How Maserati's Brilliant MC20 Engine Works - F1 Tech In A Road Car!

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The Maserati MC20 Nettuno Engine Uses Pre-Chamber Combustion Like Formula 1 Cars!
Every cylinder has dual chambers, dual spark plugs, and dual fuel injectors!
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The Maserati MC20 Nettuno Engine uses dual combustion chambers, dual spark plugs per cylinder, and dual injectors per cylinder. It's packed with innovative tech, sharing commonalities with F1 pre-chamber engine technology. It's a 3.0L, twin-turbo V6 engine making 620 horsepower and 538 lb-ft of torque. The prechamber technology allows for greater power output by reducing engine knock. Watch the video to learn all about it!
Maserati Nettuno Press Release:
"The new power unit has a V90° architecture, with a 3-litre, 6-cylinder twin-turbo, and features a dry sump (a classic solution on super sportscars). It delivers 630CV at 7500rpm and 730 Nm of torque from 3000rpm with a specific power output of 210CV/litre. The compression ratio is 11:1, the stroke is 82 mm and the bore 88 mm.
The soul of the engine is the innovative pre-chamber combustion system featuring twin-spark plugs. This technology is derived from Formula 1 and is now available, for the first time, on an engine destined for the road.
The engine has three main features:
The pre-chamber: a combustion chamber is set between the central electrode and the traditional combustion chamber and connected by a series of specially-designed holes.
Lateral sparkplug: a traditional sparkplug acts as a support to ensure constant combustion when the engine is operating at a level that doesn’t need the pre-chamber to kick in.
Twin injection system - direct and indirect: linked to the fuel supply pressure at 350bar, the system reduces noise low down on the rev range, lowering emissions and improving consumption."
Source: www.maserati.com/internationa...
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Nettuno Shares Ferrari Commonalities - www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...
MC20 Engine Patent - patentscope.wipo.int/search/e...
MC20 Press Release - www.media.maserati.com/en-ww/...
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@U--Bravo
@U--Bravo 3 жыл бұрын
This a beautiful demonstration of the latest advancements in how mankind can control fire lol
@meteormedia7021
@meteormedia7021 3 жыл бұрын
Only took us about 300.000 years to get to this point.
@davidelzinga9757
@davidelzinga9757 3 жыл бұрын
Small fires. Very small, frequent fires. Nothing like California
@jnmason6283
@jnmason6283 3 жыл бұрын
*Insert caveman spongebob*
@GhosthunterP
@GhosthunterP 3 жыл бұрын
Fire-benders and the chambers of secrets
@gabrielalbeldaochoa8234
@gabrielalbeldaochoa8234 3 жыл бұрын
Same with guns haha
@thewhitecarrot
@thewhitecarrot 3 жыл бұрын
Shooting flames into your combustion chamber = efficient Shooting flames out of your tailpipes = not efficient
@WarriorsPhoto
@WarriorsPhoto 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but flames 🔥 out the pipe looks 👀 cool.
@debadityasaha1684
@debadityasaha1684 3 жыл бұрын
@@WarriorsPhoto yes if you have a disorder
@WarriorsPhoto
@WarriorsPhoto 3 жыл бұрын
Debaditya Saha Disorders are good. (:
@Vykk_Draygo
@Vykk_Draygo 3 жыл бұрын
@@debadityasaha1684 No disorder required. It looks cool.
@saccaed
@saccaed 3 жыл бұрын
@@WarriorsPhoto they look cool when done on purpose. When they come out of my 70s car while carb tuning, not so much.
@darchandarchan7036
@darchandarchan7036 3 жыл бұрын
i guess i know what ferrari's engineers were working on instead of sf1000
@yiwanye1221
@yiwanye1221 3 жыл бұрын
Darchan Darchan spark plugs must wear off pretty quick
@Esco4Lifeee
@Esco4Lifeee 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, how can a team drop so far down the grid in a single year without even a major regulation change? It’s baffling to say the least. It’s been tough being a Ferrari fan 🤦‍♂️
@WarriorsPhoto
@WarriorsPhoto 3 жыл бұрын
Makes sense rightfully and I bet they’ll be using this.
@martinhubinette2254
@martinhubinette2254 3 жыл бұрын
@@Esco4Lifeee They where cheating before... Well bending the rules might be more accurate. FIA clarified to Ferrari what the rules where and Ferrari lost 40+hp. They built a high downforce car because they had good power to compensate for the drag, then they lost power and the high downforce setup was not optimized for that. FIA also blocked further large changes due to Covid, stifling any major fixes.
@TK-_-421
@TK-_-421 3 жыл бұрын
I think Jeremy Clarkson once said that when Ferrari are doing good in F1 their road cars suck and when they suck in F1 their road cars are good and they seem to have been busy updating their lineup.
@Patient_Lion_BS
@Patient_Lion_BS 3 жыл бұрын
Intro killed me. Didn't notice the sarcasm til I heard playdough 😂
@DapperHesher
@DapperHesher 3 жыл бұрын
So you believed the heaven's emergency blanket technology?
@kiyoponnn
@kiyoponnn 3 жыл бұрын
Moron.
@vivangreco1710
@vivangreco1710 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you referenced the Honda CVCC technology. My 1978 Civic was so efficient due to the cylinder head design, it could get real world mileage near 40 mpg, and the emissions were so low, the car didn't need a catalytic converter. Literally the last cars sold in the US that still could burn leaded gas. And they achieved that efficient combustion even with an analog carburetor. Kudos to Maserati for pushing the efficiency of internal combustion engine design.
@DarkAttack14
@DarkAttack14 2 ай бұрын
What kinda horsepower? I hit 47-49 mpg in a 2 liter turbo diesel motor in a car that weighs 3400+ pounds lol. I feel like you might have had 40 mpg but not very much power to play with
@billl7551
@billl7551 Ай бұрын
@@DarkAttack14 This is why you have (need) turbocharging. TJI as an NA engine limits BMEP, but it allows much greater BMEP with turbocharging w/o detonation. So - higher Cr +boost = smaller displacement better power/weight and greatly improved efficiency AND power. BUT, this is limited by high oxygen catalysts disfunction for emissions certification.
