Endgame Tier List Update: Season 25 Exotic Weapons

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Aegis

Aegis

Күн бұрын

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@schlangpoofa
@schlangpoofa Күн бұрын
ok but why isn't Borealis in the now missing S tier? Completely carried me through the heroic patrol I did on Europa last night
@hvvnter
@hvvnter Күн бұрын
many are saying this
@charliejones5953
@charliejones5953 Күн бұрын
Damn straight
@Kexis_Kell_of_Rhythm
@Kexis_Kell_of_Rhythm Күн бұрын
Agreeable. Carries patrols every time
@beeman4266
@beeman4266 Күн бұрын
This Borealis domination must end. It's meta defining.
@lolosh99
@lolosh99 Күн бұрын
It’s been broken for too long bungie is ruining the sandbox harder than auto load and anarchy metas
@paul2725
@paul2725 Күн бұрын
reporting all players that are using an exotic b tier or below
@GreatKhalCaleb
@GreatKhalCaleb Күн бұрын
Based and sigma pilled
@Zurrke
@Zurrke Күн бұрын
Too lenient. True alpha vets report anyone using less than S
@kscanfly
@kscanfly Күн бұрын
Do not forget blocking them
@TheMax107
@TheMax107 Күн бұрын
Sooo true
@PYRESATVARANASI
@PYRESATVARANASI 14 сағат бұрын
𝚈𝚎𝚜 ❤
@silentib1534
@silentib1534 Күн бұрын
Glad to see Parasite on top. It really feels great on already strong ability builds to just look at a boss and say "I want you off my screen right now" and then it actually works
@imjlu
@imjlu Күн бұрын
My shilling for Necrochasm in last season's comment section paid off 🥳
@Zurrke
@Zurrke Күн бұрын
Game recognize game
@denny8422
@denny8422 17 сағат бұрын
my 🐐
@briskuet
@briskuet Күн бұрын
parasite so goated i can't believe it doesnt have a catalyst yet
@FK74396
@FK74396 Күн бұрын
What could a catalyst be aside from maybe auto-loading holster?
@Zurrke
@Zurrke Күн бұрын
​@FK74396 impulse amplifier think about it
@thisone98
@thisone98 Күн бұрын
​@@FK74396 recombination
@thisone98
@thisone98 Күн бұрын
​@@FK74396 recombination
@nu2gilroyy
@nu2gilroyy Күн бұрын
@@FK74396Wolfpack rounds
@pitmaster226
@pitmaster226 Күн бұрын
7:05 I don’t know what makes Khvostov “commital”, the ricochets are there when you’re using it, there’s no real penalty for swapping, the only requirement is to pick up orbs. I think the gun just feels good to shoot so it feels weird to swap off of it, there’s nothing holding you back but the monkey brain that wants to hear the ricochet noise more.
@SavvyMon4
@SavvyMon4 Күн бұрын
Khvostov with those auto rifle artifact perks last season gave me a chubby ngl
@SlyRocko
@SlyRocko Күн бұрын
Feels weird to call it committal when the example he gave is literally the most committal primary in the game 💀 Khvostov is powerful not only because of the damage and AoE, but also how easy it is to utilise. Orbs of power generate everywhere, the activated exotic perk stays and refreshes between weapon swaps, and the weapon has Shoot to Loot to get both orbs and ammo bricks from a distance
@johnwayne7293
@johnwayne7293 23 сағат бұрын
I mean if you’re going to use khovostov to ad clear optimally, you do want to shoot to loot the orbs and continuously fire at the ads to ensure the maximum amount of AOE. Otherwise why don’t you just swap to a healclip /incandescent wave frame gl, since it’s got better subclass synergy and sustainability? I love the atheistic and nostalgic of Khovostov, that’s why I have over 20000 kills on it, but I do agree with him about the “commitment”
@friendlyelites
@friendlyelites 22 сағат бұрын
Shoot to loot is also a genuinely goated perk and always has been and has been more relevant in every day 1 raid than a damage perk on a primary so that alone makes it more viable as an exotic primary than almost every other choice in the game except for Riskrunner which is actually a committal exotic
@pitmaster226
@pitmaster226 20 сағат бұрын
@@johnwayne7293 I don't think high commitment is when the good is good at AOE while you fire it. I don't think sunshot is high commitment because it only does AOE while you fire it. High commitment is Ex Diris opting you into mothkeeper wraps, Tarrabah punishing you for stowing it, or revision zero requiring you to build stacks slowly for champ killing.
@oweeb5909
@oweeb5909 Күн бұрын
These are my favourite videos to watch while squeezing out logs
@connorfleming9035
@connorfleming9035 Күн бұрын
Ex Diris at F tier is wild
@kalebdavis7080
@kalebdavis7080 11 сағат бұрын
I think even though it got buffed, it's still bugged. It was meant to get an explosion damage buff and an impact buff, but never got the impact buff, so it's still not doing the damage it should.
