Chloe Howie who is also descriptive and thorough on accident investigation. Excellent research and presentation.
@4wheelsride8 ай бұрын
I enjoy green dot aviation more as it binge us with the animation, i wish Mentour Pilot add more animation in their episode it helps to understand better!
@syte_y7 ай бұрын
I can’t stop watching these videos
@secoat8 ай бұрын
i started watching about 5ish weeks ago and i just about have finished every video.. you’re videos are awesome and i appreciate the effort. I can imagine editing and gathering all the info for these vids can be pretty time consuming. anyways.. looks like i just got home with dinner at the perfect time.
@CrossKnight8 ай бұрын
You know it's going to be a great day when Green Dot Aviation uploads a new video! Missed Ya!
@smcdonald99918 ай бұрын
Still amazed that the ground engineer could not check the fault code elsewhere, e.g. phoning his maintenance base in Korea or locally in Stanstead. Also why wasn't there the usual aural warning "Bank Angle"?
@mscolli37 ай бұрын
Maybe that is controlled by the faulty computer that was telling the captain wings were level?
@smcdonald99917 ай бұрын
@@mscolli3 Probably but that means there is no redundancy on this alarm. I read the AAIB report and there is no mention of this.
@aaronmdjones3 ай бұрын
There was no bank angle warning system on this aircraft at this time. It wouldn't surprise me if this accident is what resulted in the creation of that warning system.
@alex_zetsu3 ай бұрын
He in fact could have phoned his maintenance base in Korea despite missing his copy of the book and they would have told him how to fix it. He just didn't do it. As for the company that supplied the other engineers in Stanstead that he had help replace the ADI, they would have told him how to fix it if they gave him the logbook, but he was used to being in Moscow where the local engineering company couldn't diagnose anything and were kind of useless so he'd just tell the engineers what to do and they'd do it.
@boas_8 ай бұрын
A truly horrible captain
@noneofyourbizness6 ай бұрын
A truly horrible c̶a̶p̶t̶a̶i̶n̶ person.
@tazman86975 ай бұрын
A truly horrible DEAD captain
@martinqizeaq5 ай бұрын
Culture problem where the old is to be respected on demand and the young need to comply no matter what. Korea and Japan have this problem.
@reyphobic5 ай бұрын
@@martinqizeaqmajority of asia does.
@noneofthem86864 ай бұрын
This captain have the same attitude as my dad
@MrLegendra7 ай бұрын
Your graphic design team deserves a raise. The animation is so detailed
@malborboss4 ай бұрын
This is Microsoft flight simulator
@atlanta20768 ай бұрын
A sad story. But BIG kudos to the Koreans for owning up to their mistake and changing the culture within their airline. We should not take that for granted. Once they knew what was broke they fixed it. If only BOEING would think the same way :(
@jw24427 ай бұрын
Boeing's way of owning their failures is by jettisoning whistle blowers from this realm to the next.
@Anonnymouss-nu6uv7 ай бұрын
@@jw2442 what are you talking about? The whistleblowers died of suicide/natural causes. Why would you assume that they would pay assassins six figure payments under the table to go kill people who would threaten their corporate empire?
@krob23274 ай бұрын
They are lucky they didn’t kill hundreds on the ground.
@Canleaf087 ай бұрын
When competent people become extremely stubborn and not open for input or feedback, we have this outcome.
@Lainfan7 ай бұрын
Maybe the most impressive part about the aftermath of this tragic crash is that it made KA start implementing and following the international aviation standards much more closely. As a result they are now among the safest airlines to fly with in the world.
@tomtalker20007 ай бұрын
This was SO CLEARLY avoidable...!!! But you had a power hungry captain who was simply NOT in sink with his other officers. Terrible communication issues.
@jasmine03547 ай бұрын
Sync
@jeanadames82307 ай бұрын
I’ve worked with Koreans before (LNG tank construction) and believe me.. this behavior was pretty common between Koreans to have this selfish “ shut up I’m going to do this on my own” and is so bad that they usually broke into fights verbally and physically with each other. Of course, not all Korean are like this. But as far as a fellow Korean told me this is basically a culture thing among them.
