Should you go LiTime Lithium for your trolling motor? Yes! and here's why

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[@RobertSipes-tf5sv]

I don’t care if you’re trolling, RVing or running a solar pump to water a garden, Lith is the way to go. I ran a test on my RV where I turned everything that ran on 12 volts on after dark so that my solar panel wasn’t generating. I did this for my lead acid then repeated the next night for my LifePo. The lead acid went to 50% in an hour, it took 5 hours to get there for the lithium battery. The bonus was less weight on my hitch.

[@MichaelMedeiros-nm8wo]

Two years later this motor is going strong kzbin.infoUgkxBZWgzfpS2Jj7JqIHyaSZjyVHNUgCKCBf Just uploaded a video of it after 2 years. We use it probably a dozen days each year on our small raft.-original review- We got this motor the other day and tested it out. I don't have anything to compare it to, but it seems good to me. It has all the features advertised - the motor housing is metal. We will see how it performs longer term and I will revise this review if needed. Some initial observations:- Good thrust, moves our boat around really well- It comes with a circuit breaker but no switch - so there's no way to kill the motor other than yanking the connection off the battery. I installed an inline switch.- The mount bracket is plastic and I worry it might break- There are a number of plastic parts that I worry about, but the most important ones are metal or some kind of composite

[@mchurch3905]

I’ve got 3 AGMs,group 27, for my 36-volt bow mount troller. My boat is a 22ft., older aluminum in-board jet. I paid mid $250 for each one from Cabela. They are 6 years old and I try to keep their charge topped off all the time. They weigh 50+ pounds each. When they finally give up (hopefully not in the middle of a fishing trip) I’ll probably replace them with Lithium batteries. Just not looking forward to shelling out the $6-$7-$8 hundred….😢

[@LVCMS]

That weight saving is incredible.

[@retiredguyadventures6211]

I needed another trolling motor battery that does double duty in my camper. I usually get an AGM battery, but decided to go with the new LiTime "trolling motor" battery with low temp protection. It was $309 during Prime Days. I will probably get a second one for going parallel in a solar set up for the camper.

[@hayesrutherford9415]

Went the same route last season when they were 299.99 and a two bank charger. No problems going out three or four times between charging. I still need to install a weather tight socket so I can connect an extension cord without climbing into the boat (welded aluminum Hewescraft) This will help many who are undecided.

[@EngineeredAngler]

Thank you for sharing.

[@pmpkmc]

Nice, i really like those Lifepo4 batteries. A couple of years ago i got the Newport vessels Kayak motor and a 24v 60aH Lifepo4 battery to power it. being out for 6-8 hours i never even got lower than 80% on my power meter. I fish in the mouth of a river but get speeds in the 5-7 mph most days. I also got a 80 AH one but it is too heavy and just overkill so i'll hold on to it for a trolling motor whenever i get a boat.

[@EngineeredAngler]

Awesome thanks for sharing

[@shazhu2455]

13.14V is about 50% full instead of 99%. Half fully charged LiFePO4 is the recommended charge level for long term storage of the battery.

[@user-qn6pq8zo6t]

What is the grey board in the background you are using to hang your lures on?? Great video by the way I’ve been considering making the jump to lithium and can’t wait to get them in my bass boat!

[@EngineeredAngler]

It's sheet metal...I use magnetic hooks to hang the lures.

[@CraftsmanontheLake]

I live on a lake and have an 18 ft sailing catamaran converted into a fishing boat. I have two 36ah electric motors and that is my sole source of propulsion. I replaced my AGM's with a 202 ah Bigbattery (the name of the company). Four li batteries with BMS, fuse, CO2 fire supression all in a stainless steel case with handles. About 60 lbs. It goes from my boat to camper when I need it and connects with anderson connectors. They must last awhile because it has a 10 yr warranty from the company. I too have a victron charger and victron shunt. Very satisfied. All good quality and they have great performance. I got the unit because AGM's begin to lag after about 3 yrs use and I needed to replace them. I figure the cost will be the same or less over time with lithium's longevity. And I get about 25% longer run time before charging for the same ah. As always, thnx for the video.

