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[@inkninjelani-akin4745]

“Stalker for years” rings so much heavier rewatching this now. Frightening.

[@kushkitten]

Right? It's actually creepy as heck knowing who it turned out to be.

[@scorpia9155]

I was just thinking that as well 😞

[@lottelino6407]

yeah it really does...

[@Irradiatedsea]

That's what I was thinking

[@Vixxsulphur]

Bro so much shit is coming together and I’m shaking and how it was under so meany peoples noses and how it’s here

[@brit_barr]

This is how you spill the tea without starting an entire dramagedon.

[@megn.mp4]

fr omg 😂

[@pikloo4631]

She, rather, _poured_ the tea. Very carefully

[@earthtominiryu]

@@pikloo4631 straight into the teacup, no spills whatsoever

[@pikloo4631]

@@earthtominiryu Absolutely perfect. Not even a stain inside the cup.

[@gugugaga906]

Ikrrr 🤣🤣

[@JannaShipper]

Watching this months later with the knowledge that creepshowart is Emily's stalker is chilling....

[@dayanandsalunke3120]

@TP yea but i dont think they meant it like csa did it, more like how now we know who exactly this "stalker" is. Ya get what i mean?

[@ruththinkingoutside.707]

Was thinking the same thing..

[@electrofonickitty823]

It is very concerning and I think I like Emily more, she is way more original in my eyes. I love her artwork now 😍

[@dimitriJr]

You can tell Emily is genuine about her issues because she wouldn't bring it up if it had never bothered her. As she said before she has been battling this for years. I hope that this drama can go away soon and she can rest easy without getting cyberharassed/stalked.

[@electrofonickitty823]

@@dimitriJr oh yeah you can certainly tell. I been cyberbullied and stalked, my resolution came only back in 2019, but the wounds are still there. Mine was more taunting and being told nobody would believe me. I would say if I met Emily, she'd see a bear being let loose

[@Meppity]

Fake Emily gets a yikes out of ten from me :( I'm so sorry this happened

[@-bloodstone-7038]

*yikes.* But seriously, it sucks -

[@moonbitt]

yeah but we now know who it is and its heartbreaking

[@lilydodge2374]

The audacity to do something this illegal and then pretending to be a child to get out of legal stuff. This is disgusting.

[@halasin97]

@GlodUp Hbk out of curiousity what year was everyone a good samaritan?

[@owlcat9692]

@GlodUp Hbk go to jail

[@halasin97]

@Not an Actual Dog they said something like “this is 2020 where everyone is a Good Samaritan what do you expect”

[@MoonstruckTruck]

Psychopathy be like:

[@ibbitysnoosni]

The fact that this scammer targeted a small Etsy shop--who literally said she is a one woman company--is so so upsetting.

[@AikiraBeats]

Right I really want to help her out with the paints

[@ellaixl7496]

honestly this has happened to kids where there art is stolen or they are getting scammed and their parents have to stop from doing the thing they love and that really upsets me because these kids want to show people their awesome art and people have to ruin it for them

[@lanternli1ac]

Yah

[@NoThankUBeQuiet]

Yes. I'd love to support this lady.

[@NoThankUBeQuiet]

@@ellaixl7496 what? Off topic?

[@carstennn]

Ugh to think I watched this video months ago randomly and now to hear the stalker of 10 years is possibly creepshow art? It's just awful. I'm so sorry, Emily.

[@cinnamoroll740]

I went back to this video for this exact reason. I remember watching this and hearing about her stalker. And with everything coming out against Creepshow Art. It’s so horrible.

[@briannawaldorf8485]

I was just thinking the same thing. I feel so bad for this girl

[@chillcloak]

And now with her finally exposing that her stalker might have been not one, but TWO people all along. I don’t know how Em did it. I honestly would not have had the strength or the mental capability to deal with such a stressful situation.

[@LibertyLeslie]

@@chillcloak We actually can't imagine what she went through. Especially that night she thought Anthony was in her neighborhood threatening her on social media.

[@killerbug05]

"possibly"😵

[@emuzakii1201]

Emily: I do not do *this* or *this* and also- Scammer: 👁👁✍️✍️✍️✍️

[@dentwique984]

Scammer: *write that down write that down*

[@nameless568]

Lmaooo

[@yo-en]

@@nameless568 lmfao

[@dekusbed8541]

LMAOOOO

[@sharkey4189]

Instead of saying I wish I would paint and draw like this, I'm actually trying to work towards it. Thank you.

[@citrus6589]

you got this. good luck!

[@amyartlover]

Go for it! Keep practicing!

[@CatfactsPW]

More people like you need to exist. XD

[@HWei-ju8ut]

💪💪💪

[@idontknowreally2474]

What an amazing mindset! I hope you do well ❤

[@graphitedemon]

So basically a case of "the lion the witch and the audacity of this bitch". I'm glad you were able to resolve the situation.

[@stardust4082]

*wheeze* love that

[@kit-kat9466]

This is EXACTLY what is happening in the bookstagram community. I have pages and pages of research into one specific scammer who is getting free books out of book community people on instagram. It's insane! They even act like a kid and when they're caught, they act like they're the kid's aunt and the kid is in trouble.

[@quillettt]

Really? I have my own page where my poetry's been up on. I really hope my work doesn't get stolen! I hope those books come back to their rightful owners.

[@cookiecat9448]

@@quillettt I have a page with poetry on it too and I have been kinda scared that someone might steal my work.

[@quillettt]

@@cookiecat9448 I get you!

[@purplemousemajesty]

This is so WEIRD like I just can't imagine someone acting like this. Ugh why can't people just calm down a little

[@laurenipock]

It's so horrible I have a bookstagram and luckily I haven't come across this problem but I have heard about it. It is so sad.

[@dalailarose1596]

It's really nice to have your stalker's identity out in the open now. Even if it wasn't Creepshow at fault this time.

