the noir is just such a perplexing idea, the forced 400 dollar cable buy.
@zblus4 ай бұрын
Ya like wtf
@blorg82064 ай бұрын
It's total snake oil. Elysian seem to produce good stuff but their relationship with Effect puts me off them. It's sort of just confirming that most of the price is nonsense like this.
@haomingli61754 ай бұрын
@@blorg8206 actually lots of audiophiles and even manufacturers in asia believe that cables matter for sound quality.
@radiofreealbemuth4 ай бұрын
I feel like paying 400 for cables is like paying 400 for shoe laces
@ArtinaReise4 ай бұрын
Other than the cable upgrade, Noir has a 4 way crossover setup running on different drivers compared to the vanilla Pilgrim.
@NotTheOnlyMattAround4 ай бұрын
Thought the Noir sounded interesting for the warmer tuning but double the price for what he described as essentially a better cable and carrying case... Sheesh.
@SpiritualPsychotherapyServices4 ай бұрын
Exactly! 😢
@Thiccolo4 ай бұрын
just eq the pilgrim and boom got a noir for free
@walkerstandard23734 ай бұрын
@@Thiccolo glad you're happy
@NotTheOnlyMattAround4 ай бұрын
@@Thiccolo You're definitely not wrong but that's not the point. People are complaining about Dusk's DSP cable but at least it does something. We're talking about a different analog cable and case doubling the price. Oh, and the color black, I guess. Maybe that's an expensive black finish that darkens the sound.
@catdampawshaker27354 ай бұрын
Tbf the internals are also rearranged but at that point.... why????
@iKaGe014 ай бұрын
Wow so different sound signature but you're forced to pay 400 more because it has a different cable?
@ArtinaReise4 ай бұрын
Implementation on the Pilgrim Noir is different, running a 4 drivers / 4 way crossover setup (vanilla Pilgrim is 4 drivers 3 way), I can also confirm that the Noir has a different type of mid and high BA drivers inside.
@iKaGe014 ай бұрын
@@ArtinaReise Then maybe offer the Noir with the cable the original comes with? It made it sound like the cable and carry case made the bulk of the extra cost
@ArtinaReise4 ай бұрын
@@iKaGe01or you can get the Noir and sell the EA cable. 🤭
@or1on893 ай бұрын
@@iKaGe01pretty much it…
@shirokun79654 ай бұрын
It's crazy. after under $100 and $250 war, this time is pseduo-endgame iem war. It's crazy how fast it is
@Weareonenation3034 ай бұрын
Nothing will convince me to spend more than 50 bucks on an IEM cable.
@mark_midmark4 ай бұрын
Especially when Xinhs and Tripowin exist
@casanova92274 ай бұрын
yes your right maximum 50 70 bucks faak all that bu ll s hit high end cabels aint do s hit to sound
@dleblanc3434 ай бұрын
What about better sound quality?
@mark_midmark4 ай бұрын
@@dleblanc343 cables don't affect sound quality unless they are defective
@saucyg63714 ай бұрын
Id only do it for kilobuck iems, but at that price they should already have an amazing fuckin cable. Never paid more than $60 for a cable and i think it was the Kinera Leyding
@misterfinerthings4 ай бұрын
Placed an order the other day. Excited for the potential. Fingers crossed.
@kenneyt94 ай бұрын
aaannddd?
@misterfinerthings4 ай бұрын
@kenneyt9 Glad to have it in my collection. You can definitely tell it comes from a unique house sound. Fun U shape. Quality bass. Clean. Airy. I don't really have anything else like it. I do agree with what others have said, however. You gotta change the tips, both for fit and to tame down any peaks you may hear. After that, great set.
@shurikenflip98182 ай бұрын
@@misterfinerthingswhat tips do u recommend?
@misterfinerthings2 ай бұрын
spinfit w1s are my preference for the pilgrim.
@thomasdanny77174 ай бұрын
Skip. I already have a Studio4 for a relaxed sound and a U4S for an energetic sound. Damn, this rabbit hole is really dangerous for finances. Every time there is a new product that is better (they say) than the previous product, it makes me feel like I am facing Pandora's Box. Buy or die curious.