[@EngineeredAngler]

That's really interesting. I was thinking of converting a catamaran into a fishing platform too. Still might do it someday.

[@clintfulbright1596]

The built in BMS is actually the charger, it charges each cell, there is 4 cells per battery, they have to be balanced. It just needs voltage. You can use any AMG rated charger with no issue.

[@mikewilliams5732]

I read you need a upgraded charger.

[@russhood6747]

Have seen the 12v 100ah mini from LiTime

[@tomecalm7]

I'm looking to upgrade my kayak to a trolling motor powered version. I've already added lights, anchor trolley, and fish finder. Paddling was ok for a while, but I want to cruise. Lol

[@EngineeredAngler]

I know the feeling...

[@tomecalm7]

@@EngineeredAngler that battery is sitting in my Amazon cart. Lol

[@lukejohnson4708]

Great video going to order 2 of these to control my ultrex trolling motor what charger did you go with didn’t see it in the link and how long does it take to charge them also do you leave them plugged in to charge all the time when your not using thanks have a blessed evening

[@EngineeredAngler]

I got a special deal on the chargers I got but if I were to pay out of my pocket this is the charger I would buy: amzn.to/3OH7mH2

[@MrFredsDIY]

Great video review. DIY Solar with Will Prowse here in Las Vegas also likes this brand at this price point. I have a project or two that will fit this battery perfectly! One note about Lithium and the environment, as you stated the battery itself is comparatively not as toxic as lead acid but the uncomfortable truth is that most lithium is mined in places where environmental stewardship is not even a thing. A quick google search will reveal the dark secrets of the lithium fields of South America and China. The extraction process of lithium is very water intense and creates vast toxic lagoons not to mention the entire mining per ton of lithium is extremely carbon emission heavy. Perhaps some day this will change and my hope is that it does because this technology is pretty amazing. Thanks for the video!

[@EngineeredAngler]

It's always a complicated picture when you look closer. Thanks for sharing.

[@LarryMeltonJr]

Great video!

[@EngineeredAngler]

Thank you.

[@FreedomFishing]

I got one of those last year by Ampere Time, when it was $450 for battery and charger. No problems so far, and lasts all day on the water!

[@FreedomFishing]

Have you came across a legitimate LiP04 battery meter tester, other than testing the voltage to estimate the percentage remaining?

[@EngineeredAngler]

Nice to hear

[@jcnopenny4725]

Hi Franco, I got the exact trolling motor in this video. I usually fish once a week and around 8hrs each trip and charge the batteries after every trip. Wondering if I can save a little money and go with the 60ah. Like to hear your input.

[@EngineeredAngler]

I think a 60 ah battery would work and would probably be a bit better than your typical deep cycle battery. A typical lead acid will have around 80 to 90 ah but you can only really use around 50% of that so a 60 ah would be a slight upgrade with a big reduction in weight.

Hello, do you have any idea how you can monitor the voltage of this battery? It has simple BMS from jbd and I don't know what voltmeter to look for it. I will use it on an electric boat motor.

[@EngineeredAngler]

You can buy a simple battery monitor with a shunt.

[@cichfish7525]

I’m looking to start off a kayak build with a 12v 55 lb thruster. Would you go for a 12v 55 ah lithium battery?

[@EngineeredAngler]

sure...for a kayak that should work really well.

[@danielwebb5595]

Great video and information. I was looking to have a particular question answered and you addressed it here. I was wondering if the same lithium battery for Trolling motor could be used for cranking battery. So, it looks like I will want to keep a lead acid for cranking even if I go with lithium. Also means I will need either two chargers or a charger that can charge both. Thanks

[@EngineeredAngler]

Yes, your right on your assumptions.

[@chrisgirouard213]

Which model charger are those?

[@halfaistos]

I watched your video several times.. very informative! Thank you! I like the Idea of using 2 separate charger. Could you tell what Victron are you using? There is several of Victron Blue Smart chargers ... (choice from 7amp to 25) The more charging amps the better? Thank you!

