[ENG CC] Integra Type R vs. BMW M3 E36, Megane RS on Slovakiaring [TD1]

[@miroshi]

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[@jagabiguledew3114]

Miroshi got tired of translating old films of best motoring so he decided to make one..nice!

[@miroshi]

+jagabi guledew I figured it's time to put the Type R against newer cars. Although there's still a lot of older sports cars on the track, even more than newer cars.

[@miroshi]

My first track day ever, it went very well, car survived it just fine except for the brakes, I burned a crap out of them. Need to use track ready brake pads the next time. Anyway I really enjoyed it, especially these two hot laps, driving against the BMW M3. Car specs and other info is in the description. The missing center piece of the dashboard is not a weight reduction, it was undergoing some modifications and I didn't finish it on time.

[@Seattle808]

+miroshi Fucken bro fist bump for DC2 itr's!

[@Seattle808]

+miroshi What all do you have done to it so far?

[@miroshi]

+Seattle808 only weight reduction, so it's still basically stock if we speak about track oriented mods.

[@NorfolkN]

Love your work Miroshi, great videos and glad to see you enjoying yourself. Be careful with that gearbox

[@chrisdooley6468]

I'm super impressed w your ITR - definitely upgraded pads and steel lines will increase durability and feel for sure! That track is set up for lots of high speed areas plus I like that it's wide enough to safely pass. Great video and I'd love to see more!

[@miroshi]

+Chris Dooley There's gonna be more the next year.

[@cvgbcs]

finally we get to see your Integra ! Love the car :)

[@miroshi]

+cvgbcs Actually you can get to see my Integra since 2013 in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZLCgKFtmZljftU Though it's already outdated as I already did a lot of other mods to it. Will make another video the next year.

[@cvgbcs]

i subbed to your channel just last year :)

[@miroshi]

It's never late to watch it :)

[@MrRodillo123]

holy shit that body roll on the m3 lol

[@meedo73]

great driving for a first timer bro! however, alot of the times u were doing the heel-and-toe, you were blipping the throttle, pausing, then releasing the clutch.. this upsets your braking stability and increases risk of shift lock. try to release the clutch paddle right after u blip the throttle :) ! your lines are good, and ur reaction at that overstear moment was perfect and calm! keep it up!

[@miroshi]

+meedo73 A spot on comment, indeed I did release the clutch too late sometimes, need to do more track days to get use to the racing style.

[@NinjaKid1985]

Good Comment. Wanted to say the same. Truly a good Line that you are driving there. Nice to see you drive your 'teg on track! And to see you drive on your own. Your channel is getting better and better. ;) Keep it up.

[@miroshi]

+NinjaKid1985 Thanks :)

[@mikedawg719]

Jan seems like a total rookie lol. Great video though +miroshi!

[@GameTieTV]

I notice just notice just now that you have a left hand drive type R. that's really cool :D

[@miroshi]

+GameTie That's because it's the EUDM Type R. LHD is standard in all EU.

[@GameTieTV]

***** thats awesome. I thought EUDM cars were right hand drives. over all, sweet type R. Type R's here are still selling for $8-10,000 usd. Its been like that since 2005. How much is it there?

[@miroshi]

the range is pretty wide, depending on condition it's like $6k-13k in usd.

[@jnr1989]

thats awesome man!!

[@miroshi]

What I'm not happy about though are the gearbox ratios, Honda should've put into the car a 6speed gearbox right from the beginning. The 1-2-3 gear is OK, nice close consecutive shifting, but as soon as you shift into 4th gear there is this stupid void, big pause, nothingness, 4th gear is very lazy until the rpm won't get over 7500rpm. It's clearly demonstatred in this race, as soon as I shift into 4th gear the BMW starts to get ahead and overtakes me at 2:10, the same can be said about the Megane, I shift into 4th gear and Megane starts to pull away from me at 4:59. Yes you could swap gears and make the 4th and 5th gear closer but you'd loose top end speed not to mention more revvy engine means higher fuel consumption, so not a good solution for me because the car has to be streetable. 6 gear gearbox is the only way to go.

[@miroshi]

+acepty Already have 4.785 final, stock from factory, same gearbox as 98 JDM. The only way is swapping the 4th or even the 5th gear. But I've got already something else planned, which is much better solution in every way.

[@miroshi]

+AlexandreNogueira I know it's a common practice to swap 4th and 5th gear. Shame that Honda didn't develop 6 speed gearbox for B engines.

