End of Day 2 Track Reconstruction Progress on the Derailment Track Section

Track will get tied in tonight to the existing rails on the east end of this section.
Work is progressing nicely for the limited amount of man power and machines
that were available. In less than 24 hours from when this video was taken, they
ran their first train over this section on a 10 MPH slow order.
Apologize if I sounded really tired in this video, I was! It was made after working 10 hours
non stop that day. 2 more videos are coming on the track repairs, both of those
will have some of the actual work being done in them. Please also understand that
with the train not being able to run, the job was to get track back in service as
quickly as possible and with that said I had to do my part in the work and not
spend much time making videos. I was doing this video as I was making an
inspection of the work that had gotten done and assessing what else needed
to get accomplished.
I am posting pictures of the derailment on the Community Tab on my
channel about the derailment and track rebuild so keep checking back there to see
new ones coming out.
/ @ccrx6700
Plus there are many more videos at the derailment here on the Cumberland Mine RR
located near Kirby Pa. Here's the link to see all the videos:
• Curve 18 Derailment

[@shirleyharrington-moore9657]

I can't say it often enough: keeping the railroad running requires an amazing crew and awesome equipment. Thank you for sharing.

[@ccrx6700]

Your welcome Shirley. Thank you so much for all your very nice comments and wonderful support of the channel.

[@mustralineabsorbine5082]

Another great video. The speed with which the construction crews worked is very impressive. Still amazing how much damage a slow moving, enormous mass can do in a short period of time. Thanks for so much of the "nuts and bolts" of railroading. :)

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you so much for watching and for your always nice comments sir!

[@johnblair8146]

I've studied railroading all of my life (63 y/o) and you have managed to add a couple terms to my railroad vocabulary just in this video!!!!! THANK YOU!!!!!

[@ccrx6700]

John, golly gee.... thank you, believe me I learn new things all the time myself, it is pretty cool stuff! I really appreciate your comment sir and for watching

[@larmo5633]

I was on a track job a few years back using a Jordan spreader, we were cleaning out a ditch I was the engineer, we were pushing in notch 4/5 are first pass went well, the second not so much, the wing happened to find the foundation of a old signal mast, needless to say it pushed that entire plow sideways rolling the rail and derailing the entire plow and first set of trucks on the locomotive, what made it worse was we were on welded rail, it rolled that rail about 6 car lengths up around a curve. It was the most gut wrenching stomach turning experience to see the amount of damage that was done only within seconds..I can only imagine how you must have felt to see all the damage on that rail. Looking much better now though compared to the video after the derailment..keep up the great work, really enjoy seeing some of the other experiences other railroads are going threw and how they handle it..👍👍

[@ccrx6700]

Strange things sometimes happen on the RR as you well know, that must have been a real fracas! thanks for the comment sir and for watching

[@benniepierce6283]

These men are doing a super job of repairing the track in a short time for the damage done. I mean ALL of you involved.

[@ccrx6700]

Thanks Bennie, yep these guys are fantastic for the mess they had and what they had to work with. Appreciate your viewing the show today sir

[@benniepierce6283]

@@ccrx6700 For sure I speak for all of us that we are happy you are providing a complete account of this accident thru your videos.

[@ccrx6700]

@@benniepierce6283 👍

[@coniow]

I have learned a very great deal from your videos about track maintenance. I was already aware of issues about 'High Speed' rail requiring welded joints in the track, which can cause problems in high temperatures with the rail expanding (IE lengthening), and so distorting the line. I know in the UK the cost of building a stretch of High Speed line is eye-watering. From your videos I see how much work is required to keep the line safe for 25 mph. What it would take for a passenger train traveling at TWO HUNDRED miles an hour I can not imagine! Then I hear calls for rolling out HS rail over the whole USofA! A great idea, but I think these folks have no IDEA about what it would take!

[@ccrx6700]

Yes sir, it takes major bucks to build the HS rail, our country is woefully lacking in that unlike so many other countries, but there's lot of talk of doing it here! Thanks for the nice comment and for watching

[@channelsixtysix066]

You guys earn your money, Dave. No doubt about that. 👍

[@ccrx6700]

Think I need a raise? ...LOL Appreciate your watching and stay tuned for more to come ss

[@tomharrington1393]

Amazing job the contractors are doing with such a mess. Thanks for the update Dave. 🛠🛠🚂🚂

[@ccrx6700]

Your welcome Tom, glad you enjoyed and appreciate your watching the show today sir

[@johnniewelbornjr.8940]

Quite the repair but I like seeing how it all goes together. This would make for an interesting model scene but I'm glad I haven't the time or space these days for the hobby, for I'm too OCD... The thought of placing all these details would be an interesting challenge... lol 😆

[@lydiaanderson4247]

@johnnie Hello how are you doing

[@ccrx6700]

Good luck with the model! That would be interesting, I don't have the patience to do that detail either. Thanks for watching Johnnie

[@Boilermaker-Rick]

No matter how big a mess it is Dave we know you can get it all straighten out to be perfect once again.

