Emmert 6A Toolmakers Vise Restoration: Making the Missing Swivel Jaws

[@miketoney1660]

i wish i could have met you in person Keith, i live about 15-20 minutes away from WHF, i do enjoy your videos.

[@johnmanning4577]

I continue to really appreciate your offerings, Mr Keith. You not only model excellent craftsmanship but also respect for your audience with your wonderful editing and commentary. I like the homage you pay to the technology of 150 years ago and share the evolutionary process over hundreds of generations. Thank you so much...jm

[@warrenjones744]

I do like that vise. Be handy as pocket in a shirt in any shop

[@tinkmarshino]

I have had a very hard month.. right now my wife is in for her second surgery and I am besides myself.. But sitting here watching you make these little things has brought me (strangely enough) a calm I have had not felt for a while.. I am rather amazed at this and thought I would just share this with you.. and tell you how much I truly appreciate your channel.. Carry on!

[@rexmyers991]

You amaze me with your ability to easily operate each of your machines as if you do it all day long in a factory setting

[@matthewhelton1725]

Ginger the Shop cat is indifferent... but I liked the subject and video: it's always great to see a restoration or "return to function" on these old machines and tools!

[@Farm_fab]

Ginger is doing cat scans and has to be indifferent, or unbiased.😀

[@BedsitBob]

@@Farm_fab Later on, the dog will pop in, and do a lab test. 😁

[@kevinwillis6707]

that radial drill is a thing of beauty.

[@BravoCharleses]

You might consider making some rings that fit over the round bosses to protect the bosses from getting marred if you want to use the round "jaws."

[@ericpaul4575]

Kieth could even make a set of soft jaws and rings for the pins as well.

[@linasvelavicius330]

I agree, in the 2:44 image of the vise you can see one of the round bosses heavily deformed, I assume it is from clamping. A set of hard and soft rings make sense.

[@ericm8811]

Hey Keith Rucker! Theoretically you could make 2 more rotating jaws with 3 unique sides of different spaced pins or curves or??? Thanks for all the entertaining vids! Ride ride ride!

[@windyhillfoundry5940]

Always thrilled to see my iron machined👍

[@paulcopeland9035]

Your "iron" is always very machinable. Excellent job, Sir!

[@mdouglaswray]

NICE work on those castings! You and Clarke have done some wonderful stuff together.

[@ianbrooks6816]

Love the old machines

[@nigelleyland166]

...and shortly after completion a job crops up needing specialist vice jaws, keith is wihing he had made jaws three sided, sloted one face and left the rest plaiin ready to machine for those special jobs! you just know it is going to happen lol, thanks again for the great content.

[@spaight711]

The pins and or jaws will also let you clamp something *open*. That same ring can be clamped by spreading the pins on the ID. Or imagine you've got a large piece of thick walled square/rectangle tubing... Such a fun vise.

[@maggs131]

That vise is possibly the holy grail of vises. I saw one for sale on Ebay for $3000. Sounds a bit overly salty but it might sell

[@ypop417]

Keith another fine video. Nice to see an old tool brought back to fully functional use.

[@LikeDotAudio]

A+++

[@randallparker8477]

A friend of mine has the same vice and he fab'd several different shaped "shoes/jaws' like yours. He is a bike builder and tubing fabricator so he made his own tooling. Good job Windy Hill and of course Professor Rucker!

[@CornishMiner]

Always a pleasure to see the Carlton radial drill put to work!

[@singleshot2218]

Good job Keith! Take care, God bless!🙏🎚🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾

[@aner_bda]

Man, that has turned into quite a handy and versatile little vise. Vey nice!

[@frankward709]

That's gonna be very handy little vice Thanks for the video

[@nobuckle40]

Always enjoy seeing the restoration processes you go through. I was a bit surprised to see so much rust on your machines. Thanks for sharing.

[@Pjuklarven83]

A small ball detent and a groove in the jaws could be a nice addition to keep the jaws from falling of the bosses when not in use.