@DarkAttack14
@DarkAttack14 Ай бұрын
@@billl7551 diesels don't detonate though lmfao. Pretty much impossible unless you were to inject right into the intake or something
@billl7551
@billl7551 Ай бұрын
@@DarkAttack14 Sorry for an unclear post - -but happy it was amusing 🙂 I was referring to limitations of spark ignited engines. Diesels can and actually do detonate, but it is controlled(eliminated) by injection rate limiting so the burn rate is controlled by injection rate. The idle clatter of old was due to rapid injection of all the (idle) fuel and sudden heat release of the entire charge. Now, there is a pre-injection, (called pilot) that becomes the fireball for the main charge. Detonation will produce rapid rate of rise in combustion pressures and eat piston crowns. Not widely know by the public.
@DarkAttack14
@DarkAttack14 Ай бұрын
@@billl7551 diesels do not detonate unless in seriously bad condition. detonation refers to ignition before intended which can't happen in a motor that doesn't inject until intended lol now if you're running an old style Bosch VE pump and your timing is way off yeah you could detonate.. Or in a common rail motor if you have oil introduced to the intake from a blown turbo! Even in an old diesel motor with one single injection event it doesn't qualify as detonation
@jjvega1998
@jjvega1998 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Jason, have you ever thought of doing a series on F1 engine tech? I've always wondered what are the details on what makes F1 engines special. Great video!
@krusher74
@krusher74 3 жыл бұрын
short stroke engines
@Miata822
@Miata822 3 жыл бұрын
Skip that. I want to know about MotoGP motorcycle engines that are getting north of 350hp/liter on normally aspirated light weight engines. Yes, pneumatic valves play a role but that is a crazy power to displacement ratio.
@Outland9000
@Outland9000 3 жыл бұрын
There is a bloke on KZbin who did a tear down of an F1 intercooler he bought. It was really interesting.
@ToomSugi
@ToomSugi 3 жыл бұрын
@@Outland9000 PeterBjorck
@Arnechk
@Arnechk 3 жыл бұрын
@@Miata822 They are a bit smaller, races are shorter, the tolerances can be ridiculously tight and possibly the stroke can be a bit longer compared to an F1 engine. I would imagine its just a factor of reliability vs efficiency. Im sure one or the other can get 500hp/l for about 10 minutes.
@chetankumar1997
@chetankumar1997 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing. I've learnt more from this channel about engines than my graduation in college. It's like doing engineering after becoming engineer.
@johnbenz82
@johnbenz82 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing to learn at graduation other than enjoy the day and receive your diploma, take pics, and maybe lunch
@alenlukoselukose5662
@alenlukoselukose5662 3 жыл бұрын
If an engineer doesn't know what he got engineering in then there is a 99% chance that he graduated from India
@datsuntoyy
@datsuntoyy 3 жыл бұрын
What was your engineering degree in?
@lapamful
@lapamful 3 жыл бұрын
That's always the way with anything you study. When you finish your studies, that's when you learning begins, not ends.
@goblinmonkeyman
@goblinmonkeyman 3 жыл бұрын
"A car that was developed in the heavens, using emergency blanket technology" Hahaha
@robertpsotka3525
@robertpsotka3525 2 жыл бұрын
No need to worry about longevity, most Italian cars get driven about 500 miles a year. Great video once again
@evbrower
@evbrower 3 жыл бұрын
The twin spark plugs and their timing is fascinating. The prechamber with its fixed orifice sizes may have an ideal precombustion pressure differential to the main chamber for best efficiency. Lighting the main chamber plug first would build some preliminary pressure to "stuff" more air and fuel up the prechamber. In theory at least, that could bring the prechamber pressure up around what it would be under higher loads, in essence increasing the precombustion discharge velocity back into the main chamber again. Like a high tech hiccup haha.
@nicholasbriozzo6249
@nicholasbriozzo6249 3 жыл бұрын
Maserati: Yeah we needed two spark plugs Alfa Romeo: Anytime my guy :D
@yiwanye1221
@yiwanye1221 3 жыл бұрын
Nicholas Briozzo someone explains lol
@JakubW
@JakubW 3 жыл бұрын
@@yiwanye1221 I think he refers to Alfa's 'Twinspark' technology. They also used two spark plugs per cylinder, although it wasn't as advanced as this.
@Stasiek_Zabojca
@Stasiek_Zabojca 3 жыл бұрын
@@JakubW Having tow spark plugs and having pre-chamber with additional spark plug are two, different things. And I think there were engine with even more spark plugs.
@JakubW
@JakubW 3 жыл бұрын
@@Stasiek_Zabojca I know that, but I don't think Alfa ever made an engine with prechamber. Or did they?
@pfsantos007
@pfsantos007 3 жыл бұрын
Mercedes: "Oh, that old technology from the 90's"
@juniorballs6025
@juniorballs6025 3 жыл бұрын
You make all of the high-tech engineering so accessible, so easy to understand and your enthusiasm is joyous! Thanks very much from across the pond 👍😎🇬🇧
@IkethRacing
@IkethRacing 3 жыл бұрын
The real reason the main chamber spark plug exists is at low loads, the piston cannot "compress" the mixture into the prechamber. A piston is actually getting sucked upwards at part throttle, and then at TDC the mixture may only reach atmospheric pressures. The engine simply wouldn't run smoothly or at all at part throttle.
@TracyNorrell
@TracyNorrell 3 жыл бұрын
Love your content stuff. Thank you for all the work you put into explaining this to us.
@terencehawkes3933
@terencehawkes3933 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. You answered all my questions about engines using precombustion chambers in one video! Pretty good!
