EMO CULTURE HAS A HUGE PROBLEM

[@8523wsxc]

I mean why would I be a large flightless bird, endemic to Australia?

[@cheharrison7107]

A Cassowary? 🧐

[@aidensgamestuff4620]

The great emu war

[@8523wsxc]

@@aidensgamestuff4620 But why would they wage war? I thought they were quite sensitive, shy, introverted, depressed and angsty.

[@Pretermit_Sound]

@@8523wsxcit was a very passive aggressive war. A lot of eye rolling, and sulking, ending with the sound of 10k people collectively mumbling “ugh, whatever”. Strangest thing I’ve ever seen 😨

[@NeepNeepPohn]

My Chemical Romance's genuine hatred of the emo description that's always stuck to them will never not be funny

[@iwillstareintoyoursoul9762]

"Pile of shit" will always be on my mind when I think back to Gee's interview.

[@Yootlander]

even spotify is like "emo classics 😊" and puts them as the first song

[@NeepNeepPohn]

@@Yootlanderactual pain

[@geraldway64000]

Gerard literally called himself the sheriff of emo town

[@indigo_0]

@@geraldway64000 yeah, but ironically

[@NotSome1]

Real emo only consists of the dc emotional hardcore scene and the late 90's screamo scene something something mcr something something sunny day real estate something something

[@AleyStrap3]

LIAR

[@GhostCapital]

It’s important to note that Rites of Spring and Embrace were formed as a part of “revolution summer,” which was a conscious rejection of the misogyny and machismo of the DC hardcore scene

[@BobCrachit]

That's actually really cool. Didn't know that

[@bake-io1cf]

aka. it was gay

[@maelusunday]

​@@bake-io1cfhow

[@themadkraken1912]

@@bake-io1cfpoop urself

[@guac19]

Rites of spring first sasscore whitebelt band?

[@ghost_to_a_ghost]

back in 1999 when people would ask me "what's 'emo'?" I would say "basically I think what happened is a bunch of punk rockers' girlfriends dumped them simultaneously and we wound up with this shit as a result." **plays The Get Up Kids**

[@0oMRLEGo0]

TEN MINUTES TO DOWNTOWN IS TEN MINUTES TOO FAR

[@ghost_to_a_ghost]

@@0oMRLEGo0 that song fucking slays 👊

[@gypsydildopunks7083]

Appleseed Cast is pretty good

[@tippiergnome8471]

The Get Up Kids are from my home city

[@ghost_to_a_ghost]

​@@tippiergnome8471 dude from the outside, Lawrence KS looks like it has a kickass music scene. that being said, I bet the "scene-politics" are absolutely horrific in Lawrence. 😅

[@eternalmochi666]

I think it’s so funny that I’ve seen kids saying “mcr and fob aren’t REAL emo” recently when I was bullied and called emo, not specifically bcuz of the music I listened to, but bcuz of how I presented myself. Any alternative kid in the early/mid 2000s was probably called emo regardless of what music you listened to lol. And I really doubt most bullies would have stopped and asked me “are you listening to mcr or american football?” before calling me emo, so this weird new gatekeeping shit is so insane to me. It’s just an umbrella term to me and always has been? Happy you made this vid tho bcuz this discourse has been driving me INSANE lately

[@ezraezra-yo6ju]

You killed screamo and emoviolence with this video its dead now thank you

[@-jank-willson]

he left out metalcore...

[@1618Cyrano]

@@-jank-willson rightfully so

[@vlsor]

@@-jank-willson metalcore isnt emo

[@vlsor]

the word emo violence is stupid anyways lol

[@-jank-willson]

@@vlsor tell that to parents who were raising a child who was into that kind of music in the earlly 00's. Why did 'screamo' get renamed as 'skramz'? because the genuine screamo people where getting tired of being lumped in with metalcore bands by the main stream media. Therefore, even though metalcore isn't *technically* part of emo, it is vastly important to it's history. Also there were some bands labeled as 'metalscream' that combined metalcore with emo/screamo

[@TAG_Underground]

How will this video impact BMTH's legacy

[@AnhydriteSkeletons]

hi top kek

[@vvvnokk8309]

