ENDING The High Polling Rate Debate (shocking)

[@Scoolymatic]

when a Finalmouse, small size, dot skates, 8000hz user gets destroyed by a crusty gpx 1, stock skates 500hz user or maybe a fkin g502 user

[@tyl3rb-fw6ee]

So many of these people don’t want to accept this reality. Lol

[@baileyboys2292]

That’s me small Fm dot skates 8k hz but will have to switch to 4khz possibly

[@Aerobrake]

me literally (G502 user)

[@Soleft]

okay now give that final mouse to the other user lol. My final mouse legit helped me get from imo2 to 3. No going back to a 60g mouse.

[@breakies]

dont forget that the free thinker has 5000hours in koovaks and takes gamer supplements to perform his bist. (he is plat 1 in valo)

[@chy.0190]

Half of them CS pros using 8k and 4k polling rate, are using 400 dpi at the same time lol. So they are not really "gaining anything" from using a higher polling rate (not that it matters much anyway).

[@shapeshifter7676]

They're gaining a ton of prize money from the tournaments. What are you gaining?

[@QuaK3RRR]

why not ? u got lower buttonclick delay so what ?

[@MrPayPay-]

@@shapeshifter7676 you gotta be fucking retarded so say this.

[@lynxcs145]

it feels like more and more are switching to 800 nowadays since donk shat on the scene with 1.25@800

[@Jumbob]

cs pros really dont know anything about tech🤣so many of them swear that 400 dpi is better than 1600dpi but that literally makes no sense, it would be the same to say 60hz is better than 144hz.

[@toquita3d]

I remember Coldzera hitting 30+ kills and being World Champion twice with a 500 Hz Zowie mouse.

[@SlarkCS]

I remember Taz literally winning kato 14 with a microsoft 1900s mouse

[@stefanpapdi5151]

The same year, his teammate Fer was top 3 hltv using 125hz on rival 300. Literally. Not because his mouse had issues but he just liked 125hz more because a game he played before could only use 125 lol

[@notTerabyte]

​@@SlarkCStaz was on an ec1 during kato14 iirc

[@cloud_conductor]

yeah when sk/lg were winning majors they were all on 125hz or 500hz fer had the highest adr in pro league on 125hz lol

[@stefanpapdi5151]

Also those ec2A za12A mice couldnt even get to 1000hz consistently going from 500-750-850 rarely 1000hz so most cs pro zowie users used 500hz since 1000hz wasnt stable…. Lmao..

[@JizzburnGigaqueer]

Trolling Rate

[@richardhunter9779]

Underrated post.

[@saintyoo]

It's sad that anyone can say x is better without showing any testing or proof.

[@chy.0190]

Welcome to fps community. Full of placebo merchants. They have become like how the audiophile community became.

[@aeroecars]

​@@chy.0190Yup. Easiest way to call out their BS on the polling rate debate is to make them do a blind A/B test. 100% of people will not be able to notice the difference between 1K and 2/4/8K in any game. This isn't an exaggeration. You can definitely notice the difference between 1K and 2K on the desktop, but never in game. Anyone who says they can are walking, breathing manifestations of the placebo effect. Companies love grifting those suckers.

[@shapeshifter7676]

and what's your proof that your choice is better?

[@saintyoo]

@shapeshifter7676 what?

[@Toxic-yt8pe]

@@chy.0190 bro just welcome to the internet in general... anyone can say anything without any proof, evidence, or consequences. Always take everything with a grain of salt

[@yxzzy300]

The only noticeable difference between 1k hz and 8k hz on my super light 2 is how fast the battery drains

[@Omarock]

I use 2k as well. Tried the other ones, at 4k (on a 9700k) I start noticing frame drops on cpu bound games that get really high fps like CS. 8k is downright unusable in a lot of games due to lack of support. I don't notice any performance hit on 2k so it seems like the sweet spot for now.

[@RomanMlejnek]

exactly, when I got a new mouse I tried to use 4k but I noticed stutters in KF2, realized what's up and went to 2k and no issues since

[@Xaero_ZRX-33]

8000hz 🤏😴... GXSPEED ON 🚬🗿 EGG GODLIKE

[@bizzybapcrodie]

ants gif

[@Laszered]

Switched to 500hz because 1k caused an issue in an old shooter I played. Kept it at that and genuinely forgot about it playing various other shooters at a very high level, and on a very good 240hz panel. What I can conclude is that there is absolutely no instance where that polling rate will make you ANY better. Just remember guys, you can schizo about a mouse setting, or you can play the game and actually get better. You will never find the secret setting lmao just get better there is someone out there with a g502 directly on their desk that will smoke you in your favourite game

[@IrrationalDelusion]

I reached top 0,1% score in Kovaak’s task on G502 X :S

[@kesamek8537]

Git gud is the mouse setting of champions.

