MA. v Karen Read Trial Day 8 - Christopher and Julie Albert.

[@kaylala7118]

If Read gets found not guilty she should move away from this weird corrupt little town.

[@sarah29880]

For sure far far away lol

[@JessSpouting]

I would, but someone needs to work to clean up the corruption that obviously abounds there. At this point it’s not safe for anyone!

[@Bmackie731]

She lives in Mansfield. Probably not far enough away though.

[@ginafabiani5629]

She better

[@shirleypaslay2019]

She may want to stay close for the kids. It sounded like the brother really didn’t want to have them.

[@JessSpouting]

The lawyer Nick Kolokithas and his wife, Karina, the pharmacist are definitely my favorite at this point. Such a great couple! Adorbs!

[@speaklifegardenhomesteadpe8783]

Totally agree!! I love those two! Seem like an awesome and honerable couple. 😊

[@marymaclaren9553]

I loved them. The other couple was pretty stand up, too. Which says a lot for both John O'Keefe and Karen Read.

[@KellyMorris-x6k]

I agree. They made my day. Very nice couple. True friends

[@rachaelleann9847]

Mine too, and seemingly 100% innocent, unlike the rest of the Albert family at least

[@dawnspeight9941]

Completely agree. Very cute couple. Down to earth, obviously very educated, seemed very down to earth and likable. They certainly appeared to be sincere and came across very credible to me.

[@hallieadams4225]

The police force were all intoxicated and driving..greaaat!

[@SabertoothedTiger69]

Whaaaat? Your cops don't break the laws regularly and put civilians in danger simply because they can???

[@phatpharm06]

That had crossed my mind as well. They were all blitzed.

[@HayHayPlans]

It’s sad, but that’s verrry common for police to do. My dad dated one and I saw it first hand. It’s sickening really.

[@Nasdaqbaby]

definitely what this trial is about

[@beepboop8374]

AND regularly allowing minors to do the same.

[@kymberlierobertson]

Genuinely worried I'll start saying "what if any" by accident and never be able to stop.

[@misslady582]

That's funny. Whenever I see 👀 lawyers mess up in court my brain goes "damn it Elaine!". Doesn't matter the lawyer. That's all I think about. 😅

[@podunkcitizen2562]

Jack and Carolyn? Kennedy fans?

[@danaezevely4150]

It’s like a contagious disease.

[@Ale.p10]

Also ‘sort of’

[@DebbieDuncan-m7e]

Emily, I had a total right replacement on May 6. The timing is perfect for me to watch this trial. I love watching your commentary.

[@sandrasomewhere]

I've been following this case for over a year. It's so fun to see people hearing about all of this f*ckery in real time. The reactions are priceless. Buckle up, baby!

[@JulieSeeTV]

Same!! I’m from Norfolk county! The worst hasn’t even come to light yet🤯

[@jjl499]

The best is yet to come! Higgins brings Albert, chief, Collin, fed agents, examiners

[@ash_speaker]

I've been trying so hard to stay disciplined with a jury perspective on this case, but I see comments like this and clench. It's already a burning pile of horsesh*t in August.

[@nicolemarie1819]

My best friend called me at 3 AM and immediately my stomach dropped. She isn't a night owl so it wasn't like a drunk call. I immediately called back. I didn't even brush my teeth, go to the bathroom.. NOTHING. That whole testimony is STRANGE

[@nicolemarie1819]

Furthermore, an accident had happened, and her son was involved. It was a nightmare. You 👏just 👏 know 👏

[@rachaelleann9847]

yep , she was clearly not wanting to say a lot there smh

[@Always_Thinking]

For me, any calls between 11 PM & 6 AM is very bad news. Just factual life experience!

[@wonder5487]

This whole thing about John O'keefe and the lawn issue reminds me of his friend Michael's testimony about him liking things in order and their proper place and that's why he shoveled the snow out of the open garage and closed the door for him before he left the next morning.

[@ItzMzJulez2U]

I’ve decided JO’K was a bit persnickety, a perfectionist, and maybe a little controlling. Nothing wrong with that but it was apparently well known.🤷🏻‍♀️

[@CasacaraDFP]

Which is all the more reason why I was bothered by the fact that the lawn story was a "joke" and the nickname is a "joke". Was it?? We can't ask John can we?

[@TheCarolinaAsh]

The more these people talk the more questions I have. I don't think it's supposed to be that way.

[@TheEmilyDBaker]

The more witness who testify the more clear it should become.... but I am with you, I just have more questions.

[@TheMsLipps]

It’s this case, it happened to most everyone I’ve spoken to about it.

[@ICDucks]

@@TheEmilyDBaker Vanetti and Jackson will 100% be answering all those questions for you. Keep going! I love it!

[@Karen_notkarening]

​@@ICDucksyour name is hilarious

[@Lindon_Martingale]

To be fair, many questions were answered. They just weren't questions that mattered. 😅

[@marymaclaren9553]

The number of witnesses for the prosecution that actually benefit the defense on direct testimony alone, while amusing in the moment is so maddening overall.

[@LawNerd23]

The what if anything lawyer seems to be casting his fishing rod into an empty pond.

[@marymaclaren9553]

@@LawNerd23 One might say he's casting a wide net hoping to catch something. Anything. Yesterday Runkle wondered if he hears circus music in his head all day,

[@katiehettinger7857]

Nice analogies for a fishy situation.🤭👍💜

[@marymaclaren9553]

@@katiehettinger7857 Oh my god, you made me snort laugh.

[@Rowgue51]

It seems like most of these witnesses are being used primarily to establish that Karen was the only one drinking vodka tonics. I'm guessing we're going to see a receipt at some point that shows a number of vodka tonics and they're going to claim karen and only karen could have consumed them all based on all their witnesses impeccable memory of exactly what everyone else present was drinking.

