Enemy Mine - re:View

[@gunstarhero8028]

I'm worried about Mike... Jay had to prompt him to talk about Star Trek.

[@allhailourmediaoverlords7824]

Grandpa Mike needed some nostalgia time.

[@seraphcutie8457]

Dementia setting in

[@Bacteriophagebs]

And when he did, he didn't even mention "Darmok."

[@DFDragoon]

@@Bacteriophagebs Ngl... When he didn't it kinda shook me. I thought for sure that would be the immediate Mike answer, but... Wow. I mean. After the first public apology for the missed joke, I get it but still. Makes ya wonder if real Mike or replacement Romu-Mike. Scary times.

[@bmbougie]

@@Bacteriophagebs Re:View, when Mike doesn't mention Star Trek, our heads lowered.

[@boredmonkee]

I'm glad Mike addressed his missed joke. Now we can begin to heal.

[@sir0nion]

#notagain #thoughtsandprayers #prayforinsertyourcityhere

[@mikeyblag]

Silence of the Enemy Land (Lamb) Mine.

[@danielmead146]

he has a lot of missed jokes. this was only the most badly missed one.

[@tentrain]

@@sir0nion #insertcitystrong

[@dataphoenix8004]

is he making fun of someone

[@Fallingsnow57]

Back in the 2000s I was at a scifi convention in Denver with a theater in it. Enemy Mine was showing with opening statements by the author of the book. He stood up and proceeded to bash and insult the movie and the people who made it for fifteen minutes and then left before it started. It was an enjoyable introduction.

[@Popcultureguy3000]

… But aside from the wonky spaceship affects and design and the tacked-on third act conflict, it was a good adaptation that made a point to make sure everyone understood it’s message. He sounds very hard to please.

[@TroySpace]

Kind of like Joe Haldeman and Robot Jox. Another terrible 80s scifi movie that I love.

[@Hemostat]

Love the fact the author is named longyear. What a star wars name. Reminds me of ray Bradbury fighting with college students over what Fahrenheit 451 is about

[@martyjehovah]

@@Popcultureguy3000 I mean I get it, it's his story, he probably carried it internally for literal years, adding and subtracting. Hell he probably has 10 times more story and detail about it in his head as he ever put to paper. But at the same time, I think if you're gonna release a story into the wild, and especially if you are going to hand it off to a stranger to adapt to another medium, then for your own sanity you've gotta let go of it to a pretty great degree. You can obviously make yourself available to fill in gaps if the adapting party wishes, but you've basically got to draw a line in the sand between what is "yours" that you feel connected to and responsible for, and what6 is "theirs" which is the audiences interpretation, as well as the adapting party's additions/subtractions/changes. If you can't draw that line and stick to it, then you should probably say no to any adaptations.

[@530skeptic]

@@martyjehovah Pretty thoughtful response, dude.

[@mrredherring2900]

"I created a little comic strip about a mime serial killer." - Jay , being Jay.

[@marc-antoinemarcoux697]

and that is still better than Space cop

[@rudeboyjohn3483]

@@marc-antoinemarcoux697 "Our movies are terrible!" -Jay

[@scottieman2]

I'd watch it.

[@Bayofthe91st]

Directed by David Lynch

[@whatdothlife4660]

He's a classic Sex-Pervert.

[@Olematonnimi]

RLM trolling us. How am I supposed to have an opinion on Dune without knowing what Mike thinks?

[@johnpanicker7590]

Why do I feel like they really hate it

[@scottycheesecake]

To be fair I have no taste and his brain is the size of a house

[@roncarv1121]

What episode of star trek did Dune rip off? We need to know.

[@marc-antoinemarcoux697]

They have a lot of editing to do, I can easily imagine Mike referencing to Star Trek all the time because it's science fiction and I can imagine Jay mentionning David Lynch's version every single minute. I can also imagine Rich Evans having to dress as the sandworm

[@shadymcnasty5920]

@@roncarv1121 star trek ripped of Dune actually

[@mrEllisb15]

In enemy mime there should be an interrogation scene where the mime won't give them anything, but then they realise it's because his hands are cuffed so he can't mime

[@mixmastaart]

Eagerly looking forward to the 15-second Dune review in their end-of-year wrap-up video.

[@mattmattigan5036]

Mike: "I really enjoyed it." Jay: "Yeah, me too, good movie....anywho, moving on"

[@ewwpoorpeople5684]

"Dune was a movie about Dunes. Ok play the outro"

[@artemshukaev3460]

@SpicyWeiner777 actually, it's about family, and that's what's so powerful about it

[@amiibler]

@@artemshukaev3460 No you fool it's about a half Darth Maul with a robot bottom.

[@luiginastro8831]

@@ewwpoorpeople5684 No, it's about SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE

[@omegalpha777]

Mike Stoklasa: Dementia Rich Evans: Diabetes Jay Bauman: Depression

[@mannydipresso3540]

the three boomer horsemen of youtube film criticism

[@Necron1999]

And with their powers combined they form together to become…Mike Stoklasa.

[@clintronious]

Would change Jay’s to “Depravity”

[@mabusestestament]

Triple D

[@chismous]

The ultimate 3D experience

[@DimensionO]

I never comment, but it’s long overdue. I haven’t had anyone to discuss films with in depth since I left college. Thanks for helping me through this void in my life for all these years.

[@charlottecorday8494]

You're welcome Christopher! Glad we can help!

[@bhopcsgo7172]

@@charlottecorday8494 who are you?

[@ffandbffan]

The apology for missing the “silence” joke killed me. Also kind of hoped this was going to end up being a 45 minute video of Mike just workshopping Enemy Mime.

[@AuDHDarling]

I would say I want them to create Enemy Mime ... but after seeing what Space Cop did to them, I don't think they'd survive it.

[@zigotina]

@@cartoonking1789 why calling them idiots

[@ohnosmoarlulcatz]

Those mimes need to have real superpowers and the final battle should be between the two mimes trying to duke it out with everything from finger bullets and invisible walls

[@Viceroy_Sundercles_III]

I had to pause and rewind the video to watch it again because I was laughing so hard. I seriously cannot remember the last time I laughed so much.

[@decorumlopez9147]

@@zigotina why would you ever doubt our favourite hack frauds?

[@roarksjuror4752]

I love how other KZbin reviewers are rushing to be the first within their Dune reviews to be relevant. Meanwhile RLM just says fuck it. Let’s do Enemy Mine.