[@ccrx6700]

Thanks for the vote of confidence Rick, I try. Had a lot of really good help on this one!

[@eugeneellison6479]

Sounded like a massive chore to get that section back to being able to be used wow!!

[@ccrx6700]

Yes it was Eugene, but had a lot of good help, guys that knew there was a job to be done and worked around the clock to get track back in service. Appreciate your checking out the video my good sir.

[@petert24turner71]

I am in Australia but have spent many visits to the US for work, up to 6 months at a time, in Aus we call ties Sleepers. These days most are now made of concrete as they last longer & less deterioration with age. Just as easy to replace as wooden types. Enjoy your vids. thanks.

[@ccrx6700]

Glad you enjoyed sir and we do thank you for watching. My tamper is an old one and since concrete ties are 2 inches thicker than wood, the tamper is not set up to allow the workheads to drop far enough below the bottom of a concrete tie in order to tamp ballast under the tie

[@thomaspinnick5796]

Good video, keep posting. I check 2 - 3 times a day in case the notification bell doesn't work.

[@ccrx6700]

LOL Thomas! seems like I post a new one bout every 4 or 5 days. I try to reply back to as many comments as I can and it takes bout that long to get most of them done on 1 video. I've seen other high view utubers who get lots of comments and post lots of videos and never reply back to anyone. So if i never answered anyone I could post every day, but if folks are kind enough to write me in, then I feel it's least I can do to thank them for it

[@raymondsprengelmeyer1278]

Another great video! Thank you for sharing!

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you Raymond, glad you enjoyed the show today

[@alandaters8547]

It is great to see you getting "your" track back! Thank you for inviting us all into your world.

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you Alan for the very kind comment 🌝

[@rickcooper6817]

That's a lot of hard work Mr. Dave, everyone did an awesome job. Glad you guys got it all back going. Thanks for the video Dave. Stay Safe!

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you Rick, glad you enjoyed the show today sir

[@russelltrupia4479]

When you first showed the damage it did not seem that bad, my gosh that was really bad. Thanks for a great video Dave.

[@ccrx6700]

Your welcome Russell 👌

[@saintsi6997]

Good one.

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you, glad you enjoyed the home movie

[@paulbergen9114]

Track damage can go beyond just where the derailment occurred. Moving equipment for the contractor esp if soggy can chew it up. MILW & CNW yard and branch trackage always had grooves from minor derailments. The new concrete ties are basically throw away material when they crack. Thanks for the updates

[@ccrx6700]

Thanks Paul, glad you enjoyed watching sir

[@brentcovert1531]

Looks good for 60 mile an hour! Go Go Go!

[@johnhauser4589]

Dude, with your knowledge base, you could manage fixes like this nationwide without breaking a sweat and probably raking in bug bucks. Surprised nobody's made you an offer you can't refuse. Plenty of bad track nationwide with incompetent management. You could be hero status in short time.

[@ccrx6700]

LOL John, they need me too much here.... Thanks for the nice comment and for viewing the show today, more to come your way soon

[@capttom7772]

Dave! I know the feeling.....on Coast Guard Inspections I even managed to get over being startled when one of the crew would wake me up where I had fallen asleep because of long days and nights working for hours non stop!.....You know🤔....I MISS THOSE DAYS! Here's to wishing you a GREAT REST for all the work you have done....and even with VIDEO to boot !👍👏👍😎

[@ccrx6700]

I'm sure you do, I can tell you loved your job and that is great, too few nowadays do. Thanks my friend for watching again sir

[@gravelydon7072]

I worked in a job that for the first 15 years required 10, 12, or 18 hour days. When you pull an 18 it takes a week to get back to semi-normal as you went either from day shift to night or night shift to day. And then back on 12s. Do that for 90 straight days and by the end, you can't even remember if you stopped at a stop sign that you had just left. And if one of the crew got sick or had to take time off the site, the others would have to split a shift. Worst days were Aug 21-24 1992. Worked an 18 from 1800 8/21 to 1200 8/22. Then had 18 off till 0600 8/23. At 1600 got to go home for ~two hours and back again at 1800. Then didn't get off work until 1600 on 8/24. Was not a good weekend for anybody in our part of South Florida. We on occasion had to spend 24 hours onsite listening to Detroit Diesel 12V71s or Cummins 8.3s at 1800 RPM. Something that when you are tired, will put you to sleep right next to the running engines. I don't miss those days as they will wreck your health if you do too many of them for too long. Hope Dave got a good rest.