@TheAegisRelic
@TheAegisRelic 4 сағат бұрын
In optimal endgame play it doesn't really have a home sadly (outside of speedrunning)
@cloudkvng6520
@cloudkvng6520 Күн бұрын
Any weapon that does ignition damage ie. Dragons breath is bugged. All ignition game wide are bugged. Dragons breath got shafted
@TheAegisRelic
@TheAegisRelic 4 сағат бұрын
Aware, damage values for DBreath are from last season
@Amparii
@Amparii Күн бұрын
thanks for all the recent videos :)
@WGG-01
@WGG-01 Күн бұрын
I am glad parasite is ranked as the best exotic heavy weapon let alone in the A tier. It by far my favorite exotic and such a weird fun extremely well designed weapon that like isn't gamebreaking but makes you feel like you're cheating sometimes which I feel is what an exotic should ideally shoot for.
@Sparsedood
@Sparsedood Күн бұрын
We appreciate all your hard work, brother!
@micksmith1812
@micksmith1812 5 сағат бұрын
Nice list, helped me with some build ideas. Agree with you about dropping S tier for Exotics, this season feels like its all about BnS Heavy GLs
@silentib1534
@silentib1534 Күн бұрын
I think the only thing worth looking into that you might have missed is Vexcalibur. While it didn't get buffed directly, void overshield's DR did, and considering it guarantees full uptime on that damage resistance while blocking its even more tanky than it was previously. It's now more comparable to strongholds in Grandmasters but requires less build dedication for a functionally similar purpose.
@Phil-en8dz
@Phil-en8dz Күн бұрын
just do stronghold sword
@atheon-
@atheon- Күн бұрын
​@@Phil-en8dz, yeah, lets use stronghold on warlock
@TheAegisRelic
@TheAegisRelic 4 сағат бұрын
Honestly I didn't think about Vexcalibur when looking at the seasonal changes to Void Overshield, however I don't think that it necessarily changes the placement of the exotic since it's still a glaive
@never3nder
@never3nder 17 сағат бұрын
It's funny how almost literally everything that was meta for Witness at the start of the expansion has been pretty significantly nerfed by now
@beeman4266
@beeman4266 Күн бұрын
I've pretty much permanently been on Choir of One + Lost signal/liturgy this season. Choir of One is still stupidly good, can't imagine how it was last season before the nerfs, I didn't use it much then.
@Nightfiend
@Nightfiend Күн бұрын
What catalyst do you run with it?
@SavvyMon4
@SavvyMon4 Күн бұрын
@@NightfiendI normally don’t like destabilizing rounds but it def makes the add clear better. And the volatile explosions if they kill any enemy give prismatic warlock devour
@warlockholmes
@warlockholmes Күн бұрын
​@@SavvyMon4I use destabilizing for the ammo economy, just so it actually does well at getting the kills
@beeman4266
@beeman4266 2 сағат бұрын
@Nightfiend I've been using destabilizing rounds. Onslaught is great too but it kinda hurts the ammo economy if you're running double special. One of the coolest and best feeling guns they've ever made imo. Right up there with graviton lance. Never thought they'd add a special ammo auto rifle but I'm glad they did. We need more like it in archetypes that are typically primary ammo.
@kalebdavis7080
@kalebdavis7080 12 сағат бұрын
Did you factor in the "bug" currently where repeated ignitions do compoundingly less damage for DB in your calculations? DB was great during Season of the Wish, then once they released VH it feels like DB got taken out back behind the shed.
@TheAegisRelic
@TheAegisRelic 5 сағат бұрын
No it's old pre-bug numbers
@gen8901
@gen8901 16 сағат бұрын
I personally use Ice Breaker every day, as an ammo box. I refill my Choir of One/Aberrant Action from 0% to 100% in about 20-30s with Sunbracers/Fisto Roboto Hunter. It’s doing a really good job at being a support Exotic, as intended(fr fr)
@TheAegisRelic
@TheAegisRelic 4 сағат бұрын
This is actually a use case I considered when I was making the list, if it isn't patched I'll probably move Ice Breaker a bit higher, it's definitely the weapon with the most volatility in my placements right now
@x9x9x9x9x9
@x9x9x9x9x9 Күн бұрын
Kinda surprised tractor got lowered. Sure we can weaken in other ways but not to 30% or whatever. I think alethonym is B tier but I just love that gun.
@lazykb
@lazykb Күн бұрын
If 15% weaken is already free then tractor is realistically 15% better than no tractor, vs previously being 30% better than no tractor
@4_xenon672
@4_xenon672 Күн бұрын
@@lazykbit’s also still in the highest tier
@beeman4266
@beeman4266 Күн бұрын
Alethonym might have some use in raids and dungeons, having what is essentially another witherhoard with a free ammo perk is nice. The dot damage is good and works well with bait and switch weapons. Shame there's no auto loading for it though.