[@kael13]

Yet they love to review every dull superhero movie out there...

[@sahilchawlaa]

but still grany of star wars needs rlm

[@toggtlas7099]

@@kael13 Right, how dare they review the blockbuster films people are talking about rather than the one you specifically wanted them to talk about? Who do they think they are? (Also you're wrong they didn't review all the Marvel movies, they skipped Ant-Man and The Wasp, Spider-Man: Far from Home, Shang-Chi...)

[@Halauris]

@@kael13 I’m sure they’ll get to it it’s probably just taking more time.

[@arbaltgerbalt7712]

@@Halauris I wouldn't be so sure because they did this kind of tiny skit multiple times about popular movies they had no interest in and indeed skipped only to talk about some niche netflix shit or something. Usually said movies were not nearly as anticipated by their audience, it does feel rather weird that both of them have nothing interesting to say about Dune it seems since they typically like sci-fi.

[@Rickyfingers]

Back in 1985 I went to the theatre to see The Color Purple because we were reading it in school. Wound up sneaking in to see Enemy Mine, Clue AND Jewel of the Nile. It was a great day at the movies.

[@Jorquavious]

You’re so oooooold

[@tarman47]

I’m glad I’m not the only one that has no problem with spending several hours in a theatre. I’m that guy that is terribly disappointed if a movie isn’t 2 1/2 hours long.

[@altmarket]

The studio originally tried to get Terry Gilliam to direct this movie because he was considered the up and coming A-lister in fantasy at the time. He turned them down because he said he had a much better script. The script was for Brazil. The studio just handed him the budget and final cut. When they saw the end result they tried to bury Brazil completely and refused to release it. He had to release it covertly to critics and it ended up being nominated for a bunch of awards even though no one had seen it in a theater, forcing the studio to distribute the film out of embarrassment. It all started with Enemy Mine.

[@mitchellhoward3209]

I mean it sounds like enemy mine was just happening at the same time and he was gonna take Brazil anyway? Or am I misunderstanding

[@butchjohnson9736]

Brazil was the much better film after all.

[@JrIcify]

@Socucius Ergalla And they were dead set on proving to everyone how little money they could make

[@aarondavis8943]

So contrary to what so many people (including this channel on occasion) say about how terrible the studio system is today, it's always been this same. There's nothing new under the sun.

[@altmarket]

@@mitchellhoward3209 Gilliam turned down Enemy Mine as a power play to get funding for Brazil, which was his own script. The studio was so baffled by him dropping Enemy Mine that they figured whatever script he had must have been epic, which was true, in a way.

[@Nakna_ankaN]

They also missed the obvious joke about the mime in interrogation exercising his right to remain silent.

[@holycow818181]

There are so many ways you could milk the premise. I imagine the buddy cops going into the serial killer's hideout. "It's quiet... too quiet."

[@erravi]

LMAO this is too good

[@PeterSTIHL]

Also missed another star trek reference; kid who played Zammis also was Jem' Hadar kid on DS9.

[@tycho_m]

how would you mime pleading the 5th?

[@Nakna_ankaN]

@@tycho_m Simple; first put your hands together like you're praying, then hold up your hand with five fingers showing and then do a zipper motion over your mouth.

[@rocko7711]

I really respect you guys for talking about movies you care about, instead of chasing the latest trends

[@Scribbled_Death]

3 mins of just insane babbling about mimes, this era of Mike's sanity is a golden age

[@jennanyx4968]

Its almost a talent

[@Myrth1]

I was actually expecting this will never stop and the whole video is going to be one big joke

[@pyro380]

And it's only getting worse with age. Lots to look forward to.

[@joestorywrestler20]

It’s been slipping for years and I’ve loved every second

[@larrylaffer3246]

RLM needs to make the Serial Killer Mime Movie reality. It obviously needs to be called Mime-lent Night, Deadly Night.

[@Nifava]

I like how RLM are perfectly aware of how disappointing they are.

[@frankmerker630]

They also read the comments and take particular enjoyment in trolling their audience

[@greggstrasser5791]

@@frankmerker630 I got something those hacks can troll.

[@Polskimg]

That's why they never disappoint.

[@sloancostella2772]

Kind of SUCKS how we cannot discuss, or even so much as HEAR about ANY g@%damn movie WITHOUT hearing the f#@%!ng word "remake" anymore.

[@haggus71]

Hell in the Pacific, the late 60s, with Lee Marvin and Toshiro Mifune, was about an imperial Japanese soldier and US fighter pilot stranded together on an island. Two excellent actors portraying their former roles in WWII, Marvin a former Marine and Mifune a soldier in the air service branch.

[@Etherman7]

My grandfather died some years back, and when we went through his stuff there was a Conversational German book from the 1930s. It had the imperial seal of Japan inside, and notes written in English, Japanese and German in the margins. From the looks of it, at some point during ww2 he and a Japanese man taught each other how to speak some of each other's language using German as a common tongue. It's a really cool little piece of humanity from such a terrible point in time. Don't think they raised an asexual butt baby though.

[@blankblank3553]

How you know they didn’t? It was different time…… ha!

[@payaori7809]

How many fingers do you have?

[@stargazerspark4499]

Reminds me of "Hell in the Pacific", a movie starring Lee Marvin and Toshiro Mifune set during WW2 with a very similar premise.

[@Etherman7]

@@payaori7809 Three. Doesn't everyone?

[@cont600ml]

this is super cool thak you for sharing

[@swordmonkey6635]

My high school art teacher helped do some of the special effects for Enemy Mine. He took time off from teaching and worked on House 2, The Golden Child, Howard The Duck, The Fly and Enemy Mine. He brought some of the alien prosthetics in to show us. One was a face application and the other was one of the hands. Pretty cool stuff. Plus we got to watch the movies in class so that was cool.

[@Louis-wp3fq]

That's badass!

[@Wesblumarine]

Super badass!

[@shannonbayley3684]

So damn cool buddy 👌

[@larrylaffer3246]

Totally Radical Dude.

[@WildBluntHickok]

Wish I could say I worked on special effects for Howard The Duck

[@SuperShelley27]

My dad always picked this movie, thinking we hadn't seen it. Multiple times he came home with this great new movie for us to watch lol

[@Goshdarnet]

How on earth Mike sat for a full 45 minutes and did not say the word "Darmok" once had shaken me to my very core. Mike, blink twice if Jay has you hostage.

