EMO: The Sub-Culture The World HATED

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Finn Mckenty reacts to "The Sub-Culture The World HATED" by JimmyTheGiant, taking you back to the 2000s when the media waged war on emo kids, scene kids, MySpace and the emo subculture as a whole (Fall Out Boy, Panic At The Disco, My Chemical Romance). Why did everyone hate emo? What killed emo?
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[@FinnMckentyPRMBA]

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[@mojobone5352]

Vessi is the Finnish word for water, code FINN for 15% off ^_^ Tuesday I'm ordering a pair.

[@alvatrous]

watch his runescape video. its a great story

[@deftones3138]

i usually skip your ads but those shoes were kinda sick

[@noir4356]

Are those Vessis real?? I'm actually really curious!

[@tudormiller8898]

Scene Queens looked way better than Emo girls. So much colour. ❤

[@MilitantMe]

There's never been a better reason to invade a country than to protect the rights of Emos

[@FinnMckentyPRMBA]

Shoutout to all our boys defending emo in Iraq

[@matthewp9569]

Literally why I enlisted in 2002. Boy, was I in for a surprise!

[@frederickdelius1106]

We used to blast panic at the disco while rolling down the streets of Tikrit.

[@EclecticoIconoclasta]

The US liberals did sell that as well as the Afganistan invasion as done to protect women but the hidden interests were of course economic but perhaps mainly the large US military industrial complex which lives off of wars in other continents

[@TeRROR_GABBER]

Gabbers killed the Emo Emos walked into our scene , i don't like that

[@williamwiseman8939]

As an emo/scene kid from an extremely rural place from the 2000's the feminine/homophobe thing is sooooo true. Every day I was called a "faggot" at least a dozen times a day in high school but my revenge was having heir girlfriends sit on my lap and do my make up lol

[@frantradugalvez5407]

Real chad move, respect.

[@MrHURRICANE43]

Big Chad energy there. Respect

[@timeee2kill]

that’s what i like to hear 💯 lol

[@NoPizzaProductions]

BASED

[@a_random_jonny6424]

sigma grindset

[@JimmyTheGiant]

"invade to save emo" killed me, great reaction. Thanks :)

[@FinnMckentyPRMBA]

Great videos man! My wife and I watch all the time. You make rollerblading and razor scooters interesting!

[@luke_cohen1]

In Australia, they invade countries to kill the Emus.

[@SanguineThor]

Mum jeans, great video man.

[@brendonross5774]

Jimmy, reach out to Pat Finerty ... August is Falling need your genius to help break them in the UK.

[@Genny-Zee]

Did you watch Finn’s video on emo 😂😂

[@tealeaf3210]

As a teenager i was friends with emos. They were just not respected at all. Some guys were violent with them but froze the moment they understood i was with them. Not because they were scared of me, but cause they couldn't understand how a black dude with dreadlocks that apparently had nothing to do with being emo could be friend with them. It was quite sad.

[@ComicusFreemanius]

The Token Emo aka me

[@ComicusFreemanius]

Not that strange, even Lil Wayne turned emo there. Hip-hop and Emo were closely related. Hollywood Undead is some of my first emo music back in 2005. Now I listen to MF DOOM a lot and my favorite shows stayed The Boondocks and hood classics like Chapelle.

[@elihyland4781]

( prolly way older than you [‘84] but similiar story ) in punk rock in the late 90’s emo was an absolute punching bag. There wasn’t a group of people that took them seriously. Nothing was ever really violent but there was zero respect. Not for nothing I knew some really tough dudes who were VERY into emo.

[@joshuaholman7760]

Yeah, I had one friend who got laughed andl bullied off the football team because he got into the emo subculture. And the other friends I had that were emo/scene kids from middle school through high school(most all of them are not that far removed from their little emo selves even today lol. They just dress much more normally) got so much shit for no reason. And I got sooo much hell for being friends with them and being somewhat similar to them. Liking the music didn't fucking help my case either😂

[@amnm920]

Interesting.

[@timb6558]

What's weird to me is how wildly different the "prehistoric emo" culture was from the black bangs and eyeliner mall-core emo. The OG emo kids were all in grandpa clothes and thick glasses. Very different vibes.

[@wolfhawk1999]

Yeah, that was always what I thought of when I heard "emo" until it got hammered into my head that mall core is the only emo that is recognized now

[@vvvnokk8309]

So they looked like Rivers Cuomo from Weezer?