@devonstrickland5640
@devonstrickland5640 Күн бұрын
the dps that is lost from a single tractor user in less than 6 man content is too much to justify its use
@MakabeMatsuri
@MakabeMatsuri 21 сағат бұрын
@@devonstrickland5640 on close range combat with trench barrel shotguns or shotgun swap Tractor guy can still do much dmg On SE 2nd encounter trench barrel song of flame tractor warlock shine even on master version of the raid
@sahande.2557
@sahande.2557 Күн бұрын
I think Whisper being Optimal for day1s is a little bit of a stretch. Sure it has good dps and total damage, but you get almost 0 mobility with it. These days you basically have to move during day1 damage phases, but I do think it's viable if the team can pull it off
@thetoolie5917
@thetoolie5917 Күн бұрын
ppl were sitting stil inside a well for atraks lol and witness you could get 3 shots off at least b4 each attack
@fleefie
@fleefie 23 сағат бұрын
The witness is trivial to dodge while hardscoping tbh, and on solar warlock heat rises makes it completely free
@MakabeMatsuri
@MakabeMatsuri 21 сағат бұрын
@@thetoolie5917You never need to scope out when doing witness dmg the floor wipe attack can be dodged with one jump
@thetoolie5917
@thetoolie5917 19 сағат бұрын
@@MakabeMatsuri ight
@TheAegisRelic
@TheAegisRelic 4 сағат бұрын
People used it with great success on Puppeteer contest
@ahawkone8850
@ahawkone8850 9 сағат бұрын
Thanks as always! And yea I think you're right that there isn't really an S tier exotic that we're "always" using right now. I'm curious how much of that is because of the overwhelming domination of HGLs right now? I am expecting that either Episode: Heresy or the Apollo expansion will come with a hefty nerf to HGLs...
@SlimeyZockt
@SlimeyZockt Күн бұрын
I am waiting for the Z tier at this point But for real, I think introducing a new tier to get rid of some noise in the upper tiers is really smart. And W S-Tier take
@Igneous_Hammer
@Igneous_Hammer 2 сағат бұрын
Aegis is your favorite Destiny Content KZbinr's favorite Destiny Content KZbinr
@AhkiDraco
@AhkiDraco Күн бұрын
Looking forward to the builds getting redone. Thank you for your work, Aegis.
@richardcarson3596
@richardcarson3596 Күн бұрын
bring back the old debuff percentages for tractor cannon, bungie.
@atsukana1704
@atsukana1704 9 сағат бұрын
Hey aegis, I have been doing some napkin math and it seems like with horseman impetus chill, bold endings might be better than warden’s law due to surge matching and having arc surge available for horseman. This is only even better if you can proc collective action which seems to be the best damage perk for it since getting a random elemental pickup isn’t all that difficult. Bold endings is terrible in neutral but simply having a loadout with alethonym fixes both ad clear and allows you more total damage by making ammo.
@TheAegisRelic
@TheAegisRelic 5 сағат бұрын
I can try it out
@jamiep317
@jamiep317 22 сағат бұрын
So with regards to Ice Breaker, I think the best place for it is GM's, where you just... *get* ammo for free by doing the things you already wanna do in them: kill enemies. It's very handy for any GM where you have a bunch of enemies up ahead, because one headshot just... pops them all. And if you can get Radiant, on demand, it RUINS barrier champions.
@lucasvalbuena
@lucasvalbuena Күн бұрын
thanks for all your efforts, these is very healthy for the community as a hole, well done, Guardian.
@manuelwalz6416
@manuelwalz6416 Күн бұрын
Awesome video again ❤ A Build Video would be awesome
@Pumperknuckle
@Pumperknuckle Күн бұрын
Parasite could be S imo. What else gives you super level burst damage every 20s. Crucially, it's a weapon that also gets better as the content gets harder. The more you have to kill, the more worms hunger stacks. It's versatile and competitive in almost every encounter. If you're not on Eager Edge, Parasite will be competitive every time. And the only build craft required is 1 holster mod. And the reserves holy. You can insta-kill every major and still bring competitive boss DMG for low effort for every phase. AND it's a swap weapon with no commitment needed.
@Neuloo
@Neuloo 22 сағат бұрын
even tho its railing the entire rest of the game, still, its DPS potential can mostly be described as just "decent", and if you seriously wanted to have some optimal damage you'd go for HGLs
@Pumperknuckle
@Pumperknuckle 19 сағат бұрын
@Neuloo fair. But 5 mil imo is more than just decent Source: Chicken DPS vids. It's kinda only suboptimal in speeds right? But it still sees some use there on low HP bosses
@pencilswordfish
@pencilswordfish 17 сағат бұрын
I like the idea of S Tier just being reserved for meta-warping Exotics, and perfectly understandabled that there's nothing there right now, for better or worse. Do we want an exotic like Gally just completely taking over everything? Dunno.
@adam5599
@adam5599 17 сағат бұрын
Hi Aegis, what are your thoughts on using Ticcu's for DPS?