[@beccag2758]

I feel like the matchmaker lady in Mulan “Now, _pour_ the _tea_ “

[@brunobucciarati834]

Best description ever

[@anitalong1215]

Comment of the week award goes to Becca! 😂👌

[@bored_potato]

Brilliant 😂

[@twtlifesucks6354]

this amazing XD mulan is my second favourite movie!

[@AKaq-iv3nt]

@@twtlifesucks6354 yeah just not the life action 🙄

[@nicelniwel9121]

My thought during the first conversation with the Etsy seller was: if you're an artist and you like my stuff so much- buy it yourself. If you really wanna support a small business because you are so sure they deserve it, there are enough other KZbinrs who buy paint and review it on there own cost. So stop begging. It's not like you only can get that stuff as a KZbinr for free. There is still an option to buy things...

[@diaryofasara7371]

Yeah, I had a "pay you with exposure" feeling from the emails.

[@vh6772]

I was thinking the same thing! If you love this product so much then just buy it, stop harassing people to give it to you for free.

[@grittykitty50]

Nicel, totally agree. I kept thinking that if the fake artist was so successful, why not buy the supplies. True artists will buy supplies before food and they're always interested in new stuff. Its just unbelievable to me that the real Emily has a stalker! It's such a shame that people turn frustration and laziness to aggression against others.

[@MewSakura12]

@@grittykitty50 idk about ‘true artists buying supplies before food’ but I agree wholeheartedly with everything else you said haha

[@Djiriod]

yeah, when she read that "i am praying to get these products" I thought, why not buying them then? Then its save you get them. But of course they don't appreciate the quality of the products that much, that they are worth their money.

[@mindofwatercolor]

This all happened to me too. Thanks for sharing this and for your proactive response! I know of at least 4 vendors that were contacted posing as my channel. I alerted the vendors I knew about and at least two of them sent her actual product and were alerting authorities. One was an Etsy seller but not the one you talked about, so this reaches farther than I thought. The fact that this person had a channel is news to me, so again, thanks for that heads up. The ridiculous bragging you shared in her messages as well as the fawning product compliments made my jaw drop (after I threw up in my mouth a little). No YT creators do that stuff. I'm also glad you confirmed the messages from the "mother" were fake. A vendor shared her email with me so I sent a cease and desist notice. I got an email from her supposed "mother" and thought it seemed fake but wasn't sure. The profuse apology for her "daughter" salted with hints to drop it and let her handle it were very suspicious. I told her that was all well and good but any legal recourse was still going to be taken regardless. Never heard from her again. I will share your video with my vendors and audience. The more light this has the less likely someone will try it again.

[@beccag2758]

Okay this and other verified comments are making it clear how crazy deep this scheme goes.

[@lavendertea1096]

Wow

[@devgowri]

I didn't take this video seriously until i saw YOUR comment. I've been following you for past two years.Thanks for your valuable lessons in watercolour...you are a genius..this video popped up in my recommended list and i was thinking it was just an individual experience of hers...so the things she is saying is true.. right? Wow... Scamming reached another level...

[@Pingalu2]

Damn must be so crazy to be involved in this story and find out through here.

[@mindofwatercolor]

@@devgowri Yep, totally true!

[@Alex-gj3ws]

I subbed after “I’m a mom of three, and I don’t even have time to take a shit.”

[@AddColor2Life]

So true. I remember those days.......

[@digigod0]

somone impersonates Emily. Emily's reaction... "YOU DIDNT EVEN DO A GOOD JOB!!!!"

[@josequins9099]

LOL, right? If you're gonna impersonate someone at least make them look intelligent and professional!

[@beccag2758]

I know right? If you’re going to commit fraud at least put in the effort. Like once a teacher of mine gave out fake money as rewards for good work and stuff, and you could use them to buy candy, stickers, etc. Then a kid made counterfeits and didn’t even do a good job cus theirs were black and white instead of color and used printer paper instead of card stock.

[@stardust4082]

*flashbacks to when someone impersonated chat noir*

[@narsisx]

i appriciate the fact even though this person did something illegal and wrong emily still wont expose them, just shows how respectful she is

[@gelletanas]

yeah, just sad it isn't mutual :( scamers, man, are a piece of shit, honestly

[@reisakumastan1455]

Honestly they should've exposed anonymously atleast

[@theyarnycaterpillar3563]

After they have served time in jail or whatever the law says should be done, everyone should have get a second change? 3rd? 🙈

[@Alsyoutubeaccount]

Do people actually not understand that exposing a person is bad PR? It wouldn’t be advantageous to her in any way as a huge channel to “expose” a person with under 40 subs.

[@justanormaldude42069]

@@Alsyoutubeaccount not to mention that if a case is on-going then you are not allowed to reveal information... if not you will have a defamation case on your hands.

[@springlady8337]

Is anyone else terrified by how easy this person lies? How comfortable they are with making up and going along with things? I know they say lying on the internet is easier because you aren’t face to face, but the thought of doing something like this not only gives me anxiety but straight up makes me sick. And there are more people out there like this! My mom and sisters and I own a small business and it’s scary knowing someone could try to scam us like this.

[@zycovleech6163]

There is people who literaly lie to their friends and family and tell them they have a terminal desease for money and simpathy, so this doesnt shock me one little bit.... still awful, tho

[@MyLifeInDebt]

Sociopath.

[@moonstarstories1298]

Not just a sociopath! A sociopath that commits horrible actions. (Not all sociopaths are like this scammer)

[@tikaepixwhom666]

The world is a cruel place.

[@Csaykaman]

@@MyLifeInDebt A pathological liar is kinda more accurate.

[@kevinbloodtalon9088]

I came across this video as the creepshow stuff is going on. I havent watched your stuff til now, and hearing you say "My stalker" I immediately thought "is she talking about who I think she is?"

[@TheAverageArtist]

Wow that is ridiculous. How awful. I really hope this isn't a frequent thing people will do! Those poor small businesses she might have scammed :(

[@user-fh4zk1tx1q]

Yeah, it’s honestly disgusting that they pretended to be a child to get out of trouble

[@Beexo]

@@user-fh4zk1tx1q And it's very illegal what they did.

