How Twinchargers Work: Supercharger + Turbocharger

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What is a twincharger? How does twincharging work? Twincharged engines incorporate both a turbocharger and a supercharger. The supercharger helps create boost at low RPM, while the turbocharger provides boost at high rpm. It's the best of both worlds, the benefit of low RPM boost and high RPM efficiency.
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@JasonLambek
@JasonLambek 5 жыл бұрын
This vid was posted ~5+ years ago and I've been wondering about this very topic for even longer. Thanks for this
@youstolemyhandleyoutwat
@youstolemyhandleyoutwat 3 жыл бұрын
Me too, just tonight I decided to find out what the difference between both is and then wondered "why not just use both?" And TAAADAAAAA!!!
@togiisuperheavytank
@togiisuperheavytank 2 ай бұрын
its been 10 years and people still want to learn about it
@DestDroid
@DestDroid 10 жыл бұрын
I know this one! Supercharger + Turbocharger = Erection!
@randommandoade1465
@randommandoade1465 5 жыл бұрын
Twin Turbo plus a Twin Supercharger=Bigger Erection
@MrChriz333
@MrChriz333 5 жыл бұрын
Captain Ghost twin turbo doesnt mean better. Becouse twin turbos works in differnet RPMs, one huge singel turbo is way better than twin turbos. Atleast more horsepower and tuning potensial.
@MrChriz333
@MrChriz333 5 жыл бұрын
Captain Ghost BMW 335i twin turbo, 305 horsepower, if you switch them with a singel turbo you can get 500-800horsepower becouse it can handle way higher boost of pressure.
@ethanknight8461
@ethanknight8461 5 жыл бұрын
MrChriz333 and this is why they are better especially if you can tune your supercharger to quickly spool that single turbo that you are more realistically going to get more power from
@jonathanschrader7881
@jonathanschrader7881 4 жыл бұрын
= this guy ...
@Salachomp42
@Salachomp42 10 жыл бұрын
After watching all of your videos on turbocharging/supercharging, variable geometry turbos seem like the best method of forced induction to me. And thanks a lot for all the videos! (aspiring automotive engineer here)
@Trades46
@Trades46 9 жыл бұрын
I love the idea of a twincharger system. However, not a lot of OEM makers go this route due to complexity (VW had a 1.4 twincharger engine sold in Europe, but killed it due to high price and complexity). However, Volvo recently created a 2.0 Twincharger engine for their T6 trim...
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 9 жыл бұрын
Trades46 Indeed they did! 2015 Volvo S60 - Twincharged - Review & Test Drive
@willpierson6872
@willpierson6872 9 жыл бұрын
its actually pretty easy.... i mentioned above i did it recently on a porsche 924 2.0 liter. once you wrap your head around the plumbing of it easy to execute though requires programmable aftermarket ecu. the biggest issue with the system is finding the room under the bonnet to pull it of
@rhidiandavies1991
@rhidiandavies1991 9 жыл бұрын
Trades46 I drive said 1.4 twincharged engine, little thing is an absolute peach 😄
@rhidiandavies1991
@rhidiandavies1991 9 жыл бұрын
Trades46 I drive said 1.4 twincharged engine, little thing is an absolute peach 😄
@legoferrari14
@legoferrari14 9 жыл бұрын
+Trades46 Another one of the few cars that used a twincharging system was the Lancia Delta S4 Group B car, in both Stradale (road model) and Evoluzione-II (competition-spec) versions.
@shahrukhmechanical
@shahrukhmechanical 7 жыл бұрын
You make life so easy, thank you. (y)
@bjh15202
@bjh15202 3 жыл бұрын
I just Googled this topic because the T6 engine in my Volvo uses both and includes the Polestar Engineered mode. Thank you for explaining the interaction and benefits so clearly.
@graikas
@graikas 10 жыл бұрын
Seeing this video only one thing comes to mind: the monstrous Lancia Delta S4. A great example where twincharging is working amazing! As another guy asked, we would love to see a video explaining the difference between bov, dump pipe, screamer pipe and all this stuff!!!
@CRVB7
@CRVB7 8 жыл бұрын
Does this setup eliminate tubo lag?? Correct me if I'm wrong. The supercharger will take over in the initial stage of throttling (mid range RPM), therefore the turbo will have enough exhaust to feed from even before fully kicking in.