[@mimidreamy6726]

lol yeah, emo kinda went underground and just became that again in the 2010s

[@antoniochiodi4183]

And that’s not even the oldest form of emo… that’s mainly mid and late 90s Midwest Emo. The true OG emo look from mid and late 80s and even a bit early 90s from DC and NYC was literally identical to all other dress down hardcore punk

[@pantsnjacket381]

@@vvvnokk8309 yeah, that was partially inspired by weezer, which by no means were an emo band but were influential

[@MrKDeevil547]

My 13 yr old daughter dresses in a mixture of Emo/Nu Metal style. Basically big nu metal pants and EMO everything else. She is yelled at on a daily basis at school from other kids. They call her emo and bark at her. (yes like a dog.) Constantly asking if she listens to MCR. She, luckily, finds it funny and baffling why they bark at her. So the emo hate is still prevalent in 8th grade in a medium size town in Kansas.

[@misscacti2126]

Growing up as a teenager in the mid-late 2000s is the exact reason that hair styles on guys is the main thing I like/notice first

[@PalmelaHanderson]

The first "emo wave" that hit my school wasn't Fall Out Boy, Panic, or MCR, it was a different trinity: Senses Fail, Saosin, and The Used. I remember the summer that Senses Fail and Saosin's started becoming popular, it was like a switch was flipped. Everyone, even the girls I liked, started listening to it, which meant that I did, too.

[@lavenderllamamusic]

I still believe Saosin's "Translating The Name" EP was responsible in laying the groundwork for the sound that would come 2 to 4 years after its release. Such a timeless EP. The drums are insane and Anthony's vocals are pristine

[@tytar1037]

@@lavenderllamamusic It was SO GOOD. I saw them live with Anthony

[@User-54631]

Years ago, a co worker come up to me concerned that his son might be emo. The way he said it was so serious, it was hilarious.

[@theangelbelow88]

"I think my son may have come down with the emo and I don't know what to do..."

[@timb6558]

"My kid just came out as emo. Please pray." 😔 🙏

[@joshuaholman7760]

That's the least concerning thing his kid could be😂😂. How did you respond?

[@Galactic_rats]

As a British emo those daily fail articles were so annoying, my Grandma was bringing those articles to my parents, I was such a hard MCR fan girl I went to London from the north of England to protest outside the daily mail offices.

[@Mimotasis]

here in South America it clashed a lot with the "macho" culture that is still very prevalent till this day and it got pretty violent for the emos at one point

[@tommycwills]

One thing that I can always count on in emo retrospectives is for The Used to be overlooked! I love MCR, AFI, Paramore, and FOB as much as anyone but I will always believe nobody did it better than The Used ❤

[@JonnyRottenn__]

Isn’t that weird? Especially considering they were like, oddly pit against each other by fans back then.

[@B-Shells]

My mom loves that band

[@Assimilator702]

I always loved AFI. Great band.

[@drmike5325]

Yeah, the used are very underrated

[@michelleobamasthicccocc822]

Taking back sunday

[@kurtw6922]

Gerard: were not a cult Audience: standing deliriously hanging on his every word, ready to repeat anything he says I love MCR thats just funny though.

[@aimeeaztec4601]

Loved emo culture back in the 2000s and always thought I was one. I took a personality test and it turned out I was more unintentionally black metal. Thats not a good thing I realise now. Awesome show Finn!

[@joshuaholman7760]

I was around it so much in my teens and early 20s due to friends, but I was never one. It was a fun subculture to be around.

[@GrimmFLawless]

As a 2000s teenager that grew up in a small town in Northwest Georgia I can agree that Emo was hated for not being masculine enough. My high school was pretty small, roughly 800 students and anyone that was alternative were labeled as goths even though it was a mix of people who liked goth, pop punk, emo and nu metal, plus people that liked anime. I kinda fit the type. I had a Mohawk and wore a lot of black but never considered myself goth. I would’ve called myself punk if anything. Green Day was my gateway into the culture and I still like them today. However I no longer dress in black and have since branched out into hardcore and alt rock. The way I dress now is more akin to grunge and my outlook on life is way more positive. I like emotional music for the way it sounds not because I’m dysfunctional. At least not anymore. I grew out of the edginess but still enjoy the music.

[@OBYfan]

When I was in middle school I used to be bullied for being emo. It's funny looking at my old classmates' social media and seeing them wearing stuff they made fun of me for. Funny how stuff sometimes turns out.

[@ericAF187]

I was one of the kids that hated when people called me emo, and preferred "scene" 😂 People would always say it's the same thing and I'd argue, scene is dressing almost exactly like an emo, except listening to deathcore/metalcore instead of emo. So the main difference between scene and emo was probably the band on your tee shirt 😂

[@acidducks9476]

lol that's me at 18 rn

[@ericAF187]

@@acidducks9476 it's normal now tho. It's not as hard to be a scene kid as it was in 2006. They didn't make skinny jeans yet, so finding comfortable women's jeans was a pain in the ass. And everyone at school would call you ghey. But then 2 years later skinny jeans came into style with the preppy kids. 😂😂 I had a field day with that one at school.