@shanksinha815 ай бұрын
I have seen Koreans working in the gulf where I work. They were providing engineering consulting in infrastructure projects and belonged to companies like Hyundai and Daewoo. They were very egoistic, foul-mouthed and brow beating with each other. With other nationalities, they were invariably racist. Horrible work culture, a mixture of the worse of Asian hierarchical system and cheap American "my way or highway" attitude.
@stereomachine5 ай бұрын
I'm Korean and don't believe you. Your experience with a limited group of people shouldn't become a broad stereotype. One guy there telling you it's common isn't enough evidence
@huatseng60375 ай бұрын
We work with koreans as well, and yeah they do have that superiority complex within them and those who they see as “lower” than them (personally or culturally; also age, sex, nationality etc). It must be common
@stereomachine5 ай бұрын
@@huatseng6037Again, you're stereotyping. Are you Chinese? If I tried to generalize all of China based on a small sample of Chinese people I met I'd be ignorant. Don't be ignorant
@krob23274 ай бұрын
@@huatseng6037yuna Kim used to treat non Koreans appallingly.
@CharlesPepper8 ай бұрын
Best aviation channel by far. God bless.
@rnies68496 ай бұрын
you same Kitchener
@RobertCraft-re5sf8 ай бұрын
There's a super cool teardown and demonstration of a 737 internal navigation gyro on here. Definitely check that out. it spins at like 37,000 RPMs and it takes like 20 minutes to stop spinning. Amazing precision engineering.
@finlayc8 ай бұрын
This is an excellent presentation of the issue with the ADI and the INU. One of the best tech explanations I've ever seen!
@samirsilwal83418 ай бұрын
The highlight of this channel is how it simplifies complex aviation components for easy comprehension. Gold standard contents.
@sitinurbaedah95988 ай бұрын
His videos always get better these days,Keep up the good work!
@GreenDotAviation8 ай бұрын
That's the plan, cheers!
@StephanieElizabethMann8 ай бұрын
This tragedy is a stark warning to all types of work places where there is a known chain of command. All too often the power imbalance leads to one or more of the team deciding to no longer contribute even vital information to the person in charge.
@DizzyBizzy888 ай бұрын
My cousin is a pilot for United after a USAF career. We don't have much contact but I think he would love this channel. I've seen about 6 or so other channels of this type, and gotta say - Green Dot slays them all. A lot of facts and information. Most binge-able YT channel I've seen. Bravo!
@Moon_x_sun8 ай бұрын
Agree, green dot and mentour pilot are very good channels that are very like fact based in their videos :) I do Think green dot can be abit easier to follow sometimes just fyi there is alot of technical speak in mentour pilots videos (but he is also a pilot who trains people to become pilots so it makes sense)
@DizzyBizzy888 ай бұрын
@@Moon_x_sun yeah I watch that one too, it's #2 in my book, but it does not flow nearly as well as Green Dot IMO.
@DizzyBizzy888 ай бұрын
Will say that I am not a fan of those with too many actor recreations of events. Much more interested in the facts/details than any 'dramatizations' per se.
@peachworks_en7 ай бұрын
been watching the channel for a while now, i'm absolutely impressed to be able to witness the gradual improvement in production quality over the past year...keep it up!
@Elvan-x1x8 ай бұрын
Well done , there is a lot of work behind the scenes , graphic and post editing ecc I laughed when you say captain gave out to FO for not responding ATC, that’s very Irish way to say it ahah not everyone would understand it
@Elvan-x1x8 ай бұрын
@user-kz4ke8mg4r yeah ahah giving out is something a supervisor does when something is not right or for example the wife complaining the husband didn’t do all the stuff he was told to do at home . English is not my first language, I lived 4 years in Dublin then moved to Australia , Aussies couldn’t understand me when I used this term the first time, I thought was just normal English then I discovered was only a Irish slang ahah
@countesscable7 ай бұрын
I was thinking exactly the same thing. I was raised by Irish Gran and this is EXACTLY how she would speak. It’s natural to me, but I’ve only just realised what it must sound like to other people.