[@TheToonMonkey]

9 seconds in and Mike hasn't said "Shaka, when the walls fell". This can't be right.

[@mtherfurth]

Sorry to say, they don't even mention Temba, his arms wide.

[@Miketar2424]

Alas, Zinda, his eyes red.

[@dwhutto]

I wanted him to talk about the wild episode from Voyager called "Threshold" where Janeway devolves into a slug creature and has an alien baby on a beach. :(

[@nenirouvelliv]

At Tenagra.

[@thevasic]

I agree...Mike's mental decline is never more present as to not be able to immediately reference Season 5; Episode 2 "Darmok" as a Enemy Mine tie in.

[@8584zender]

I seriously laughed out loud at the studio having to insert a physical mine into to the movie because they though the audience wouldn't understand the possessive "mine" in the title.

[@Otokichi786]

Yep, Third Officer Ripley, "IQs have dropped sharply among Hollyweird executives."

[@hayberdasher8625]

It's because there was a studio executive who was so stupid he thought there was a mine of enemies

[@koanikal]

no kidding, even at 9 or 10 when I watched it in the theater, I knew it was the possessive form of "mine". I didn't even realize the stupidity of having a literal mine in the movie, until I watched this Re:View.

[@Schlorb-Lord-of-Schlirb]

​@hayberdasher8625 Well, that's Nepotism for you

[@artfullofjoydanceandcreati7162]

There's a movie scene that haunts me, it's so beautiful and sad, and powerful. Louis Gosset Jr.'s character is dying, and Dennis Quaid's just says, "you can't die and leave me here all alone." Gosset says so powerfully, perfectly, "you are alone. In yourself, you're alone." Cinema at its finest.

[@nivekleveb8872]

That's the only scene I remembered with any clarity from this movie. Louis Gosset Jr was killing it in shlock parts back then (see also the jail scene with Frank Castle in the 80s Punisher film)

[@GoetiaTV]

@@nivekleveb8872 I knew him by name because of Enemy Mine and Iron Eagle. Big movies of my childhood 😁

[@Grubnar]

It is hilarious how Quaid's character is just a stupid jerk at the beginning. So stupid that he doesn't realize that he is stupid! But then he is forced to mature and starts to understand that he needs to become better person. It is like he starts of as a character from Starship Troopers (the film) and at the end he has been transformed into a Star Trek character!

[@aararqaae6451]

Have you read the book?

[@Zap_R0sdower]

That's the most sincere Mike Stoklasa has ever been on this channel.

[@genewitch]

there was that time he had to edit out his tears because of Bill Shatner

[@moonverine]

One of the movies Mike is thinking of at 40:00 would be Hell on the Pacific. Lee Marvin and Toshiro Mifune are stranded on an island during WW2. Really good flick, and has the same pacing as Enemy Mine.

[@mikesanborn4541]

I was looking for someone to mention this, good catch.

[@douglasjohnson4382]

This is the most important comment here.

[@Eisenwulf666]

Enemy mine is a sci-fi remake of that movie, it's incredibly similar both in premise and in some scenes. I saw Hell in the Pacific years before i saw Enemy Mine and i thought :" wow, somebody is getting sued.."

[@Davvg]

mike, his brain clouded; darmok unmentioned.

[@uJemai]

Trolling the fans, this is why I really enjoy RLM content.

[@poppers7317]

Yeah, Jays pronunciation of "Das Boot" triggered the hell out of me.

[@Rejukem]

It's the Ishtar Holiday Special all over again!

[@aarondavis8943]

That's a very particular taste in content you got going on there. You must be disappointed with most of their videos.

[@usulsk]

@@rabd3721 Uhm... I care (just to see what they think of it)

[@Davis30b]

@@rabd3721 Most redletttermedia fans care for a Dune review that is why the joke and trolling works so well.

[@v.m.9198]

According to the book, dracs self impregnate when they're in a state of emotional calm and comfort which means that there was real affection there. Also the book has sequels but they are both weird and interesting.

[@godlaydying]

The original story 'Enemy Mine' is really good. The story ending is that they get rescued and the war's over, but the two species still hate each other. The alien child is considered mentally ill by the other aliens for not hating humans enough. The human goes to the alien home planet in order to perform a ritual which is supposed to be a big part of an alien's life, where they recite all of their known ancestry, on the alien's behalf. This becomes a big moment of reconciliation between the two species.

[@Batchall_Accepted]

I haven't read a ton of his stuff but Asimov's stories always seem to have a lot of neuance to them

[@Xeno426]

Pretty neat. Kinda wish we could have had that ending. Or a hybrid of what we got, to flesh out the ending better.

[@godlaydying]

@@Batchall_Accepted It isn't by Asimov, by the way. It was just published in a magazine that used his name.

[@CrabSpirits]

But how can bad guy into meat grinder?

[@talkinghoorse6936]

You mean there's no evil miners? 0/10

[@ikenosis8160]

“Your ‘Mickey mouse’ is a big DOPE!” This movie was way ahead of its time.

[@aararqaae6451]

The book was. It was actually brilliant

[@ErikLosLobos]

It's only a matter of time before Disney have the rights and remove that line

[@mar10ssj1]

No one crosses the House of Mouse.

[@fr1arlaurence492]

jeff!

[@ikenosis8160]

@@fr1arlaurence492 Larry! We win again! In internetteland!

[@HpArtcraft]

There's actually a StarGATE episode called Enemy Mine, where the SGC are mining and encounter an alien race that they see as hostile, but Daniel Jackson resolves the conflict because of a friendship he developed in an earlier episode where he was stranded with one of those aliens and they learn each others language and become friends. The alien race even has a similar look.

[@colind5]

That episode also involves mining

[@Tetragrammaton22]

That episode stars the arrow guy from guardians of the galaxy, and like most SG1 episodes it takes place somewhere in the rocky mountains.

[@verlorenModus]

Shaka!

[@knowthycell]

I can’t believe they ripped off SG1

[@bsodcat]

Darmok and ghilad at tenagra.

[@unspeakablescourge]

I wish Mike watched more DS9. Cause there are so many camping with the enemy type episodes. Camping with Jemhedar, camping with Vorta, like 4 characters on separate occasions camp with Dukat.