[@davidhanson6515]

Thanks for responding. Looks like a lot long hours amazing how quickly get everything going again

[@TriGogglin]

Awesome job, I see the wavyness you were referring to, but as fast as they got the rail in, it looked pretty dog gone good. I bet you had whipped into shape with a quickness, thanks for the update Dave, keep um coming.

[@ccrx6700]

Cam kind gives rail a deceiving look, there was some pretty good line sways going on up above. 1 of your subscribers wrote in to tell me bout your tamper video!

[@TriGogglin]

@@ccrx6700 cool someone alerted you, was it in a comment, or email you remember who it was.

[@Billblom]

Clearly having the ability to get a few tons of ties, and having a bunch of rail available helps greatly. Seeing how rapidly what looks like 1/4 to 1/2 mile of track getting re-laid after the destruction was amazing. (My only semi-equivalent was the rework of the 5 miles of EBT rail getting totally renewed during the spring time and last fall with a small crew was also amazing...) Having seen your analysis of the failure, and the car that caused it fits nicely with the mess that resulted. TONS of work, but then that is what happens at the railroad...

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you for the very nice comment Billblom. We really appreciate your writing in and for watching the videos my friend. It sure was a mess but everyone did a fantastic job getting the track back in service here.

[@clydemarkham7915]

Great video. Thank you for posting these informative video's of railroading.

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you Clyde, great to hear you enjoyed the show today sir

[@steelem422]

Nice a new lesson about the railroad!

[@ccrx6700]

Glad you enjoyed today's show! Appreciate the viewing sir

[@briankemp5206]

Great progress in only 2 days.

[@ccrx6700]

Yep Brian I sure thought so, appreciate your viewing sir

[@MikeBrown-ii3pt]

I know many people that would LOVE to have an 18"-24" section of that old rail. It makes a GREAT anvil!

[@ccrx6700]

Yep Mike, but guess they gonna use all that old rail up on the slate dump to build a retaining wall so there goes my Ebay anvil selling business....LOL Thanks for watching sir

[@dylanhayden8825]

An old gravel mountain road close to my house used pieces of rail as pilings to retain it. They paved the road about 15 years ago and they just bulldozed all the rail down the mountain side. You can still find decent 6 or 8 foot chunks of it, the biggest challenge is finding 3 or 4 good friends to help you haul it back up to the road.

[@StormySkyRailProductions]

Nice video of explaining the progress of track repair after a derailment.

[@ccrx6700]

Thanks Steve, glad you enjoyed the show today sir

[@StormySkyRailProductions]

@@ccrx6700 You are welcome, This also brings back memories of these situations.

[@michaelball760]

Avoided a derailment thursday night, stock rail had an ordinary break clear through and opened up about an inch. 80 car coal train went over it, dont know how it stayed on.

[@ccrx6700]

Wow, you lucked out on that one! Must be your living right 😉

[@gravelydon7072]

If you watch an Army training video they show just how big a gap they could run over before having derailments. And they were trying to derail the trains. kzbin.info/www/bejne/l5jdn414nrCSeNU But then there is always that one rail break that screws up everything so you got lucky.

[@ccrx6700]

@@gravelydon7072 i saw that, it just amazed me!

[@ed-gw3ov]

Thank you for taking the time to show us the progress. :)

[@ccrx6700]

Your welcome Ed, thank you for watching

[@ronaldpiper4812]

Relay rail ? This is a labor of love. I have always wondered about rail reading. I could ask those big questions. Concrete ties? Expensive I assume. Along with a bunch of other reasons. Just the thought of all those tons on a slim rail. Sure it works has for a real long time. I am asking silly questions but a cross brace rail to rail would stop some issues. But every few feet sure be impractable. For someone learning and or just interested. Ties layed on rock rail nailed down and ballest on ties and those skinny rails just seems it would not make to last first train. But lasts un known trains. So cool you explain to us. Thanks for watching I beg to differ thank you for posting. All the possible reasons others would not think of sharing. You sure are keeping me from asking the Iowa interstate crew from my billions of Guestions. Again thank you.

[@ccrx6700]

Lots of inquiries on rail and ties, gonna have to do some future vids on those topics for you Ronald, lots to talk about

[@railroad9000]

Remarkable progress in a short time span!