Still emo legends

[@iwillstareintoyoursoul9762]

@@vvvnokk8309 BMTH isn't emo

[@DanResanti]

"Real Emo" only consists of the dc Emotional Hardcore scene and the late 90's Screamo scene. What is known by "Midwest Emo" is nothing but Alternative Rock with questionable real emo influence. When people try to argue that bands like My Chemical Romance are not real emo, while saying that Sunny Day Real Estate is, I can't help not to cringe because they are just as fake emo as My Chemical Romance (plus the pretentiousness). Real emo sounds ENERGETIC, POWERFUL and somewhat HATEFUL. Fake emo is weak, self pity and a failed attempt to direct energy and emotion into music. Some examples of REAL EMO are Pg 99, Rites of Spring, Cap n Jazz (the only real emo band from the midwest scene) and Loma Prieta. Some examples of FAKE EMO are American Football, My Chemical Romance and Mineral EMO BELONGS TO HARDCORE NOT TO INDIE, POP PUNK, ALT ROCK OR ANY OTHER MAINSTREAM GENRE

[@DanResanti]

sorry I had to

[@dopey473]

Lmao I posted this too goddamnit

[@DanResanti]

​@@dopey473beat me to it lol

[@jackie-k1q]

can't believe you beat me to it

[@dopey473]

@@jackie-k1q i pasted it first but this guy got more likes, it's fine tho not like either of us wrote something original lol

[@havinfunfallin9458]

I was and am a metalhead who just likes the look. So it’s funny when people think I’m emo lol

[@TeaCup1987]

Some people think I'm emo just because I have long hair and battle vest with venom patch. No one really knows what emo is anymore so most of them call emo everyone who dress even slightly out of norm. That's my experience.

[@Rhayader_12]

i don't even use emo clothes but i'm also a metalhead that likes the looks

[@nikhtzatzi]

I mean... It was also a look from a point on, so technically...

[@dr_popcorn]

​@@TeaCup1987wtf Venom is so far off from emo it's not even funny

[@TeaCup1987]

@@dr_popcorn I had same reaction, but as it turned out none of them even knew what it was. I think they thought it because it's black and white with old English font or something idk.

[@meatmummie]

Scene is like if we made emos with red 40

[@ОлегОледович]

That thumnibal caused flashbaсk in me with "Michail Andreevich, is that you?"

[@lydiamacintyre3729]

I'm gatekeeping, you're not REAL EMO unless you're from Emo in co. Laois, Ireland (or have lived there for at least 10 years)

[@wisdomax2891]

"ermm what is this, Emo city??"

[@2ndproductions459]

LOES

[@racheal.1885]

Never thought I’d see a Laois mention on a coolea emo video

[@Sarvusify]

I had this debate in so many facebook groups for emos, without even really listening to that music like 12 Years ago. Good times, good times

[@АртемийВерхов]

Mikhail Andreevich! You are here again!

[@greggharmston8992]

Fun fashioncore fact: The singer from 18 visions was a hairdresser

[@adoneran]

"18 voices"

[@RazorCamel]

i love when coolea speaks to me with his fluoride stare

[@meatgrinder9506]

Thats a good way to describe it i think

[@rene4cart517]

Why do you needed to use a pic of Mishgan or Customstories here?!?

[@wisdomax2891]

real emo means nothing. if your music isnt emotional in any way its probably just not good. really fun history lesson though.

[@gbsfranca]

I find mall emo as cringe as the next guy but all this video does is live to the pretentious stereotype

[@jessehutchings]

I love the repeatedly used meme clips in these videos. 🤣 They add an element of familiarity or recognizability to the videos

[@simonereckhaus6469]

Would have liked deeper focus on screamo😭

[@pl9nningforburial]

i die everytime i see people make emo their personality and they talk about mcr and pierce the veil

[@candysushiproductions]

my fav bands i feel called out

[@knife_prty3417]

CustomStories is the realest emo.

