EMINEM KING MATHERS ALBUM STORY EXPLAINED & my opinions on it (2007)

Detailed explanation of Eminem’s scrapped “final” album made during his hiatus, before he came back with Relapse. All sources linked below.
T.I. Collab:www.mtv.com/news/1558427/ti-gi...
Album Title: hiphopdx.com/interviews/id.19...
Fake theory from the time: www.gamespot.com/forums/off-t...
Hiatus Details/Overview: www.rollingstone.com/music/mu...
Shout out to Xplicit for the background music: / @xplicit101
My newest King Mathers: • King Mathers (FANMADE ...
Disclaimer: A lot of theories and opinions are used in determining details because of how mysterious this album is. Use your own thoughts to form what you believe based on what I present, not everything is a fact. This video also covers very depressing topics in Eminem’s life, I am in no way advocating that this album should have been released instead of Eminem getting clean and going to rehab, everything worked out for the better.

[@JohnBanana]

UPDATE: Here are some amendments to the video, and also, this is getting a bit outdated. We have lots of new info and 3 new leaks since mid 2019. I will make an updated version sometime in the future. *(ONE)* According to this article the song Keys to the City was going to be the lead single for King Mathers but because DJ Premiere leaked the info about it, Em cancelled that single and probably came up with a new single web.archive.org/web/20080701110532/www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.6534/title.new-eminem-produced-by-dj-premier Here is a summary/timeline: 2007 -Em is working on album by himself 2007 -December: Em overdoses and temporary takes a break from any work 2008 -January/Febuary Eminem slowly starts working on it again and gets it ready for release. Part of getting it ready for release is planning singles. He plans the single Keys to the City but in March this info is leaked, so he decides to not use it as a single. 2008 -March/April Eminem realizes how far into addiction he is and needs to get better. He puts on hold all music and goes to rehab. When he comes back he moves onto Relapse and King Mathers is gone. Nothing I said in the video was wrong, I was just missing some key details on Keys To the City. We were REALLY close to getting a mid 2008 release of this album, but instead Em decided to go rehab. *My creation* of King Mathers aims to capture the mid 2007 style/late 2006 style, in an alternate reality where he finishes the album then and quits much closer to Proof's death. It is similar to Relapse 2, how there are various stages. There is undoubtedly another reality where Eminem releases the album in mid 2008 with the single produced by DJ Premiere, instead of a different single/using the original Eminem-produced version of Keys to the City *(TWO)* I mis-spoke at around 10 minutes. I meant to say that Give Me The Ball samples I Get Money. At around 1:10 in Give Me The Ball the I Get Money sample starts playing. Basically, that's my subtle evidence for Give Me The Ball being 2007. As for Ballin' Uncontrollably, the lyrics/content/style matches Touchdown so that is again my very frail evidence for it being 2007.. Both songs are either 07 or 08, but I'm leaning towards 07, is what I'm trying to say. *(THREE)* I forgot to mention Beautiful. This song was mostly written in his 2005 rehab, and when he left rehab/relapsed back onto drugs (still 2005) he finished the song. That means he had a finished/semi finished song (with at least all the verses wrote) in 2005. The sample is ALSO from a song from 2005, which means he probably produced it then too. Idk about the hook, but we can assume 2005 too. This song would have been on King Mathers if he felt comfortable releasing it. www.theguardian.com/music/2009/may/17/eminem-urban-music-relapse *(FOUR)* A lot of info has come out after 3 new leaks (Cut back, hip hop, and Everything) The ongoing theory is that all these leaks (the new ones and the ones mentioned in the vid) were meant for a street mixtape to put out while he figured out if could make a studio album or not ("Figure out when im ready to drop, or not"). This is where he quits. At the end of the mixtape, there is a surprise ending (Its been real) where he announces hes quitting. Everything else in the video is accurate and it's very blurry between a mixtape vs final album. Maybe there were going to be both, maybe only one, but these new leaks are 100% mixtape songs (short length, he mentions dropping his album in the future implying it is not out yet/ready yet) Thanks for the comments/msgs to remind me about the above stuff!

[@markopolo19892012]

Will you do one on dr dres detox?

[@karandhaliwal6881]

james warren quick question: do you think D12 would’ve featured on this album?

[@encorefan8007]

@John_Banana , I think you did a fantastic job explaining where some of the leaked Eminem songs that were from 2007, were also on King Mathers

[@jasonmatthews4449]

Nobody want to mention this is the best theory I've read.

[@encorefan8007]

@@jasonmatthews4449 , thank you!