[@spring7643]

Hopefully all art supply businesses watch this video, if they get messaged "hey the contact info on all my bios is wrong" that's a red flag to look out for.

[@Squarrel]

@@spring7643 Always make sure to contact a verified account when dealing with situations in which you might get scammed. No one should have to deal with this kind of shit and most artists will gladly send you a hi back if you're in contact on a less easy to verify platform :(

[@spring7643]

@@Squarrel yes ://

[@BoxOfficeArtist]

Wow Emily, that's insane - you handled this situation brilliantly. It's hard to believe there are people out there that would do this type of thing. Thank you so much for sharing, much respect!

[@coolbeanseater]

Why is there no replies to a comment with 2.2k likes

[@beccag2758]

@@coolbeanseater I have no idea

[@colonialp9]

Sneep Snorp

[@reaganalice6207]

"People impersonate me all the time, so I'm used to it." That's appalling. The fact that you regularly have to deal with shit like this, *and* have a f*cking stalker?! People are disgusting. You're a queen, Emily. I don't know how the hell you do it all. You really deserve so much more love and credit.

[@emilythegreat18]

It’s terrifying how easily this person lies. A year ago (when I was 12) I was on Discord as an underaged person, lying about my age. After 3 days, I couldn’t sleep. It bothered me that much about lying so I left. It didn’t even affect anyone. And yet, this person can lie so easily, scamming small businesses who just want to sell their products.

[@emilythegreat18]

@Glum Sullen Keep in mind this was a whole year ago, I’ve gained a lot more confidence in myself since then. Thanks for worrying, though!

[@MiraByler]

I had to pause this video 9 minutes in just to reflect on the fact this actually happened. I’m so sorry you had to experience someone impersonating you and scamming companies. Never would I have fathomed somebody would do something like this - especially to you because you’re so down to earth, chill, transparent, humble, and nice to everyone. Something I have always appreciated about you is your authenticity, and for someone to take advantage of that just makes my heart hurt. Thanks for bringing awareness to this. I’m just speechless. I’m glad that small business on Etsy didn’t fall for it either! Also, I love how this painting turned out!

[@sreelakshmITG]

@@slowstorms shhhhhhh

[@rse4340]

Im a big fan Mira :D

[@Maeocy]

Wow if the "fake" person loves the paints so much, why isn't she/he just buying them 🙄

[@HulloAlice]

I am SO beyond thankful to Emily for making this video and sharing our story. She really could be a straight up detective haha! I was so burned out and exhausted with dealing with the loss of my dog during all this, and Emily took care of so much. I was so angry and frustrated that someone was doing this to us! Like Emily I would absolutely never contact a business the way the impersonator did, and be that unprofessional! Thank you for sharing our story Emily, this was a wonderfully put together video and I'm very grateful for you making this video because I'm still just SO angry they got away with it in the past! I'm glad I had your suspicious self to talk to and to help me not get scammed by them MORE ugh! I really thought it was a child at first, luckily Emily is a straight super detective! Also their email to you was almost WORD FOR WORD the one they sent me! Probably literally copy and paste. Also, this art is absolutely beautiful.

[@anitadavidson1266]

I’m sorry you too were pulled into this bitches scam. I went off on a ramble posted a few minutes ago, so won’t do it again, other than to say, I am very sorry about the death of your dog. My cat is currently very unwell, leaving a feeling of helplessness. Sending you the very best of wishes from Scotland.

[@SharonCullenArt]

My channel is nowhere is big as yours or Emily’s but it is happening to me. It has happened 4 times to me that I know of. This last time I couldn’t even get the company to respond. Somehow I received all of the product on the last one. I don’t even know how they got my address. But and Etsy person was involved once, and also 2 other companies. And these were the ones I was notified about. The most recent one was just about a month ago. I believe the address they used was in Oregon. I think.

[@simonehagge8965]

These types of scams are more common than people think, but they were hitting comic cons and were old school in their approach. This lady / person / took a more modern approach. I'm extremely bummed to hear that this happened. An artist's reputation is everything especially in this digital age. The common saying of "any publicity is good publicity" that is not the case. Thankfully you both have a good base, and damn good relationships with companies for this to be exposed. Trust is hard to come by and once damaged hard to make perfect again. I have always respected how Emily has gone into providing detail, being neutral and albeit pissed the fuck off as she was, still managed to be really decent to everyone involved in how she handled the situation. Exposing them, while not being explicit shows a lot of maturity. Kudos to you girl. And one thing I don't think you have to worry about it getting too big. You are doing more than most people can do. I myself can't get in front of a camera, I have tried got excited to film it and won't go any further because of online scarring, we'll call it. You stay true to who you are. You don't have to churn out product to keep people coming to you, you don't have to post every few minutes with attention grabbing. You both are amazing at being so humble and human that in the long run you will accumulate a following that is more human than number. Keep doing you and keep being awesome. Never let someone else steal your joy and keep doing you.

[@lilimai100]

Internet 👋

[@lilimai100]

Iiiuœ

[@rukaruka6393]

I've watched this video lots of times as background noise. I still can't believe that the person who was stalking you was creepshow art! Wtf? What a twist I guess.

[@umairashraf5167]

I don't think the person in this specific story was CSA,maybe s different person

[@Jynxxx5]

@@umairashraf5167 I think the stalker she mentioned is Creepshow, not the person trying to get free stuff.

[@YouTubeSupportSucks]

@@umairashraf5167 CSA stands for child s*xual as*ault, please don't abbreviate her channel like that, it's incredibly triggering for csa victims

[@sunnysnowflake8393]

It’s so crazy to go back and watch Emily’s videos now knowing the hell she was put through by creepshart

[@megn.mp4]

thanks for not making this “tea” and trying to exaggerate the situation, I appreciate you just trying to speak out 💓

[@lain8740]

Yeah the more recent drama has kept being referred as tea and anytime I hear anyone refer drama as tea it makes it hard for me to take it seriously

[@itsgonnabemae7694]

Isn't tea just slag for drama? I'm confused with the new lingo thats coming out and I'm only 22. Also, what does bet mean? I ask people and they just laugh .-.