[@josiahbahuaud2294]

The best being when Kira has to take that thorn out of his ass. 🤣🤣🤣

[@LLAP2266]

Mike has watched DS9, he said before his favorite Star Trek character is Quark

[@JohnnyZenith]

DS9 is a genius series. Garak is the best.

[@anonym4881]

Looks like ST:Enterprise episode Dawn.

[@Alconium]

@@anonym4881 The writers literally admitted they went. "We should do Enemy Mine." and straight ripped the movie bottom to top, it wasn't even a "Camping with the enemy" episode, it was 110% "Can we do enemy Mine in 40 minutes?" "Yes."

[@zprospero4983]

How the hell did you get through this whole Re:View without referencing Darmok & Jalad at Tanagra? Shaka, when the falls fell, Mike.

[@Szokynyovics]

Jay masterfully managed Mike through it this way!

[@cruesome1971]

Chalk it up to Mike's Alzheimer's. His Star Trek knowledge is the first to go. This is so sad for him.

[@m.w.3264]

I was thinking of Darmok as well, but Darmok isn't really an Enemy Mine type situation. Picard and the Alien Captain have no animosity towards one another, nor does the Federation towards the Tamarians. Although the plan of the Tamarian Captain is basically to artificially remake Enemy Mine to make a connection.

[@zprospero4983]

@@m.w.3264 Yes, I agree. However, I often find myself remembering that TNG episode when I try to remember this movie, the general set up is very similar just with different motivations. It could be the depth of Mike's Star Trek knowledge that caused him not to think of it, as I only just recalled that Geordi & the Romulan episode.

[@baburik]

he already apologized for his dementia, what more, you cruel people, need? leave Mike alone! he's a human!

[@Heavymetalrille]

This is one of my favorite movies from when i was a kid and still is. I think it was misunderstood and underappreciated, not to many actually saw it. It is a wonderful movie, i still think it is, regardless of how it has aged or how some people nitpick about what it is not, instead of looking at what it is.

[@michaelbell6894]

I love these guys. I'm having a really hard time of late; and their videos never fail to make me smile.

[@VoyagerCSL]

Keep your chin up, buddy

[@donovaneckstrom]

Release the hour and a half long cut of Mike talking about Enemy Mimes.

[@Matazuma]

#RELEASETHEMIMESCUT

[@rrmenton8016]

You mean the alan smithee cut?

[@mwhite76]

The novelization had a much more satisfying ending…it was a combination of the original novella with elements from the film. In this the main character (Davidge) and the Dracs child have to face equal amounts of xenophobia from both the humans and the Dracs as he strives to have the child accepted back into the alien society. Eventually they overcome after it is shown that both embrace both cultures and Davidge is then included in the lineage of his adopted child. It has themes that are relatable to those who entered mixed race marriages during the pre-civil rights era.

[@carly7522]

I love that book so much, it has become kinda a right of passage in my family to read it as a teenager. I have never seen the movie though, kinda scared it'll ruined it's novelization for me.

[@josephmathes]

Mike: Rails against self for missing an obvious reference Also mike: Lists similar Star Trek episodes and forgets Darmok

[@0bleach0]

Maybe that's the joke? Nah... it couldn't be, they are hacks after all

[@AppiusOS]

Unfortunately Mike hasn't taken his brain medicine today

[@Warhammered]

And forgets the ENT episode that was almost a literal copy/paste, with Trip and the alien stranded on a planet.

[@rudeboyjohn3483]

@@Planag7 oof .. I chuckled at that lol

[@MisterBrimm]

WHEN THE WALLS FELL!!!!

[@post9025]

Cant wait for them to do a review on Lynch’s Dune and never talk about the new one

[@thetinmanify]

I'd actually love that. Maybe we can finally get to the bottom of why Patrick Stewart is carrying a pug into battle.

[@Arkygator]

They should review the Sci-fi Channel mini series. It's weirdly competent for not having a special effects budget.

[@THEGODDAMNDINOSAUR]

I totally understand why they won't review the new Dune. I saw it, its a technical marvel but I really don't have anything to say about it, it's all set up for the next one, the characters felt flat and the action is cool and thatsa bout it.

[@post9025]

@@THEGODDAMNDINOSAUR in a re:view format talking about both dunes (like how they handled the suspiria films) it could be interesting i suppose

[@THEGODDAMNDINOSAUR]

@@post9025 it could and I really don't mind if they just avoid it all together lol

[@dubya2621]

Without a doubt some of the best and most honest content on KZbin and the internet. Never stop, thank you all

[@recnepsrc]

Jay, you fool, you've made a grave mistake. You mentioned The Last Starfighter and now I have to request a Re:View of that movie.

[@heavycritic9554]

This was actually one of the fastest clicks you've ever gotten from me. I remember watching this, back in the late 80's, and quite liking it. Nobody else I know seems to remember it, though.

[@TheGlassesPush]

My family regularly says, "I did not mean to insult Mickey Mouse." This film is a gem.

[@h.a.9880]

Back when that was something said in irony. Nowadays, you never know with how bonkers Disney has become as a corporation, the Rat might as well be a deity with a following of cultists.

[@clintronious]

Mike - “I can name one right off the bat…” Jay - continues to talk so Mike cant riff about Star Trek for 45 minutes.

[@9Randompeoplz]

He knows we’ll click off the video otherwise

[@larrylaffer3246]

Jay's learning. He's been playing the long game, and has learned every trick in the book to trick Mike so he doesn't talk about Star Trek.

[@simonmarkhayes]

Rocks and Shoals from DS9 has some parallels for sure. Jay denied us the joy of Mike misremembering the names of all of the Dominion races / characters for 5 minutes.

[@TheValeyard92]

@glacier1982 Also The Enemy.

[@IndecentLouie]

@@9Randompeoplz And if by click off you mean continue watching and forgetting entirelly about Enemy Mine; then yes

[@ToumalRakesh]

I love how Mike just took Jay's childhood concept, turned it around 180 degrees, and instantly elevated it into what could be a cult movie.

[@hamfranky]

He missed that joke though, and for that I can't forgive him.

[@pl3459]

Ehh would've been better if he said the twist would be the mime was actually killing people and hiding from the police but he thought in his own crazy mind he was just miming.

[@DarkeningSkies1]

“Silence of the Mimes” must be made immediately.

[@alcohol-freebeer3642]

"...."

[@OrgaNik_Music]

It's gonna leave the critics speechless.