[@LadyKaollasu]

The body language of C. Albert when being cross examined about the “get off the lawn” line of questions, was off the charts!

[@SandyKnauerMorgan]

I hope to see The Behavior Panel discuss this one day.

[@mirna.lajkina]

@@SandyKnauerMorganyesss!!!

[@JulieeeB]

Starts at about 1:51:00 replay crew. Danggggg. He was big mad. 😂

[@lpeterson2336]

He is clearly disdainful toward the defense questioning.

[@tartnouveau3652]

I wonder if his kid saw something and he and the wife are trying to keep the kid out of it. He was VERY defensive about any conflict his kid might have had with the victim.

[@destroycorruption569]

@emilydbaker It is a fact and documented that Chris Albert killed a student after striking him with his car drunk. Chris Albert left the scene but turned himself in 24 hours later. His lawyer was John Prescott. John Prescott is the brother of Beverly Prescott Cannone... the judge

[@RareInTheHistory]

Whoa, seriously? That's...not good 😬

[@belemnona]

Great. What else? The DA is sleeping with one of the Alberts??? I thought suburbs in the US are more connected to the city and residents don't mingle this much

[@MaryMullarkey1977]

Why is she allowed to handle this case!?

[@MaryMullarkey1977]

I've been trying not to do any research, but.... I'm glad to know this info. Omg, EDB would be livid if she knew. I know I'm pissed. Wow.

[@LovetheLed]

In Texas- we call that a “whiff of impropriety”, and the judge would have to recuse. I saw that she was not even assigned originally to the case but took it over. Ma’am- you know you have more than a “whiff of impropriety” here🤔🙈🐐🐐🐐💜

[@beautybeagles6982]

Catch up crew here from the UK. As soon as the defence started talking to Chris Albert, his whole demeanor changed and the way he answered was completely different to when the prosecution was asking questions. That says more to me than any of his actual answers.

[@springer585]

From uk as well and catching up! I got that feeling as well

[@beepboop8374]

At this point I’m surprised we don’t know “what if any type of wood the tables at The Waterfall was made of.”

[@LovetheLed]

What if any type of music did the band play?

[@chicagodoll]

The way i just laughed, thank you so much!

[@petrasmith2346]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@beepboop8374]

@@LovetheLed what if any types of bowel movements that day

[@Eapbear96]

They were oak, which I think means that KR is guilty.

[@tartnouveau3652]

I’m usually not one for conspiracy theories but there’s a lot of evidence and evidence mishandling that makes Karen Reed seem innocent to me

[@birdie2022]

I'm on the same page

[@doeb23]

At this point I’ve seen zero evidence of her guilt and a plethora of evidence of her innocence

[@Ieezeca]

If it makes you feel better this is technically a cover-up, not a conspiracy.🤔

[@bsummers1386]

Same!

[@halfirish8056]

The more I learn about the Alberts, the more I’m looking at them as the ones who did it. Yikes.

[@ThewellbeingCompany]

Interesting that Christopher Albert called Karen Reed "the defendant"

[@Celeryreseller]

Right?? I noticed it too. Everyone else referred to her as Karen but he was always saying "THE DEFENDANT" .... sus

[@ravenzyblack]

He would know he has been one himself. Look up his hit and run homicide case.

[@wandad1799]

Replay crew! I live for Emily's and Runkles sarcastic witty commentary ! Ty for your coverage. May ⚖️ justice be served.

[@mollyschamber584]

For this trial, I rely on EDB to recite all the connections. I have never been able to remember this type of stuff in my own relationships, let alone in the media.

[@dawnspeight9941]

I caught Emily’s live today and Runkle’s tonight! Chat was cracking me up tonight! Also, I have been blessed by donors in BOTH streams with a gifted members in the last few days! I am incredibly grateful for those that gift memberships! Thank you to Snoopykins from Rinkle’s channel and idk who from EDB’s channel!! 💜💙

[@luci-ferre]

It made me want to cry when Emily said 'sorry' right after pausing and then had an aha moment of 'actually I'm not sorry. We're here for legal commentary'. Yay Emily! I can imagine during big trials when newbies hit the chat and start harping on you for how much you pause or commentate, it makes you second-guess yourself a little bit. But seeing you come back to yourself and stand true to who you are and what this channel is actually for just made my heart happy and when my heart is happy it makes me cry. ❤

[@ksjmward1998]

I love that she pauses cos I don't want to miss the trial or her commentary, and my brain can't process both at once...lol. I'm pretty sure we are all here watching her channel because we enjoy her commentary else we could just watch on Court TV

[@maciarcher3991]

Love this ❤️ Couldn’t agree more

[@katharineshade9550]

@@ksjmward1998totally

[@susiestara0387]

Please don’t hesitate to pause the proceedings and add in your commentary. I’m here for it! It’s why I watch your channel and not others. I love hearing what you think. Thanks!

[@AuntLALA]

That's why I watch her.. I like it better that she starts late so we can skip through. And I even start it a little later and listen 1.25x or 1.5x it's the only way I can keep up with the case ❤

[@karolpage4880]

Same. Sometimes I get annoyed with talking over the witnesses But There are plenty of other ways to view these trials But I do love EDB! Been a fan ever since JD v. AH ❤

[@karolpage4880]

If we didn't have EDB's awesome insight , I would be totally lost

[@Ms2unique4u]

@@karolpage4880 I have to watch the trial on Law and Crime without having her speak over the witnesses, otherwise I wouldn’t be able to understand or follow what was going on, or being said! I do enjoy hearing what her explanation is for some of the objections, etc., but it does annoy me a bit. However, to each their own! 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@ItzMzJulez2U]

@@Ms2unique4uI do that too. Being hearing impaired, I find it easier to watch on L&C, then watch EDB for the humorous and educational comments. It’s my newest obsession!😆

[@bonniegeppert3912]

The more testimony I hear I have an unsettled feeling something more nefarious is afoot and the defendant was a sacrificial lamb for the Albert family. Cross examination tomorrow is going to be gold.

