Endgame Directors CONFIRM Why Hulk Is Stronger Than Thanos

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[@LJBJ50]

Hulk's not supposed to get discouraged when he starts to lose. He gets angry and starts to overpower and that didn't happen with Thanos.

[@JJ-rf7dg]

Russo bros. f**ked it up.

[@luso5201]

They had to nerf people to make the movie. Full powered hulk, vision and Wanda would’ve cause the movie to be 10 hours long

[@BBD0984]

@@luso5201 Also wouldn't have been much of a fight.

[@BBD0984]

Is this because he didn't have chance to get mad? Thanks did kind of toy with the Hulk a little, but still finished him off pretty quick. Did he not have chance to get angry? Or, all the quick strikes from Thanos? Quick, but like rifle shots. Did this again just keep interupting Hulks.....power up? That was my view watching Endgame.

[@getschwifty5537]

Yeah him getting beat up at the start of IW isn't the problem, it's Hulk chickening out through the rest of the movie. If anything he should have been itching for a rematch every second.

[@von6164]

Lets just say Hulk is so inconsistent. This is the same Hulk that stopped a 200ft alien whale in NY with a single punch! Yet he couldn’t just throw Thanos through the ship and call it a day.

[@typeouetco1626]

let's pretend other characters couldn't beat the leviathans right? It's not like the explosion produced by the use of the gauntlet can blow countries or something

[@blksheepramirez]

Was just thinking this my friend, well said!

[@Samb467]

@@typeouetco1626 the infinity stones hold much more power then that they can easily destroy planets or the universe If need be

[@typeouetco1626]

@@Samb467 I meant the side effect of the gauntlet. When thanos snapped, a 20 gigatons explosion was released, and he handled it pretty well

[@localplatypus994]

The Leviathan's are weaker than Thanos. And Thanos also had an infinity stone in that battle.

[@robertzenniful]

I love the look of the original Edward Norton Hulk , the new Hulk has more of a gorilla look. I agree that Thanos is more skilled fighter but the Hulk did get training in the Sarkar , which the Russo Brothers seem to overlook

[@BC08]

Wasn’t enough because Thanos is stronger

[@__Luke__]

The Edward Norton Hulk movie was actually quite good, but the problem with it is that it had much too much soap opera. If they cut 30 minutes of the drivel from it, it would be great. The two major fight sequences (one at the college, and the other at the end of the movie) are so much fun to watch. Norton is also much more appealing than the new actor, who gets quite tedious after a while.

[@robertzenniful]

@@BC08 is he?

[@BC08]

@@robertzenniful Sure, how else would he have casually peeled Hulk’s hands off his neck then bent his arms out while smiling in his face if he isn’t? No skill at all there, just raw horsepower.

[@TheHiddenShadowz]

@@BC08 Are you dumb? This entire video was about how hulk is stronger then here you are saying that thanos is stronger... what an idiot

[@anubusx]

I wish we had got to see a Hulk and Thanos rematch.

[@TekniCaliSpeakin]

Won't happen. They nerfed Hulk to apply pressure on Universal. This whole video is BS. Corporate mind games is why Hulk was beat so easy

[@kinglydagon6035]

@@TekniCaliSpeakin I don't think so, Hulk loses to Thanos in the comics almost every time time.......so.........yeah. I think they were sticking to the source material. (Info received and am now culturing myself in hulk comics, I apologize for the misinformation/talking right out of my ass)

[@TekniCaliSpeakin]

@@kinglydagon6035 Hulk has never lost to anyone that fast

[@TekniCaliSpeakin]

The last time Hulk landed a punch on anyone was in Ragnarok.. Bruce Banner was a pivotal character in Infinity war and endgame. All Hulk did was get beat up by Thanos and say no. It's not a coincidence dude.

[@davidm4566]

I so wanted to see Professor Hulk get angry and then Hulkout to the next level into World-breaker Hulk.

[@alessandros.marques9283]

The Russo brothers are always contradicting themselves, lol.

[@BJETNT]

The hulk Grew the second he was trapped in that foam and while he was getting shot in the original movie it shouldn't have taken time for him to power up as soon as Thanos grab his arms and they started to be able to move back the hulk should have been able to compensate genetically and start to grow and get stronger not take 10 minutes to fire up. When I started getting my hands pride off of somebody and my job that would make me mad and I need him right in the chest but that's never happened to me. Put your hands around somebody's throat is kind of a finishing move not something you do at the beginning of a fight They can fight back too easily especially if they're facing you.

[@albertoruano8752]

Fk it makes sense tho on what if black dwarf was able to go toe to toe with thanos

[@jasonrhodes9683]

in all the Marvel movies, the heroes have a variable power level.

[@Tenshikichi1]

I searched for an article about this but can't find one. Is this one of his vids with no credibility?

[@deanmacksbgcorkcity9517]

Yeah they literaly said before Thanos is stronger hahahaha

[@voteindependentforindepend7181]

The hulk spent 2 years battling people of similar stature on sakar and was the reigning champion until thor shower up. It was poor writing to have him just rage charge thanos like that, thanos could have still outskilled him to set the movie up but it just doesn't make sense he still uses the baby giant fighting technique.

[@randybobandy9828]

Similar stature? Says who? He clearly destroyed any "dougs" who decided to fight him. There was no indication anyone came close to being a match for hulk in sakaar. Look how nervous the grand Master got when thor was winning.

[@draco_1876]

@@randybobandy9828 Hulk has been proven to be stronger than Thanos numerous times

[@I-need-2-win]

@@randybobandy9828 and people say in the comics that Thanos even said he would avoid fighting the hulk soo.....

[@Belsarius26]

As much as I didn't like Ang Lee's Hulk, he was the only director to get him right. As Hulk gat angrier he got stronger and larger. The Russo Brothers and Edward Norton's Hulk are super strong but not comic correct. I do love those movies but I believe they depowered The Hulk for the Story. If Thanos had lost to Hulk it would have been a really short movie.

[@calebstephan2083]

Edward Nortons hulk did get stronger when he got angry though. When he was getting rag dolled by abomination he got angrier and broke abominations grip and started beating him up.