[@myname8635]

Encore-Relapse era Em is one of the most interesting eras for any rapper imo

[@dariozivanic4948]

One of the most interesting periods in the history of Universe

[@samueljenkins4]

MBDTF-Yeezus Kanye would like a word

[@raboullesfritas]

Nope. But there still been several (bad) songs very interesting tho

[@ten_cents3436]

Yes IMO if he released the King mathers lp and ended his career his career would be the best and saddest if u listen to Its Been Real, difficult man just the whole album is good and the reminder of the hiphop shop days are yes his 96 flows and 2005-07 flows are just too good and yh if he ended his career that way it would be good but foe his health and life nahh and I don't want him to end his career

[@theonlyonebribri]

Yeah ehh well what’s my name

[@PorcelainArmsRR]

I love this. I have always been interested in this part of Em’s life as it’s so mysterious and no one really knows what was going on. So cool, thanks John

[@keithspringston9283]

Yeah I really wanted to know what was going on with eminem during this time period. He just disappeared it was crazy.

[@gahshh]

TheDualBrainZ 2 indian or autistic?

[@phettywappharmaceuticalsll8842]

I’ve been going down a rabbit hole you’re right it’s very interesting to me as well..even in 2024 lol

[@cynical9413]

I know this album represents a bad time in Em’s life but I’m hella fascinated with it, there is something mysterious about it. In an alternate universe this would of been his last album and we’d be reminiscing on his life.

[@kimjunguno6549]

Exactly! Spot on

[@toesauce1665]

Same homie

[@Mr.Morale5]

fr bro

[@redfox2538]

Man these em years are the most interesting, mysterious and dark ones. They are the ones I most create opinions and it just brings me a very weird feeling by listening to. Crazy. And I was always trying to find someone that would be exactly the type of fan I am and I just think I found lots of it rn.

[@MiturBinEsderty]

Mysterious and dark. He would be a regular at Taco Bell and another restaurant he was around so much the workers weren’t even thrilled to see him

[@miraonthewall5284]

Yeah, me too, I always create these fan fictional theories behind this dark depressing side of Em that was buried from the public. He went thru a lot of shit during that period and started binge eating due to the drugs that’s why they knew him so much it was very depressing.

[@genesis.archives]

It's so surreal to think that he was just going to quit. Like, what impact would it have on the rap game? It's just insane to think about.

[@glx3846]

Yeah, he was going through too much, his drug addiction, his divorce, his daughter wanted to spend more time with him and didn’t want him to be away and the lose of Proof

[@dal7361]

@@glx3846most people couldnt fight that battle

[@StuffOfSonny]

The "King Mathers" title also makes sense when you take the line "Why be a King when you could be a God" from "Rap God" into consideration as an allusion to that era being long gone.

[@Kaisersaurus]

Theory: My Darling wasn't for King Mathers but was instead the song that gave him the idea for relapse, explains why his voice is semi similar to King Mathers but has more Relapse themes

[@squiddlydiddly4411]

And it sparked something in him to bring back shady...its the homeless flasher but seasoned shady that's been in remission hidden by tracksuits and bandanas finally coming out

[@firstnamemclastname9490]

You’re probably right because look at how slurred the voice is, definitely very early relapse and at the tail end of King Mathers

[@Mr.Morale5]

Might have been recorded in between King Mathers Era and relapse era maybe or in 2007.

[@squiddlydiddly4411]

We know the reason why this album never came(overdosing, not wanting to remember that period) but maybe a contribiting factor is he didn't wanna retire after treatment cause if he released KM after rehab, it'd basically be him saying goodbye when at that point, he wanted to stay in the game and there's 50 Ways then there's presumably the my darling demo. He probably listened to every song he made between 06 and 07 after getting out and hated em but fucked with my darling and 50 Ways(wish 50 Ways made relapse) and so maybe he got inspired to bring shady back but as a grizzled serial killer so boom, relapse is birthed.

[@Sinfulsoul2004]

Also “Beautiful” & “Careful What You Wish For” were also on “Relapse” and also made from 2007

[@firstnamemclastname9490]

He figured to throw 1. My Darling, which was at the very end of KM 2. Careful What You Wish For, the best of the drugged songs 3. Beautiful, definitely the best out of anything he did that 4 year period and potentially his career recorded at his most sober at the time while in rehab.

[@OWSooBocaJ]

Eminem told on some interview that he did songs worth of 2 to 3 albums on that time period (05-07) but they all were subpar to him

[@henrychinaski5938]

It's crazy that he made revival and didnt feel that way lol

[@tobimontana61]

victor keeps it 100 that’s because revival is a lyrical masterpiece...

[@henrychinaski5938]

@@tobimontana61 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@tobimontana61]

victor keeps it 100 what is funny? If you think otherwise your opinion about lyricism or rap in general is irrelevant anyways.