[@EngineeredAngler]

It was the victron 5 amp. The higher the rating the quicker the charge. 5 amps works for me, they recharge over night.

[@halfaistos]

@@EngineeredAngler Thank you! Two-15 amp Victron are pretty pricey though! And at least on more dual battery and another charger I just bought 2x 100amp Trolling motor battery for my Ulterra...however I watched pretty interesting video about charging and discharging lead vs lithium battery, motor running time etc. There is always devil in paradise! On the video this guy discharged battery using the Ulterra motor, dipped in the barrel.(no wind or current) When the lithium battery was discharged to zero he couldn't stowed the motor... no juice. That worrying me!

[@billybunter5575]

do you need a special battery charger for the lithium battery or can you use a ordianary car battery charger.

[@EngineeredAngler]

Many standard chargers have a lithium battery setting.

[@jwblount7802]

question..... If you have a 12volt xi3 motorguide trolling motor with spot lock could you take an old xi5 24 volt trolling and switch the shaft and motor to the xi3 head and make it a 24 volt with spot lock. What do think?

[@EngineeredAngler]

I'm not sure how much of the spot lock circuitry is tied up with the motor control. Might not be as simple as it sounds.

[@jwblount7802]

@@EngineeredAngler What I have found since asking this question is, you can purchase a 12 volt/ 24 volt circuit board for the xi3 and a 12v /24v/36v circuit board for the xi5. All the rest of the trolling motors parts are the same whether it is a 12/24/ or 36 volt motors the circuit board it is how it controlled is the difference. So as long as you have the right volt armature for that circuit board it should work. At least I think so!! Thanks

[@waterdoglures1352]

Franco, I should have bought it when I first saw your video and they were still at $309. Bought on the 13th at $319 and today their at $349. Couldn’t get your discount code to work on Amazon but it worked on the manufacturer’s direct link. Thank you for the additional savings. How long did it take for them to send you a shipping tracking number? How long to arrive?

[@EngineeredAngler]

Really glad you got a break on the price....

[@bobtomlinson8247]

That should have read....what victron charger did you buy? I have a pair of LiTime 12.8v batteries set up in series. Can they be charged with 24v or 29.4 charger?

[@EngineeredAngler]

I used two victron blue IP67. I used two because I could get them cheaper than a single double bank charger. Here's a link (below) to the best price I have been able to find. If you charge a two battery bank with a single charger, the charger will see it as a single battery and that is not ideal. It's best to use a double output 12v charger. powerstore.com/catalog/product/view/id/158?PMAX_Sotrage_Solutions&+adwords&{ad}&gclid=CjwKCAjwxaanBhBQEiwA84TVXNFGAn3DvdkvFt774hqLXwrHEG5O__idlw8ngQVIOUUqvz4DXDUMOBoCPq4QAvD_BwE

[@donniefoster7713]

I’m in the market for a new trolling battery and with all the research I’ve done it’s hard to beat Power Queen they run the battery on sale and you can get 12.8volt 100Ah for $229

[@Jeff-gu6nb]

Litime has really good internal construction

[@kamara4700]

I'm a little confused. So this battery is 12v 100ah and my currently deep cycle lead acid is also 12v 100ah. Are they the same amount of run time on my motor or are they different? I think what I am hearing is same run time but full power to the bitter end unlike the lead acid battery. Is that correct?

[@sherriali1029]

You can use the full 100ah from the lithium battery, but the lead acid will give you 50ah if you want it to last. Also lead acid batteries are quite heavy!

[@EngineeredAngler]

Actually because you can't drain the power of the lead acid battery much below 60%, the full capacity of the battery is not available. The lithium batteries will provide usable power down to 80% discharge. Run time is way higher. Plus battery life is much longer too.