[@ramerefauntleroy4881]

Yea but to scare the hulk to the point he scared to come out and fight is straight up bullshit

[@eghoseisiramen1892]

@Dustin Watkins yeah that's not a valid reason either

[@eghoseisiramen1892]

@Dustin Watkins I get your point. The reason why I said it's not a valid reason is because they didnt portray it as such. They portrayed it as hulk being scared

[@ultimamage3]

@@eghoseisiramen1892 That explanation of "Hulk not wanting to be used as a weapon" still doesn't make sense since apparently the solution was Hulk agreeing to let his body be a green meat puppet for Banner's brain when Ragnarok established him as developing his own intellect and personality. So he didn't want to be used as a weapon but lets Banner use his body as a meat-shield for the Snap? Banner described Hulk being out as a terrifying loss of control as his own mind was locked in the back of a trunk, and then thinks it's okay to subject the burgeoning Hulk personality to that same fate and blacking him out for the rest of his existence?

[@dbcria1]

The Russo Brothers still nerfed the Hulk. If I were directing the Thanos fight scene I would have done it like this: The fight goes down much as it did, but once Hulk is down you see even more anger in his face. He grows in strength, but gets knocked down again, and this repeats several times until finally you see bolts of electricity around Hulk as he shows his first ever worldbreaker inclination. Now he's well above Thanos's ability to counter, even with his advanced fighting skill. At that point Thanos is now the one who is down and Ebony Maw clears his throat and says "Ahem", which Thanos knows as a signal to use the power stone. He does so and knocks Hulk straight out the side of the ship where he's floating in space to later be found by the Nova corp. As it stood, the Russo brothers totally nerfed Hulk.

[@mitchellmastell5280]

Love that version except no nova core I woulda played hulk gets knocked outta the ship himdal quickly uses his frost or rainbow bridge ability teleporting hulk to earth like he eventually does so hulk/bruce banner can warn the rest of the avengers

[@odogg6899]

Not bad but no way he knocks Worldbreaker hulk like that lol. Not even with power stone. Better they both fight till they both end breaking a hole in the ship and end up in space where they just leave hulk ass there till he gets picked up and they just go on with their business.

[@dbcria1]

@@odogg6899 I agree, but I’m referring to the beginning stages of WB status. Full-blown WB status would come in a later film. That would be my vision.

[@julianparker896]

I like this idea too👍 only I think that it should have been used as the rematch between Hulk and Thanos that we were all hoping to see in Endgame but we never got.

[@jessevargas8564]

I totally agree but instead of him floating off in space, it'd change it to cut right back to the scene where Heimdall uses the bifrost to transport him to earth which would still lead to his death by Thanos. The whole professor Hulk thing shouldn't have happened til after Endgame. In Endgame, Hulk should've been unleashed in that battle as WWHulk with him taking the fight scene from Cap'n Marvel vs Thanos instead. She should've just came in to bust up the ship and clear a path for the gauntlet run scenes. They nerfed him in THE MCU and in the mobile game Constest of Champions too!!! I'm sick of all the disrespect on the Hulk!!!!!!!

[@PiiskaJesusFreak]

If you look at the grip Thanos uses to free himself of Hulks stranglehold, you'll notice that it is a type of move that does not work unless you are significantly stronger than your adversary. That scene clearly shows Thanos to be stronger, and the beatdown that follows shows Thanos to also be much more skilled. If Russos wanted to portray Thanos only as more skilled and not also physically more powerful, they should have made Thanos free himself in some other manouver. Thanos is in a position of weakness and Hulk in position of strength, yet Thanos still overpowers him.

[@XLR8Games]

Facts!!!!

[@ocieljuarez3703]

This...

[@karnage2948]

Thank you someone went at me saying it was thanos’s skill only and tried say that I didn’t even watch the video I basically said this to shut him up

[@XLR8Games]

@@karnage2948 anyone who has seen wresrling or mma knows that Thanos had to be physically superior in order to over power Hulk when Hulk had leveage etc and in a position of power etc.

[@karnage2948]

@@XLR8Games I know I watch it and train muay. I’m watching Costa vs vettori rn actually. I had told the guy who was disagreeing with me what the guy above said hours ago I’m just glad that there aren’t many stupid people out there when regarding this topic

[@scribblingjoe]

I think the writers wrote Thanos stronger than the Hulk because they couldn't think of a clever way for Thanos to win the fight.

[@jsmaelsartor595]

Technically hulk is above the power stone in the comics but in the mcu the strength of hulk is unknown but if they say "hulk is stronger than thanos" hulk must be stronger than him But (😂) thanos in the film overpowered the hulk without use the power stone so or they don't know for real the ability of the characters and made an error or they wasn't capable to close a fight between hulk and thanos at the beginning of the film

[@dorksdomain8355]

Even tho there is a literally rock on thanos arm that gives him enough strength to punch a planet in half

[@iamyourworstnightmare]

@@jsmaelsartor595 bruh Thanos only with the power stone stomped all the hero’s (including hulk)

[@ultimamage3]

@@dorksdomain8355 The Russos don't know what they're doing; their commentary said Thanos wasn't using the Stone to beat the Hulk AND Thanos overpowered Hulk with a move that only makes sense if he's physically more powerful than his opponent; weaker fighters can't pull it off in the same position.

[@dorksdomain8355]

@@ultimamage3 which move you talking about, the one where he did the arm wrist thing?

[@stephandelange1776]

Usually, if you follow the Hulk's history, the more your push him, the more pissed-off he gets. (Meaning the more powerful & dangerous he gets). But as much as I love Mark Ruffalo's Hulk character, " he's a lot funnier" I only have one problem with it. He never seems to get the Hulk as scary and as high-end pissed as Edward Norton's Hulk was. Which could've turned the tide. So back to the point. If hulk would have gotten as angry and ferocious as he was in Johannesburg city, maybe the dual with Thanos would've turned a bit different. Just my opinion!

[@KATASTROPHE69S]

also they teleported him to earth before he got back up. he probably would've curb stomped thanos if they wouldn't have done that.

[@HTMN161]

His hulk being scary or not isn’t up to him

[@cringekiller348]

Cap.. Hulk is weak compared to Thanos.

[@PathsUnwritten]

There are no instances of Hulk getting stronger as he gets angrier in the movies. That's seemingly just a comic book thing so far.