@MrFatum495
@MrFatum495 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, how great this technology would be in NA V12. And oh my, I'd like this combined with Koenigsegg valve system. Btw, great video, thank you!
@WilfredVeltman
@WilfredVeltman 3 жыл бұрын
About a year ago patent drawings of a Ferrari V12 appeared on internet. It also had pre-chamber and an additional conventional spark plug. I guess Maserati were granted the premiere...
@pointbreak24
@pointbreak24 3 жыл бұрын
I agree
@sneaky_krait7271
@sneaky_krait7271 3 жыл бұрын
@@WilfredVeltman Or there will be a Maserati using that engine as well, just like with enzo and mc12
@alfisti93
@alfisti93 3 жыл бұрын
It'll be combined with "MultiAir" - which is Fiats established take on a camless engine. MultiAir is a hydraulic system, while the Freevalve from Koenigsegg is pneumatic, if I recall correctly.
@theo7709
@theo7709 2 жыл бұрын
@@alfisti93 Multiair still needs a camshaft.
@revmedia8108
@revmedia8108 3 жыл бұрын
This guy is so smart that his white board writes the explanations itself out of pure respect. Much love, your friends at Rev Media!!
@edsonreneldacostafilho6009
@edsonreneldacostafilho6009 3 жыл бұрын
And he explains so logically that even non engenireers understands
@ptviwatcher
@ptviwatcher 3 жыл бұрын
Pre-chamber exhaust gas clearing was my first concern when I saw this: there must be some shock wave effect that scoops exhaust gases out before the next cycle, because as the piston goes up that air does not seem to be expelled through the exhaust valves. I suppose dirt accumulation may be solved with a simple cleaning mechanism during periodic maintenance when the spark plugs are replaced - huge advantage of having a small and simple pre-chamber, around the same diameter as the spark plug!
@Shaun.Stephens
@Shaun.Stephens 3 жыл бұрын
Easy to clean during service was my thought. All it would need is pull the plug, a squirt of solvent/fuel and a (maybe brass) wire brush shaped to suit the chamber in a power drill (or similar). Owners of these sorts of cars are going to get them serviced regularly and are unlikely to do huge distances so it's no big deal.
@dr_jaymz
@dr_jaymz 3 жыл бұрын
@@Shaun.Stephens they will also rev the arse off the engine which will help. If you were just town driving I think it'd have a problem, although it still has the second plug so it should still run until you can open up the taps.
@anthonycanalese2142
@anthonycanalese2142 3 жыл бұрын
Putting on my Engineers hat, I would say that some detailed Computational Fluid Dynamics (CFD) would have been carried out to analyse this very issue. Also, remember that the fluid being forced into the pre-chamber is an air/gasoline mixture. All gasoline fuels contain some detergent additives/effectiveness in order to clean soot. Combined with the fact that the velocity of the expanding gas jet from the pre-chamber will be relativity high, thereby aiding in the cleaning of any soot. However, as the pre-chamber is so small 10-> 15ml and the jet paths are quite narrow, I would hazard a guess that there may be some long term issues.
@robertolucignano3495
@robertolucignano3495 3 жыл бұрын
@@anthonycanalese2142 , that Is exactly what happens, but if you think about It , wall wetting Is what produces soot. So there should be the problem of soot depositing on the prechamber nozzles. But since you are burning everything with the flames you dont suffer of soot nucleation around the prechamber. The main problem here Is temperature an pressure at Turing. so probably in future we Will see diesel like pistons(stainless steel).
@agt155
@agt155 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertolucignano3495 With a super lean burn will there be much/any soot?
@jamesengland7461
@jamesengland7461 3 жыл бұрын
I loved the sarcastic intro! I also learned something, so there's that. Keep up the excellent work, Jason!
@willieallen7166
@willieallen7166 3 жыл бұрын
F*** that s*** home well you need to be president.
@tensebeastgaming8527
@tensebeastgaming8527 3 жыл бұрын
Yamaha also had a couple forms of pre-chamber tech in the 80's with 'YICS' and 'YEIS'
@WarriorsPhoto
@WarriorsPhoto 3 жыл бұрын
Good to read and was it reliable?
@dakotavaughan6488
@dakotavaughan6488 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 86 maxima 500 engine Im trying to get started. How much do you know bout them?
@dakotavaughan6488
@dakotavaughan6488 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry I have a mind of my own.
@tensebeastgaming8527
@tensebeastgaming8527 3 жыл бұрын
@@dakotavaughan6488 For a DIYer im fairly proficient with old carbed bikes. Most of these old bikes just have carb issues, once you rectify those issues they run pretty well. Check easy stuff first like spark to all cylinders, make sure fuel is getting to carbs, and every possible carb setting is set to factory default (with the hope that the bike jetting and airbox is stock) etc before you tear the carbs apart via a YT vid or shop manual
@md4luckycharms
@md4luckycharms 3 жыл бұрын
@@dakotavaughan6488 keep that stock airbox if you wanna ride it
@TerrellMethvin
@TerrellMethvin 3 жыл бұрын
It's already happening, The ICEngines have become nostalgic so now as one would appreciate a fine watch we now appreciate the complexity and beauty of the Internal Combustion Engine with different eyes. I hope we keep innovating ICE.
@bonkka87
@bonkka87 3 жыл бұрын
My biggest concern is also cleanliness of the pre-chamber. It will be interesting to see if the difference in pressure, especially given the volumetric difference, will be enough to keep those tiny little ports clean.
@Leo_S94
@Leo_S94 3 жыл бұрын
Always look forward to learning from your videos ! Would love to see you do more F1 videos on their engineering and overall tech.
@subliminalvibes
@subliminalvibes 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh, Bro... I just watched your "why cars backfire" video. You had such a baby face! 👍😎 Thanks for all your engineering explained content. You'll never run out of amazing tech to explain to us. Cheers!