[@LishaGirli]

@@itsgonnabemae7694 yes tea means drama 😂

[@LishaGirli]

@@itsgonnabemae7694 but tea is more of people trying to get views and making it sound more dramatic than it is.

[@honeydew1678]

@@itsgonnabemae7694 bet is kind of like “i dare you” like if someone says you should do xyz... and that person replies “bet” it means they take it as a dare (and most of the time are joking about doing it)

[@borednatsu300]

Just wanted to mention that Emily's painting looks beautiful 😊

[@durr2740]

and satisfying to watch too🤍

[@mothman1972]

So true

[@mothman1972]

@@durr2740 exactly

[@r0achxii]

@@durr2740 true

[@daikonnene8728]

I love your pfp Yashiro

[@naenae9893]

This hits different knowing who the "stalker" is

[@Amethyst_Alien]

I am so sorry Shannon put you through this, and for so long. I've been your fan for years, and my heart is broken for you. But I'm also hella fucking proud of you. Much love.

[@umairashraf5167]

Then again,how do we know that this specific story and not some other stalker,also yeah,F**k Shannon

[@Jynxxx5]

@@umairashraf5167 I think it’s the stalker she mentioned who was stalking her for a decade, not the lady trying to get free art supplies.

[@Amethyst_Alien]

@TP Emily has already confirmed her long time stalker has been Shannon. The situation of someone stealing her identity to companies for free supplies is a separate situation to her stalker.

[@Amethyst_Alien]

My apologies in this comment are not related to this video, but to her recent release of information on her situation involving stalking and Creepshow Art (Shannon).

[@Amethyst_Alien]

@TP apologizes to you, just commented to clarify for anyone reading.

[@SpookieVonDookie]

The ‘beauty’ community could stand to take a few cues from how you handled this.

[@whitefawn4196]

👀

[@cobaltclam]

So true.

[@perfect9561]

@Idk yeah true, people who get FUELED by those kinds drama are so lame😓🤚

[@Heevvyy]

Right I declare the skin care and art community the healthiest on ytb the true crime community too

[@secondace9495]

@@Heevvyy hahahahahahahahahahahahaha.....art community bieng healthy is so....not true.

[@elixssafeplace]

When the scammer said "I have never used handmade paint" I instantly knew it was fake cause you always, ALWAYYSSS use and love the Regina Watercolor (I love them too thanks to you!!)

[@beccag2758]

Same!

[@briar1624]

I got interested in them bc of her and found out they're local to my state! There's no shop to visit, but I'm going to get a small starter set once I'm more confident with watercolors!

[@elixssafeplace]

@@briar1624 yeah go girl! ❤❤❤

[@AdamDuffArt]

Oh boy this gets my blood boiling too The idea that someone can use your name to scam others is infuriating That said - I tip my hat to your intuition and sleuthiness

[@cynthiaiserhienrhien3575]

Same I'm here like😀 yeah sure karen😑🙄😤

[@Rafaelrpaese]

Oh Wow! I didn't know my art KZbinrs have such a connection! Glad to know, you guys are from different markets, and views, and can help each other when this kind of stuff happens! Love you MUCH and also Emily! Thanks for your hardworking, inspiring, and great content!

[@briannawaldorf8485]

Holy shit the in-depth info about her stalker... anyone doubting her accusations can literally just look at her old videos and how much it affected her life. Fuck creepshow for making you go through that

[@mirrormirror444]

Why are all these scammers so grammatically challenged? Whenever I get texts from scammers from my CL or FB ads they have trouble forming coherent sentences, it’s always the biggest giveaway they aren’t legitimate.

[@use_alt_love_287]

It's to make you feel like you are smarter and that if you feel doubt, that they aren't smart enough to be able to scam you.

[@Tamaki742]

@@use_alt_love_287 Idk, if someone was trying to convince me to invest in something, bad grammar immediately screams scamming to me.

[@annekluthe296]

From what I remember being told, people who overlook the giant red flag of bad grammar will look past a lot of other red flags too, and so are more likely to be "whales" to the scammer (basically they'll only get responses that almost garentee the outcome they desire).

[@gan8849]

in terms of scammers, this being suspicious when grammar is poor is a smart decision, but please don't judge people online for their poor english in other settings! english is not the first language for everyone!

[@Tamaki742]

@@gan8849 I mean, of course not, people know the difference. Unless they're assholes, not everyone is gonna knock people down for bad grammar.

[@Artist.359.]

I sell handmade paint on Etsy and I get a lot of messages from people trying to get free paint. You think if they actually wanted the paint then they would buy it...

[@asanyr9902]

Oooh what’s your store? :0

[@pygmybean8050]

Drop your store name please!

[@peepy369]

bumping this!! please drop your store name.

[@Sara-dp5dg]

What kind of paint do you sell? The kind you use for walls or art? Oil, acrylic; water color? Would love to support your business!

[@user-hello2]

I would love to know your store name too! I’m running out of watercolour.

[@BlackrockPuppy]

Watching this after the drama....Well...

[@spring7643]

21:41 For anyone who is struggling with money: please never feel like you have to spend more than you can afford on art supplies. The best paints I have found are in the low-medium price range. I thought I would mention this for any artists who believes they can't draw without pricey art supplies.

[@kittenmimi5326]

Yeah. Like sure, if you get shitty children's paint are gonna make creating arts like 5 times more more difficult BUT! There are plenty of good quality art supplies at an affordable price. Look at online reviews etc, at people trying art supplies out. You're bound to find an art supply best suited to your price range and painting style. For example don't overdilute acrylic for watercolor effect, just get some watercolors. Or don't lay watercolor on too thickly without any water or that's gonna cost you, just go get acrylic or gouache. And stuff like that. Because while yes, the expensive stuff (copic, polychromos etc) does make a difference in quality or painting experience there's similiar stuff that does almost just as well at a way lower price range. At some point some brands prices are only that high because of the brand and not just because of quality anymore

[@phantomcakes4546]

You don't need to spend thousands of dollars on supplies. You could make beautiful art with a pencil you found on the ground or paper you got from a printer

[@PinkCreepz]

The dislikes on this video is probably the impersonator's several impersonation accounts

[@Gordgie]

😂😂😂❤️❤️❤️ gold comment 😂😂😂

[@PinkCreepz]

@@Gordgie I still can't believe people saw this XD

[@NatashaNewtonArt]

Hahaha!

