Empty Void vs Cosmic Garou is NOT Close.

[@SatorisYT]

Extra notes: my head canon to explain why Blast's fist bump teleport is seemingly so much faster than his regular combat speed is similar to that of Netero from Hunter x Hunter where he trained to master one specific movement or notion so much that it soared beyond his normal speed limits. Also, for the exponential growth, it is stated Saitama's abilities were rising. Not power specifically, all of his abilities in general. That would include speed, for anyone who is skeptical of the argument used in the video. Also whenever Garou grows in strength, his speed grows too. That happens in like every single fight, his stats correlate. So yeah.

[@kriptonitegamer777]

Hard hat boros at 1% power: weaklings

[@Bonbon-ex2lo]

Can you power scale current boros in your what if series? Because i am curious to see how strong he has become.

[@caindain2179]

Fuck yeah 🎉😂

[@tonythomas55]

@@SatorisYT abilities were rising not power?? R u fuking serious bro??.. What fuking abilities do saitma have other than strngth?? And where the fuk did u see his abilities was rising?? How old r even?

[@Steven_178]

It's still crazy to think that garou had his own growth combined with copying saitama and still lost to saitamas exponential growth how fast was saitama growing anyway

[@EditGoji]

Void is very impressive, but Garou at his peak was basically just a weaker Saitama with a bunch of crazy hax stacked on top. The winner is pretty clear IMO

[@_------------_]

Void is not at full power relax

[@neopy1578]

You mean wayyyyyyyy and I MEAN wayyyyy weaker then Saitama right.

[@Eshury]

​@@neopy1578nope. At some point they were VERY CLOSE as per the graph showed in the manga.

[@DeJaVu804]

@@Eshurythis… it’s like some people failed to understand a very simple graph that was drawn up so even a child would be able to follow. Yet I got into an argument with a couple low IQ people over this fact given to us in the manga. Once the fight got serious on a different planet Garou had caught up to serious Saitama (1 handed but still serious). The graph shows them both growing in power levels through out the fight it’s just Saitama’s growth started leaving Garou in the dust.

[@callisto1796]

@@DeJaVu804 at his peak vs saitama “peak” based off the graph garou was way weaker

[@Vantud391]

The Strongest God Avatar of Today vs The Strongest God Avatar in History. . Remember that Cosmic Garou energy that Void was absorb is the version that already copy Saitama once, although not serious mode but still.

[@Mope333]

And Void called that energy a FAILURE lol

[@tommycapone8926]

Normal consecutive punches ain’t got shit on serious Saitama Garou even states this

[@courve]

If he was able to copy Saitama, then the chart that Garou provided wouldn’t make sense. He was copying what he clearly understood to be the best approximation based on energy flow, but Garou realized soon that he wasn’t actually keeping pace at all. Kind of an insult to the creators to misunderstand this considering how meticulous they are.

[@Vantud391]

Void called Garou a failure because he resisted God​, not because of his power@@Mope333

[@caoinismyname]

The fact that version copied Saitama is irrelevant though. Thinking in games, copying abilities doesn't equal copying active buffs. We can say the techniques Garou copied from Saitama are active buffs as it wasn't inherent and only due to him fighting Saitama.

[@kriptonitegamer777]

Garou my goat will clear I’m sure Edit: YESSSSS! MY GOAT GAROU STILL THE MOST POWERFUL THING SAITAMA HAS FOUGHT!

[@sauce8148]

raw headcanon

[@kriptonitegamer777]

@ I guess ur not wrong 😑

[@_------------_]

Not for long, void bout to change that

[@kriptonitegamer777]

@ I hope so that would give boros and indirect power buff off saitama

[@onepain2217]

It’s futile murata wouldn’t introduce a weaker main villain than the previous one cuz there will be no development

[@ya_got_cooked]

empty void "perfect avatar" vs cosmic garou "failed avatar"

[@trickeruniverse1979]

@@ya_got_cooked he called Garou a failed avatar because Garou resisted God and was rebellious. Not because he was weak or anything. Cosmic Garou beats void.

[@callisto1796]

@@trickeruniverse1979 he’s weaker he didn’t take the full hand of god the full hand of god = more power therefore he’s weaker unless proven otherwise

[@tonythomas55]

​@@callisto1796 so by ur logic homeless emperor is stronger than cosmic garou since he didnt resist like garou?? Grow ur brain kiddo.. No feat for void yet and void earlier got folded by blast and was in comatose for 15 year.. Garou was folding blast.. Cosmic garou>>>>>>>> void(feat less) any day.

[@callisto1796]

@ he was as strong as blast when he was human not comparable homeless emperor was just a normal human had no potential

[@tonythomas55]

@@callisto1796 so potential was a factor?? So how do u came into on conclusion void got more potential?? Void still got folded by blast 15 years ago even after absorbing power. By ur logic current void is also weakest since he got garous factor which resist gods will 😇

[@wardkelvin]

Cosmic Garou >> Empty Void: 1. Cosmic Garou copies every move, everything, even if Empty Void teleports to a strange space, Cosmic Garou can still do it because Garou's ability is to copy everything. 2. Cosmic Garou on Jupiter is too strong for Empty Void to resist. I think the moves and techniques that Blast uses against Empty Void are basic and don't do much damage. Just look at Cosmic Garou, they are all terrible nuclear punches, even getting stronger. 3. Those who say Blast has to restrain himself when facing Cosmic Garou are lying. Cosmic Garou even criticized Blast to his face, even though he is strong, he is not good enough. 4. Martial arts genius Copying and improving every type of martial arts like Cosmic Garou is not something you can eat if you like. 5. Cosmic Garou's power increases exponentially when fighting Saitama with equipment. You think Void can withstand a Saitama sneezing flying about 150 Earths like Cosmic Garou. 6. The theory of dimensions is so bad because, with Cosmic Garou, just a glance is enough for him to understand and use it even better than the old version. 7. Mode: Saitama.

[@GameZone-m5r]

Garou can't use time travel without Saitama while the Void ignores cause and effect and melts into a higher dimension which Garou is incapable of doing and he can't copy what he can't see.

[@captainb.mccrea5480]

@@GameZone-m5rSaitama>>>>>Empty Void Garou: *Copies Saitama’s strength* Basic logic indicates; Cosmic Garou>>>Empty Void

[@whole_wheat_soup9321]

​@@GameZone-m5rcorrect me if I'm wrong, but did you seriously just say garou can't time travel without saitama???? who tf do you think taught saitama how to do it?