[@ayda2876]

exactly lmao its all pure cope, Donk uses 1k hz and hes pissing on everyone

[@chrislawler5938]

I’d love to see data on the polling rates used by CS:GO pros, the percentage breakdown of each polling rate and how they correlate with leaderboard rankings or win rates. It would be fascinating to analyze if there's a trend among top-performing players and polling rate! I suspect there's not

[@tyl3rb-fw6ee]

There shouldn’t be. Actual brains, training, skill gets involved at pro level. Their reaction time is extremely fast and accurate to the point that polling rate or

[@vsnfudge]

my kids gonna be playing on 32k polling or what

[@IrrationalDelusion]

1ms or 0,012 ms, then 0,00001 stuff… Why…

[@Xafia]

1:49 diminishing returns, jump from 500 to 1k is a lot more than 1k to 2k or 2k to 4k. I still personally believe that 2k would probably be the sweet spot though rn 1k is still the most balanced, honestly mouse manufacturers will make high polling rate more efficient on battery in the future anyway.

[@aevidyt]

Exactly this

[@piskooooo]

i'm a 2k truther. it seems like it barely makes a difference in battery life on my ulx too

[@stefanpapdi5151]

@@piskoooooUr ulx has better sensor latency on 1000hz (-0.7ms on techpowerup testing) than 95% of the markets 4000hz implementations so 2000hz on it is great

[@Chromixxxx]

nah 1k to 4k is a major jump stop going in increments thats your issue

[@stefanpapdi5151]

@Xafia also be careful since many 4000hz mice have horrible 1000hz implementations, like more than half of them are very slow on 1000hz

[@especialistaemmira3796]

An important thing I learned after more than a decade studying this stuff is: just because you can feel the difference-the micro-nuances between polling rates or DPI values-doesn't mean it's actually helping you more than placebo. I mean, less input lag is good, but in pratice, the curve of how much you benefit from it drops off hard after even 1k. Curiously, my findings kinda align with the settings most pro players use. Honestly, I feel like the future is more about custom-made shells than hardware improvements when comes to mouses for e-sports.

[@JessicaFEREM]

also depends on the game a lot. some mice lagged my osu out so horribly (20 FPS) that I couldn't play so I was forced to play at a lower Hz. corsair mice are awful for this and I can only assume it gets worse the higher you go.

[@Terra101]

Polling rate is such a small variable. Sensor position is a huge one, but one cares, because you can't put a number on it and sell for a lot of money. Because no one cares, give us sensors with higher numbers, higher DPI, higher polling, higher version numbers. If it's new it's good.

[@boardzy]

Sensor position is very subjective which makes it tough, and like you said not many people or companies care

[@Terra101]

@@boardzy Which makes it even weirder that they are fixed. This very subjective issue, we are just gonna put a fixed random position on every mouse.

[@Terra101]

@@Volsia I think it's because of me, ngl.

[@stefanpapdi5151]

Idk the finemen has horrible sensor latency at 1000hz but at 4000hz it feels like my other mice like gpx2 on 8000 and viper v2 4000

[@Terra101]

@@stefanpapdi5151 Sounds like a faulty mouse.

[@willwunsche6940]

My friend I helped teach Overwatch eventually became a consistent longtime top 500 player and he is only on 1080p120hz screen. I agree with the videos conclusion and will rant about 480hz OLED being amazing and super fun for example but you don't need the best gear to be the best or anything. Just worth keeping in mind

[@ying2837]

Electrifying

[@nawfyy]

truly

[@hitkhu]

After maining Razers' implementation of 'Motion Sync' this is honestly where higher polling rate makes a more noticeable difference. Almost like having G-Sync (with ULMB/DyAC2+ performance) vs having UnCapped frame rate

[@MrGiggles2196]

50+% of the CS Pros using 2k or higher polling, and not a single one of them is using a DPI high enough to saturate those polling rates lol.