@thereissomecoolstuff
@thereissomecoolstuff 3 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how much power we are getting from smaller and smaller displacement.
@thomasmullins1783
@thomasmullins1783 3 жыл бұрын
Its also amazing how expensive these vehicles are getting every year
@thereissomecoolstuff
@thereissomecoolstuff 3 жыл бұрын
@ufster81 actually it does have to do with displacement and transmissions. Torque needs moving parts. Big moving parts.
@fatbroadshorsefacedlesbian8619
@fatbroadshorsefacedlesbian8619 3 жыл бұрын
thereissomecoolstuff gives new meaning to term " there's no replacement for displacement."
@zaidm4590
@zaidm4590 3 жыл бұрын
I believe this MC20 has the highest HP/L out of any non-hybrid production car ever!
@brois841
@brois841 3 жыл бұрын
@@thomasmullins1783 and ironically, this car starting at $200k is actually considered a relative bargain among the European exotics. I'd love to buy something nice, but the prices have ballooned. Grr!! The logical choice is the C8 Corvette, but dammit... I want that je ne sais quoi. I've yet to find a car at any price which brings back the passion I used to have when I was younger... the irony.... when I had no money I had a million wants and desires... now I have money but no desires. First world problems, I know, but curious if anyone else is in the same boat.
@jonathankeith524
@jonathankeith524 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like we haven't even scratched the surface of how efficient gas engines can be. Just think of all of the engineering advances we've witnessed in the past three years with engine technology.
@dimesonhiseyes9134
@dimesonhiseyes9134 3 жыл бұрын
Cars have advanced more since 1990 than they did in the 100 or so years prior.
@soraaoixxthebluesky
@soraaoixxthebluesky 3 жыл бұрын
With F1, they had achieved well over 50% with hybrid configuration. They scrape every single waste kinetic and heat energy as much as possible.
@juiceboxtv1158
@juiceboxtv1158 3 жыл бұрын
I love your viedos so much! The first thought after the explanation of the principle, was how the pre-chamber will be cleared. Thanks for the last point on the board.
@tomharrison6762
@tomharrison6762 3 жыл бұрын
You are one very smart engineer that is still so very gifted in breaking it down in easily understood terms.Thank you.
@lordflufffluff
@lordflufffluff 3 жыл бұрын
I got caught up with my college work, so I get to watch this video. I was saving it as a reward.
@UltimatePwnageNL
@UltimatePwnageNL 3 жыл бұрын
plot twist: you learned more from this video than your college work
@lordflufffluff
@lordflufffluff 3 жыл бұрын
@@UltimatePwnageNL Lol
@SidneyCritic
@SidneyCritic 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating technology, straight out of the diesel handbook - lol -.
@rsgabrys3080
@rsgabrys3080 3 жыл бұрын
------ ___ diesel's can be ac/dc ....both 2 stroke or conventional w/same fuel
@whodahellru8124
@whodahellru8124 3 жыл бұрын
Yea this made me think of IDI diesels
@octane613
@octane613 3 жыл бұрын
@Altair IV 60's? Try 30's. Caterpillar was using this tech before ww2.
@Eduardo_Espinoza
@Eduardo_Espinoza 3 жыл бұрын
that is what i was thinking too they have a pre-chamber too
@agt155
@agt155 3 жыл бұрын
@@octane613 The worlds first diesel engine, built by Akroyd-Stuart in the 1890's, used similar.
@grahamsteen7984
@grahamsteen7984 3 жыл бұрын
I've been meaning to thank you for sometime. So, Thank You for your terrific videos! For those of us who admire [but don't fully understand] engineering, your presentations are easy to understand, and very entertaining! And by the way, I just bought one of your tee-shirts! Wishing you continued success as you carry on with this endeavour. Kindly, Graham Steen.
@M.A.S.-SuperiorService-
@M.A.S.-SuperiorService- 3 жыл бұрын
My boy Jason keeping me on my toes with the new technologies. I appreciate your videos bro.
@SvdSinner
@SvdSinner 3 жыл бұрын
As to your curiosity of how much leftover gas gets re-compressed in the prechamber on thw next cycle: The % of re-compressed gas will be (volume of prechamber) / (Total Cylinder volume) + (some inefficiencies from the gases not being perfectly mixed at all times) which I assume would be pretty small.
@bwxmoto
@bwxmoto 3 жыл бұрын
Port injection also cleans the backside of intake valves which DI alone can leave them caked with giant gobs of carbon requiring regular cleanings. - edit - The reason I commented this is because I was waiting for EE to list this as one of the benefits of port injection, but he never said anything about it which I thought strange given his usually thorough explanations.
@lucasvanhamburg4937
@lucasvanhamburg4937 3 жыл бұрын
cleaning is only needed every 100k or so, but an oil catch can can solve that
@bwxmoto
@bwxmoto 3 жыл бұрын
They can get caked with gunk long before 100k on many DI cars.
@ejv0wjc08gtsnoj0
@ejv0wjc08gtsnoj0 3 жыл бұрын
lol anyone who judges maintenance interval by distance driven doesn't know much about cars.
@firestarter4247
@firestarter4247 3 жыл бұрын
@@ejv0wjc08gtsnoj0 Agreed, how do you judge maintenance interval? I have an OBD2 reader which measures the amount of time the car has been driven at each engine RPM. Every time the car is turned off, I enter those as inputs into a function I've derived, and once the output of that function hits a number that I've pre-specified (which is based on the minimum time the relevant components would be expected to fail if constantly driving at 80% engine load (which in turn is based on a variety of materials and structural analyses, among other things)), I perform the maintenance. It's so much more intuitive lol I don't know why more people don't do it.