@TheAegisRelic
@TheAegisRelic 4 сағат бұрын
Screaming cat emoji
@MrNooB-kb9gb
@MrNooB-kb9gb 15 сағат бұрын
Since anti barrier buff to deterministic chaos and volatile buff to fighting lion when paired with controlled demolition aspect on void titan ......gives a lethal out come. Similarly Salvation grip for Stasis icefall titan is really good Smgs with peacekeeper and strand titan are beyond good now
@goodvibesrav
@goodvibesrav Күн бұрын
buried bloodline in A is extremely real. i've loved that thing since i got my hands on it for basically whatever content i'm playing that isn't a gm or a dps encounter
@MakabeMatsuri
@MakabeMatsuri Күн бұрын
I also bring buried bloodline to master dungeons and raids I love it
@pauldavid2407
@pauldavid2407 Күн бұрын
Awesome list! I would love a build video with a few common speedrun builds
@TheAegisRelic
@TheAegisRelic 4 сағат бұрын
Might do it later :P
@NingenSlayerZamasu
@NingenSlayerZamasu Сағат бұрын
I’m the biggest revision zero glazer and yeah kinda does need to be in F tier. It got outclassed by Eriana’s Vow since it got a giga buff last episode. Not saying it’s bad just kinda sucks knowing a semi niche exotic got outclassed again by the better anti barrier options.
@HowHistory
@HowHistory 27 минут бұрын
I agree with everything except bad juju. It is an easier to use more potent necrochasm with built in super regen. Definitely deserving to be the the same tier as necrochasm at least.
@Nhyha2002
@Nhyha2002 13 сағат бұрын
Sucks how Ghorn went from being SSSS in D1 to now not even being a DPS option.
@talentrippin3535
@talentrippin3535 Күн бұрын
I think you're underrating ice breaker a bit. having an unlimited ammo sniper in GM's or Master level content in general is a big deal imo. once the ignitions gets fixed it'll get even better
@TheAegisRelic
@TheAegisRelic 4 сағат бұрын
I might be, but I want to give it more time to settle/test before I rate it any higher
@WakingDreams34
@WakingDreams34 8 сағат бұрын
seeing this after revision 0 has been carrying me through gm lightblade😭
@TheMax107
@TheMax107 Күн бұрын
I really agree with you alot of the exotics feel good but not s tier and its just sad we need more broken exotic weapons nothing really feels broken this season
@gungfry7728
@gungfry7728 Күн бұрын
Kinda wish they'd add tractor's weaken to Heartshadow and then make it so tractor has it's old weaken effect for improved void damage, could shake up that heavy slot weakening a little.
@vltiger-1127
@vltiger-1127 23 сағат бұрын
Problem with that would be powercreep, because then things like deterministic chaos would be even MORE useless and would need it to be buffed desperately. Especially since heartshadow has a lot more damage than tractor
@gungfry7728
@gungfry7728 23 сағат бұрын
@ I was just thinking of it as pushing heartshadow into a cooler niche while also keeping tractor superior for people who want to stack void weapons for that 50% debuff it used to have. Deterministic is a lost cause though genuinely needs a glow up to make it comparable to thunderlord. Maybe enhances volatile and gets multiple void perks like repulsor and destabilizing?
@vltiger-1127
@vltiger-1127 3 сағат бұрын
​@@gungfry7728enhancing volatile would be pretty cool. But yeah, I would heartshadow got a little more love, it is a very cool exotic
@alexanderramirez9428
@alexanderramirez9428 3 сағат бұрын
Crazy he put icebreaker in D. S+ exotic. By it self its probably D but if you build into it and can hit your sniper shots it’s amazing.
@TheAegisRelic
@TheAegisRelic 3 сағат бұрын
It's there for now until I can see it flourish a bit more, and that's even a little generous given what's in E
@alexanderramirez9428
@alexanderramirez9428 3 сағат бұрын
I’ve been using it in GMs with prismatic Hunter(HIMO and Cent) the duskfield grenade and smoke with the ability spam build it deletes champions and you get back like 4-5 shots per champion kills so it’s like infinite ammo. It does take some skill to use but it’s my go to exotic for gms rn. Smoke makes it go through barriers and shattering with ignition for unstops.
@Theosyion
@Theosyion 14 сағат бұрын
Idgaf choir of one is the best exotic in the game and it will be glued onto my arm for all content until they gut it like a fish
@4CETH4N
@4CETH4N Күн бұрын
RIP my boy still hunt :(
@charliejones5953
@charliejones5953 Күн бұрын
Me personally, darci is the best wepaon in the game.
@OnlyOneMe1
@OnlyOneMe1 4 сағат бұрын
No S Tier also comes from extremely strong Legendarys.
@bjcooper4365
@bjcooper4365 23 сағат бұрын
Are you going to post a video about DPS rotations? I got the envious bait GL and I’m waiting for the horseman impetus inhibitor comparison
@SpiderReviver
@SpiderReviver 20 сағат бұрын
He's in trials jail for the new rocket and he doesn't have new dungeon gl either. I think he has a few friends with the rolls though, so it shouldn't be a big deal.