[@free_microwave]

400 dpi still benefits. doesnt saturate as fully but still benefits from going over 1k

[@EZEQUIEL2007.]

​@@free_microwave Facts.

[@defiantzzz]

EHHHHHHHHHH WRONG, sh1ro Niko Twist JL EliGE are 5 off the top of my head lol.

[@Mouthbreather777]

Boardzy i saw you at microcenter muttering under your breath as you were trying the reddragon brand mice

[@maakureviews]

That's so specific

[@jtdripp]

entire peripheral market is built off mid rank players thinking 'on paper' stats will make them pro.

[@laws1n874]

facts

[@r_turner]

I have a proper 1ms response monitor with motion blur reduction technology, GPX 2 @8k hz , 7800x3D + 4070 ti, and Considerably Good at PUBG And my friend with a Zowie fk1b 1k hz on a 5600g 1660ti on a 165hz , shits on me in 1v1 any given day.

[@motion2597]

1:13 Damn 144hz is the new 60hz 😂

[@shusakudake]

to be fair from 60hz to 144 is the big diff everything after feels like 10% diff but 60 to 144 is like 70% diffrent

[@CR0WYT]

@@shusakudake this. Diminishing returns plays a role and it just varies between person to person. Going from 60hz to 144hz was an eye opener for me. Going into 240hz from 144hz wasn't nearly that impactful. I played at a LAN cafe when I was out of state with a 240hz monitor provided for a few weeks. I was able to go back to 144hz at home just fine. Meanwhile going back to 60hz makes my eyes bleed.

[@2.5stinga]

Lol he gotta be trolling, 480hz with dsc is dogshit. Id rather play 144-240 hz natively at 2k.

[@fnvfanMSPR]

I could already tell he knows nothing about monitors when he thinks 144Hz is the cause of ghosting and screen tearing

[@vansoffthewall222]

​@@fnvfanMSPRMy thoughts exactly 🤣

[@cyberfunk3793]

Only way to really know the truth is do some randomised blinded trial where people are given the different poling rates in series without them knowing which one is which and then someone records if they notice the difference. Like 15min per random rate and after each timespan the person has to guess which rate it was.

[@lucaschenJC]

5800x3d+4070 super+240hz monitor here, currently rocking 4k/8k with 0 issues. Those high polling rates do add additional smoothness in gun flicking scenarios

[@cream_mc132]

mac mini (2012) + 60hz monitor here, currently rocking 1k with 0 issues. my mouse cant go higher than 1k.

[@evmadic]

This! Flicking is when you notice the higher polling rate the most. Not sure if there is an aim labs scenario that trains this but if there was, you'd see a lot more players favoring higher polling rates to achieve the highest scores

[@FriendNotFoeBand]

​@evmadic also agreed. I noticed it with my wingman accuracy. I was able to track strafe better on 8k over everything else. Although the extra polling does bring out more tiny mistakes under pressure for me.

[@athan1281]

Same setup but 4070 super and 280hz. I was a nonbeliever until i turned 4k on on a whim. Felt the difference on 800dpi.

[@max10hoop]

​@@cream_mc132 based

[@otaviosakay3133]

thanks Boardzy, great pointers

[@JessicaFEREM]

CS2 players need to realize that 400DPI is a crap way to play the game

[@shapeshifter7676]

When was the last time you won a CS major?

[@VoltaReviews]

Hey, that’s me at the start under your Tweet, truly shocking indeed 😮 2k all the way 🔥

[@merrickx]

in my mind 4k+ refresh rates are taxing the CPU to the degree that the returns are negated and now some sort of negative is introduced. There's no basis for this though, I just choose to think it

[@S4SK__1]

i was using 8k no problem on my 13900ks and 14900kf but after i switched to amd with the 9950x i had INSANE stuttering when moving the mouse, but sadly i didn't understand that it is caused by the 8k polling so i got myself a 9800x3d insanely overpriced and it was still skipping, after multiple games and multiple days of troubleshooting i found that the 8000hz polling was the problem. 8k is fucking insanely smooth but it just wont work on this rig

[@boardzy]

I haven't had an intel cpu in a long time, but AMD is known to require more tweaking generally for high polling rates

[@Venus1k00]

At least you have the best gaming cpu in your hands

[@TheHandHistoryVault]

Did you overclock your DRAM? If so, what to? I had the same problem using 8K on my 5950x. I had my memory out of sync, overclocked to 3800. Once I brought it down to 3600 1 to 1. The stuttering stop. Imo, AMD has a problem with overclock memory.

