Endless Legend Guide - #1 - Settings and Factions

[@KirinDave]

So friends. We have several more episodes here, but it won't be forever. We'll try to move fast so we can do more races. What race would you like to see next?

[@howell2010]

Dave Fayram I'd say cultists.

[@SRaitsa]

Dave Fayram I would say Ardent Mages, the Yogscast seemed to be a tad lost during their playthroughs of the race.

[@AnAmbientBlack]

Dave Fayram Broken Lords

[@MjG4meplay]

Dave Fayram Cultists

[@serduncan8296]

Dave Fayram Ah Dave, Just the fact that you ask use which ones we want to see warms my heart. :D

[@TenKenStudios]

It's a slight annoyance to see that Lewis invited someone on for their expertise and then proceeds to contradict almost every suggestion they give.

[@svyatoslavrurikovich8831]

JR Hertz It's Lewis, what did you expect?

[@woytaz]

JR Hertz I think it's to give us another point of view so we're better informed about the settings, etc.

[@TheSuperaben]

JR Hertz At least he's getting schooled. I mean every contradiction is followed up by a "no. That's not true because bla bla"

[@lahrsean817]

The first thing noticed in vid

[@SushiCatto]

JR Hertz To be honest, it never really felt like he was being deliberately contradictory, more "but would it work if I did it the other way?" It's good to clarify if it's a personal choice or a "this is better" choice.

[@kylielazar2830]

I adore anything you guys do but because I'm totally obsessed with Endless Legend right now, these guide videos are the best!!!! Love it thank you so much!

[@Caminator42]

I appreciate how fast the guy gave information, very direct and very helpful.

[@alanmckinnon1109]

Thank you so much to Lewis and the Yogscast for keeping this more niche channel alive. I absolutely love the commentary you lot give to games like these. Keep 'em coming!

[@quickaswink]

Im so in love with this dev. I just love their design throughout all of their games and their in depth mechanics. Everything just screams attention to detail

[@RodMunchPHD]

The guide on how to play factions actually helped me a lot. After playing 50 hours of EL, i've only fully understood all my possible win conditions as the Cultists and the Wind Walkers. Understanding how to start as the Vaulters and the Necrophages really gave me a great idea on where to start. Nice job Dave!

[@RossMcDowall94]

Don't worry Lewis, I am never sure if I've pronounced "Dave" right either. ^^

[@Caeloth]

GAME SPEED NORMAL!!! This has made a huge difference in my enjoyment of this game! I used to play on fast. I was expanding just as quickly as I was exploring the map. By turn 90 the game was just about wrapping up. I am now playing on normal game speed and at turn 80 in about the same time it would take to get to 30 in fast. Lots of time to explore map and complete quests!

[@CNsongs]

Hmm interesting. I like how there is a significant difference between factions. I'm thinking about buying this game now.

[@CNsongs]

이종현 I was too late. Spent all the time watching game-plays and faction details. summer sales I guess. but I think I'll like the game.

[@CNsongs]

I tried civ V demo. I didn't like it that much but it wasn't that bad either. That's why I did some research before buying the game, but this really looks better than civ V.

[@pagatryx5451]

+Roger Carter Civ V wasn't good until the expansions came

[@CNsongs]

Ben O'Sullivan I played the demo

[@earlofyarg]

+Roger Carter Or just buy Endless Legend now.

[@glazedgamer7661]

I... Love... This.. GAME!

[@glazedgamer7661]

Schnake Eyes yeah man, these are pretty good, the best way to learn the game is to just put in the time though. It was confusing to me at first but I just played a few games and then it all sort of started to make sense after a while, just take the time to read what everything does, maybe look up some tips on the internet, I'm sure there are some good sources out there, Ive just never checked myself

[@272arshan]

in addition to tutorials, what I do is just jump in and lose until I learn. It's more effective the less complex a game is, obviously, but this one wasn't so bad- I did this with CK2, now *that* was a nightmare. The thing is you don't really lose anything.

[@DonCornelius366]

... looks waaaayyy too confusing to me.

[@272arshan]

MessengerOfTruth Trust me it's not as bad as you think it is. And the easy difficulty is very easy so you can just barrel around uselessly in that until you learn, like I did.

[@TheCookieFlavaJAR]

This game never fails to look beautiful.

[@ZNZBRGEM]

You know nothing Lewis Brindley 0:35

[@demonxkiller1]

We*

[@CNsongs]

15:01 but they never made a difference between Mezari and Vaulters, did they? I wish they were different. Plus science victory is the hardest victory type to go for. I think Mezari needs a buff for their science victory.