@pistonwristpin1
@pistonwristpin1 3 жыл бұрын
cb350f actually with Maseratis, its a once a year oil service interval. Don’t know what the Netuno uses but the V6 in the Ghibli uses a 7-9gt oil pan, and they use 5w-40 synthetic oil (less coking that way especially in turbo’ed engines.) If you figure the average use of any car is about 12-15k per year, is one of the longest service intervals I’ve heard of, next to the Chevy Volt which has to tell you when to change the oil by remaining service life. After 6 years of ownership, still haven’t replaced the spark plugs (mainly cuz the engine is hardly ever used), no 30,000 mi plug change. As far as time change automotive items goes seems is a better interval, plus Maserati has GT and Indy car test results. Average drivers are easier on Indy cars. And would rather service my car before it breaks, than trying to find a ride home.
@papajimg9238
@papajimg9238 3 жыл бұрын
respect for the video, the details and the way you explain all!!
@lh5943
@lh5943 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for providing us with this information !
@WarriorsPhoto
@WarriorsPhoto 3 жыл бұрын
Jason, I am glad someone else understands these facts and presents them in simple terms. This makes sense and I felt empowered listening to you.
@hallofmeowingcats
@hallofmeowingcats 3 жыл бұрын
Remember when cars had more than 6 cylinders? *This message was approved by naturally aspirated gang*
@elliottb7009
@elliottb7009 3 жыл бұрын
turns out there is a replacement for displacement. forced induction gang. ;)
@lucys8287
@lucys8287 3 жыл бұрын
remember when cars had a rotary engine?
@allenlin6169
@allenlin6169 3 жыл бұрын
@@lucys8287 remember when cars had 2 stroke engines? 2 strokes are actually incredibly efficient but the emissions are terrible
@SolaricAngel116
@SolaricAngel116 3 жыл бұрын
@@allenlin6169 I Wonder What Could Humanity Actually Achieve With Today's Technology.
@SolaricAngel116
@SolaricAngel116 3 жыл бұрын
@@allenlin6169 For All Of Those Comments Said.
@calvinthurston1441
@calvinthurston1441 3 жыл бұрын
Super cool dude! I'm just a simple mercedes certified hybrid mechanic but these top end tech road car videos always impress! Thanks for the insight into other brands emissions tech...lol cause thats all it is at this point! Even as a potential higher end "shade tree" with no shade mechanic its good to know how little I can really do... ask HumbleM! Can't wait to start my own lowryder shop!
@TheWinston86
@TheWinston86 9 күн бұрын
Thank you for teaching me something new. I appreciate the effort you’ve taken to outline this.👍🏼
@aidaneloff5357
@aidaneloff5357 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Jason Don’t know if you have seen two stroke stuffing’s videos on his two stroke engines. Would be great if you explained what gives his engines so much potential. Cheers
@ketillundsrensen6167
@ketillundsrensen6167 3 жыл бұрын
Can you give a link? Would love to see it😊
@craigsmallegan5993
@craigsmallegan5993 3 жыл бұрын
"I guess I ran out of facts..." on the white board! LMAO.
@soaringvulture
@soaringvulture 3 жыл бұрын
I saw that too. I don't believe it.
@aircates
@aircates 3 жыл бұрын
I think he ran out of white board.....
@Pete856
@Pete856 3 жыл бұрын
@@aircates Nah, he wrote his facts too small and then had an empty space he needed to fill.
@paulovidi5761
@paulovidi5761 3 жыл бұрын
Great presentation! Congrats, Mate!
@mikechiodetti4482
@mikechiodetti4482 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for explaining all this. Power, efficiency and low emissions. Looks and sounds great!
@tonyhitch5799
@tonyhitch5799 3 жыл бұрын
I'm no brilliant chemist, but the spray pattern of direct injector is throwing fresh fuel directly at pre chamber (I imagine you could work this out with flow bench to some degree and then multiply piston compression subtract polar bear faeces / mince pies)
@leslienordman8718
@leslienordman8718 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent episode, explaining a fascinating technology! Well done. :-)
@tobywonkinoby8916
@tobywonkinoby8916 3 жыл бұрын
I love these videos. Thanks for making them! 👍
@ChurchAutoTest
@ChurchAutoTest 3 жыл бұрын
3-way catalysts as found in road cars actually need a mixture that oscillates on either side of the stoich ratio to work properly. Current engine control systems are capable of maintaining a near perfect stoich mixture most of the time, but that would reduce catalyst effectiveness.
@andredc161
@andredc161 3 жыл бұрын
A Honda CVCC for the new century
@ivangamer8022
@ivangamer8022 3 жыл бұрын
Maserati 3.0L = 630 hp Nissan 3.7L = 320 hp lmao at asian engineering
@andredc161
@andredc161 3 жыл бұрын
@@ivangamer8022 you know what is a turbo engine and what is a natural aspirated engine... Well I guess not...
@sparrow1931
@sparrow1931 3 жыл бұрын
A fitting profile picture for a guy that can't use google.
@tomkato6400
@tomkato6400 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking Honda CVCC+Nissan NAPS-Z (dual spark plugs per cylinder).
@RyanInSD
@RyanInSD 3 жыл бұрын
Dude, please keep going with the comedic rants, love it. (the intro)
@user-os1rk9qi5s
@user-os1rk9qi5s 3 жыл бұрын
Great video!Great lesson! Great work!
@stevebryson3702
@stevebryson3702 3 жыл бұрын
How do they avoid knock with two combustion points?
@joshlewis5065
@joshlewis5065 3 жыл бұрын
I bet the spark timing on those things are wayyy advanced relative to TDC
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 3 жыл бұрын
The lil graph at the bottom is pulled from the patent (and the torque curve actually lines up perfectly with Maserati's stated torque curve). On the patent, they show timing around -30 to -15 degrees (bTDC).
@detaart
@detaart 3 жыл бұрын
@@EngineeringExplained Seems actually relatively mild. -30 for cruising and -15 for full load i assume. The -15 on full load is relatively spicy, but hey new efficient engines and all that.