[@wardkelvin]

@UNlimit-gin Ok I read all chapters

[@wardkelvin]

@@GameZone-m5r You are completely wrong, in a battle without GOD controlling, Garou is capable of time travel. Garou himself taught Saitama how to do it. OK But just because God is taking back the "God Power" from Garou, Garou can't do it if Saitama doesn't do it for him.

[@floppy3962]

the slash ignores distance and speed NOT time. the slashes time is relative to voids speed outside of causality and how fast he can slash through the universe. He might be able to slash through it in a 10th of a second, but the distance is whats ignored, he could slash through a planet in a 10th of a second, or he could slash through an atom. the energy being ignored is the same, but alot more negation. if void can slash through the orb outside of causality then he can slash through whatever is infront of him. It might take 10 calories to slash through the orb, but thats either a planet or an atom again ^ this is also what i believe the "depends on the subject" is refering too

[@SuperKamiGuruu]

Fundamentally ignoring distance is ignoring time.

[@7upinthenite]

idk, i just CANT see Empty Void winning against Prime Cosmic Garou. I just cant.

[@Mope333]

Why? 😂 he’s 5D while Garou just Uni and below

[@7upinthenite]

@@Mope333 Well by that definition Saitama too.

[@Mope333]

@@7upinthenite Actually he is lol, actually higher than that. He destroyed a (6D) Spiritual realm by Phoenix man, just by knocking which left holes in the real world. Webcomic and its canon

[@Jim-rs1hn]

​@@Mope333??? Void's normal speed and durability and so without dimension slash isn't 5d, that's his biggest issue in power scaling..... Garou has physical stats over Void still in a 1v1 if void doesn't get dimension slash he loses( garou has blast abilities to teleport away)

[@Mope333]

@@Jim-rs1hn Void faster too, he’s a Speedster just like Flashy and Sonic. His Normal speed is on par with Cosmic Garou, mind you… Blast is also very fast but Void fasted. They was fighting in less than 3 seconds 🥶 when Flashy caught Blast shades

[@CalculusIsFun1]

5:33 no. It’s actually even faster than that in the long term. What you are describing (x^2) is a power function, not a exponential. (in the form ax^b) an exponential function would follow the form ab^x where x is the independent variable. If we consider the limit as (ab^x)/(x^n) goes to infinity and then account for the indeterminate form with n many lhoptials rules we get that the limit diverges to infinity. This proves an exponential will always grow faster than a power function if it is in the form ab^x. What I’m saying is: their growth isn’t squared, its more like their strength at an instant is a factor of their strength at the next instant. It is actually even faster in the long run than x^2. Kinda crazy huh?

[@dingoflex9338]

So how strong did Saitama & Garou grew in your opinion?

[@JackRippa-bq9qo]

Exactly my arguments

[@1lure2fish]

Empty void hit us with the " okay I understand it now" 😂

[@SatorisYT]

@@1lure2fish 🤣

[@MetalKnight0]

8:00 EV did not had killing intent on Blast, also Blast himself admitted that EV was holding back.

[@tommycapone8926]

That still doesn’t change his point about speed/reaction because blast is also holding back to bring void back to his senses. Garou scales massively above blast in speed and has his portal ability to and Garou can always use mode void

[@MetalKnight0]

@@tommycapone8926 That does not prove in any way how Garou is massively above Blast. Blast was holding back on Garou as well, he wanted to shift Garou to a different dimension, was concerned about earth and did not had killing intent on Garou. Blast later moves at a speed faster than the combined speed of Saitama and Garou, and blitzes them before they can connect their punch. We do not see Saitama use that level of power at IO ever again, him getting exponentially stronger does not mean he is using all that power. None of Saitama's punch even after exponential growth were anywhere close to the AP of seriour punch squared. So again Garou adapting to future Saitama does not prove he is faster than Blast who reacted to seriour punch squared. In fact Saitama himself was confused by the speed as he could comprehend how far he was thrown. Also, Blast does not want to kill EV but is completely serious about capturing him, that does not mean he can use his FULL speed and power to Capture him. As we later see, there was no reason for Blast to ball down his speed, yet he could not react to a restrained EV moving into higher dimension. Again Blast could not react to a blitz kick from EV. Later on he has his arm chopped off, could not react on time, no reason to hold back his speed, he can use his full speed just to defend himself. And then openly admits that had EV been serious Blast would be dead, which again proves Blast is nowhere near EV.

[@invictus6176]

@@MetalKnight0 ur copium goes hard icl

[@MetalKnight0]

@@invictus6176What? I did quoted manga extracts to whatever I said. This EV lowballing is getting out of hand.

[@invictus6176]

@@MetalKnight0 Nobodys lowballing hes just not as strong as Peak Garou. if you wanna argue regular garou sure idc

[@Zesty828-i1s]

FF was able to sense it cuz before he touched the cube which is sort of divine power. It's only the consistent answer of it, doesn’t debunk DS

[@justsomeguywithatoupee8244]

I agree. Everyone's tryna nitpick the DS to nerf it. I swear, it's stated that the slash ignores, distance, space, and energy. The slash is shown being used from a higher dimension. The images of the slash supposedly moving are literally just to display the oncoming doom that the characters are facing. Blast and Flash can sense the slash before it's thrown and aren't reacting to it. The attack's speed is effectively infinite with it ignoring distance.

[@TheWildCard2k]

Saying garou upscales from anything void does is silly from the one fact that garou at his peak said he couldn't manipulate causality the same way we see void doing

[@SatorisYT]

@@TheWildCard2k Sure, his God powers aren't as refined, but physically he massively upscales from any feat Void has until Void is confirmed exponentially greater than Blast, which isn't gonna happen most likely. Void has higher level God powers, but Garou is physically just in a whole other tier entirely. And he could copy Void's powers anyway.