[@kennyjimenezjr.1348]

I have a 24v 80lb thrust trolling motor what battery would you recommend 2 12vs or one 24v and what size ah ? Thanks

[@EngineeredAngler]

I would go with a single 24V 200 amp hour if cost is not an issue but if your budget minded you can pick up 2 100Ahr 12v batteries for less than $300 each. LiTime is having a sale and they are still honoring the discount code you can find in the description of the video.

[@juderyan1284]

Nice video Franco, nice change of pace/ style. Always something to fix right? Looking forward to next Friday 😀

[@EngineeredAngler]

Yes! Thank you!

[@jerrykrobby]

So can you plug in that lithium charger and leave it plugged in? My on board Minn Kota 4 bank charger (for lead acid) has a maintainer function. Hopefully your charger does too.

[@EngineeredAngler]

yes absolutely chargers have gotten smarter and smarter.

[@Cyrus747]

How do they hold up to heat while being used? Can I put them in a minn kota battery box? Are they waterproof and have bms?

[@EngineeredAngler]

They are pretty much water tight but I wouldn't submerge them. They do have built in BMS's and if they get too hot they shut themselves down. But I have never experienced that and mine are enclosed in the batter lockers under the deck sitting in the Florida sun all day.

[@dahutful]

Lithium is great as long as you can pay for them. Prices have come down, but their cost is still prohibitive depending on budget. There ais also a minor wiring concern to bear in mind. Because the voltage output stays consistent across the discharge cycle with lithiums, you don't need to oversize any of your wires to compensate for voltage loss in wiring - this is often done with AGM's as the cable length increases. SO thats good. And as long as you never use anything BUT lithium batteries, thats great. However if you are forced to go with something else, the wiring might present a power loss problem. Minor, but something to keep in mind. And that flatline voltage during dischare has caught a few people unawares - the battery just dies, fully depleted. AGM's will also crap out when the voltage drops below threshold - but they wont be depleted. And full depletion is bad juju for batteries. As long as you tune in to your batteries monitors religiously, and have the right one for lithium cells, you should be golden. Ive also heard people claim that because lithiums have a built in BMS, you can dispense with overcurrent/short circuit disconnects - circuit breakers, in other words. But you'd be foolish to dispense with the protection they offer, and its still ABYC* code to have them, so we wont go there. * - American Boat and Yacht Council Lithiums dont give you *more* power - they give you a constant output voltage over longer current delivery times before depletion. Thats not bad, and they do it at half the weight. In time, lithiums will probably take over the market. I get AGM batteries for free at the moment, so it would be crazy to jump into lithiums at 3x the money. But some day...... Maybe I'll have someone give them to me for review! Great video, THANKS! David SC

[@EngineeredAngler]

Thanks for the input.

[@gilianrampart8514]

Lithium gives you more power and that why minkota says only go 85% power if using lithium!

[@dahutful]

@@gilianrampart8514 they don’t give you more power - they deliver a rated amount of current over time. 100 amp hours is 100 amp hours, no matter which battery type you use, or how you consume it. It’s like the gas tank in a car… there’s only so much capacity in it. LiPo’s just produce the power they deliver differently, is all.

[@foghole9449]

I dont understand why you could use smaller wire , if your using lithium batties? 50amps is still 50 amps, the wire would still heat up if you used to small a wire,(yes/no)?

[@bobtomlinson8247]

@@dahutful .

[@jbkahl]

So in a 17ft aluminum bass boat how may hours of trolling time should I get out of a single charge with that battery hopefully a full day?

[@EngineeredAngler]

A full day easy...probably two

[@buddyp4928]

What hardware do you need to go from lead acid to lithium, terminals etc....? Thank you in advance!

[@EngineeredAngler]

Nothing...just be sure your battery charger will charge lithium batteries. Most new chargers come ready for lithium.

[@10000Islands]

you were using a marine starting and a marine deep cycle for your 24 volt trolling motor?

[@EngineeredAngler]

Yup

[@day-cinvacuums5909]

Been watching your first Lithium battery. Li Time. I've got these same batteries. I even own the trolling motor you tested with. I need to see and watch your Part #2 of your video. Please advise. Dave H.