[@ccrx6700]

It certainly was Bill, really impressed me how much these guys got done, thanks for watching

[@julianp2868]

Amazing what damage occurs with a derailment

[@ccrx6700]

Yes it is Julian, lot of folks never really get to see detail up close like this and for many RR's this would be considered a miner derailment, can't imagine 20 or so cars off. Thanks for watching and glad you enjoyed

[@alexmodern6667]

Thank you for fantastic video.....

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you Alex, great to hear you enjoyed the show today

[@donaldwittmuss6079]

Looks like every 6th or 8th tie seemed new and had tie plates, to get rail back up and gauged...Assuming the days following the crews got all rail hardware back installed, on remaining ties, making it ready for tamping...and alignment....

[@mikeznel6048]

Looks.... Like.... You... Wish.... You.... Worked.... On... Railroad.... But.... Dont... ,... Only... Have... Opinions....Instead.... ........ ... . ... ... .... .. ... ....... ................... ... ...... .....

[@ccrx6700]

Yes Donald that is what they did, get enough good ties in to hold gage, then that night and the next day came and stuffed more ties in. Got some more vids coming of the work they did, and thanks for watching

[@donaldwittmuss6079]

@@ccrx6700 Great to hear your back up running...Any vids of tamping or regulating on this repair...

[@ccrx6700]

@@donaldwittmuss6079 not here, but will be lots more in future, never fear 😉

[@valeriebassett3107]

Looks like there is more ties that maybe need replacing., Do you do that? You are right, that is a mess. Amazing how fast that all gets fixed. Thank you for sharing. Your videos are fantastic always!!! Keep safe and healthy!

[@ccrx6700]

Yep Valerie a LOT more ties gonna go in yet, they just used enough here to hold track gage so they could lay rail down to the other end, that night they started stuffing more ties in. Thanks for the very nice comment

[@billsmith3195]

Real interesting Dave.

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you Bill 👍

[@brianhickey5949]

Progress! I have never seen a detailed recovery like this. The rails, the ties, the engine lift and walk - all fascinating. I know that the cost is somewhat staggering for all this in terms of time and money, but the outcome of the "why it happened" should put you folks in a better position once operations restart.

[@ccrx6700]

Thanks Brian, keep watching, more to come. Thanks for the nice comment sir

[@billtimmons7071]

Side poling each side of the locomotive must have required very good coordination skills between operators. When one brakes the other has to brake; when one starts crawling the other has to start crawling almost instantaneously it seems. It is very impressive how soon you guys are getting back on-line! It was a nasty derailment with great recovery skills! You guys are track trauma surgeons!

[@ccrx6700]

Yep it is a treat to see them walk a locomotive, gotta have a really good ground man directing and they do. Appreciate your watching Bill

[@4everdc302]

Dave!your HO Scale you is done and is on KZbin. Hope ya like it.

[@ccrx6700]

Yep Pappy text me the moment he put it up, he is amazing how he did it. I have the model and he will be posting more vids on it soon. He was here last week rail fanning with me, had a great day. Thanks for watching his channel too!

[@jeffbronowicz3264]

OK dave,!! Another great video!!

[@ccrx6700]

Well thank you Jeff, really thank you for the nice comment sir

[@thenasadude6878]

Dave: I'll need 3 passes with the tamper Management: Dave, we've just replaced a lot of track, please don't tamper with it

[@timslager5966]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@coniow]

Tamper tantrums should really be discouraged :-) !

[@ccrx6700]

LOL...I like that one!

[@timslager5966]

Thanks for the update, great job with your contractors👍👍

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you Tim, really good to hear you enjoyed the show today sir

[@ronhelman3985]

Great video Dave, thanks for sharing!!! It's nice to see things and have you explain, we appreciate it!!!

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you Ron, appreciate the nice comment and for watching sir

[@derrickanderson4932]

Kool Video.

[@ccrx6700]

Glad you liked today's show Derrick, appreciate your watching sir

[@danielrongo2367]

Great video

[@jjxtwo1]

It's nice to have an exciting job but wow, things got way too exciting. I'm looking forward to the video with more about what caused this. That will be a good one.

[@ccrx6700]

Thanks Jeff, wondering if you missed that video on why it happened? If so, here's the link kzbin.info/www/bejne/aKaqoKB5qr-ejJI

[@ericcoffedgp40]

Can't wait to see those trains rolling again! Great job documenting life on the railroad Dave.

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you Eric for the very nice comment and for viewing today's show sir

[@ericcoffedgp40]

@@ccrx6700 You're welcome! I am always looking forward to seeing a new video from you! 👍

[@dorothycole8611]

Good video.

[@ccrx6700]

Glad you enjoyed

[@StevenRides]

I've missed a few uploads and will have to go back. Looks like they're working really hard to fix all the rail. Glad to see progress is coming along. Looking forward to going back and seeing what more you have to update us with.

