Engineering a 1000FT LONG PLANE in Kerbal Space Program 2!

[@jdraymon]

RCE: "do you not need tails on a plane? 5s later: puts plane into a death spin

[@chewy_chip756]

if you could control the ailerons like matt was (both up or both down) then in theory you could. On a conventional aircraft, there would be no way to control pitch/elevation.

[@jeffreyblack666]

@@chewy_chip756 The bigger issue is yaw. The vertical fin acts as a vertical stabiliser, to keep the plane flying straight instead of spinning out of control. Removing that requires complex designs to keep the plane stable, and to allow control of yaw.

[@BlakeAStoffel]

Even beyond this is the matter of center of gravity vs center of lift and the ability of the pitch control on just the wings to counteract the normal pitching of the aircraft. Usually it’s designed to be balanced by the tail in order to be stable and not as close together as RCE is making them.

[@barnykirashi]

No. Actually. You can make that work. Tailless Aircraft are some of the most efficient designs, but they are harder to balance out. Here's a quick list for some design study Horten Ho-229 Northrop XB-35 Northrop B-2 Spirit

[@BlakeAStoffel]

@@barnykirashi you can absolutely make a tailless airplane work as shown by your examples. It’s the ones that are designed with a tail that won’t be controllable if the tail is suddenly removed.

[@toastyeeter]

Engineers in movies: **extremely intelligent and sensible all the time** Engineers in real life:

[@maxtube444]

Wdym, this is perfectly intelligent and sensible

[@arandomcommenter412]

I highly doubt most engineers are like THIS.

[@farshnuke]

A Star Trek Engineer like Matt

[@Jowanoofy_ZO]

(Engineer is just a type aREAL engineer like science and space and engineering or call it einst-)

[@DumpsterJedi]

Finding breaking points is the MOST valuable information to an engineer...

[@AntellPryyde]

Matt, you can color individual parts. So if you want that third color, you can always just do a bit of *architecture* for it.

[@RealCivilEngineerGaming]

*violently vomits*

[@emperortrevornorton3119]

Not architecture if a engineer does it, it is artistic engineering

[@maxfjeld3791]

Yes

[@mishXY]

​@@emperortrevornorton3119 visual engineering

[@I_.-NHELV-._I]

​@@RealCivilEngineerGaming yep

[@Dumpw33d]

@Real Civil Engineer When in the Vab you can middle mouse click on a highlighted piece and the camera will move to that piece. Instead of reaching far away.

[@xarin42]

I wanted to like your comment ... but it has 69 likes at the moment.

[@SerbijaSupreme]

May Mriya rest in peace, we miss you, you beautiful An-225 🥲 Thank you for the heart RCE, definitely an Engineer thing to do

[@Antonov-225]

I'm in a better place now

[@faceless4k]

when you edit a comment you lose the heart

[@SerbijaSupreme]

@@faceless4k aw man

[@SerbijaSupreme]

@@Antonov-225 bless your soul

[@ledumpsterfire6474]

Holy shit what a Chad, he actually came back around and rehearted your comment after you lost it in the edit.

[@zacharylucchetti3038]

I think you know what’s next Matt. Make a flying bridge in KSP 2 lol. I think this videos creation is a great proof of concept.

[@Anti-Furry-Soldier-1291]

Sadly, the Antonov An-225 was destroyed during the war.

[@PolishCat-Mapping]

I throught everybody knew that.

[@Cory_Springer]

I saw AN-225 once while it was briefly at O'Hare. That was many years ago, but the sight of it triggered a deep fascination with all things aviation. I cried when it was destroyed by Russia's bombings of Ukraine.

[@alexandercaires5921]

IIRC there is a non-profit trying to restore it as it's so iconic

[@gaborszucs8935]

​@@alexandercaires5921supposedly there exists a non complete one that "just" needs finishing...(?)

[@loweway]

@@gaborszucs8935 yup

[@Lt_Noodles]

Watching RCE accidentally get a really good CoL position by accident only to immediately move it right back over the CoM hurt me in my tiny shrivelled green heart

[@Captainflywithfundo]

I’m so glad someone else is experiencing this pain hahahah

[@LolSho0orTs]

You are not in this alone.

[@JetJeb5648]

@@LolSho0orTs agreed

[@Lavaman_E89]

As someone who has no clue about where the positioning should be, where do you WANT the CoL compared to CoM??