[@bobsbigboy_]

please do INDUSTRIAL METAL

[@syngysizbaiyr8869]

When I was younger and more elitist and gatekeeping (it was somewhen around mid-2010s and last half of 2010s) - I was the one of those guys who enjoyed arguing about straight borders between genres and subcultures around them, the same was with emo/screamo - I also used to tell people what real emo is even if I wasn't really into this music (but yeah, I'd prefer real "emotional hardcore" and screamo more than what it has become in 2000s when I was a child), but the more I grew up - the more I understood that (and that's only my opinion, might be wrong) it doesn't make sense. No, I'm not that type of "wise" guys who'd say "genre doesn't matter", or "labeling doesn't matter" - it matters, but let's be honest with ourselves - who listens to emo/screamo mostly, nowadays? Hardcore dudes and punks. Let it be the part of this, it shouldn't really care about all this pink alt stuff fron 2000s and early 2010s - and it doesn't care. Let the pink alt stuff be "emo" or whatever it wants to be called, who cares?

[@ashrayapoorva1839]

Ignorant guide to deathcore please

[@Lucas-sh7qe]

Fr and metalcore

[@iwillstareintoyoursoul9762]

We need this because the sound, as a whole, has become completely detached from any semblance of Death Metal and HxC

[@skam6112]

Михаил Андреевич, это вы?

[@pwnthemonkeys]

0:19 he blessed us with the people's gif early in the video

[@jlmenard7688]

I'm more of a monkey penis gif kind of guy

[@elpeluca7780]

any idea of where that gif is from? I can't find it anywhere and Idek how to look for it

[@CraftedForest]

@@elpeluca7780 "flushed out" i think is the name of the movie

[@nv_johan8711]

​@@elpeluca7780 its pyrocynical inflation

[@drainedyvngxd3xth]

@@elpeluca7780It's pyrocynical becoming obese.

[@Skaatje]

This video made me remember Boxxy. 😅

[@fallenangelcrimson]

you’ll taste it! you’ll taste it! in time you’ll taste it! you’ll taste it! in time

[@tmamone83]

Reflected in savage shards A new face, a soul reborn

[@fallenangelcrimson]

@@tmamone83 you’ll taste it! you’ll taste it! in time you’ll taste it! you’ll taste it! in time you’ll taste it! you’ll taste it! in time you’ll taste it! you’ll taste it! in time the right words in time the right words in time

[@tmamone83]

@@fallenangelcrimson “Diary” is such a great album, isn’t it?

[@fallenangelcrimson]

@@tmamone83 one of the greatest mankind has ever seen

[@johnsmith5215]

The sun is coming down again....

[@chrisbeaumont4630]

Cant help but see how dead youth culture is when one of the worst subcultures to exist has become fashionable again, recycling some of the worst trash aesthetics due to a total lack of anything better.

[@Alexander-km8es]

Thank you for covering screamo I can finally discard that comment

[@danteshollowedgrounds]

Uhhh Ohhh I feel personally attacked but at the same time I am not.

[@AleyStrap3]

Well I am

[@dopey473]

Time to post the obligatory funy copypasta: "Real Emo" only consists of the dc Emotional Hardcore scene and the late 90's Screamo scene. What is known by "Midwest Emo" is nothing but Alternative Rock with questionable real emo influence. When people try to argue that bands like My Chemical Romance are not real emo, while saying that Sunny Day Real Estate is, I can't help not to cringe because they are just as fake emo as My Chemical Romance (plus the pretentiousness). Real emo sounds ENERGETIC, POWERFUL and somewhat HATEFUL. Fake emo is weak, self pity and a failed attempt to direct energy and emotion into music. Some examples of REAL EMO are Pg 99, Rites of Spring, Cap n Jazz (the only real emo band from the midwest scene) and Loma Prieta. Some examples of FAKE EMO are American Football, My Chemical Romance and Mineral EMO BELONGS TO HARDCORE NOT TO INDIE, POP PUNK, ALT ROCK OR ANY OTHER MAINSTREAM GENRE

[@shredderly]

I saw this a couple of days ago on a i wrote haikus about cannibalism on your yearbook song.