[@acidducks9476]

@@ericAF187 Yea it's definitely a lot easier to do now lol. What's even crazier is that in the 2010's you would've been made fun of not because you were emo, but because you were doing something that was "so old" and "that's so 2000's bro" but now in the 2020's, 2000's nostalgia is in full swing and that stuff is cool now. Weird time to be alive

[@lethybridtheorygolucastheo2191]

@@acidducks9476 Only because it's a trend. People out there still get bullied for liking this stuff. Don't get me wrong Emo Pop is a good genre, but I'm not going to hide the fact that it was corporate or commercialized. And please, society in the 2000s wasn't even that good. 9/11, War on terror, Afghanistan War, Iraq War, Paparazzi's harassing female celebrities, 2008 recession. I'd rather revive the 1990s than that decade

[@Gimmie_my_legoz]

Fr now they group them together and call it "Scenemo"😂 but fr scene did have other influences besides emo and pop punk like rave culture

[@lout9231]

as a "thrasher" kid with the generic high top sneakers skinny jeans and ripped jean jacket with obligatory patches on growning up in the 2000's nothing wound me up more than "normies" calling me an emo at the time lmao

[@Chill-mm4pn]

Us goths got annoyed with that too. Any alternative person who wears black was (and still is) automatically called emo by "normies". Eldergoth in my 30s now and I'll probably be called an e-boy lol. (Even in my Switchblade Symphony band tee) Too old to care about that stuff.

[@lout9231]

@@Chill-mm4pn I'm now permanently disappointed that the alt look has been normalised and any girl I'd ask to go and see lorna shore or lamb of god just looks horrified and goes to listen to bad bunny instead lol. In fairness I look like a normie now too

[@sydneytees]

It was awful being into goth and metal at that time, I got called emo a lot too.

[@lavenderllamamusic]

@@lout9231 Bad Bunny should front a latin hardcore band, i'd listen to that lmao

[@EvelynSucksAtLife]

Same

[@sollamander2206]

You're dead on about the mopey normie outcast vs true outcast thing. I remember during the Winter of 2007 being with a couple of friends and just aimlessly lying in the snow pitying ourselves because a couple of our old friends left our group for a different clique another one had to go to his dad's house an hour away on weekends. One of our moms walked by and asked what was wrong, and one of us replied "We don't have any friends". She then responded "Well there's three of you hanging out together right now, you could do a lot worse for yourselves" chuckled and shook her head as she walked off. I know it was a joke but I think the Iraq emo thing was actually a result of the invasion. After we took out Saddam and did debaathification, Iraq became dominated by Shia politicians with very close ties to Iran and I think the anti-emo thing happened there too. Shia theocracy often reminds me of an extreme version of the town from Footloose.

[@post-hardcoreGuy]

It’s always the shias man

[@dannorris642]

As someone who has lectured young-uns on "real emo" bringing up Rites of Spring, I full-on horse-laughed at that nerd call-out.

[@benkendall5562]

As a British teen coming up in the late 2000s, I got into American emo/pop-punk partly because all the cooler kids I didn't like at school listened to British indie rock (Arctic Monkeys, Franz Ferdinand, Kaiser Chiefs etc...) - British indie back then was pretty much football, booze, lads (American equivalent being 'bros') so American alternative stuff had a bit more expression and honesty to it that I appreciated as an angsty boy

[@dsfgasdgqweq3456t534]

Why were you so angsty?

[@SourMoonBlues]

@@dsfgasdgqweq3456t534 It's called being a teenager.

[@dsfgasdgqweq3456t534]

@@SourMoonBlues I wasn't angsty as a teen. I had a lot of fun. Im just wondering what all the angst is from

[@SourMoonBlues]

@@dsfgasdgqweq3456t534 Oh you know, being alive. We just become that age where we are being flooded with hormones and new emotions.

[@lethybridtheorygolucastheo2191]

"Ben Kendall" Other than Pop Punk and Emo Pop, were you a fan of Metalcore and Post Grunge?

[@delix787]

I don’t see goths or emo’s anymore! It’s very rare to see an adult still have that same style after high school.

[@vasilis1380]

I was emo af in high school. I’m glad smart phones didn’t exist back then haha. The only evidence is some awkward family party photos. Glad MySpace deleted everything lol

[@acidducks9476]

why be embarrassed if it? If i were you I would be doing everything to try to find them 💀

[@felipecavalera8729]

I wasnt emo, but you should be proud. You had the balls to express yourself in some kind of way and lived life to the fullest .