@tmolne117
@tmolne117 6 жыл бұрын
That's why Lancia did it with the 1986 Delta S4 Group B car. 0-60 in 2.7 seconds.
@thanasikassi3095
@thanasikassi3095 5 жыл бұрын
Hi, love the video. What would happen if you don't run the clutch set up and bypass valve? Also would it cause damage to the supercharger if you didn't run them I was thinking if running a Magnusson 2300 Heartbeat on my already turbocharged LS1 Than you for your help. I
@AlphonseJames-FxWorth
@AlphonseJames-FxWorth 5 жыл бұрын
@@thanasikassi3095 You'd just be loosing power at higher rpm ranges to the Supercharger and technically you would have eliminated the Turbo's work
@vulpix9210
@vulpix9210 5 жыл бұрын
this setup looks very interesting, kinda wanna try it with my CA18
@HoxtonRules
@HoxtonRules 5 жыл бұрын
@@thanasikassi3095 2.5 seconds*
@Andrew260RS
@Andrew260RS 8 жыл бұрын
I was hopping you were going to explain the advantages and disadvantages on a setup like this.
@robmausser
@robmausser 3 жыл бұрын
The only real disadvantage is cost and complexity.
@MJ-up8nw
@MJ-up8nw 5 жыл бұрын
Ok but can we talk about how Hector is going to be running 3 Honda Civics with spoon engines. And on top of that, he just went into Harry's, and he ordered 3 T66 turbos, with NOS. And a Motec exhaust
@rafapereira129
@rafapereira129 5 жыл бұрын
F&F
@romero.4089
@romero.4089 4 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking if that’s a soon as I heard Hector👍🏽
@fukungf74
@fukungf74 3 жыл бұрын
I wish I could laugh react this
@AndyLishious
@AndyLishious 10 жыл бұрын
Twincharged my buick regal gs. Highway missile.
@shadowassasin7312
@shadowassasin7312 5 жыл бұрын
Was it hard to setup?
@jonnnyonion
@jonnnyonion 5 жыл бұрын
That thing the ultimate sleeper
@fukngenius1
@fukngenius1 4 жыл бұрын
Hey I want to twin charge mine what's the best steps to take?
@rebjon24
@rebjon24 10 жыл бұрын
I imagine it must be difficult to tune an engine with both a supercharger and a turbo. Years ago I know it was thought to be impossible, but these days more and more people seem to have perfected it
@vntgmike
@vntgmike 8 жыл бұрын
Hopefully you've been told many times that your channel is helpful and informative. If not, then...your channel is helpful and informative. And, I appreciate the effort you put into these videos.
@CakePC_Jake86
@CakePC_Jake86 6 жыл бұрын
Your videos are very informative, easy to follow and enjoyable to watch. Thank you for the knowledge :)
@11jet1331
@11jet1331 10 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video of Nissan's 400 HP, 3 cylinder 1.5 liter engine?
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 10 жыл бұрын
I hope to!
@conoravila7011
@conoravila7011 10 жыл бұрын
yes! plz do i would like to put that engine in my samurai so it would be nice to see how the eff they do it first
@SuperThejim
@SuperThejim 7 жыл бұрын
I think that engine costs above $30k
@GJB21
@GJB21 6 жыл бұрын
Engineering Explained do it!!!!
@iustinpreda552
@iustinpreda552 5 жыл бұрын
@@EngineeringExplained pls do it
@edwardglen4996
@edwardglen4996 2 ай бұрын
Your videos are well structured and you explain really well. Thank you
@al3zmi
@al3zmi 9 жыл бұрын
I actually seen someone who did it to his Ford GT, but then when be dynoed his car I notice supercharger "Whine" then turbo, so basically from what I understand of this idea is you will never have turbo lag or lose throttle response, to be honest it sounds like a lot of work but it would be sick setup because you will not lose boost because "supercharger belt" might rip at high boost or get damaged, P.S: great job and subbed
@dr.dylansgame5583
@dr.dylansgame5583 4 жыл бұрын
yep you get it sadly the supercharger has to drop off on the high end one to save its lifespan from wear and tear on top of constant usage giving heatwear but also i have heard if its on in the high rpm since superchargers start to bog it actually bogs the turbo somewhat as well
@NUYORK07
@NUYORK07 8 жыл бұрын
Can you do a vid on compound charging where the turbo feeds the supercharger? I don't understand the benefit of this.