@MitchRichard65
@MitchRichard65 3 жыл бұрын
@@detaart -15 on a 11:1 turbo with street gas... thats amazing
@detaart
@detaart 3 жыл бұрын
@@MitchRichard65 It's not super crazy, but it is quite good. Until we see this engine in the wild, we can't make assumptions. We don't know the boost, expected charge temps, etc. And also ... modern engine management always targets spicy timing, but most of the time, in the real world, also pulls a lot of timing all the time, so ...
@DivaniKingston
@DivaniKingston 3 жыл бұрын
Are you saying -30 as in 30 degrees ATDC? 😲
@jsirius3783
@jsirius3783 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting design. Keep up the great videos.
@ChuckJ1944
@ChuckJ1944 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice video. I share your concern about not only the complexity, but the durability over time WRT the combustion chamber.
@oldleatherhandsfriends4053
@oldleatherhandsfriends4053 3 жыл бұрын
This sounds like another brilliant Idea to reduce the reliability of a Maserati further.
@MKMT3481
@MKMT3481 5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@pinnkang
@pinnkang Ай бұрын
I agree. After 5000 miles the engine will need a service costing a ridiculous amount of money.
@hugomorala7751
@hugomorala7751 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder how the carbon deposits buildup will affect this new system 🤔
@dieselgeezer18
@dieselgeezer18 3 жыл бұрын
yeah. It also sounds wayy too complicated and easy to fail
@blahorgaslisk7763
@blahorgaslisk7763 3 жыл бұрын
If history is anything to go by then they will be maintenance intensive and expensive to keep in trim. But hey, it's a Maserati! Anyone buying one of these already know they have to keep a good mechanic on speed dial. It's much the same with any of the classic high end European super car manufacturers. Their engines are often technical marvels of precision and aesthetically pleasing design, but also need to be serviced regularly to run as they are supposed to.
@ghoulbuster1
@ghoulbuster1 3 жыл бұрын
Just take the plug out and clean it.
@whodahellru8124
@whodahellru8124 3 жыл бұрын
Scientist Walter I was thinking the same thing, but with an orifice size of 1.8mm ... how effective are you gonna be at clearing out the carbon deposits?
@mitchreviews5291
@mitchreviews5291 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like this is the weather man who chose the right career. I love this channel
@janskitech9966
@janskitech9966 8 ай бұрын
Well done for the very well explained lecture😊😊 keep it up and going.
@Yoshi-sc2ln
@Yoshi-sc2ln 3 жыл бұрын
now these days litreally so many small engines are being used in very fast f1 cars with awesome tech
@ivangamer8022
@ivangamer8022 3 жыл бұрын
Maserati 3.0L = 630 hp Nissan 3.7L = 320 hp lmao at asian engineering
@Jupiter__001_
@Jupiter__001_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@ivangamer8022 Stop spamming this.
@27dcx
@27dcx 3 жыл бұрын
Having the combustion travel through approx 1mm holes seems like it would foul up without regular cleaning of the orifices during maintenance.
@dimesonhiseyes9134
@dimesonhiseyes9134 3 жыл бұрын
There is probably enough compression and then enough force with combustion to keep the prechamber clean.
@andoletube
@andoletube 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, unless they include some sort of blow-through venting/valving, this is going to foul up for sure. You really can't force fuel/air into a closed-end tube, and you also can't properly evacuate a closed-end tube. This concept is missing some technology to make it work as conceived.
@tips4truckers252
@tips4truckers252 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video jason
@christopherjones512
@christopherjones512 3 жыл бұрын
GREAT INFORMATION
@Phos9
@Phos9 3 жыл бұрын
Regarding carbon in the pre chamber, they might be getting hot enough to burn off carbon deposits.
@dragonballgow284
@dragonballgow284 3 жыл бұрын
That intro lol I upload similar content just like this one
@mguarna16
@mguarna16 3 жыл бұрын
As usual, you are the only one who is able to explain the things correctly! Too much confusion and wrong explanations about pre-chamber from car magazines, youtube and so on. Great video for a great engine!
@zilogfan
@zilogfan 3 жыл бұрын
EV guy here, thanks for the shout out. Great engineering video!!
@CaseAgainstFaith1
@CaseAgainstFaith1 3 жыл бұрын
Seems like active is overall better and just needs a re-designed cat.
@Eduardo_Espinoza
@Eduardo_Espinoza 3 жыл бұрын
why was it bad for cat again? i just heard it was bad nvm i just googled why lean is bad
@brunocorrea6010
@brunocorrea6010 3 жыл бұрын
@@Eduardo_Espinoza For what I understand, it causes the exhaust temperature to not get high enough. The cat need an especific temp to work properly, too low it clogs up, too hot it brittles.
@Eduardo_Espinoza
@Eduardo_Espinoza 3 жыл бұрын
@@brunocorrea6010 i guess my comment got shadow banned
@Eduardo_Espinoza
@Eduardo_Espinoza 3 жыл бұрын
@@brunocorrea6010 this, is my 4th comment
@Baigle1
@Baigle1 3 жыл бұрын
Using the right materials with a passive design is better than active combustion, in general. Reliable, robust, outweigh upfront cost (which is way overblown so they don't have to do the work). Commercial turbine engines don't need a catalytic converter and end up beating ground vehicle emissions because they use lean mixtures with small droplet sizes, which means high droplet boundary temperatures (where the ratio is near stoichiometric) are less common and produce less NOx, which is an endothermic reaction.
@markchip1
@markchip1 3 жыл бұрын
One thing I couldn't understand was how the pre-chamber ever gets its fresh fuel/air mix in, as all I can see is the persistence of spent fuel/air/CO2 inside the chamber once the spark has occured!.... Then you finish by saying exactly the same thing!!!