[@MovieTrollop]

I’m glad you posted this. Artists don’t seem to like outting shitty people, but it’s SO IMPORTANT to show them that being shitty has real actual repercussions.

[@charlie-zs7ri]

watched this video again today after watching the video about creepshow art and i was thoroughly shook when emily mentions about the stalker here, now that we know it was her ex-boyfriend and shannon

[@cindyk7055]

She said that once she saw the screenshots, it was clear it's not her stalker.

[@charlie-zs7ri]

@@cindyk7055 i know, i just mean the actual reference to her stalker

[@nightynightshade]

I JUST noticed you mentioned your “Stalker” in this vid😱 kinda surreal to hear in hindsight after your video about Shannon.

[@toqa6735]

My sister has a small business where she sells accessories and I'm honestly praying she doesn't cross paths with any customer like that hag

[@thedesensitizedsympathizer5307]

I'm 18 and I want to sell my comics, but I have to copyright my characters first. I don't have the money to print comics and I don't know if I could kickstart cause I lack the knowledge

[@lilaciiaa]

whats her store name ? i would love to support !!

[@allyma3]

@@thedesensitizedsympathizer5307 try printing it with like fed ex? or library printers. i hope ur comics work out bcuz i also want to make comics too! good luck!

[@moonshineaudios5740]

I wanted to sell on Etsy but I know nothing about taxes. Now there’s scammers 🙂

[@sparklepaintings3833]

I’ve only just started to build a business. I would be devastated if this happened to me!

[@sadpatheticshrimp]

Good luck with ur business!

[@auggiemain]

Just make sure to always be careful!

[@StudlyFudd13]

What's your business? I wanna check it out :3

[@starfish5300]

Ooh! What do you make? I am really interested in the making of products! Good luck with your business hope you reply!

[@kyrahb96]

@@starfish5300 I’m just going by her username and guessing she’ll sell paintings

[@INTOTHEFOLD]

I love how people thought you outsourced your art. Its always obvious to your actual fans because we know about your scar on your hand (kinda always proof that it's you).

[@arshkhan815]

"Identity theft is not a joke ,Jim "

[@Kayzexx.JPEG_]

@Chloe Speight odd 1s out-?

[@kj6053]

@@Kayzexx.JPEG_ No it’s The office

[@raniahussain7411]

God I love you JUST because you like the office

[@maplecookie_125]

Sad thing is, when they are impersonating the “mom” they are listing things that their “daughter” did wrong, so they know FULL well what they are doing is wrong and that they should stop ;/

[@thebeginningchq9689]

Exactly

[@maplecookie_125]

@@kulaniwarner2424 OH MY LORD THIS COMMENT HAS BEEN UP FOR 6 MONTHS AND I MADE A GRAMMAR MISTAKE LIKE THAT??!? thanks for telling me oh gosh-

[@maplecookie_125]

@@kulaniwarner2424 woah, easy. I wasn’t attacking you I was just trying to say that I was surprised at how my comment has over 300 likes and nobody has corrected me until you! I was thanking you, I’m sorry if that was unclear. (Btw, I’m 13 years old, typing on an iPad isn’t the easiest and mistakes happen, my apologies again)

[@kulaniwarner2424]

@@maplecookie_125 You're right, I totally misread that comment and I apologize!

[@maplecookie_125]

@@kulaniwarner2424 everything is fine!! Have a great day/night :))

[@red4773]

okay so this may be really random but your "speech" on what this channel means to you really touched my heart. all that ive seen in these videos is politeness and honesty and reflecting on past actions and being better and kinder in every sentence. and especially the sketchbook storytimes, theyve helped me through rough days and made my life a lot better. there is so much beauty and thought and emotion here and i appreciate your existence so much. i just thought i had to say that at least once, that i love your work and your stories and youve inspired me and given me advice that is still helping me a bit with my struggle everyday. all the love to all of you out there, we got this. we'll be okay

[@mandel3522]

Oh i love that profile picture... :3 I haven’t played through GRIS but I’m just beyond excited about the game... the red sandstorm alone and the black bird are making such a beautiful and melancholic experience (+ ofc the music) ^^

[@red4773]

@@mandel3522 thank u >-< and same! its a wonderful game

[@mandel3522]

@@red4773 awww that’s so sweet thank you (˶‾᷄ ⁻̫ ‾᷅˵) I hope I finde the time sometimes to actually play more because I’m not that far into it as I would’ve liked... but I’m so happy to see other people appreciating the game bc it’s not that big... but just amazing *-*

[@red4773]

@@mandel3522 it really is :v and i agree, it should be more appreciated! also: take your time with that game, its so calming and im sure you'll find the perfect time for it soon :3

[@marykennedy4126]

What redmoongirl said, 100%

[@katperson8212]

Why steal from small businesses and steal someone’s identity , when u can literally go to hobby lobby and steal from there urself

[@refinnej5302]

Because they are only emboldened when they hide behind a computer screen and feel they are less likely to get caught. Probably assume that the businesses wouldn't do anything about it if they got caught. There is also a good chance that someone like that is also stealing from stores as well.

[@kittenmimi5326]

@@refinnej5302 a joke about stealing it themselves shouldn't warrant a serious reply, cmon

[@Name-dl3uq]

Wait, is the 10 year stalker Creepshow Art?