[@henrychinaski5938]

@@tobimontana61 Revival was utter garbage from the beat selection to the lyrics and anyone defending it knows nothing about lyricism. Calling it a lyrical masterpiece is fucking hilarious

[@angryhobo212]

What would have been awesome is if everything had gone the same way, Em shelved King Mathers and recorded Relapse, but he decided to troll everyone. He announced his retirement and released King Mathers, but then he released Relapse the next week. That would have been hilarious :D

[@pauldavidson8800]

Why be a king when you can be a god.

[@TheSkibidiLooksmaxer]

“God Marshall”

[@diogolima1976]

I think Beautiful would have been on King Mathers too

[@JohnBanana]

Diogo Lima Yes i did forget to mention this. The song was started in 2005 rehab when he wrote it

[@JohnBanana]

S l i m S h a d y ツ I’m done with you. Get off my channel. All you comment is saying no and i’m wrong. You have no idea what you’re talking about. Yes. Beautiful is 2005. I dare you to try to argue, because i’ll prove you wrong

[@asimghaffar8148]

@@JohnBanana He wrote the first half when he was in rehab and then finished it when he came out but he recorded the song in 2007.

[@JohnBanana]

Asim Ghaffar Nope www.reddit.com/r/Eminem/comments/d1h6d7/something_we_all_overlooked_with_the_song/

[@asimghaffar8148]

@@JohnBanana So he wrote AND recorded it in 2005?

[@deltajee7_org]

Encore-Relapse is one of the most interesting Eminem periods for me... And for many ... And this is obvious.. why am I mentioning this

[@susheelpatwal2997]

He kinda confirmed it on castle in revival

[@Nzimports]

its fair to assume he has hundreds of new tracks an albums worth of raps from all these years of life gone by

[@Jared_Wignall]

I remember hearing about this quite about in 2007. Because nothing came of it I thought it was people just speculating and making things up because they wanted a new Eminem album, but the fact there’s quite a bit of evidence to support an album being made during his hiatus is really cool to hear. Thanks for the video man, keep up the great work!

[@regentwarrior3569]

I feel like the first verse and the chorus of my darling was from 07 because it sounds like he is on drugs but the last 2 were made after he got clean it was probably an unfinished song that he had and wanted to finish

[@daniela.7910]

How about the leaked song "Everything"? Is that song part of the King Mathers album?

[@jayfeela3414]

Yes, it sounds like his 06/07 voice

[@chase2193]

This came out before it

[@tej_9963]

That song sounds dark af

[@rav6274]

That song is so sick by far my fav em era and 09-‘10

[@cosminochea7115]

You should make a King Mathers EP with the songs that were leaked

[@JohnBanana]

Yes, I can make an alternate version that is 100% accurate using only leaks, but yes it will be short.

[@jackleslie7391]

This is awesome, you did some pretty neat investigating. Thank you for making this, I was really interested in this era of Em's music, and this video was perfect to help that out.

[@CosmicAlgorithm]

If you listen to Castle and Arose from Revival, he writes a letter to Hailie (sorry if spelt wrong) in 2007 which is when he made King Mathers. He wrote “I’ll put out this last album then I’m done with it” and King Mathers was supposed to be his last album. Crazy to think that he still remembers King Mathers to this day...

[@mula8431]

yes, its crazy that he would remember a whole ass album he recorded????

[@berryvanaelzen564]

​@@mula8431 lmfao 🤣🤣

[@Mr.Morale5]

​@@mula8431he was on drugs during the recording of this Album. 2 months after getting sober he scrapped the album In June 2008 and made new batches of songs. He did not remember anything.

[@thecomicsario]

I freaking love this video, I rewatch it every so often.

[@euanjackson811]

My darling is a strange one as the content would seem like 2009 but he sounds like 06/7 with his voice and also no accents. Is it possible it was recorded the same time as the re up before king Mathers maybe for curtain call/ re up in the video when I’m gone he had black hair and the re up he states he was off drugs.

[@JohnBanana]

Yes, you're right. The first verse 100% has 2007 *content/sound*, and verse two and three only have 100% 2007 SOUND *but not content*. I think it was made in 08 before he fully committed to Relapse style, he was in a transitional period.

[@euanjackson811]

John_Banana but on songs like underground and forever he doesn’t use an accent and doesn’t sound like his 07 voice.