[@EngineeredAngler]

Coming soon....was just out on the water today but I plan to do a full fishing day video.

[@day-cinvacuums5909]

@@EngineeredAngler Franco, using the same trolling motor? I'm interested in how fast and how long. I'm actually in the process of using the same batteries, plus a Minn Kota, 24 V, 80 lb thrust. Thank you.

[@Fj4LiFe23]

Do they have low temp charging? looking for a trolling motor battery solution for the northeast..

[@EngineeredAngler]

No, as of now, for low temp charging you have to go to a heated battery, those can be pricy. Things are changing pretty quickly with this technology though....

[@thanemccaffrey8033]

Great video

[@EngineeredAngler]

Thanks!

[@garyheath9531]

How much are the chargers?

[@bobtomlinson8247]

I just bought two like you did... $339 -with additional 6 per cent off plus tax....22 pounds each.

[@EngineeredAngler]

Nice.

[@dustinpalecek5863]

Can you use one of these to start a mercury 150 proxs?

[@EngineeredAngler]

No not really, I won't put out more that 150 peak amps

[@WoodboogerFishing]

I’m pretty cheap. But that might just be worth i…🤔 Good video👍🙂

[@EngineeredAngler]

Fair enough!

[@striperhunter-ic2wt]

Does the cold have any effect on those batteries? Looking forward to part 2

[@EngineeredAngler]

The battery will not accept a charge in temperatures below freezing. And it will shut its self down below -4 deg F

[@gilianrampart8514]

​​@@EngineeredAngler that battery may take a charge below 32f but it will damage the batter. Other models of Li time and more expensive batteries have low temp protection.

[@socalangler951]

I didn't see you part two of your new LiTime battery usage, Also, what are your thoughts on the potential damage to trolling motors due the higher voltage of Lithiums. This quote is from Minn Kota....."Minn Kota trolling motors can run on Lithium-Ion batteries. However, they are specifically designed to run on traditional lead acid batteries (flooded, AGM or GEL). Lithium-Ion batteries maintain higher voltages for longer periods of time than lead-acid. Therefore, running a Minn Kota trolling motor at speeds higher than 85% for a prolonged period could cause permanent damage to the motor." Do you keep your TM at settings 8 or less?

[@EngineeredAngler]

There's no real chance of damage do to voltage. But remember to disconnect the motor while you're charging, but that goes for all batteries.

[@Fishman1]

Do lithium batteries need to be installed in a plastic box protected from moisture?

[@EngineeredAngler]

No... they are pretty water tight

[@Sylvan_dB]

You cannot tell LiFePO4 state of charge by voltage unless they are within a percent or two of 100% or 0%.

[@EngineeredAngler]

I was using the data table supplied by the manufacturer

[@Sylvan_dB]

@@EngineeredAngler yup. that table is at best incomplete/misleading. the discharge curve of lifepo4 is so flat that the voltage varies more by factors other than state of charge such as load, time since charge/load, etc. the only way to really know is a shunt-based battery monitor that measures amp-hours in and out, and that needs to start from fully charged. What you will find in use is nearly constant voltage until it falls off a cliff and you are done. I was wondering if you would run into this issue while fishing. Luckily you didn't.

[@c.shoefish]

50 ah or 100ah for a 24v MK fortrex (eventually terrova) on a 16' v hull? I do lake fishing, and want to start fishing electric only lakes and rivers. Buying two 100s is a lot of money, but if its required i can justify it. If its overkill, ill do the 50s...help please.

[@EngineeredAngler]

You can go with the 50's if you don't plan to run at high amps for long stretches, like crossing a big lake. With slow to medium speeds, you can probably get 6 hour+. They have a really good sale right now, use the Franco discount code.

[@c.shoefish]

@@EngineeredAngler some of these electric lakes are a good size and I'll want to cross em fast, so 100s it is. Thanks so much for the reply

[@kevinatwell9781]

thank you so much for this! Is there a 'better' brand of lithium battery or all they all about the same?