[@SabertoothedTiger69]

I do wonder if she was part of it and didn't realize she was the scapegoat. There's no much going on here, it feels like a Whodunnit thriller

[@delta3244]

​@@SabertoothedTiger69I know it was accidental, but "there's no much going on" seems an apt description of how the prosecution's presented its case up to this point.

[@SabertoothedTiger69]

@@delta3244 dbsksbska fml my autocorrect actually did something FOR me this time. But yeah, I'm confused about prosecution and why they're just... Meandering? It's not even a mosey. Probably because he knows the cops massively goofed it and it's out of his hands

[@sandrasomewhere]

@@SabertoothedTiger69 what, if anything, has been shared so far that makes you believe KR was initially part of this? Genuinely curious.

[@SabertoothedTiger69]

@@sandrasomewhere sort of, maybe, the way things line up? That she dropped him off and knew where, if anywhere, to find him and that he was dead? It's not really a strong theory, but he was (apparently) cheating and she did promptly pack up and leave. I can't remember what piece of evidence made me first start to wonder. She seems smug in some parts and like she genuinely cared in others. For the most part, I don't think she did it, but something is so off here. We just got started, but it feels like we're only being shown a small part of the puzzle box. Maybe I'll go down the rabbit hole once the trial is finished

[@cupcakex]

67 calls in that time frame is *EVERY* 3.25 days!!!

[@ThatGirlT77]

I have sooo many questions about this trial... How can Chris Albert remember EXACTLY what John O'Keefe was wearing that night but not what he, himself was wearing?? And how is it that Chris and his wife remember the EXACT same details about some things but not others? Did they watch prior testimony? Chris said Karen took her glass from the first bar and drank out of it for the rest of the night at the 2nd bar. So she never ordered another drink? Did she just like their glasses or is it a convenient detail about the glass that was found? Why have 3 witnesses for the state been caught in lies on the stand?? Why lie if you have nothing to hide? Why did Brian Albert sell the home he had lived in all of his life, rehome his dog, and retire after John O'Keefe's death?? If JO lost 3 liters of blood, where is the rest of it?? It wasn't at the scene and it wasn't in their red solo cups. Where is JO's hat, shoe, and phone??? Why are all the prosecution's witnesses so sus??? Why do they try to downplay their friendships and how close they are to each other? That shouldn't be happening, just tell the truth. There are so many more but those are just today's questions.

[@katiehettinger7857]

That's a great summation. I would find her not guilty because of an abundance of doubt and we haven't finished the prosecution's case or started the defenses case. 🤭👍💜

[@nitsakalkinis4135]

I do not understand how John's family would think that Karen was involved when she loved John and the kids so much??? Very sad to see everyone turn against Karen when clearly there is a cover up by the corrupt Police Department!!

[@chicagodoll]

​@@nitsakalkinis4135nothing is clear at this point for anyone who doesnt live there or hasnt been following the case except that everyone seemed fine at the bars and it was snowing. And the canton PD apparently doesnt know how to process ANY crime scene at all..

[@jennyswift777]

Girl... you need to go into p.i. work!!! Great questions!!!

[@doeb23]

Wow the blood part thoooo

[@Jwren12]

I was truly undecided before today. I actuallu kind of thought Karen might have accidentally hit him and truly couldnt remember but after Julie Alberts testimony I believe they are all covering up for someone. IMO they are covering for her son.

[@chicagodoll]

At this point, im waiting to see if anything undoes the doubt created by the abysmal "collection" of evidence and "investigation"... because he could be guilt af and i dont know id be able to convict based on the doubt created by cops who apparently dont know what evidence tape is nd who think its acceptable to not even try to swab blood from the snow ans use solo cups instead, and dont even ziploc or label each cup..

[@luciawilke5470]

BINGO

[@delta3244]

I still consider it possible (albiet not remotely likely) that KR hit him, because (if I recall the prosecution opening correctly, which I might not) there will be expert evidence that tends to prove it, along with the tail light pieces. If that evidence is _extremely_ strong and the defense underdelivers on their opening in countering it, prosecution wins. I don't think that's going to happen because I don't think KR hit him, but I cannot rule it out yet.

[@luciawilke5470]

@@delta3244 keep in mind that the prosecution has, in the past, promised a lot and under delivered. It was claimed there is video and receipts of Karen drinking 9 drinks at the bar; that there is Ring footage of the incident; that she said these specific things at the scene, yet no one documented it at the time? We've been through the witnesses at the bar, including the bartender and been shown a receipt for $16... where is the video of her drinking 9 drinks with receipt proof?? So much of this case is based on supposition so as to pull focus away from Colin and other Alberts. Why are they trying so hard to act like Colin wasn't there after midnight, when it is getting proven that their memories are unreliable. Thank goodness we have some video to to timestamp some people leaving the bar. The defense has geofence that they'll show, if the CW doesn't.

[@delta3244]

@@luciawilke5470 Keep in mind that I find it "not remotely likely" that KR committed the crime. If the prosecution were to get me from that to beyond reasonable doubt that she did, I would be shocked. I simply cannot rule it out yet, so I must continue listening to the trial to see what I would think were I a juror.