[@karnage2948]

@@theincredibleharry151 was gonna say that as well but yh it’s kinda sad that despite that he’s still a little bitch in the movies compared to what he should be

[@PathsUnwritten]

@@theincredibleharry151 Getting a second wind isn't the same thing as his strength increasing due to anger. Even Black Widow and Hawkeye have had moments like that. At no point in continuity was it ever addressed that he actually increases in strength, much less due to anger or to an unlimited degree.

[@PathsUnwritten]

@@theincredibleharry151 Yeah, the classic "You've lost and now I'm gonna kill the one you love" that happens in every superhero fight. It doesn't mean he's suddenly infused with additional super strength any more than it did when it happened to Captain America in Civil War against Iron Man, or the countless times in every Spider-Man fight on film.

[@mckid2683]

I just heard of the stand alone hulk movie they wanna make based on World War Hulk and 2 days later(today) the directors say Hulk is still stronger than Thanos? Without showing it in any movie thus far? Coincidence? No. They are hyping Hulk up this early so they have the next however long til the movie comes out to keep hyping World War Hulk up to the younger Audience to sell more tickets is all that is about

[@ultimamage3]

McFeely: "Here you see the early establishment of just how fearsome Thanos is even without, he’s got one stone here and I don’t think he’s even using it." Joe Russo: "He’s not using [the Power Stone]. This is to show that Thanos, the Genghis Khan of the Marvel Universe, he’s unbeatable in a 1-on-1 battle. He’s conquered thousands of worlds. He’s a much more polished fighter than the Hulk, and Thor, and Loki." They went from "Thanos is unbeatable in a 1v1, he's not even using the Power Stone to beat the brakes off of Hulk" to "Hulk is stronger than Thanos" now that they want to hype up a movie? That's soulless.

[@professional.thesaurus.1685]

Let's face it, Hulk is indeed weaker than Thanos, but his strength expands with his wrath. Until he gets to the stage where he is physically unstoppable. As a result, whenever Thanos fights him in the comics, the fight never gets out of hand. Because Thanos understands that his power is linked to his rage. Thanos is aware that the Hulk may be able to outstretch him at some moment. The Hulk could’ve been *easily* knocked out by abomination in the first film (similar to what thanos did) since he was injected with a *bootlegged* version of the super soldier serum, making him significantly stronger and better in every way than the hulk, but again, he was defeated because he was boastful and prolonged the confrontation. Unlike Thanos, who is far too clever to allow the battle to develop.

[@rjinsigne9477]

The 2008 hulk no doubt would give infinity war thanos a better fight

[@itsanightmaresobeware7777]

It’s the same hulk

[@J_THAM3NACE2]

2008 hulk was more of a monster in the Incredible Hulk than in avengers

[@tbone2123]

Agreed

[@I-need-2-win]

@@itsanightmaresobeware7777 while it's true, I want to believe it's not lol, how do you go from an awesome looking hulk who is supposed to be hulk to now Shrek? The 2008 is smart, and knows what he's doing and trys to adapt in fighting while the same current hulk doesn't, he just uses brute force and punching

[@darrinwilliams5707]

@@itsanightmaresobeware7777 it defiantly is not😂

[@t-money3.3.3]

He is saying that the Hulk was barely transformed when he fought Thanos, but he was Hulk at the end of Ragnorok after fighting the wolf and punching Surtur. I’m pretty sure he had enough rage in him. Not disputing everything else he was saying in the video, just that

[@Sw-nn6le]

Didn't Thanos already have the Power Stone? That would be a definite game changer

[@t-money3.3.3]

@@Sw-nn6le he did, but the directors had said he didn’t use it to beat Hulk

[@elfbrownie7226]

@@t-money3.3.3 funny how those two jack asses say whatever they need to when it suits them they have contradicted themselves too many times to count. Let them sit the next few movies out imo.

[@giltyascharged]

@@Sw-nn6le the power stone was never glowing when fighting hulk.. if it was he wouldve just ended the hulk with one hit

[@TheAirNomad]

Facts

[@thebiblenerd8838]

The problem I see with this is that at one point in the fight, Thanos does simply out muscles the Hulk. This happens when the Hulk has his hands around the neck of Thanos, and Thano grabs the Hulk each of his hands and is able to remove them. This is actually even more impressive because the muscles used to pull the arms off of him are normally not as strong as the those by which Hulk was using to hold him. If they were simply trying to show that Thanos was a much more skilled fighter, they could have shown a skill move that allows a much weaker person to break free. It involves twisting your body to the side, while bringing your arm up at a 90 degree angle and then driving your triceps down with force. This will break the choke hold. The fact that they did show Thanos out muscling the Hulk was intentional and it was because they were really trying to show how formidable Thanos really was. Yes, it is possible that Hulk was not enraged enough to be at his strongest, but that seems weak to me as a reason considering what Thanos had just done to the ship and the people on it. Another inconsistancy involved how Thor and Hulk were able to knock each other nearly out of the arena, but when Hulk and Thanos fought, they mostly stood toe to toe. Each punch, by either one of them should have sent them crashing into and likely through some of the walls of the spacecraft. If you suggest that they were holding back so as not to destroy and outer wall giving an opening to space, then they should not have been able to hurt each other.

[@michaelday9896]

I thought thanos “used” the power stone. It wasn’t evident but that, to me would have given thanos an edge on a base level hulk

[@sflaZerne]

Exactly, this is the only way that fight makes any sense.

[@randybobandy9828]

He didn't use the powerstone on hulk.

[@ultimamage3]

McFeely and Joe Russo both confirmed that Thanos didn't use the Power Stone.

[@anonymousjones6218]

@@ultimamage3 Correct.

[@kevin9218]

If hulk got angry enough, he could swat Thanos like a fly. Hulk wasn't especially angry at the beginning of the fight and after being so soundly trounced, he was probably becoming more afraid than angry. This was illustrated by hulk's unwillingness to come back out after the fight.

[@J_THAM3NACE2]

Plus hulk saw all of his friends get like beated up badly so he was a bit worried fighting thanos because the hulk saw what thanos did to the people he knew

[@randybobandy9828]

No hulk wasn't afraid to come back out . He was tired of being used only when banner needs him to fight.