[@wally5733]

It was good to see you operating the machine not just watching the cutter work ! Thanks

[@jobkneppers]

Keith, nice job as always. One suggestion; why sissy on the drilling? Start with a small bit to remove the center and continue with the final size you need. Looking at your wonderful radial drill; it doesn't complain when you do it like that. Industry style; get the job done right and in time. Another suggestion; add a groove for a springsteel "o-ring", or even a common o-ring, so the parts stay on when you rotate the jaws. Just suggestions, no nagging, like your channel, Best, Job

[@alansvanes8479]

Thanks for going through the work it takes to post your videos. Always interesting and educational.

[@ricko5123]

After making tons of v-grooved jaws in my machining and fab years in my shop I have always made the steel jaws and just used soft materials matching the machined or cutting materials as inserts on the steel jaws I would make. I had a Heavy use of round stock, squares on the ends and angle stock for all my custom jaws and could not have survived without them. Glad to see you making them as well, Keith...

[@elsdp-4560]

Thank you for sharing. Very nice Keith. Enjoyed.👍👀

[@catfishgray3696]

GREAT JOB, GREAT VIDEO, PET THE CAT AND DOGS, SEE YOU ALL NEXT TIME..

[@smaggies]

I was so excited to view you operate the Carlton Radial Arm Drill, I have never be able to view the operation of that Drill. I thank you for your video..... :)

[@chuckpechan]

Great work, as always, Keith!

[@Unrivaledanime]

You have the pattern made send it back to clark and re cast another set and cut smaller v ways so you can handle large and smaller diameter parts

[@davidhall1779]

those are an awesome addition to the vise.

[@MrRogsmart]

Awesome. Nice project. Fun to do, fun to watch.

[@wrstew1272]

Keith you have some of the great toys, er…..tools to play, er……work with! What a collection you have assembled, I’m sure that almost everyone watching is envious. I like that you are using traditional methods and materials to resurrect , iffn it was good enough for the original build, should be good for the next hundred or so years. I lust for your biggie Wilton Bullet, we had I believe the 4” ones in metal shop in high school, and if teenagers couldn’t break them, a responsible adult would get a few lifetimes of great service.

[@plainnpretty]

Nice job they turned out great I can see that they will be very useful Thanks Keith

[@troystaten5633]

Nicely done, thanks for showing us.

[@morelenmir]

Large valve-making companies who have their own foundry still use the 'seasoning' method on their cast-iron pieces--most commonly large disks to form the gates out of. When I was a child I used to walk around the yard and be astounded why they would let all these pieces of metal sit outdoors and go rusty. My father must have explained it to me a dozen times but it never sank in for some reason!

[@stevecocroft6195]

That drill press has little to none runout.

[@MrUSNMasterChief]

Another great video... Thanks

[@Paul-FrancisB]

Good morning from the UK

[@jwaterous224]

Looks like you're really having fun in the shop Keith; moving some metal, adding serious value kind of therapeutic activity. Ginger sees the door open and slinks into the shot while protecting her turf. Nice video all around.

[@kenthesparky178]

That radial arm drill is the the design I have ever seen.👍

[@hemipatton7799]

Keith, VERY interesting vice! As a model maker, I plan to make a similar set of these jaws out of aluminum to be used on a vice that I ca drill and tap holes for a shoulder bolt with the head ut off and a slot for a flat screw driver to install them (I MAY see about getting a Machine cap screw with shoulder and step drill the vice jaws to fit that way, one or another I can use a set similar but smaller for the same reason and plan to modify a vice I currently have for such a task on a smaller scale ("size" of the jaws) for my own uses!

[@joselrodriguez5999]

Great to grip tapered shafts too.

[@andywyatt701]

Keith I am so happy I found your channel, I have enjoyed so many videos and you have such a great way of demonstrating things. ...thanks

[@alstonofalltrades3142]

I was into boat building videos which was great because the recomendations kept up throwing up more boat building, fibreglass, steel ducks, wooden ones, ect. then one day Keith helped out Leo on Tally ho and boom I had no idea machining could be learned. watched a slew of his videos and youtube did it again. ToT, Abom, Mr Crispin, Accidental Science, Robrenz. Then I decided to refresh all my electronics knowledge from where I left it years ago. BOOM Ben eater and the 8 bit computer wow. We badly need a maker space in my town, I'd well volunteer down there to get my hands on gear like this to make things and then help others.

[@bwyseymail]

Accessory number two would be a couple of copper or brass sleeves to protect the pins if you are not using the jaws.

[@billmckillip1561]

Nice project!