@mattstanley23068 ай бұрын
So sad with the hierarchy culture back then that the first officer would rather lose his life than to speak up or take control
@plan-B-8 ай бұрын
There is no room for ignorance inside a cockpit, especially inside a time frame of 56 seconds....
@apexpredatortvt8 ай бұрын
When there was no music during the intro, I was already writing a comment like "WHERE IS YOUR TYPICAL INTRO MUSIC BRING IT BACK !!!1!!!11", until, thankfully, it started playing just after the intro 😌
@280SE8 ай бұрын
Omg I can’t sleep then Mr Green Dot uploads! What a touch 😂
@keithposter55438 ай бұрын
A first class production as ever. This one never fails to shock
@GodenBoy12348 ай бұрын
The only channel where I like before the video starts.
@meldahspeight85252 ай бұрын
He is a very good narrator everything is explained he is very articulate so good to listen to.
@uncaringbear7 ай бұрын
There's so many catastrophic incidents that resulted from poor CRM. I'd be really interested in learning about cases where a crew member took the correct initiative to take control from the pilot flying to prevent a disaster.
@TabletopWorms8 ай бұрын
I literally screamed when I saw a new video from you. So excited to watch!
@danielcronk86997 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@leeaf77 ай бұрын
Former Korean Air driver here. Following the suit of many accidents involving FO feeling too much of power distance between him/herself with the CA, their flight ops manual specifically states that the pilot monitoring (in reality they meant FO not flying) can forcibly take over the flight controls from the CA after pointing out an unstable factor twice. It is an incredibly rare and almost unthinkable clause you could imagine finding it in the crew manual allowing a pilot to actively fight over the controls in-flight (considering manuals from well-trained CRM countries like the United States) but their history of crashing perfectly operational jets over CRM/Communication breakdown caused them to come up with such first-aid bandage over their historical, systemic problem. Korean's FOs had this old joke telling other FO colleagues that when the CA tries to pull "I got it" crap over an unstabilized approach, we would sneak upon to their throttle quadrant and force the TOGA power on them. It was all shits and gigles on the surface back then but thinking about it with a historical perspective, it still sends a chill down the spine realizing the clash between the western CRM concept and historical Asian hierarchy is still on-going to this date.
@mb2776Ай бұрын
after watching many incidents, I alway wondered why nobody thaught about just pushing that toga button when their captain does an unstable approach^^
@floschy_17 ай бұрын
"This crew was not a team" (17:10) This sentence hits hard
@Bxu0218 ай бұрын
I was thinking, “wow the push back tugs must be very powerful!” Before he said the push back tugs could push no further because it lacked the power to 😂
@JerseyAir8 ай бұрын
You know it's a good day when Green Dot Aviation posts a new video
@Confessor5554 ай бұрын
I suppose when everybody comes from a military culture, a junior pilot would be hesitant to say, "Hey, wtf are you doing".
@blues037 ай бұрын
1:17 That transition was crisp.
@raya748 ай бұрын
Just finished work, need a nap but definitely saved to my watch later list
@Komsmkas5 ай бұрын
I love aviation, coming to know your page has just made me a big fan, am enjoying myself ,your voice is always on point
@LucaEnzo8 ай бұрын
i love the new logo/channel intro, its seemless and slick. very noice
@TheScholar18 ай бұрын
It's bland, how can you like it?
@LucaEnzo8 ай бұрын
@@TheScholar1its ok, subtlety is lost on many people
@TheScholar18 ай бұрын
@LucaEnzo the original one had a darker feel to it. Different tastes I guess and I respect you for standing by it!