[@fictionjunkie]

Okay so the husband and wife contradicted each other about who was asleep first, when the son came home and how the husband found out about John's death. And the husband was totally defensive lying about the nickname.

[@cytopete]

I'm beginning to think that someone else totally did it.

[@speaklifegardenhomesteadpe8783]

It made me feel like they were both covering for their son Colin. I have no reason to think this other than their testimonies. I only knew a little about this before trial. I wanted to watch this as unbiased as possible. I've learned more than the jury from social media/KZbin, but even without that, especially after today, this couple left a burr in my boot about their son and lies that only the truth could resolve. At minimum, massive reasonable doubt, at worst, their son is involved in something very awful that night and the kitchen table talk was the family plotting their cover up.

[@pistolpete8231]

​@@cytopete LMFAO...wow, all this time your eyes are finally opened? What a shocker

[@matthewa8713]

I have more questions. Their behavior and their defensiveness on the stand makes me believe there is something.

[@Lizzybee123]

Why didn’t Julie ask Colin if they saw anything when he left his uncles house! Wouldn’t you want to know if they saw the car hit him or help the O’keefe family.

[@shrekislove1509]

When the prosecution asks when Colin came home after Chris did, Chris says within 10 minutes very directly and quickly (45:10) and when the defense asks the same question, he estimates 15 minutes (1:47:44) and then says he was still asleep when Colin opened the door in which case how would he know it even happened and finally he doesn't seem to remember anything after being so certain during the prosecution's questions. The timing is very critical because it determines whether or not Colin would've seen the body on the lawn when leaving the house. I also wonder if the defense has more on the keep off my lawn stuff or whether they'll give up on that knowing the witnesses will stonewall.

[@janelfont8874]

Colin helped beat the crap out of John. That's why the timeline is so crucial and why his parents are coving up and seem so defensive.

[@LawNerd23]

I feel blessed knowing that I don't know the Albert family.

[@luci-ferre]

There were times during Chris Albert's testimony that I kind of felt bad for him but there was also a split second where I thought he showed his true colours and it was not a good shade.

[@annamelvina216]

​@@luci-ferre I just started, but I hated how he says his wife doesn't work, but then he immediately admitted that she does "some behind the scenes" stuff for the pizzeria. Like sir, that's work even if you don't pay her for it!

[@luci-ferre]

@@annamelvina216 definitely! And also, how is 'mother' not recognized as work by the man who fathered her children. My male doctor once told me 'children raise themselves' when I was expressing reluctance at having children. I was like, sir - your wife raised them.

[@annamelvina216]

@@luci-ferre Exactly! 3 boys. That's work!

[@LinaLim2u]

Hahahaha facts

[@larscederberg8564]

It's just getting better and better for each day of testimony , the whole family sitting around the kitchen table in the morning this is not normal unless you have something to hide

[@janelfont8874]

They had a family meeting to get their stories straight.

[@InevitableSecrets]

I’m feeling like Colin Albert’s parents are protecting him from something. Everything else may just be incompetence on the part of the police but this couple seems like they have agreed on a story and are protecting their kid.

[@greenthumbnail1831]

After today, I get that same feeling.

[@phatpharm06]

Yeah. When dad was so quick to jump on “wrong” child was mentioned about crossing the lawn. It perked my attention. It seemed that’s a very good possibility.

[@lisainthelab]

In fairness, if an attorney insinuated that my son did something like what he is insinuating, I don’t even know how I would react. Rage comes to mind. I don’t blame them for reacting with quickness and some annoyance. I would be a mama bear aka I’d be livid if it’s not true.

[@sandrasomewhere]

@@lisainthelab I don't get the impression David Yanetti or Alan Jackson are the kind of lawyers to make reckless accusations against a then 16 year old without having something to back it up. But time will tell.

[@Elleffe]

@@lisainthelaband what would you do if it was true? Protip: you would look like these folks

[@janelfont8874]

Julie said that she spoke to Colin when he got home that night, Chris said Colin only poked his head in to let them know he got home. Julie also said Colin asked if she was feeling better. She got her migraine while at the Waterfall Bar. Colin wasn't even there so how would he know she wasn't feeling well? I think she's lying as is Chris.

[@MShaiqable]

Yeah, how did Colin know she wasn't feeling well?

[@springer585]

I thought abt this and it could be possible that someone at Fairview mentioned to Colin that his Mum wasn't feeling well. Probably Jen McCabe

[@ravenzyblack]

@@springer585- Jen McCabe is up to her eyeballs in all this. Everyone who has taken the witness stand talked to Jen McCabe at some point. She is SUPER sus to me.

[@luciawilke5470]

Emily -- Yanetti says, "is your memory exhausted" because Lally used that phrasing first on re-direct early on in the trial. I think he says it to make a dig at Lally because it's so ridiculous in its phrasing.

[@bianca4931]

I keep forgetting these are the Prosecutor’s witnesses!!! Also, thank you EDB for treating this like it is…a tragic, real life trial. I’ve seen other co tent creators and it seems like this is being treated like a reality show’s season 1…appalling!!! Both Karen, John and their families deserved a better investigation!

[@nancypelletier7590]

Excellent defense attorney. If I ever get in trouble, I would love to have him on my side.

[@Johnny-ci8mw]

I don’t know about the jury, but at this point, I believe the defense’s story more. That’s not good considering this is the prosecution’s case. It could be possible that one of the younger Alberts killed John, and they’re using Karen to protect him.