[@maxwelllucas896]

@@Lavaman_E89 Center of lift just behind center of mass. CoL further forward is more maneuverable, further aft is more stable ie less likely for your plane to flip. If your CoL is in front of CoM, you need a computer to handle assist with controls. Too far aft and you might not lift off.

[@nicholaszonenberg8023]

If you click the little check list on the bottom of the VAB screen next to the wrench you'll get the Engineers Report which will show you the dimensions of your craft, it's Thrust to Weight ratio, and other useful info :)

[@ApofisRaxionNecros]

As fun as it is to see the chaos and learning curve, it's nice to see, just every once in a while, when Matt absolutely nails it first try.

[@chrissugg968]

12:51 if you increase the Anisotropic filtering to x16 in the graphics options it'll fix that. Increasing the AO stops textures looking weird when you look at them at a very shallow angle.

[@deeya]

Fun Fact: The front canards were what allowed the Concorde Rip-Off, the Soviet Tupolev Tu-144 (Concorde-ski) to beat the Concorde to first flight. The complex wing design that allowed for such an aircraft to fly at lower speeds (takeoff & landing) took years for the Anglo-French team to think up. The Soviets slapped a pair of canards on it and called it a day. If it works, it works. Right? But that was pretty much all that worked properly, as everything else was held together with duct tape. But to their credit they only suffered 2 crashes (considering my previous sentence), the first due to pilot error in making extreme maneuvers during a Paris Airshow. Some say to avoid a Mirage jetfighter that was attempting to take pics of the canards which were pretty advanced at the time. While initial French reports denied the existence of the fighter, recent ones have admitted to it. Another theory was that the pilot was trying to show off, pulling moves the plane can't do.

[@DaddysBelt92]

Wow you just made an air train. That's the pinnacle of advanced engineering.

[@Its_just_Dave.]

Next we need to see the longest and widest plane. Not only is it long, but it is wide also. Love that this plane worked. Was fun to watch.

[@BriefAnger]

Like a really long flying wing. That would be a sight

[@dylanzrim3635]

A choderplane

[@Mati_Balb]

Matt would be gladly hired by Ryanair due to his landing skills

[@maximchernyak4473]

Watching RCE build planes with near to none of understanding of aerodynamics is one of the most entretaining things ever. I end up in such thrill sitting and watching him crash over and over and thinking "will he finally do the right thing?" But he never does! And yet somehow he ends up having something that flies in the end in contradiction to all the conventions of flight. What did we learn?: making a missile-shaped (almost strong shape) plane works better than any fancy aerodynamics. FYI: It's not great to put the centre of lift exactly at the centre of mass, (unless you are building a missile of course). If CoM is in front of lift, you get much more stability (easier to control), but harder to lift off. If the CoM is behind lift, you get less stability, but easier takeoff and landing. Putting it in the middle just makes the aircraft rotate without affecting the direction of inertia, although the engines will eventually push you in the correct direction.

[@Nimmm03]

RCE: "I didn't expect this to work at all" Long-nosed plane: "Didn't I do it for you?"

[@thesturmvogel6359]

hey real pilot here who flew several second and third class experimental planes and did nearly a year long course that focused on critical failures and degradation of an aircraft in flight and to put it bluntly a simple aircraft doesnt need a tail if its ailerons or elevators are sufficient and it doesnt have a "nock pin" which is essentially where all the structural strength coverages at the tail A great example of this is a ww2 english Mosquito The plane was light for its size and its engines strong, and there are many example of Flak severing the tail completely but the large elevators and skilled pilots where enough to keep her in the air, rolling the plane with the ailerons could change direction Landing was hard obviously but not undoable However just like the video losing your tail, especially at very low or very high speed usually does result in a death spiral

[@RoyCyle]

Was anyone else surprised that RCE was able to take off on his first try? I sure was. Lol

[@Flexflex744]