@umaralfaruq14824 ай бұрын
Hahahaha, You're right
@jeo79584 күн бұрын
Hi are you using stock or third party eartips for studio4? Am looking for options
@thomasdanny77174 күн бұрын
@@jeo7958 stock tips
@BassDad84 ай бұрын
This is pretty cool, but my immediate iem budget is spoken for 1. DaVinci 2. Relentless 3. Freya 2.0 That said, it is very cool that Elysian came out with an approachably priced iem. I have been lusting from afar for the Annihilator (whichever version, IDC). Great review and nice interview. I know cables can matter, but I haven't fully bought in on spending more than $50 on one yet...☮
@_-Z-4 ай бұрын
The first 2 are high on my list as well. Still thinking on the Freya 2.0. The QoA Aviation is another possibility. 🤔 I seem to be a sucker for Kinera and its sub brands. Tangzu and Dunu are tied as my other company favorites, though because they always seem to be on point with their presentation and accessory package (in addition to consistent quality products in my experience).
@BassDad84 ай бұрын
@@_-Z- not to steal any of Timmy’s thunder, but starting this coming week, I will have 4 sets from house Kinera that I will review. They’re on loan, but the Freya 2 and Aviation are in there. Going to be a fun couple of weeks!
@H-4-D34234 ай бұрын
My small apartment, has a small lounging area and tiny open kitchen area all in one. The whole are is like 17-18 feet wall to wall from one end to the other. I literally am sat 5.5 feet from the fridge freezer turning on/off. I doubt the part-open design is something that would work. I prefer traditional IEM isolation. I also think they should do a set under the GAEA, using tradition resin painted shell with coloured cable. So a set like DIVA/GAEA, but for $899...
@marksr124 ай бұрын
Great review Timmy! How bout Pilgrim vs Davinci!
@H-4-D34234 ай бұрын
Has to happen Timmy...
@haomingli61754 ай бұрын
he won't compare anything with his own collab.
@H-4-D34234 ай бұрын
@@haomingli6175 Hmmm, yeah I guess that's only fair. All the others will review in the similar price bracket tho Sir huh, thanks
@goodgos18444 ай бұрын
@@haomingli6175Porque no le combiene claro esta
@zomz21654 ай бұрын
Can u compare the pilgrim with the thieaudio oracle pls!! Which one is better? I love vocal, my library is pop ans ballad
@KeMingYu-qd6sr4 ай бұрын
Hi Timmy, interested in this but just wanted to understand how this compares with Monarch Mk2?
@DominikPhilipp14 ай бұрын
You forgot to compare with sa6 mk2 and Aful performer 8
@kazumasatou61244 ай бұрын
Heard it from a friend, can confirm its really good.
@THE_FALL3N4 ай бұрын
What you would you pick between the dunu sa6mk2 and the pilgrim?
@cxmxc4 ай бұрын
Timmy this or the ie600 in terms of detail and resolution?
@paolocermelli81083 ай бұрын
Hello, I've just received the Pilgrims and I love them! Especially for their clarity of sound. Do you think the Dita Project M could be similar?! There are other superclear sound iem you can suggest?! Thanks!
@freihy4 ай бұрын
I tried both of these, the Noir is a hard pass. Seriously considering the Pilgrim original now as a great opposite to my Oracle MK1. At first I was shocked by how.. different it sounded to my daily driver Oracle. It was sharp, decisive, and technically ridiculous. I seriously thought it costed 750 dollars and was dumbfounded when I reasoned it was half what I expected.
@theodorezurla4964 ай бұрын
Annihilator 2021 vs Annihilator 2023!!! Cmon Timmy break it down!! 😊 but yeah love the pilgrim for the price Elysian tuning is so special 👌✨
@tanjacky57804 ай бұрын
Pilgrim: Great value Pilgrim Noir: for those Stupid Rich 😂
@kowei69514 ай бұрын
how does it compare to the xenns top?