@sc5the
@sc5the 21 сағат бұрын
conditional is prob the coolest exotic in both games and for some reason it needs buffs
@sylokthedefiled7650
@sylokthedefiled7650 Күн бұрын
Aggressive frame fusion guy here. I think you forgot to put Coriolis force in the S tier of this list. Personally, I think revision zero is a tier or so higher. Not because it itself is really strong, but because it enables double special while still having a primary. Though I think we tend to value weapons for different reasons. I focus on if a weapon enables a unique gameplay loop that's reasonably powerful rather than how meta it is for my personal exotic tier list.
@arjunbaweja7755
@arjunbaweja7755 Күн бұрын
Aegis you are throwing at edge of conc
@fishspoons
@fishspoons Күн бұрын
I'd love a build tier list!
@Galaxy40k
@Galaxy40k Күн бұрын
I was surprised to hear you say that theres a big exotic heavy presence in the endgame meta right now. Pretty much everyone I see is still using a GL. But then again I'm also far from an elite player, LMAO. Is it mostly just Parasite and Levi's?
@Pumperknuckle
@Pumperknuckle Күн бұрын
Parasite, wardcliff, and Overture are allmeta in new dungeon. Probably what he's referring to
@Truds
@Truds Күн бұрын
C tier or bust
@zellegoodwin9046
@zellegoodwin9046 Күн бұрын
Can't wait to see where icebreaker is. I've put nearly 4k kills on it since I got it on day1. Such a fun weapon. It's staying glued to each stasis build I make going forward.
@ferowaw
@ferowaw Күн бұрын
Hopefully F tier
@MangoMan1280
@MangoMan1280 Күн бұрын
@@ferowawsay you ain’t got it without saying you ain’t got it
@ferowaw
@ferowaw Күн бұрын
@@MangoMan1280 i do and it's trash
@thundercookie1741
@thundercookie1741 Күн бұрын
Destiny players when a weapon doesn't allow them to use it as a clutch to one shot everything: "Trash"
@ferowaw
@ferowaw Күн бұрын
@ Destiny players when an exotic does fuck all but it was a Destiny 1 exotic:
@IceColdPistol
@IceColdPistol Күн бұрын
Just out of curiosity and completely opinion based, do you prefer metas that have no exotic weapons in S tier? Or do you think its more exciting, fun, etc. to have an exotic so good people build their entire strategies around them?
@EggyWeggyIII
@EggyWeggyIII Күн бұрын
Personally, I find seasons where nothing stands out too much far more enjoyable. More builds tend to be viable and you end up getting a lot more variety in your playstyle. What people miss in times like these is that you can still build entire strategies around an exotic if you want but the key is that you have options. Otherwise I’m just gonna be stuck on whatever S tier option exists for 4 months.
@donutmerchant8393
@donutmerchant8393 23 сағат бұрын
Honestly no S tiers is nice. No S tier means no weapon is truly dominant and the meta isn't super narrow. Instead of the usual use x or do jack shit metas we have a proper varied meta where there's no one right answer right now. That's better for the health of the game in my opinion. S tiers just don't play all that interestingly after the first 10 times.
@TheAegisRelic
@TheAegisRelic 3 сағат бұрын
I don't really mind either way to be honest
@jlrebor2626
@jlrebor2626 13 сағат бұрын
parasite rlly feels amazing on vesper and its great in other content, never used it bfr but i like it a lot now that being said, as much as it pains me, it makes me so happy for icebreaker to be in D, ppl praising on this gun when if you do the same stuff with it and a legendary sniper and the legendary has more uptime is wild, someone needs to tell bungo that 1 bullet every 2 kills has less uptime than a single red bar with a chance to give you 14~ no scavenger or anything, not taking into account discord or fttc btw, this is without running stasis, but for me running stasis is a nerf by itself, so now i got a double nerf by icebreaker and another one by stasis, the new archetype helps but also does damage, for me it feels bad more than good, feels great for tose oneshots, but when it doesnt..... and if it does also hurts the gun bcs then it doesnt count for the ammo generation, a normal 90rpm most of the time doesnt kill in one shot, so i change to a primary and finish with it, a play style that would greatly help icebreaker.....
@bliss5297
@bliss5297 Күн бұрын
what would be considered the best heavy void weapon to pair with choir of one? chill inhibitor, edge transit, faith-keeper or tomorrow's answer? (faith keeper is the only heavy with explosive light on this list, everything else has bait and switch) (chill inhibitor and tomorrow's answer have envious arsenal, the other two have auto loading as preferable for sustain damage)
@LumiNexus
@LumiNexus Күн бұрын
Chill inhibitor is stasis but for the other 3 it depends what you're doing. Faith keeper does less damage per rocket being a precision frame but holds more reserves so it's nice for general gameplay.
