EMERL IS BACK?! Sonic x Shadow Generations Dark Beginnings Prologue Teaser Discussion!

Emerl from Sonic Battle returns in the new Sonic x Shadow Generations Dark Beginnings Prologue animation... yes you read that right... EMERL... THE GIZOID... Nuts man, so many deep cuts with this game!
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[@StickmanGuides]

Quick update: apparently the reason why the timeline doesn’t have all the games Shadow appeared in is because they couldn’t fit them all in the image. Honestly though, kinda wish they just reworked the timeline image in that case lol

[@chrange9714]

@@StickmanGuides What does it matter lol. You really wanted to see 06 and Forces in a little timeline chart that badly?

[@StickmanGuides]

@@chrange9714 I mean, it doesn't really matter but they are two of his best appearances in my opinion...

[@chrange9714]

@@StickmanGuides Nothing in either of them even add to his backstory which was what they were focusing on at the panel as good as his appearances in those. If they had been in the timeline they most likely wouldn't have even mentioned them in any detail

[@StickmanGuides]

@@chrange9714 womp womp

[@chrange9714]

@@StickmanGuides Lmao what. Well that was an extremely childish response for zero reason

[@icesonic358]

They didn't put 06 on the timeline because they ran out of space, a sega rep confirmed this on Twitter.

[@johnbot64]

I guess that makes sense, but why have Sonic Boom? Not only is that game not part of the main series, but you can take Shadow out of that game and nothing would change. He had his own story in 06

[@dreamcastdazia4753]

​@@johnbot64 He has his own story in 06, Forces and rivals. He was major in the story in rivals 2 and was prevalent in sonic and the black knight and yet they include boom and not them 😂😂😂😂 He had a big role in boom but since it's non canon I just don't see the point

[@mavrickindigo]

@@johnbot64 Kirk's performance in the cartoon was hilarious

[@GalaxyEViolet]

@@icesonic358 Not having Shadow's 06 story is a big missed opportunity.

[@FlashandZach]

I love how you can from just the one scene already tell Emerl did his copy ability as he perfectly mimicked Shadows kick when they clashed. This is gonna be hype and I'm glad to see Emerl back even if its just in this short.

[@arivivith4375]

Why do i feel like emerel is the fourth playable character

[@chrange9714]

There is no fourth playable character they already confirmed that

[@JetYOSHI-vf1cb]

@@arivivith4375 I thought about that too

[@novahharold799]

​@@chrange9714 Damn

[@SonicTheBlueBlur15]

@@chrange9714wdym they showed theres a 4th one

[@JoshioE110]

@@chrange9714 maybe he could be a playable DLC character in the future.

[@TOHOREMIX]

It really ties into Gerald's final journal entry in Sonic Battle. It references Emeral's break out scene here. Ian is really doing his homework

[@StickmanGuides]

Makes perfect sense! I’m gonna go play some Battle now and really get back into it again!

[@TOHOREMIX]

​@@StickmanGuides The game is a bit of a slog, BUT the character writing and world building is some of the very best in the series. Have fun

[@denjishisui1642]

Year of Shadow is simply...amazing, peak if you must. I await the 3 episode prologue animation, sonic x shadow gens, and at last the movie. I think we can safely say SONIC IS BACK

[@StickmanGuides]

Absolutely! Well deserved comeback for Shadow and a welcome return to early 2000s Sonic stuff!

[@pugman9672]

One of my favorite details is the fact that Spawn has some influence on shadow

[@StickmanGuides]

@@pugman9672 true, I wasn’t expecting that!

[@peckneck2439]

They're literally acknowledging Sonic Battle i literally can't. We're so back GBA bros.

[@Wolfy-Kun]

It's still so cool that it brings back Emerl

[@chillihog1543]

Not suprised Iizuka said he didn’t think of taking inspiration of Vegeta for Shadow, especially since Shadow is more inspired by Mewtwo n the movie Don’t Destroy My Earth cuz of his backstory. However Spawn tho, that I never knew. I don’t know much about Spawn but so hope folks shade light on what’s similarity does Shadow n Spawn have.

[@carso1500]

@@chillihog1543 i mean, shadow does look a lot like Spawn

[@chillihog1543]

@@carso1500 Beside looks

[@stephaniejohnson5361]

To be fair shadow is nothing like Vegeta. People just think that because the writers didn't know anything about shadow so they just made him a vegeta clone

[@gabrielribeiro222]

Man i cant belive emeral is back i love thet robot and it seens like thy will dive deper on what hapened on the ark cant wait for this

[@SolarFaith]

Sick thumbnail for this video.

[@StickmanGuides]

Yo thanks! 🙏🏻

[@saltbaker8683]

If Emerl return, then does Gamma's Countpart from Battle will return as well? Wouldn't surprise If me we get to play as him from his prospective.

[@elijahthesonicfan4759]

After this shadows going back to Aldi

[@Retro_expresso]

If they ever actually bring Emerl back I will die happy

[@user-cq5kn7tc7g]

The anime style was super amazing so excited for this to happen with 3 episodes

[@Nathan11107]

9:02 "So I think this was definitely put here to forSHADOW that." Nice pun.