[@mombythec]

Replay crew today, my youngest was just diagnosed with mono :( I got major "mean girl", "you can't sit with us" vibes from Julie. The way Chris and Julie Albert wanted to answer faster than a question could form from the time period of going to bed to when Colin got home was sooooo weird! Both of them had the exact same reaction and Julie only got weirder talking about Brian Jr.'s birthday donuts. Something happened that they do not want anyone to know about in my opinion. Can't wait for tomorrow!!!

[@luci-ferre]

I'm so sorry! I hope your youngest gets better soon! I'm loving scanning through these comments because I rarely do and every now and then I see a spoiler and it makes me feel dirty for knowing more than I should. Edit: not that you spoiled anything. Your comment about Julie was spot-on.

[@franceswolfaardt5165]

They give me that ‘we were the popular couple in high school and have never moved on’ energy. I bet their kids have said ‘do you know who I am?’ before.

[@kellyminga]

After cross of Julie Albert, I’m convinced something is being covered up.

[@eire711]

💯

[@LawNerd23]

And I bet he's not that old.

[@AliceM6192]

💯 I don’t think most people know the details or exactly what happened BUT they trust/admire/feel loyal/feel fear toward the Albert Family so just go along.

[@chicagodoll]

@@AliceM6192 im reserving judgment until the end of the trial, so im going with if for now... so if there is a cover up, this. People against the possibility seem to think it takes a ton of people to make a cover up happen, but it really doesnt. Ultimately, we will have to see what the evidence at trial tells us..🤷‍♀️

[@ashleymcclarren3951]

Bukakke

[@mikemck4796]

There’s a better chain of custody for the glass hopping bars, than the victims blood in police evidence.

[@maddiemalacopa]

Omg thank you sm Emily for interjecting Lalis examination. I’m not cognitively capable of understanding him/ his phrasing and repetitiveness but you shouting a direct clear question in between his helps lol

[@suziscott170]

If Colin came home from the Alberts at that time wouldn’t he have seen John on the lawn? Karen would have dropped him off my then…sus???

[@PindysFlix]

I know, so many questions, maybe Colin accidentally hit him and freaked out and left him there. So many possibilities.

[@LuvLight13]

Great point!!!

[@SissouLoveVideo]

Yeah I think thats exactly what the Defense is trying to argue eventually !

[@imreallygrover]

I love Emily’s reactions to the repetitive questions because it reminds me so much of how I felt internally during unnecessarily slow lectures in college

[@katiehettinger7857]

It can't be good practice to put the jury to sleep before you get to pertinent information with a witness.

[@janebrown3587]

Julie looks like the stress is killing her. I didn't recognize her from that photo to seeing her today.

[@andreaj2621]

She looks late 50s and she's only 48.

[@bg6b7bft]

That poor court reporter has to repeat "What if any" into her tube over a hundred times a day.

[@ItzMzJulez2U]

I read a comment yesterday, someone kept a Lally tally, and he said ‘what if anything’ 136 times! 🤦🏻‍♀️😆

[@ash_speaker]

Replay crew again. This trial is making my brain smooth. Why does every single witness act like answering a question about who they're friends with is going to get them executed? Why is the Commonwealth objecting to "how long have you known xyz?" and "what time did your son wake you?" Why are they so afraid of the timeline? With comprehensive order at all, really? At the end of every court day I ask myself two questions: What the hell is even this trial? Is there going to be a prosecution or are we just going to get a defense twice? I still do not understand why the Commonwealth brought this to court. Today I hit my limit with the judge, too.

[@wainwrightroad6100]

Where is the rest of the blood? Those gashes! And they collected a few drops in red solo cups?

[@Ieezeca]

This is my line. The man was missing 3 liters of blood.

[@LovetheLed]

@@Ieezeca3 liters? 🤯🙈🤷🏻‍♀️💜

[@chicagodoll]

​@@Ieezecahas that come in yet? Ive missed a few hours of testimony over the last week or so, but i dont recall that bsing introduced yet. (Im following as a juror, so im not looking up anything)

[@ChristopherMichael180]

@@LovetheLedholy sh*t. If that comes in with the medical examiners then that’ll be checkmate for me.

[@shkrjam84]

@@ChristopherMichael180If I was defense, I’d question the ME with the photos of the blood in the snow. “Does this look like 3L of blood?”

[@DanSlaughter85]

What if anything am i doing? I'm watching the sorta replay as it pertains to this trial as a sorta member of the replay crew. 💜😉

[@33donnally]

Her flinch when she said yes she provided child care to Courtney Proctors kids, as Lally objected, says it all!!

[@XxAudxX]

John’s friend commented on his OCD regarding shoes in the house, the snow blocking the garage door.. so wouldn’t John be pissed that people were trampling his lawn, also is that why he picked up the glass at the Waterfall to RETURN it to the previous pub !!!!!! I have questions

[@AliceM6192]

Yes. He was genuinely upset how Colin treated his lawn - walked through it, threw beer cans etc. CA and JA found this funny but I think it truly bothered OJO and this cause tension between CA and OJO

[@katiehettinger7857]

That's a good supposition about why John O'Keefe retrieved Karen's glass.

[@karolpage4880]

I was thinking that similar thing. JO being a police officer, would it seem really cool to steal from a local bar and being the glass to the next bar - and hang out with your police officer boyfriend with stolen property? Hmm

[@Btflmama]

It would be awesome if one of the witnesses breaks down and says I can't hold this charade up anymore, he was in the house and fight happened. Like a Matlock moment!

[@johnnytactical3054]

I don’t think so…those people in the upper NE are tight…like Mafia tight

[@SF-ce1qn]

Yes! To the responsible party - just confess already! Man up!You’ll feel better!

[@Chicagocubbiegirl]

Just one slip up is all it would take. Not even someone growing a conscious, but someone being dumb. Maybe a younger witness, like the birthday boy maybe.