[@ccrx6700]

Thanks and more vids and pictures to come out on this, appreciate your watching Stev

[@KB-gs8zi]

Well Dave !!! Thanks again for videoing & Sharing as to what happened as saw your other videos !!! How does the LOCO like her ""RENEWED "" Wheels ??? Hope she runs true now ??? Have a good week & ""KEEP IT SAFE ""!!

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you K B, glad you enjoyed sir and appreciate your watching the show today

[@blondinizer4057]

I don't know where you're from but I am Pittsburgh native and you sure are speaking Pittburghese!

[@ccrx6700]

Yep! Bout an hour south of you. Pretty cool stuff

[@thomaspinnick5796]

I had meant to ask after watching the video on side bearing failures how often the cars were cycled through the car shop for routine maintenance. During my tenure we basically dealt with friction bearing trucks until the Army brought us refurbished 70s era box cars. Neither type of cars were subject to the heavy loads that you have.

[@ccrx6700]

Well Thomas, our shop mechanics are over worked and under staffed and some things just don't get done like they should.

[@conrailfan6277]

Boy that was some messed up track!! My friend was a track man for Conrail for years and he told me about a time in Ohio they had about a mile or so of track tore out by a derailed coal train!!!! I found the article about the truck bolster bearing pads, it was an article in TRAINS MAGAZINE Oct 2017 issue!! It was about stack train well cars derailing and the fix for it!!!!!

[@ccrx6700]

Kinda reminds you of some of the track Conrail inherited from Penn Central...LOL Cool beans on the Trains article! Thank you for the very nice comment sir

[@conrailfan6277]

@@ccrx6700 I grew up on the Big 4 Dow line from Anderson Indiana to Elkart Indiana, back at the end of the NYC into PC the line had ties that would pump mud as a long freight went North or South!! There were a few derailments too, me and my Grandfather spent a whole afternoon one time in the late 60s watching a wreck crew rerail 5 boxcars and a SW7 that rolled over the rails and grounded, NYC brought in a huge wreck crane and picked up the cars and engine and set them back on the track and as a 7year old that was fascinating!!!!!!!!! That was a very good article I hope you can find it!!!!!!!

[@gravelydon7072]

@@ccrx6700 Soon as Conrail took over, they pulled the track thru our farm in Ohio. One of the last runs I filmed of it had them running at about 5 MPH. They pulled back that year to a mine about 10 miles North of us. Next year they pulled back to where the track ends today. I have both the wooden milepost and the modern reflectorized one from on our farm. Milepost 1040. Does that make the modern one MP 1040A? :-) It took 16 years to get a final settlement and completely clear title on the ROW. At one point, my parents owned 2 miles of that ROW because PC/Conrail would not sell the ROW back directly to the landowners it crossed and would only sell in chunks. Although the original deeds were by the landowner and said that it not used for rail transportation, that the land reverted back to the landowners.

[@KB-gs8zi]

Hey Dave !!! When they took the "" Caboose "" off the end of the train with a track watchman in it & the ""UNMANNED DPU 's with only the track FRED's it sure opened things up just like this as a Workman would have heard that Noise & Stopped the train b/4 ALL the damage !!! The RR's say it was a Safety issue to have a workman back there ,,but makes one wonder ???

[@ccrx6700]

Like the song American Pie, the day the music died, the day railroadin died was when they took the cabooses off... LOL Cabooses saved the day many a time. thanks K B

[@KB-gs8zi]

@@ccrx6700 Yepper !! Now they are converting the ''cabooses '' into overnight motels !!! What a waste of heritage !!

[@ralphdeemie4916]

Sad thing to see but they are doing great work !!!

[@ccrx6700]

Yes it was sad, but proves what some really good men can do in a tough situation! Thanks Ralph for watching

[@wayneakins7850]

Good job done

[@ccrx6700]

Yes they did Wayne, appreciate your watching sir

[@Coasterfan1614]

That is quite the mess from the derailment

[@ccrx6700]

Yep sir but it now a really good section of track, these guys did a remarkable job, thank you so much for watching the show today

[@wasatchrangerailway6921]

I knew that the wheels riding the web was gonna be a problem! Fun, fun, fun!!!!!!! It might be a good idea to dig deep into why that cars truck refused to rotate so that another car doesn't try the same thing. It very well could have been a reversal in the turning moment with the flange biting the high rail coming around the curve. After all, the flanges rode the web of the high rail!!!!!! Was there any super L in that curve? With the way the rails were spread out so wide, it might be the possibility of a reversal in the turning moment! Just wondering!