[@vasilis1380]

@@acidducks9476 idk I guess because I see through the social engineering now. I thought I was going against the grain but the social engineers manipulated me into dressing and acting in a way I wasn’t aware was contrived. But it was a good time haha

[@skipp10467]

I was in college so I missed that whole wave, but Helena by My Chemical Romance will always be one of my favorite songs. Also nobody really talks about Korns possible impact on emo. The dark confessional lyrics with the aesthetic that Jonathan Davis had around 98/99. He had the whole black hair and weird mustache going on with the whole goth vibe.

[@Juggale]

Glad to see Jimmy getting some love. He makes some amazing videos and I recommend everyone to check him out!

[@FinnMckentyPRMBA]

Same! Love his videos.

[@michaelhawkins7389]

@@FinnMckentyPRMBA The reason you didn't hear about that girl dying , who liked My chemical Romance is because she was from United Kingdom

[@Avovoom]

I was a senior in high school when the punch an emo in the face happened and we had a fair amount of emo kids, but everyone was way more concerned with The Omen coming out. Only 1 of my friends was brave enough to see it with me that day, most everyone else was very superstitious 😂

[@luizakrolewska]

I guess I was one of those scene kids, or more of a "happy emo" listening to pop punk and reblogging sad stuff on Tumblr. Nowadays I'm literally reading political fights on Twitter and FB, still wearing black and addicted to caffeine lol, the ending was spot on! ;D

[@AstralHealthGuy]

I think the most weird thing in the UK was that even other alternative people hated emo and alot was violent at times to them. It was never the same as Chavs but could get heated at times .it's something I've never before or since as all the alternative people would hang out with each other and be friends

[@lethybridtheorygolucastheo2191]

"Neton Kent" That's because Boomers and Gen X'ers were part of the media at the time and that stuff never appealed to them. Besides in the UK, Emo Pop was more seen as lower-class music along with Pop Punk, Nu Metal and Post Grunge and was more popular among Kerrang! Audiences while the mainstream were listening to Franz Ferdinand, The Strokes, Arctic Monkeys, The White Stripes, The Hives, The Vines, Bloc Party, The Libertines, Jet, Wolfmother etc and was seen as upper-class music. Aside from Bush, Bullet for My Valentine, Busted, Funeral for A Friend, Skindred and the Welsh band that shall not be named this stuff wasn't really popular there compared to everywhere else around the world

[@SconnerStudios]

Emo is some of the best music that can be made. The angsty feel the music gives off is so idk if you ever saw that "emo's not dead" channel, but it's super funny in making fun of the emo attitude. Maybe you'll mention it in the video (I just started watching).

[@swan5545]

I was definitely that nerd who would argue about what real emo was and would get offended when someone called me scene. But I also associated a lot with goth as well and the goth versus emo episodes of South Park is what got me into that show lol.

[@nicksentle1984]

as someone who went through depression surrounding urself with things that are negative or hereing depressing songs actually help bc being around ppl who understand the pain i was going through was really comforting and really kept me going strong

[@XYZenithMusic]

The internet romanticizes how emo and scene was and how it looked, but the real reason people hated it was because the emo/scene kids were actually cringe af and for the most part didn't REALLY look the part. They wore the clothes and that's about it....makeup was usually just sharpie drawing on their face, hair was self-cut and usually uneven, they were far from holding the looks of influencers like My Digital Escape and so on. That's just the looks alone...their personalities were insufferable...they would flex about their anger outbursts and find reasons to "cut" themselves (usually a mini slit with a damn poster pushpin), and would quote lyrics from whatever scene band they listened to when venting on social media. I always loved the aesthetics and embrace the fuck out of it today, but I'm going to be real with y'all was not as cool as the internet makes it out to be.

[@Bastet32]

Thank you for bringing everything up. 🙏🏻🖤 Nostalgic asf

[@kohhna]

I remember the Daily Mail going full moral panic after Hannah Bond died. I also remember well how the emo community and MCR themselves handled it after, which earned my gruding but complete respect for the scene.

[@jordanmichael2655]

“Cut my wrists and black my eyes” became the lyric everyone who didn’t understand or like emo clung onto.

[@TheWoodEyeLyes]

It really was! "...so I can fall asleep tonight, or die! Because you killed me!"

[@CitizenSnips]

Considering the guy's British, I'm really surprised he never mentioned Funeral For A Friend

[@robertlees2065]

Agreed, FFAF were hugely important in the UK and were actually pretty successful with CDADIC & Hours, play that dial tone to any alt/emo music fan in the UK of a certain age and they'll know what song it is. Iirc they were also a major factor in Bring Me The Horizon even existing.

[@AMirrorForAFace]

As someone that's 28 now I was there when fuse still played emo an post hardcore an myspace was at it's prime,I totally agree with you lol love this

[@chrisdouglas5020]

Good timing. Getting ready for bed. I work weird hours lol. Have a good day guys!