[@EngineeredAngler]

There are large variety that differ in years of warranty and optional equipment. The key is what you plan to use them for.

[@ErikStave]

How are the new batteries? any news to share? Any updates?

[@EngineeredAngler]

Full field test coming next Friday

[@bobtomlinson8247]

What Did from charger did you get?

[@EngineeredAngler]

I show them in the video.

[@humminbird_tips_and_tricks]

Test the short circut protection in the next video.... do it outside.

[@patskanes5262]

Franco, I feel you have missed one very important point in using Lithium batteries. I also noted this issue with everyone else giving options using Lithium batteries on KZbin. This point may not be important to you as you live in Florida. However, I am sure you and well as other KZbinrs have views from around the US, Canada and other parts of the world. I feel that views may take your opinion and recommendations as you are a Professional Engineer and research is a big part of you daily activities. I feel that all information should be provided even if it is not important to your case. I am myself a retired Engineer. The point is You Cannot Charge the Lithium Batteries if they are cold. That is being below 0 degrees F. Unless the Lithium Battery is made for cold weather use. Also, taking the voltage of the Lithium Battery will not give you adequate data. Your reading was 13.14 volts which you said is 99% charge, that is not true. If anyone used a tool with a Lithium Battery they will know that they have full power until the time the tool stops working. The important thing to know is the SOC (stage of charge) of the battery. When I got my Lithium batteries, they had a voltage of 13.17 volts, but the SOC was 40%. My Lithium batteries have a heating blanket within the battery case and they also have the Bluetooth so I know what is going on with each battery. Lastly, you can get Lithium batteries to crank over your motor. However, they are made with a crank rating. But first contact your motor manufacture it see if the warrant will be voided if you use a Lithium battery or what steps you need to take. You will most likely have to put some sort of Capacitor Pack between you motor and battery. This is my 2 cents on Lithium batteries after having done research for over 2 years. Franco is right, there has been a lot of changes to Lithium batteries over that last few years. When I first started to do research no manufacture, I found would say their batteries can be charged when it is cold. Just in case anyone want to know my setup. I have 4 Lithium batteries at 100 Ah each, 3 to run my 112 lb 36 volt trolling motor and 1 to run my electronics. I am keeping one Lead Acid battery to start of motors only. I have a 4-bank charge to charge all my Lithium batteries. I wont say the manufacture as I am going to install them on my boat later in March and won’t be able to know how they work until the end of the season.

[@EngineeredAngler]

You are correct...I can't argue with any of your points. Thank you for offering it up in the comments. I didn't really mean for the video to be a full analysis of the value and limitations of lithium batteries. That's why I suggested that folks look up other KZbin's who have the electronic equipment to do thorough tests and complete dismantling and review. Thank you again. Cheers.

[@patskanes5262]

@@EngineeredAngler Franco, Thanks for the comments. I was really worried about posting it. Not sure how it would be taken. I really like you channel as it puts an Engineering spin on how to make lures. I am sure I won’t be taking up that hobby anytime soon but still like to watch someone with the skills you have. PS: so glad I don’t have to do mathematical calculations anymore. This side of working is great.

[@jasonbroom7147]

You cannot tell state of charge for a LiFeP04 battery using voltage. A battery showing 13.14 volts could be 20% or 80% charged...you really don't know. If you have one near 10 volts, it's close to zero state of charge, but fully charged (before resting) is going to be 3.65v per cell, or around 14.4 volts. That will drop down as the cells "rest", but suffice to say you can't tell much about the state of charge for this kind of battery using a volt meter. I installed two 100ah lithium IRON-phosphate batteries on my boat to drive a 24v trolling motor. What I found is it's more battery than you need...they would last 3 or 4 FULL days of fishing. I then built, using components, a 50AH, 24v battery. This reduced my total battery weight from 130lbs down to less than 40. I'm also using smaller, dedicated 12v LiFePO4 batteries to power my live bait aerator and electronics.