Day 3 of asking RCE to make the next music video with those lyrics of "Always" by Bon Jovi: "This Architect is failing And you can't see his skill Doing nothing but fail buildings The Engineer stepped in. I've been failing since my degree I see, only Engineers are good I thought, my skills were always brighter But without Engineers, I give up I can't built a good bridge Like the way it's meant to be Well, I guess I can't create anymore Engineers are better than me And I Will need you Engineer Always He'll be there and build strongest shapes Always This man's trusses are better than mine But to my skills, the Germans say "Nein" And I know I will need a better guide And I'll need you, always." ------------------------------------------------------------------- The original song text: This Romeo is bleeding But you can't see his blood It's nothing but some feelings That this old dog kicked up It's been raining since you left me Now I'm drowning in the flood You see, I've always been a fighter But without you, I give up I can't sing a love song Like the way it's meant to be Well, I guess I'm not that good anymore But baby, that's just me And I will love you, baby, always And I'll be there forever and a day, always I'll be there 'til the stars don't shine 'Til the heavens burst and the words don't rhyme And I know when I die, you'll be on my mind And I'll love you, always

[@nukewurld]

"I don't want fuel tanks, I want cargo! Because they're completely hollow!" He did it. He figured out when everyone else knew all along

[@Syolaar]

To help in landing I add a second set of ailerons to the wings. The outer set act as ailerons, the inner set act as flaps/air brakes. This allows for much slower approaches and less bouncy landings.

[@Episodesgaming]

He literally made a train fly😂| A real engineer!

[@jasonpatterson8091]

Control flaps at the front are called "canards" and they really help when you're having issues like you were (a flexible vessel that struggles to get the nose off the ground).

[@MrMaselko]

Will there be a tall plane? We need more episodes of "Person With a Degree Struggles to Understand How Planes Work"

[@valecasini]

1:25 tip#1: there are fuel tanks that have only the fuel that use aircraft engines and in plus they have more of it so... that way it's more efficient! 4:32 best landing that Matt ever made 👏 5:06 tip#2: there are fuselage parts with 0 fuel and it is lighter than the fuel tank without fuel 10:30 "I didn't have to worry about the plane tails?" *5 seconds later* spiral carnage😂 So yeah you don't need the tail for long flights (so if it broke at low speed and high the pilots can manage to "land" the plane before losing control) 16:39 it looks like the flying fish or one of those things in Avatar that do same things as our flying fishes😂

[@megatractiod3787]

“Don’t push a spaghetti” *proceeds to keep the engines in the center of the noodle, still pushing half of the wet noodle*

[@captredbeard2442]

Got to love the madness. FYI the shuttle is 37m long with the cargo section making up about 60% of its length, so I'd say this plane comes in closer to 580m (1900ft).

[@The_Box_King]

Day 44 of asking Matt to play SpaceFlight Simulator.

[@no1dea261]

He's still going for it

[@shoty_x1693]

2D kerbal space program

[@TheOneGaming0]

Day 1 of asking The Box King to shut up

[@Tall_dark_and_handsome]

@@TheOneGaming0 I second that! They are straight up annoying

[@noneuploader3469]

@@TheOneGaming0 Day 1 of asking you to bloody shut it mate.

[@louieberg2942]

I don't want to tell Schmachael how to their job, but here is a genuine suggestion for whenever Matt does genuine unintentional innuendo: In Scrubs, there's a cut to Christopher Turk doing a Fat Albert reaction to a joke. In one version of this, they start laughing, but stop when they notice the innuendo. They can be used frequently during these vids. I make the suggestion, because I see the occasional "That's what she said" insert, when Michael Scott is being baited by Jim in Todd Packer's presence. Michael makes his innuendo intentionally, whereas the Scrubs bit can be used for unintentional innuendo.

[@Syllaren]

This is honestly really cool. With this kind of size you could put an entire rocket in the cargo bay, and launch it after reaching max altitude.

[@ambsquared]

5:56 it is like the javelin in “Revenge of the Nerds”. Made to accentuate Lamar’s limp wristed throwing style.

[@jsweizston5410]

It's kind of endearing that he hasn't figured out that he can move his camera everywhere but he just eyeballs placement from about 2 football fields away haha.

[@Mobius118]

The first one looks like a hideously enlarged MiG-21 and I’m all for it

[@UserMatt21]

1000 feet? Damn that's what the strongest shapes length dreams to be

[@drewisaudrey]

5:50 This plane can do it for you, when all it does is for you

[@skewrin2837]

I think this immediately begs the question of what the smallest craft you can get into space would be.

[@Trashbag-Sounds]

for stable flight you want your Center of Mass in front of you Center of lift. If its exactly the same it's the most efficient, but also right on the edge to become unstable.

[@TheBeardedAtheist]

UK Space Agency regrets to inform you that the department ram by RCE has been disbanded. Chin up everyone.

[@connornicholas2109]

This man's thought process everywhere.