@NigelSwan
@NigelSwan 7 жыл бұрын
Benefit is the turbo sees an effectively larger engine due to the already larger airflow created by the supercharger. So the turbo can be much larger. You need to think in pressure ratios though to get your head around it.
@ryanbernard6550
@ryanbernard6550 6 жыл бұрын
Im curious about that too.. I wonder if having a SC feed pressurized air into a turbo will help spool the turbo more on the low end before it gets exhaust gasses.. Its probably negligible but would be interesting to see how each configuration would compare
@tmolne117
@tmolne117 6 жыл бұрын
RaliTek has some videos on one of their projects that use this idea. Over boosting and parasitic loss are the main problems with it.
@dr.dylansgame5583
@dr.dylansgame5583 4 жыл бұрын
@@ryanbernard6550 i wouldnt necessarily say that i mean back in rally they used to use misfire systems that when you would brake would make the car misfire to backfeed exhaust pressure to spool the turbo up even off of throttle the only reason they dont use them anymore is it uses a lot of fuel i think as well as cutting the engines life in half but when its running it defiantly made a huge difference mainly in making cars like lan evo's really good at dog fighting in rally since you could brake and then dive into a corner straight sideways while slamming the throttle to the floor at over 90 miles a hour
@dsrocks6905
@dsrocks6905 3 жыл бұрын
@@dr.dylansgame5583 antilag is bad for trubochargers, especially older, lower tolerance turbos. Itll drastically decrease turbo life
@markjmaxwell9819
@markjmaxwell9819 5 жыл бұрын
From my understanding of forced induction. I used to work for one of the first companies in Australia to cast turbo housings. The twin scroll is hard to beat for simplicity and cost effectiveness. Of course with engines in a V configuration twin turbo installations are hard to beat. I was suprised that belt driven impeller type superchargers never took off in the OEM market.
@roberto555pena3
@roberto555pena3 5 жыл бұрын
Im 17 and got my first truck a 1998 Chevy Silverado with a V8 motor 3 day ago and I've been watching videos like this because I really don't know about cars and trucks. I feel like this video really help I'm making my decision on whether to put a supercharger or turbocharger on my truck thanks
@Indarow
@Indarow 10 жыл бұрын
Lancia Delta S4
@daskurka
@daskurka 11 ай бұрын
Just came here 9 years late to understand my volvo T6 engine. Great video!
@shelbybear8038
@shelbybear8038 9 жыл бұрын
The turbo will re-compress the air coming from the supercharger. You don't need the supercharger on a clutch, and do not require a bypass valve. It's called compound boost. It's a very simple system.
@andrevorster950
@andrevorster950 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks, This explained the combination the best. We are getting the Volvo XC60 T6 which runs off this method.
@chrissmith7276
@chrissmith7276 3 жыл бұрын
I have watched all ur videos nearly on turbo/super chargers nd combustions nd it has been a really help
@chrissmith7276
@chrissmith7276 3 жыл бұрын
So I appreciate the time u spent to help everyone that's watched this
@Armaniche
@Armaniche Жыл бұрын
I have always been fascinated by this but I wonder if the re-engagement or the clutch is going to unsettle the car when you lift off and the car is coasting. Does the clutch engage smoothly or is it more of an on/off switch. If you are decelerating and this things engages mid corner I imagine it would be very unpleasant situation
@DanielRevay
@DanielRevay Жыл бұрын
On off switch. I have a twincharged 1.4 tsi. It engages based on throttle pedal position, so you just learn it with time. You can feel when it kicks in: much more torque, acceleration and of course, noise! And no, there's no issue with it being an on off switch.
@MultiSpoonkiller
@MultiSpoonkiller Жыл бұрын
I suppose you could use a viscous coupling for a smoother take up, I'm thinking of making my own system, I've got a 5 series bmw with engine problems and if that thing has to come out I'm getting frisky with it 😂
@michaelmurray7199
@michaelmurray7199 5 жыл бұрын
A number of piston airplane engines used in the 1940s and 50s have both a blower and a turbo. However the turbo is normally used for cruising at high altitudes, 15,000ft or higher. It’s only used at altitudes below 10,000ft for depressurization of the cabin prior to landing.
@1978garfield
@1978garfield 2 жыл бұрын
Prime Movers (what we would call engines) in diesel locomotives had super and turbochargers for a few years.