[@DaBurningIce]

I don't play Endless Legend but I'm planing on getting the game some day soon and I'm glad you uploaded this video, it will be a great help once I get the game :)

[@NickiNicker]

Ever buy it?

[@DuskHeart13]

Well Lewis, I'm pretty sure that the Wind Waker thing is from The Legend of Zelda: The Windwaker, a series done by Martyn. That's the only wide spread use of the word excluding the weapon in Hyrule Warriors.

[@TheSonsofSigmar]

Two things to look at are: First is Anomaly Odds under world difficulty. (More anomalies make things faster, some ease city/empire growing pains, and there flavor text is awesome. They also place either more or less emphasis on your city placement based on how spread out they are.) Second, in generation presets there is the Scattered map type. Everyone starts on their own 2-3 region island with no strategic resource it forces everyone to race for boats. (One problem is that with the new Tasks and minor wonders added in the expansion it makes Roving Clans early market access super powerful, since they aren't reliant on quests to get Titanium or G.Steel.)

[@charlx8979]

both endless games and their dlc is on sale, so if you thought it wasnt worth picking up unless its on sale here it is

[@Ghostneedle1]

I don't think I ever batted an eyelid at this game until it was on sale because this plus all the dlc was a crazy price. Even on sale I got it for over £20 but that's a very good price. I'm excited for endless space 2 when it's finished.

[@fearsomefuture7496]

Loving it! Btw how's Simon and when will he be back?

[@YouAreAsleep]

So damn helpful! Thank you Lewis and KirinDave!

[@RatKing1312]

I'm really enjoying this!

[@TheRookie121]

I would love to see a video series that explain the Broken Lords. I love playing as them, they are my go to race to play.

[@megamanencyclopedia]

yes they finally took it off advanced :D i'm so so happy, thank- THANK YOU DAVE

[@dongquixote481]

Could KirinDave have an Avatar by teutron please?

[@svyatoslavrurikovich8831]

Franklinstien 654 He isn't part of the yogscast though, UNFORTUNATELY.

[@hypnokitten6450]

Personally I kinda like longer games when it comes to strategy so don't think that's a downside - though I also don't play grand-strategy games as multiplayer. It wouldn't make sense to me - 'fast' is almost by definition tactical. FPS games, quick-tactics like Dawn of War and Starcraft. Grand Strategy is supposed to be... well, 'Grand'. I want a story that will grow for days or weeks, a quest like that will keep going and that I can dream about in between games. I think all the long.. repeated.. over and over.. negativity against this being an actual 'grand strategy' game kinda has me sold, I'll grab it tonight! :D

[@mosselliadelt]

Could you guys do a play through of Pandoras other game Endless Space?

[@Fredreegz]

What Dave said around 5:20 about Faction difficulty and how players can be practically knocked out of the running because of them is something I wish the Yogs would pick up on when they do future Endless Legend / Civ games. I want to watch five human beings pit themselves against each other in these games, rather than watch five people individually deal with Factions/Barbarians. Also, a lack of Barbarians (as seen in that Datlof live streamed game) means everyone is on much more equal footing further into the game, rather than a clear winner emerging by the end of the early game. These multiplayer turn-based strategy series are fantastic, but they can get a bit formulaic, and one way to rectify that would be to turn down the difficulty of factions/barbs - if not off completely - because they really polarise who is doing well and who is not and make the whole game a little bit more predictable.

[@jerrypower7358]

Now he is Dave! Yognaught

[@banjojim6816]

"Im way more afraid of the necrophages because they desire your corpses" -KirinDave

[@qazwsx-jn8gd]

currently 85% off at steam 11bucks for the whole collection! I'm going to bu this game for sure!

[@WhimsyHeath]

so Dave, which faction is your favorite?

[@bombshellblonde544]

So, in my first game, I knew literally nothing, so I picked the Ardent Mages because they have a cool picture and I didn't bother looking at race abilities. I chose to focus on science because that's really effective and important in Civ 5, so I thought it might carry over. As it turns out, I accidentally chose to play to my strength. I wish they'd explained a bit more about the Cultists. In the same game, my fiancé chose to play them, and he's terribly confused.

[@gammafighter]

+bombshellblonde544 Unfortunately, part of the trade-off of having a deep and complex game is a steep learning curve. I haven't played much EL in the year since I bought it, but I've recently been watching youtube guides and now i'm hooked. I just leave the videos running while i'm doing dishes or folding laundry and get hyped to play again with a whole new appreciation.