[@halfnelson6115]

Those look great Keith. They look way better than the one you showed in the picture. Great job. 👍

[@garthbutton699]

Yes sir,keep it as original as possible and thank you for makinging and sharing this video with us🤗😎🤗😎

[@kimber1958]

great Keith

[@StevenEverett7]

As always Keith, very enjoyable!

[@garyburns9628]

Great Job I have never seen a vice like that one

[@bulletproofpepper2]

Thanks for sharing!

[@toiyabe_effect]

I really enjoy watching you machine your own castings. Looking forward to more such projects.

[@AmateurRedneckWorkshop]

Thanks for the video.

[@petes8849]

Sometimes on vises, only one jaw is V grooved. Hard to tell, but the photo looks like only only had a groove. Nice work either way.

[@alstonofalltrades3142]

If one day the v groove is too big for the smaller cylinder type bar he wants to clamp, well.. I can see a set coming hehe.

[@Shirrif]

I agree with Pete S. I feel like the groove feature is now too dominant and smaller one on one side only may have been a viable option.

[@soundgod06]

From a work holding standpoint a V on one side only is superior as it gives a 3 point hold vs the 4 point hold you get with opposing Vs. Similar to how a 3 legged stool is steadier than a 4 legged stool. Also in his example of holding the ring between the pin and one jaw you could see him struggle to prevent one edge of the ring falling into the groove which would not be an issue if one jaw didn’t have it.

[@Ambidexter143]

That is certainly a versatile vise. It must have been quite expensive when it was new.

[@DavidMoscoeUni]

It's quite expensive now!

[@1jtolvey]

GREAT SERIES !!

[@henryD9363]

Can also grip a rod that's tapered. And the flat piece that's like a wedge. Didn't mention that

[@michaelkoch2109]

Greetings from Dresden and Happy Easter!

[@melgross]

Why cast iron jaws? I’d tater use a medium carbon steel for jaws and harden them to about 56-58. If you want swift jaws, they can be made too. But CI isn’t generally the best material for jaws.

[@joshmiville6932]

Good morning Keith thanks for another good video I really love learning from your Channel

[@rich7934]

Keith, Great job on those jaws, but I cant stop wondering why you didn't purchase 1.25 x 2.25 grey iron bar from McMaster and saw them up, instead of going through the hassle of casting?

[@kentuckytrapper780]

Great video Keith ,keep'um coming..

[@infoanorexic]

If the "v's" are a little deep, that just makes room for some custom copper shims for holding more delicate work. A single round "jaw" with a similar groove might be handy for bending round stock or tubing to a specific radius without kinking it ... if you don't have a tubing bender that is stout enough for what you are working on. (For What It's Worth.)

[@dennissheridan1550]

Now you need to make a set of aluminum soft jaw blocks.

[@n8n51]

I imagine those would be a great way to hold a tapered piece as well.

[@glenc90240]

If you surface the backside of the jaws, you can rotate the jaw and maybe protect the pins. Maybe a set of matching soft jaws are next! A O-ring on the inside of the jaws holes could help retain the jaws.

[@qivarebil2149]

Clark at Windy Hill does some very nice casting work! If it wasn't for the brutal shipping fees, I'd ask him to do some work for my projects here in Norway! 👍😎

[@WilliamTMusil]

Hiya Keith

[@Tammy-un3ql]

Fine job 👌👌

[@royreynolds108]

Another set of the jaws in aluminum would be convenient to have also.

[@jfl-mw8rp]

Just an FYI, beware of a light first cut on castings, you need to go deep enough (greater than 0.010" sometimes) to cut beyond the casting oxides on the surface. Or you will trash those expensive inserts.

[@timziegler9358]

Fine job Keith! Your meticulous work process is very instructive. Do you have a video illustrating drill bit sharpening? Best wishes.

[@MikeBaxterABC]

Great Episode Keith!! .. Very interesting the details of casting and stress relief, I've done some lost wax casting in the past.

[@douglaspierce316]

you could put a magnet across to keep them on vise so you do not have to look for them.

[@billboy7390]

Great job as usual. Could or will you stamp on One of the sides of each of the jaws what they go to go to, I would, plus I would have a home for them by where the Vice is mounted for easy access and less apt to be misplaced. From the looks of your shop you seem to have everything well organized.