[@JohnBanana]

Shady 123 No, it’s similar, but at the same time very very different. Underground is a lot of shouting and Elevator same thing. Both were made in 2008-09 in his Relapse sessions. They sound slightly similar because literally a year ago he was doing king mathers type songs. sorta like how MMLP is similar to devils night or TES and some songs on Encore sound slightly similar (we as americans)

[@checklbe]

Em's hair is brown

[@NojoNinja]

@@JohnBanana ik this is old but I believe the first part of my darling was made during 07. And the second half was during him making relapse. He can choose what voice he wants. Just listen to Castle from Revival, he literally sounds identical to Encore / Toy soldier Eminem other than the newer microphone.

[@JackalGoldKick]

Great video. I always had a idea of covering scrapped albums I'm glad to see someone did it. King Mathers is a very interesting album I would have liked to hear it.

[@michaellee8815]

This is a really well done and researched video. Who knows what’s true and what’s not, but still well done man 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@DietonightLiveforevr]

I consider yours to be the closest version We have. There are likely way more songs made that We have no idea about, but at least We have your fan album. I love your site and appreciate the research.

[@whatisbludtalkinabout]

I hope relapse 2 comes out someday

[@MrBigCal]

Great video as always!

[@deltajee7_org]

Awesome work man!

[@CoryCacioppo]

Great video . Saw it years ago...had to Google search to find it. Great job

[@distorteddemons2736]

I’m pretty sure I heard that the first verse on My Darling is from 06/07 and the song was never finished then the second and third verse were recorded around the relapse era to finish the song

[@splashbertothaballer2583]

Agreed for me I would think that too cuz he brings up paul wall and bubba in my darling but also on G.O.A.T seems he had the same content so maybe relapse deluxe songs were the only two songs he decided to use from king mathers.

[@splashbertothaballer2583]

Oh and beautiful pretty sure that was a king mathers track as well

[@mr.cringe2533]

All of my darling was recorded after he became sober. Most of beautiful and most of underground were the only songs recorded during his addiction.

[@sergiovictoria8345]

This video is so good omg

[@anaveragefilmmaker1422]

Dude i love the name though. For a final album, king Mathers sounds amazing

[@unequivocalsuffering2734]

It’s been real is probably the saddest thing I’ve heard

[@romanbellic6048]

fr

[@officialFredDurstfanclub]

Fairly late to the party here but this is a really interesting and well put together video

[@sorenkennie-guillaume4279]

Genius used the artwork for this album and basically track list Lol Not trying to snitch

[@ItsWowa]

Really interesting - thanks!

[@CoryCacioppo]

great job on this video im a huge eminem fan ive heard all these songs but didnt realize it was all an actual album but the way u put them together it all makes sense to me now... great job

[@bennyfoster]

I dread the day when it comes but my hopes in the crushing days after Eminem dies out of no where something appears along the lines of “The Vault” a final album of all the unreleased songs he’s made or partially finished

[@Anakin_0YT]

Eminem please officially drop this shit 😭

[@Chris_Shoaf]

Everything and My darling were also ones for the project

[@qsmooth7805]

Go behind the story Of Loyal to the game and how Eminem got involved in producing Tupac Music after his death

[@Anakin_0YT]

I listened to the full album and it’s amazing

[@AshleyS994]

Eminem -everything has leaked now to

[@thefirstguyjaek255]

I feel like that “unreleased” T.I. Feature is partly that touchdown track and the song “Everything” since Em references T.I. at the end of the song like he’s about to introduce his verse next

[@googleman3255]

im just curious how much music from the era in general exists because in public enemy number one on the re up eminem says: "I might be seeing rockets light up the night sky Right outside of the window of my living room And if they do you can say goodnight and bye bye to them iTunes If I don't try to record as much before I do The plan is to have as many in the can as I can As I stand before you in this booth a walking dead man" and im wondering if these songs that might exist will ever be officially be released if em dies or finally retires

[@thatcallofdutygamer2823]

Hopefully it’s not for many decades but maybe one day we’ll get King Mathers in some form if they release his unreleased music for posthumonus albums

[@thenumber1JT]

Finally feels like Calling it Quits he should release it

[@STARK0181]

I really wish he'd release it

[@Anonim_Sirket]

Also Beutiful was written in 2005, and ‘Em Would have completed the song in 2007 for the King Mathers LP

[@firstnamelastname2328]

you have a beautiful voice johnny

[@firstnamelastname2328]

i am overnandpage55

[@g4g3_k95]

i hope when em retires all of his unreleased stuff drops finished or unfinished

[@firstnamemclastname9490]