[@QuaK3RRR]

fix ur bios...

[@QuaK3RRR]

@@TheHandHistoryVault 5600x 8k in cs2 and valorant ZERO Problems!!!!

[@KaledTV]

Blurbusters ended this r3taeded debate with actual research, you don't have to listen to any washed up clown.

[@jefflum4040]

I’m using 2k Hz. I don’t personally feel that big of a difference between 2k and 1k but it doesn’t really affect the battery life that much so I’ll probably just stick to that until I upgrade my 240hz monitor

[@spyder256]

I just got a Mchose A7 Ultra, using it at 4K Hz, and I can clearly see and feel the difference vs my old GPX Superlight and clearly aim better. Call me schizo or whatever but I'm confident that if these 2 mice felt exactly the same I could identify them in a blind test. Gameplay while using the Mchose looks and feels so much smoother.

[@Quixidion]

Battle(non)sense made a full experiment and analysis on this. He pretty much ended the debate, but no one knows him that well :( He make amazing content! Check that video out, when you can. Also, the way mice work with polling rate is something worth knowing. The more it updates the position (higher polling rate), the more toll it takes on the CPU, because it interrupts CPU processes, when it wants to update it's position. Powerful CPUs might not have any issues, but I lag a lot, if I use 8K. It is not an engine issue, it is also a hardware issue. I don't have a good CPU, so it makes sense that it lags, but since I also don't have a premium monitor and setup in general, I can stick with 1k polling rate, even though I can go to 2, 4 or 8K.

[@mybaIIz]

1khz competitive fps player here and never had an issue using that, I never felt like mouse polling rate could be as day and night as 60hz - 144hz difference on monitors for example. Let me know if it's actually that crazy or not

[@Papablesss]

Like you said 7:00, wired 8k is the way to go. Wireless 8k on my Viper V3 Pro has a faster response time due to the sensor but tracking is harder due to the inconsistent polling rate. My deathadder V3 wired 8k tracking is flawless but ( a grain of salt on the reason )has a slight delay due to motion sync. Overall after playing with both for 500 hours I’m rocking with the deathadder v3. It helps when playing games where you have to go against aim assist

[@ThiagoTech]

If you play a lot of tracking games with +480hz monitor you need to use 8k 😇

[@ThotsAndPrayers]

you really dont

[@chy.0190]

No you do not NEED to use 8k lol. Even with a high speed camera that can capture up to 1000 fps, on a 540hz monitor. There was no difference when switching to 8K. This shit is placebo.

[@leonardonakashima4529]

Thank you for the Magic Ice skate recommendation... Probably the best full skates I've ever tested. 🙂

[@chandora01]

I have a router in my room should I build a faraday cage around my setup?

[@KamiKomplex504]

Bro never mind the 8k thing ... That monitor is insane, they really making these now? Man we've come a long ways.

[@MorrTex]

Thxx Pollfessor Boardzy 🙏

[@tyl3rb-fw6ee]

Selling something advertised as 8khz polling while acknowledging that it may have instability and recommending using a lower polling rate is all I need to know about these companies.

[@HeyNavi]

Has nothing to do with the company, it’s about the games not supporting the high polling rate. Val/ow2 plays 8k very smooth

[@CRAiCED.]

1000 is the old reliable and the standard, 2000 is the chad, 4000 is for ego and 8000 is for the delusional

[@fotoschopro1230]

I think the configuration of the major players has more to do with them just using newer mice and those newer mice tend to come with higher polling rates more often. Once you have it, it's better, as long as the game and your CPU can support it. But it's not a game changer or must have in my opinion, just an incremental improvement over previous mice. Also most people that flame those high polling rates do so simply because mouse companies abused them for marketing a while back.

[@chy.0190]

He did not mention what DPI most of those players use. The high polling rate enthusiasts would consider it blasphemous. There is a lot of CS pros on 400 dpi still.

[@bostafu]

I just dont understand why other ppl who dont choose to go 8k gotta gaslight others who like 8k and say its placebo.

[@RJ-pb1qx]

The only viable ending for the 8k polling rate ‘debate’ is to say that it’s a gimmick, useless, no one can use it, no one needs it, and everyone knows it and it make makes mice more expensive that they should be.