[@RanceMalakas]

The key word for this is “Speedblitz” and “power”

[@Randomnoob451]

9:14: I wouldn’t say Garou has the same teleportation as Blast, since Garou only has Blasts portal, not his actual teleportation ability. Since Void says Blasts needs to clash his fists to teleport, that implies his black hole teleportation and portals are 2 different things, since he doesn’t need to put his hands together to make portals, but does to make the black hole things. Imo, Void vs Base Cosmic Garou (basically Cosmic Garou without copying Saitama) is debatable, but peak Cosmic Garou vs Void is just a complete stomp in Garou’s favor. W vid like usual

[@ambush4144]

Garou can teleport

[@heroricspiritfreinen38]

​@@ambush4144no shit

[@heroricspiritfreinen38]

Issue is people forgot that garou actually surpassed saitama himself many times. Saitama just kept reaching new strength

[@BeastXIS]

Blast can make portals with God's power of light. He made one when fighting Blast just before copying Blast's power of darkness

[@callisto1796]

@@heroricspiritfreinen38surpassed means he was stronger than Saitama Garou was never stronger than Saitama at any moment unless u went back in time then yes

[@CausalViewer23]

It’s sad that Boros is definitely not in the top 5 anymore. Although if we use what if Boros then it’s a different story.

[@BlueAkaBlastsSon1]

Strongest Avatar vs Failed Creation

[@davidvasquez7438]

I remember when my goat Boros was still the strongest villain in opm, good times 😞

[@SatorisYT]

@@davidvasquez7438 Indeed

[@Amazing-o3q]

the dimensional slash is a god power, so Blast can sense it because he can sense god's presence. Flashy flash included, because he had direct contact with god, along with having touched a cube during the MA arc. It seems that God is sort of an informational hazard, this was implied before by Homeless Emperor's death (he wasn't allowed to talk about God and merely knowing about his existance meant homeless was instantly bound to god's will after he got his powers, meanwhile Garou did not properly understand God and therefore could resist his influence better, of course along with having the "dark nature" thing) the dimensional slash being shown as travelling is pretty weird I admit, but maybe it's just visual flair? Maybe blast sensed the slash before it was thrown, so he managed to react because he had a headstart? I don't know. I haven't finished watching your explanation, I might add. Anyways, saying it ignores distance but then the slash travels? Utterly bizarre, I agree. Maybe that will be changed or explained better. Or maybe we will need to see this fight animated... in 2060 or something

[@GameZone-m5r]

Notice that it only uses the slash size, not the others.

[@Amazing-o3q]

@GameZone-m5r What do you mean?

[@GameZone-m5r]

@Amazing-o3q Void can ignore distance, size and energy, but currently only uses size, even this is said in the previous chapter when he cut the mountains and clouds and look, he attacks the ground and then the attack goes to the people!

[@Amazing-o3q]

@@GameZone-m5r I do not remember it being mentioned he only wanted to use size at the moment, but yes, that would make sense if true.

[@GameZone-m5r]

@Amazing-o3q there is no mention of anyone saying it! but the attack only changes shape, and the attack is called size (forgot the other one) in the last chapter when the narrator says it. And see that the attack does not fall on the people but to another place, and then it goes to them.

[@ragnastepzero7248]

I think i got the exact same opinion as you about this topic. For some random reason i see lots people doing vs fights with cosmic garou without taking into account of his main ability, copy. Sure Void can be stronger then Base Cosmic Garou, but it doesn't really matter if Garou is gonna just insta copy him, his skills and his stats, and even improve on it. Specially since he got to do hand signs to go into the higher dimension.

[@angeleleison]

There is one argument here. Garou was not able to overcome causality due to lack of power while void can. Is also shown that void is holding back with blast since he doesn't want to kill him due to "hatred"

[@ibrahimahm3d]

Garou had the universal design while Void’s depicts a multiverse

[@devolzre]

Even Garou didnt fully embrace God's Power hes still strong due to his copy and adaptability now imagine if he fully take God's Power. Terra 3 Garou will be the full power of him

[@InfiniteNight1653]

Empty void about to take an L

[@_------------_]

He just took a W

[@5golibhai]

cosmic garou saitama mode is not even close empty voids hair

[@thatanimegirlwiththecape4807]

​@@5golibhai unless we get an empty void saitama mode

[@5golibhai]

@@thatanimegirlwiththecape4807 bro current saitama is weaker than weak ev

[@thatanimegirlwiththecape4807]

@@5golibhai lol

[@mccharles1257]

A pretty simple counter to a lot of these arguments is the fact that Blast himself said he couldn't sense the "bottom" of Saitama's power, implying it's significantly above his own

[@_------------_]

You are very wrong Base void should be equal to blast. Garou needed to copy blast to be stronger, blast was also holding back when he fought garou only playing defensive. Blast had 15 years of prep time to deal with void, and he has the power of dark which counters void light. Void is a better vessel than garou because he fully embraces god, void was nerfed because had emotions of garou. Garou can't copy him if he can't see him, void can dimension slash him anytime anywhere he wants, void also can absorb him which negs copying. When he transformed to cosmic form he was able to grab spacetime and use it as a blanket.

[@gomshom67iscool23]

are you forgetting about his buff on one of jupiter's moon

[@Mope333]

@@gomshom67iscool23Void still wins

[@boilingman972]

​@@Mope333garou one shots

[@Mope333]

@ Doubt, he’s doing that to a guy that grabbed space like a Blanket. Garou was spooked by seeing Saitama sneeze away Jupiter

[@tommycapone8926]

@@Mope333 that same Saitama would 1 tap void so irrelevant.

[@quanftw5059]

Should be noted that Void is never stated to exist outside the causality of the universe. It’s the higher dimension that is. Only when he’s outside does he resist causality due to not being bound by it on that instance.

[@quickhallsshow576]

With the new OPM chapter, cosmic garou is leagues ahead of empty fraud

[@SatorisYT]

@@quickhallsshow576 Yeah, the latest chapter pretty much just hammered down on everything that was said in this video. Empty Void turns put to be empty talk.

[@quickhallsshow576]

@@SatorisYT real LOL

[@BlueAkaBlastsSon1]

WHAT IS THIS MEAT RIDING DAWG 😂😂🫵

[@zacharywilson419]

Void is fighting blast and so far blast is doing ok with the damage void can throw but I would like to point out that the punch between Garou and satiama required 4 people at the level of blast to redirect the blast and even then with 4 people combined it’s pretty clear it over loaded the dimensional gate and sent garou and saitama to io.