[@AleyStrap3]

LIAR YOUR ALL LIARS THEIR ALL LIARS THIS “REAL EMO” BULLSHIT IS JUST CROSSOVER PUNK AMERICAN FOOTBALL IS MIDWESTERN EMO DUMBASS AND YOU DIDNT MENTION MICHIGAN’S OWN SWORDFISH AND “FAKE EMO” IS JUST A BULLSHIT MADE BY A BUNCH OF MUSIC SNOBS WHO WANTED OFFENDED OUR BLACK HEARTS!!!

[@benwinter2420]

It's ecstasy music then ? . . never taken it , but apparently it's an empathy drug

[@A_random_NPC]

I really enjoy your content. Thank you for being so dedicated to making videos

[@theactualTVB]

My mid-to-late 2000s middle school years was caked with cringe emo stuff

[@danteshollowedgrounds]

The thumbnail killed me. 👏😂🤭😆😆😆🤣🤣🤣💀☠⚰⚰⚰

[@theknightsofawesomeness2701]

RIP this guy

[@ЖоЖо-я3л]

Guy in preview it's Customstories

[@ЖоЖо-я3л]

And he isn't emo

[@AlfredSoul]

Somehow, the tyical emo singer pronounciation meme didn't make it in.

[@Johnmrobinson-vb5vd]

Modern emo is just pop punk with emo influence

[@Teekay617]

Hit the nail on the head! As usual I love your videos! Great content!

[@dawgwiddaglasses]

In order to be a real emo, you must be sixteen, or attracted to sixteen year olds. If you’re neither, then you aren’t a real emo.

[@pwnthemonkeys]

i always assumed that the emo scene didn't become solidfied until after 9/11. as younger siblings are reacting to the war and the loss of their older siblings being sent off on unfocused battles

[@Skaatje]

There are more countries in the world, most of them didn't care about 11/9 😉

[@danielflanard8274]

​@@Skaatje Sorry to break your bubble but in this case the United States is the region of relevance. Most other countries had small to nonexistent emo scenes and the ones that did exist were wholly distinct sub-cultures to the emos of the US. The emo music genre and subculture is deeply American.

[@Nek-my8jq]

@@danielflanard8274 yes, america is the epicenter of cringe and gay

[@HailWoden18]

​@@Skaatje Yeah, this is an American genre and culture. Don't talk out your äs.

[@iwillstareintoyoursoul9762]

@@Nek-my8jq, if you call anything you don't like "gay" at least a thousand times, chances are you're in the closet yourself

[@die4uok]

emo is coming back

[@dakistle]

As a myopic Boise punk in the 90's, I was impressed by bands like Braid and Smart Went Crazy. I suspected it was all washing in from the midwest. I did see some silly moustachio'd types in those times. Went on with my life and forgot about it. I was shocked when I realized a few years down the road what the youth were referring to as emo was MTV popular. Good for them.

[@_________4044]

this idea of midwest emo being defined by guitar virtuosity and time signatures or whatever is purely due to the popularity of american football, which as a band was a huge diversion from the original bands that defined the genre, causing math rock/emo fusion. also perhaps some bands in the 90s/early 00s screamo scene doing a lot of guitar wankery too and that influence overlapping with UG emo.

[@Thunderheadheavyautocannon]

Михаил Андреевич, это вы!

[@SynthLikeKnives]

So I'm watching this video kinda late. But since you slightly touched on it, can we get a screamo history/breakdown video? Not a "breakdown compilation" haha.

[@dtanaka869-d]

0:51 omg it's Danny Brown

[@kurm7161]

Mane fk off😭😭😭😭😭 don’t diss my boy Jimmy Butler like dat bruh

[@E123noman]

I think coolea has a thing for midwest emo

[@MCDLXXXVIII_]

i’m so glad someone is talking about this

[@Lizknot]

Can you do the history of Killswitch Engage?

[@erickdellopart5691]

I rlly like this updated template

[@DM-mb3uz]

Its 18 Visions, not voices

[@EncoreASMR]

I blame the music industry and journos for inventing so many dumb genre names. So I'm gonna start calling new heavy rock as "buzz and riff". I mean we haven't got enough as it is. Chug and riff, scream and blast also sounds fab.