In terms of my best guesses for the recording timeline: Careful What You Wish For would be early 07 since it doesn't mention the news coverage Em was receiving for his deteriorating health and physical appearance which as it received coverage in news articles I have no doubt a recorded mention of it exists. You could also make the argument that 7 years would be '06 technically because he got signed in 98 but that's kind of weak evidence since most of his fans view 1999 as the year he blew up. 50 Ways was whenever in 07 he bought the car. The Apple could even be 06 because his speech is less slurred and he's speaking aggressively. Note the Bass Brothers worked on bringing back the MMLP aggressive style in 2006. Syllables is early 2007 because of the photos we know were taken at the studio in February. GOAT/It's Been Real idk but the voice and wanting to quit make me say later on in this timeline. Give Me The Ball is 2008 because of the filename and this is just a theory but the song would've been used as a hype song for the playoffs which were happening at the time. I Get Money is 2007 because that's when the orginal song was recorded but tbh I think the reason it was made was because Em was actually going to feature on the track at one point. So Em recorded his verse separately and sent it to Fif before the song was done and it wasn't included. It would also be probably included on both albums like how Crack a Bottle was initially going to be on Before I Self Destruct. Ballin Uncontrollably is late 2007/08. Superbad came out in October 2007 which the outro is just chipmunk versions of scenes from the film. Em also said that he watched the movie religiously while getting clean so it could be 2008. Difficult is 2006 or 2007. It's hard to pinpoint because he sounds very depressed (2007) but that could also be because it was recorded just after he died (2006). Everything (Which because it leaked around the same time I believe is somehow connected to Cut Back and Hip Hop) was likely late 2007. It doesn't directly say it which is why it's uncertain but he tells T.I. he's going to be alright which I assume is a reference to his gun charge in October 07.

[@TheSkibidiLooksmaxer]

Basically agreed but Em bought Kim the car in 06 and Em made 50 Ways after she bashed him on live television in early 2007.

[@clumzyone6011]

I wish he would release old songs and just call it shady from the vault or something along those lines.

[@michaelcurrie5059]

I think all the unreleased songs will be put out after he passes away .. Sad but I think that's how it will go

[@hunterrandy]

the net was so crazy back than

[@djblur]

the song with TI is called 'Whatever You Want It to Be" not whatever you like....your link even says "The one we finished is 'Whatever You Want It to Be,' " he added. "It's saying, 'I'm a man, if I ain't nothing else. Before I'm a rapper, before I'm anything else, I'm a man. If you don't respect that, it can be whatever you want it to be.' " .so theyre definitely completely different songs

[@JohnBanana]

What? At 13:12 I literally show that. I'm aware lol. You gotta read buddy

[@encorefan8007]

Even before I Get Money was confirmed to be on King Mathers by the leaks of Everything, Cut Back and Hip Hop. When I watched this video I knew from the start that I Get Money was EXTREMELY likely to have been on the King Mathers mixtape, since Eminem says he hasn't fallen off and he's coming back with his final album that was meant to release in 2007 before his OD, after his OD but before Eminem got clean King Mathers was pushed to a mid-2008 release before Eminem decided to go into rehab and King Mathers was cancelled in favour of Relapse. That's just in my thoughts, but many people can decide if it's true and many will agree with this statement. I also think that the King Mathers mixtape was an scrapped and unfinished album that was never fully completed

[@user-qd7pc7th7z]

imagine if he overdosed and died after dropping king mathers. that woulda been so sad yet powerful

[@Dybo87]

Who's to say he didn't? There's a Tom Macdonald song called Cloned Rappers...

[@michaelpoltermann2665]

Would love a definitive answer on that subject

[@eminemfan50098]

Tom Macdonald is a joke

[@myname8635]

Those GMV Guys facts he’s a complete joke lmao

[@Joshua.161]

@@Dybo87 tom macdonald😂

[@jumpboys1408]

You really know your Em facts.. Great video .. since you're so knowlegable..let me ask you about an Em song that seems to have vanished.. There was a leak of Crack a Bottle, that i heard BEFORE the album came out. On the leaked version, Em rapped all three verses: his, Dre's and 50's, in their styles, like a filler.. Have you heard this? Does it still exist?

[@capchareal]

The Re-Up Was made as a studio album in 2006

[@shadydude8676]

Are you gonna make a new King Mathers playlist with everything and hip hop on it?

[@JohnBanana]

Already done

[@shadydude8676]

I can't find it on yo channel yo

[@JohnBanana]

@@shadydude8676 Its on my website which is linked on my channel page but ill just give it here shadyfanalbums.wordpress.com/

[@shadydude8676]

John_Banana thanks

[@shadydude8676]

I can't download it is there a place I can just listen to it

[@maniacodepresiv0]

"50 ways" is very interesting, but the album is not the best of Eminem. I'm glad you decided to put this project aside. The interesting thing about this album is how scratchy and exhausted Em's voice sounds in some songs.