[@StickmanGuides]

heh heh thx

[@lgill6710]

This is so raw, and I'm all for it 🔥

[@StickmanGuides]

Yessir!

[@localdude2979]

Fitst of all i am vegeta, second of all youre not vegeta type shi when mister Shadow creator said they based him of spwan!! It makes so much sense now! Red and black, with hints of white, and green powers! Thats definitely spawn, and shadow!!

[@sethisevilone02]

That was soo peak

[@thetearev7586]

They need a fighting game, lol. Another sonic advanced battle.

[@StickmanGuides]

Real! That would be awesome

[@SonicTheBlueBlur15]

Wow, Ian flynn cooked…. Im guessing hes doing story right? If not, whoever is, needs to keep cooking like this

[@johnmehlman5195]

Last i heard all ian flynn is doing is the dialogue, which is an extremely integral part dont gwt me wrong but lets give love to the others aswell

[@carso1500]

He is the writer of dark origins yes, and is involved in an unknown capacity in shadow generations itself

[@crynosinso8324]

They can show it on an "official" timeline as much as they want. Sonic X and Boom aren't canon to the mainline games. Too many things contradict them. Also, shouldn't Sonic X Shadow Generations be after Colors rather than after the IDW Comics and Prime? I mean, you could at least split it if you want Shadow Generations to be after those, but Sonic Generations can pretty much only be after Colors.

[@OtejuTimexy-lc8vq]

Maria sounds like Sage man!

[@GulpGang]

Yo was in your live stream

[@StickmanGuides]

Yoooo! Appreciate you GulpGang!

[@rosythegardevoir]

Sonic battle 🗿🍷

[@son-of-1810]

I’m glad you understood that the history appearances timeline wasn’t meant to be a canon timeline or whatever people misunderstood it as. That would be DC levels of messed up canon right there

[@StickmanGuides]

@@son-of-1810 oh yeah no as soon as I saw the games and media listed I knew it was mostly about stand out moments in his history as opposed to what is and isn’t canon

[@DiverseDivinity13]

Emerl definetly going to be the 4th playable character

[@starpop409]

I played all the GBA games when I was little so I'm loving the return. Of emeral and sonic battle/heroes recognition

[@AlexSmith-tp7xu]

I feel like any time shadow sees those red gun goggles he should go full iron man 3 ptsd, would be an interesting angle. They haven't addressed to the best extent just how traumatized he must be.

[@tastytango4841]

I really hope silver in the future gets more of a bigger highlight as well or just an actual silver the hedgehog game

[@StickmanGuides]

Same! A year of Silver would go so hard!

[@chrange9714]

Izuka's not messing with anyone lol, if he says Shadow wasn't inspired by Vageta then he wasn't inspired by Vageta. Idk why that's so hard to accept especially when it's coming from the literal creator of Shadow. And they didn't show 06 or Forces not because 06 isn't canon or anything but because the timeline was a brief run through of his history. Not a look at every single game he has appeared in. Also Kirk's Shadow has always been great and right up there with Jason and David, he's not just now starting to get good at the role or something.

[@justcallmekai1554]

Tbh I dont think he ever was. I think its due to the well being poisoned with other actual on purpose parallels to DB like Super Sonic or Silvers backstory so ppl assume the same of Shadow when it isnt. They just have a similar archetype like Hei, Sasuke, Killua etc.

[@meta13gaming]

@@chrange9714 Spawn with Kabuki facepaint is really intriguing though🤔

[@chrange9714]

@@meta13gaming What

[@JackalKuyo]

He said Vegeta. Who the heck is Vageta?!! And no. Kirk is great and all, but his performance for Shadow makes him sound too gruff and too old. That’s nothing near to David and Jason. Even Ian is a lot better than that. I’m sorry. But no. He has done a lot better than before. But no. I just can’t.

[@chrange9714]

@@JackalKuyo Vageta is a Dragon Ball Z character and yes. Kirk doesn't sound anymore gruff or older than Jason's and David's performances. It is 100% right next to their voices, same with Ian. You don't have to be sorry lol, they're all great and do amazing Shadow voices. He's not "a lot better" he's always been great.

[@Therealones745]

2:02 I heard on twitter the reason 06 and forces aren’t on the timeline is because of running out of space.

[@Preteristboy]

Sonic Boom was on the timeline? Their shoddy timeline brings shame on all hedgehog kind!

[@Riley-rp6qv]

Emerald to me will be a boss

[@nightbrand8016]

Interesting they included Battle and not Chronicles

[@midnighttheumbreon]

I honestly do genuinely believe they wouldn't he afraid to do another Shadow Game HOWEVER 1. I don't think they would call it Shadow the hedgehog 2 and they would call it Shadow the hedgehog (insert subtitle here) 2. There would be no guns However with that said I don't think they would do that and rather they would continue to mnakje more Sonic Games with multiple playable characters including Shadow

[@tailsfrontiers1224]

WE NEED A SONIC BATTLE REMASTER OMFGGGGG THEN A SONIC BATTLE 2

[@dark_nightwing_xl2797]

Facts

[@dreamcastdazia4753]

One of my favorite sonic games

[@nithinshakthithiruppathi4028]

Sonic really doesn’t take a lot of inspiration from DBZ. Only a bit, which every single franchise does.