[@mcsweats7460]

Make a video about power violence since you snubbed screamo and emo violence in this vid

[@petecook5VIDCHANNEL1]

I would postulate something much simpler: Emo was a label slapped on a group of indie/post-hardcore bands in the 90s. It has no defining features or look because it was applied by record label suits after the fact as they were trying to manufacture more copy cat bands. “Emo” only became a fashion statement in the 2000s. The music had nothing to do with the post hardcore bands of the 90s. Essentially…Emo became a name of a haircut.

[@yasuh4550]

seeing Jimmy Butler every 2 seconds is killing me

[@Kane093-s2d]

HEROINE MENTIONED 🔥🔥🔥 also tysm as an emo myself who is emo because of skramz screamo music for talking about and covering screamo / skramz also emo violence is such a bad term (bad as in it just sounds cringey and poorly made and is not as good as the term screamo + skramz music)

[@NEXO.1]

Midwest emo, Classic emo and emo rap are the only tips of Emo music I listened to however I don't really know if I can consider myself a emo

[@149315Nico]

“If you aren’t emo, why are you listening to sunny day real estate?” “ your right, I really became an emo” - the Southpark emo episode

[@thebirdie32]

Im like a mix of those 2 emos… i like both og midwest emo and pop punk…

[@ptcosmos]

12:48 I hate you Coolea, I'm gonna comment on your videos for years until you see me

[@BustinScales510]

A lot of this is on point but the Orange County eyeliner and black flat ironed hair look that 18 Visions were doing (along with Avenged Sevenfold and some others) was more Misfits and arty 80s deathrock inspired. The tight clothes were probably a rebellion against the ultra baggy skater/pop punk attire that proliferated throughout the 90s.

[@-whiskey-4134]

Modern alternative culture as a whole has just become a mass of people playing victim olympics while coopting an aesthetic styles. These younger kids have no idea where goth, emo, scene, etc. actually come from and how they can differ and even overlap. They wear the clothes, have piercings, tats and colored hair, but have no connection to the difference scenes many of us grew up with. Back then you could basically tell who was a hardcore kid, who was into post hardcore/pop punk, who the goths were, the scene kids, death metal people, who liked grunge, etc., even the juggalos hung out with us lol a lot of us were still friends though and there was lots of overlap in mutual bands and music we enjoyed. These days, I see someone who’s “alt” and immediately think that everything will trigger them into some crazy sociopolitical rant about who has privilege, who’s oppressed, someone about racism, feminism, and the patriarchy, and wear band shirts they dont even listen to. They basically cosplay as something they were never a part of or experienced. I mean, apparently it’s trendy now, but when I was younger, people like that were avoided and were the “weird” kids. It wasn’t really something we did to show off. If anything, despite the look, we really didn’t want unwarranted attention in a lot of cases because it led to harassment, bullying, we were labeled as evil and satanic lmao We went through some stuff just for being ourselves. In a way, dressing like that helped a lot of us find our “tribe” so to speak. If you saw another “alt” person, chances are you’d get a long and have a lot in common right off the bat, making social interactions easier. To en fair, many of us had hard lives and bad homes, so we also had others who could in some ways actually understand us.

[@bongusdongus2137]

Antioch Arrow mention, based

[@chocolateflavoredclorox7029]

Can you do a history of the riot girl scene pls

[@jessehutchings]

4:15 Strategically avoids mentioning the single darkest emo rock band of the 90s very nice work friend lol

[@M0TH83]

Every time I click on these videos i keep getting reminded that I started balding at 17 and now look like I belong in a coffee shop or a beaten up in a pit

[@needlehead9888]

Thank you for uploading

[@scotthallgv]

Modern day emo is nothing more than mall goth hot topic nerds who latched onto the terminology without any understanding of the hardcore scene and where emo came from and actually is. Also emo wasnt penned by thrasher magazine, it was something we used in the scene proper in the DC,VA,MD area. It started out as a joke in the scene then caught on a few years later.

[@azloii9781]

You sound really dense. You have to buy your clothes somewhere lol. And go to the mall some day, it’s fun

[@buttholelicker1874]

@@azloii9781you ever heard of shows, record stores, or thrifting to buy clothes ?? Or even DIY band merch, it isn’t that hard to make good looking band merch with a stencil. Hot topic sucks ass and capitalizes on anti-capitalist subcultures and malls suck too with how incredibly overpriced everything is

[@scotthallgv]

@@azloii9781 Sure thing friend, see ya there.