[@kubdelbb2693]

Looks like

[@Name-dl3uq]

@@kubdelbb2693 damn

[@pineappleboy1468]

Sadly, yeah

[@mizbanks4764]

Yup! Crazy with all the evidence that’s out now , smh

[@stephanie.kilgast]

Yikes, the audacity of some people. I remember small influencers writing me back when I was a small business, and I always thought that it was a bit borderline scammy anyway. At least it got sorted out! Too bad she got all that free stuff, clearly doesn't deserve any of it.

[@spring7643]

The small businesses gave police the scammer's address, so they could get the supplies back. The cynic in me says that won't happen because they would need to get a permit to enter her property, assuming she lives in a house. Usually police will only try to get an entry permit for situations where people's lives are in danger. It sucks and I wish those small businesses all the best.

[@magnoliastudios1428]

@@spring7643 that’s true

[@kylieisahazard5805]

I had to pause this video 9 minutes in just to reflect on the fact this actually happened. I’m so sorry you had to experience someone impersonating you and scamming companies. Never would I have fathomed somebody would do something like this - especially to you because you’re so down to earth, chill, transparent, humble, and nice to everyone. Something I have always appreciated about you is your authenticity, and for someone to take advantage of that just makes my heart hurt. Thanks for bringing awareness to this. I’m just speechless. I’m glad that small business on Etsy didn’t fall for it either! Also, I love how this painting turned out!

[@refinnej5302]

@@spring7643 They only have her address so they can take her to court, assuming she is in the US. They would have to take her to small claims court, which can be expensive depending on where they live and some small claims courts do not allow the winning party to get their fees out of the losing party. If it goes to small claims court and won, the judge would order the scammer to pay back the cost of whatever she was given. They don't want used products back. They can do nothing to recoup their losses with used property.

[@spring7643]

@@refinnej5302 that is so true unfortunately :/

[@Lawnie]

Ugh, I can't imagine how uncomfortable and gross it must feel to have someone impersonate you like that, and how heart-breaking it must be for those businesses to find out they lost so much. Congrats on not letting this slip by while at the same time being respectful and not trying to get this person dogpiled. Also the painting is absolutely gorgeous, and I love that masking stuff you put around the edges before doing the flowers - reminds me of the liquid silicone you can get to put around fingernails before painting them. Smart stuff!

[@TheHopperUK]

Masking fluid is really great stuff! And very satisfying to peel off the paper afterwards :)

[@7KDSP]

3:20 i guess she’s talking about Shannon

[@Mustangg]

yeah :(

[@x_dana_x]

but shannon does digital art on her channel?

[@x_dana_x]

ohhh u mean her stalker is shannon? :( damn

[@7KDSP]

@@x_dana_x the stalker she’s talking about at 3:20 is shannon

[@x_dana_x]

@@7KDSP i fell asleep watching that video, but i rewatched it and it was a HUGE slap in the face. i can’t imagine how difficult all of that must’ve been for emily. and for shannon to (allegedly) lie about having a stalker? that makes me sick

[@darkwriter_xx94]

I am a bookbinder and it takes a lot of time. I love my craft but giving them away for free isn’t something I take lightly. So glad I saw this video especially since I make art supplies because I would’ve never guessed that someone would even think to do this

[@graaceie]

This might be weird, but I just binded my first book- any tips?

[@darkwriter_xx94]

@@graaceie bookbinding is one of those things that you get better with the more you do it. So watch videos (Sea Lemon on KZbin is great to start) and there’s a great community on Reddit. They all have nice tips but as you go along you’ll develop your own technique. My biggest recommendation is to invest in the materials you use rather than any fancy equipment like a bookpress or sewing cradle. That means higher quality paper, bookboard, bookcloth etc.

[@graaceie]

@@darkwriter_xx94 Thank you!

[@swamp6825]

Hey I know this comment is old but do you have an Etsy?

[@AshleesBathroom]

@@graaceie I recommend you go check out Nerdforge here on KZbin. Her Elemental Tomes series was so good and so informative.

[@lynxlover9228]

Side note on all of this, ”Mother of 3”?!? Apparently, I've missed two of these children

[@BarqueCat2]

Should we let her in on what causes that?

[@justacatlover6029]

@@BarqueCat2 Hey there, I'm new to this channel. If I may know, what do you mean by that? Sorry, I'm just really curious^^

[@BarqueCat2]

@@justacatlover6029 Sorry, I'm being snarky. It's my immediate thought whenever I find out that someone has multiple children. Of course they know "what causes that". After a lifetime of unnecessary, unsolicited, and often rude comments /questions when people find out that I chose to *not* have children, I've developed my own set of unnecessary, unsolicited, and often rude comments / questions for those that chose to have children.

[@alexandrasdrapetomaniacmin7186]

@@BarqueCat2 I think you should keep your snarky comments to yourself but I think you already know that so that's what makes this a bit humorous. However, I love how self aware you are. You know what you did, why you did it, and didn't lie about it. We need this energy of honesty so much in our world. thanks lol ♥️

[@elin3954]

The 9 people here that are waiting for 10 hours before it premiers: 👁👄👁

[@dynogamergurl]

its probably the person whose being called out who disliked with their spare accounts

[@randomalex5119]

👁️👄👁️

[@AaaAaa-eg6wo]

Crazy how this makes more sense now

[@gigi2k326]

Doesn't it?

[@Mustangg]

i know right :(

[@cheecheecho8086]

Shannon

[@andrewn2192]

It's so strange knowing now about you talking about the stalker and shit now knowing who it is.

[@_fsg_]

im curious to know who this is

[@andrewn2192]

@@_fsg_ have you not seem Emily's most recent video about creepshow art and Shannon's boyfriend/fiance

[@_fsg_]

@@andrewn2192 ohhh, thats what you mean

[@kellyro77]

What a gross situation. I'm glad you followed up and didn't let it slide. I'm also grateful you didn't turn this into the all-too-common witch hunt that's been plaguing social media the last few years. Allow the local authorities and laws to handle the situation. Once someone calls someone else out in public, no matter how justified they may feel and/or be, the resulting lynch mob that forms is just as awful as the initial offense.