[@bananaowner_real]

King Mathers would’ve released in Jan 2008 if Eminem hadn’t gotten distracted with the OD and rehab and eventually got clean and started rapping again. At least that’s my theory

[@KadonGish-BTM]

For some of the songs on this album, I wonder why he didn't release them, because some of them were not that bad.

[@whatisbludtalkinabout]

Either he forgot, or just felt that people would not like it, kind of like the relapse 2 case...

[@chaseedits27]

Brandon Newell or like with dre and detox

[@KadonGish-BTM]

@@whatisbludtalkinabout it's probably the former.

[@JPH3]

I thought syllables was much later, there’s a picture out there that was captioned “eminem recording syllables” in September 2008

[@JohnBanana]

Yeah thats false or a rumor someome nade up, the picture didnt have a caption and if it did someone added that in. Cashis confirmed on IG he remembers recording his verse in Dec 2007, whereas based on Itseratime's research and the lyrics he believes they had the session in feb 2007 (forgot the reasons). but regardless, the song is 07 in sepetember 2008 eminem was already recording relapse. His relapse sessions began in july/august, so unless you think syllables was recorded at the same time as Crack a bottle or 3am

[@JPH3]

@@JohnBanana yeah just figured that out, my syllables was recorded in feb 2007

[@thatcallofdutygamer2823]

His verse on Peep Show was actually pretty catchy besides the shitting on your chest part at the end

[@GoofyNewfie13]

I love difficult

[@DeeCee365]

i feel like the songs "We as Americans" & "Public enemy #1" was supposed to be on King Mathers also. Just a theory haha what do you think??

[@CER10]

DeeCee We As Americans was released on the deluxe edition of Encore, so I dont believe that would be released on King Mathers, but there is a possibility that Public Enemy #1 was on it

[@thekillerklebb]

We as Americans, Ricky ticky tock, and love you more we’re all supposed to be on the original version of Encore. But they all got leaked. So he released them as bonus tracks, and then recorded My First Single, Rain Man, and Big Weenie. Which is why the album got such a bad rap, was because he recorded these 3 songs in like a couple days just to fill the album… and they’re not the best

[@toesauce1665]

Who made these remixes of the king mathers beats in the background? Theyre really good

[@TheSkibidiLooksmaxer]

@Xplicit101

[@EudoxiaMysteries]

3:54 yoo he used the lines from 2007 in his album revival "arose":" I'll put out this last album, then I'm done with it One hundred percent finished, fed up with it I'm hanging it up, fuck it!" thats sick

[@molink3123]

He’s talking about that song lol it’s not from 2007

[@squiddlydiddly4411]

@@molink3123 bro castle was basically gonna be on king matters cause the lyrics to it is the letter he wrote right before he od'd in 07 but 10 years later he re-used the letter for revival, that's his point and it makes you wonder if em still thinks about this album considering it was gonna be his last ever

[@molink3123]

@@squiddlydiddly4411 this is bullshit lmao it’s song with a certain theme. He wrote the song as if he was writing letters to Haley. You can’t be that dumb lmao

[@mrgreenjeansgenetics]

Whatever you want it to be is on KZbin

[@gluckspilz1205]

I think your right about Careful what you wish for. But was his overdose in December 2007 eben on the News?

[@JohnBanana]

Yes, December 25 2007, which was like 6 days ago from 2008. So basically 95% of the year he was doing drugs and making music, which is when he was planning King Mathers

[@Joshua.161]

@@JohnBanana but wouldnt the album have been released in 2008 then?

[@JohnBanana]

@@Joshua.161 well it never came out so we never know. currently i put my fanmade version at 2008 yes

[@Joshua.161]

@@JohnBanana oh ok thanks

[@bigsuge2630]

this album was going to be one of the best pistol poppin ft cashis still one of my favourite ever

[@extraterrestrial8888]

Ballin uncontrollably and I get money were actually confirmed though I can't remember where

[@JohnBanana]

This vid is outdated yea, we confirmed I Get Money after we found out that it transitions with a new leak in 2019 (Everything), which also transitions with Cut Back -> 50 ways. But ballin uncontrollably still remains a mystery. i personally think it was made for King mathers

[@il100374]

Give Me the Ball uses "I Get Money" not Ballin' Uncontrollably. Great vid though!

[@il100374]

My bad just saw your pinned comment

[@JohnBanana]

Ay good shout, yup i mispoke in the vid. Glad you saw pinned comment too, also, enjoy this drive.google.com/file/d/1Qoykj6edVPaJOdsyCQsQhFLtH1EmOr4T/view it uses new leaks

[@jesuspernia8031]

Eminem lowkey had some great work in his worst moments.