[@Abhishek-hs8zi]

Murata is cooking can't wait for next chapter

[@Kindergard]

Empty Void was embodyment of Power Scalper, he will roam to the multiverse just to obtain power

[@CT16_C]

This info is either from estimations of Chat GBT or other peoples calculations, so don’t fact check. This is just ment as an estimation. Part 1, estimation of Saitamas Sneeze before his exponantial growht from the anime season 2 specials episode 6: (From chat GBT) Thus, to break the window at 20 meters, the shockwave source must generate enough energy for at least 279,020J, ensuring that the energy density remains sufficient to deliver about 55,51J to the window itself. Part 2, estimation of Saitamas sneeze after his exponantial growht during his fight with Garou: 3.2×10^39J From the web Part 3, calculating his sneeze’s growth from season 2 specials episode 6 to during his fight with Garou: 3,206*10^39 devided by 2,79*10^5 = 1,15*10^34J Part 4, finding Saitamas serios punch^2 AP: 2.43×10^63J From the web Part 5, multiplying his serious punch^2 by his growht between season 2 specials episode 6 and his sneeze during his fight with Garou: 2.43×10^63J * 1,15*10^34J = 2,7945*10^97J From Chat GBT: The estimated total energy of all the stars in the observable universe over its entire lifespan is about 10^69J Your energy value is approximately 10^28 times larger than this. I know this is not totally accurate, but an estimation. Which makes his strenght far greater then universal.

[@azazelito8906]

This has the same validation as to scale saitama from below mosquito level to planet baster

[@masscreationbroadcasts]

Wait, this is minimally edited? Compared to what? The Genos slideshow? This looks like normal editing.

[@CromWell-t7z]

All "God's" avatar are very ability oriented except for Cosmic Garou has a bonus ability of increasing his stats. We know this because Dr. Genus said that "God" place limits on the living being. The reason why Empty Void said Cosmic Garou is a failed avatar is because he saw Cosmic Garou getting cracked not knowing it was Saitama.

[@ImHereCookin]

We gotta wait. But, something HAS to be addressed that Noone brings to the table. When ppl compare garou with Void/Blast or ANY future god avatar/hero they need to exclude "Modes" out of the equasion. Why? Modes power is NOT on God avatar lvl, its WAY beyond that. Its a literal plot powers granted by One, so he could match what cant be matched (Saitama) WHICH becomes the teaser for Saitama vs God and WHICH introduces us to the new era of manga and opens our eyes to the new "truth" of the grander scale of whats happening. EV is just "another" avatar in that Era, he aint "THE AVATAR", the main saga antagonist, the one who welcomed us there. So not only Garou cant be beaten with modes, cuz again when we deal with such godly powers, using modes implies an absolute gap that is impossible to bridge otherwise thus cheat codes are needed which is why its only used for Saitama lol. Even if EV is by settup way above garou, the fact he is even remotely related to him power wise in any way it means that modes are absolutely above anything EV can do. So Saitama Mode Garou aka peakest Garou possible will upscale the whole verse forever until we see Saitama vs God. So Peak Garou literally negs EV with 1 shot. Now NORMAL garou w/o modes seems to be STILL above Blast. Blast is JUST a backup for his team. Garou is Dark Cosmic and EV is light cosmic (dark=good, light= evil for opm?). They are both (even by art portrayal) relative which makes sense since EV took garous power thus some of his potential FOR SURE which is how he overcame Blast (and since he is evil he didnt resist god like garou and so the cosmic color is light) Saitama most likely will fight EV, then we will TRULY see whats up. I doubt he will be able to copy powers, let alone copy faster than garou via ninja hax or something (only way to be above garou). But this would diminish everything i said about the significance of only garou having such OP powers. Saitama--->God--->Garou. Noone is more important than this trinity

[@heroricspiritfreinen38]

Not reading all this

[@ImHereCookin]

@@heroricspiritfreinen38 Ik you read it.

[@Steven_178]

So uh satori saitamas boutta jump in an bite the dimension slash or somehow go outside the causality of the universe thru sheer strength cause that'll be sick

[@Nicache1918]

The moon didn't appear in most of the Ninja arc, which means god didn't even acknowledge void but the moon, jupiter's eye,etc is going on during Sairama vs Garou. I rest my case.

[@MetalKnight0]

9:45 But we have not seen Garou copy a attack of that high AP, not even close it. Dimensional slash is literally a complex multiversal feat, Garou's best feat is galaxy level, if you add exponential scaling you can go upto universal but it is still way lower in AP. Also like you are saying "Garou can just copy", that would mean there are no limits to what Garou can copy, then why did Garou got killed by God? That debunks the fact that Garou can go outside causality.

[@igflxcks8122]

😂

[@moseschanda2259]

The only limits that exists to what Garou can copy is that he has to see the ability to copy it. He couldn't see what god was doing to him, which is taking back his power so it stands to reason he cant copy that.

[@leophoenix1452]

The fact that empty void can go putside reality to causality straight up puts him above garou... Garou has his hacks which is the propensity for adaptation...

[@funnature8679]

I think the garou you are refering to is the one you described(not the Garou at the end of the saitama fight) 4:22 he is also pressured about the explosive and lethal energies stored in his dimension gates, and other things I think Blast was on guard and observing and monitoring to protect SIlverfang and the others, he was thinking, yet once Saitama gets his attention he did that. Saitama get's the cosmic garou's attention for he was about to Serious Punch Saitama.

[@SWY1356]

EV can probs just complain To God, and take Garou's power away hehehehe

[@oiDAJALsiniLawanGua]

Empty void absorbed garou power when garou and saitama havent fights yet because he arrived at different timeline. Empty void doesnt realize how epic the battle between garou and saitama. Emp

[@ExplosiveGrape]

I think if it’s full power Void vs fresh Garou and he just spams the dimension slash before Garou copies and evolves he could pull the victory but otherwise it’s a Garou low-no diff.

[@Mope333]

💀 You know Void is still in base right? He’s beating Garou by feats

[@AndrewGilmet-ci2bj]

@@Mope333 no he is not, he is fighting blast while garou fought saitama, their is a very big difference

[@Mope333]

@@AndrewGilmet-ci2bj Yes, that’s actually his base lol. He stays in base while they redraw him. You’re right, Blast did many punches to Garou but couldn’t do the same to Void. Hmm…. Also Void vs Saitama…. Is gonna be BIGGER

[@AndrewGilmet-ci2bj]

@@Mope333 bro are u dumb. Garou became like 400x stronger than what he was against blast. im talking about garou (saitama mode)

[@N94-z6s]

Let see how empty void perform against saotama.