[@ccrx6700]

Seen a lot of strange things to happen over the years as I'm sure you have also. Thanks for watching sir

[@official_traintuberfan2942]

Wow! Just subbed for that!

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you, glad you enjoyed, and welcome to our family here, lots more RR videos to come so hope you will stay tuned

[@official_traintuberfan2942]

@@ccrx6700 ok!

[@PlanetMojo]

Question: What is "relay rail". It will be nice to see the video about why it happened!

[@Dennis-vh8tz]

It was uploaded awhile ago: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aKaqoKB5qr-ejJI

[@silicon212]

"Relay rail" is used rail .. it's re-laid ... hence relay

[@PlanetMojo]

@@Dennis-vh8tz Thanks Denis!

[@PlanetMojo]

@@silicon212 Thank you silicon212!

[@ccrx6700]

Good question! Relay rail is used rail that meets certain specs to be able to be relaid, there are 4 classes of relay rail with certain FRA specs on the amount of wear for each class. Depending on the class of relay rail determines where it can be relaid, some can go in mains, other can only be used for sidings, etc. here's link to why it happened my friend kzbin.info/www/bejne/aKaqoKB5qr-ejJI

[@kens.3729]

The Derailment was quite the Mess. Shows you how important Car Maintenance is on the Railroad.

[@ccrx6700]

Yep Ken, gotta have a synergistic relationship between all moving parts. Appreciate your viewing today's show 👌

[@randydobson1863]

HELLO DAVE ITS IS RANDY AND I LIKE U VIDEO IS COOL THANKS DAVE FRIENDS RANDY

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you Randy, great to know you liked watching sir

[@jasonbabila6006]

Old rails like that from a derailment we scrap it all, we never think about reusing any, the same goes for the ties,

[@ccrx6700]

Yep all the rails are ear marked for a project they have on the slate dump, I think building a retaining wall, that all they good for. Thanks Jason for watching

[@gophergarage]

That was a lot of damage. Grease those trucks!

[@Stormovic5]

Question about track laying and jointed track in curves. Will the track naturally bend as it is installed in curves or will it need prebending? Correct me if I am wrong but I think the seamless rail will bend itself around curves during installation.

[@thenasadude6878]

If you search videos about laying track, you'll be surprised at how bendy the rail is. That's extremely noticeable when the new rail is manipulated by an excavator (usually with pliers instead of a bucket attachment). My guess is that the rail will follow the curve if the ties are laid properly and the curve radius is within the elastic deformation limit of the rail

[@ccrx6700]

Yes it will bend up to a certain degree curve, we install rail in curves by using lining bars and spiking the rail in place behind us, it is surprising how easily it will bend, specially when it's hot out. Thanks for watching

[@mackfisher4487]

Suggestion: Cut of the old rail and a 1 foot pieces and sell it for animals.

[@johncochran8497]

@Carl Ferrigno Suspect autocorrect got him. I think he intended to say "anvils".

[@ccrx6700]

Good suggestion, but the mine's slate pile already has a use for it building a retaining wall... and there goes my Ebay business selling anvils....darn it

[@TheLocutus70]

They going to use a magnet to pick up all those tie plates?

[@ccrx6700]

No, they will be used for the more ties they have to install yet, only the plates that were damaged got thrown away and replaced, thanks for watching

[@1957rayboconfederatecitizen]

This is very unusual, has the mining company not have a rail maintenance operation in place? This is really costly and deadly if in a populated area.

[@ccrx6700]

Yes we have a 2 man tack crew here, but this kind of huge repair job requires a lot of help from outside contractors Sam. You are right, derailments are very costly. Thank you for taking the time to visit with us and may you have a very good day my friend.

[@irongoatrocky2343]

This would be a good pitch for Rebuild or Replace the cars on the roster! and or get a loaner loco and have the the existing ones R/R'd one at a time. lucky no one was hurt here other than pride! i did see a video (a year or so ago) here on KZbin from the overpass of an eastbound where one of the cars was half empty.....I know it did not leave the mine like that!

[@ccrx6700]

We sure need a replacement set of cars! These CYMX cars are worn out. Everyday a car comes out bad order, they fix it and then work on the next one in line, it never ends. Thanks for watching

[@csterett]

I’m surprised you just didn’t go back in there with panel track.

[@ccrx6700]

That absolutely would have been the way to go if we had them available, but being this kind of thing hasn't happened since 1993 nobody ever saw a need to keep them on hand, remember we not BNSF! LOL Thanks for watching Chris

[@csterett]

@@ccrx6700 My thought was that the company you hired to repair the track would’ve supplied that. And I’ve seen those “sidewinders” pick up a rail car and “walk” it over to good track. I am a retired Volunteer Firefighter and in 1997 we were called to a local CSX yard where a couple of Haz-mat cars had overturned due to an extreme rainfall softening the track bed. I even saw one of those crawlers get hung up!

