Engenes Need a Reality Check [REUPLOAD]

[@Pink_bobacat]

As a multi-stan who is an Engene I refuse to associate myself with those toxic kiddos.

[@Sharfaaa]

SAME

[@Moonlight_NS]

SAME! EVERY GROUP HAS BUNCH IF TOXIC FANS SO ITS MAKING ME MAD THAT THEY COUNT THOSE TOXIC ASSES AS "Engenes"

[@lunaskullriver1326]

I'm getting into Enhypen recently but I'm really not associating myself with Engenes due to their toxicity Thank you for this video/reupload!

[@pvt_bambi]

Hey I’m an engene 2 just wanna say that not all of them r toxic like (every fandom has toxic fans tbh so just disassociate from from that’s all we can do)

[@lunaskullriver1326]

@_a19rya Oh I'm not saying that every Engene is toxic, I'm so sorry if my comment sounded like this! Every fandom has a toxic side. There just seem to be lots of toxic Engenes that's all I meant but I'm not saying that every Engene is toxic and I'm glad for every non-toxic fan 🧡

[@ileei391]

Me too I don't know why people don't think twice before sending hate and how it literally and seriously affects people and idols life .

[@Paranormallove-g8u]

Well, I agree with you, but we must not forget that every group has a group of toxic fans, and frankly, I never thought that enhypen fans were toxic to that degree. I considered them to be the most peaceful fans and did not interfere with other groups, and this is what I really liked about them.As for the engens who bully the members, they are just fake engens who do not represent the engens at all

[@isabelsalcedo931]

they are actually among the most toxic in 4th gen IMO (this is coming from a big engene for years now (since debut pretty much), it wasn't as bad until these past two years. Not saying all of them are toxic, but a good chunk of them are (more than other fandoms)

[@iamgigi222]

enha is my ult group and im an engene and i agree w u 100%

[@pvt_bambi]

Same

[@HAHAheewon]

I feel like the main problem with this fandom is that they get divided over very small things, and some even go to extents to bash the idols. (I'm a new Engene) I remember one time in Jake's live at the starting he had starbucks but later he poured it into a diff cup, and many were forcing him to stop drinking that. It is a sensitive thing but he did it unintentionally and even apologised, which wasn't it enough for some Engenes (I think they expected him to puke out wtv he drank or smth). They sent him soo much hate and said stuff like: "u lost respect as a human". It really made me uncomfortable seeing all those and I had to make a video on it.

[@lilytulips02]

i saw that on insta too and one engene i think post something in weverse about that

[@m2hrah]

they were just trying to guide jake (not talking about the ones that told him to throw it away, stop drinking, or puke it) im just saying it's better to take care of them so the somi, giselle, yunjin thing doesn't happen again, right? so people can earn respect for this guy, and start getting known as the group that doesn't support genocide and stuff, i think that was the point of their actions

[@HAHAheewon]

@@m2hrah but if that was the case they could've conveyed it in a kinder way (like the engene who told Jake, when he apologized. I mean they were saying it in a neutral tone) most of them were just straight up rude and bashed Jake on platforms like weverse and yt

[@Engene_enha1]

I didn't see a lot of engenes bashing him they were more people correcting him kindly than bashing him but maybe it's because of the kind of space I am I'm on Twitter and the people bashing him were immediately called out by other engenes

[@booksnflowers]

I'm an Engene and I agree with you :(

[@HAHAheewon]

Me too

[@Hell0_Kitt1-b6f]

I have been saying all that about ni-ki like he shouldn't be doing mature concepts and its too much but the fans came for me saying I was sexualising him and that dance isnt meant to be seen as sexual.

[@yawnzzem]

I generally don’t like when people generalise fandoms, but as an engene and a Moa I can feel the big difference in fandoms

[@Cathy2098-s7i]

1. Engenes are not toxic. 2. Because real engenes don’t behave like that. 3. Those “stans” aren’t fans, they are antis. 4. Calling yourself an engene is not the problem. 5. We need to stop calling these toxic people fans are start calling them antis. That’s the real issue.