@Based_Shogun
@Based_Shogun Күн бұрын
ET has the best perks on the best archetype and has OP artifact synergy IMHO.
@SavvyMon4
@SavvyMon4 Күн бұрын
@@Based_Shogunedge transit isn’t the best archetype anymore though
@MakabeMatsuri
@MakabeMatsuri Күн бұрын
The new void rapid gl from the event is actually good
@faridronin
@faridronin 20 сағат бұрын
Rapid fire void GL Acosmic has BnS with clown cartridge or air trigger
@luk4aaaa
@luk4aaaa Күн бұрын
btw my second drop in trials was a non-adept tomorrow's answer with Envious Arsenal and Bait and Switch. no impact casing, but it got smart drift and implosion rounds.
@jonathancotter7429
@jonathancotter7429 Күн бұрын
I got one with envious assasin/ bipod. so far I could get 5 bipod rockets in the chamber on it. Haven't got 6 yet, haven't tried tbh
@xanthacanthus
@xanthacanthus 23 сағат бұрын
man... I dont play D2 anymore and I use these videos to kind of judge if I believe the meta is healthy (by my metrics) and the fact that exotics are no longer build-defining is just sad. I will probably never return to D2 given the direction this is going.
@luk4aaaa
@luk4aaaa Күн бұрын
goodbye witherhoard, I'll miss you and the 15k kills I got with you
@DomiBlueShellz
@DomiBlueShellz 19 сағат бұрын
The only place where, in my humble opinion, merciless is still better than choir, and that is both ir yut and starting at duo nez
@TheAegisRelic
@TheAegisRelic 4 сағат бұрын
Yeah in lowmans it still has a small home :3
@arunjako
@arunjako 23 сағат бұрын
Red Death Reformed - No splash damage and unnecessary sustain ---> F tier But Buried Bloodline which also has no splash damage and unnecessary sustain is A tier? And Red death doesnt need ammo while BB needs special ammo? Not saying Red death needs to be A tier but for how close these 2 are, having 4 whole tiers between them doesnt seem right
@santiagojohnson5877
@santiagojohnson5877 21 сағат бұрын
Buried Bloodline does good dmg to beefier targets, gives health back on hits, gives better healing (devour) and devour gives grenade energy, when u have devour u weaken targets, its way better buddy
@MakabeMatsuri
@MakabeMatsuri 21 сағат бұрын
Just run Red death on master content You will see why ppl choose burried bloodline
@cheezyguy7119
@cheezyguy7119 23 сағат бұрын
You think it's a good thing that there are no s/s+ or meta definig exotics in this sandbox?
@TheAegisRelic
@TheAegisRelic 4 сағат бұрын
I think it's fine, not too opinionated about it
@cheezyguy7119
@cheezyguy7119 3 сағат бұрын
👌
@agent2596
@agent2596 Күн бұрын
are you still going to do the 1 build for every armor exotic video?
@TheAegisRelic
@TheAegisRelic 4 сағат бұрын
Yeah but very delayed
@CIII__
@CIII__ Күн бұрын
LETS GO BABY
@warlockholmes
@warlockholmes Күн бұрын
If weaken is free now, bungie should bump tractor up to 50%.
@semicompetent6581
@semicompetent6581 23 сағат бұрын
Normal void weaken through abilities and perks is only a 15% damage increase. Tractor Cannon and Tether are the only two sources of weaken that increase damage by 30% instead.
@gonnsolo8506
@gonnsolo8506 Күн бұрын
Necrochasm should be S++++ tier sorry you're wrong.
@db1872
@db1872 Күн бұрын
Only one optimal GM option, yeesh
@drayy8
@drayy8 Күн бұрын
Ice Breaker is definitely NOT D tier. With a good stasis selection, this thing turns into an add clear monster. Constant shatter and ignitions. It also serves as a viable swap weapon for damage rotation due to free ammo just for getting ad kills (and assists).
@thundercookie1741
@thundercookie1741 Күн бұрын
Remember that this is a list made for the tippy top 1-10% level of gameplay, Icebreaker is very good but he also stated a good ad clear option can just be popping prismatic. I still used it in gms and such but snipers as a whole still struggles a little
@thrax4939
@thrax4939 Күн бұрын
Bring it into a GM then get back to me
@drayy8
@drayy8 Күн бұрын
@ I did. It was amazing.
@talentrippin3535
@talentrippin3535 Күн бұрын
@@thrax4939 It's fantastic in GM's. I've been using it in lightblade this week and it's comfortable having an unlimited ammo sniper that can add clear and does pretty good damage to champs and yellow bars
@warlockholmes
@warlockholmes Күн бұрын
Hmmm... Add clear... On a sniper? I see your saying it has add clear, but it's also a sniper. And why would I do that, when I could run like, a pulse, hand cannon, sidearm. Literally any of the above, and not have to worry about landing a sniper shot on adds. Also, it's not a chain reaction sort of effect, so it only gets that first burst.