[@CR0WYT]

Back in 2023, ScreaM was dunking on pro players with an old Finalmouse Ergo running at 500hz.

[@fpsLyle]

that stache deserves some FDNY drip to match

[@bug-qe1jz]

thank you i can now sleep well at night

[@BohmanderTCG]

high polling rate feels slower for me somehow... im fine with 500-1000

[@Rocket33r]

500 Hz is totally usable, but it usually doesn't make sense to lower to 500 Hz, because performance and battery life is good on 1000 Hz. The thing about 2000Hz is that it's not universally supported, meaning that not every mouse can do it out of the box, but every mouse can do 1000Hz. Also, a lot of people will also be on mice that can't even go up to 2000Hz, like the GPX 1.

[@boardzy]

Yeah all true, my point is that if you have access to 2k and it runs fine, it makes sense to use it over 1k for the same reasons you use 1k instead of 500hz

[@Rocket33r]

@@boardzy Yeah, I think I agree with that.

[@laws1n874]

@@boardzy i bought the sword x, and i prefer to use it with 1k+ highspeed mode, it feels better imo

[@Unavenged]

I am on a DA V3 Pro at 1k (feels the best to me) and 1600 DPI. Mainly play COD, have an Asus 27" 240hz OLED monitor, 5800X, 32 gigs of ram and a 3080 all OC'ed to the max. 2K feels a little off and taxes the system a little more than I need. I seem to actually play better at 1k.

[@anathar13]

6:00 set a high dpi and then use rawaccel and set the sens multiplier to match the dpi before, for example I use 800 dpi, I put 8000 and the use 0.1 as sens multiplier in rawaccel, then you get 800 dpi

[@Soleft]

it's the same thing, I literally asked the creator.

[@maxzoRHD]

Open up a pooling rate test, move your mouse around , let me know what numbers you see . Most of the time mouse is working well bellow 1000 .

[@stefanpapdi5151]

zowie used to not even go to much above 500hz much less 1000hz on their A-series and most pros used 500hz for stability…

[@maxzoRHD]

@stefanpapdi5151 Yeah i mean if you were to move it around like you are playing ( Cs ) in my case, numbers are avg like 500 as you said , or even lower . Its only on constant moving in circles you can hit 1k or higer . And again as you mentioned keyword "stability" no1 wants to think about possible issues, expecialy in some scenarios like tournaments or any competitive game . By that logic, its simply not worth to experiment with, for such small difference . If a high end gear doesnt give you skill, nor will 1ms difference in latency . Its all about being consistent, in competitive gameplay .

[@defiantzzz]

Average 4000.074 hz Median: 4001.601 hz 1 Percentile: 3660.322 hz

[@Aerobrake]

Mouse: 1k Keyboard: 8k I don't really care as much about my mouse but i love watching mouse reviews, i care a lot more about the keyboard I use aka my Wooting 80HE

[@AbhishekSaral]

I got to top 500 in OW on a Razer Laptop 15in display at 144hz using a Glorious Model O in 2019. I now have a 32in 240hz oled with Viper V3 Pro at 2k polling and I am now top 100 in OW. I think the biggest contributor was just me getting better at the game but really there is a huge diminishing return after 144hz and 1000hz polling. You will not climb from gold to diamond just getting better gear. It will make it easier like 5% maybe a bit more if you are lucky but nothing significant

[@boardzy]

The better gear allowed you to transcend and your brain has you convinced otherwise

[@brsess]

In 2019 people playing Overwatch now ow2 kinda dead maybe thats why higher rank because less people

[@sxnthwave]

If you can use it, you should. It's really just a matter of why not. But you shouldn't move heaven and earth to use 4k or 8k if your setup isn't even a good match for it, or if your game is poorly optimized for it. Personally I've been using 4k on my X2V2 and 1k on my X2H v3 while I wait for my 8k dongle to come in. It's a minimal difference on a 480hz monitor on Valorant with -10ping where it should be most noticeable.