[@bwyseymail]

If making jaws out of rectangular blocs of steel I would make them 2 sided with a much smaller V groove on the second side and also make a second mounting hole close to one end to hold short parts.

[@floridaflywheelersantiquee7578]

Like the vise

[@1BigBen]

those could pins also open the door for so many other custom Jaws if needed

[@sephalon1]

23:46 Cat!

[@russnixon6020]

Now you need to make a set with soft jaws.

[@railfan439]

Keith, with the pattern handy, another set could have replaceable steel or soft jaws too. I am surprised you ground off the gates on the jaw faces, especially since you machined that surface. Have you considered using a shop-vac on the mill(s)/drill press to vacuum up the cast iron cuttings while work is in process? Thanks for the video. Hope to see you at the Bar-Z. Jon

[@robertbamford8266]

V groove: “see what it sounds like.” First half of an old Victor Borge joke that ends: “ or we could hear what it looks like.” I wonder if the manufacturer ever considered some type of groove and retaining pin to keep the jaws from falling off when they are not on top. Thanks for the video.

[@tropifiori]

Wow- .250 in one pass!

[@MF175mp]

That's still a very light cut for a big machine like that.

[@keithgutshall9559]

I ran a big radil arm drill and drill a 1inch hole in stainless steel with no polit hole.

[@MrPossumeyes]

🙂 Check out CEE Australia and Kurtis's new shaper making cuts.... he won Chip of the Week with it.

[@MF175mp]

@@MrPossumeyes have you seen Jason's (Fireball Tool) cuts on the huge mill? Like 6" or something like that DOC

[@MrPossumeyes]

@@MF175mp No - better go for a squiz! Cheers for that. 👍

[@ikbendusan]

23:52 how is a machine with that much mass so wobbly

[@paulcopeland9035]

It's the bench!

[@ikbendusan]

@@paulcopeland9035 it's the machine; you can see it in the second shot afterwards as well

[@paulcopeland9035]

@@ikbendusan ....There is ZERO "wobble" in the Carlton. You are seeing camera "wobble". Originally, I thought you were commenting on the bench mount (temp clamps) of the vise. The bench is "wobbling". The floor must be uneven at that spot. As far as "wobble" in the Carlton, you are mistaken. Those are as solid of a machine as you can have!!

[@ikbendusan]

@@paulcopeland9035 if it was the camera that wobbled it would shake the entire video frame, but it's clearly just the arm of the machine lol

[@TERRYB0688]

Kieth, found that very interesting, just wonder if this type of vice is still made 👍👴🏻

[@arcadecarpet631]

Sadly its not and the vintage ones are quite expensive

[@elrond12eleven]

I think I would have done three pairs of castings for plain jaws, deep V-groves as Keith made and shallower V-grooves for more thin round stock.

[@davidsellars646]

I believe that I would also make a set of brass or aluminum jaws.

[@Bartolobot]

Not sure if anyone mentioned that these swivel jaws would work great for holding round parts with a taper on them.

[@hk91762mm]

I Live in WV and We dont have the rusting problem you guys further south do!!-Its sad to see the rust on machine tools , I have found Linseed oil will protect bare metal !

[@SgtCude59]

Great video

[@ObviousSchism]

"Cutting like butter"

[@dtoad48]

The looking off screen was unsettling.. I haven't notice you ever do that.

[@paulcopeland9035]

Why is it unsettling? Is somebody after you?

[@zooobidooo]

Cool 😎

[@stuartschaffner9744]

Does Windy Hill cast copper? Some soft jaws of the same shape might be just the thing for holding irregular objects that you don't want to mar.

[@chrisarmstrong8198]

Any odd-shaped work piece (or work method) that causes more load at the ends of each jaw than at the centre will cause tensile stress in the jaws at their weakest points (i.e. the centres where the 1.25" diameter hole and deep V-groove are). So these cast iron jaws will need to be treated reasonably gently to prevent cracking. Maybe the original jaws were cast steel, not cast iron.

[@ydonl]

I guess if he uses them for a while and decides the grooves are too deep, and assuming there's enough travel, he could take a little off the face of the jaws and effectively make them a little shallower. Easier than putting metal back on... :)

[@russelltruman7606]

When did you mill the edges? I wanted to see that process.