[@nml911]

Can you tell us more about the relay rail? What was its original rating? How much wear has taken place? Do you know where it came from i.e. original railroad and mainline? Thanks. Wonderful videos!

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you Neal, glad you are enjoying. relay rail is rail that was taken out and can be relaid. There are 4 classes of relay rail depending on the amount of wear on the rail in which class it fits and where it can be put in, sidings, mains, etc. Gonna do a future vid on that, lot to talk about

[@jonfoisy1237]

Just curious. Why are all the tie plates left in the middle of the road? New plates to be installed? Or old compromised??

[@ccrx6700]

Waiting for the installation of more ties, lots of ties yet need replaced Jon, thanks for watching

[@bluefj-wc3vz]

Lucky that area wasn't swampy or a drop off. Would of made things much more difficult .

[@ccrx6700]

Yes sir, we did have a lot of good things going for us, plus no rain only good solid ground on ROW to work off of, thanks for watching

[@MarvUSA]

Where's the first video, and I hope to see another today. What a mess.

[@ccrx6700]

You can watch all the videos about the derailment on a playlist here kzbin.info/aero/PLTyDYTDnT026NS6q2YPD3QhqyzQKnHLlr

[@tropifiori]

I can’t imagine what it costs to fix that

[@ccrx6700]

Big bucks for sure, but big expense was lost revenuefrom yrain not running, that is in the millions 😭

[@davidhanson6515]

When that much track has been damaged why don't they pull ties out and replace them at same time clean up blast

[@ccrx6700]

A very good many ties were replaced, we got over 4 tractor trailer loads in on very short notice, each load is 190 ties so yes the ties that were chewed up did get replaced. All good relay rail was laid down also. Thanks for taking the time to tune in and watch today my friend.

[@melperry3576]

you guys going into the track panel building business?

[@ccrx6700]

LOL, having panels sure would have made this go a lot quicker! Thanks Mel for watching

[@johnwaby4321]

Are all the rail support wooden sleepers going to be replaced as well .

[@ccrx6700]

Pretty much of all them had gotten destroyed John so you are right, they all got replaced. We were lucky the tie company was able to send us several tractor trailer loads on very short notice. Thanks so much for checking out the video and may you have a very good day my friend.

[@johnblair8146]

Pot tag? Point of curve marker?

[@ccrx6700]

Yes sir John, that plot tag is where the computer on the tamper knows where to start the curve. Thank you so much for viewing today's show

[@cappaman2058]

Sorry I would’ve been here sooner but you know the Trump rally in Ohio was on it was awesome I’m glad to see you tomorrow great video as well

[@ccrx6700]

Better late than never! Appreciate your watching sir

[@sed6]

Umm, where is everyone? I figured all hands on deck 24/7 until finished.

[@ccrx6700]

They had crews working round the clock and at the time of this video everyone was behind us, believe me they had everyone out here they could find at the time. Thanks for watching

[@miker648]

I would like to know what the total cost $$$ is for the repair to the track , and locomotive ???

[@ccrx6700]

I sure wouldn't want to pay for it! If I knew the total I would tell you, but billing not my department, thanks Michael for watching

[@ccrx6700]

@Carl Ferrigno like clint eastwood movie, for a few dollars more...lol thanks Carl for seeing todays show 👌

[@MikeBrown-ii3pt]

I don't even want to know. I own a small trucking company and recently had to have one of my rigs towed from a crash scene. The tractor and trailer are a total loss but luckily, nobody was seriously injured and my driver wasn't at fault. However, due to the condition of my equipment and the fact that it had to travel nearly 700 miles back home (I wanted it here), it cost me nearly $20k for recovery and transport. I know that's only a fraction of what this cost but, it's never cheap when you have to bring out the big boy toys!

[@littlewingpsc27]

Isn't the "legal" operating limit in the USA 1 good tie every 5 ties a requirement for 5 ~ 10 MPH operation? I guess you could in theory run a train through there now with slow orders, but I think I would want more ties in place first as well. Do they legally have to replace all the spikes and tie plates when something like this happens or can the tie plates be re-used? I assume all new spikes are needed.

[@mikeznel6048]

I don't think you know how rail repair works... They're repairing track, not laying a new one...