@RaduOprina4 ай бұрын
Haven't heard the Pilgrim (obviously) but the fact that we are still talking about the Top years after it launched and Pilgrim is an afterthought after a week should tell you everything you need to know.
@kenjikodai4 ай бұрын
@@RaduOprina With that mindset every other iem is trash before B2D and Variations then
@blackcum22753 ай бұрын
@@RaduOprinaah yes, the BL03 is the best IEM ever made then
@blackcum22752 ай бұрын
@@RaduOprinait's been a month, Pilgrim is still pretty relevant in the community from what I see.
@GawainDragon4 ай бұрын
Now i just need to know if it's worth over the Davinci
@Johnmoe_4 ай бұрын
not 2-pin tho 😢
@jamesberryman98934 ай бұрын
It looks like a nice set, but I'm holding for the DaVinci!
@lcwpg4 ай бұрын
waiting for davinci too before i decide too many good sets life is too difficult lol
@jamesberryman98934 ай бұрын
@@lcwpg 💯
@dalejailАй бұрын
hi @gizaudio is there an iem you can reccomend with the neutral/naturalness of the studio4 and with the transient/dynamics and imaging of the pilgrim? for studio mix/mastering use mostly but also enjoyment
@rajithfernando62004 ай бұрын
Was waiting for Timmy to review this cuz he's the biggest fan of Elysian...and wanted to see if this goes as hard as Diva and Annihilator for the price
@mistaBorg4 ай бұрын
after seeing the moondrop phone for the same price it kinda puts things into perspective and I can't say it makes sense to call this iem affordable, also mmcx is an odd choice...
@blackcum22754 ай бұрын
It's not even MMCX it's Pentaconn Ear, Elysian uses that connector on every single IEM they make.
@HKS-le3hi4 ай бұрын
Premium mmcx. the pentaconn mmcx 😄
@vianhoho194 ай бұрын
that's because you're comparing apples to oranges. It's affordable within the Elysian spectrum. When you consider the Gaea and Diva were around the $1500 mark and the Annihilator at $3000+, the Pilgrim at $400 seems affordable in comparison.
@neogenesus4 ай бұрын
Who the F comparing a phone to an IEM?
@mistaBorg4 ай бұрын
@@neogenesus I am not comparing the two, i just mentioned it brought me a different perspective on how expensive these iems are...
@bezchlebalukas17794 ай бұрын
Thansk for the video. Can someone compare Mega5est with Elysian Pilgrim with details? Thanks for answer. (or with dusk 2)
@Helmond20177 күн бұрын
And now im more interested in the Apostle 😅.
@nhan_nguyen034 ай бұрын
I know it is a bit old, but how is its technicality compared to moondrop variation?
@kenjikodai3 ай бұрын
The Variations sound a bit more smooth and not as sharp and incisive compared to Pilgrim, they're both great but I'd go for the sparky scalpel cleanliness than the heady treble of Variations
@0Roydashme2 ай бұрын
Who's the detail king? Variations or Pilgrim? 🤔
@pedroaranha23554 ай бұрын
How does the pilgrim compare to studio4 and RSV for vocals? Which one is your favorite of the 3?
@feneio4 ай бұрын
Can you do a review on the FiiO/JadeAudio JH5
@KanyeWestFan694 ай бұрын
Eros S for 400? This is the most stupid thing I have ever heard - you can buy the cable separately for around 250! Seems like Effect Audio has more issues apart from its QC problems
@testertest91814 ай бұрын
You can get Noir OR get the standard and davinci 😂
@Mixail7474 ай бұрын
I'm more interested in NOIR tuning, but not at that much of a markup!
@jyip14424 ай бұрын
Pilgrim vs SA6U vs Dabinki? 😈
@samuelcalvinho5234 ай бұрын
Mmcx? I'm out
@Gizaudio4 ай бұрын
It's pentaconn, not mmcx
@LyuboA4 ай бұрын
so the stupid cable is the same price as the IEMs and you can't buy them without the cable lol 😂 that's just insane calling it a SCAM is putting it mildly
@LeBeautiful4 ай бұрын
If I feel like Scott pilgrim and hear end game details…then let’s get to work 🔥🔥🔥
@RaphaelStarr4 ай бұрын
Versus the world of iems.