[@Shambhavi2014]

They just fantasies about ENHYPEN and just consider their looks. They do not support enhypen and they'd be calling them ENGENES without actually supporting or streaming their songs. Idk how we can protect our artists if the fans are continuing with this useless dramas. ToT

[@duckyduck4943]

i am an engene an i agree with you. engene should give them slack. they are just kids and teenager at most early 20

[@marialou1680]

i've been wanting to talk abt it so much, so i'm literally yapping: I've been a fan, on and off, since I-LAND. By on and off, I mean I would listen to the music, but because of my personal life, I wouldn't interact as much. However, I remember in 2022, during the MANIFESTO: DAY 1 era, I interacted with Enhypen content much more because I had more free time. Oh my god, the hate train Enhypen were getting was actually scary, and the way Engene handled it was really, really bad. Honestly, Enhypen has such good music and are very entertaining and fun to watch. I felt bad for the way people treated them, and not just one member, but ALL of them. For example, Jay getting hate for his jawline, which made me think, "What???" Sunghoon getting hate for being naturally shy and for just being an MC was literally mind-blowing. Moas were spamming him with hate comments because he "replaced" Soobin, and he forgot Eunchae's name during HYBE's picnic. Ni-ki being s******* as a minor and people saying they were waiting for him to be 18, Sunoo being hated for being more on the pretty side rather than the "manly" side (just weird), and the whole body-shaming thing, which made me think, "Isn't he an adult, and aren't they friends?" He can definitely defend himself and probably set boundaries, which Sunghoon mentioned when he said he stopped teasing the members as much during a live, so idk why people made such an enormous deal out of it (like i get it, but at the same time i don't). Then there's Heeseung's appearance, which was a really awful situation with people just being bullies. Jake had a situation with the stylist, and I honestly think Jake probably wanted to speak about it-he's a very well-spoken person from what I've seen in interviews and his lives-but obviously, Belift had to be an awful company, Jungwon was hated for being a young leader... I genuinely think that they have so much potential, and their music is very underrated. (imo they have the best boy group music of the 4th generation; it reminds me so much of the absolute delight that is EXO's music). Since they started, they have become better vocalists, performers, and dancers, and are easily the best and most well-rounded group in HYBE as far as I'm concerned (txt and bts being close seconds). They need more recognition, but with the way online Engenes act, it's scary (especiallt twitter). All the Engenes I've met in real life were absolute sweethearts, so I don't know where the crazy ones are, and i don't want to know, I just hope they pack their bags and leave tf out of the fandom because honestly, it's tiring.

[@jumi21]

i'm a multistan and an engene, thank you for speaking out because it was high time someone said something! i'm glad that you made me aware of more things than what i already knew, this is really embarrassing! :( thankfully i do still see genuinely nice engenes around me so there's hope.

[@Moonlight_NS]

The fact that Enhypen is so good that "EnGeNeS" were hating Ni-Ki on blowing a candle or that "he didnt deserve being debuted" Be:Lift COULD have done smt but they didn't. Lately Engenes also noticed that Be:Lift never tried protecting Enhypen but started protecting ILLIT better

[@Engene_enha1]

It wasn't engenes hating on Ni-ki it's was kpop stans from different fandoms doing that because of their controversy that they are bullying sn it was engenes defending them from the hate but y'all would do anything to paint engenes in a bad light

[@everythingnothing2978]

​​@@Engene_enha1many engenes are good and I can tell that since im an engene too but some engenes definitely make the situation even worse during that time. Like accounts that is solo stanning sunoo definitely used that as a gotcha moment to hate more on other members and opening ways for other fandoms to hate on all members and they themselves didnt realise that they didnt really protect sunoo in anyway. That situation should have been handled professionally from the start

[@Engene_enha1]

@@everythingnothing2978 it was toxic SN solo stans that behaved like that not engenes, because engenes were fighting for Ni-ki every single day

[@lilytulips02]