[@z34lewis]

a lot of games just have issues over 1k i find, stuttering and shit

[@boardzy]

Which games do you have in mind, are they older titles? I don't play a huge variety but 2k is always safe for me

[@z34lewis]

@boardzy 4k hz mostly, I've seen issues in apex a few times, destiny 2, division 2. Not sure if it's an issue tied to fps or not but it's consistent between mice and I've got 20+ including the new fnatic maya x, egg xm2w, wolves hati s+ 4k, and my PC is a 12700k 3080, so not even terrible

[@artisan137]

You can do an A/B blind test, and it is unlikely that anyone will be able to distinguish 1K from 4K or 8K. There are a lot of arguments here not in favor of those who believe in the miraculous 4K or 8K, if many do not even understand the basics and will only fall for the marketing. Donk plays on 1K and is still the best player of the year at his young age and the Major winner, other pro players are just testing high polling rate, they do not quite understand the difference between 1K or 4K. And most importantly, from my own personal experience with mice, keyboards and mousepads, you will not become a better player by buying expensive devices, if you're a skilled player, it does not matter what to play on

[@boardzy]

Donk is 17 and has prime reaction time and processing speed. He would be too good if he switched to high polling

[@artisan137]

@@boardzy I'll disappoint you if I say that CS2 doesn't support High Polling Rate

[@Kryptix0III]

I just shocked all over the screen

[@PaneledPear]

Why are CS pros using higher polling rates at 400-800 DPI?

[@ninablu]

sponsored, most CS Teams have a mouse sponsor and the don't necessarily choose which mouse to use.

[@stefanpapdi5151]

the op1 8k and fineman i have both reach 4000hz instantly and stay there even at 800dpi

[@kayo29232]

@@ninablu ? lol

[@saenstopie]

Yea, doesn't make sense, the cs pros argument is not really a factor in the discussion, they're taking placebo pills just for the fun of it(if there is any fun at all in taking pills)...

[@chy.0190]

@@ninablu prosettings confirmed that MOST CS and Valorant pros are not forced to use a particular mice or from one manufacturer, even if they are sponsored. There is a minority that do have to.

[@angus5427]

Cs player - I tried 4k in csgo and it lagged like fuck so went back to 1k and forgot about it.

[@Chromixxxx]

people in the comments keep saying back in the day like mf its 2024 we arnt living in the past where everyone had to use archaic tech but still dropped kills use the better tech and drop more kills simple as that

[@chy.0190]

Many pros still use 1k polling rate and 400 dpi, with 60-80g mice and 3370 sensor. In the end peripherals are not that important at the highest level. There has been diminishing returns in sensors since the 3370, the best players today can use them and they will remain the best players lol

[@Chromixxxx]

@@chy.0190 pure defintion of a guy that cant embrace the modern era stay stuck in your olden ways my friend while everyone evolves

[@kesamek8537]

If you can't win at 250Hz or 500Hz you will still lose at 1k, 2k, 4k, 8k. The limiting factor is you.

[@KaleTornado]

Problem with your twitter poll is that you're polling a large group of people, presumably, who do not have access to use anything higher than 1k

[@supaherc]

Boardzy our savior!

[@monteking1554]

I have a very good setup, and 8k polling rate makes my games FPS stuttering

[@stefanpapdi5151]

Someone said coldzera used 500hz. Fer who was his teammate and just as good used 125hz because he got used to it since some game he played before could only do 125hz inputs. And Also fer can only hear on 1 ear so he was always turning right to listen to sounds lol ofc its not the mouse or even having eyes or ears but if u can why not use the best is my motto. Not like nerfing urself to 125hz helps… Fer stopped doing it nowadays since he also realized wtf was wrong with me

[@teto7827]

GPX 2 8k pulling rate and my mouse spinning like crazy time to time... on 4k works perfectly fine

[@nukkafin]

1600 dpi with 2k hrz is exactly what I use.

[@ayda2876]

pro players can use the 8k or 4k or whatever because they have insane pc's insane internet and insane monitors but i think most people dont have that

[@mustypipes6602]

Well if we are talking about spitting hairs here, in regards to performance with a wire, performance is the based king. No rat tail phobia over here. 2k polling on the xm2 8k by the way.

[@QuaK3RRR]

WAKE UP, ITS ABOUT BUTTONCLICK DELAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Metalovai]

Thanks for fixing the mic!

[@oaktre3]

whats the website / app to check what polling rate your mouse is hitting?