@supertree084 ай бұрын
This man is everywhere lol
@AndrewYouTubehandle4 ай бұрын
Got the Pilgrim. Good for classical. Not good for enjoyable depth and not good for cold weather where the metal is cold.
@rengone88314 ай бұрын
at this point, i'll believe that timmy is sponsored by elysian
@wahyuriders4 ай бұрын
Me too
@vianhoho194 ай бұрын
what made you think that way? Like, what "gave that impression" for you?
@Gizaudio4 ай бұрын
I bought Annihilator and Diva with my own money. Full retail.
@geraldsing54604 ай бұрын
@@Gizaudio but not this one
@rengone88314 ай бұрын
@@vianhoho19 always hyping up elysian products it seems
@justanotheraltaccount56444 ай бұрын
Happy with my hype 4😊
@poldomalese3 ай бұрын
Seems a little bulky to me. Anyone knows how much does it weight?
@bourjuva4 ай бұрын
IOAUDIO VOLARE what u think about it and
@Miserereion2 ай бұрын
It’s a really good IEM, once you get rid of that rubbish Spinfit eartips.
@Logan0324_27 күн бұрын
What eartips would you recommend then?
@realgrilledsushi4 ай бұрын
Well for an end game iem at 400 bucks, that’s affordable though I wish it is lower like 200.
@TonkyTronicus4 ай бұрын
I'm more of a Noir style guy, unfortunately for my wallet.
@Angel-AbC94 ай бұрын
Hi, so sennheiser i600 or elysian pilgrim ? pick one if had to
@MunyaMunya-n5x2 ай бұрын
which is better if this comparing to Studio 4
@jay12345ist4 ай бұрын
Imma keep it a stack, the footage from Canjam should’ve been a different video or cut out. I got more value out of just your impressions.
@enzosoccerusa4 ай бұрын
Should I buy B3 or B3 dusk or TANCHJIM ORIGIN
@yorxxx4 ай бұрын
How do you compare this Pilgrim Elysian with the Tanchjim Origin?
@MrBlackJava4 ай бұрын
Damn why almost doubble the price on the Noir
@rafdes4 ай бұрын
From what I've been reading and hearing, it sounds like people are describing something similar to the Mest Mkii, but you tell me if there any similarities at all (probably not lol).
@paulosilva82004 ай бұрын
Forgetting the tuning . The drivers from the gaia are more expensive for sure and better. Just because we listen at normal volumes does not mean the iem is better
@ElNINETEENTH4 ай бұрын
Bro what are you saying exactly? GAEA much better ?
@paulosilva82004 ай бұрын
@@ElNINETEENTH in driver quality. Yes. But you pay the price for it
@ElNINETEENTH4 ай бұрын
@@paulosilva8200 GAEA definitely better
@jonathansmith47374 ай бұрын
"for $400 more you get a custom cable and dont forget the fancy carrying case which you need, trust me."
@iisakei23694 ай бұрын
I remember what happened 3 years ago. Their tenacity is the root of their sound.
@maskudo3 ай бұрын
Finally an Elysian that I can (almost) afford.
@shaunbrady154 ай бұрын
Got mine on the way!
@cameleon3034 ай бұрын
Gah! Now I want to buy it just because of the great explanation behind the name
@xadrian234 ай бұрын
That 400 for cable and case will not work.
@krayozmines4 ай бұрын
Annihilator 2023 isnt as amazingly tuned as the old one. It has waaayy more bass. Still sounds amazing just not as well rounded for most genres anymore. Are you referring the og one in this video?
@Gizaudio4 ай бұрын
Referring to OG one
@SharinganNin4 ай бұрын
Do the SWEEAR SR-11s
@jeffreylowy31804 ай бұрын
400 for a nicer cable and case is a little crazy
@iScorpio19714 ай бұрын
I'm just waiting for the Davinci review 😂
@Erdein3 ай бұрын
what eartips u used timmy?