[@89bazoly]

@@Chicagocubbiegirlthere were some small slipups, inconsistencies already. The problem is that even if Karen will not be convicted, the real perpetrator won’t be either. (if she’s innocent) such a bad/corrupt investigation

[@alisajamieson4065]

I think maybe the son Collin may have ran him over?? Idk time will tell…

[@jokada6]

it’s to the point where i’m tuning out the prosecutor as background noise because i know im not missing anything by not paying attention

[@eimyA0419]

💯

[@katiehettinger7857]

So many pointless questions. 😮‍💨

[@ArtfullyMusingLaura]

I'm only watching the cross. I figure I'll find out all I need to know.

[@delta3244]

In principle, this ought to be when I say that you really should be listening, because you should be fair to the prosecution alongside the defense, but I can't help but feel the prosecution's earned this treatment.

[@shkrjam84]

@@delta3244I’m watching on 1.5x speed during prosecution’s direct and 1.25x or normal for defense cross. That helps some.

[@Lindon_Martingale]

I didn't know alternate theories were capable of mitosis, but the prosecution is letting that petri dish sit at room temperature overnight.

[@katiehettinger7857]

Nice.🤭👍💜

[@niklin8397]

Or blood filled solo cups sit in a heated cop car 😂

[@SandyKnauerMorgan]

Why did a bunch of adults go to a bar to celebrate the birthday of a kid who didn’t want to go?

[@heartpaws519]

😂🤣🤣was wondering the EXACT same thing!! But I don't think this crowd needs much reason to DRINK!!

[@Melkeys]

I have questions!

[@andreacollins3204]

Cos they are Boston Irish. I’m Irish we celebrate a fart 😂

[@Courtney-R]

3:12:15 Look at Julie’s face after the objection, she realizes she answered too quick.

[@katiehettinger7857]

Her rounded shoulders looked drawn in and self protective.

[@maddiemalacopa]

As an internet juror, it doesnt feel persuasive for the commonwealths case when the percipient witnesses answer the cross exam evasively about his personal and professional relationships

[@mamaweezer1979]

I wouldn’t object to that hearsay either because at this point let them witnesses keep talking. It helps the defense catch them all lying

[@androckon]

The way the judge allows law enforcement officials and their family members to answer "sure" without correction, the prosecution witnesses are so snappy with the defense attorney and suddenly become SUPER FORGETFUL and straight up lie on the stand, and how quick the prosecutor is to object and judge is to sustain, even though that's appropriate, really lends to the idea of a "conspiracy/convenient outsider."

[@delta3244]

I like that the judge is stricly enforcing the idea that the jury shouldn't hear _any_ argument over objections because that argument can be prejudicial, but in this particular case, the lack of argument might well be having a greater prejudicial effect.

[@stellaallbright4750]

🎯 BINGO BANGO!! 🎯

[@ravenzyblack]

Well, it doesn’t help that the judge’d brother was once Chris Albert’s lawyer. It was for a hit-and-run homicide case in which he killed a Hungarian national, who was in the U.S. on a Student Visa.

[@aoky9179]

I’ve watched before but when yanetti is crossing the Julie, he goes to ask for a photo to show her and we hear a hot mic moment that I’m sure he just said “ get the pool picture I know she’s lying” before the mic cut out 3:19:58 around this time stamp

[@Ms2unique4u]

Best moment Everrrrr…… When Attorney Yannetti asked Julie Albert if she was aware that she had spoken with Courtney Proctor 67 times in a 7 month period after she testified she “rarely” spoke with her via phone, but would text her primarily…..check out the look 👀 she shoots Attorney Lally before answering, as if to say, HELP!!!! 😳 Timestamp ( 3:24:01 ) Take a look! 🤭 Here’s another time when Attorney Yannetti is asking her a question and again, she looks 👀 and pauses in anticipation of an objection! Timestamp ( 3:30:21 ) Take a look! 😏 If a witness is SO consumed with hoping and praying 🙏🏽 the Commonwealth Attorney will jump in and save her by objecting to a question, I would tend to believe that the person’s testimony is a bit SUS! 🤔💭

[@LovetheLed]

Lally is drawing attention to this evidence by over objecting. 1:11:39

[@annamelvina216]

Especially when there hasn't been that many objections during the trial so far.

[@heyandy.]

Emily what sort of if anything measures shall we take next time to vet the prosecution before we commit to watch a trial? 😂

[@TheEmilyDBaker]

I am going to be thinking about this.... because oh my.....

[@willcallmagic]

I wish I was awake to watch this live. Prosecution leaves too many unanswered questions. And seems to be setting up defense for a set up with all these hearsay testimonies

[@katiehettinger7857]

On the West Coast, this trial is just too early for me, too. 😉👍💜

[@karoliina6049]

Replay crew ❤

[@CatsInPyjamas]

👋

[@JessSpouting]

Same!

[@ramonajames610]

Settling in for my daily what if any torture.

[@heathervitt6060]

I want to look up EVERYTHING about this case and I’m holding off to watch it like a jury member.. but it’s killing me!

[@SabertoothedTiger69]

Big same

[@AliceM6192]

It’s a LONG rabbit hole and be warned - it’s horrifying

[@DocTJB]

Same. I knew NOTHING coming in…….and now I’m very much wondering about this long, horrifying rabbit hole!

[@katejarman4598]

Omg NO idea how you are managing that! I would call that extraordinary will power! I would combust 😂

[@heathervitt6060]

@@katejarman4598 I’m ready to tap out and start researching lol, I’m hoping court today holds me over!