[@Artosk]

my advice , check the minimum requirements before you buy it, i didnt and my monitor's resolution is too low, so a huge portion of the interface is cut off

[@TheYoungWolfI]

Hey I'm new to this game and the only other 4x game I've played is Civ5. How important is "approval"? Is it different for each city, or is it the same across your empire? Is it like happiness in Civ5, where it's arguably the most important resource, since an unhappy civ cripples all the others (science, gold, production)? And how important is "influence"? What all does it do? Lastly, is there any reason not to expand? Is it the more regions you take the better? I assume you don't want to expand too fast due to things like "approval"? But do you want to take as much land as possible overall always? PS. you call them "Wind Wakers" because you're a Zelda fan? I dunno, because Link also wears green? lol

[@Pikachu790]

This is extremely late, but hey, still better to get an answer lol. Your "approval" rating is like Happiness in civilization, where you have to balance out your expansion disapproval with the approval rating generated by buildings in your empire, along with trying to level districts up to level 2 to get rid of that disapproval as well. Basically, it is a check in place to make sure you don't expand too quickly. As for Influence, it's used for 2 things; Empire Plans and Diplomatic actions. Empire plans are where they're mostly spent on, since they give bonuses for quite a few turns after you set them, but they also get more expensive the more you expand. Diplomatic actions are just that, diplomatic actions. You have to have enough influence to be at peace with someone (along with the requisite research of course), as well as doing various other things. It's important for all factions really, just some of them can generate it better than others (Drakken and Cultists, though the latter is because they need influence so they just make their workers generate fucktons of influence to fuel the conversions.) As for needing to expand, it's usually best to take into account if you can handle the expansion. Early on, you can't expand too fast since you can't build many buildings for approval generation, but later on, you get technologies that gives both approval buildings and reduced expansion disapproval, up to 50% with the technology in Era 5. However, again, it's all up to you since you can still build tall (heck, some factions can't expand easily or at all, so they build tall out of necessity). Sorry for lack of paragraphs, google likes to think my Enter keypresses don't make paragraphs.

[@SierraManiac]

Déjà vu. I have the feeling I already saw this.

[@jollyvoqar195]

Man, I'm looking for a good guide for this but I could give a flying dook about multiplayer. I can't for the life of me ever figure out why anybody would play TBS MP when there are oodles of MP games out there. insanity.

[@ccdaven81]

Hey Lewis, could you please add an "Uploads" section to the channel? I had no idea these videos were even happening. :(

[@dramacus488]

the minor factions man i 1v1 my friend in this game a few times were both new in it but everytime we fight the minor factions (he puts them on normal) they just attack me all game so it delays me as he just builds freely cause they neverrr attack him for some reason

[@sirspoonyTV]

Awesome video, made me want to play :P

[@basbruines890]

what should i get first this or civ 5 i plan on getting both and i am new to these type of games

[@beardetmonkey]

Civ, its a LOT simpeler.

[@basbruines890]

i do get that and ive seen all of the games done by the yogs but still im getting to take a liking to endless legend a bit more even when ive only seen one game

[@SRaitsa]

Bas Bruines While I really enjoy this game myself, for a person that is new to 4X strategy games I would have to suggest Civ 5. That game was made to introduce the more casual gamer into the genre.

[@beardetmonkey]

Well, its your choice ofcourse but if your new to 4x games, you'll probably get very confused

[@basbruines890]

when i get a new laptop in a month il see what new updates came out for both games and then il dicide

[@idunnomane]

Ami the only one that would like to see them play Europa universalis 4???

[@123kenny20]

civ plz

[@Slouworker]

Fuck civ.

[@123kenny20]

They made a civ channel for civ, so why are you even here

[@A_Ereira]

the real Naruto Strange that you're on a video that's not Civ, despite claiming that they made this channel for Civ.

[@123kenny20]

just to ask for more civ before i unsub lol perfect logical considering i am subs to a civ channel

[@PokemonFan5454312]

the real Naruto The grammar has made me lose 75% of my braincells.

[@VintageLJ]

Now play Dwarf Fortress :P

[@KirinDave]

VintageLJ Please.

[@Satan360100]

Dave Fayram My god I'd love to see you attempt to walk Lewis through Dwarf Fortress. Please make it happen if you can/.

[@KirinDave]

Satan360100 He says he's played before but I think the graphics hang people up. My playthrough and tutorial seems very popular in the DF community now, which I am very proud of. :)

[@Octagonalish]

Dave Fayram They could try playing with stonesense, that would make it a bit more palatable visually.

[@finzer2]

VintageLJ Ugh, change your profile picture please *vomits*

[@ElzariusUnity]

I prefer Broken Lords. Expand? Dust it. War? Dust it.