@Americarunsonduncan7 ай бұрын
Videos keep getting better ☺️. You keep the storyline interesting. I appreciate that you don’t dumb it down too much, but also make it easy to follow. Perfect videos when I’m at the gym on the stair stepper.
@samuelconnolly3478 ай бұрын
Haven't watched the video yet, but I know it's going to be another corker. Wondering if you'd consider doing a video on Air New Zealand flight 901 (the Mount Erebus disaster)? I think that could be a really interesting one.
@seasoda33196 ай бұрын
Man, im absolutely loving your channel! You really get my heart pumping 😮. I look forward to the stories with survivors!
@HD_5557 ай бұрын
0:48 this bloop sound effect was technologically speaking immersive how did you compose that??
@The-Cat4 ай бұрын
By Recording the birth of a Pokémon
@HD_5554 ай бұрын
@@The-Cat ok then. Tnx
@ChrisOchieng6 ай бұрын
Wow, I like how you covered this incident, taking into account what happened before the flight, including the previous flight and the cause of the incorrect ADI reading. Most channels only cover the Flight 8509
@toastercatx8 ай бұрын
New Green Dot drop! 😁
@nathanpeterson17836 ай бұрын
Amazing story telling. I really got chills several times. You've earned my subscription sir!
@Lordoftheflamesissketchy8 ай бұрын
Seriously well done as always. 👍
@GreenDotAviation8 ай бұрын
Thank you 😀
@captsamirj.glenn-roundtree23203 ай бұрын
I know this flight was cargo, but these videos remind me just how much trust we put into the men and women in the cockpit. Wishing everyone who flies safe travels, and traveling mercies.
@caroldawson53848 ай бұрын
Absolutely love these informative videos that are extremely well done. 👍
@JohnK20048 ай бұрын
Always excited when Green Dot uploads I get so immersed in the stories
@ghall057 ай бұрын
One thing that seems to be so common in these accidents is that the pilots seems to use as few words as possible to communicate. Why not say "CAPTAIN! YOU ARE BANKED 40 DEGREES TO THE LEFT!!!" instead of just "oy, bank". That makes absolutely no sense to me. Just freaking use WORDS and no one would have died. I am completely baffled.
@bluedistortions3 ай бұрын
I think we also need to ask why the captain was banked 80 degrees and still hadn't noticed he wasn't level. That means he was literally on his side, being held in his seat with his harness.. Passengers were dangling from the ceiling. Smart phones would have been falling like rain on those at the bottom. "Oy, bank," indeed. This captain wasn't just rude and stubborn, he was like a vegetable.
@BenCarpendale2 ай бұрын
@@bluedistortions It was a cargo flight before smart phones were what they are today, but the rest of what you say is true.
@bluedistortions2 ай бұрын
@@BenCarpendale sorry, PDAs in 1999. Jornada was a wonderful company, way better than apple, and I think they released their first smart phone that year. But anyways, technically true, thanks for the correction.
@NofewFudtefcity7 ай бұрын
Gimme the old intro back! D: The dramatic piano was the best thing ever! Where specifically do we buy the track for ourselves?
@coolfreshbody8 ай бұрын
Pls bring back the old intro sound, it was way more iconic than the new one. Nevertheless, a great video as always👍
@lowlowseesee8 ай бұрын
nah, time to move forward lol
@KaRe-m2t6 ай бұрын
I'm newly introduced to your channel, I binged watched almost all videos The quality of your videos is outstanding. Keep going!
@reminderIknows8 ай бұрын
i can't stop hearing the f word 😭😭 12:57
@neverseenbeforenow4 ай бұрын
Fr
@jonmortermusic8 ай бұрын
I've been waiting for this excellent channel to cover this accident. I'm in Essex so was well aware of the situation on the very evening that it happened. I've been to the crash site since and there are still the odd scattered piece of Sony electronics, memory chips, and other electronics fragments that surface amongst the undergrowth in Hatfield Forest
@krob23274 ай бұрын
Your government are withholding the truth of this as it’s much darker than it appears. Your county is under attack in many ways.