[@jillette9972]

I am loving Emily's face when the witness says she dropped off doughnuts and says no to come in..LOL

[@michellehenson12]

I thought I heard the defense attorney say something about Julie Albert "lying" on the hot mic moment when he was asking for the pool photo. Did anyone else hear that? EDIT: it's at 3:18:30. It sounds like he says, "I know she's lying".

[@karolpage4880]

Oh I'm going to have to rewind

[@karolpage4880]

Yes He whispered "I know she's lying" Omg

[@michellehenson12]

@@karolpage4880 Okay, good, it wasn't just me hearing things! I was listening, but not watching, when heard that, and I gasped out loud! I was surprised EDB didn't comment on it. I was on replay so I couldn't ask about it in real time.

[@DocTJB]

Omg…..you’re right!!!

[@AJ-zz3qm]

Listening to all the good morning greetings makes me think of the tv series ‘The Waltons’.

[@JanahFrank]

I'm watching the replay and no one will read this. In rural Texas I've seen people show up to jury duty in sweats but never a witness on the stand. Did she just crawl out of bed? Oops, I commented before Emily's admonishment to the law nerds about commenting on witnesses. However, let the record show that I am willing to be held in contempt.

[@rosyb5064]

I'd say that "Very Rarely" is too Karen Reed as "Kate Moss" was to Johnny Depp... Funniest reaction & best Mic Drop moment of the trial so far for me right there!! Loved it 😂🤣😂🤣

[@LoveLunaFam]

I ordered two T-shirts from the Law Nerd shop yesterday. I am so freaking excited! I ❤️cursey words & pride lawnerd v-necks!!

[@Trin_and_Tonic]

Is it wrong that I skip ahead and only listen to cross? 😅

[@DG-os8ss]

I do the same. Direct is too boring and same old weather questions and non relevant questions at all

[@Alison1973]

Same! I can't stand hearing Lally ask questions.

[@ArtfullyMusingLaura]

That's what I am doing.

[@michellehoehne]

Same. That and Emily’s summaries.

[@MuzerlinaV]

Ditto. I’ve got to squeeze in my viewing after school while grading papers and writing lesson plans. Nobody’s got time for all of Lally’s loooong and broad questions.

[@scarlettgibb1271]

Thanks!

[@CherylJason-r4m]

Family dog in KR case was rehomed!!

[@katiehettinger7857]

But was he? Will he be produced at some point to prove he wasn't taken to the gravel pit?

[@bronwynmason3170]

I wonder what happened with the dog.. ?

[@ItzMzJulez2U]

Like Bubba Murdaugh before her, I think forensics will prove Chloe Albert lunged at JO’K’s right arm, and prove he was in the house.

[@orchidsluv]

The band is playing while we all go down on the titanic 😂

[@DuneKat]

I’d be interested to know if anyone checked if the Dunkin’ Donuts was even open on the morning of a blizzard .

[@Rowgue51]

There was no blizzard. This was just a typical Boston winter day. The prosecution is just having every witness overplay the weather to try to justify how they didn't start miraculously finding pieces of tail light until a full eight hours after they had already supposedly searched and released the scene.

[@sunshinemitch]

There was a blizzard the next day and they where trying to find evidence on the front lawn when she claimed she was there. They said they didn't leave the scene until 9 am. Doesn't make sense how she wouldnt have seen the police there.

[@J-Bird88]

Yea northern Michigander here, a typical frigid front with low Temps, high winds and when someone said a drift was about a foot, I went huh?? 😳 plenty of nights start like this and we wake up with 4-10 ft drifts or higher. Not that different of weather since I'm on 45th parallel and Boston area is 42nd. It wasn't a shut down the entire town type of blizzard where you're shoveling just to open your door. Some high drifts and low Temps and high wind is dangerous. But to not see a body in the yard you'd have to have accumulation of at least 15 or more inches because the snow gets blown

[@Jaznthree]

Wow. On replay crew finally got watch this one. Cross has been interesting today

[@OMGKitteh88]

After looking at how judge was while both sides dealt with Alberts I'm being left with an even stronger impression that she chose her side. Won't be surprised if she knows Alberts personally.

[@carolineelsson8858]

I think I read that her brother defended one in court years ago

[@carolineelsson8858]

I think I read that her brother defended an Albert in court once.

[@tiffany.Elizabeth.]

Yes!!!! I think the judge is compromised!!! I know nothing about this case before now but it’s glaringly obvious

[@AliceM6192]

There is NO WAY John asked the Albert’s to watch his property!! There was a lot of tension there for other issues in addition to the lawn

[@TheMomma2four]

I agree. And I feel like the pics were proof of that. Like, "look at us, on your lawn, what are ya gonna do about it" This feels like a fren-emy type relationship. John was a nice guy. And these people didn't really like him.

[@ravenzyblack]

Yeah, I think he would ask his friend Michael and his wife to watch their house, if anybody. Michael and Madeline(his dsughter)came over so often they even had access to the house via the keypad.

[@MsGilly]

2:05:03 so he was elected in April 2022. He took office later that year. He’s going to say that he is so newly elected that he still doesn’t know what he is in charge of even in May of 2024. Bullshit bro.

[@jimh8340]

i love your channel. your commentary is simply amazing during the examination of the witnesses!

[@ColorsFlight]

I have been hearing "what if any" in my sleep at night.

[@dawnspeight9941]

The defense certainly did their homework. I love that. Seems shady af to me

[@zsmom247]

I really enjoy watching and listening to your commentary, (is that the right word, I think so) I crack up constantly as well as get well informed. You're great🥰

[@sandygrogg1203]

Emily, I totally get it. Ever since April 3, 1974, which is still remembered as one of the worst tornado days ever, I have been the weather person in my family. I educated myself so well that I think I could be a weather person.I recently lost my two wonderful fur babies, but I always made sure they were safe on bad weather days. I’m so glad that you and your family are safe.