[@WilliamCWayne]

Sadly, 'Enemy Mime' has already been taken :(

[@aaronmcgowan5769]

My comment is pure theft, but the film is "Right to remain silent."

[@DarkeningSkies1]

That's the winner.

[@SubBrief]

The rushed ending could be to reduce the number of reels need for the film. Each theater needs it's own set of film reels across the country and global release. Limiting a production to 3 reels saves a lot of money over 4.

[@benniotto]

Woah didn’t think to see you here! Love your videos!

[@ezekielbrockmann114]

So they spent $40,000,000 (in early ’80s dollars) shooting what's effectively a "We Swear We're Not Gay" buddy dramedy in Morocco and then decided to save pennies on celluloid!? Okay, that checks out. It WAS The Cocaine 80s, after all!

[@Issicra]

Perhaps it was different in 1985, but the film is 108 minutes long, or 1 hour and 48 minutes. Films arrived at theaters in canisters containing sub-reels that were roughly 20 minutes each that were spliced together and put on full size 35mm reels. 3 sub-reels per reel, or 60 minutes each (or the whole film would fit on a platter if the theater had that system installed). Enemy Mine would have shipped in two canisters with a total of 6 sub-reels like any other movie that ran roughly the same amount of time.

[@kurtu5]

Why do I have a sudden hankering for information on twin hulled Soviet nuclear subs?

[@rbmk__1000]

Hi Aaron! Didn't think id see you here.

[@Matt42MSG]

In the original novel, there are no miners (as mentioned in the previous message): they're rescued, and the human begins to worry when he doesn't hear anything about his 'son'. He makes a journey to the Drac homeworld to find out what's happened, and discovered that the child has been committed to a mental institution and heavily drugged by the Drac government because he said he loved a human. The human manages to convince his friend's family that he actually cared about 'Jerry' by reciting his family lineage in full, which his father realizes he would never have taught a hostile human under any circumstances. The child's grandfather wasn't told his son had a child; government bureaucrats insist that they were waiting to tell him once the child had been 'cured' and would no longer be a shame to his family. The ending is basically the same, except the human returns to the planet to raise other Drac children at the request of the Drac, to end the inability of the two races to accept each other as people.

[@timothyoleksiak4952]

I loved this movie when I was a kid. Glad to see it’s being chatted about.

[@IronGoldie]

I actually really love this movie, flaws and all, so I'm glad to see it discussed here. The third act is definitely flawed studio shit, the author of the novella hated it. Mike should read the novella to see the original ending. Not only does it expand a bit more on the Drac culture, but it also expands on Earth too. It is much more inline with what he would have liked to have seen. The author also did two more stories in this universe, one about a human woman on the Drac planet called The Tomorrow Testament, and a sequel of Enemy Mine some thirty years later, called The Last Enemy, where Davidge still lives on the planet. Humans and Dracs have a sort of tense relationship in that story, but there are also humans and Dracs who are living together. It was a neat little ending to the story. I also agree that this could be good for a remake, with the right writer and director, leaving the original ending more intact.

[@mangolassi_.]

You know this is one of these movies that I think are perfect the way they are, even with what you could argue are flaws. I remember this movie having such a profound charismatic impact on me. Even when it's corny or a sequence doesn't look that great.

[@ace15Nura]

"A cute version of the easerhead's baby" is one of the "Jay-est" quotes ever.

[@mrredherring2900]

This and his "Mime serial killer comic strip" story.

[@WrecklessEating]

I remember seeing this on tv as a kid all the time. Pretty good stuff at least as young me remembered.

[@Based_n_Boredpilled]

My thoughts and prayers for Mike in his time of therapy. We have witnessed another RLM 9/11 moment, never forget.

[@informal_variant]

Reminds me of that tragedy...

[@anirudhgambhir1064]

He still can't remember 🥲🥲

[@idratherstayanonimous7020]

@@informal_variant I will walk through blood and bones to find out what tragedy you're talking about.

[@esoterra8050]

RLM 9/11, never forget!

[@Buford_T_Justice1]

Enemy Mine always reminded me of Hell in the Pacific with Lee Marvin and Toshiro Mifuni as two WW2 airmen stranded on a Pacific island after shooting eachother down.

[@scottfitzpatrick1939]

Totally

[@stampscapes]

Exactly. Hell in the Pacific in space.

[@geoffreyhdavey]

Scrolled down here to say the same thing.

[@VultureLivesAgain]

I'm about 15 minutes into the video. As soon as they mentioned the premise of Enemy Mine, my mind immediately went to Hell in the Pacific. But I guess they never mention the latter movie, huh?

[@leopoldbloom8243]

Thank you, RLM, for this review. I watched Enemy Mine more times than I can remember as a kid, thought I was the only one!

[@trapsnake6]

So, did Mike specifically not mention darmok in comparison to this movie as some sick troll to trigger me, or was it as some kind of meta joke follow-up to the demensia bit from earlier?

[@d_jedi1]

I came to make this exact comment

[@alecbaker51]

And no reference to Starship Mine!?

[@Davis30b]

Both ALL? Also it is to obvious and wanted to flex his ST knowledge. There are a couple other star trek episodes he could have mentioned especially from ds9.

[@scatman786]

He references near the start when Jay says it probably reminds you of Star Trek @4:45 but doesn’t name drop it.

[@DistractedGlobeGuy]

@@scatman786 nope. He's thinking of _The Enemy._

[@sartanawillpay7977]

The Galactica 1980 episode "The Return of Starbuck" had Starbuck stranded on a deserted planet with a Cylon and they learn to help and respect each other. This is the first time that I know of that John Boorman's 1969 "Hell in the Pacific" (with an WWII American and Japanese marooned on an island)was basically remade as Science Fiction.

[@johnsensebe3153]

TNG did this, too, with Geordi and a Romulan.

[@matthayward7889]

I saw ‘The return of starbuck’ and ‘enemy mine’ as a kid, and confused the two for the next 20 years in my mind

[@TheDJVoyager]

I'll rewatch anything you make literally hundreds of times.

[@Faenwolf]

Parts of the movie were shot in Germany - Bavaria Filmstudios. When I was a child (end of the eighties) I did a tour of the studios where they would let you re enact a scene in the original set. Funny to see your video now. Brings back memories 🙂

[@chuck.u.farley]

I also joined that tour back in the day, did you also took a ride on Fuchur from Neverending Story?