[@ccrx6700]

CFR 49 states that on class 2 track there must be a minimum of 9 good cross ties per rail stick, however it is obvious that the more the better. Tie plates that were cut or damaged were replaced, those with no visible defect were reused and yes all new spikes were used, hope that helps and thanks for watching my friend

[@littlewingpsc27]

@@mikeznel6048 Yes, I know they are repairing the track. I was responding to a comment CCRX 6700 made about how the company wanted to start running trains quickly. Obviously fixing all the bad ties damaged in the accident needs to be done. I was just commenting on how soon in theory they could start before all the work was completed.

[@billjefferson5101]

Hello, I’m in high school right now and I’m very interested in becoming a train engineer. Do you have any advice or tips on what I should do to make that a reality? Thanks.

[@ccrx6700]

Bill, best bet try and hire on with a regional or short line and work your way up. Starting out at the bottom you gain experience that will help you become a better engineer. There are a few schools that give course on that and for conductors, I believe there is one near Kansas City if you want to do some checking, that is a good option also. I've heard they are very good and best of luck to you sir

[@Kapparie]

The US flew to the moon, but this track looks like it was last maintained before that achievement.

[@ccrx6700]

It a mess, in a couple vids from now you'll see the final product, and it looks great. Appreciate your watching 👍

[@geraldblackburn4883]

Looks like there will be a lot of ties that will be replaced ! Looks like there are only every 4 or 5 ties replaced to set the rail ?

[@ccrx6700]

Yep Gerald, just enough for now to hold gage so the could lay track to tie in down below to existing track. That night the crews started adding more ties in. Thanks for watching my friend

[@hectorreymundo4215]

Hello Sir, question, is wood better than cement for the sleepers?

[@ccrx6700]

Lots of pros and cons on both, might wanna read this interesting article www.rtands.com/track-structure/ballast-ties-rail/new-paradigm-design-concrete-crossties/

[@hectorreymundo4215]

@@ccrx6700 awesome, thank you Sir, very interesting indeed

[@rodneydaub3812]

The rail plates, why is only every 4th tie attached at this point?

[@ccrx6700]

To hold track gage so they could tie in the rails behind us to the existing rail, they will come back and put more in, thanks for watching Rodney

[@rodneydaub3812]

@@ccrx6700 thanks for having a good informative channel and interacting! I have watched so much of your channel that I just read that comment and it sounded like your voice in my head lol

[@ccrx6700]

@@rodneydaub3812 👍 😊

[@bobparsons77]

Looks like a big headache.

[@brianburns7211]

Why tamp when you only have about every 4th. tie in?

[@ccrx6700]

Had to wait until all ties were put in before tamping, they started shoving more ties in that night. Thanks for watching and more vids to come Brian

[@petert24turner71]

You dont have as many ties, how is it going to go ?

[@ccrx6700]

We were lucky and had 4 tractor trailer loads of ties delivered, it was a total blessing to have the tie plant get them to us that quick, usually takes several weeks for an order to go thru

[@josephhoak1235]

I still see a punch of broken ties

[@fredygump5578]

They will all get replaced. The first step is to get the rails sorted out, so they put in a few new ties to hold the rails. Then they'll go back and replace the ties inbetween.

[@ccrx6700]

They will all get replaced Joseph, only enough good ones for now to hold track gage, that night and next day bunch more new ties went it. Thanks for watching sir

[@forsakenghost7054]

Have they found the cause of the derailment if so was it train or track related i dont think it was track related not with the way you keep the rails

[@silicon212]

I believe it was tracked down to a sticky truck bolster on one of the cars.

[@rearspeaker6364]

@@silicon212 correct.

[@ccrx6700]

Jacob, watch this video that explains my theory on why it happened kzbin.info/www/bejne/aKaqoKB5qr-ejJI

[@ocsrc]

What caused the rail to roll over ?

[@leebarnes655]

Why the Derailment at Curve 18 Happened kzbin.info/www/bejne/aKaqoKB5qr-ejJI

[@DeeFPV]

whiy arnt you uesing concrete railway sleepers

[@ccrx6700]

dee, there are pros and cons on wood and concrete, pleas read this article when you sometime have time, and thanks for watching the video www.rtands.com/track-structure/ballast-ties-rail/new-paradigm-design-concrete-crossties/

[@class8866]

Do not spike rails ! Screw them !

[@ccrx6700]

That would be great, but for here we would need to replace 17 miles of tie plates to accept them, don't think that gonna be in the budget any time soon. Thanks for watching

[@Justme-jt1ef]

What’s relay rail??

[@dock_yard1149]

It’s rail that was in place before somewhere else, then removed and stored for future needs.

[@ccrx6700]

It's used rail that can be relaid, there are 4 classes of relay rail with FRA specs on amount of wear for each class, depending on class of relay depends on where it can be relaid, such as mains or sidings, etc. Great question and thanks for watching