[@VIGirl60]

Your commentary is hilarious to help us survive Lallys repetitive questions😂😂

[@MShaiqable]

I wish the judge had let this cross finish because if Chris and Julie Albert are covering up for their son, they're going to go home and prepare notes so Julie is prepped for tomorrow.

[@jstellacc]

You have such great knowledge and hilarious commentary! I’m loving following this trial with you! ❤

[@MoeMoe__]

4:15:23 But Emily in the crime scene photos of wjere rhe body was found. You can see blood spots and a clear indentation of where the body was.. what you cant see is any natural ground cover like grass which we should be able to see IF it happened the way the state seems to be trying to lead us...

[@ellaw356]

Oh my, I did see the report online where Chris Albert at age 23 killed a Romanian student by hitting him with his car and fleeing the scene bc he was intoxicated. You can google it. My goodness so much shade in this family!

[@katiehettinger7857]

Well that's inflammatory and unrelated or not.

[@ItzMzJulez2U]

And now he’s been elected to city council.🤦🏻‍♀️

[@ravenzyblack]

I believe he was Hungarian and his lawyer…Judge Bev’s brother.

[@TheDressageAddict]

Man I wish I had seen this live

[@LakeGirl24]

Man, you think strangers care. Tjat's hilarious.

[@lauraalley8111]

I understand being tired. We were lucky and last storm midnight. At the height of the storms a nest of turkeys started to hatch out. I'm thinking of names like Rain, Hail, Storm and I'll keep going.

[@mustangmikki1947]

So glad to see you are okay and safe from the Storms & Tornadoes ! I worried about you & your family !

[@slushyslushfund9626]

Just texted my BFF of 20 years about Julia Albert saying she calls Courtney Proctor 'rarely' and then it turns out they called 67 times in 7 months, her reply: "I don't think we've called each other that many times in our entire relationship." 😂

[@KellyMorris-x6k]

I don’t think I’ve even called my parents that many times

[@cupcakex]

67 times in that time frame is appx every 3.25 days!!

[@katiehettinger7857]

This is not a good look, for sure. Now I want to see the text messages too. How much communication was there between these two women?

[@jessicacarlson2763]

I wonder if Lally has ever had to read back a transcript from his trials

[@doeb23]

😂😂

[@WlknTlknStvnHwkn]

There's a non zero chance that she didn't recall talking to Trooper Proctor's sister because she wasn't talking to Courtney. She was talking to *someone* using Courtney's phone.

[@MShaiqable]

Shit... THAT makes so much sense!

[@juliehinkel608]

Agreed and I think we all suspect who that person or maybe even person(s) might be. Screams back channel.

[@Divergent-Old-Lady]

Just ordered a Law❤Nerd t shirt for my nephew in law (niece’s hubby) is awaiting notification if he got a judgeship in London, England. His wife’s maternal grandfather was a judge at the Old Bailey so keeping up with family history.

[@LovetheLed]

Congratulations from a barrister across the pond in Texas 🎉💜

[@pamburris170]

So all these people who said they were friends with KR went to BA’s house but we’re comforting each other and not the hysterical girlfriend.

[@andreaj2621]

I can definitely see all those women being jealous of Karen Read.

[@mariawiswell2506]

​@andreaj2621 I think you're 100% correct, they were jealous/envious of KR maybe for vain reasons, maybe because of her relationship with the victim. How they talk about her sounds very "frienemies"

[@annamelvina216]

​@@mariawiswell2506 It sounds like she was rich, good-looking, in a loving relationship, and with a great career. Jealousy definitely feels like it could be a factor.

[@pistolpete8231]

Prosecutor: Objection !! Judge: Sustained. Prosecutor: Love you Judge: meet me for coffee After. Let's strategize.

[@vetnurse6162]

💯❗️

[@jasl9987]

I dont agree actually I think shes being quite far

[@pistolpete8231]

@jasl9987 not being fair at all.

[@Lindon_Martingale]

@@pistolpete8231 How would we know? I'm not saying that to be contrarian. I mean it like -- what if she's just a bad judge? I've definitely disagreed with her on some of her rulings. She also has a way of doing things that probably looks better in her head than it comes across. How do we know that it's not just that?

[@pistolpete8231]

@Lindon_Martingale "I'll allow it this time" - sounds like she's giving a freebie to the defence 🤣

[@narrrayu]

replay crew here to say that once again the prosecutor's repetition has made me zone out to the point i have no idea what points he's trying to make, so i can't imagine how the jury is feeling

[@szade3433]

This trail makes me think about the movie Copland

[@Pablo-cn4hw]

EMTs testimony has already been placed in question. Most of the defense of the last two days placed the EMTs testimony in question.

[@monkeydance3894]

C Albert definitely felt like an important witness, and the constant objections made me only lock in more. The prosecution has not proven anything to me at this point.

[@luci-ferre]

I'd just like to self-promote how proud i am that i havent done any outside research. *takes a bow

[@katejarman4598]

Hats off!! I could never 😂

[@sallycinnamon5370]

The furious quickness with Chris refused to admit ANYTHING about John not liking people being on his lawn is interesting. Seems like it was an integral part of his personality from Chris’ family perspective. But he was willing to out and out deny that as soon as he felt even a hint of risk to his kid. He would bury a body for his kid…so have no doubt.

[@wonder5487]

That also goes with what the victim's friend Michael said about him, and how he shoveled the snow out of the garage for him the next morning, because John liked things in their place.