[@Chris-ir8cs]

In that alternate universe, he didn't survive that overdose and we got this album instead. I'd say that's a solid career. But also what every rapper did. Died before their prime. I'm glad he got clean and improved himself. I probably would have given up on hip hop. And I'm sure most people would have too. It would be a cursed genre where artists don't live long. Eminem picked himself up and inspired future generations. He must have looked in the mirror and had that realization. Without Eminem, Dre would have released his final album too and bow out of the industry. Dre would still be alive and probably would have revived his own career, but with less impact. But this timeline is better because Eminem made him a billionaire. That other timeline is really dark, but the world would have adjusted.

[@smileysuburban8146]

even though this era is so interesting im glad this album never came out due to how horrible his life was at this point

[@wendymackley8032]

This guy was on 100000000000000000000 valiums and vicodins along with ambiens

[@DoublEE.12]

Im a bit late but what do you mean with writer's block?

[@JohnBanana]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Writer%27s_block

[@bercedes-menz859]

I was thinking man. If em gets a „Real“ Biopic and it’s showing everything from infinite to relapse it has to start with his hiatus. Just think about it for a sec. Em records some tracks and he is stressed out. He works on king mathers but can’t find new ideas. And then he overdoses and collapses down. And then the Titel is revealed. This would be a great intro. And the movie is a flashback of his life. The flashback starts with him overdosing in 1996 when infinite flopped.

[@JohnBanana]

Remember tho, he didn't overdose in 1996 he just swallowed a bunch of pills and threw them up right away bc it made him sick, so he wasnt able to digest the pills. Luckily. Because if he didnt throw them up he probably wouldve died

[@BaawBee]

Is that Dylan Sprouse at 2:42 ?

[@maxiepattie85]

The More You Know Kids DO NOT LEARN FROM THE INTREDUH WHAT NOW

[@adamsteel4098]

The days of a lot of valium and vicodins......

[@mrq.1236]

I’m a huge Kanye fan and he’s a bit more public with his life so there’s tons of videos on his unreleased/“lost” albums and leaks and I always wished there was videos with that high quality content about this album. And this was very well put together thanks for this. It’s crazy how he literally disappeared in 2007-8. Like rarely any features or even media appearances. 2015-17 was also a very inactive era. I remember waiting for news back then. Even if he’s trash now I’m grateful he’s very active now

[@Z3RO5286]

King Mathers has shit songs. If encore was made a year shortly after "The Eminem Show". then it would have been good. It would have been up with MMLP, The Eminem Show, MTBMB, SSLP. I am so happy king mathers never got released, the songs and the beats in the songs in king mathers don't sound great except for "Everything" and "Difficult ft. Obie Trice".

[@Joshua.161]

Its because of the leaks encore was shit. Not the time

[@professionalmemeenthusiast2117]

From the bits I've heard, King Mathers would have been an undisputed 4th classic. While I'm glad we got all the songs and albums after it, Em would have had an untouchable discography if he'd released it and retired.

[@JohnBanana]

Hear the full recreation of the album it's on my website to download: shadyfanalbums.wordpress.com/ but it's interesting. If this album came out, Em would only have SSLP, MMLP, TES, Encore, Curtain Call, Re-Up, and King Mathers. King Mathers would go below the first 3 but above Encore definitely.

[@Z3RO5286]

@@JohnBanana King mathers is worse than encore and the eminem show honestly. The eminem show and mmlp, mtbmb were actually much better than king mathers.

[@Joshua.161]

@@Z3RO5286 whats mtbmb doing on that list?

[@3ree6ixmafia28]

Can sombody tell me what happened to syllables it got copyrighted and wiped of youtube

[@KidofAk]

I think if it has jay z in it. It'll be taken down. People do put it on,but it don't last long

[@whiteh0pe434]

Eminem made enough songs in 2007 for 4 albums so yea he had writers block for sure

[@JohnBanana]

are u being sarcastic? What he means is those 4 albums worth of material are not substantial or meaningful. Anyone can write a silly or random song, but does that mean its good? Good lyrics? good sound? key example: Balling uncontrollably. Writers block does not necessarily mean you cant write songs at all, it can mean you cant write a song good enough or a song that suits what your vision.

[@hjerneStimulanz]

you are a real american

[@JohnBanana]

UdgaardsLoke we as americans us as a citizen

[@hjerneStimulanz]

@@JohnBanana that's my favorite song! And I mean it. That is actually my #1 song. We as Americans. Greetings from Denmark

[@hafizurmahdi5284]

Well, He may drop the album when he retires.