@DC-rn1fc
@DC-rn1fc 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my ... I love this stuff! Registercharging, Dual charger, twostage turbo, ... ... and all the nice things we can do when this is further made more complex, miller cycle always comes to my mind (because it is the logic net step after downsizing and optimization of detailery and stuff), hybrid also, and those two, with a halfway-complex, halfway-efficiently used boosting/recovery-system, with an electrically pampered ICE, the improvements in efficiency that are literally lying in front of our feet are only exceeded in their impressivity by no one really going all the way. All the cool things that came into greater series production have been lying in drawers since close to forever. Stratified injection? Old, thirties! Variable valvelift and duration? Twenties! Turbochargers with, say, variable compressors? At least 20 years old. Electrically assisted turbochargers? Were "the next big thing to come!" ever since downsizing became the industrie's standard. Anyway - I love your videos, because, it seems, you are a great narrator and know your stuff. I haven't heard anything that was wrong so far, nothing that was harder to understand than it needed to be. I must admit, I sometimes chose 1.25 speed at youtube, I would actually like you to talk a little bit faster ... but then, again, who am I to demand anything? ... one of my favourite channels - keep doing this, stay true to yourself and ... and ....... uh ....... have a nice day? Yeah. It in fact IS a nice day.
@Frederisx
@Frederisx Жыл бұрын
duddddde i love this dude, just found the cannel 20 min ago looking to understand what a turbo was and now i feel like an axpert on the diffrences of turbo and super charger and cuz of the other vids also know the different types of each lovin it
@RJosephReece
@RJosephReece 9 жыл бұрын
I have a Chrysler 300C with the 5.7 HEMI. Been toying with the idea of either a supercharger or turbocharger. Wondering what would be needed to build a twincharger instead...
@larryjag2717
@larryjag2717 5 жыл бұрын
How would you go about adding a Turbo charger to an already supercharged system
@Mensaje22
@Mensaje22 5 жыл бұрын
You definitely need to tune it if that's the case
@Khorne_of_the_Hill
@Khorne_of_the_Hill 3 жыл бұрын
From what I've read you mostly install the turbo (which can be obnoxiously large) in series, and then have the wastegate measure the boost after the supercharger ( that's pretty important as the boost of the turbo will be compounded with the blower's boost rather than just added to it)
@LordTheodore04
@LordTheodore04 Жыл бұрын
this video helped me a lot with a presentation for school!
@diegodominguez9706
@diegodominguez9706 4 жыл бұрын
What if in high RPM you never disconnect supercharger, 1. Is it possible both working together in high RPM?, 2. If last question is yes, is boost increase dramatically?, 3 what are advantages and disadvantage to use twin-charger at same time in high RPM? Great Video by the way
@michaelbudlong3805
@michaelbudlong3805 9 жыл бұрын
Could you add a twin turbo with a supercharger? If so would it make none, some or a lot of power?
@mikehammond1227
@mikehammond1227 9 жыл бұрын
well that would depend mainly on setup if you had huge 57mm turbos it would make crazy power...all the supercharger is doing is making up for the turbo lag and giving you the low end grunt that turbos just cant do
@Showmetheevidence-
@Showmetheevidence- 7 жыл бұрын
It would make all the power... all of it.
@monjier
@monjier 6 жыл бұрын
Michael Budlong yup, stick with the single turbo because less parts means more reliable. 1 massive turbo can do as much as twin turbos because the supercharger removes the lag.
@12345marooned
@12345marooned 5 жыл бұрын
The Audi SQ7 TDI is a twin turbo with a supercharger
@dimitrovbmw
@dimitrovbmw 5 жыл бұрын
There is no point of using supercharger on twin turbo engine, the reason they make twin turbos is exactly the same as the supercharge a big turbo engine, and it is to eliminate the turbo lag! one turbo kicks in first and helps spin the othe turbo= elimination of big lag and get better throttle response! Hope that makes sense!
@ouberfox5898
@ouberfox5898 8 ай бұрын
The glory i see from this is you have a efficiently mode you can do where you can simply just not activate the super and you can drive somewhat efficiently in low rpm
@dhivahari6568
@dhivahari6568 Жыл бұрын
Bro, I always think which is better but you just teach me that both will be at the best if both are combined. Thanks bro
@WhatIsMyNameDamnIt
@WhatIsMyNameDamnIt 10 жыл бұрын
Very nice vid man. TC must be experienced hardly anyone imagines how much kick it gives from the start. No turbo can give low end like sc.