[@kevin9218]

@@randybobandy9828 but hulk loves a good fight, even gets pouty if people tell him to stop fighting something (surtur). I don't think he was tired of fighting.

[@apurvaaryan7984]

Afterall he is the strongest avenger even through Tony's standards.

[@BJETNT]

Thor kicked his ass pretty easy!! Just as strong and a better fighter. I am a hulk fan too. I was shocked too.

[@DevilGamer-xk5hd]

@@BJETNT yes because in the mcu they made hulk so weak!

[@BarackBananas]

@@DevilGamer-xk5hd In the comics Thor still whooped that ass so what’s your point?

[@rickybrar2955]

@@BarackBananas oo please just do research hulk winning is more then thor🤣🤣

[@marquise7200]

I would say Wanda first Thor Hulk

[@Law064]

1st off at the end of Thor the hulk was the hulk. He didn’t have to change. I the MCU has used the hulk as a punching bag to show how strong his opponents are. He was used for a measuring stick for strength in the MCU and been nerfed. After being hit by Thanos he should’ve gotten angrier and angrier fueling his rage and strength. Hulk would’ve most likely grabbed Thanos and use his strength instead of throwing those wild slow blows. I see Thanos winning cause of his skill set at the beginning but to flat out beat him unconscious is bizarre.

[@michaelthatoker7125]

They can confirm it all they want, won’t change the media they actually put out. They dropped the ball HARD when it comes to the whole Hulk-vs-thanos dynamic

[@Kirin99008]

Hulk got nerfed 😭 I know that he is physically stronger than Thanos.

[@ruffgodz9543]

if we're talking bout the mcu version and base hulk then you're wrong

[@phillipjohnson4415]

​@@ruffgodz9543what

[@aalandan]

On top of the strength of the Hulk being so much more, the Russos continue to forget Hulks healing factor. Hulk should have been able to do way more damage to Thanos. What we don't know is how much extra juice Thanos was getting from the infinity stones, I think that was the key to being able to overpower the Hulk.

[@MDCVERSE.1]

If your talking about the power stones no That didnt do anything To thanos or gain him up Russo brothers also replied to it and Said This was just Raw strength and skill plus thanos has a higher durability than thor who took so much hits on the face By an angry hulk so thanos could havr taken 100 punches of thode

[@ultimamage3]

@@MDCVERSE.1Sources-- McFeely: "Here you see the early establishment of just how fearsome Thanos is even without, he’s got one stone here and I don’t think he’s even using it." Joe Russo: "He’s not using [the Power Stone]. This is to show that Thanos, the Genghis Khan of the Marvel Universe, he’s unbeatable in a 1-on-1 battle. He’s conquered thousands of worlds. He’s a much more polished fighter than the Hulk, and Thor, and Loki."

[@Zapatozi]

Hulk has always been the strongest. MCU just haven't done a good job showcasing it.

[@itzangel_yt40]

Hulk and Thor physicaly

[@BC08]

Strongest what? Mortal?

[@itzangel_yt40]

@@BC08 Thor is strongest unless Hulk didn't have a rage limit

[@Zapatozi]

@@itzangel_yt40 True. Hulk without rage can be taken down pretty easily by Thor. But if he goes to rage, he can literally tear down worlds by just standing on it like in the world breaker Hulk comics.

[@BC08]

@@Zapatozi Worldbreaker took a step and almost collapsed the eastern seaboard. “Almost”. Never saw Worldbreaker Hulk break a world just by standing on it.

[@user-gp5kh5tu4k]

"Hulk has little in the way of training." He´d just spent two years on a planet as its resident gladiator...

[@rubenesparza7546]

Don’t think that necessarily means he was trained there though. He just kicked peoples butts. Power doesn’t trump skill

[@Sephiroth144]

Two years compared to decades/centuries- yeah, that's just a little. (Hell, ranked fighters IRL have more than a couple years of training.)

[@bigheadrhino]

They were effective in making the main villain intimidating right off the bat though, something both Avengers and Age of Ultron failed at. In those two the villain was defeted fairly easily early on which left the impression that they didn’t really have a chance of winning anyway.

[@danieldavidgt]

Though Loki was more of a mental threat, he split the team up pretty easily. Although they did come back.

[@PoisonJarl71501]

Thanos is confusing. I’ve read he took on hull, the thing and Thor at the same time without the stones. Also that is power is a combination of his eternal/deviant genes, science, cybernetics and magic. He also just took a backhand from Thor and multiple punches from the hulk and hardly budged. I think MCU thanos is way above in power

[@bignardo95]

I don't like the fact that Hulk spent two whole years as The Grandmasters ultimate gladiator. But none of that came into play when he faced Thanos.

[@Damienp3902]

He probably only fought people 10 times weaker than he is until Thor came and beat his a$$.

[@phannikun3515]

Every time hulk loses to mad titan,he cleverly stops it early before hulk powers up more than him with time.

[@way469]

The Hulk/Thanos fight was garbage. Hulk would never be be surprised & look scared when his hands were pulled back. He would have snapped and went berserker on Thanos ripping him in two.

[@birons3708]

I know. The Russo brothers ruined all of their credibility

[@anonymousjones6218]

That's true of the comic version... but he's significantly less powerful in the MCU (at least the later movies).

[@godkingdrago8219]

Instant like for not starting the video with an ad. Very much appreciated

[@1offaithswarriors]

i love how it takes almost the entire video to get to the point most of the video was about hulk being stupid and unskilled

[@jcwatson4639]

Why do people keep saying that Hulk transformed off screen? He ended Ragnarok in hulk form and specifically said it’s dangerous to switch back and forth again.

[@randybobandy9828]

Exactly. He was hulk as soon as he landed on asgard and beat fenress(how ever you spell it).

[@MrKamaboko]

How does NO ONE ever mention that Thanos shruck fear into Hulk....... THATS the real reason he over powered him and why Hulk never came out for the rest of the movie...