[@regressionbegins]

I still struggle with that transition in the early 2000s from whatever emo was in the first 15 years to what it became, a real ship of theseus problem in terms of sound, aesthetics, etc.

[@regressionbegins]

addendum: I'm 43 lol

[@JCridford]

Entirely worth it for Finn's mid-southern English at 8:47. Mopey pop-rock and fings: it's like being back in my hometown! We need a follow-up video on Brandon the P**** Master.

[@b.w.22]

Man, this was a trip, Finn. JtG made me look at parcour as well and I enjoyed this crossover immensely. I do think he must have watched your vid for some context, though it’s likely Wikipedia would have provided much of that as well. But man, I laughed when the guy held up Rites of Spring and MCR as albums to be concerned about: for you as a grunge guy, it’d be like someone holding up Nevermind and an MC5 album or something! Or Sabbath. Great vid, homey. :)

[@Juliankb39]

Couldn't care less about the emo thing but those action scenes of you tying your shoes and putting them to the test in the snow was inspiring stuff and I'm going to buy a pair.

[@ashleybrown4754]

Not gonna lie, I want a pair too now

[@aOx666]

Back in 2005-2012ish in the UK it was dangerous at times to be emo and or goth some kids most notably Sophie Lancaster RIP got beaten to death. I myself had guys throw fire works at me as I walked home from school their was a definite hated towards emo or at least a feeling of it was ok to target them amongst a lot of people

[@lethybridtheorygolucastheo2191]

"Will Crawford" Aside from that, they also got bullied for not listening to real rock like The Strokes, The White Stripes, Interpol, Franz Ferdinand, Bloc Party, The Libertines, Arctic Monkeys, The Vines, The Hives, Jet etc

[@theangelbelow88]

As a former emo/scene kid in the mid 2000s, I definitely wear girl pants for years, I swear there wasn't good skinny jeans for guys till like the mid 2010s 🙄

[@DumbTacoBeast]

I remember the boys at school wearing girl pants. Some wore the hip hugger kind and couldn’t zip up over their junk all the way. 🙈😂

[@theangelbelow88]

@@DumbTacoBeast 🤣🤣🤣

[@6MasterWilly6]

I had no idea emo rap was a thing until I went to a ghostemane concert and was researching the opener: lil Tracy. From there, I discovered Peep and GothBoiClique and fell in love. For 2022: my most listened to artist was Drippin So Pretty. High school me who was into Slipknot and asking Alexandria would have been shocked I listen to something other than metal!!!

[@RafitoOoO]

the overlapping between scene and emo was so big that I didn't discover scene until like 2020. For me it was all emo lol.

[@apanapandottir205]

I'm from stockholm, sweden, and in 2003 when my class "graduated" "high school" we had a big sign with the word EMO written on it. One guy in our class was deep into stuff like the get up kids and it became sort of an in joke.

[@apanapandottir205]

To be fair it was a music orientated school.

[@kana7715]

man, emo was really big everywhere, it's insane. I'm from brazil and i remember all the emo brazillian bands that got MASSIVE success just following the already big success of american bands in brazil, these bands up until this day fill the biggest stadiums in brazil for several shows. LATAM ate emo so much, all my friends still have their hair damaged from that era

[@LutherusPandragon]

I remember back then in my home city a kid was beaten to death for being emo. That where 2000s for emo kids in Europe

[@SynoJi]

In Syria 2013 my brother had his ID broken by the cops and almost arrested because he was wearing an A7X t-shirt

[@christopherwarren168]

I literally had to replay the Brandon Birmingham interview over and over. I hope that guy is doing well these days and has many homies now.

[@luisB_OG]

You definitely missed the war on emo in the US. 😭😭 They really did not allow anyone in school to dress or express themselves in an emo aesthetic, it definitely had so much negativity attached to it. I remember feeling ashamed of admitting that's what I was. I'd say I wasn't emo or scene but I definitely loved both.

[@oldsmobilethompson1658]

My emo phase was very short lived. Yes, I had textbook adolescent suicidal tendencies and did eventually cut, but I suppose we were hip enough despite being on the edge of the burbs to not totally pigeonhole ourselves as one type. With being a skateboarder as sort of a foundation, we could wear punk and metal and emo and screamo shirts and even tye-dye in late 2005 and 2006 as Emo segwayed into the 2007 Scene explosion. My first memory of Emo was Hawthorne Heights on FUSE TV. After a summer of Motion City Soundtrack listening, I was listening to the 3 songs on the Senses Fail website repeatedly. Emos were hated for being different as well as being just another bandwagon. By the time we went to the Summer Slaughter Tour in 2007 we were out of it and on to challenging ourselves with metal riffs

[@d_hurl]

Back in the day I was into punk rock & emos were my sworn enemies. But I too had to buy girl pants- I even had to settle for bootcuts cause I got all my pants from thrift stores. You did what you had to do.