@charliemason4355
@charliemason4355 6 жыл бұрын
Either I'm missing something or your flow diagram has a problem, specifically the location of the bypass valve. In the diagram boosted charge from the supercharger connects to the atmosphere during mid RPM. Under such conditions some of the boosted charge will flow backward in the intake. In twincharging I thought it was easier to have the intake flow to the turbo first then to the supercharger. Air will flow through the turbo as it does below the boost threshold and compressed by the supercharger. Above the boost threshold boosted air will be delivered to the supercharger. If one wanted to bypass the supercharger at some point the bypass valve would be located between the turbo outlet and the supercharger inlet.
@ghettoflyer
@ghettoflyer 10 жыл бұрын
Everyone explains twinchargers as supercharger 1st than turbo charger 2nd. When actually this is all relevant to the size (and efficiency) of the turbo and super charger (not to forget the pulley size on the supercharger) Theoretically one could have a turbo at low rpms and supercharger at high rpms depending on the size of each. Maybe a video demonstrating how to pick the right size turbo or supercharger (or twincharger) depending on engine displacement would be a good additional video. Don't forget twin turbos and twin superchargers. (pulley sizing probably won't be a bad idea either) Thanks again.
@raforney72
@raforney72 9 жыл бұрын
Also I run atmosphere => Turbo => Supercharger (SC14 roots type) => intercooler => TB => intake manifold, no bypass valve needed with a a/c clutch type s/c (just free spins)
@moanabeach
@moanabeach 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the forums your explanations are brilliant, cheers from Queensland Australia
@bishbosh8494
@bishbosh8494 7 жыл бұрын
Would it be possible to use a variable geometry turbo twin charged with a supercharger?
@franklynpertuz7669
@franklynpertuz7669 Ай бұрын
Thank you for explaining it that was awesome thank you thank you so much man what I learned when you explain I learn a lot once again thank you thank you
@user-wd5mx9ec3p
@user-wd5mx9ec3p 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been doing a project on how this works all yeah I’m very happy I found this video and disappointed that it took this long to find
@projectrandom
@projectrandom Жыл бұрын
Should revisit this topic with a compounding twin charged setup
@DarkMagician6667
@DarkMagician6667 Жыл бұрын
I have a question you could explain, more in depth. About turbo impeller size and spec vs the same in your supercharger and how to spec them per liter of engine.
@Davorm_YT
@Davorm_YT 11 ай бұрын
Why can't the turbo and the supercharger work at the same time at high rpm
@Johnniezplaylist
@Johnniezplaylist 6 жыл бұрын
Few questions. Why not, instead of a clutch to the supercharger, simply have an opening for air above the compressor screws? Turning the supercharger isn't what robs power, the act of compressing air does. By preventing the air from compressing, the only power draw is friction at the bearings and the rotating mass of its internals (which is minimal).
@Scoobydcs
@Scoobydcs 8 жыл бұрын
im looking at vectra vxr for my next car, these come with a twin scroll turbo meaning boost comes in early and a remap will see 400lb ft of torque!, the downside is that the turbo runs out of steam VERY early and the power drops dramatically. my idea was to pair a centrifugal supercharger (more rpm = more boost) with the turbo to give a huge power band. the thurbo gives low/mid rpm power and the supercharger gives great high rpm torque (and hence hp) do you think thats feasable?
@bendeleted9155
@bendeleted9155 6 жыл бұрын
You guys might get a kick out of some of the aircraft engines used in WW2, like the turbo compound Wright 3350, plus most others had either centrifugal superchargers, turbosuperchargers, or both, mostly to "normalize" the thin air at high altitude. But the TC 3350 had three turbos which had shafts that added the power right back to the crank for efficiency. The last dying throes of the large recips.
@loginwithlogan3183
@loginwithlogan3183 7 жыл бұрын
Could you do twin turbos and a supercharger
@joshtheking1772
@joshtheking1772 7 жыл бұрын
Yes you can actually.