[@mrmiesfies3941]

I did the tour as a kid as well and the best part is not the Enemy Mine set. My favourite part was riding on the dragon from The Never Ending Story. The Dragon moved (a little bit) in front of a green screen and you could see yourself on a monitor soaring through the sky on Fuchurs back. I bet Jay would have loved that part. :D

[@butchjohnson9736]

I remember that. They also had a miniature of the submarine from Das Boot and some interior parts. There was a hallway from the only German science fiction movie (since Metropolis), forgot what it was called.

[@chuck.u.farley]

@@butchjohnson9736 I believe that was either from Roland Emmerichs 'moon 44' or 'operation Ganymed'

[@P3t3rminator]

@@butchjohnson9736 Wasn't that corridor also from enemy mine. It was the one with fully mirrored walls on each side where extras would wear clothing with different color on the back to make them look like two people and the hallway longer?

[@Mallerd]

That Mime Idea that they discussed is an actual scene from Detective Pikachu where they interrogate Mr. Mime

[@reizak8966]

That scene is gold. I wish the rest of the movie had been that creative.

[@zachmorris4622]

I was hoping someone had noticed, it immediately came to mind when he was pitching the scene

[@BurninatorTheTrogdor]

Jesus

[@andrewdunn8778]

@@reizak8966 I thought the movie was weirdly similar to Zootopia. Like, almost everything about it. It was the same movie, with different characters plugged into it

[@josiahbahuaud2294]

@@andrewdunn8778 YES!!!

[@darkhymnsfromthecoldnorth]

I've actually really been wanting to re-watch this lately, for no reason at all. Like I saw it as a kid, didnt think about it for 30 years, and like a month ago i popped in my head. This video shows how little i remember about it though. Think ill order a copy. Cheers, everyone.

[@Arkhigoul]

I did become a little upset when no 'Silence of the Lambs' pun was IMMEDIATELY made. Thank you RLM for addressing this so we can begin to move forward.

[@neszero]

Enemy Mine is severely underrated. Was a favorite of mine growing up.

[@hobermallow5841]

I always loved the double entendre of “Enemy Mine.” While the miners were comically evil, I cared so much for Uncle and Zommies that I was on the edge of my seat for all of those scenes. I love this movie.

[@beepster991]

The movie was remade in 2000 and called "Cast Away" with Tom Hanks. A friendship and survival story between a man and a volleyball working their differences.

[@anubusx]

Wilson!!!!

[@oscaroblivion6570]

That Tom Hanks movie was so beautiful, it tug at my heart strings: The way in which the volleyball eventually left Hanks to go off on its own to eventually be called "Brandon" and lead the people of America to a bright future.

[@mar10ssj1]

Wilson and Tom had to rely on each other's strengths to survive. I wept when Wilson sacrificed his own life so that Tom could go on. It is an OUTRAGE that Wilson did not win best supporting actor for his role. The Oscar's has been a shit-show ever since.

[@aarondavis8943]

@@mar10ssj1 I seriously did shed a tear in that scene. Movies are extraordinary; they can make you feel genuine sorrow for a man who has lost his volleyball.

[@bl1398]

Bin Laden listed the movie as one of his inspirations in his memoirs

[@deanthemachine8879]

Mike not mentioning the TNG episode “Darmok” has broken me [Rich Evans, on couch, staring into space]

[@dietarysupplement7976]

Seriously, what the f u c k?!? Way worse than whiffing on the Silence of the Lambs joke...

[@charliegray9195]

Criminal!

[@TheManPuntedBaxter]

It HAS to be trolling, right? Mike is such a contrarian, I can see him not mentioning it deliberately.

[@rattlejaw9976]

Shaka when the reference fell..

[@IrisCorven]

I am shocked. The Tamarian captain is very similar to Louis Gosset Jr.'s character, they have to work through their differences to survive a deadly scenario, AND there's the "cracking the language barrier" aspect. I am absolutely floored by the fact Mike left out Darmok, unless it was to troll.

[@MrHarbltron]

I watched this as a child on a rainy Sunday morning while I was sick, and was never sure if it was a real movie or just a fever dream. I guess it was both.

[@jacobdevine9031]

"yeah I saw the new Dune." "anyways, let's talk about Eternals".

[@jacobdevine9031]

"you know what, let's make fetch happen, let's talk about Eternals".

[@CursedWheelieBin]

As funny as it’ll be to watch them shit on, what is sure to be, a generic, boring, formulaic, CGI quip-fest, I’d rather hear these dudes break down a genuinely well crafted film

[@TheBestCommenterEVER]

@@CursedWheelieBin exactly, eternals deserves a thorough analysis!

[@alejandrojuarez5640]

@@CursedWheelieBin Imagine if they end up liking Eternals though. Would you change your opinion about the movie then?

[@JPP15]

@@alejandrojuarez5640 As long as Eternals is about family I'm in

[@Pxtl]

It's funny how Mike keeps calling Quaid's character "Dawwitch" because that's what Jerry called him. His name was Davidge.

[@painovoimaton]

drawbridge

[@Jessica_Roth]

Willis E. (Yes, I remember the middle initial. It's possible I've seen this one over-often.)

[@dyveira]

Watching long-winded, slow-burn scifi as a kid isn't too unusual. I watched "2010: The Year We Make Contact" dozens of times on a VHS tape when I was little.

[@colinmontgomery1956]

Me too.

[@powerfrenzy]

I am waiting for the end year catchup when you'll talk about Dune and Last Night in Soho for 20 seconds

[@proctoscopefilms]

Still salty about the Lighthouse

[@RegularCupOfJoe]

@@proctoscopefilms Same, regarding Lighthouse. I didn't care for the movie itself but their opinions would have/would be entertaining.

[@BradsGonnaPlay]

@@proctoscopefilms that was one of the biggest let-downs for me. Such a phenomenal film (love it or hate it) that they could have done an incredibly interesting dialogue over.

[@Bale4Bond]

@@proctoscopefilms The Lighthouse was a pretentious piece of garbage. That is coming from someone who is actually in to somewhat artsy fartsy stuff...

[@KinseySwartz]

Speaking of missing opportunities for obvious jokes that pretty much write themselves, that Dune poster with the mime on it that comes up at 45:15 should have had the tagline, "Fear is the mime-killer."

[@genewitch]

it is by will alone i won't groan at this pun

[@connielingus8385]

@@genewitch The pain!