@TekATV-is1jo
@TekATV-is1jo 9 сағат бұрын
How will this affect lebrons legacy
@EspyJW
@EspyJW Күн бұрын
Does the VH column represent this season or last? I'm confused 6:47
@thundercookie1741
@thundercookie1741 Күн бұрын
Vesper's host maybe?
@SpiderReviver
@SpiderReviver 20 сағат бұрын
He initially did a small update to the tier list sometime around Vesper's host (I can't remember if it was before or after) and then did a more comprehensive pass with Festival.
@blue_bloodstar6949
@blue_bloodstar6949 10 сағат бұрын
I still dont get the No hesitation and lumina reasoning, they stack? so shouldnt there be no reason for lumina to be worse than before?
@TheAegisRelic
@TheAegisRelic 5 сағат бұрын
You don't really tend to run both as it's a big loss in uptime for whatever else you want to do, and No Hesitation is an even greater bonus than Lumina since it's 10% multiplicative
@blue_bloodstar6949
@blue_bloodstar6949 5 сағат бұрын
@ cant like 2 different poeople use them tho? And no hesitations takes some time to proc while lumina is almost instant
@TheAegisRelic
@TheAegisRelic 3 сағат бұрын
The biggest difference is that Lumina doesn't splash as well
@blue_bloodstar6949
@blue_bloodstar6949 3 сағат бұрын
@@TheAegisRelic IT SPLASHES?
@sQuaTsiFieD
@sQuaTsiFieD Күн бұрын
Cloudstrike in C tier surprised me. I've been using it a lot ever since still hunt got nerfed.
@kyeda
@kyeda Күн бұрын
Arent u just bad then? Still hunt still goated
@lunarstrikeok9756
@lunarstrikeok9756 Күн бұрын
@@kyedastill hunt is very much not goated lol
@Alckee6904
@Alckee6904 Күн бұрын
@@kyeda Cloudstrike has always had higher dps then still hunt just not higher total.
@MakabeMatsuri
@MakabeMatsuri Күн бұрын
@@kyedaUsing cloud strike needs as more skills as using still hunt ……..since both need to do precision shots to maximize the dmg
@sQuaTsiFieD
@sQuaTsiFieD Күн бұрын
@@kyeda yes its still good ofc it is, but its not so good you need to use it at all times to keep up. good one though
@NobleSquid
@NobleSquid Күн бұрын
Polaris Lance is amazing for GMs is it not?
@MakabeMatsuri
@MakabeMatsuri Күн бұрын
Not really It restricts your mobility and it has inherent low dmg every shot while the solar ignition can only be proced with 4 precision shots so not really good for add clear Rocket sidearms do a better job add clearing and it also allows players to move around and can also help reduce ability cooldown for ability spam The most important Sitting in the back of the room shooting scout rifles is not effective and is not safe in most scenarios (like in GM Light Blade this week etc )Polaris only stood out in season of the wish with solar artifacts
@faridronin
@faridronin 20 сағат бұрын
It was 2 seasons ago
@TheAegisRelic
@TheAegisRelic 4 сағат бұрын
Not without artifact support
@djcolon7581
@djcolon7581 15 сағат бұрын
Build video next please!
@balgossa7896
@balgossa7896 Күн бұрын
shorter Aegis videos = :( Longer Aegis = :)
@baileybo5201
@baileybo5201 Күн бұрын
Doesnt deterministic chaos have intrinsic anti-barrier now though?
@TheAegisRelic
@TheAegisRelic 4 сағат бұрын
Still not really relevant
@AsecCosmic
@AsecCosmic 9 сағат бұрын
🎉
@4_xenon672
@4_xenon672 Күн бұрын
arables is best in slot when i have a linear fusion rifle bounty and im not taking off eager lol
@4_xenon672
@4_xenon672 Күн бұрын
arables, arbalest*
@SavvyMon4
@SavvyMon4 Күн бұрын
@@4_xenon672you do know that there is an edit button for KZbin comments right?
@elijahw-anderson654
@elijahw-anderson654 Күн бұрын
I have that Roll Tomorrows Answy
@friskdreemurr1155
@friskdreemurr1155 Күн бұрын
Give Still Hunt a catalyst that provides a stacking damage buff on precision hits (maybe 5% up to max of 6 for 10s, just spitballing though I recognize that might be way too much) to make shooting it raw not that bad and also to give the GG shots a damage boost without having to play Nighthawk Hunter. I don’t think that would be absolutely busted, but even it if is it’s now good on all classes
@goldspiral
@goldspiral 9 сағат бұрын
another tier list, another ruinous effigy S tier placement.