@astral8175
@astral8175 7 жыл бұрын
Loginwithlogan 3 i got a idea what about 8 twin turbos in 1 car that car will burn the tracks
@limitlessautomedia9794
@limitlessautomedia9794 7 жыл бұрын
Loginwithlogan 3 look at the ford gt that broke the land speed record. They have a twin turbo supercharged nitrous v8
@codymattingly6107
@codymattingly6107 7 жыл бұрын
Alex Clemente actually that is just TT. They took the stock supercharger off when they started the build. And I'm not too sure about the nitrous either
@Showmetheevidence-
@Showmetheevidence- 7 жыл бұрын
Yes but only with a v13 engine and water methanol in your morning coffee
@jrmyadventr
@jrmyadventr 4 жыл бұрын
I haven't heard of this on a Honda d-series engine, but definitely going to try it if I can get the money going. Expensive, but I'm a die hard d-series guy all day
@dayman888
@dayman888 5 жыл бұрын
I want one of these in my 5.4L Lincoln Navigator
@simonhill6267
@simonhill6267 4 жыл бұрын
There are also twin charging setup where the charged air from the turbocharger goes into the supercharger and is compounded. Opposite of your diagram.
@thecrystalczar5009
@thecrystalczar5009 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! Very informative and the visuals really helped me understand
@prepperjonpnw6482
@prepperjonpnw6482 6 жыл бұрын
I looked through the comments and didn’t see my question so here it is Can you skip the bypass before the supercharger and just run both the super and turbo at the same time 100% of the time? As in put them in line one after the other with no bypass stuff happening
@nezerac
@nezerac 10 жыл бұрын
Lancia has a twin charged rally car with 800hp....Chris Harris from /Drive has a video on it. Not sure if you're a fan but MAN I love that channel. Also good explanation as well. I've been avoiding your videos because I'll spend entirely too much time watching them instead of going outside XD. Good job man!!! Again congrats on the STi!
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks, glad you enjoy the channel. Loving the STi!
@nezerac
@nezerac 10 жыл бұрын
Is it everything they say? Is it like sleeping with that one Movie star that you know you'll never be with? LOL! You know what I mean!
@CloudStrife2468
@CloudStrife2468 6 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video explaining twinchargers in more detail? From what I've read, you've only explained one type of twincharged setup. There are series and parallel configurations. From my research, I've discovered there are 2 routes you can take regarding the series configuration as well. The one you explained here makes use of a bypass value and a clutch to disengage the supercharger which increases the efficiency of the induction system. However you can choose to keep the supercharger running and feeding air into the turbocharger inlet yielding elevated intake pressures. The other series configuration which exists is where no bypass system is used and both compressors are continuously running. Using this configuration results in compounded boost pressure which means the pressure of each compressor is multiplied not added to each other. Here the turbocharger is feeding the inlet of the supercharger. Also I've seen twin turbos feeding a supercharger as well but I'm not sure if you can do that the other way and have a supercharger feed twin turbos. A parallel configuration is when both turbo and supercharger are connected directly to the intake manifold. A bypass or diverted valve is used to prevent the supercharger from blowing backwards through the turbocharger.
@TheBleackone
@TheBleackone 10 жыл бұрын
I wish I could experience this kind of set-up. Looks awesome.
@miguelchaves8518
@miguelchaves8518 3 жыл бұрын
This system is very much applicable into a Weber 40 carburated beetle... As long as the w40 is placed in the middle of the intake pipe, of course...
@goodmorning8172
@goodmorning8172 3 жыл бұрын
Why would the supercharger disengage? From what I hear, twinscrew superchargers provide boost all the way through the rev range. So would it not be better to keep it going throughout? Also, I didn't know clutched superchargers were all that common in the first place.
@MikeHawk88888
@MikeHawk88888 3 жыл бұрын
How does the bypass valve work? Does it open with pressure or is it electronically opened? (like a modern throttlebody).
@harrisnasution1351
@harrisnasution1351 3 жыл бұрын
Could I simply use a reed valve in both the SC intake & turbo intake? They would prioritize opening on which has the higher pressure & the other will close.
@captaindaddy8645
@captaindaddy8645 Жыл бұрын
i like the juice n boost turbo combo. the blower is 24/7. the turbo can be mitigated by normal driving. so...when you feel the need...the need for speed...you can romp the throttle ..enjoy the turbo.if you cant tolerate the turbo lag for whatever reason ( supercar pulls up next to you at the light)... you can engage an electric opener for a nitrous system ( juice)... dial in 25/ 75...100 horsepower...whatever...by jetting...purge and arm all within a few seconds...now you have the off the line nitrous hit...and then the turbo will take over...and after you say a quick prayer...you can laugh at the Lamborghini in the rearview.