[@anotheryoutubeaccount5259]

That are already established tropes anyway.

[@kowabonga3552]

Don't get your hopes up Silver fans, Emerl will most likely be the 4th playable character. We gotta wait for the year of DUHMAS to be over, before SEGA starts to give a dam about Silver. 🙄

[@tiagocervera5661]

3:24 pal that came from the month of the creator and if you by any chance took speedsupersonic's sonic adventure 3 hoax video WHICH IS NOT FUNNY too seriously to make this thought of yours

[@StickmanGuides]

@@tiagocervera5661 I’m sure Spawn and antiheroes like him were inspirations for Shadow for sure, but I really feel like Vegeta also had to have a lot of influence as well given how Trunks was the inspiration for Silver, but maybe Izuka was more hesitant to say that

[@ghostspider2056]

They also ignored the Rival series on that timeline.

[@StickmanGuides]

@@ghostspider2056 True!

[@ghostspider2056]

@@StickmanGuides Hopefully they at least make a small nod to Gerald’s research about the Ifrit from Rivals 2.

[@ghostspider2056]

@@StickmanGuides Also hopefully the Rival series gets more attention if or when they do a Silver Generations campaign. Being 2 of all 3 games Silver has been playable, aside from the racing car stuff.

[@darksiders11]

Knuckles is more like vegeta than shadow.

[@StickmanGuides]

@@darksiders11 you know, honestly I kinda see that

[@YPhilou]

shadow was just mind controlled in Boom 3ds and was a just a rival jerk in Boom Rise of lyric nothing really to talk about em there tf .?

[@punkypony5165]

"Sonic Boom poor reception" Actually the Sonic Boom show was and still is well received. Its a genuinely good show. Its just the games that were bad.

[@immasword]

one of the games, the other two were okay

[@kolkagaming1234]

The upcoming shorts of Sonic X Shadow Generations looks more hype than the Lazy Sonic Colours Ultimate Shorts that were only 2 lazy & boring episodes.

[@StickmanGuides]

Oh yeah this is going to be so much more insane than the Colors Ultimate shorts, but I still think those were cool!

[@kolkagaming1234]

@@StickmanGuidesyeah they were cool. But I feel like 2 Episodes was lazy.

[@dreamcastdazia4753]

​@@kolkagaming1234 They did 2 episodes for team sonic racing and everyone loves those ones? They did one for Frontiers and Superstars. They're just shorts. It's not supposed to be serious. This shadow one is actually crucial to the lore than the others. The others aren't lazy. Shadows one just has more effort than them because it has to.

[@thermocrat8369]

They don’t show 06 or forces because they are still scared of those games

[@kowabonga3552]

They should be more worried about Unleashed and Lost World, now those game were 💩

[@chrange9714]

No, they don't show them because it's a brief run through of Shadow's history. Not a let's look at every game he's ever been in history.

[@chrange9714]

​@@kowabonga3552Uh no, neither of those games were 💩 in the slightest

[@Quarckster]

There are already two stages from the 06 game that have been remade here. That's really good acknowledgement of it, however if the main antagonist of 06 were to appear here, that would be better.

[@chrange9714]

@@Quarckster If you're talking about Mephiles technically he wasn't the main antagonist. Solaris was

[@gtcproductions4097]

They just refuse to reference Archie

[@anotheryoutubeaccount5259]

Because. It. Doesn't. Exist.

[@FlameForces6611]

Wait sonic boom is CANON WHAT!!? THAT MAKES NO SENSE

[@AyumuTheTamer]

Hmm… I want a spin off for Shadow… But I’ve been disappointed by Sonic Team way too many times for me to be optimistic… Is Ian Flynn capable of writing a good story for Shadow… yes, We’ve seen his work on Archie… Has the Sonic Team mandate add a monkey ranch to a story… also yes, let’s not forget the metal virus issue and Shadow not thinking straight due to how pissed he was towards Sonic (note: Espio was also pissed at Sonic but was able to still put that behind him in order to be able to help more). Again, I know they are capable of making a great story… but I have no idea how much “dark” story they are allowed to work with…🤔 Edit: I would love to be proven wrong with Shadow generations, the animation and the movie…🥲

[@johnmehlman5195]

Bitch this looks fantastic, whats wrong with it now? Something extremely miniscule that yall crybabys love to harp on?

[@DOYOUGOTGAMEONYOURPHONE]

something you guys keep overlooking is the fact that The guy who was yelling is the same guy who operates the G.U.N mobile from Sa2 does that mean we’re gonna have a him as a boss?

[@Stevenkadap]

Meh i just want a new standalone shadow game.

[@icesonic358]

They didn't put 06 on the timeline because they ran out of space, a sega rep confirmed this on Twitter.

[@dark_nightwing_xl2797]

Oh 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@johnmehlman5195]

Well then

[@anotheryoutubeaccount5259]

All right.

[@icesonic358]

They didn't put 06 on the timeline because they ran out of space, a sega rep confirmed this on Twitter.