I have a friend who is an engene and she started stanning them 1 year ago because i introduced them to her. and she started to ship Ni-ki with The members, i dont know why? but i will try to tell her not to. anyways, i agree with you as a multi-stan, i would not be friend with engenes due to their toxic personality

[@HAHAheewon]

Not all Engenes are toxic though, Consider people like me

[@lilytulips02]

​@@HAHAheewon yess, i actually have 3 online friends that is an engene and they're very kind but one of them hates sooha tho-

[@celebrate4teez]

@@lilytulips02 ur friend hates a fictional character? 😭😭

[@lilytulips02]

@@celebrate4teez yes😭

[@HAHAheewon]

@@lilytulips02 ohhh (I don't hate Sooha)

[@Sanatizer_1009]

Im an engene but i will never associate myself with those disgusting and toxic engenes 1 about the heeseung situation i didn't hear the n word im not defending him but i didn't really hear it imo 2 About jakes situation as a muslim engene it's not jakes fault it's the stylist but we shouldn't hate jake for something he had 0 control of

[@psdoyoo]

22:05 I disagree with you on that because Americans might not care about that, but Koreans take this super serious, even if it wasn't actually disrespectful, i don't think non Koreans have a say on what they should or should not consider disrespectful on their own history (Idk of you're korean or not)

[@Jungwoninho]

I don’t have much contact with Engenes, but the ones I’m friends with are sooo nice and respectful! They really love the boys and are always thinking the best for them. But I know, the toxic part of the fandom is huge, and I agree with u….happy that I never met one like this.

[@celebrate4teez]

As an engene, I’ve met a lot of engenes, and none of them were toxic ! I am a moa too, and honestly I’ve never seen moas fighting with engenes, but always there’s a random hating txt or enhypen 😭 I really love Enhypen, I wish engenes were better 😭 (srry for bad grammar, my native language is spanish lol)

[@MomoXxdotcom]

sunoo is gae

[@HAHAheewon]

Frr, I have always seen Moas and Engenes being good frnds, Guess we haven't witnessed the other side :(

[@yogurtluvrrr]

do yall have pinterest i need engene friends ! :3

[@HAHAheewon]

@@yogurtluvrrr I have pinterest

[@celebrate4teez]

@@yogurtluvrrr yup ! 🕴🏼 Mine is “sunwonnieee”

[@kylie3456]

its sad that I agree with you......while being an engene myself

[@Moonlight_NS]

Im an engene since I-Land and we are actually pretty friendly YES there are toxic engenes but lets be fr every fandom has both toxic and kind fans:) Engenes usually DONT count those toxic people as "Engenes" We are friendly like a family with each other EXCEPT toxic ones

[@IVEISLIFE_Official]

As a engene we, atleast I refuse to be associated with those toxic childs

[@iloveeatingicecream]

I'm not a fan of the message in this video, since right at the beginning the video refers to this toxicity as "most" Engenes. I think it's pretty strange to generalize a group of people simply have a shared interest in music and performance by ascribing the history and baggage of perceived misdoings by any subsegment of "fans" at any point in their history around the world.. I've personally seen both TXT and Enhypen perform live in NYC, and all of my interactions with fellow concertgoers at both concerts were honestly great! In both cases, fans were respectful, so supportive of the boys, and we helped each other out trying to find public transport back haha. I think the danger of videos like this is that it stigmatizes an entire kpop fandom (I mean in the title you are calling Engenes out by name), and liking kpop already comes with a lot of stigma. There's a ton of baggage in this video, even just looking at the comments, it is deterring new fans from wanting to associate with the fandom. Idk. I've followed Kpop for a long time since DBSK era, and every fandom has had its ups and downs, especially as the idols and the fans themselves age. To me, being an Engene is as simple as liking Enhypen - I like to see the boys perform in concert, I think Chaconne and Fatal Trouble are bops, and I look forward to new Enhypen behind the scenes videos. It's that simple - no subsegment of this fandom gets to represent me or what Enhypen means to me. In a similar fashion, I can be proud of being an American without constantly being told I need to "check myself" for the wrongdoings of American history, or what some groups in America are doing right now. It's just a strange topic for a Moa to be making a 24 minute video telling a different fandom why they are wrong - it to me is in fact a negative experience I now have as an Engene with a Moa, and yet I'm not here generalizing Moas :)