[@siouxsiexymox6594]

That's so ironic because emo was literally born from hardcore punk In the late 80s and 90s that's literally what emo meant emotional punk music

[@Chill-mm4pn]

@@siouxsiexymox6594 Love that screen name.🦇

[@Chill-mm4pn]

I remember the girl jeans being a thing with the Emo guys. I wore straight legged jeans and wide legged black cargos with a slit for extra wide leggedness back then lol. (Gotta show off those knee high T.U K. boots) I sure as hell couldn't rock the skinny bondage pants (Dogpile brand) they hurt! I mean damn, no crotch room at all!😂 I remember the thriftstore days, the diy projects. Never hated the Emo kids though. I just saw us all as misfits.

[@d_hurl]

@@siouxsiexymox6594 I hear ya, we shoulda been friends. They were collectively Dbags (@least in LA) & treated us like freaks. They were preppy & by the early 00s they seemed to be devoid of any recognizable ethos. & those girl pants had tiny awkward crotches!

[@theragoooverlord5021]

@@siouxsiexymox6594 emo was born from clueless fad chasers wanting to be seen as different. Records companies, wal mart and eventually hot topic took your money.

[@somebenlongdude7466]

As someone who grew up with mental health issues in small town northern ontario, and fell way into that second wave of emo and into the third wave

[@DrDipsh1t]

I could definitely see how emo music could tip someone. I love mcr, but "headfirst for halos" and "demolition lovers" (2 of my favorite songs by them) could be seen as glorifying death to a vulnerable person.

[@Obironnkenobi]

I remember the "Punch an Emo" day. My band had a show either the weekend before or the weekend after and a couple guys came to the show and started picking fights with any "guys wearing eyeliner" and after a bit of yelling at random people and pushing them, the cops showed up and told them they had to leave. Found out 2 weeks later that the guys were Juggalos. Felt it was kind of dumb that they were going after guys wearing makeup after hearing that.

[@angelaaltman864]

You are right that parents today should be glad to have emo kids. My 15 year old twin boys have recently been exploring their musical tastes. One listens to Green Day, Offspring and Red Hot Chili Peppers (that last one hurts the most 🤮) and the other one loves SOAD, Fallout Boy, Sum41, Blink, and can name a ton of bands that I listened to 20 years ago. I tested him and he knew more band names and song lyrics than me, all because he listens to Spotify. He knew Red Jumpsuit Apparatus, Asking Alexandria but didn't know Chunk No Captain Chunk. He got about 95% of the band names correct and I'm so proud...plus, my boys have stepped away and rejected their father's love of country music, thank the gods 😏

[@joshuaholman7760]

I rejected my dad's family love of country music for alternative/emo music lol. And amongst my other 2 siblings, I'm the only one that enjoys it. My little sister is big into hip hop, my step brother is all over the place, then there's me that listens to metal-core, emo and all the good shit. My family still hates it😂😂. Though I never was emo.

[@ryounyan]

I'm kind of opposite my dad listens to bands like indian summer and i listen to Alan Jackson

[@joshuaholman7760]

@Hsotle tbh, old school Alan Jackson, Clinton black and George straight are great. It's the shit that came after like 95 and 2000 that is beyond insufferable. My family to this day can't understand how I can go from listening to all the good old country artists, to Emo, post hardcore/hardcore and all the other stuff. I simply tell them that what country turned into was so awful I couldn't take it. My entire family hated and still hates that I got into the music I did.

[@ryounyan]

@@joshuaholman7760 this is literally the same exact experience for me hahaha. And yeah honestly i can't get myself to listen to almost any country after the 90s god it's so damn awful

[@joshuaholman7760]

@Hsotle I actually mock it every time my parents turn modern country on its that bad. I'm 31 and bitch like when I was 15 about it😂. Like how did they go from good shit like Killin Time and Neon Moon, to whatever the fuck they play now??? So tragic. And when they'd try to shame me for my music, id just tell them that the leap between Clinton blacks Killing Time/ Neon moon by Brooks and Dunn, and stuff by saosin and Thursday isn't that big. Just minor lyrical content and style. There's tons of other songs, but those stand out to me the most

[@mxrocketbeats]

I had totally forgotten until I saw this video, one of the news clips from this video is from my hometown, the one with Tami Osbourne and Milo Smith, oh man the memories! The clip went viral back then but i havent seen it in a long time

[@NottyGurlStyle]