[@franciscoelgamer100real8]

An album with the name of King Mathers, maybe, but I'm sure he isn't going to release the 2008 King Mathers

[@hafizurmahdi5284]

@@franciscoelgamer100real8 No not exactly that 2008 one ofcourse. But yeah, use all the scraps from their. Complete a never completed project

[@franciscoelgamer100real8]

@@hafizurmahdi5284 With 2008 King Mathers I meant that, if he uses 50 Ways, Difficult, Hip Hop Shop, Everything, Syllables, G.O.A.T. and the other leaks it would be weird, King Mathers was (probably) finished, but it wasn't released because Eminem changed his mind on retiring, now in 2021, the beef with Mariah Carey ended in 2009 with The Warning, Never Gave a Fuck (Less) and the skit before that song would be just nonesense, he already did You're Never Over for Proof and in his own words, Eminem said Difficult was just depressing, 50 Ways, he apologised to Kim on Bad Husband, The Apple and It's Been Real shouldn't have disses to his mom due to the apologies in Headlights, I Get Money had some jabs to Kanye, he said on Recovery he was ashmed for almost dissing Kanye so I guess he was talking about that song, Syllables is a diss to the music back in 2007, all I need to say is "Kamikaze" so if he does something like King Mathers it should be like Recovery or something similar to that style

[@hafizurmahdi5284]

@@franciscoelgamer100real8 📃😐👍

[@franciscoelgamer100real8]

@@hafizurmahdi5284 ?

[@aleksisuuronen5969]

King Mathers should have fat Eminem on the cover since it was at that time

[@JohnBanana]

Yeah i mean this king mathers fanmade art is literally from 07 hes way chubbier in it, zoom in on his face

[@aleksisuuronen5969]

@@JohnBanana it is shot so he extends his neck so it looks leaner and also his gut is hidden by darkness and the pose not to mention that they most likely used photoshop on top of it as they ofcourse do for these kinda photoshoots. They really worked hard to make him as slim as they could even without excsessive photoshop tho. Could be that he was still gaining weight too but the peak of it pictures make him look noticebly differend. He said he started to only eat junk food after Proof's death because of depression and started to realise how heavy he was getting when in McDonalds some dude was to his friend hey is that Eminem and the friend said naah he is way too fat and Em said to it what the fuck and somewhat soon after that actually confronted the situation because it was starting to get so humiliating for him and make his depression worse. Dude would order from drive thru and eat alone in his car because of other people. And that was only the food problem, the drug problem was the main issue really ofcourse.

[@JohnBanana]

@@aleksisuuronen5969 yep exactly, he did a whole Shady LTD photoshoot in 2007, so my best guess is they pressured him to get into shape as best he could, but he definitely wasn't able to look as good as he did like in 2002, so they made sure to get really good angles/lighthing/use photoshop so he looked more normal

[@smokesignal3432]

2:42 Zack from ZACK AND CODY:?????

[@smokesignal3432]

probably...next pick is with WILLIAM but I mean...huh?

[@DungTran-li2wn]

Do you know if "Detroit Basketball" was supposed to appear on King Mathers? I just heard it from a Rosenberg interview.

[@markostojanovic9648]

I think that this album was even better than the eminem show and mmlp

[@debieldebiel7072]

Nah

[@Joshua-ff1re]

That wasn't Eminem on the King Mathers Lp, it was his empty shell

[@Z3RO5286]

No. King mathers is trash and lifeless and sounds so passionless. Atleast revival and recovery had passion and had life to it even even tho recovery and revival were ass because of the beats and corny bars and bad choppy stop to go stiff tight flows.

[@Joshua.161]

@@Joshua-ff1re still good stuff

[@Joshua.161]

@@Z3RO5286 everything is an insanley good song

[@cp-nn4st]

Keys to the city was realsed on the re up its called public enemy 1 so he's wrong on this!

[@JohnBanana]

so im assuming you didnt read the article posted in 2008 (2 years after the re-up) about eminem recording a "new single" called keys to the city.

[@cp-nn4st]

Still. Nothing

[@JohnBanana]

have no idea what you're talking, keys to the city has nothing to do with public enemy #1?

[@cp-nn4st]

@@JohnBanana I tell you what write out the lyrics on here for both songs then?

[@JohnBanana]

@@cp-nn4st you’re a fool mate

[@Z3RO5286]

MTBMB is actually billion times better than King mathers so. Yeah.

[@Joshua.161]

No😂

[@Joshua.161]

Everything>Mtbmb, side b, kamilaze, revival

[@youneshajjaji5762]

Je suis français merci

[@vilsvideos9076]

Derien

[@RealOGMudbone]

I just looked up all those songs that were confirmed and they are all terrible, except careful what you wish for

[@Joshua.161]

No