[@oddydraws4807]

Who the hell trys to take down small business for their own greed and want?!?! What was wrong with them? This is so horrible, hope the small companies can bounce back from what happened.

[@ke-tj7ff]

no one's talking about how good the painting is 😳 edit: sorry ab my inconsistent pfps 😩😩 so if u see replies regarding my pfp n it might not match my pfp rn, thats why HAGSHAU

[@possuminshirt]

it was very satisfying to watch her paint this

[@pofflet]

cause its off topic...

[@gawddayum1565]

@@pofflet But it’s in the video

[@chubbyjaydraws]

It is pretty amazing and the line work excellent 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@unluckynumber1311]

@@pofflet no, shes an art channel. the point of this video may be mainly the scam. However, if she didn’t want people to see her art she wouldn’t even have it in the video in the first place.

[@organs8917]

Now knowing that the stalker is Creepshow art is....

[@pembrokelove]

How crazy is it to hear these emails coming from “the mother“ after hearing that long thing from “the sister of the boy who was gathering information on you“. Not only is it the exact same style, but what world does she live in where people are always on their family members computers searching for evidence of deep subterfuge?

[@AshleesBathroom]

@@pembrokelove the lady scamming art supplies out of companies wasnt Shannon. The 10+ year stalker is. They weren't the same people.

[@pembrokelove]

@@AshleesBathroom omg, you’re right. The reply from the “mother” is what made me forget - its just so similar!

[@AshleesBathroom]

@@pembrokelove it really is, but keep in mind, the email was sent by a manipulative and deceitful person. Shannon isnt the only person with those traits. But I do see where you're coming from.

[@cindyk7055]

@@AshleesBathroom Not to mention that scammer was impersonating other artists as well.

[@5am_nightmares]

I really hope you can get rid of your stalker, it sounds terrible what you're dealing with

[@CuteMeSizzle]

“Contacted the FBI” I CACKLED OUTLOUD!! Justice will be served

[@tennicktenstyl]

contacting the FBI does not grant FBI taking action. I hope it does though.

[@minteclairs247]

I am terrible at art, I don’t watch art youtubers, but I still watched this entire video. I would’ve never thought that someone would have the audacity to do something like that, and I can only begin to understand how frustrating and worrying that experience was for you. Thank you for sharing this story to educate people, but in a way that doesn’t cause drama or involve “exposing” people.

[@val1971]

well now we know who the stalker was

[@MaryAlice08]

I just wanted to say there’s no shame in wanting to stay a “smaller” creator. Some people don’t want any of the spotlight, some people want a little bit of it, some people want it all. Not to assuming you’re on KZbin for the spotlight but I think you know what I mean 😊

[@natalieunknown7402]

At least we know who the stalker is now, so we don’t support them any longer

[@mizbanks4764]

Crazy I was listening to all the evidence of creep show and then this video plays next and it’s six months old and she’s talking about Shannon here !!crazy now that we know who the stalker is , it’s crazy listening to this now, wow!

[@aiya7239]

It’s the “just a- CON ARTIST” for me😭😭

[@armiahaiyannamasapol3193]

Now this kids... Is how you talk about a problem/tea and still be respectful of the person. On the other hand, shame on that person for doing such a bad thing.

[@katrinasmith5343]

Time out barn... spoken like a true parent

[@moxiemouse24]

Yep. That's how art moms can be sometimes. They just naturally have that "do not dare mess with me or my kids" nature

[@peregrineperry]

i was cringing the whole time she read what her impersonator was saying, it was very uncomfortable 😭 also, hearing "my stalker for over a decade" sent shivers down my spine after watching her creepshowart video, yikes.

[@sophielegay4104]

Oh that's so messed up! This isn't even a poor girl without art supplies, no, clearly she has tons of it! She ruined her life for so little (for her) and hurt so many people! That's sad, really.

[@MintysSketchbook]

Emily: don't expose them 🥺 Everyone: EXPOSE EXPOSE EXPOSE 💀 No but seriously guys please listen to Emily 😂💗

[@beccag2758]

I agree, mostly out of respect for Emily but also if people try to I wouldn’t blame her if she stopped making videos about the art community. Which I would be sad about and also they’re pretty important in general

[@carolinas.a2822]

I thought it was Emily Coffee, there's an artist with that name, I don't know if the art is legit or something... But yeah 🤷

[@skmo1004]

I agree with her not exposing the scammer, but I kind of wish we knew the small businesses effected. I’d like to check them out and maybe show some support if I can afford it. I totally understand why she hasn’t, this story just makes me want to help the small businesses

[@beccag2758]

@@skmo1004 honestly same. I ended up looking at homemade watercolors on Etsy for fun right after this

[@amelia26517]

Lol hi you Comment on all the videos I watch lol

[@pencilshavings2549]

It's scary knowing I watched this the first time while still supporting chreepshowart 😬😬

[@AshleesBathroom]

After watching stuff about the Creepshoe Art stuff, this shit makes my skin crawl. Especially when you mentioned your 10+ year stalker. Watching that part in hindsight just makes me feel so weird knowing that your stalker was Shannon. Gross.

[@LuckyLu602]

Same. It’s so disturbing.

[@NotNick776]

maybe its for more smaller audiences;

[@Pollitoychicken]

I wouldnt be suprised if this girl was part of the " borrowing community" on tumbler

[@slavrinenko3]

Wtf is the "borrowing community"?? I'm guessing shoplifting?

[@Pollitoychicken]

@@slavrinenko3 in tumbler there use to be a theft community. But obviously they got caught so they renamed themselves the borrowing community. After tumbler got shut down they moved to Twitter and TicToc showing off what they “borrowed” ( in other words yeah)

[@Nadia1989]

You mean the "haul" community, right. They make me sick

[@JucieBucie]

Dude I went into this video like “hmmm art drama that’s new” and your whole vibe and attitude about this situation is hilarious and you are incredibly entertaining.

[@JucieBucie]

I mean new as in I’ve never watched anything about it btw

[@AshleesBathroom]

I loved her "lasso this little piggy and take her to the... time out... barn...?" Bit. It was hilarious and had me rolling.