I miss all of this…when I got into rock music in the 90s being an oreo (as I was called in High School) I so enjoyed going to the village and just seeing all kinds of styles that represent a music choice. Me I was full on grunge and I would wear my bf’s clothes at the time. Big Jnco jeans, flannel shirt…I loved it..but I also love seeing the long haired metal guys, the goths / Emo just walking about. I would switch my look as well as I got older but it was just fun to watch…I enjoyed the look and the creative way each person did their look. Even in the 2000s it’s was cool to see it until it died out. . Now everyone is older and they time faded…but I still miss it…Things in the rock world felt more alive and interesting….Emo had a good run in fashion & music..it was good(at least for me) when it was lasted. Maybe in other places it’s still a thing but here in New York..I don’t see kids dress like that anymore. I still enjoy my fingerless gloves or my hobo gloves as my mom (rest her soul) use to call it back then lol I need a new pair

[@TheRareVideosXL]

Emo died literally overnight but it was fun while it lasted. Great video as always. Keep it up.

[@9288Savior]

Pause at 2:09 That's musician MC Devvo aka Darren Devonshire and David Firth in the background (the creator of Salad Fingers animation)

[@artex271]

Love that video too finn ..so I say just go please Dave just drive get us as far as far can be get us away from tonight-saves the day

[@fail_master_z]

That was a good vid! Subbed to Jimmy's channel

[@ricardoguajardo5343]

Hahahhaha yeah, the famous pokemones here in Chile. They were a combination of the emo aesthetic but mostly of them listened reggeaton...it was really weird

[@pavlomelnikov3549]

Thank you Finn and Thank you JimmyTheGiant for nostalgia overdose :)

[@napesdrk1174]

My band/bedroom recordings were absolutely up on MySpace, Jimmy is Awsome too, his Vid on SchoolBoy was great I am now subscribed to all Arm wresting pages.

[@Bimmer_MD]

Hahaha LMFAO 😂....your comment about Jimmy's parkour video is so on point

[@Gabrielthielen]

“They should’ve went after the dgent kids” 😂 had me laughing so hard

[@LionTheMisfit]

I love how half the video was just Finn mocking this dudes accent

[@AnthonyChaos13]

Speaking on the weak thing you said at 20:00 there were a lot of people who didn't stand up for themselves back then. But me being raised in a different type of household (parents being gang members and the such but accepting of who i was) the biggest thing i hated was bullies. So here i was 150 pounds of glory wearing skinny jeans standing up to bullies because I couldn't let my friends be subjected to abuse. Not feared by the jocks but respected I suppose. Lol I had issues with emotions and still do but I was raised to stand up for myself and never let someone speak down on me. So I guess I was a rare emo but I couldn't let others get bullied.

[@lavenderllamamusic]

I was emo/scene adjacent in middle school, as i was definitely more of a pop-punk kid compared to my scene friends. I casually enjoyed the hits from MCR, Paramore, Panic!, etc. but bands like Green Day and Blink had my full attention. I didn't get into emo more until my early 20s. Then last year, at 24, i came across the wonderful world of "skramz" Emoviolence is wild. Love me some Orchid and Pageninetynine lol

[@defendska2158]

I have a few of my clothes from then and I have no idea how I fit into them. My parents were quite upset when they found out I was wearing eyeliner. I got tired of the darkness and have been mostly into ska the last 10 years.

[@vonNachtmahr]

Before emo became a thing I was hanging out with goths, post-punks and ebm/industrial guys. We always made fun of these stylishly coiffed kids that arrived in their branded clothes. And then they all had the same hairstyle and told you how optionally sad or evil the world is to them. Some have then bragged that they had scars on the arms and blah blah blah. For me this whole emo thing was really a terrible trend that raped alternative rock. They wanted to look like goths and be cool like nu metal listeners at the same time. And they wanted to do hardcore (post-hardcore) and be as emotional and earthy as grunge. And for me, emo failed all the way. I really don't miss that stuff at all.

[@sumdude116]

I love your videos Finn. I think the point is to make people think. I can't put into words what makes your videos so special. But they are.

[@FinnMckentyPRMBA]

Thank you!

[@sumdude116]

@@FinnMckentyPRMBAAnytime friend. Maybe we can meet at a show one day.

[@WaterShipdown66]

I remember seeing my chem in middle school at the forum in Inglewood back in 07/08 nd the news where they're recording people

[@SilkandScrooge]

I have always argued that I wasn’t goth or emo when I was younger. I was just trying to look like a rockstar. More inspired by the Motley Crue chad energy. Sometimes the look just means you like music a lot.

[@zoezilla3710]

Hey Finn I wanted to say that I think you and Jimmy should do a compilation video or something together that'd be cool I enjoy both of your guys's video.. That parkour video and the scooter video were both killer videos by Jimmy the Giant..