[@EngineeredAngler]

I was using a chart supplied by the manufacturer that relates voltage voltage level to battery state. But you're right that's not a typical way of Determining a charge state

[@quarkkinoanimals5444]

Also it's much safer to get a Gel deepcycle battery. This video is crap how he sais he is "professional". Noob.

[@jasonbroom7147]

@@quarkkinoanimals5444 - None of the lead-acid battery chemistries, including Gel or AGM, are any safer than a lithium iron-phosphate battery. I've been running them on my boat, for the trolling motor and electronics, for years. These are not the lithium- NMC batteries that can suffer thermal runaway. Those are potentially dangerous, but the LFP batteries are just as safe as any lead-acid battery.

[@demetriogranados3879]

would these work for a 36v set up as well ?

[@EngineeredAngler]

Yes...just follow the directions for series wiring.

[@demetriogranados3879]

@@EngineeredAngler Awesome thank you !!! and great video brother !!!

[@bretfelknor8893]

Great video thank! Do you know if Li batteries work with 15-20yr old Minn Kota trolling motors?

[@EngineeredAngler]

If the motor still works the batteries are compatible.

[@almighty3372]

Does Lithium battery has Deep cycle type? or all Lithium battery are all the same?? You mean no need to specifically look for Deep Cycle Lithium Battery, but just Lithium battery?? sorry if the question is too naive.

[@EngineeredAngler]

That's the beauty of lithium, they cycle deeper than any deep cycle lead acid you can buy.

[@richardnixon7739]

Wondering why you called that a good battery right out of the Box before you Tried it

[@EngineeredAngler]

Because I had done my research and watched some videos where these batteries were tested and then dismantled. The results were good for each.

[@craigcoble]

So these batteries are Bluetooth capable?

[@EngineeredAngler]

No...the chargers are

[@Harry455.]

I belive your battries are lithium IRON phosphate. ( Fe) not the same as ion

[@EngineeredAngler]

Good catch...defiantly a goof on my part. I meant to say Lithium Iron Phosphate.

[@Straight0uttaCrofton]

these would power my entire village

[@garyheath9531]

I fish bfl how can I get them to sponsor me 2 of these and I can promote this to tournament anglers there is close to 200 boats in these tournaments I could increase sales for them

[@EngineeredAngler]

Send them an email

[@garyheath9531]

@@EngineeredAnglerhow much are those chargers?where do I get them

[@kickgas7171]

LiTime has now started using low cost pouch cells in their batteries.

[@EngineeredAngler]

Actually pouch cells are more expensive to manufacture. They are used where higher energy density is desired (smaller package same power). They tend to be more stable and are able to put out higher amp flow than prismatic cells. The cycle life is the same as long as the battery cases are firm and non flexible.

[@kickgas7171]

@@EngineeredAngler That may be true with high quality pouch cells made by the big name brand manufacturers like LG, Panasonic, Samsung, EVE, BYD and others, but I can assure you that LiTime's sub $300 batteries are not using cells from any of these manufacturers. We have built and tested several packs using low cost Chinese pouch cells and over multiple charge/discharge cycles, they all began ballooning, some of these cells actually began to delaminate as a result of electrolyte decomposition as the packed aged. Using these cheap pouch cells in a firm non-flexible casing would only have damaged the BMS as the cells expanded.

[@hvacguy1127]

👎 I have 3 litime batteries. I’ve just had one fail after only one year of little use. 100 size. I have contacted their customer service and will update on how they handle warranty.

[@EngineeredAngler]

Wow that sucks....I have five and no issues.

[@JH-jb9gj]

@@EngineeredAnglerhow long have you had them?

[@EngineeredAngler]

@@JH-jb9gj The oldest ones are almost 2 years old but have 34 full cycles on them I'm tracking the cycles. But they've been sitting half charged and unused for the last 3 months we'll see how they survived that.

[@Schira02]

Do you know what is the maximum continuous current draw for that battery? I know the company says 100A. But I wanted to find out the actual Current draw at which the BMS would cut off.