@BosheitV
@BosheitV Күн бұрын
Great list, D might be too high for icebreaker ngl, if it wasn’t a new iconic gun I don’t think many would use it if at all
@thisone98
@thisone98 Күн бұрын
Still farming that EA bait inhibitor... Run 200 still nothing
@MakabeMatsuri
@MakabeMatsuri Күн бұрын
I got it last night but with 65 blast radius and no spike Heart broken(1d22h spent in vesper)
@TheAegisRelic
@TheAegisRelic 4 сағат бұрын
I HAVE GOOD NEWS FOR YOU
@wolfgangnester6891
@wolfgangnester6891 Күн бұрын
Dude graviton is s tier for sure right next to sunshot i take graviton into gms and master dungeons and it slays
@Dr.Vinheim
@Dr.Vinheim Күн бұрын
Ex diris is not bad at all, i use it after finishing all my grand overture for puppeteer and its great. I got suspended so I can't reply rn, but the only other arc special weapons you would use for damage swap on puppeteer are indebted and cloudstrike, ex diris does more than indebted and isn't as unrealistic to use like cloudstrike.
@MakabeMatsuri
@MakabeMatsuri Күн бұрын
This video is about meta weapson it‘s not placed in high tier because there are other better dmg options&add clear options in energy slots Ex diris is good on that scenario is because puppeteer has a long dmg phase and summons yellow bars Ex diris can help deal with yellow bars However the dmg output on this weapon is not that great and on most scenarios we don’t need to clear adds while doing dmg even if we do need to that we can just spam abilities (titans slam warlocks pop transcence nades Hunter nades melee and a few primary shots)then focus on dealing dmg so Ex diris is kinda shadowed by other options
@4_xenon672
@4_xenon672 Күн бұрын
why can’t you play on other people’s accounts if they have the rolls that you want?
@Sevin007
@Sevin007 Күн бұрын
Risk of ban since they started targeting recovery accounts where ppl log in to complete stuff for someone who usually wouldn’t have been able to
@Alckee6904
@Alckee6904 Күн бұрын
@@Sevin007 Bungie has stated going to the tower, picking up bounties and doing strikes is fine. The issue is any endgame content ie trials, raids, gm's etc.
@keylatheace_dcs127
@keylatheace_dcs127 Күн бұрын
bad juju my beloved, infinite supers with skull
@lemrant
@lemrant Күн бұрын
Aegis you didn’t include my favourite exotic the Ballyhoo mk 27 with zorpal weapon and rapid shit, I’m sorry but I can no longer stand by you and this opinion.
@jwilsonred1913
@jwilsonred1913 Күн бұрын
Time to let someone else form my opinions 😁
@brandonhaag52
@brandonhaag52 Күн бұрын
I was the 2000 th viewer
@Cookie-3
@Cookie-3 Күн бұрын
:3
@Dr.Vinheim
@Dr.Vinheim Күн бұрын
:)
@jennifahjennii5023
@jennifahjennii5023 Күн бұрын
I am the dawg
@sachi2935
@sachi2935 Күн бұрын
haiii aegy :3
@AaronLathlin
@AaronLathlin Күн бұрын
first
@Stormhunter117
@Stormhunter117 Күн бұрын
The Still Hunt nerf basically proved to me that Bungie will never let Hunters shine. Without any advocates for us among the large content creators, it seems like we're destined to always be second fiddle to the other classes. Sunbracers takes two years to nerf. Starfire takes two years to nerf. Throwing Hammer takes three years to nerf. Well takes like 6 years to nerf. Still Hunt, though? 2 months 😂
@JLM-y5g
@JLM-y5g Күн бұрын
Happens to all of us, not just Hunters. If that were true, Hunters still wouldn't be running rampant in Crucible and still one of the best in the game for swap loadouts.
@kingkobra4910
@kingkobra4910 Күн бұрын
Sunbracers was more just baby mode ad clear and survival while still hunt made any boss baby mode. Outside of prismatic consecration being able to bully everything but bosses ad clear is mostly the same for every class (restoration devour woven etc)
@Stormhunter117
@Stormhunter117 Күн бұрын
@JLM-y5g This has nothing to do with crucible. And I gave examples of clear anti-Hunter bias. It does not happen to all of us.
@IIzanagii
@IIzanagii Күн бұрын
Literally every class says this about any nerf to their synergies or abilities, it happens to everyone hunters are not special😂
@Stormhunter117
@Stormhunter117 Күн бұрын
@IIzanagii I gave timelines. Yes it happens to everyone, but it happens significantly faster to us.
@OxMaaBxO
@OxMaaBxO Күн бұрын
3 sec in ... saw the list ... yeah this list is shit lol .... closing the video
@TheAegisRelic
@TheAegisRelic 4 сағат бұрын
I don't think this channel is meant for you
@OxMaaBxO
@OxMaaBxO 3 сағат бұрын
@TheAegisRelic dude 90% of all weapons are f and g tear
@TheAegisRelic
@TheAegisRelic 3 сағат бұрын
Yeah and that's accurate in endgame content
@OxMaaBxO
@OxMaaBxO 3 сағат бұрын
I mean there are some unusable trash and some ok weapons in the same tear .. like darci and wish ender or arbbalest😬
@SpiderReviver
@SpiderReviver Күн бұрын
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