[@MrKamaboko]

@Eli Williams its a big part of it. you cant be angry if youre scared

[@atmskater78]

great vid

[@greasycheese8095]

This whole video ignores that hulk still beat abomination, which is a monster with the combat skill of the guy

[@michaelbell3870]

What everybody seems to forget his He's Got The Power Stone during this counter which gives him a huge amount of strength

[@rethabilemogapi8170]

He didn't use stones to fight hulk

[@enardamon7854]

Bruh , he don't need the stones to beat hulk . He's more skilled than him

[@michaelbell3870]

@@enardamon7854 if you have an unlimited power source and you cannot die no matter what kind of skill you have you will be beat Thanos was not Immortal he was a demagogue which meant he had a finite amount of power a finite lifespan The Incredible Hulk had neither the only one that can beat the Incredible Hulk was the one above all

[@DcMindset]

That was all out bad writing to hype Thanos! True Hulk fans know Hulk gets mad when losing and the angrier he gets the stronger he gets!

[@Damienp3902]

That's boring i don't want Hulk winning evey fight he's in he needs to lose sometimes.

[@slypperyfox]

Gamma radiation is the most destructive power in the universe. It is also supposedly what gave Banner Hulk abilities. I never considered Edward Norton's Hulk as in any way canonical to the Avengers version. Nor the first live action one either. Neither gave Banner/Hulk a graceful pathway to learning to control the character for good. And, oh God, "Professor Hulk"? He gave away half his Hulk strength to retain his smarts even though he had figured out how to bring his consciousness to bear in full Beast Hulk mode!

[@chrisbeebe7596]

Excellent breakdown 👏 👍

[@matthyou561]

Nope….already said thanos kicked his ass without any stones

[@surfergemini1667]

That doesn’t make him stronger than hulk, hulk has always been as strong or even stronger than thanos based on feats, thanos is even scared of hulk himself

[@strenuousspider9525]

Guess you forget that the stone give power without directly being used. Vision is always connected to the mind stone and can use it yet it only glows when he uses it as a weapon. The soul stone was not glowing when it saved his ass from the snap, in what if Ultron was using them as batteries yet they did not always glow. This whole idea that the stones have to glow to be used is pretty much thrown out the window now. If you can't handle the power the stones give you, you will be destroyed by it, that was set up in guardians of the galaxy. If they did not give any kind of boost then just touching one would not kill you.

[@surfergemini1667]

Plus thanos only beat the hulk bcuz of his superior fighting skill, if you are as strong as hulk with some centuries of fighting experience, you should take out a monster that’s not that highly intelligent and skilled with ease, so if thanos had the same mindset as hulk with no skill nor intelligence, hulk would win all the way

[@ultimamage3]

@@surfergemini1667 McFeely: "Here you see the early establishment of just how fearsome Thanos is even without, he’s got one stone here and I don’t think he’s even using it." Joe Russo: "He’s not using [the Power Stone]. This is to show that Thanos, the Genghis Khan of the Marvel Universe, he’s unbeatable in a 1-on-1 battle. He’s conquered thousands of worlds. He’s a much more polished fighter than the Hulk, and Thor, and Loki." The move Thanos pulls 5-minutes into the video is literally him pulling Hulk off of him with raw strength even though he's in a weaker position (getting choked out).

[@pedrohenriquetemistoclessi3273]

No

[@frfrdutch]

Hulk clearly isn’t stronger if he’s the one that got man handled

[@theskyybay420]

Thanos is a polished fighter tho. Hulk just Smash. Maybe with Abominations recent training in the cage, *HE* would probably 4 sure one up HULK now. IMO

[@whatever833]

This is the exact same reason that conversations about Superman versus the Hulk are non starters.

[@thomasrobart5028]

Well in this particular fight, i dont think it mattered how angry the hulk got. For thanos already had the power stone, which he seemingly didnt even use in his fight with the hulk. He just gave him the business with just his hands. He couldve just killed the hulk had he used the power stones abilities. Buuuuuut he had already won the fight so perhaps he didnt see a need to punish him further?

[@nicholasrood9278]

The hulk vs Thanos fight scene was very telling if you know what to look for. The movement and striking by Thanos was deliberate and calculated, while hulks attacks were wild and powerful. Thanos knew how to use hulks own movements against him and struck the openings created by the excessive movement required for power moves. Many of thanos' attacks were counter attacks.

[@Kaisolostudio]

Doesn’t really matter now. Hulk up to Shang chi looks old and withered, especially with his disabled arm in a cast still 😢 they did him dirty.

[@buckweezy1942]

They watered the hulk down so much for these films....very few can match Dr. Banner hand 2 hand💯

[@lowellmartens6135]

This does make Hulk's beating a bit better, but this is post-Sakaar. I think Thanos should have at needed to use the power stone to help.

[@dod297]

Why? Thanos is just stronger than the Hulk. Why is that so hard to comprehend?

[@Sephiroth144]

Two years vs how many decades or centuries of fighting experience; Hulk would still be a novice compared to Thanos.

[@elionetemistocles3123]

​@@dod297 no

[@DalithaMW]

I honestly am disappointed with the MCU hulk - especially since they decided to just, do Professor Hulk. I'd love to see a scene where the savage hulk comes out again - some great catharsis after his humiliation in Infinity War and his lack of physical prowess in endgame A new hulk solo film would do the trick, but I don't know if we're gonna see that again I'd love to see the MCU hulk begin to tap into those upper levels of hulk strength in the comics - give him room to breath and Break Shit. Give me Worldbreaker Hulk...

[@craigwilliams1073]

Yes, Thanos was smart to beat him early on! Worldbreaker Hulk would destroy Thanos!!! I myself would like to see that match with Hulk as Maestro!

[@BC08]

No evidence MCU Hulk can achieve Worldbreaker status, or even if his strength increases in direct proportion to his anger like the comics

[@ssort69]

That would be a great fight. I have to say I'm not a Maestro expert, but I know he overpowered Hulk and even broke his arm and is supposed to be much stronger than base hulk for sure. Maestro's only drawback is he lost the ability to go infinite because he is like Professor Hulk, they are too rational to loose it and just rage out. But Maestro vs Thanos?? I would say Thanos still has him in skill and if we are talking comics, then he also has him in durability. But Maestro should be strong enough to hurt Thanos on all but glancing blows. I'm leaning towards Maestro myself unless your talking comics, as in the comics Thanos would already have four contingency plans at least on how the fight could go bad and have at least have a handful of solutions for each all mapped out before the fight, where he might not win in every case, but he sure as hell wont loose in the long run, as his planning will save him from that. Thanos has stalemated Galactus in the comics, well delayed Galactus enough so Thanos accomplished his goal at least, it wasnt going great for him, but he also wasnt just being pushed around by the big guy himself, and that was base form Thanos, no infinity stone amps. Well either way, it would be a battle for the ages, and a joy to read/watch.