@draven4464
@draven4464 4 жыл бұрын
I could be totally wrong but wouldn't a hybrid turbocharger be a better, simpler route? Because then you'd generate boost before the engine even revs up by spinning up the turbo with the electric motor, and also decrease pressure on the exhaust side. I don't know maybe I'm wrong but it would seem to be a good concept
@charliedunn3338
@charliedunn3338 4 жыл бұрын
Could you have a twin turbo and a supercharger ? Would it work the same as a single turbo twin charger setup (as in the boost running thru the supercharger then thru both turbos) just wondering, I dont think it would be very useful but very cool if it's possible
@johandelivera
@johandelivera 5 жыл бұрын
Do you have a video on compound charging (turbo feeding supercharger)?
@KarriKoivusalo
@KarriKoivusalo 10 жыл бұрын
This is the way VW 1.4 TSI was set up. Good for steady boost and inherently fail-safe, as the supercharger will limit the air flow according to engine RPM. Lancia S4 group B rally car did it the other way around. They had the turbo feeding the supercharger. Not as simple for a steady boost or as fail-safe, but allows really fast and high boost as the pressure ratios are multiplied. As for the reduced efficiency during transition, it's true multiplying 70% efficiency of a turbo with 70% efficiency of a supercharger doesn't yield a nice number, BUT either compressor needs to do a lot less work which makes up for a lot in the overall energy consumption.
@akthegamer150na2
@akthegamer150na2 2 жыл бұрын
is it possible to have both the turbocharger and the supercharger running at the same time without loss of power and without disconnecting the supercharger
@manuelandre7052
@manuelandre7052 5 жыл бұрын
So Quick but so intuitive
@BillHimmel
@BillHimmel Жыл бұрын
To me, it is the perfect set-up for any internal combustion engine!
@bossmacnick
@bossmacnick 6 жыл бұрын
great explanation... i understood it perfectly
@JohnL9013
@JohnL9013 10 жыл бұрын
These videos are really well done!!
@Hatthew72
@Hatthew72 10 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video explaining Bypass Valves and how they are different from waste gates and Blow Off Valves?
@K_FI_L_Y_P_S_O
@K_FI_L_Y_P_S_O 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I was hoping you'd make a video with both chargers!
@rraptor656
@rraptor656 10 жыл бұрын
This could work on with a centrifugal supercharger right? And what's the best kind of engine to do this on? I4, I6, v6, v8...
@stefdem1533
@stefdem1533 4 жыл бұрын
Lancia Delta S4 rally car had this in 1986, 0-60 in 2,3/2.4 sec on gravel, up to 1000hp in test mode, between 550-750 hp in race mode (gravel, street)
@cjk32cam
@cjk32cam 3 жыл бұрын
At mid rpm whilst the supercharger is still connected, why doesn’t opening the bypass valve just allow recirculating through the supercharger losing boost?
@aisu8481
@aisu8481 10 жыл бұрын
Engineering Explained Is it possible to have the turbo and supercharger on separate intakes, and then combine them after the compressors to feed the engine? It seems that each would perform to its maximum that way.
@wades623
@wades623 9 жыл бұрын
Chad Barkley you can run the super charger directly through the turbo because the super will not heat the air as greatly as a turbo mostly because the turbo is run off exhaust gas which can be anywhere between 1100 and 2000 degrees so the turbo will be hotter by nature. this explanation is just of a more efficient design
@jonathanschrader7881
@jonathanschrader7881 4 жыл бұрын
Bro a roots blower or a gmc supercharger (this is important) the blower is positive displacement not like a procharger or turbo ... The suoercharger made a 2 stroke diesel work and they had turbos for more power. The blower made the engine function.
@laurieslaathaug4600
@laurieslaathaug4600 4 жыл бұрын
What happens if your supercharger is used to spin the charge air side of the turbo using vacuum? Would your turbo suck the exhaust gases out of the engine while the supercharger pumped charged air into it? Would this increase efficiency? Would it increase hp output? What about a computer controlled electrocharger, would it be more effective as it's performance would be controlled based on emissions, air density and be more precise due to it's continual and immediate compensation for variables?
@brendanstout3997
@brendanstout3997 Жыл бұрын
Now, do you need the bypass valve? And do you need to disconnect the supercharger from the engine?