[@MrKingkz]

Ah yes the I like rock music so I went to the most commercial shop to buy whatever everybody else has this is why I hated emos I find it very try hard like goth and punk before it

[@bake-io1cf]

@@MrKingkz all punk music is for posers and queers

[@shoopaloopa956]

And I drank 5 bottles of water today 😁

[@wisdomax2891]

jesus fucking christ

[@weirdpath5481]

I very much enjoy the usage of monkey footage

[@hozic9929]

we are fashioning it w this one

[@SamBrockmann]

It's almost like, when the whole f***ing point is, "be emotional," you get ridiculous incarnations. That said, scene is a goddamn abomination.

[@EncoreASMR]

It's Eighteen Visions, not 18 voices lol 😂. Hilarious to think 2000s emo was Myspace glam rock & arena metal- everything that punk railed against in the 1980s. For punk, a true case of you either die a hero or you live long enough to become a villain (and become what you hate). Emo, just like metalcore, became detached from punk and metal, and became their own scenes.

[@yari_dawg]

"Real Emo" only consists of the dc Emotional Hardcore scene and the late 90's Screamo scene. What is known by "Midwest Emo" is nothing but Alternative Rock with questionable real emo influence. When people try to argue that bands like My Chemical Romance are not real emo, while saying that Sunny Day Real Estate is, I can't help not to cringe because they are just as fake emo as My Chemical Romance (plus the pretentiousness). Real emo sounds ENERGETIC, POWERFUL and somewhat HATEFUL. Fake emo is weak, self pity and a failed attempt to direct energy and emotion into music. Some examples of REAL EMO are Pg 99, Rites of Spring, Cap n Jazz (the only real emo band from the midwest scene) and Loma Prieta. Some examples of FAKE EMO are American Football, My Chemical Romance and Mineral EMO BELONGS TO HARDCORE NOT TO INDIE, POP PUNK, ALT ROCK OR ANY OTHER MAINSTREAM GENRE

[@johnchedsey1306]

It cracks me up that Ian MacKaye and Guy Piciotto, who played in one of the greatest bands ever (Fugazi), accidentally helped spawn two of the most insufferable sub culture ever: emo and straight edge.

[@Yootlander]

they're still absolute legends

[@lovelife1867]

Emo culture IS the problem. Never connected to the ethos of hard core , nothing street in it , no values, just a industry way to earn from boys in tights like they did in the 80's with hair metal. Literally the same people sat in the music company rooms and discussed how to get back into rockstar pocket since everything else was tapped out. And Prmba approach to it was - well it was a gateway into music, it sold a lot of merch , it made bands popular etc.. fuck that . Nothing punk about it all and 🖕

[@mn0g0nm]

K, Y THO? someone needs to convince me that gatekeeping what is or is not emo was truly worth the carbon footprint that this fifteen minute pontification dumped on this planet

[@lil_guapo_x]

Coolea touched me before uploading this video 🙏🗣️

[@jay.p.w]

Crazy.

[@jay.p.w]

Not ironically this is insane 🥴🤯🤯

[@undyingclearlight7988]

There was never an emocore... thats a modern term people are applying to hardcore bands who were more melodic with thoughtful lyrics. Alot of the the other "emo" bands being discussed were referred to as "indie" at the time they were around, like braid, promise ring. Referring to a person as an "emo" is also a term that started to be used in the last few years. People used to talk about "emo kids" back in the 2000's, to refer to the phony swoosh-hair-white-belted-hipster phenomenon. Also Refused... emo? No way. They were an anarchist mod-stylized hardcore band- with lots of influence from Nation of Ulysses and The Make Up. Sorry but this video was created by someone outside of the punk scene, and so only gives a very surface and inconsistent "history" of what has come to be called emo. Emo is a commercial term, not something many bands or fans ever referred to themselves as. Also "scene" is not a subculture related to emo, its related to being a "hipster". If you want to use the definitions of outsiders to understand the varieties of punk rock, indie, or whatever, go ahead. If you want to actually understand it, go listen to Fugazi, Rites of Spring, Into Another, Quicksand, Moss Idol; or for more modern examples go check out Orchid, Saetia, Pg. 99, The Blackout Terror, Circle Takes the Square,Yaphet Koto; or the crust punk variations like Fall of Efrafa, Tragedy, His Hero is Gone, or newer bands like Habak.