[@MDCVERSE.1]

World breaker hulk lost to base thanod in hulk#16 lol I mean Thanos In comic was way more powerful than hulk in comic thanos has always beaten hulk in comic And if you even wanna see a fight just watch bannerincredible he will show you the fight of wb hulk losing to base thanos and hulk being saved by idk

[@davedrennan7126]

The beating he reseaved at the hand of Thanose is why he didn't want to come out in the beginning of Endgame

[@leewinstead917]

Reminds me of the question boxing fans used to ask who would when in a fight between Mohammed Ali and Mike Tyson

[@BC08]

I don’t see Ali casually peeling Tyson’s hands off of his neck while smiling in his face, showing blatant physical superiority as Thanos did to Hulk though. I’m sure Thanos is Ali and Hulk is Tyson in your analogy

[@leewinstead917]

@@BC08I didn’t say it was an exact anology☺️Ali isn’t as strong as Thanos

[@Sephiroth144]

To answer, let's bring in our guests Buster Douglas and George Foreman...

[@thebigpicture2032]

Thanos took the Hulk’s blows and overpowered him easily. What should have been an epic fight was over in seconds. Hulk need to get angrier after he was overpowered and punched.

[@typeouetco1626]

you knows that there's a limit to hulk anger right? He becomes a breaker of world when that happen. And guess what? thor still destroyed that hulk in the comics (w/out using the super moves that allow him to kill god+ tier). Thanos is physically slightly stronger than thor

[@Ashw1115]

@@typeouetco1626 Yeah but hulk barely even fought there. He jumped in and hit Thanos with one flurry before getting knocked out. I doubt he was at his angriest or near it.

[@anonymousjones6218]

@@Ashw1115 Right - I think the only logical "defense" is that Hulk was caught off-guard and didn't have time to become incensed.

[@DancinJim]

While the explanation is decent, the reality of what happened in the fight scene doesn't add up. It wasn't just hand to hand combat, he was shown to be able to break the Hulk's grip using brute force. He simply owned Hulk. Unrealistic and ruined the persona of Hulk completely for the rest of the films.

[@sneeze8008ies]

Hulk: hold up lemme play Getting Over It

[@peterzee]

Lots of great ideas. Not sure if this got mentioned within all the messages but I felt that they had been setting up Hulk's resentment to Bruce for being called out only when needed to do some "heavy lifting" in the prior movies. I think that Hulk didn't get increasingly mad because he was already annoyed with being the go to brawler and when he had some real competition he just gave up instead of becoming increasingly mad and therefore stronger.

[@scottalderson4708]

I think that is a no-brainer. He is the strongest there is, there is no limit to his power. Thanos does.

[@dominicawesomenessnettles]

I think the reason he really won was he already had an infinity stone. It gave him like +10 strength lol

[@robtheservantof6257]

Well actually it weakens you Physically To Have the Gauntlet on. So thanks was Needed which I am realizing as I'm writing this😂that's wild. But it probably wasn't a massive nerf bc it was only the 1 stone

[@robtheservantof6257]

Yeah but Thanos getting up and pulling Hulk off of him is just pure Strength bro😭like Hulk was pushing down on him and he just Spread his arms. Although he was struggling a bit.

[@commentlurker3874]

i see a video about the world breaker hulk movie if they will do that iwish they finally give is Amadeus Cho and the Grean Scar

[@robertzenniful]

Look if the writers wanted to make Thanos a better fighter and stronger so be it , but not to the level of which he dismantled the Hulk .fighting skills or not, they powered him down to a ridiculous extent

[@mr.canadian155]

Hulk had just come from Sakaar where he had been a gladiator for years and would have had years to perfect his fighting ability. The more Thanos hit the Hulk the angrier and stronger he should of become. This did not happen, this is not the Hulk from the comics. As see when Ironman defeated the Hulk. This MCU version of the Hulk is much weaker and seems to have an upper limit to his power. Hopefully the MCU will find away to turn the Hulk into the character we know and love.

[@tantaluss68]

the part I can't get past is that anytime some hits the hulk hard enough to hurt him there is a major concussive blast so Thanos's punches would have had to be like the lighting of large explosions inside the ship the whole ship should have been being blown apart from the sheer force of the blows

[@howeirdgaming4386]

Well folks also have the remember. MCU Thanos is severely weakened and watered down. Thanos in the comics bodies base Hulk. He even makes the Hulk his pet dog in future what if scenarios. If course this is the MCU but it still reflects it.

[@dankheisenberg]

The King Thanos story is all fucking bullshit though

[@howeirdgaming4386]

Lol it really is.

[@TheYungpromo]

The best version of the serum is actually in falcon and winter soldier you get the strength without the bulk

[@fightthegoodfight52]

I would have love to see Hulk get a rematch-especially with him being in a seriously pissed off mode! Would love to see him and Cull Obsidian go at it too! 😀

[@jasonwatson4576]

You are the first person that I've watched that is actually said what I felt for years I'm 57 years old I remember when the Hulk was Grey. If the Hulk had some training like Steve Rogers he would be unstoppable. But I want to thank you you have really I'm watching you more

[@MikeRuh01]

It's what I thought watching the fight the first time in the theater. Hulk wasn't in as much of a rage when he first started the fight, But Thanos used skill to off set the fight. Hulk usually is a brawler. Thanos was more like a boxer.

[@jimvsmij1973]

Then by that logic wouldnt Wolverine be able to beat Hulk easier and faster than Thanos? He is the best at what he does. I think it wouldn't be that easy for him.

[@hektik2200]

Meh they nerfed Hulk in infinity war just to keep him from solving the problem in the first 15minutes

[@karnage2948]

Also to make guys like captain America, captain marvel and Ironman etc look better

[@lilybalani2973]

Captain marvel wasn't even in that movie,

[@dod297]

Nah Thanos was just stronger and blatantly overpowered the Hulk. No nerfing needed when you have Thanos as the Hulks opponent.

