End of Summer Tubbing 2024 Results - White Clouds, Rainbow Shiners

[@gregjonesonline]

Let me know what fish you tried outdoors this year!

[@Rews-fish-shed]

That sediments great composting if you do that. You could of removed that one cross support to make life easier for you just a suggestion. Nice haul though. Sucks about the Rainbow Shiners I was looking to get some from you.

[@bathyphila]

I used to have losses of tub fish upon bringing them indoors much like what you experienced with the rainbow shiners (sudden deaths 6-24 hours after putting them in a tank). I haven't had that issue since I started doing the old school "water transfer" type acclimation upon bringing them inside. Basically I put the fish in a 5g bucket with 3 inches of tub water, then add a few inches of tank water every 10-15 minutes until the bucket is at least 3/4 full. I know you said your water parameters tested the same between the outdoor system and your indoor tanks, but I don't trust the rather limited array of hobbyist-grade tests to capture all of the variables in such a system. Since I've started doing this I've had minimal losses bringing fish indoors. Also, another piece of advice I learned the hard way: when you leave fish in mostly full buckets they're liable to jump out. I lost several Danio kyathit when bringing them indoors a couple seasons ago to jumping when I left them to acclimate in a nearly full bucket for an hour or so. Since you asked in the beginning of the video, my own tubbing season was also rather underwhelming. Of the dozen or so species/varieties I put out this year only about half produced any offspring, and most of those in small numbers. My biggest disappointment was that I had two tubs of Aphanius mento that were full of juveniles in mid-August, but when I took them down in mid-September one tub held only two of the breeder females and a dozen or so

[@gregjonesonline]

Great tips, I'm going to try that next time I totally agree

[@WhiteCloudDynasty]

So white cloud normally will eat more golden fry than normal fry. I'm sure you could have gotten more fry if you only put 2-3 pairs in there. I have try the basket for white cloud and it does work but they need a rock less bottom and alot of plant matter in the basket with them.

[@gregjonesonline]

That's what I noticed, the first year I started with 6 fish in 300 gal and got way more fry, more adults meant less fry, I'm going to experiment with marble traps etc

[@TMAquatics]

Wow, interesting results. Strange about the rainbow shiners. Still a fun and successful tubbing experiment. White clouds for days. 👍

[@gregjonesonline]

Yeah I'm still upset about the shiners, they looked fine even in the tank and then they each went belly up all within an hour of each other which makes me think low O2

[@NYGOLD]

That's a decent Whitecloud harvest. Too bad about the Shiners.

[@2023byoml]

I live near Portland Oregon and have been able to keep rainbow shiners, white clouds, rice fish, goldfish and shrimp out year round. For how far north we are we are in plant hardiness zone 8b the same north on the east coast has a way lower harder zone number

[@jeffkane4391]

Sorry to hear about the rainbow shiners, Greg 🥺

[@whitecloudmountainminnowpr6353]

Love white clouds. They are my favourite fish.

[@keithcolley3837]

I'm so glad Greg's back!

[@tee_pierce6]

My man greg 💯

[@ColossalKoi]

Awesome channel… where did u get the green house from…

[@gregjonesonline]

Grandio

[@ZaneofAustin]

you buy new plants every year? that seems a bit expensive and redundant tbh. can't you just get like a bucket or bus tub and throw a cheap clip on grow light on it? might not grow great over winter, but if you can keep it alive it just seems like it'd be better than forsaking all those perfectly fine floating plants. Unless they just come back on their own already or you have another source of them. and im sure they do add a ton of nutrients to the compost though, probably one of the best things for it.

[@gregjonesonline]

water hyacinth always dies indoors i've tried several times with stupid amount of light over them, i can keep water lettuce alive but it stays in the dwarf form indoors, i saved some frogbit because it's my favorite floater and does ok indoors but not great. the rest are easy enough to get for a dollar a bag during spring fish auctions. I don't find it's worth the investment in expensive lighting or ferts to over winter floaters

[@TerraMagnus]

@@gregjonesonlineyeah I think most folks who try keeping water lettuce and water hyacinth indoors over the winter have similar results. The one tank I have that seems to keep them alive has crappy LED lights on a timer and the difference is I keep them with goldfish. I am beginning to suspect that most aquariums are too clean and the floating plants just starve. Put them with big fat heavy poopers like goldfish and maybe, just maybe, they’ll do alright.

[@Northerntide19]

I tried golden white clouds and cpds in 30g totes. No luck with either one. Didnt lose any, but no fry.

[@gregjonesonline]

I'm going to experiment with some egg scattering marble trays and other egg protection methods this winter and see how I do next year

[@Northerntide19]

@@gregjonesonline Thats fair. i thought about the marbles for next year, but was leaning towards floating buckets with mesh bottoms in the totes. I saw you tried that for the regular whiteclouds, were they not really working out for the goldens either ?

[@CaringForAnimals1414]

Hi Mr.Greg I have a question do you know if Newts are legal to have in California? I live in California I wanted an axolotl but I saw it was illegal to have one in California. Thank You

[@gregjonesonline]

State laws are all different, you can Google CA laws newts, or CA amphibian laws to find out

[@CaringForAnimals1414]

Hi Mr.Greg Thank You for the information God Bless You