[@bobbuilder155]

Imagine all turkeys is filled with cheese and pepperoni and garlic sauce and chilli sauce.❤

[@chesswarlock9384]

We don't know. We saw Saitama vs Garou. We haven't seen Saitama vs Empty Void, or a final battle with Empty Void, or his final form or final attack yet, so we can't make a perfect comparison.

[@Mope333]

Seems Void definitely stronger lol

[@tommycapone8926]

@@chesswarlock9384 Saitama vs void would still be ambiguous because we don’t know if Saitama power remained the same from the timelines as both saitamas fused together and current Saitama has no memory of what happened in the past.

[@chesswarlock9384]

@@tommycapone8926 Time travel doesn't affect Saitama's power

[@Goodorevil-69]

Garou couldn’t blitz blast and blast wasn’t going all out he was waiting for ev 15 years he wanted cosmic garou as test subject since he knew he wasn’t fully taken over by god and ev and blast speed is way higher then Garou and saitama juipter feat yeah ev high diffs Garou

[@damarion7923]

Your logic makes absolutely no sense,how can blast and ev be faster then garou and saitama on Jupiter when blast was relative to earth garou in speed and we know garou grew at least 100 times faster on Jupiter

[@Goodorevil-69]

@ listen so when blast took of his glasses and went serious they were moving so fast even flashy flash couldn’t keep up they realised after blast got his arm chopped off and that’s when he caught the glasses

[@damarion7923]

@@Goodorevil-69 what does flashy getting blitzed have to do with cg when monster garou could do the exact same thing to flashy?

[@SatorisYT]

@@Goodorevil-69 Flash is fodder compared to the God tiers

[@Goodorevil-69]

@@SatorisYT he is your right but just shows the level difference

[@MuhammadIqbal-bc4om]

And the dimensional Slash not correctly Ignoring matter and energy because when dimensional Slash come, flashy flash still ca detected it and avoid it make it not ignoring matter and anergy

[@sammcfarlane2494]

Empty Void smashes

[@AbyssOverlord-e8t]

he quite literally gets slapped by garou

[@SWY1356]

​​​@@AbyssOverlord-e8t incorrect, void would atleast put up a fight, before dying

[@trickeruniverse1979]

@@SWY1356lol 100% correct. If empty void fought Saitama, he would get one tapped. Cosmic Garou took that shit multiple times. cosmic garou is just too broken because even if void was stronger, Garou needs to see his abilities 1 time and he would copy all of voids abilities, surpass him and then beat him.

[@sphera4147]

Nah Empty Voids stronger based off feats alone

[@trickeruniverse1979]

@ LMAO no. There is no feats he performed that comes close to what cosmic garou showed against a blood lusted saitama on jupiters moon. Void is NOT keeping up with saitama, he gets one tapped.

[@barnabastoma1075]

Honestly I agree with the conclusion,Void is just didnt shown a feat that indicates he can beat post Io Cosmic Garou,plus arguably Garou can just copy hes abilities lol. Other than that if Garou ecounters with base Empty Void,remember Garou has darkness power which sould mean some of Void's power gets nullified by Garou But on the countrary,I do think you was too harsh on Void,and you made some mistakes: If anything,I think Void sould still be relative in speed with Cosmic Garou. I know it sounds strange,but in order for Garou to be that much faster,you need to assume hes speed grows equally with hes physical stats,which doesn't implied in no shape or form. Plus I might argue Blast scales 2 blitz tiers above Garou. He didn't just blitzed Garou....he blitzed both Saitama and Garou at the same time while the two was charging at each other and they're fists was almost connected. And nothing contradicts this considering the fact Blast was blitzing Garou into oblivion previously. Second the dimension slash is not that predictable as you want it to seem to be. The only reason Flash could predict it,is bcz he knew what is going to happen as he had prior knowledge on how the attack works and how big it is in scale. And even then Flashy was tegged by the attack,by a super casual EV and the guy didn't even wanted to kill him,as Flashy was,,the only one to harvest Also Blast has Cosmic awareness on an interdimensional levelthats how he can sense and dodge it. Remember the same Blast could sense an electromagnetic destortion from another dimension caused by Monster Garou. Third.....Garou only regenerated an arm and you say he can regenerate hes entire body if he gets sliced? Xd.....idk,that sounds silly,sorry without any disrespect,but there is no evidence for it. Also Void's dimension slash is way bigger in scale than Garou's body,I mean if the dimension slash is getting him offguard and gets him,its over,nothing will be left from Garou. Forth is that I dont think Garou would be capable of straight up going into the other dimension....he cannit be BFR-d,but there is no evidence to suggest he can just go into the higher dimension,and this argument gets contradicted by the fact Garou needed to see the earth in order to teleport there,so hes ability isnt that potent. And lastly....there is a good chance that some of Garou's abilities wont even work on Void either(at least on hes cosmic form). The reason is that Void git Garou's factor and got resistence against Blast's darkness power,and thanks to this factor he also has darkness power,meaning he does resists light power aswell,meaning no gravity knuckle,no nuclear fission and all these stuff

[@hamster7290]

tysm for this video. Ngl, it was really making me annoyed how people thought void could beat peak garou. There simply isn't a win condition for him, I wouldn't even put him over initial garou from what we've seen so far because initial garou could just copy everything he does...

[@Nidinabs]

*SPOILERS* As the new chapter just came out like an hour ago as of writing, we learn that saitama can easily stop voids strongest attack, while it took significantly more effort for him to block garous attack, so in other words void is a lot weaker than even starting garou.

[@SuperKamiGuruu]

You're talking about a vastly stronger saitama that did that to void

[@kkisthebomb4205]

@@SuperKamiGuruu ''vastly'' not really...? saitama would of barely even got stronger by that time but sure...he already interacted with a hyperspace gate so he'd 4d at least

[@SuperKamiGuruu]

@@kkisthebomb4205 yes vastly stronger. Or do you not even read opm?

[@MuscleMomAmongUs-i7n]

Not really. Saitama gets stronger everyday.