@ImaadAnsari
@ImaadAnsari 3 жыл бұрын
Hmm so maybe that's intentional? I agree that in the exhaust stroke there will be burnt air/fuel mix inside the pre chamber. However, during the intake phase, these should all be sucked out into the main chamber and get mixed with the fresh air/fuel mixture. And because the relative volume of the pre chamber is so small, the amount of burnt air/fuel mixture should not be too much to cause a problem.
@SvdSinner
@SvdSinner 3 жыл бұрын
@@ImaadAnsari Absolutely. I can't imagine the ratio of the precombustion chamber to total cyclinder volume being high enough to have to worry about refreshing the gases beyond what expansion and compression already do.
@parikshitsangwan1456
@parikshitsangwan1456 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah i too have same questions.
@fabioferlicca9295
@fabioferlicca9295 3 жыл бұрын
@@SvdSinner he says it's 0.3%
@AudioThings
@AudioThings 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's Maserati's secret. Of how, when and how much by doing whatever. So that the germans don't copy Italian tech... again, and again and again etc. At least not so easily.
@egeayvala1799
@egeayvala1799 3 жыл бұрын
i like his videos they bring me back to the shcool days i feel like a kid sometimes haha
@TheEZGZ
@TheEZGZ 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for being you! Knowledge is power.....
@TheDCadventures
@TheDCadventures 3 жыл бұрын
A Maserati with twice as much going on? I don’t see anything that could go wrong with this (sarcasm)
@flyingvengeance
@flyingvengeance 3 жыл бұрын
Seriously. ANYONE who has been around and seen what a normal Maserati looks and runs like after a couple years would know better than buy this. The engineering might be great but the electronics and transmission and quality of construction are going to kill any good engineering. Back in the 70's they were considered poorly built wrecks but still cool. What does the name "Maserati" really bring to the mind of a new buyer who is below the age of say 40?
@brois841
@brois841 3 жыл бұрын
@@flyingvengeance when I lived up north, I barely saw them and thought they were... meh. One of my co-workers had a Quttroporte(?) which he loved but didn't do much for me. Now that I'm in the sunny South, I see them everywhere... like tons of them. To me they represent a level of exclusivity a bit beyond BMW/Mercedes/Audi. Their styling is very sports-influenced, which is nice. From a reliability perspective I have no idea, but reliability has gotten so great lately it really doesn't matter that much unless it's something major. But what do I know... I have an MC20 on my mind while I'm solidly a Tesla guy now and will probably (realistically) getting another Tesla. The way they drive on the street is just perfect, but on the track I obviously prefer ICE ;)
@cam3002
@cam3002 3 жыл бұрын
Hope Mazda sees this for the Rotary.
@CaseAgainstFaith1
@CaseAgainstFaith1 3 жыл бұрын
Give it up, rotary is dead.
@enso3140
@enso3140 3 жыл бұрын
@@CaseAgainstFaith1 never
@ofwgthaidgaf
@ofwgthaidgaf 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao dream on kiddo
@tony_5156
@tony_5156 3 жыл бұрын
CaseAgainstFaith1 maybe but we’ll never give uo
@bcredeur97
@bcredeur97 3 жыл бұрын
Mazdarati
@lowlenti5078
@lowlenti5078 3 жыл бұрын
Great content 👌
@dustinbennett3297
@dustinbennett3297 2 жыл бұрын
It almost looks like a little piston switch. I'm halfway thru the video but that's a cool setup they got! I'm in love with the Maserati mc20 already anyway!
@TroyRubert
@TroyRubert 3 жыл бұрын
So glad they care about the environment 😉
@NoobaLV
@NoobaLV 3 жыл бұрын
They are forced to care.
@sim6699
@sim6699 3 жыл бұрын
Man made climate change is a scam, go look at co2 released from plankton
@RS-nq8xk
@RS-nq8xk 3 жыл бұрын
I just want my 8000+rpm 4 cylinder Hondas back
@astonmartin258
@astonmartin258 3 жыл бұрын
1 question: after a while, carbon builds up in pre-ignitiom chamber. How to clean the chamber?
@redline589
@redline589 3 жыл бұрын
Buy a new car
@ketillundsrensen6167
@ketillundsrensen6167 3 жыл бұрын
Always nice to see you videos. I learn so much weird and smart things. What about Wasted spark? What are the benefits and how?
@MrBurgerphone1014
@MrBurgerphone1014 3 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for this one.
@Matticus289
@Matticus289 3 жыл бұрын
Begs the question: How much more efficient could our cars be if emission compliance was not in the equation?
@hola155555552
@hola155555552 3 жыл бұрын
Probably they will be less efficient, because there is no need for making an engine efficient if they dont have to comply with emissions, just throw a bigger engine or put a turbo instead of making it more efficient. Any way, the efficiency will be arround 50 % look at the Mercedes F1 engine, is the most efficient car engine and formula 1 cars don’t have to comply with emission. The incentive for making an engine more efficient is better use of se gasoline more than just making pure power.
@Rickcrazy100
@Rickcrazy100 3 жыл бұрын
Matias B he was talking about FUEL efficiency...the mercedes engine you mentioned has 50% THERMAL efficiency...in order to create more power, but still comply with the rules that F1 proposes...two different things my friend
@hola155555552
@hola155555552 3 жыл бұрын
Rick well my friend, in that manner you right. But in order to make a car more fuel efficient it has to improve its thermal efficiency, so it can extract more power/energy out of the gasoline. The emissions sistems makes a car less efficient because they produce loses in the combustion cycle, so the engine extract Less energy from the same amount of fuel, for example rich mixtures for reducing temps lean mixes for reducing CO2 or dumping crude fuel in particulate filters. Any way, I was think in an other thing when I read Loomies question, but referring at what he really asked, the answer is 10 to 20% I have friends that ripped out the emission systems and thats what they gained.
@automech4315
@automech4315 3 жыл бұрын
And how long you can live without the ozone layer
@claudesmoot1880
@claudesmoot1880 3 жыл бұрын
Don't think for a second that the government does any long term research the don't care.