[@EvenCobra]

if 8k only affects battery life then why people hating other people that use it? i think the same thing happened with monitors when 360hz was a new thing

[@chy.0190]

Not close to being a good comparison. There is proof that even if we go up to 1000hz refresh rate on monitors there will be motion clarity improvement. 2khz on mice provides most of the "gains" 8k gives. And is barely noticeable when testing with high speed camera on 540hz monitors. In the end, the whole pro high polling rate sentiment comes down to feelings.

[@EvenCobra]

@chy.0190 yeah that's what im saying, that people look at the numbers and not things like motion clarity etc

[@nf1]

I use 8k, and 390hz. Feels very smooth but I could go back to 1k and a 240hz monitor easily

[@boardzy]

I think I had that monitor from acer, there was a lot of ghosting I noticed after I swapped off

[@nf1]

@boardzy Worth the upgrade from that acer to a 480hz?

[@boardzy]

@@nf1 Imo yeah. I upgraded to a 360hz 1440p ips from ASUS before going to 480hz oled, but this is the best tech currently

[@fpsLyle]

Does RJN still send you fanmail?

[@Exyile]

its just less latency why wouldnt you want that, just makes ur performance represent your actual inputs

[@jeffry3522]

Polling rate makes no in game difference where i would lose cuz i am not using 4k or 8k but if the standard is 1k polling then why would you use 500 polling , that's like saying shoes and slippers do the same job of protecting the sole of the foot then why not switch to slippers for life. 1k is the standard and will be the standard for years to come.

[@boardzy]

Does 500hz make an in game difference where you will lose because you aren't using 1k?

[@stefanpapdi5151]

@@jeffry3522 many 1000hz mice couldnt actually reach 1000hz like zowie with the 3310 sensor

[@jeffry3522]

@@stefanpapdi5151 I mean you gotta buy a good mouse and not be influenced by the polling rate cuz the trend now is to only look at the polling rate but theres more important things to look at like shape.

[@jeffry3522]

@@boardzy Why settle for less when you don’t have to? , Above 1k isn't necessary, but sticking to 1k is just smart.

[@NoName-st6zc]

This video left me confused. I'm playing on a WMO @ 500hz combined with a 60hz flatscreen. Am i missing out on something here?

[@grantzu]

when my ulx came early this year i put it on 4k and fortnite was lagging like crazy so i put it back on 1k and never tried it again

[@stefanpapdi5151]

@@grantzu The ulx has 1000hz better sensor latency than every other 4000hz mouse, so ur basically using 4000hz anyways (techpowerup had it at -0.7ms compared to wired g403 and -1.1ms at 4000hz)

[@stefanpapdi5151]

@@grantzu Many 4000hz mice are at 1000hz way slower (1ms or higher) than the wired g403, but finalmouse nailed the 1000hz to have it faster than any 1000hz wired mouse aside from endgamegear

[@merrickx]

if battery is an issue just get two of the same mouse and rotate them duh

[@SayaPeripheralTech]

The thumbnail is craazy 🤣🤣

[@CheekyChunt]

I use 8k but only become using a op1 8k so no battery life needed so might as well.

[@countercorps]

I really need a guide on USB optimized placement. I have tried to use USB Tree and it just isnt clear cut for me.

[@cream_mc132]

i am shocked 😯

[@MrBread10]

it was quite shocking!

[@ayda2876]

lol we dont all have hundreds of dollars to spend on gaming to get something better than a 144hz

[@rawrj]

Question: What about motion sync?

[@RyanHenderson]

In cs (or basically in any other source based game) all your mouse polling rate is limited to fps value due to engine specifics. In fact you don't even have 1k hz in that game. So good luck with playing on 2k or even 4k. Regards.

[@t3ngristtt]

Just use wired for sake of your health

[@reallybigman7]

what cpu do you have mr. boardzy?

[@marmot6224]

Polling Rate School

[@Boofski]

ngl i voted for 1k but that's because i don't have the pulsar dongle, if it'd came with my mouse i'd use 2k but i'm also not spending $20 to upgrade to 2k you smell me?

[@OkayAlright]

The honorable Australians lmao

[@LyHy]

So what would be the best polling rate for a 144hz monitor?

[@boardzy]

1k

[@QuaK3RRR]

8k

[@p1va9]

Until last year I was using 500hz on all my wired mice that support 1000hz lol

[@3bo6tshyPersonal]

yap yap yap

[@ming3111]

What LOD would you recommend on the lamzu maya x with tiger ice or stock skates?

[@IIHydraII]

2k w/ 1600 DPI.