[@MuscleMomAmongUs-i7n]

Yeah they keep forgetting that Saitama can one shot his previous self like he did in the " Genos simulation VR". Saitama so far above Cosmic fear Garou that someone like Empty Void doesn't stand a chance.

[@kristiqnmitev9649]

I think they are cooking a Saitama vs Void fight in the next chapters. Remember how in the webcomic Saitama is the one who kills him.

[@Authenticnerd123]

Initial cosmic garou was still star level and EV is much stronger now since he regained his original form

[@Drunkgg775]

"Star level" 😂😂😂😂 You never watched opm

[@MetalKnight0]

Also to add on Blast also said EV is not completely healed.

[@kingmaou4690]

You are making some fat assumption on blast, what if blast is as strong as garou when fighting saitama on jupiter? The answer is you don't know that. You are just making assumption on blast being weaker than garou later on even though there is no evidence or proof of where blast actually scaled compared to garou. Just because garou got stronger doesn't mean he got stronger than blast. Even when garou copied blast ability and tried to use it on him, blast was toying with garou's attack, he was casually dodging and blocking it. There is no evidence for you to believe garou was stronger than blast, you haven't even seen blast use a single move other than the gravity knuckle at that point. Both current Blast and empty void could be stronger than late garou, you have no proof to say otherwise other than baseless assumptions.

[@istvanvincze7411]

We have every reason to believe post IO garou is way way stronger than blast if and only if we believe saitama scales above blast. The graph is the key to everything. Saitama and garou were almost equals at the beginning, and both of them became a one-shot tier above themselves by the end of the fight. You need to take one look at the graph and you'll see that post IO garou is stronger than *base* saitama, and if you accept that base saitama is stronger than blast ( which most of the community does ), then it follows that post IO garou is stronger than blast. It really is that simple. The only way you can keep this ambiguous is if you assume blast scales above base saitama, because then you could argue that perhaps garou didn't scale enough to be above him.

[@Atriedits4040]

Boros vs blast and void from 15 years ago would be interesting

[@owensilva9224]

It's won't be as it will be complete headcannon scaling

[@Atriedits4040]

@owensilva9224 I mean like if he did it after the current arc ends when we have more information about blast and void in the past

[@owensilva9224]

@@Atriedits4040 doubt we will get more information on their past

[@SirMemesLong]

Both were lucky Boros (armored) wasn't there to HUMILIATE them both. but yeah jokes aside like how you put it in perfect cells video. if Blast and EV are relative at ALL then its just seals the deal that cosmic garou is superior... which is exactly what happened with these last 2 chapters. Cosmic Garou remains gods strongest avatar

[@sphera4147]

You made some good points but theres still points I disagree with. For one Cosmic Garou wouldnt be able to copy dimension slash because if im not Wrong Garou literally needs to see or witness the technique/ability in order to replicate it. Empty Void when he performes dimension slash literally teleports outside of the causality of the Universe, into a higher dimension in order to perform his dimension slash, Garou wouldnt be able to replicate that cause he cant witness it. And also Garou wouldnt be able to teleport there either as even Blast himself admits once empty void teleports into his dimension he cant track him or pursue him so Garou wouldnt be able to just teleport into Empty Voids dimension. And as for the dimension slash not being able to "fully" ignore distance. This point to me doesnt make much sense as its pretty much implied that dimension slash cant be avoided with regular speed alone as shown by the fact that Blast literally had to save flashy flash and sonic so they wouldnt die as well as the fact that Blast needs to teleport to even move out of the way. And we also know that the dimension slash is an attack that comes from the sky as blatantly shown when empty void is about to do it laughing is heard from the sky, meaning yes, it does ignore distance as the attack practially instantly travels through empty voids dimension to the earth instantly. And also if dimension slash didnt fully "ignore distance" then by that logic flashy flash and sonic would be able to dodge it as the radius of dimension slash isnt really that big and both flashy flash and sonic with their speed would easily cover that distance, so again I dont buy into that argument and simply doesnt make much sense. And also dimension slash cant have a cause and effect otherwise we wouldve saw dimension slash travelling from the sky towards the earth but we dont see that, which is a clear indication that it isnt bound by cause and effect. But I still commend you for the video regardless but some of these points imo didn't make much sense.

[@ImHereCookin]

God avatars ignoring stats based on their lvl doesnt mean that EV slashes cant do it, his DS works perfectly as described but its ONLY 1 LVL higher. While God should ignore that w/o limit to lvls, like 4/5/6D... etc

[@sphera4147]

@@ImHereCookin if you're talking about dimensionality then yeah I agree, empty voids dimension can only ignore things on the 3D and 4D lvl based on everything we've seen and what's stated. It's also implied that Empty Voids dimension slash is 5D in AP since it transcends the infinite 4D multiverse that's shown, as well as the fact that Empty Voids dimension can hold an infinite amount of 4D space-time continuums.

[@drumsy69]

Even empty void use her slash. Garou can just deflect it' even dimensional slash he can follow void around between dimensions or he can copied it and used dimensional god fist!

[@vincentos1239]

Flashy prcoced it bc of his contact with god before void stated that with out bower of darkness blast cant sense the dimention slash and not bc he stolen it from him but bc he adapted to it wich means by extention garou also would not be able to sense it bc void is yet again adapted

[@epicbattleon8259]

bro empty void has been on screen for 3 chapters and your already matching him up

[@SatorisYT]

@@epicbattleon8259 Because people are doing it. They're constantly comparing these two already.

[@callisto1796]

@@SatorisYTso everything ur saying is baseless and head cannon

[@SatorisYT]

@@callisto1796 Quite the opposite I would say. Name 1 single headcqnon I used in the video as a major point, please.

[@veerjain819]

Garou cant teleport using Black Holes , he does with portals which is different and not instantaneous, youre just coping because Garou is your favourite lol , Void will just keep on spamming Dimension Slash and delete him

[@Zarc-s9e]

Pls wake up garou win easy. Garou is hyperversal, instead void is multi\giga versal

[@TCG2016]

It’s a close matchup and empty void is not a fraud, he just went against a way stronger saitama also narratively empty void is stronger. But garou could probably copy voids powers which I don’t really see happening bc garou couldn’t really master or achieve his reversal of causality ability. And empty void based on what we’ve seen is already scales higher than that and showed more complex capabilities.