[@benhuber2169]

They have broken in the name for a reason. I would say they are the most straightforward to play which is why they seem overpowered. So a new player playing as broken lords would have an easy time My favorite is Drakken, 'cause Drakken says no.

[@comocedran]

Ben Huber

[@ElzariusUnity]

Ben Huber lol. Attack them right after Empire planing and they won't stop you.

[@JoyandSerenity.]

Wow.. bought game in steam sale and need to know how to play. First tutorial I look up its LEWIS.

[@charlx8979]

yep thats whats happening to me right now, just bought it and this was first result on youtube

[@jackwest1216]

I got an economy victory with vaulters.

[@daveidd]

FOR THE NEXT CIV GAME BRING SIPS BACK!

[@alexadamson1948]

8:40 The Legend Of Zelda The Wind Waker

[@konradasraciunas3335]

like civ is based on norrmal or longer :(

[@Squalidarity]

This game is everything Civ should be (sans fantasy setting).

[@truepowergaming6018]

Start new civ series pls

[@SlevinCCX]

Just... what... huh?! This video was published in 2015, Endless Space 2 came out in 2017... How did you enjoy a game 2 years before it was released? 0:31

[@WeirdDud_]

Late, but probably was "Endless Space, too."

[@IANF126]

"forget to press end turn" geee i wonder who does that :^)

[@TheHockeyboy24121996]

That legend of Zelda reference. The wind wakers

[@SithBowman]

By the looks of it, there's not going to be any Guardians DLC in these Guide videos, which is a shame, because the way that you play it ends up being different, especially for Vaulters and Cultists, and to a lesser extent the Wild Walkers

[@KirinDave]

SithBowman We recorded these in reverse order, but consider this a primer on *basic* mechanics. As you will see, Lewis didn't know about happiness modifiers, etc.

[@nifdoowo]

SithBowman Yeah, they said in the first Guardians DLC video that they recorded these before the DLC was released, which is a shame.

[@SithBowman]

Dave Fayram Although having the videos that way around did inspire me to play as the Vaulters using the Guardians DLC, and got all the Guardians up and running by turn 140 (Normal speed on Normal diff.), kinda helped by the fact that my starting area had Titanium and Glassteel and got all the wonder districts from Eras 1, 2 and 3 (even though I was against 2 Wild Walker factions). Note: The Water Guardian is OP, Equipping it with a free counter and the weapon that allows a charge ability which increases damage if moved and by how much (combined with +4 movement on units policy), meant that the water guardian had a damage of around 270-300 raising to over 500 with full movement charge, meaning any Non-Capital could be taken out easily due to the way it attacks (in a wave, as long as enemies are next to eachother) and completely clears all fortification bonuses if you didn't siege the city.

[@KirinDave]

SithBowman Yeah the water guardian is designed to kill cities without a siege. It's amazing. Hard party is getting it to the enemy city.

[@SithBowman]

Dave Fayram That's part of the reason why I opted for the +4 Movement empire plan, It gives it a movement of 10, and the reduced movement cost for rivers helps a little bit (unless your against Drakken who constantly close borders and stop wars)

[@tristanrobinson7929]

BRING BACK CIV 5!

[@ahmadhegazi8250]

It's not like they've suddenly just made this channel an endless legends channel, theyre just looking at a civ-like game for a bit. I like it, personally. I was wondering if i should get this game, and this is the best way for me to find out

[@ssjwes]

Ahmad Hegazi I got it a while back when they played it. Its fun but you have to get used to it.

[@Adjutat0r]

Dave! Yognaut

[@nicwright6526]

First off. You don’t know where Wind Waker comes from? Come on. This is my sum up of this video. OP: “ I think you’re wrong because when we played we found this blah blah” Guest: “No. that’s just because in your game you weren’t played right, hence why I’m here.”

[@Nihiliste-]

Long story short: Recommended or not?

[@Artorias1234]

I bought it and it's great!It's even on sale in Steam, you should buy it!

[@AdaWongMistress]

i´m poor now. Bought so many strategy games this steam sale endless legend is the one i liked the most, even better than civ5 , and civ 5 is awesome. And they we have the epic age of empires games

[@Artorias1234]

AdaWongMistress I love Strategy Games too, which ones did you buyed?

[@AdaWongMistress]

Ein Simsala age of mythology ( i lost my cd), age of wonders 3, dungeon 2, dungeon 3 and i will try total war:warhammer

[@Artorias1234]

AdaWongMistress Try Hearts of Iron IV(A WWII game, where Asia is a important place!)