[@DRNHO]

+miroshi Unfortunately, it's not the gear ratios that are at fault (at speed) - it's the engine's lack of torque, compared with turbo cars (Megane) and cars with much more powerful engines (BMW M3). The faster you go, the slower the ITR will seem - that's why it's more suited to smaller tracks, with lots of braking in slow corners and definitely no inclines - such as Tsukuba. Track it without passengers or supercharge it, if you want to be more competitive, on a track with long straights, like this one.

[@miroshi]

If it was the lack of torque I'd have mentioned it in the first place. It's not that case. Sure it doesn't have much torque but I assure you as soon as the revs hit 7500rpm the car pulls better despite the higher speed. Higher torque in that specific low 6000 rpm area would also cure this problem as would the 6 speed gearbox which wouldn't allow the revs to drop to such low rpm band. If you take closer look at gear ratios, there's a huge gap between 3rd and 4th gear, which is the primary cause for the void. The 98spec gearbox was tuned towards the Tsukuba where 4th gear is used only on the back straight for a few seconds. 96spec gearbox is smoother in the transition between 3rd and 4th gear. But no matter what you do you simply can't beat the 6speed gearbox setup in K engines. Super close and still super efficient with 6th gear for cruising. I don't plan to add any kind of forced induction. Anyway I do have plans how to solve this issue.

[@CoupeBerlin]

+miroshi 170Nm and 190HP vs 320Nm and 300HP in the M3 vs 340Nm and 250HP in the Megane (if stock). your 4th gear is short compared to other cars. 8500U/min = 187km/h. The 4th in the M3 goes nearly 220km/h. If you race on straight, you will allways loose above 140 km/h- how ever the gear ratio is. Your advance is the weight- you are nearly 300kg lighter than the M3 or RS

[@TassieLorenzo]

You overtook the lovely Accord Type R! :)

[@miroshi]

+TassieLorenzo He was just cruising around.

[@TassieLorenzo]

***** hehe

[@lamazver]

Great video! Cheers!

[@l.b.6264]

good job Miroshi-san ! very Nice show! i drived à ITR during 15years (now i crashed them the 23/12/15 :-( ) but i love the Honda VTEC its so funny to drive! good luck for your next races! thx for your vidéos, and please make it mores!!! :-)

[@miroshi]

+Ludovic Beck Sorry about your ITR, it's a shame. Anyway I will have more trackday footage in a few weeks, the next trackday is coming :)

[@l.b.6264]

+miroshi no its notre à shame i pushed it too much and à animal crossed rhe road at this moment.... thats life but now can i buy à S2000! but good luck for your next races, and share it! ;-) toi make good videos

[@russellmartinez411]

Nice, bet your hooked.

[@miroshi]

+Russell Martinez Can't wait to do it again.

[@oversteer6771]

the bmw really needs to lower his car, that thing is on two wheels half the time and hes loosing time. good race tho, what upgrades have you done to the R?

[@miroshi]

+pur1st/// The BMW seemed to be fully stock. My car is basically stock too, weight reduction is the only mod I did so far. Details in the description.

[@MajsoSVK]

To je slovník :D

[@miroshi]

+MajsoSVK Trnafsky :)

[@turbod15]

ecu bolt ons and suspension will transform the car

[@MrAlexio27]

Will you possibly upgrade your suspension at the the expense of a harder daily drive?

[@miroshi]

+MrAlexio27 Yes, because it's more like a weekend car, not 100% daily drive.

[@gaboaaa23]

that 4th gear was a bummer......

[@eagle_gr]

What time keeping device / program are you using?

[@miroshi]

+eagle Android smarphone with RaceChrono app.

[@eagle_gr]

+miroshi wow that's some fast replying time right there!!!! :D Keep it up with the videos mate, love them!

[@olivierd8296]

Nice , ;) .

[@emicmoto]

do you know the trackday date´s for 2016?

[@miroshi]

+Emic Moto Trackday date's for 2016 are still not scheduled yet, just checked their calendar. Trackdays usually start around March though.

[@emicmoto]

nice to know thank you ^^

[@TheHondaTuner]

You should really upgrade your wheels! And maybe a few horses. I miss my DC2 :(

[@miroshi]

+TheHondaTuner I plan to upgrade many things, it's gonna be a long process.

[@Seattle808]

+miroshi the wheels? Did he mean tires? Your wheels are all good already!

[@miroshi]

Tires are good, but I'd like to upgrade to JDM spec size 215/45/R16

[@TheHondaTuner]

195 is a joke on ITR... you should at least put on the Facelift Size you mentioned. And dont forget to upgrade the Offset! OEM Honda offset always sucks

[@Seattle808]

Actually that's your opinion, some purists think 195 is the only way they want it, I personally think it deserves custom exhaust and a solid tune, although I swear his tach got up to 9k. Around 200whp DC2 itr is what I like ;)

[@BMWiE-lz3nu]

E36 got the suspension for a track like this. Nice driving tho,guy at the end ruined a good finish

[@user-uv3cs4ox8s]

I'm curious how you removed 67kg? Still seems to be mostly factory? Thanks!