[@AoneManStudio-v5v]

*Cf Garou* has Power of *All Energies and forces of Universe* that's it. meanwhile Empty_Void who is higher dimensional being & Interact with Multiverse as bunch of bubbles & Ignore Energy,Distance & Size. That's why at very least *2nd form of Empty Void>>>>Cf Garou* cuz in 2nd form Empty-Void ignore Energy_Attacks & Absorb Powers of his opponents.

[@-schattenpflanze-3755]

Blast and Void 3 years ago only mid dragon if they struggled with Elder Centipede.

[@dejitaruato6970]

I agree with this take.

[@M.L1890]

Cosmic Void beats Cosmic Garou mid diff. Cosmic Garou couldn’t touch Blast, while Void gave Blast considerable injury. I still believe, Blast hasn’t really go all out yet. He fought God before and even God didn’t manage to kill him (just heavily injured him (ch 173)). It would be shameful because OPM fans has been hyping him for so long. Let alone Tatsumaki, even Mumen Rider has way more heroic feats & fight panels than Blast.

[@Nah_id_win_883]

Garou legit low diffs Garou not being able to touch blast is not a good argument since their fight only lasts like half a chapter and garou only gets his full arsenal after he copies blast which happens towards the end of it And besides garou was still highly reletive to him and he then gets far stronger on io, meaning he stomps void

[@PretentiousPicklePickingPunk]

EV's DS doesn't even spawn. We see it travel every time he uses it. So that wouldn't even be win con, considering Blast could react to it. My boy Garou sweeps.

[@Mike60606]

Garou got dominated by Blast. Void dominated Blast. Void would beat initial Cosmic Garou, but lose to Garou after the Saitama fight.

[@Mope333]

I doubt it lol, If Void really is 5D then he’s not losing at all

[@Mike60606]

@Mope333 I would agree, but I think Blast and Garou and Saitama are 5D as well. Blast can interact with hyperspace just like Void. And Saitama is Saitama so he can do anything better than anybody. And Garou basically was Saitama during their fight.

[@callisto1796]

@@Mike60606garou was surprised that Saitama was grabbing hyperspace they are not the same

[@MetalKnight0]

14:09 People literally ignore this like, how do you people even scale? Blast literally fought God and managed to get away with his life. Meanwhile future Garou literally got ONE SHOTTED by God. Why does nobody brings that up?

[@creeeeeeeeee4101]

Garou got one shot by god since he had took gods power and was basically a puppet god could kill with ease. Peak cosmic garou surpasses pre-garou saitama (with the exponential power growth stuff) and god never one shot saitama so obviously he only one shot garou because garou had taken his power and was under his control basically

[@MetalKnight0]

⁠@@creeeeeeeeee4101 God has never fought Saitama. But nowhere was it stated those with God's power can get one shotted by God? Confiscation was only stated if you are not capable of handling God's power.

[@MetalKnight0]

@@creeeeeeeeee4101 Also Garou getting one shotted by God debunks the fact that he can go outside causality. Otherwise the cause of him gaining God's power would not result into the effect of him getting killed by God.

[@pietrorazia2184]

​@@MetalKnight0if void were to betray God like garou did he too would be one tapped. It isnt a matter of strengh but of being a vessel Homeless emperor betrayed God and what happened was that he was instantly turned into ashes, like garou. Theyre vessels.

[@tommycapone8926]

@@MetalKnight0 it was never real confirmation Blast fought God it said that blast fended off God Furthermore Blast is losing to one of god puppets who God would scale massively above so you trying to scale blast off God is nasty work considering we already saw blast needed help to redirect serious punch squared meaning he’s no where near close to Saitama initial serious form let alone exponential growth Saitama and Garou. You don’t need to go outside of causality to dodge the dimensional slash because blast has been doing it by simply teleporting and Garou has that exact ability himself.

[@BeastXIS]

By the way, do you think Garou would have been stronger or weaker if he fully accepted God's gifted power by shaking his hand rather than just slapping it away? Since Blast said Garou's gift was incomplete and wondered what would have happened if he got the completed gift iirc But at the same time, it is implied he would lose his rebellious mindset since Blast noted Garou had some of his consciousness and concluded that Garou's gift must have been incomplete due to that Thoughts?

[@somaloll]

yall read way too far into blast teleporting the serious punch. If the punch connected it wouldve shattered the earth, that was clearly just a plot induced feat because blast was losing against garou and garou didn't even consider him nearly as big of a threat as saitama.

[@SatorisYT]

It's possible

[@somaloll]

@@SatorisYT wasn't the authors intention at all, if that were the case then the author wouldnt have shown blast putting so much effort into holding off garou and even losing. you could say maybe blast was holding back techniques but in h2h and with only his gravity knuckle garou was beating him

[@adwans1491]

Empty Void Vs Cosmic Fear Garou, Why who the better character is, is NOT close

[@Mope333]

By statements, Void scales higher

[@Xuanyana]

It's dmb to compare when writting, Void just came, and garou was here since the s2 start

[@Cosmicdefender1]

Void will most likely win due to him possessing the dimensional slash and thats the only way he can actually win against garou. Outside of that garou takes almost every other stat. Strength, speed, durability all go to garou while hax and abilities go to empty void. Dimensional slash is the only thing that can give void the W

[@darkfatefang1618]

After todays chapter Garou makes empty void a fodder

[@defaultyanny861]

Fr bruh, why do void and blast look hella weak in the recent chapters?

[@leontriestoart]

13:50 i am pretty sure blast just has gotten stronger over time, i mean saitama three years ago was a normal dude

[@SatorisYT]

@@leontriestoart Blast was already part of the unit that fought against God though. And he himself directly states someone of Flash' level would die instantly in this conflict. Even high tier S class is just fodder to the unit and not even worth concidering for joining the group, so narrativelly Blast should still be near God level even back then.