@ItsJustChase4 ай бұрын
OFC the noir is more expensive. 😑
@studynowPH4 ай бұрын
Hi Timmy, what is your better all rounder, Dusk or the Pilgrim?
@Gizaudio4 ай бұрын
Dusk is more of an all-rounder. Especially the DSP default
@wellykuo45902 ай бұрын
I love Timmy ❤
@goodgos18444 ай бұрын
Studio4 is very bad
@ammarramadhan35754 ай бұрын
this or mega5est?
@cadmiumpureland4 ай бұрын
Wow, this review really annihilate everything. Including Timmy’s Davinci!
@vinayprasad47784 ай бұрын
What is the best IEM for gaming? Should I go for Truthear Crinacle blue, crinacle red, truthear hexa, or simgot ew200? Are they better than moondrop aria 2?
@iman3gb4 ай бұрын
how does it compare to Moondrop Variations?
@sylfraeaveniore26844 ай бұрын
Also waiting for the answer
@Goodguycyraxx4 ай бұрын
Idk about you but $400 is still not an Average price lol he said more affordable I thought maybe 200 max lol
@howardroark36704 ай бұрын
As IEM's improve through time the price also becomes cheaper for higher and higher quality. In 5 or 6 years you'll be able to get something like the Pilgrim for $200 (add adjustments for inflation). So hang in there. I'm time you'll get your wish.
@howardroark36704 ай бұрын
In time you'll get your wish.
@graycardigan87494 ай бұрын
It looks like you're not familiar with IEM pricing. 400 is really closer to average.
@vianhoho194 ай бұрын
Affordable relative to Elysian's previous models which are all $1000 or more
@goodgos18444 ай бұрын
Why you limatate the comparation whit the 500dolar iems? Probably is even better tha the dunu davinchi rigth?
@AverieS8204 ай бұрын
Heard it... it's like a upgraded Hexa, but not really impressive for it's price IMO. For me it's technical performance was pretty average, haven't heard the dusk but I would put it around the blessing 3 level, which is great but not outstanding. Even compared to the cheaper Cadenza 4, it seemed to have more rolled-off treble. Overall quite disappointing for an Elysian IEM.
@NelsonMichael4 ай бұрын
What would be the better option for technical performance, at this price point?
@blackcum22752 ай бұрын
How does it have "rolled off treble" this thing is bright af lol. Technicalities are closing with the Monarch MK3 to my ears with the Monarch sounding a bit better in timbre (probably due to having more mid bass and lower mids and a little more upper mids) but it's splitting hairs at that point. I certainly don't hear any missing notes on the Pilgrim that is on the Monarch.
@zyvixm4 ай бұрын
Waiting for the lovely DHL tracking number!
@Gustav0Silva4 ай бұрын
👁👁
@jjjj-ms1ln4 ай бұрын
👁️ 👁️
@he.sensei87084 ай бұрын
This IEM singlehandedly just killed the endgame IEM market LMAO. Slap on an eq and you can ride off into the sunset never to return again.
@trollfromcomments3 ай бұрын
It's not even close with UM mest 2. If Anni is smidge better, than it's sad. $400-600 tribrids like DTE500/ Moonlight 2023/Xenns Up/Volare/mega5 give more details. Pilgrim is just ok for it's price.
@RadoDani4 ай бұрын
I’d prefer warmer tonality at $399 price point and with shiny shell. 😢
@kenjikodai4 ай бұрын
I just saw a Gaea up for 600, I'd buy it if the guy sold it for cash and was near me lol
@StarBuccaneers1684 ай бұрын
Thanks. Any idea why Elysian didn't use 2 pin connector?
@vianhoho194 ай бұрын
IIRC It's Lee's decision because Pentaconn for him is a much more robust and durable connector.
@heyking85834 ай бұрын
Pls tell me Dusk is still better
@vianhoho194 ай бұрын
no. Unfortunately LOL
@zblus4 ай бұрын
Ew Dusk
@icarusix87504 ай бұрын
i imagine it's not a huge difference one way or the other sonically, if you find that dusk is more comfortable for you vs pilgrim, that's going to be a bigger deciding factor imo