[@hektik2200]

@@dod297 hulk had already transformed due to the events in Asgard and fighting Fenrir and Surtr. He would already have been seething due to walking away from a fight with Surtr. The way infinity war started back on the ship and Hulk off screen after half the population was dead. That’s one hell of a hand wave to say thanos just overpowered hulk. It’s bad writing we let slip because we don’t want to critic then things we enjoy.

[@dod297]

@@hektik2200 how is it bad writing lol? Thanos is just more powerful than the Hulk and that's all their is to it. What do you mean "Hulk had already transformed"? Obviously he was already transformed. Literally everyone knows that. Doesnt change the fact that Thanos still beat him. Okay? He was seething? Thanos still beat him nonetheless so your entire argument is void. Him being angry doesnt erase the entire fight where Thanos overpowered and defeated him. And no it's not a hand wave to just say Thanos overpowered the Hulk. You blatantly see him overpower the Hulk in their fight with no effort. You blatantly see him defeat the Hulk and deposit him on the floor like trash. Why is that do hard to comprehend? Stop whining and ignoring the blatant truth. If you use even a slight sliver of brainpower you would be able to come to that conclusion.

[@tree123169]

I thought the only reason Thanos beat the Hulk was that he had the Power Stone.

[@peeweemaroske8619]

Can you imagine if you gave Mark Ruffalo's Hulk the same anger he had in Age of Ultron combined with the top size of Eric Banna's Hulk? Then have him fight Thanos.

[@superblue-Bc6re]

Lose

[@AsianEyes007]

Whether it’s movies or comics, Thanos is just stronger 😂 Hulk can theoretically become stronger than anyone, but that can only happen if given enough time, and depending on the circumstances, how angry he can get. Hulk simply cannot summon an infinite amount of strength on command. And why is it so hard for people to believe that Thanos, an eternal, who’s lived centuries fighting and learning on hundreds to thousands of worlds, is stronger than the Hulk? I’m not mad that Thanos beat Hulk in Infinity War, but that Hulk didn’t come out after Cull Obsidian and Ebony Maw showed up on Earth to take the Time Stone. A Hulk vs Cull Obsidian was definitely a match we needed to see. Which is what I was hoping would happen in Wakanda since they did show Hulk in Wakanda in the Infinity War trailer.

[@hulkbelowall9532]

base hulk in the comics is still superior to Thanos......but he wins because of abilities

[@JustinDietzler]

Hulk can actually and has to the point where he has destroyed a dimension. If you’ve been keeping up with immortal hulk it is confirmed as well he is an avatar of the one below all’s rage. He would however need the right opponent or need to be very mad or have the time

[@AsianEyes007]

@@JustinDietzler Yeah, I’ve seen a little bit of the Immortal Hulk, and I’ve been hearing from other people that Hulk is getting pretty OP rn in the comics.

[@okamireader5]

Honestly, I knew this from the start. Hulk is deservedly known as "The Strongest One There Is" and many times he lived up to that reputation. However... there is a difference between Strength and Skill Hulk is a berserker when it comes to battle. He fights fueled by rage and passion, and often enough that's all he needs to be strong enough to overcome adversity becuz he rarely ever faces a foe that can give him an actual challenge. But fighting with rage is a dbl edged sword, and as you said, the Hulk isn't exactly smart. He can be cunning and be directed towards specific enemies and goals, but he doesn't think about how to defeat an enemy, only smashing them Thanos however is a warrior. A general. A conqueror! He has spent centuries conquering and slaughtering planets and civilizations in his obsession with "correcting" the universe, thus he has faced a countless variety of foes and enemies, giving him centuries of experience to hone his skills and his mind with the expressed purpose of achieving victory. As a Titan, Thanos is physically superior to many other sentient beings... but that's not to say he is automatically stronger than the Hulk. As you said, the Hulk draws his strength from rage, not to mention it can take time for him to boil up enough anger to boost his incredible strength further, and he had just transformed right before tackling Thanos. He took the titan by surprise but once Thanos got his second wind or whatever he surprised Hulk with his own strength but displayed his real might lay in his skills, his warrior prowess, and his tactical mind, allowing Thanos to easily outmatch the Hulk, making Jade Jaws look like an amateur getting owned by a master In conclusion, Thanos is not PHYSICALLY stronger than the Hulk; he's just a better fighter

[@detricksmith5224]

How come no one ever mentions that Thanos had the Power Stone when he fought the Hulk?

[@yourdailydoseofnotsointell7116]

It wasn’t glowing when he had it which would mean he wasn’t using it

[@gskblackty]

The power stone alone had already enhanced thanos strength making him one of the most powerful being in the universe.

[@ImAlanSinclair]

thanos removed hulk's hands and held them like he was a child. He is stronger in the mcu

[@summertyme5748]

It’s more that he’s a better fighter. He’s a Thousand year old Eternal. He has more experience than any Avenger except Thor. The reality that Hulk smashing was not enough and that Banner’s intellect was not enough is what led to Professor Hulk. Made sense in the context of the story - and of course - Hulk Smash kids don’t like it. They like the Avengers Cartoon where Hulk “punches” Galactus.

[@xx_ironman77_xx1]

@@summertyme5748 well yes ur right Thanos is like abomination strong cuz in the Shang chi movie abomination destroyed the same shield that Thanos destroyed when he Battled Doctor Strange on Titan.and Thanos is a way more skilled fighter then hulk The only person that Could out class him in skill was worthy captain America and captain America was the best fighter in the mcu unit he retired . My pont being what happens when A individual who is barely a boxer in skill battles an black belt martial artist ?? The professional martial artist would be able to counter attack and block The barely boxers hits just because of the black belt martial artist greater skill and experience samething here hulk is The beginner boxer and Thanos is the master black belt martial artist ya know what happened 👀

[@briancamilli8873]

Lets just say what it is that the Russo's didn't..."shitty writing"

[@pedrohenriquetemistoclessi3273]

No

[@blazegamer1007]

Edward Norton's Hulk was the best live action Hulk PERIOD.

[@joel6689]

True but it doesn't make it a great movie though.