[@leontriestoart]

@SatorisYT ohh ur right Ok I hope it's not a plot hole and gets explained cuz yeah that makes no sense currently 😭

[@JeSsE10mCcOy11]

Void beat the fraud allegations but I don't think it's enough to beat Garou

[@BeastXIS]

Garou has both God's power of light, Blast's power of darkness (that defies God's power of light) AND Saitama's stats. And also his copying ability Unless Empty Void has an even broken ability than Garou's copying ability, he gets crushed imo Even though Empty Void has more divine power than Cosmic Garou naturally (He got both Cosmic Garou's divine power & the divine power that God gave him already)

[@callisto1796]

@@BeastXISare we reading the same story? Or are you deadass this stupid dark is now useless against void

[@_------------_]

He literally is and will be

[@_------------_]

​@@BeastXISDimension slash negs

[@callisto1796]

@@BeastXIS thats not how that works just because u favor Garou over void doesn't make him stronger literally everything we will say is baseless one has limits within the universe the other is outside of said universe narratively Void is stronger and that is a fact

[@Fhakhyahbimaha]

Since we talking about God with his Avatar, i was thinking about what if God was a good being and want to help humanity meanwhile blast and his team are evil and trying to destroy the world. What the story would be?

[@caindain2179]

That was fucking quick-

[@masscreationbroadcasts]

"I don't do Empty Void", eh? WHAT IS THIS THEN, WHAT IS THIS?

[@vincentos1239]

The apearing of ds is confusing af bc sometimes it just apears at the begining and in fractions of second is kilometers away and other times it comes still very fast but have travel time my best guess is void can controll how he uses it

[@Atriedits4040]

I like the intro it reminds me of my ps2

[@RyomenRishabxgarou]

Even tho garou is my most fav character in anime ever . I accept

[@Nishat00573]

Empty void is perfect avatar but not the strongest avatar Garou can copy any void's ability and improve it so fast, and garou mastered combat while empty void just matching blast

[@shafeckbrown496]

What does it mean to ignore distance, energy and size?

[@bigpj7359]

Garou should still win the fight, if Garou's hax made him able to copy the strongest move set of the strongest himself, (Saitama) Then Copying Empty void's abilities would not that much of a problem.

[@mgtowmonkapprenticegang8426]

Garou loses. He couldn't even land a attack on blast. Void slashed up blast pretty badly. Void is a genius and martial artist too and was able to figure out blast fighting style way faster than Garou. Garou won't be able to copy his dimensional slash. It's a attack outside of reality he won't be able to even see the technique to copy it. Garou isn't immortal or unbeatable. Orochi beat Garou before. He has a limit to how much damage he can tank before losing. Void dimensional slash will probably one shot and destroy Garou easily. I even doubt Garou is a better martial artist or fighter than void. Void takes the W.

[@Nah_id_win_883]

Pre io fight garou wasnt able to land blows on blast, not io fight garou whos hundreds of times stronger And even that argument is shaky at best, since their fight lasted only like half a chapter And yes garou is FAR better martial artist than void, idk how can you even try to argue otherwise, bang is stated to surpass the very meaning of mastery and he needs bomb to do something garou can do solo without issues Tbh even pre io fight garou is enough, the stat gap is minimal , and garou is far more skilled, even void's dimension slash can be avoided and needs to use hand sings which garou can easily just stop

[@thenatron6136]

Get your ticket here before Saitama punches Void and Blast with him 2o tiers down (lower than Boros)

[@joncolunga673]

I thought Blast did blitz Garou and put him in a different dimension?? Then he came back cause he copied his portal abilities?

[@Lobexx]

He literally got WEAKER absorbing cosmic fear garous power. What are yall on

[@SatorisYT]

@@Lobexx ???

[@devolzre]

Bro litterally evolve like 3 times already, and his feat so far that above garou is he can manipulate space 😂

[@vincentos1239]

He didnt mean it like dodgeing it with out a tp he meant it like with out his power of darkness wich is suported by blast steating before that he wont be able to track him even while still having his hand

[@SatorisYT]

@@vincentos1239 I don't think so. It's pretty directly stated that Blast can't dodge because he needs both fists to teleport, which he doesn't have anymore.

[@vincentos1239]

@SatorisYT but why tho than distance of slash diagonaly is not that fast especialy for someone who blitzed saitama and garou why would he need to teleport in order to avoid it rather than just fly away even if it is kilometers wide wich propably for sure can bee looks like void can ajust the size of to to target unless traveling is just visual apeerance and slash has been already placed like in anime in general when someone slices somthing and exploasion apears later on

[@Jesko.]

5:18 let me guess? Economy Nectarine? Had told me Blast was not going full speed here. 😂

[@SatorisYT]

@@Jesko. That name is not familiar to me, so I probably haven't encountered them

[@SWY1356]

That guy most likely has no presences outside reddit

[@lipfried]

"At least multiplied by itself (like squared)" is not what exponential means. This is a power, a polynomial. Let me give you an example: -Polynomial: x^2 -Exponential: (something)^x For something to be exponential the variable must be in the exponent. And exponential growth is much larger than polynomial growth btw.

[@SatorisYT]

@@lipfried Yeah, I know. I was just giving the lowest possible value for the variable as an example, that being 2.

[@BTHN7533]

I didn't finished the video but I know that Garou negs

[@_------------_]

No he doesn't bozo

[@Divinegarou4609]

​@@_------------_Yeah He doesm

[@Acer19w]

​@@_------------_with saitama mode yes he nags

[@captainb.mccrea5480]

@@_------------_well he does, so rip you bozo

[@BTHN7533]

​@@_------------_ C O P E

[@user-widktycgah]

I wonder if Awakened god garou mode and empty void fought, who'd win, and answer is obvious. Garou was already copying saitama and was keeping up albeit for a few moments before saitama stared cooking, EV was getting cooked moment saitama caught those blades... If CFG copied saitama while fighting EV, he'd win... I guess its about garou's opponent was too strong...

[@sebastianmenendez7657]

To be fair gaurou took the most serious punches

[@Mope333]

And Void can tank those too lol

[@AndrewGilmet-ci2bj]

@@Mope333 you dont know that, imao garou (saitama mode mid diffs)

[@sebastianmenendez7657]

@ won’t know until he does I suppose

[@Mope333]

@@AndrewGilmet-ci2bj But I do, he’s tanking Blast. Also Saitama mode is just his strength and not durability.

[@AndrewGilmet-ci2bj]

@@Mope333 its his strength,speed and durability. bro your acting like blast is close to saitama.

[@bird7781]

GAROU GOAT ONE SHOT

[@diegozo9448]

Cope harder

[@tzyyon]

Void garou blast , whoever u wanna choose , neither is stronger than any form of Saitama after losing his hair