@kikastra8 ай бұрын
How could the clue that the ADI worked fine when in the alternate mode, not be a clue to the technician that the ADI wasn't faulty?
@walkingman91717 ай бұрын
Just like auto mechanics, many of them are not very sharp.
@Headcased11115 ай бұрын
I love this channel. I also love mentour pilots channel more because it also allows me to use my phone with the video active. Without having a premium subscription
@gabrielvitalo8 ай бұрын
Was there no "bank angle" warnig back then or it didn't work because it took data from the captain's ADI?
@ROKE_893 ай бұрын
What a lovely captain and what a beautifull working envoirment he created :)
@kevinearle89557 ай бұрын
I'm not an expert but won't an experience pilot have a basic understanding of the orientation of a plane without instruments especially when you just took off. How much ground clearance he thought he had? How wings could be level when turning? Geez this is so crazy! I'm speechless. Unnecessary deaths. Almost felt like suicide to me.
@saczikom7 ай бұрын
Could you make a video about the Smolensk Air Disaster? I'd love to see this topic covered.
@StephenLuke6 ай бұрын
RIP Park Duk-kyu (1942-1999) Yoon Ki-sik (1966-1999) Park Hoon-kyu (1961-1999) and Kim Il-suk (1954-1999)
@fractalxwee6 ай бұрын
If you haven't done so already, can you do the 1982 Pan Am Flight 759 crash right after taking off from New Orleans International Airport? It was grounded by a microburst and destroyed multiple houses in Kenner, Louisiana (the suburb that the airport is in). A man I know wasn't home at the time, but he lost his wife when the plane hit their house, and his daughter sustained severe burns. He is a regular at the coffee shop I used to work at, and I would love to learn more about this bit of local history.
@iiABoSaLe78 ай бұрын
"Oy, bank..." - The coldest reaction ever.
@plan-B-8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much Green Dot for another great learning episode. Pleez put back original intro...
@hcdenton8 ай бұрын
I wonder if there's more to this story than meets the eye? It's one thing for the captain to act to a, shall we say, less than up to date CRM procedure, but how can you not notice that the ADI is not working once you've given some aileron inputs for more than a few seconds? Also, banking that steep should be felt clearly in the cockpit, and should feel pretty different to turbulence, so I really wonder. I wonder, was the captain preoccupied somehow already on the ground? Maybe the reason he behaved towards his crew the way he did was ultimately the same had him fail to correctly judge the situation once airborne?
@bishnu5267 ай бұрын
Man I can’t express how much I liked the music that used to be there when it shows the green dot aviation logo at the start, now it’s gone. I have watched a lot of videos simply because of that music.
@TomTKK7 ай бұрын
What happened
@curtisj21658 ай бұрын
The incoming captain should have just left the switch in the ALT position for the next captain
@EnvyTheRealest7 ай бұрын
The next captain should of paid attention to his backup instruments. Hes was turning all the way left and his main instrument was not reacting to his inputs. Instead of getting a hold of himself to get back to his senses, he continued to turn left.
@mb2776Ай бұрын
in the music industry, we also "reset" our mixing desk, but at least we put writeable tape onto stuff that doesn't work.
@antman54748 ай бұрын
Very respectful analysis and conclusion of a tragic event.
@kaitai59008 ай бұрын
100% culture, because they were Koreans. Still exists today. Case in point is the Asiana crew that flew a perfect 777 into a sea wall at KSFO several years ago. Perfect clear blue no wind day. Relief pilot (former ROKAF F16 pilot knew exactly what was happening, but said nothing until he feared for his life. Culture.
@richardjohnson4558 ай бұрын
Baffling. If the Moscow-based mechanic Kim couldn’t get a FIM at Stansted why didn’t it ever occur to him to make a phone call or use a computer to access the FIM at a KAL office elsewhere? A KAL staffer at their home office or wherever he contacted could just read him the Code meaning from the FIM. Unbelievable.