[@kaya20_56]

This person is also an engene not just a moa

[@m2hrah]

i totally agree with everything you said but im kinda confused as to why you feel the need to know the heights of the members? also, as to why ni-ki grew taller pretty quickly , genetics play a major role with ni-ki, and pills that made him get taller (Ni-ki's whole family are really tall, ex. konon, she's around 5'10, and his younger sister seems to be growing aswell) even during I-land, ni-ki was already taller than 3/7 of the members, he was the same height as jay during i-land, and after debut he def just got a lot taller because pills + genetics , also his features haven't really changed im sure it's just maturing

[@Moonlight_NS]

As in Moas vs Engenes...How about Moas huh?! I think everyone knows when Jay's face was in the same cam as TXT...DO Y'ALL REMEMBER HOW MOAs KEPT TWITTING ABOUT "Jay you are gross" "it will be better if u die" etc? What abt those toxic MOAs hating on a guy for having 1/4 of his face in the same cam as TXT? Im not saying Engenes are innocent but Im just showing that every fandom has toxic fans. And Engenes that did that sh*t to TXT, they are just immature.

[@everythingnothing2978]

Real finally someone acknowledged moas toxicity too. I remember how they make the sunoo's situation worse too. Yikes

[@akira4362]

as a engene and a multistan, i wanted to touch on one thing that bugs me the most about engenes and toxic engenes. i find engenes very similar to one direction fans to some extent, because of how they sexualize them and are so beyond delusional over them. it happened with one direction, it happened with bts, and it happens as per usual with enhypen too. you guys need develop a life, common sense and respect for the people you love and realize they are not your husbands, your boyfriends or your friends. they are strangers who you see on a screen.

[@Bangtan_she]

8:00 I have been thinking about it ever since i compared him from Border: Carnival era and Sadame era (I'm a new engene, plz), and IN LESS THAN YEAR he had changed COMPLETELY! Like who GROWS THIS fast!!?? Plus, I don't know, if you guys have noticed this.... But isn't Hybe trying to reflect the BTS shadow on Enhypen? Let me clear this out. 7 members. The maknae. If you notice, what I mean... Edit: I'm not hating on anyone. No negative comments at all (except maybe Hybe?)

[@Engene_enha1]

There is nothing similar between the two groups except the fact that they are 7... you're definitely reaching with this point

[@МОАкашка-я3ж]

I think that most groups that was made by a Survival shows, has a toxic fandoms or a significant amount of toxic fans. Survival show is a tournament, both for idols and viewers. The whole idea of those shows is to make everyone on their way to fall off because you have your own bias who deserves debut more that others. Like it's toxic followers from the very beginning. But i like Enhypen, not sure about their fans unfortunately. Also about early Enhypen, i remember how i was feeling cringe because they were very young but the mv was portraiting them as an adults. I personally hate when young people trying to look like adults when they are not. They basically killing their childhood, the most beautiful time of your life

[@bethlarue9054]

I think you are right about some things. I think Engenes could be divided because the group came out of a competition show, which naturally pits fans against each other. I disagree with your interpretation of ILand though. I think K was most hated, not Niki. I think members voted Sunoo to ground because at the time, he was physically weak, not because they thought he wasn’t talented. Sunoo said himself that he lacked stamina and couldn’t keep up. I think a lot of the post debut stuff you mention either relates engenes inability to move on from ILand and support group as a whole but, I think you are also grouping a few loud Engenes, as all Engenes. I think most Engenes aren’t saying/doing things you claim but, you are listening to the few that are and trying to create a story and drama, where there isn’t.