[@emoryn4530]

I forgot the UK hasn’t done DST yet

[@peacedos1]

Is it Dragon? Is it Rayquaza! No it's a brand new UK space agency plain! God bless the Queen!

[@vinnyvbg]

Very aerodynamic plane, but very Bendy

[@vinnyvbg]

The name of the plane should be called the sky arch

[@ZaximusRex]

Back in the old days one of my hacks to do struts without ruining aesthetics was to clip the VAB camera inside of the segment you want reinforced. Put struts radially between each connection on the inside where you can't see them. Technically that makes them 0 units long but it works, at least in KSP1. 👍

[@The_True_Joseph_Joestar]

Cannot wait for this game to release so I can play it

[@Bombastian1230]

I think it's already out! (In early access)

[@AmbrosiusVanDerCastel]

@@Bombastian1230 Don't bother yet, the performance is atrocious.

[@gameonz3019]

Remember, never purchase early access/beta games.

[@gregregregre9496]

Okay. Planes: pitch works better the further away the control surface is from the center of mass. Both other's arent usually that much of a concern. The further behind the center of lift is behind the center of mass, the more stable the plane becomes, if moving in that direction. More ksp question, I'd love to help (ksp addict and it sometimes hurts a little, but I love your vids!)

[@Vandius24]

You would think an engineer would know it would be smarter to place the wings/jets more towards the front so it's not pushing all that extra mass around and instead pulling it.

[@denizalicesme9797]

Now I understand why I love this channel so much: Because I feel myself sympathetic with you. Even if you don't even know me, I feel like if we were friends and we were playing the games "together". I feel sincere with you.

[@slimpickens7822]

I’m starting to think you’re secretly an architect.

[@_EmptyBox_]

Trust me, I'm an engineer truly has new meaning for me now. I was afraid of planes before... I'm terrified now...

[@notw41k3r]

Did you increase the joint strength from settings, i need to know how i can recreate the bug you accidentally found in the land speed record video

[@Syllaren]

Based on how this video looked I don't think he adjusted the joint strength.

[@RealCivilEngineerGaming]

Nope. I assume you mean the widest plane video too?

[@notw41k3r]

@@RealCivilEngineerGaming The part where the whole plane flipped, slowed down and you were able to activate the parachute and yes the widest plane too

[@RealCivilEngineerGaming]

Oh that wasn't a glitch really, it was just the wing layout making it takeoff at a certain speed

[@notw41k3r]

@@RealCivilEngineerGaming just some quality engineering

[@BerzerkaDurk]

11:01 - I laughed way too hard at "touching tips"

[@doktor0521]

First

[@Potatoincanada201]

“We have a wonky old nose” made me almost spit out my cereal 😂😂😂 I don’t even know why I was eating cereal past dinner

[@Ykp_Mriya]

The plane you've tried to beat has been destroyed by russian soldiers last year in Ukraine, it would've been cool to see you actually acknowledge that, if possible

[@12stepsbeyondtheeventhorizon]

I had zero confidence this was gonna work, and this mad lad proves me wrong again. Legend.

[@xKH3]

You made Rayquaza, nice

[@MrToastyBuns]

Hey RCE! You were struggling with the landing gear when you mirrored the plane.. but you can just click any part with middle mouse to focus your camera on it ;) Makes building long/tall crafts SOOOO much easier

[@arader17]

RCE you can mouse wheel click on parts in the VAB to focus the camera around that part

[@SuperTrb0]

The reason you were still able to fly after loosing your tail is because you had given wings pitch control earlier and still have pitch control after losing your tail. If you hadn’t don’t that then yes, you would have crashed pretty fast as loosing your tail would have also meant you lost your only form of pitch control. Since you didn’t have a vertical stab or rudder it was highly unlikely you would have been able to return to the base. Though a B-52 once lost its vertical stab and rudder but was still able to maintain controlled flight by using asymmetrical thrust via the 8 engines to yaw the aircraft in the direction they needed to go.

[@JetJeb5648]

2:58 nooooooooo matt you architect that CoM was in the perfect spot

[@stephanberg7335]

RCE made the world's longest plane. Time to go for the grand champ of planes, the girthiest plane.

[@Fenrir11119]

Another successful video for the Canadian space agency.