[@frankmerker630]

I thought they were going to pull out “you know what other movie is due for a remake, Dune as originally attempted by David Lynch

[@TruthMaskedKiss]

I don't think any of them are big Herbert fans. I keep leaving dead cats at Rich Evans back door but still no invite.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

I remember LOVING this movie, but it's one I haven't revisited since I was a kid. I'm SURE it can't live up to my memories of it. Still I feel movies like this helped inspire movies with similar themes like District 9. A remake of this film today with a focused script and modern special effects would work really well.

[@moistcurtains]

It's still great.

[@durrtyjerzeeable]

Same it was this and Ice Pirates as a kid all day lol

[@lookoutforchris]

I liked watching space dances with wolves but man was the wife ugly.

[@user-account-not-found]

My mom had bought it used on VHS. Watched it a lot. I have mixed feelings.

[@andyoli75]

A movie like Enemy Mine would be perfect in this moment. The guys talk about it as coming on the coattails of Star Wars but I think it's an antiwar movie in the post Vietnam era. Science fiction at its best, saying what is difficult to say. Post war on terror, is the right time for such a remake.

[@Prander5x5]

Things are in a not so good place right now for me, so I have never been more thankful than to see a new 45 minute video from you movie maniacs. This is just what the doctor ordered. :D

[@berendharmsen]

The exterior shots of the movie were actually shot on Lanzarote, one of the Canary islands. They belong to Spain, but they are off the coast of Morocco. There's a volcano outflow area on the island that is a known tourist attraction. When I visited the place around 2000, they were still using the fact that Enemy Mine was shot there as a sales pitch. It is actually a great location for a stand in of an alien planet. I've never before been to a place where absolutely nothing grows. As far as you can see, there isn't even a single blade of grass. Apparently nothing can grow on the lava. It looks distinctly alien - apart from the tourists of course...

[@prosthoplus]

This is important information, and I'm glad that I now know this.

[@lukemclellan2141]

They shot scenes from the eternals on the canaries too. A big eruption is still going...

[@berendharmsen]

@@prosthoplus hardly, but since the video got the detail wrong I thought I'd mention it

[@Double_Vision]

It's also a place to get trashed in 40 degree heat with the lads. Lanzarote is a testament to man's arrogance.

[@veritabletheropod]

@@Double_Vision The capital Arrecife is pretty nice and it's got a great modern art museum, some of the surrounding towns are definitely pretty grim.

[@Swordopolis]

The original director was Richard Loncraine, who hasn't done a whole lot of note film-wise, but he did direct the second episode ("Day of Days") of Band of Brothers, so he's apparently quite capable of making good stuff

[@smilesfordays]

This is one of my favorite movies from the era. My dad and I watch it at least every couple years. Genuinely a landmark to have a slower humanist sci-fi movie instead of a grand standing epic (or an attempt at epic). The actor who plays the alien is one of my favorite portrayals of an alien character.

[@uphilliceskater]

Back in the 80s I saw a "making of" feature on Enemy Mine, and Louis Gossett Jr. explained how he really wanted his portrayal to feel truly alien, instead of just as a human in prosthetics, so he worked on creating idiosyncratic body language for the Drac race.

[@captaindaddy4991]

The idea that the studio would be watching the film and say, " Where is the Enemy Mine? They're in a cave, is that the Mine?"

[@lumpchunker5516]

My Dad just died very suddenly. Re:Views of movies we all shared in my childhood, like "Enemy Mine" have been incredibly comforting to me. They bring me back to a time when every part of my life wasn't such a wide-awake, screaming nightmare.

[@silentrocco]

Mime artist and Enemy Mine fan here. Therefore, a double like for this episode! 👍👍

[@mehashi]

Watched your trailer video, and I couldn't help but see that scene from "Partners" where the guy takes drugs and is twitching out. XD Something about your movements is similar, and it made me smile, so thank you :p

[@silentrocco]

@@mehashi Don‘t know about this film and scene. Need to check it. Thanks!

[@selekos]

@@charlesrense5199 if he was really really a mime, he would comment the video on invisible PC in non existing internet.

[@MrAndy9572ac]

Omg I used to watch this movie all the time 😋

[@alexbaum2204]

I couldn’t care less about this movie’s visual effects. It’s all about the story. At the risk of coming across as supremely corny, the story is beautiful. One of the best endings of any movie I can remember seeing.

[@alexbishop84]

👋

[@WillWildsOutdoorAdventures]

Really wish we could get a sequel in this world, imo one of the best sci-fi movies ever made. They did so much here ON ANOTHER PLANET in the 80s man yeah not everything will look perfect. I still feel the ILM shots in the fighter ships look fine for the time. Also this movie did another planet as good as Avatar, I felt like I was somewhere else the whole time truly another world. Pulling that off in the 80's? Wow well done. Top 10 Best Sci-fi ever for me.

[@daftbanna7202]

Just a lie tho isn't it. You obviously care a little bit

[@samsschool3639]

Is your wifes name Wunder?

[@AlbionVega]

Yes.

[@kanojo1969]

I have a super-fond memory of renting this along with a few other 'new' sci-fi movies one night with a bunch of my stoner friends in high-school. We settled in for the movie night and I think this was second, and after the first couple minutes everyone was bored and fell asleep, except for like 3 of us. And we got hooked on this completely bonkers thing that was basically just two guys talking. At the end we absolutely loved it. Although I've never watched it since and I had completely forgotten about the kid or the miners, etc. In retrospect it's just amazing it got made at all, given the lack of action.

[@Otokichi786]

I thought that "Enemy Mine" was about finding common ground in a survival situation, which became a nurture vs. nature thing when Zammis saw "3 instead of 5." Finally, it became a family thing when "Willis Davidge" went on his rescue/repatriation mission. The soldier had become an ambassador over the course of the movie.

[@ghostinhell666]

I have surgery in an hour, i cant tell you how nice it was to watch this and get my mind off things for a moment, thanx guys

[@4h0w1e6]

Good luck man!

[@ericfisher1360]

Its been 3 hours, do you guys think they made it?

[@kosemekars]

It's good to show contempt for your audience.

[@geiseric222]

@@cartoonking1789 I mean that’s what internet humor has been since the beginning, not shocking they finally caught up.

[@rearview2360]

Ask Michael Bay about that...

[@decorumlopez9147]

your name is missing a Y.