[@AriaKSongPrincess]

Also don't defect from the fandom if you love the group, or the anti's and weirdo's win. Being controversial for the sake of it is the most attention they probably ever have gotten or ever will receive in their lives. Besides when you hear your groups say how much they love their fandom's and how much their fandom's give them life, you can't abandon them. They literally will tell you that dealing with good people from their fandom helps them through their hardest days and motivates them when they don't feel their best. Music and dance is supposed to connect people.

[@Ushahimasha]

As a moaengene i can clearly see the different between 2 fandoms. Came here after watching a video that discussed about problems of moa fandom. And everyone in the comment section is agreeing. But here still trying to defend. ☹️

[@psdoyoo]

I find it super strange how much Niki's personality changed on a year, from his pre debut videos when he was 12 probably to drunken dazed era, he was a sassy queen, then suddenly his whole personality changed and now he's one of those straight tiktok boys. Drunken dazed was the last time i saw that version of him, with that picture of him in studio choom, he was like Sunoo back then, but from 15 to 16 he became a whole different guy, from Sunoo to Heeseung in one year. (This is purely about his personality and not about his sexuality btw)

[@Stvrhypen]

I just wanted to clear some things up so I have been a engene for quite a time now and even tho my fyp feed is 96% positive against the idols and supporting there are of course negative posts too. And I completely support youre pinion of engenes going to far.But I think the hate against them is not hot right now. But I just wanted to say something to the heeseung and Jake situation for the heeseung situation you can hear that heeseung is singing the song from aus and jungwon is singing another song and it overlapped so it made it sound like the n word. But if that’s not true I think that belift clearly needed to do a apology bc that’s not okay. And for Jake I hate it when idols get hated for their stage outfits eventhough it was the stylist fault I’m an Muslim myself but I think belift should apologize for the mistake the stylist made bc that’s not okay and for Niki the jacket Islam doesn’t really have a Islamic symbol like of course if you type it in emojis it will come but we don’t really use it and it’s also on the turkey, Tunesian and Pakistani flag and I am Turkish and I saw people dance with the flag so I don’t thing that was innapropiate.

[@gamewithgamer4076]

And you know none can clap with one hand so if some toxic people said something against moas or txt that means moas also had some issues with Engenes..do you want me to say that all the fans of txt are angels?? sorry to say but there's no fandom without toxic people but the majority of the fandom won't take the responsibility of what the toxic people says..

[@psdoyoo]

4:51 i was one of them, i am sorry guys, i am NOT proud of my past 😭😭😭😭😭

[@tassaklimoan]

good videoo

[@salome_2000]

in my opinion those so called "engenes" are not even engenes bc i know so many engene and they are literally so sweet and supportive to enhypen And those who sexualize disrespecting them or being toxic,hating them are not engenes everything you said i 100% agree with you.

[@Moonlight_NS]

But like actually, why would fans force people who have no idea about their existence to apologise to them? Like, you can continue living without the apology. Im a Muslim myself anf ITS OBVIOUS JAKE HAD NO IDEA what the accessory said, the purpose etc since ehe just wore what was given. "JAKE APOLOGISE" will u die if he doesnt? 💀 are you that obsessed that u need hos apology to continue living? I was so mad at those so called "Engenes" during the live. Because a true fan wouldn't do anything to make an idol feel bad etc

[@gamewithgamer4076]

Why are you trying to impersonate yourself as a fan of ENHYPEN??? don't.. It's clearly seen that you don't like them.. Otherwise you wouldn't drag some strange and misunderstood issues about them..If you have problems with some toxic people don't blame the whole fandom for it..We don't stand for toxicity at all...And what do you mean by Engenes need a reality check??? how are you involving all of us..?? most of us like I, never wished any bad or harm to any groups, they all belong to the same community, the kpop world and we respect everyone..