[@annacarthy5224]

Subbed when you were like “you don’t have to look at the screen don’t worry”

[@Noah60]

in insight, i kinda feel its about shannon when you started saying stuff about the sourcing out sketches from oversea.....

[@Noah60]

@TP okay

[@Noah60]

@TP yeah, the stalker she was talking about and she is afraid of, i think its creepshow.

[@AshleesBathroom]

@TP they're talking about how emily thinks her stalker started the rumour of her sourcing her sketches from over seas. They arent saying Shannon was the scammer, just shannon was the stalker and started that rumour.

[@H.h.creates]

I really want to jump into the art community but stalkers and identity theft scares me 😳

[@_____________a_a]

Just be careful with your info. If you wanna be really safe you should make a second email strictly for your art channel.

[@luck0717]

I second this. You can also try to hide your name (at least your last name). Also limit how many people IRL you share your art with.

[@samantha_2686]

Oh a suggestion! If you really want to prevent art theft, GET. A. WATERMARK!!! Trust me! It can possibly save you if you ever decide to start posting art on social media! (All the other suggestions here are wonderful as well) :)🙏💕 stay safe and I wish the best for you if you ever decide to post art!

[@toqa6735]

The audacity 👁️👄👁️

[@kuppikake5062]

Emily: "I'm not crying." Me: "I AM!" My heart reaches out to you emily. Youre tiny rant about having fears and being lonely, I felt that so much... And you nor alice nor anyone involved deserved this to happen and I just HOPE they get more than what they deserve.

[@HamtaroWarriors]

Here’s the deal, you do need to call scam artists and con artists out for their horrible behavior as the situation won’t get better, just worse. They’ll hop from creator to creator impersonating them and scamming businesses and sellers and continue to do that until they’re legally prosecuted. Most scam/con artists get away with it for so long because artists don’t want to give it the time of day or don’t have the funds to take the person to court.

[@youwontrememberme]

I have so much respect for you for not exposing people even when theyve made mistakes, and deal with the situation privately Its something very rare on the internet

[@Orchidlettux]

Something the beauty channels need to rely on for clout 😳🌝

[@ninneko19]

Damn Emily out here almost making me cry with their authentic unedited self

[@chrisg1499]

She's a woman...am I missing something?

[@ninneko19]

@@chrisg1499 no I don't think so! I'm fairly sure they're cis female but I dont wanna assume just in case🥺

[@chrisg1499]

@@ninneko19 umm aren't you assuming she's not cis by using they pronouns？？

[@ninneko19]

@@chrisg1499 no, they/them are also gender neutral pronouns, not just for genderqueer folk 😊

[@moca7949]

@@ninneko19 I think she's cis but it's been a while since I visited her channel, so I'm not sure ^^

[@monikawischnewski]

Fake Emily: 10/10 would scam again But seriously, it's so messed up. If I can't afford it I either don't buy it OR I put money aside each month to afford it later.

[@kittenmimi5326]

Yep. Or look for alternatives. This is way too crazy of a scheme just for some free art supplies. I shiver imagining what kind of person they must be

[@YouTubeSupportSucks]

I'm sorry about the creepshowart situation, but I did find out about your channel from it, and your art is amazing. Happy to be a new sub, your commentary and editing is amazing. Wishing creepshow a very f*ck off so you can live peacefully again ♡

[@CatandRaven]

I appreciate you posting this story, Emily! As a small business owner, it's good to reminded why it's important to be cautious and sure when dealing with requests for free product. Luckily we've only had a couple requests like that and they felt gross both times. You're awesome for doing what you could to protect those small businesses effected! ~Raven

[@nadeaner.cowley513]

To be honest the email that the "mom" sent you sounds a lot like the person who wrote the Etsy company. Just the vibe. The over explaining and hopes and prays type of vibe, run on sentences...etc. Its definitely the same person. I am 99% positive. Sadly, this type of manipulation is common. Anywho. Love your art and videos. Can't wait to see what you have coming out in the future for us here on KZbin. Much love from Tucson, AZ.

[@noleafedclovers1725]

it was the same person, thats the point lol It was one person doing all this and they got in trouble big time

[@ashildrtheswift3028]

They can't even bother with changing their typing style.

[@zookeeps1340]

@@ashildrtheswift3028 yeah even Capitalizing Every Letter, or making everything in lowercase, or 😁 adding in emojis 🙃, or I geuss mizplein everyting, or uwu(ing) it can really change how you sound

[@livs1313]

omggggggggggggggg looking back now ........

[@ANPC-pi9vu]

I'm glad I found your channel through this drama, because your art is so much better than Crap Show's art.

[@orbweaver9750]

"Don't forget to stay out of trouble!" The scammer clearly forgot to stay out of trouble. Also, you 100% deserve ALL THE SUCCESS and your channel growing and getting bigger doesn't necessarily mean you lose that intimacy. Look at Markiplier, who has over 27m followers, yet somehow manages to connect so personally with each and every person, who has been able to participate in Make A Wish, and who is just in general a positive and uplifting presence on this platform. I would put you on par with him, but for art KZbin (vs gaming KZbin, which is Markiplier's niche.) We really do need more of that.

[@alexandrasartinsanity]

I’ll never forget the small shop I work with reaching out to me and asking if I’d heard of you, because I’d watched your videos I knew it wasn’t you and so we spent a fun few hours teasing her.

[@emilyartful]

Very interesting!! She scammed a ton of small businesses, it was horrible!

[@alexandrasartinsanity]

@@emilyartful I think she probably has the screenshots if you want to see the fun we had with the scammer.

[@User-ve4bl]

the professionalisms and authenticity Emily radiates is so refreshing omg

[@TouchedbyCastiel]

Damn I didn't realize how many of the older videos were about Creepshow Art D:

[@drinoterile4155]

i just wish all the drama i was forced to listen to in high school would’ve been explained during the process of a beautiful piece of art. life would’ve been better lol