@philip600rr
@philip600rr 3 жыл бұрын
1970's Mercedes Benz diesel tech coming to gas engines.
@jarrusjenkins
@jarrusjenkins 3 жыл бұрын
Many more manufactures were doing a prechamber/swirl chamber as well. Peugeot for example and even VW for a time.
@PrzemyslawSliwinski
@PrzemyslawSliwinski 3 жыл бұрын
I believe the OM621 engines were even older...
@SvdSinner
@SvdSinner 3 жыл бұрын
Preach it brothers! (Owner of an '83 MB 300D with an OM617 here)
@WarriorsPhoto
@WarriorsPhoto 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking this and Benz used it well. Hope it works well in a gas powered engine.
@Runmeerkat
@Runmeerkat 3 жыл бұрын
every single manufacurer of diesel engines were using this before the common rail becoming the norm.
@twots22
@twots22 3 жыл бұрын
I'll take one of each!!! Nice engineering!
@chobitrial
@chobitrial 3 жыл бұрын
Excelent video
@steegzor5161
@steegzor5161 3 жыл бұрын
Combine that with atkinson cycle and bam you've got the most efficient car in the world
@Duskconqueror
@Duskconqueror 3 жыл бұрын
You forgot Freevalve 😉
@steegzor5161
@steegzor5161 3 жыл бұрын
@@Duskconqueror ouh damn you're right. And opposed pistons😱
@pdempsey
@pdempsey 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone else just going back and looping 0:15 to 0:35? No? Just me. Mmmm-kay.
@phillyphil1513
@phillyphil1513 3 жыл бұрын
yes...!!! I was hoping he'd do something about this engine. 👍
@willjones7132
@willjones7132 3 жыл бұрын
Great video and info, many of the comments on the other hand...
@John-md3ld
@John-md3ld 3 жыл бұрын
"I guess I ran out of facts" Me: Wait, that's illegal
@dragonballhomie4353
@dragonballhomie4353 3 жыл бұрын
*Nah, it's gonna be slow If they are using Scuderia Ferrari F1 tech in engine.*
@RenanBorges96
@RenanBorges96 3 жыл бұрын
Always s🅱️inning on the Italian roads
@Jupiter__001_
@Jupiter__001_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@RenanBorges96 s🅱️innala
@RenanBorges96
@RenanBorges96 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jupiter__001_ S🅱️innastian Vettel
@DanyCesc83
@DanyCesc83 3 жыл бұрын
it is slow lol compared to other cars in the same price and performance range. The only cool thing is the use of so much cf
@TheRomichou
@TheRomichou 3 жыл бұрын
James May just shared your video on FB!
@TeamXternaL
@TeamXternaL 3 жыл бұрын
nice video jason
@bimmere36classic94
@bimmere36classic94 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing Another engine with 60k miles lifespan :)))
@OffTheBeatenPath_
@OffTheBeatenPath_ 3 жыл бұрын
truth..what could possibly go wrong
@deveusdude
@deveusdude 3 жыл бұрын
It's a supercar, most will never be driven that much
@ariyankhan4337
@ariyankhan4337 3 жыл бұрын
I bet 2 months after purchasing a car with this engine it will have breakdown like a epileptic kid in nightclub
@eirobotix3881
@eirobotix3881 3 жыл бұрын
Great analysis & presentation Jason. Seeing as the power & efficiency of the TJI tech is limited by roadcar emission here do you have information as to what the true maximum capability for fully realised lean AFR;s from F1 type 'active pre-chamber' TJI is in term of power/efficiency gains when compared to a traditional engine of equivalent size/config?
@mohammadahmadi7649
@mohammadahmadi7649 3 жыл бұрын
Cool idea
@ptolamaustittan
@ptolamaustittan 3 жыл бұрын
All that technology when the simplest way is electric motors . Seriously why even go there why even play that .
@arvidjohansson3120
@arvidjohansson3120 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t hear you over my V8😉
@ghoulbuster1
@ghoulbuster1 3 жыл бұрын
You call that efficient? HAH! Check out my anti-gravity Space Ship! Who needs an engine when you can glide trough the universe?
@ssaini5028
@ssaini5028 3 жыл бұрын
@@lancemason7911 only hipsters who have gender identity issues have EV's
@arvidjohansson3120
@arvidjohansson3120 3 жыл бұрын
@@ssaini5028 wow,calm down cowboy. I believe you should see a therapist if you have such an anger. Or at least do some reading on stoicism.
@brois841
@brois841 3 жыл бұрын
@@ssaini5028 this "hipster" has an EV (Tesla) as his daily driver and I'm telling you, it's the best car I've owned to date. Another way of looking at it is that we EV owners aren't so insecure that we need a slow V8 to prove we have our parts intact ;)
@kevinbarry71
@kevinbarry71 3 жыл бұрын
90 degree v6, starting off with a compromised design
@DapperHesher
@DapperHesher 3 жыл бұрын
Not really. It's what F1 uses.
@PFLEONARDI0906
@PFLEONARDI0906 3 жыл бұрын
Ferrari Dinos used a 85 degree V6 50 years ago.
@granturismobohemica6263
@granturismobohemica6263 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, what a great video! I am about to buy the MC20 and wanted to break it down to the smallest detail. Given this, your video explains one of the biggest questions - why on the videos of the car the RPMs fall so slowly. Right now, I guess its could be ECU strategy for either warming up the catalytic converter (the car has just started and the test pilot gave it revs) or it could be emission/noise strategy for vehicle being stationary (like Porsche, which opens exhaust valves strictly under load when moving). The engine doesn't appear to be so "sluggish" once it gets going doing rounds around Modena square.
@dodohoho3992
@dodohoho3992 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent
@knoblis
@knoblis 3 жыл бұрын
Of course those holes leading to the chamber will never clog with carbon build-up causing misfire, because italian.
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