@tylerwells8640
@tylerwells8640 3 жыл бұрын
could you have them separate both continuously working at once instead of combining them into a twin charger?
@LilleyAdam
@LilleyAdam 10 жыл бұрын
Good video, though the tech is a bit old. Rolls Royce were doing twin charged systems back during WWII. The BRM V16 1.5L also had a two stage supercharged induction system pushing 600+ hp, and the engine was also made by rolls incidentally. Changing one stage from a supercharger to adding a turbine is rather trivial really.
@mveader3
@mveader3 10 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't the supercharger spin faster as the R.P.M.'s increased since it is connected by belt to the crankshaft? And if it did wouldn't it then draw more air in to the cylinder? And if it did that wouldn't it also be good at high R.P.M.'s, which would eliminate the need for a turobocharger?
@WayneMiller1110
@WayneMiller1110 4 жыл бұрын
There is an air Force mustang out there where they put LCD screens in itfor the windows I believe but it has a supercharger on each the valve cover 9r over and the turbo on each side so twin supercharged in twin turbo and they had some kind of hud technology to make it look like a jet the seats at in the center and it was able to be driven gas brake and steering all in a joystick like a fighter jet has it's awesome
@AlexAndreiZAR
@AlexAndreiZAR 6 жыл бұрын
Why not go with a y connector before the intercooler and have the intercooler fed separately from the supercharger and turbo charger. Have separate air filter for the Turbocharger and for the Supercharger. Avoid connecting the Turbocharger and Supercharger in the intake process as it will simplify the piping and also avoid the need of that bypass valve.
@GV-bx8qw
@GV-bx8qw 8 жыл бұрын
the supercharger can not be before the turbo it would restrict boost .. its turbo first then supercharger in a roots set up.. supercharger help spool up turbo at low and by mid supercharger is compressing the turbos boost even further in the intake..
@salvatorecrisanti502
@salvatorecrisanti502 4 жыл бұрын
What if you had 2 separate air intakes. One for the supercharger and one for turbocharger and combine the airflows of each right before the throttle body? I know at high rpm some power would be lost to the supercharger but is it really an issue? I mean you're still making crazy power no?
@landcruiser11rum
@landcruiser11rum 6 жыл бұрын
Great series of vids thanks
@86Junaid.
@86Junaid. 10 жыл бұрын
Could you elaborate on the supercharger clutch please.
@Wulthrin
@Wulthrin 10 жыл бұрын
it's pretty similar to the ac compressor clutch
@zayres29
@zayres29 10 жыл бұрын
How does this compare to an anti lag system... it seems to me that the anti lag would still be more efficient over spinning the supercharger at all
@mathieupivin5204
@mathieupivin5204 6 жыл бұрын
This is amazing thanks for your hard work !
@erty2389
@erty2389 4 жыл бұрын
I dont understand the point of disconnecting the supercharger at mid/ high rpm? Would it not make more power compressing the air through the supercharger, then sending that already compressed air into the turbo to further compress it?
@happytreesllc6369
@happytreesllc6369 2 жыл бұрын
I'd say this is considered as almost a parallel system, unlike in Detroit is in the daisy chain, 2 blowers discharging into the intake of 2 turbos. Ye-ye, it is 2 stroke
@herbrata7376
@herbrata7376 Жыл бұрын
Can this Turbo and Supercharger combine like this? In low RPM up about 3000, engine is moving the compressor wheel (by 1:20) to compress air into storage tank, and spin turbine wheel (1:30), it also acting as vacuum/suction to ease the fluent of exhaust gas. Up above 3000 RPM, the power of exhaust gas kicked in to spin the compressor wheel and lighten the engine load too. Is there any flaw?
@JetSquid
@JetSquid 9 жыл бұрын
If I already have a turbocharged setup with a 72mm turbo, what kind of supercharger would I be wanting to add to the setup and how much would the switch to twincharging cost?
@SalveMonesvol
@SalveMonesvol 9 жыл бұрын
It would be expensive, and you wold want a twin screw.
@5887MXX
@5887MXX 9 жыл бұрын
Looking at the diagram it looks like the air going through supercharger is always going through the turbo compressor and then to the engine. Is that actually the case or does it not go through the turbo?
@BigDirtyBasterd
@BigDirtyBasterd 10 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on the difference between Conical and Root chargers?
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