[@miroshi]

the car is still stock except for the weight reduction. I have removed A/C, spare wheel, rear seats, antenna, rear wiper, airbags, intake resonator, ..... and a lot of other smaller things, etc. swapped lighter parts, It's -70kg now.

[@miroshi]

I will make a video on the weight reduction in the future, maybe the next year.

[@user-uv3cs4ox8s]

Must have done a great job - that sounds like a decent amount of weight to remove from an already lightweight car without turning it into a track car only!

[@miroshi]

M fully stripped Integra for track racing can weigh as low as 920-950kg, with extreme mods less than 900kg possible. But I'd happy sitting at around 1000kg dry weight. The stock Recaros are also very heavy, I can shave another -16kg with fixed recaro "pole position" bucket seats. Planned for the next year.

[@АлександрГерман-п5н]

Привет из РОССИИ хороший канал ))

[@miroshi]

welcome

[@АлександрГерман-п5н]

уже подписался )

[@cristianlario8794]

No está mal, pero el conductor tiene algunos fallos serios que le han costado por lo menos adelantar al Megane y a saber si algo más.

[@martynasjarmalis9819]

Miroshi, where do you live? Czech rep., slovakia, poland ?

[@miroshi]

+Martynas Jarmalis I live in Slovakia

[@martynasjarmalis9819]

+miroshi Very nice race track, I'm from Lithuania, couple months ago I was at open track day in Brno racetrack czech rep. I hope to come to Slovakia ring soon :)

[@miroshi]

Nice, if you'll see a white Integra Type R around the track (with retractable front licence plate), that's me.

[@milesonewheelwinter]

Forget to put real brakes on ? Shoud not fade that fast on a light car

[@miroshi]

stock pads faded that fast

[@illewmenadeh722]

Stock integra brakes are a joke. Upgrading brakes on my ITR is the first mod I will do to it.

[@Zemjang]

Pica = shit. :-D lol... Super kanal chlape... Jen tak dal.

[@miroshi]

+Zemi Zemjang :-)

[@QDAWGFTW]

what language was that? how many languages can you read/speak?

[@miroshi]

+Forge Slovak, English, German, Japanese. The language in the video is Slovak.

[@QDAWGFTW]

+miroshi holy cow

[@xXUnoriginalNameXx33Meygaera]

+miroshi Is it normal for people to know that many languages from where you are from? Unfortunately, for Americans, we really don't have many reasons to learn other languages because people from every other country usually knows enough English already.

[@miroshi]

xXUnoriginalNameXx33 No it's not, a small percentage of people (younger generation) can speak English, some of them also German or French or Italian. That's about it.

[@robertcuevas3602]

miroshi and do not forger spanish

[@bLuEdEviL17]

Where is that track location?

[@miroshi]

+bLuE dEviL It's located in southwest Slovakia, EU.

[@tiemze]

racing to the pitstop to get gas I assume??

[@NineEleven1]

to be honest. I think you're overrevving it espacially on some downshifts and is looks like you lose some balance doing that

[@miroshi]

+NineEleven1 Indeed I overrevved it by 500rpm or so, in two or three instances. The gap between 3-4th gear is simply too big, prone for overrevving if not careful. I'll try better the next time.

[@fcguy7]

More like you vs early braking BMW

[@robinsonlamas1744]

mochito😮

[@adamsargeson520]

Jan is a right wimp passenger lol

[@Euphorica]

stock ecu doesn't Rev to 9000

[@miroshi]

+Euphorica Stock P73-G01 EUDM ITR ECU revs up to 8700Rpm, sometimes 8750rpm, the rev limiter is not super accurate. I confirmed these values when reading directly the digital output data from ECU. What you're looking at in the video is the analog rpm needle which shows +300 Rpm more than the engine actually revs. So everything is perfectly normal.

[@bartjakub691]

BMW at 2.00 in the mirror

[@turbod15]

r1r?

[@miroshi]

+ku lo Toyo R1R

[@wacekvaginiarz6165]

brak doświadczenia

[@hdksb2]

my grandma can track drive better than this dude!

[@noxin86]

Poor cornering and gear changing

[@lexburen5932]

yes he was braking to early, and entering the corners little bit to fast. But overall not that bad

[@juancastillo1710]

Awesome vid!