[@ongaku-chan5130]

I honestly don’t see the point of this video. You’re talking as if all Engenes are toxic, when in reality most of them are totally normal, and as if other fandoms don’t have a toxic part. Like, if I had to leave every fandom I’m part of just because I don’t want to be compared to the toxic people in it, then I would not be a Kpop stan anymore because I would have to leave literally every fandom. And, about toxic people in fandoms, Moas are not excluded, I’m saying this because the way you turned the «Moa vs Engene» thing was making them look like saints, when, not later than the day before yesterday, I saw two toxic Moas (they were really embarrassing themselves until the end, at a point I was finding it funny) denigrating Jungwon’s talent to make Yeonjun «shine» (and there’s also the moment when Jay got hate for hiding TXT by standing up in front of the camera 💀). But, even with this bad encounter, am I going to hate all the fandom and say that they’re all toxic ? No. Also, I personally never encountered a toxic Engene before (fortunately), and all of the ones I saw were really cool. Lastly, it’s kind of weird to do a video about a fandom you’re not even in, especially if you don't know how the fandom is behaving recently, because, saying that the fandom is really toxic and taking, as examples, things that happened a year, or some years ago, is not credible, because it’s simply not showing how the fandom is now. (Btw, people have different mindsets depending on the country in which they were born and raised, that’s clearly why US and European fans are usually more open-minded than Asian ones for some things) I think that the fandom is really cool right now, the vibe is mostly positive and the way US Engenes treated the boys during Fate+ tour enchanted everyone. There will, unfortunately, always be toxic people, haters and hypocritical people, but it’s how popularity and success work, you can’t only have fans, you have to get the whole package, or nothing, and if I have to compare it to something that everyone is going through at a moment in life, I would say that High school is kind of the same lol. (But not as much obviously) So, our job as fans is to make their lives a little easier and to bring them joy, at our level, like they’re doing for us, not to post demoralizing videos which are not making things move, thanks.

[@kaya20_56]

Engenes are still toxic unfortunately obviously not all of them but a good handful full and as a black person ever since the whole heesung situation I haven’t been able to look at them the same. It was truly disgusting

[@ongaku-chan5130]

​@kaya20_56 I didn't say they were not toxic anymore, I said they were less. I-Engenes are really chill and cool, toxic Engenes are mostly Korean and Chinese (not all, obviously!). The Heeseung situation is sad and disgusting, but there were only some toxic Engenes who said/did disgusting things, not all the fandom, but, like always, toxic fans are louder than normal fans, making it look like everyone did/said horrible things, unfortunately. (I would say that unfortunately, there are still a lot of rasist people in the world and that it's possible that some people who said horrible things were, in reality, not even Engenes, and were just jobless and dumb people who decided to make the situation worse) I'll also say that, Heeseung was not very very good at English, and that he was just humming, without any bad intentions, so I can understand it can be shocking for black fans, but I personally think that it would've been way more shocking if it was an official cover (but obviously, it's still important to e͟d͟u͟c͟a͟t͟e͟ idols when they did something not acceptable as a public figure) Seeing all the scandals created by the (unintentional) use of the n-word, I'm starting to think it would be better if artists stopped using it in almost all of their songs ! And, I'm sorry if you had to witness this situation ! (I'm sorry I wrote a lot)

[@Staniell_1]

I have no idea why when the op was talking about k-profile and enhypens voting poles it made me laugh 😭😭💀💀 and i dont understand why moas and engenes have beef YOUR IDOLS ARE LITERALLY FRIENDS! And im a muslim engene and its not Jakes fault that the stylist made jake wear that necklace

[@mntchoco_7]

I’m an Engene/Moa but I refuse to tell anyone because I’m just ashamed

[@gamewithgamer4076]

I don't understand what's the point of adding Enhypen members past issues which are totally misunderstood by people..Why would you drag Enhypen members in this if you have some beefs with Engenes???? tell me what do you want to prove??? that we are bad?? why did you write Engenes as whole when you said not all of them are problematic.. What's your problem???

[@psdoyoo]

Im sorry but i still can't hear Heeseung saying the n word, for me he's just saying gibberish, i can't hear any n

[@choisan-hj3yz]

Im sorry but what's the intention of this video? To shade the fandom or ENHYPEN themselves?

[@maxadamdor]

Youre so frickin right. Im an engene and i hate this side of engenes.