[@dani25215]

Click with middle mouse Button (presss mouse wheel in)on a part to Focus on it it should zoom you over (in VAB)

[@ex-muslimraj8652]

Matt: makes a grown up MiG21 with hood scoops🤣

[@frostyvr9805]

Matt as a pilot who studies aerospace engineering, I look at you like you look at architects

[@rellimnahtan]

The wonky nose cone clearly worked, so making a straight nose cone would really only be an aesthetic choice, and purely aesthetic choices are for architects.

[@ex-muslimraj8652]

🖐Tail less designs are extremely common in modern military jets, you only need the vertical stabilizer

[@100GTAGUY]

So to be fair planes don't necessarily need tail sections seeing things like the b2 spirit exist, they just need a super complicated triple redundant flight computer system to keep it in control.

[@celesinastarshine9658]

one little tip for building in KSP or KSP2. You can move the point of control (the cockpit in this case) around within the zone to increase the amount of build space behind it

[@jeffreymelton2200]

The editor of your videos is a genius

[@Sniper_Fam101]

Idea:try to make the biggest explosion possible in kernel space program 2

[@arbiter11171]

Try engineering a plane like the P-38 Lightning, but with more fuselages, or whatever those tail thingies are called.

[@joshuapatrick682]

4:10 looks like a 3rd gen Mig to me…

[@cerealeggvr6942]

The plane with the longest wingspan was actually the h-4 Hercules (aka the Spruce Goose) with a wingspan of 320 feet

[@sparkieT88]

16:34 never ending story

[@RealCivilEngineerGaming]

FALKOOOOOR!!!

[@lanatsif]

We need a looping attempt with this plane!

[@DabobusDaplane]

4:15 "You can aaaaaalways go arouuund"

[@Soken50]

Honestly the wonky nose brought the whole ridiculous design together, without it it would have been a boring long plane but with a wonky nose it has a personality and we can relate to his struggles as a long plane.

[@mailliwenots]

Suggestion, you could use a tall mid mounted spike or dorsal fin with struts attached to the front and back to provide some rigidity.

[@samuelfynney6638]

I have a challenge Create a working blimp that can take off and land without taking damage

[@kylewright8512]

Amazing. The number of times I laughed out loud while saying “that’s so stupid”… keep it up!

[@jackgonzalez7865]

Very nice landing at 4:33 decently smooth RCE!

[@LKLM138]

Next: Make the Chonkiest plane, with smallest possible wings. Like a fotball

[@jeffreyblack666]

A plane doesn't need a tail to fly, just to maintain control and prevent things like spinning around. Probably a simply way to save your spaghetti is to put some tail fins along it.

[@PedroDias-m1k]

I can't believe I went through the whole video without a single strongest shape reference. And if you paint the final version green and yellow it would make a great Rayquaza.

[@lordgenerias]

RCE: *Plays game with intent to do something silly* KSP2 physics engine: And I took that personally.

[@craigfjay]

Make a long front part and put a docking port at the back Make another 2 craft- a long centre section and a long back of a plane, with docking ports on too. Dock them together, and voila. Human centiplane

[@apisalex]

Play Simple planes and the vr version is really fun

[@carloumbertocucchi1358]

matt's tip of the day: you can increase the pitch effect by making the tail winds bigger

[@Akotski-ys9rr]

They really need to add flaps in this game because without them it’s so hard to take off and land

[@brandonv3051]

I do have a suggestion if you want to use SAS without it violently moving the craft. Set wings to only roll, stabalizers to yaw and control surface to pitch. Then i havent gotten the perfect number yet but you have to also decrease the authority limiter to make it fly stable without over corrections.

[@jonaw.2153]

thank God you finally added those control surfaces on the front, I was shouting at my monitor

[@1b2f4c]

ryanair needs to hire this guy. best lander of ryanair.

[@bismuth4847]

this seemed like the perfect time to make a truss bridge out of struts all along the back to maintain rigidity. you could have had a flying truss bridge and you whiffed it

[@Vindictator1972]

Matt, you're making an architecture, you need some canards on the front of the plane.

[@BatmanShampoo]

RIP An-225. I am hoping they complete the second, partially completed 225 and get one of those incredible machines back in the air

[@adammitchell115]

A B52 landed with most of the tail blown off. All the pilots complained about was the difficulty turning left and right. They didn't realize the tail was missing till they landed.

[@farshnuke]

Not going to lie, this was legitimately impressive

[@IvanIvanov-vb3iz]

bro made the world serpent