[@rider660r]

I'll stick to the WEIZE batts

[@chrisgilbert4146]

If it's cold where you fish.....dont waste your money on lithium.

[@EngineeredAngler]

I live in Florida

[@LVCMS]

Yup here if Florida also but if use this for a camper could be an issue.

[@akpoindexter1982]

Had to bail....The editing every 2-3 seconds was distracting.

[@EngineeredAngler]

noted.

[@akpoindexter1982]

​@@EngineeredAngler I failed to let you know that I felt that the content is great. Thanks for working on these for us!!! :-)

[@chriss8206]

Alright I'm still watching the video and I can't help it. another claim completely safe for the environment and non toxic where are you getting your information from.

[@EngineeredAngler]

Don't put words in my mouth... There's nothing on this planet that's completely safe and there's nothing that we do as humans that's completely good for the environment.

[@chriss8206]

@@EngineeredAngler Here's the receipt on the timestamp at 6:45 you state that these are completely safe for the environment those are the words out of your mouth.

[@EngineeredAngler]

That's not true, I say they are non toxic, unlike lead. You have to agree that the final product is less of a toxic hazard than a box filled with lead and sulfuric acid.

[@chriss8206]

Wait I'm sorry man, but you're Misleading people. there are still inferior batteries on the market that are having fire issues as we speak and as you make this video and as I write this comment. so don't make the claim that every lithium battery is the same you're gonna get if you pay for. cheap lithium batteries you're not gonna get any overload protection in them and you're gonna have fire issues potentially .I've seen it a 100 times over so don't make concrete claims that all lithium batteries now are safe and there is no fire hazard. You could Cost somebody their home and their lives charging lithium batteries and their boat in their garage..

[@EngineeredAngler]

Everyone should do their own research....

[@stephenhusak6098]

Do not bring lithium ion batteries inside your house or garages. They are dangerous and have caused more fires in the last year than ever before. Fire depts across the country are having to totally retrain on how to fight these fires.

[@EngineeredAngler]

Lithium iron phosphate batteries are being used everywhere. From cars, boats, RV's, homes, public buildings, and Hospitals.

[@stephenhusak6098]

@EngineeredAngler yup and they are dangerous as hell. Fire depts all across country are revamping to fight these fires. In NY City there were hundreds of them last year. Many resulting in deaths and dozens of familys in apt buildings homeless. They are impossible to estinguish.

[@jamesathendune9026]

I am sorry but Mr. Husak has a point. And I hope one day I can be proven wrong. Plus the pricing in my area is ridiculous. Going to wait for further assurance that these are safe and for economies of scale to kick in. Our boating season is too short to justify a large expenditure here. Enjoy your channel Franko, keep it up.

[@Sylvan_dB]

Stephen Husak You are confused about differences in chemistry. This video is about lithium iron phosphate (LiFePO4) batteries. The battery fires are lithium cobalt manganese batteries such as used in your phone or laptop, which have a higher voltage, higher energy density and are subject to thermal runaway (an exothermic reaction). LiFePO4 does not have that problem. LiFePO4 are safer than lead acid, do not emit acidic fumes as part of normal operation, but they are more easily damaged by abuse and they cost a lot more than flooded lead acid.

[@stephenhusak6098]

@Sylvan_dB no they are the batteries used in ebikes and hoover boards etc . 3 more fires in last 2 days in ny city

[@user-qn6pq8zo6t]

What is the grey board in the background you are using to hang your lures on?? Great video by the way I’ve been considering making the jump to lithium and can’t wait to get them in my bass boat!

[@EngineeredAngler]

Its a sheet of thin galvanized steel. I use magnetic pins to hang the lures.

[@glenncivale6824]

Great video!

[@EngineeredAngler]

Thanks!

[@elmore119]

What group battery exactly was it 31 . 24 trying to find the exact two you have

[@EngineeredAngler]

The lithium don't comply to the group sizes. You need to choose the amp hours you need and be sure the battery will fit.

[@elmore119]

@@EngineeredAngler I have all the room i need it going in a pontoon I would like to know what group you have