[@hyunjinsfoot]

I'm a multi-stan and an Ehypen fan but I refuse to call myself an Engene because this fandom got too embarrassing

[@straytistic]

dont get me started on the jake situation bc that shit put a mark on me me im muslim and what jake and niki wore was def disrespectful but whats even worse is the engenes jumped at us like omg.

[@gamewithgamer4076]

What's important is that Jake personally apologized,,he didn't even know what it was..his stylist made him wear that and he didn't know what was written on that . I'm Muslim too..and what's important to us is if someone apologizes for the mistake we should forgive..and we did..It was completely the stylists fault yet Jake said sorry....

[@Engene_enha1]

The majority of engenes didn't just jump on Muslims they did it to the ones insulting and degrading the boys because of something that had no control over they didn't dress themselves and some Muslims were insulting them instead of calling out the company which was wrong, so it wasn't only engenes that were wrong but also the Muslims being shady towards the boys

[@everythingnothing2978]

ni-ki didnt wore anything disrespectful. He just wore a turkish flag shirt and even many muslims wear crescent moon shirt. What do you mean? are you really a muslim

[@everythingnothing2978]

and if you are a muslim then you should know that crescent moon isnt an official symbol for islam, it's the syahada. Correct yourself first before hating

[@enjeanss]

Are you stanning the fandom or the group? The toxic fans dont represent the whole fandom. about the moa vs engene, this is all not engenes faults as you say it is and i stan both groups. both fandoms are in the wrong, not just engenes.

[@Engene_enha1]

1.) Ni-ki is 18 already (correction to you saying he wasn't). 2.) If you really do know anything about enhypen like you say you do you would know that Ni-ki's mom gave him alot of vitamins that helps in his growth he has said it multiple times even the members confirmed it, it has nothing to do with his company. 3. Ni-ki has also said that he hates being seen as cute, so of course he changed his style to fit the style he wants and thats okay not everyone wants to be "cute".

[@gamewithgamer4076]

Please, you're trying to potray us bad...Like we were never attacked,like some toxic fans of Txt never attacked Enhypen..We also had to deal with a lot..even till this day..When we try to normalise things between fandoms, people like you try to spark tge fire again for nothing..Every fandom faced issues and faces...We, Engenes are not different from it..We are not living in the clouds,, there's a lot who don't like us...If you can make a video, I can make 10..but I won't cz I've seen how Txt and Enhypen are so close..I can't hurt them for some toxics and kiddos.... And most of Engenes and Moas relationships are also very good excepts some weirdos who are in every fandom....So please don't try to make us look bad..We Engenes respect everyone and Every fandom...

[@nerakrich3610]

You took down my comment because you know that I was telling the truth. You have proved my suspicion of you being a Enhypen and Engene hater. You are pretending to like Enhypen and saying the Engenes are toxic when you know that most of them are toxic solo stans and Enhypen haters.

[@txt.moa_luvs]

If you are talking about your reply that Sooha represents Engenes, it’s still there. Maybe KZbin isn’t showing it to you right now, but I haven’t deleted anything.

[@zeronini_]

​@@txt.moa_luvs well no, sooha doesn't represent engenes and enhypen proved it themselves

[@nerakrich3610]

​@@zeronini_that was just my opinion and it ain't that serious.

[@nerakrich3610]

​@@txt.moa_luvsyou know what I'm talking about. You made this video slandering Engenes while pretending to care so much about Enhypen when must of the haters are solo stans who don't even like Engene. So stop discouraging people from joining our fandom. We aren't all immature kids, their are a lot of mature, responsible adults in the fandom who as better things to than to come on social media to argue with relevant people. No fandom is perfect. The problem between Moa and Engene started way before there was even a fandom called Engene. It was during I-land when Moas and fans from other fandom criticized the show saying that it is a flop and that the group would also flop, even spreading rumors about Enhypen. Whenever someone post lies about our boys they jump on it and have a lot to say and yes Engenes defended Enhypen like they should, but I understand that some things were said that was not acceptable. Don't be bias toxic Moas are to be blamed too.

[@iloveenha]

what can you expect from a moa💀