[@batviolence]

8:47 eighteen voices

[@Petewentztoez]

12:02 my autistic ass jumped so hard when I saw the fob concert footage 😭

[@anthonyray4862]

Is that Peterson mixing stew? 😂😂

[@lt.reubenrozeyt5716]

Hey Coolea do you play any instruments?

[@sunofslavia]

If I'm not a real emo, why am I sad after this video?!

[@AleyStrap3]

He’s wrong and pissed off

[@Ideksooo]

I need a guide to darkwave

[@danteshollowedgrounds]

Showing this to all of my normie friends who do not care thank you lads.

[@Hardcorebxstard.]

Eighteen Voices?, Eighteen Visions cousin or something?

[@bjorno.6811]

At 8:47 you meant 18 Visions (not Voices). It's interesting that you state them as an impact on the fashion aspect to what'd later be termed "emo" in contrast to the hyper masculin hardcore roots of the term. To me 18 Visions along side their peers Bleeding Through (the O.C. Hardcore/Metalcore scene) always were a more fashionable niche of the 2000s metalcore branch that combined the masculine aspect with a (more or less feminine viewed) sense of fashion. It could be compared to the hair metal era (e.g. Mötley Crue). Whereas the San Diego scene seemed to me as a harsh contrast to the hyper masculine hardcore scene.

[@cza-pm-dxk950]

Sorry but if im gonna explain emo... *cut the rites of springs debut all the was to 1999* "It all start when Brand New Taking Back Sunday The used Finch The Starting Line release album" You know what weird for me, i never seen emo below 1999 is emo, and 2000s above is emo for me

[@xyanide1986]

I like how most edits along with the word "explosion" / "exploded" are brown or a toilet.

[@The-Golden-Oak]

So emo is just to hardcore, what hair metal is to Heavy Metal. Got it.

[@bambic3641]

No one could of rlly stopped how capitalism changed everything

[@scotthallgv]

Ya wanna know what real emo is? Real emo is what happened when a bunch of kids who were music nerds who took piano lessons and all that sorta thing, got into punk as a way to rebel against that, and then when punk started dying and hardcore started dying, they still wanted to play in bands and decided they wanted to make music like Morrissey and the Smiths and emo grew from that want to continue making music but have it be something more substantive than screaming for change. It was the dirty secret of hardcore that most of those kids like The Smiths and The Cure and when hardcore died and they didnt need to X up their hands anymore, they could finally embrace their real musical inspirations and make the kind of music they really wanted to and that is how emo was born.

[@mingebag3702]

Crazy how there's been decades worth of emo and nothing has surpassed One last wish's 1986 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@Janos0206]

But what about neue deutsche welle coolea?

[@michaelluciano1980]

Spock Rock hahaha that's awesome

[@donovynu5130]

pop punk emo has two sides…. the emo trinity was more derivative of dark, anti-capitalist /anti-fascist & queer literature & film- with my chemical romance’s 3 cheers for sweet revenge being a rock opera concept album inspired by works like phantom of the paradise (1974) & the southern gothic short story A Rose For Emily by William Faulkner & Panic!’s debut album having an aesthetic ripped from Moulin Rouge & their next album being a love letter to poet Arthur Rimbaud… it’s much less “i hate this town & my life is shit” …. it’s theatrical because it’s camp. it’s glitter and gore and myspace galore lol we love to see it

[@cza-pm-dxk950]

Real emo is real emo for real emo people, and emo is most popular emo and most known emo no matter how much conterversol, sad(not for me) but true 80% of people known emo in the golden era not real emo, idk but i went to TBS FOB MCR Bayside TSL YC Saosin etc. And i never ever get into real emo stuff, 2000s emo is what most people can get into that Fact.