[@frederickdelius1106]

Jimmy really does make great stuff. Hes a genius behind the camera

[@deriansilva368]

Cap n’ Jazz has a huge cross over into the math rock scene thanks to AF, the math rock scene is considerably large in England during 2005-2015

[@TimboSlice69420]

Bro cheemos were such a big thing when I was at school! Picture like a standard chav but he's got that full fringe Justin Bieber haircut; either like snake bites or an ear stretcher maybe an eyebrow piercing; wearing like joggy bottoms; either a football or metalcore t-shirt Adidas hoodie and a classic vintage cookie monster/obey snap back lmao. We all hung out through smoking at the back of high school and we'd all drink buckfast and smoke bad dope together in the woods at the weekend... A simpler time, a better time

[@sheldoncooper8199]

The Australian Band Twelve Foot Ninja has a Really Cool Video including Parcour its the One with the Skelleton Face Girls in the Thumbnail.

[@d3ricc]

It’s the year of our lord 2022 and we’re still waiting on that Tumblr video we were promised

[@eightfootmanchild]

The real question is, how long til we get a "retro emo" comeback?

[@nottelling3429]

Two of my favorite KZbinrs!

[@thenewwavejoeshow]

Like so many other sub-genre's EMO came and went, and then came back again. It started in the 80's with EMOCORE and reached it's highpoint in the mid-2000's, after various manifestations, which continue today.

[@mohammadkabeer7340]

Dude I found out about American football and cap n jazz way before I discovered your channel

[@TheCivildecay]

Rock music only matters if there is a moral panic

[@stephenmoore2840]

I am of emo age but I never really got it. I was listening to GBH, The Exploited, Discharge etc so where I lived me and a few friends were the outsiders of the outsiders. But with a punk scene which is still going I never really gave emo much attention other than not really liking it. Interesting to see that it caused that much upset for the mainstream. I guess with uk82 band's still gigging (UK subs are still going) it's easy to put yourself in a music eco chamber. When we were young festival made me realise how big emo still is with my generation

[@Kyle4OH8]

19:50 I remember I was at Hoodsfest 2005 or 06 and the band was chilling in front of the venue and a scene /emo kid walked past and they lit that poor kid up calling him gay and making fun of his clothes

[@zorkwhouse8125]

I genuinely miss the ability on Myspace to post playlists that would automatically start playing when someone went to your page.

[@plantifulalexandra]

You could still do that on your website though as a webdesigner in 2022 I wouldn't recommend doing so, haha.

[@Luissv72]

Finn saying Panic hasn't been emo in a long time acting like Paramore's last "emo" album wasn't in 2009 when Panic's was in 2011, arguably even 2013 depending on how you view Too Weird to Live Too Young to Die

[@RB-jf5ww]

Yes, I can’t testify that it is true. Baghdad, baqubah, and Basrah we’re all pretty modern and liberal early on in the war. Then you had us soldiers coming over, who are mostly 18-26, and mixing with the population. Couple that with the bazars that were set up on every base, where Iraqis from the local community would work, and you had significant culture sharing. A few of my terps LOVED TBS and MCR. Then finally, you had the shaw and Sunni fanatics taking power after we toppled saddam, this left EMO and other forms of punk as the perfect rebellion. Unlike here, it was a rebellion that cost them something… many of them died, and I would guess all that we left behind either died or donned traditional garb. I still have friends over there… now you make me want to email them and ask. If I hear anything I’ll let you know.

[@alvatrous]

13:08 yeah i distinctly remember when FOB this aint a scene was everywhere but it felt different to me as a middle schooler like it was a cresting wave and I was right. to me it was a few things that killed rock and alt cultures. dubstep and being a "gangster" became cool again. we had the song like a g6 take over. suddenly being edgy was looking a bit more hood and not wearing black clothes and spikes.

[@vin_fm2354]

My uncle saw rites of spring and beefeater in 1985 and i’m so jealous

[@maxpalmer3212]

I’m 23 years old and my little sister talks shit about Emo’s all the time it’s really upsetting I try and explain it to her and she doesn’t want to listen

[@Squeekyflamingo89]

Why does noone talk about taking back Sunday!? Like there wasn't cute without the e quotes on everyone's myspace

[@typicaldemoness6x111]

I remember being “scene” and getting mad about being called emo. Oddly enough, I did end up on Is Anyone Up thanks to Jonny Craig. We were the joke and I do take pride in that. We were still technically the “elder emos” even though we were teens in that era. Jonny ruined my life for awhile.

[@FinnMckentyPRMBA]

IAU was so awful. I wish Hunter was still in prison

[@loompy1440]

Wow the Stickam reference is a deep cut. A dude I knew R-ed a girl LIVE on that supposedly. 2006-8 was around the time the super edgy scene kids had their hard drug phase.