[@lacryman5541]

Louis is that you ?

[@sirblockepicmcswaggins5248]

necrophages best faction

[@madman10340]

PLAY EU4 WHY THIS AND CIV AND NO EU4?!

[@madman10340]

***** BURN DOWN THE BIG BLUE BLOB!

[@danturner1104]

Wind Waker is a Zelda title

[@thezekta3139]

So Endless Legend is one of the less well received things on this channel, and the Civ V strategy guide they did, was also one of the less well received things, so the obviously solution is to mix two and see if it makes it any better.

[@Fithvial]

Wild...Walkers...WILD not WIND...

[@TeshnosFire]

Seriously? First the host comments about games on normal taking too long, then at 6:20 comments that he doesn't want people to get going fast due to weak minor factions. This purely contrarian approach to whatever the guest is saying so far as to even contradict yourself is very weird. 0_o

[@TheHmuma]

No more endless legend More civ

[@midastheunwise2423]

In my experience in this game, initiative is the be all and end all. Since a unit essentially loses its action if it is attacked first (and typically cannot use its ability, e.g. Beam if they counterattack), the fastest-acting units dictate combat. I had a super strong army, but it was made absolutely worthless when I faced a friend who had faster, weaker units, simply because his could dictate who fought who (favourable matchups), and his actually got to use their special abilities as a result. This game could be great, but the combat is cripplingly bad, and means I never want to play it again, and have no investment in these videos either :(

[@SRaitsa]

Count Lieberkuhn Telsem Warlocks care not for your initiative.

[@AndreasWinkler83]

So wrong.

[@midastheunwise2423]

Andreas Winkler At least tell me how I'm wrong then? Because combat is single-handedly ruining this game for me, and I'd rather it didn't.

[@KirinDave]

Count Lieberkuhn There are a few ways its wrong. In the case of Telsem warlocks, once the AMs get Stun that happens outside of initiative and you aren't moving. Secondly, in many cases the deployer of a slower and defensive army can recognize this and deploy carefully around their reinforcement points. If you haven't SPECIFICALLY prepared with a _____ Slayer for that unit, odds are it's bad. But early on in the game's development that was absolutely true. That's why ranged damage got so massively nerfed.

[@midastheunwise2423]

How does one get to swarm reinforcement points with counter units then? I have found that units such as the Urces are easily wrapped up with faster units before they have a chance to move in close enough (or at all) in order to lock down reinforcements, assuming equal numbers. Keep in mind this is entirely based on multiplayer experience, but I personally find that rocking defensive armies and then having the enemy dictate combat enough for my tactical decisions not to feel meaningful is frustrating. I get that I can fight fire with fire here, but I don't think my personal playstyle (defensive, reactionary) is particularly well-catered to, at least from my personal experience. I am also notoriously unlucky when it comes to RNG elements in games, but that is not the fault of the game :p

[@aidanandrews8088]

This channel is called Civilization..... Play civilization on it

[@micheltemer3625]

No Lewis. It's pronounced 'merica.

[@sorenanders9302]

Is it just me who hates endless legend and thinks its a terrible rip off of civilisation ?

[@gammafighter]

+Soren Anders Yes.

[@MrRageQuitChicken]

Don't tell me Dave is gonna comment on every single comment on this video as well.

[@thomasveenstra5147]

MrRageQuitChicken Dave is gonna comment on every single comment on this video as well.

[@bradley2342]

MrRageQuitChicken Maybe if you didn't make such obnoxious comments like a prick, he wouldn't have to.

[@KirinDave]

MrRageQuitChicken Look sir, my daughter is asleep in my lap. I'm bored.

[@Hopeofmen]

Cultists...gosh, I hate the Cultists...

[@Anglo-Brit]

This is clearly modded.

[@stjani1111]

first

[@VintageLJ]

stjani1111 WASTE OF OXYGEN

[@ruiptaurus33]

if this is a guide, then iam Trump!

[@CABRALFAN27]

Why the hell is this on the Civ channel? The channel is literally called "Civilization", not "Civilization and other similar strategy games. Actually, y'know what? Let's just post everything we don't want on our main channels here.".

[@GoodGarret777]

Y do u hef to be med?

[@CABRALFAN27]

Kieran Moran I just hef 2.

[@GoodGarret777]

CABRALFAN27 but y

[@florislokhorst119]

second -_-

[@nonfinale685]

floris lokhorst counting isnt your strong suit, is it?

[@VintageLJ]

floris lokhorst WASTE OF OXYGEN

[@theswedishdude1]

so no civ for 2 weeks and all we get is guides about endless legend...? ffs