[@blazegamer1007]

@@joel6689 oh it does for the hulk it does

[@samuelward1188]

Hulk didn't fight thanos again because he's tired of banner but if hulk really wanted to he would beat thanos all it takes is for him to do what thor didn't do in infinity war but what he did in endgame

[@karnage2948]

Hulk got bodied by thanos, the directors are waffling

[@abdulazeez-yq1ix]

Did u not see the video? Strength isnt the only thing that matters in a fight it’s a factor yes but thanos just has way more skill and is more effective with each strike while hulk is trying to just use his strength to beat him the hulk is probably stronger but not by a lot

[@karnage2948]

@@abdulazeez-yq1ix yes I did watch the video hulks anger can name him stronger but in this instance he isn’t, thanos didn’t just out skill him he literally let hulk have his fun then bodied him

[@abdulazeez-yq1ix]

@@karnage2948 wht exactly do u mean by bodied I mean thanks didn’t really do much aside from dodging his attacks and punching in pressures points and blocking some attacks.plus he is wearing armor probably more durable than vibranium same as his sword

[@karnage2948]

@@abdulazeez-yq1ix apart from the first strike on hulks neck what other pressure points did thanos hit? the guy removed hulks hands from his neck with nothing but sheer force, did u not see the look of hulks face? The director’s are just doing damage control because realistically hulks been looking weak

[@abdulazeez-yq1ix]

@@karnage2948 the same thing could be said for cap holding thanos hand for a moment.u thing that’s possible? he was holding it back with sheer force .

[@allnamesaretakenful]

I like that the Hulk is stronger than Thanos, but that Thanos outclasses the Hulk in every other way. I'm glad they didn't make Thanos like Superman. Thanos is insanely powerful, but can still be killed by the Scarlet Witch or Stormbreaker.

[@demegofficial5372]

Thanos wouldnt have come close to doing that to world war hulk, especially world breaker hulk lol it oould just be like somone punching an imovable object

[@mattk3654]

You said Hulk fought Thanos pretty soon after his transformation. This is incorrect. Hulk had been green for quite a while, ever since Banner jumped out of Jeff Goldblum's ship onto the rainbow bridge to fight Fenris wolf.

[@jamyleach8292]

Hulk is undoubtedly far more durable and physically stronger. He didn't get the chance to get really pissed. If he had, then infinity war would've been a short film

[@MDCVERSE.1]

Still Its not About That Its about the skill Yh Hulk Would get very angry But Thanos would Still be able to counter Them Yh Thanos Has a higher durability than thor who took 10 hits on the face by an angry hulk so thanos would be able to take multiple hits by a raged Hulk On the face with also armor On So no big difference And also Thanos Has the intellect to figure Something Out And Its like about Real life Even if Theres A strong Guy but doesnt know how to fight Vs A Guy who is same Weight just less strength But Is more clever And skilled fighter obviously Hes Winning Snd even If the other Guy gets more Angry It will actually be easier Thats why they say dont get angry stay calm Because you will Just lose your mobility So Thanod Could Still Win In A fight against A Raged Hulk Or could lose to hulk It could go either way

[@jamyleach8292]

@@MDCVERSE.1 I get that, in my line of work I've seen skilled people get beat down by someone in a drug enduced blind rage. I've also seen mass monsters get rolled by someone half their size. But we're talking comics, I'm saying a fully endangered hulk can't be stopped because the one he's fighting knows how to bob and weave. We have yet to see a fully enraged hulk in the MCU.

[@kobelipsey0616]

They already said they were the same strength but now they’re saying this, these directors are making it up as they go

[@biohazard3554]

I was really expecting Hulk to go worldbreaker when he learns of Natashas death or seeing tony die... the rematch we will never get.

[@samthewham6671]

Hulk isnt supposed to be stupid, hes a clever savage that uses his sorroundings against adversaries

[@crimeegg4917]

I think I know why Hulk didn't want to come out when he lost it's because after he realized that Bruce was only using him as a way to win fights right after Bruce was saying he didn't want to turn back into Hulk Hulk realize he was just being used Bruce went from not wanting to turn back in the Hulk and hating it to wanting him to turn back it just kind of pissed him off and he realized he wasn't treated like a person so he decided to see how banner can do on his own

[@PovertyEntertainmentOfficial]

Hulk simply put has BLIND Rage.

[@korymanuel4037]

If Hulk would have already been angry and pissed than Thanos will never withstand a chance

[@jackbruno953]

You go on to say how Blonksy was able to out maneuver Hulk. Yet Hulk was able to beat him as Abomination while he had serum running through him (a serum that suppresses the Hulk) He was nerfed in infinity war, not too mention Hulk was put through far worse then what Thanos gave him

[@drillfox]

It could be because he was injured from getting bit by Helas wolf in Thor ragnorok cause this was right after that

[@thaddelicious852]

Baseline Hulk being weaker than a lot of Marvel’s heavy hitters was a concept I wasn’t very familiar with until recently. The spectrum of his power in relation to his rage is so unfathomably large. He’s always been referred to as a force of nature, but when The One Above All tells him that he’s an antithetical aspect to himself, it really proves the point.

[@ricogoldstar]

Not to mention the fact that Thanos had his Armour on that utilizes both superior tech and 'magic' as well as a little thing called the power stone..let's see how well he does without his toys.

[@RockandStoneVForKarl]

Seems like after endgame the writers and directors of the mcu have only wanted to make thanos less cool and badass. What if dumped on him, and now statements like this Just let him rest as the most badass villain the mcu has had and probably will ever have.

[@acefrot7353]

When a immovable force meets an unstoppable object

[@micahclark4021]

U can be strong but everyone has a pressure point it is still human after all

[@otiswinn3215]

I completely agree with you here. The 60's & 70's hulk was absolutely, supremely, undeniedbly, unstoppable. Todays hulk is only as strong in movies, and comics for just plot convenience. That's it. they don't even stick to character stats anymore.

[@Noslime]

Has anyone ever dig into Why pepper Potts gasped when Tony seemed to Address his daughter in the hologram? It’s almost like she knew something that we never got to find out

[@blahblah6497]

Well the Hulk doesn't fight, not in the sense of having any real martial skills. The Hulk Smashes. And Banner doesn't know how to fight really at all. That is why, IMO, Professor Hulk was a major step down.