[@Camhin1]

@@geiseric222 what do mean caught up? They've been doing that since the plinket days.

[@zetetick395]

Finally an honest KZbinr

[@anthonyhiggins9799]

Fantastic film, nothing quite like it. And two great performances. Classic.

[@cheatsheet3325]

"It's like the cute version of the Eraserhead baby."

[@hozz1014]

They should put up warnings before showing that 🤮

[@MysterytheMaker]

The eraserhead baby isnt cute?... :

[@batz796]

I remember getting a DVD copy of Enemy Mine for a birthday when I was a child and being devastatingly disappointed it wasn't Star Wars

[@TheTuubster]

Fun fact: The space station scenes were filmed in the Bavaria Film Studios near Munich. I visited them in the 90's. I don't know if they still are part of the tour (in the 2000's they appeared in the music video for Modern Talking's "TV makes the Superstar"). I learned for example that the corridors were extended by simply using mirrors at the end, tilted to the left/right for a couple of degrees.

[@zetram01]

I loved this movie as a kid. It came on like everyday on HBO during the summer.

[@Cardiopazia]

Can't believe nobody mentioned "Hell in the Pacific" with Lee Marvin.

[@InfraMajin]

Or ROBINSON CRUSOE ON MARS (1964). I've never read the story that the movie ENEMY MINE was adapted from, but the film does play a lot like a mash-up of ROBINSON CRUSOE ON MARS and HELL IN THE PACIFIC (1968).

[@greyarea6688]

I screamed this at my partner for most of the Re:View so I hope that makes up for it. :)

[@brandonboyle8159]

How the film "experts" failed to realize this

[@cw740]

I was gonna until I saw you did! Classic Toshiro Mifune!

[@KClouisville]

Big similarities....though John Boorman's ending to that film displays a much more cynical view of human nature.

[@frigingoon]

i love this movie. always have. many people did not like it while i was trying to share my love. good to see some love for it.

[@KerenskyLI]

Them explaining that Wolfgang Petersen of Das Boot fame directed this makes me think the alien's nickname of 'Jerry' is not so random or coincidental. 'Jerry' is a slang name given to German soldiers by the Americans, which is also where 'Jerrycan' comes from. It is the WW2 equivalent of Vietnam's 'Charlie'

[@ironclad6471]

Good catch! That is a common thing in any war - create a dehumanizing term for the enemy. "I killed a bunch of jerries" is easier for a lot of people to say than "I killed a bunch of people"

[@JoshTyrReece]

@@ironclad6471 I mean look at some soldiers. If they weren't some psychos, they come back broken because of the things they had to do. Its often a cope mechanism to make it "easier", to not lose the mind or clean your own rifle "accidentally" with the own head in front of it. As someone who saw the war in Yugoslavia...people nowadays talk way to easy about civil war, like its some kind of joke or small riot. They didnt see a real war and neighbours murdering each other.

[@frankcasella423]

@@ironclad6471 people named Jerry are humans too

[@lukemclellan2141]

The movie was adapted from a novella and used the original names, as far as I can tell.

[@rrmenton8016]

Ive known a number of Jerrys and must say, I question the humanity of each one of them.

[@Hyperbog]

I fucking love Enemy Mine. I watch it every couple of years. Super quotable movie. Just a great time every time.

[@zetetick395]

It's _Letters from Iwo Jima_ in spaaaace!

[@stevenjohnson7719]

Yeah, Jay and Mike are full of sh!t. 😄

[@JohnnyZenith]

The ending was far too rushed. I'd remake it starring Justin Bieber, Zendaya, and Carrot Top.

[@cypherian2]

I remember watching this film not long after it was in theaters on cable… a lot! It’s stuck with me all these years for all the messages it conveyed and the bond formed by the two main characters. I know it is far from perfect, but I agree, it should be remade someday!

[@TheNameisPlissken1981]

Did anyone ever see John Boorman's "Hell in the Pacific" with Lee Marvin & Toshiro Mifune. You can find it free on KZbin and it is essentially the same film as Enemy Mine, except it takes place on an island during WW2 and it has a shittier ending. Enemy Mine is still a fun enjoyable film. Both Quaid & Gossett are fantastic in it.

[@stevehiggins9351]

Came to the comments section to say this... both great films.

[@TheNameisPlissken1981]

@@stevehiggins9351 except the ending of Pacific is horrible. Depending on which ending you saw. There were 3 and they are constantly shuffling them around. I hate the one where they attack each other as a bomb goes off essentially killing them both.

[@michaelbarbarich3965]

Love me some Lee Marvin

[@igloocookie]

Big love for Hell in the Pacific. I felt the same first time I saw Enemy Mine.

[@sartanawillpay7977]

"Enemy Mine" is basically the same movie as "Hell in the Pacific" because the Marvin/Mifune film was made over a decade before. Enemy Mine is not even the first time someone did "Hell in the Pacific in Space"- the Galactica 1980 episode "The Return of Starbuck" had Starbuck marooned on a planet with a stranded Cylon and they learn to respect and help each other.

[@tunasamich8571]

Just want to say that Enemy Mine is just a wholesome science fiction film. Thanks.

[@Yabuturtle]

One of my all time favorite movies and one of the most underrated movies I can think of. I believe it was the first movie I have ever seen as a kid, but I had only seen parts of it from time to time and for a while, I had forgotten what the name of the movie was, but I knew the characters and the story. It was unique and the relationship between the two really is great. And more heartwarming when he Davidge takes care of the child. It involved a war, but it never really explained who was at fault. It didn't really have to because that wasn't the main focus of the movie anyway. It was implied that the humans were at fault, who annexed the star system, to which Jeriba says that humans invaded instead. The relationship between the two really was great. The villains were ruthless and despicable, even if they weren't really stellar or anything. Villains weren't anything to write home about, but again, that was not the main focus. It didn't need to go into great detail about them. The relationship between Jeriba and Davidge and later with Zammis, was all that really mattered and it had one of the most satisfying endings ever.

[@Kinkoyaburi]

I want them to troll everyone by reviewing "Dune" from 1984

[@grzegorzswist]

Don't give them ideas.

[@Arbiter099]

No, no, sci-fi channel Dune miniseries

[@scrfoolish]

Oh man I'd love a Re:View of Dune 1984

[@drpg7924]

According to Patreon that may actually happen later this month.

[@kicsiszol]

Yes please!