Porsche's New 911 Engine Is Absolutely Brilliant - Formula 1 Tech!

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@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 5 ай бұрын
**Important Note!** If the engine makes 420 lb-ft, and the e-motor makes 110 lb-ft, why isn't peak torque 530 lb-ft (420 + 110)? Instead, it's 449 lb-ft. This is all about when & where peak torque occurs, and it is different for the engine and the electric motor. At low RPM, before the engine is making it's peak torque, the electric motor can provide its maximum of 110 lb-ft, giving you a huge boost in torque, but at an RPM where the engine can't provide much. As you get to higher RPM, you become more reliant on the engine (rather than the e-motor) for torque, so the peak value is 449 lb-ft. For power, the peak engine power (478 HP) and peak *continuous* motor power (54 HP) do line up, so you have 478 HP + 54 HP = 532 HP peak total system output (at 6,500 RPM). I should have included this in the video, hope that clears things up! *Edit 1:* For clarity at the end regarding does Lambda = 1 mean less power, my response of "no" is in response to the target power Porsche is aiming for. Could running rich mean more power with an aftermarket tune? Absolutely it could! Running rich is a tool of reducing combustion temperatures. This means you can potentially further advance ignition timing, and thus make more power. My statement is simply regarding Porsche's goal for the power output of the unit. The previous unit was already capable of running in the vast majority of use cases at Lambda = 1, yet it wasn't a talking point regarding the "low" output of the engine based on it stats. This segment was largely to address the innaccurate reports of this engine running higher boost, and being larger, and yet only making 5 HP additional, which is not true. The engine is ~20% larger, and runs ~10% less boost, so there's roughly a ~10% power drop relative to airflow. Thus it seems the peak potential is held slightly, but only slightly, not a massive deficit as some outlets are reporting. And the fact that Porsche was already running Lambda = 1 (in most use cases) further solidifies this; they were already capable of it, they just covered up some edge cases with the new strategy on the 3.6L.
@Dibbler613
@Dibbler613 5 ай бұрын
You lost me on lb-ft. I need Nm.
@BIGC728
@BIGC728 5 ай бұрын
@@Dibbler613 Do some simple math nerd
@adamolig3865
@adamolig3865 5 ай бұрын
@@Dibbler613 need vs want issue
@Cluuey
@Cluuey 5 ай бұрын
That all sounds very clever. Any idea how long the electric motor in the turbo is going to last in such a hot location? An explanation of how electric motors feed power into the drivetrain would be nice, I've thought about it a bit but I'm not cluey enough to work it out. 🙄😏
@fwebe2871
@fwebe2871 5 ай бұрын
@@Cluuey The exhaust turbine is used as a electric power generator and the generated electricity can be used to directly power the crank shaft, when no more bosst is needed or to power e.g. the A/C. It uses parts the otherwise wasted energy (thats what wastegates are designed for), which in return increases the overall efficiency, which usually is a benefit in overall power as well.
@HexenMeister4187
@HexenMeister4187 5 ай бұрын
As an engineer in exactly this department at Porsche, I have to say, that's a perfect presentation of what the team did 😊
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 5 ай бұрын
Well this is just so rewarding to hear! Hats off to your team!
@Lincos321
@Lincos321 5 ай бұрын
You know you have to hire him now, right? :)
@adrianishtar0
@adrianishtar0 5 ай бұрын
When he says that the lambda restriction doesn’t make a difference, do you agree? Or would your team be able to capitalize on an emissions unrestricted system?
@cupcakke1294
@cupcakke1294 5 ай бұрын
@@adrianishtar0 you didn't watch the video did you?
@adrianishtar0
@adrianishtar0 5 ай бұрын
@@cupcakke1294 Of course I did, otherwise I wouldn’t know that he claims that the e-turbo makes the lamda restriction irrelevant at 16:03. My point is, it’s actually an insult to the Porsche team to imply that they wouldn’t be able to make a better performing system if the lambda restriction was removed. Engineers pride themselves in being able to take an inch and go a mile, so clearly the lambda restriction is limiting what the system could do. Yes, this requires you to think a little instead of reflexively defending the statements made in the video.
@austinhunter7732
@austinhunter7732 5 ай бұрын
ONE is LESS than TWO... glad you clarified that for me, almost got lost in the math.
@Ioanides001
@Ioanides001 5 ай бұрын
It's not like most of us majored in Math!
@bandwagon240
@bandwagon240 5 ай бұрын
Instructions unclear, genitalia stuck in ceiling fan.
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 5 ай бұрын
No problem, here to answer any questions. Try to keep numbers below 10 though, I still use my fingers.
@furkanozden7563
@furkanozden7563 5 ай бұрын
well that is probably confusing Terrence Howard
@ThePwig
@ThePwig 5 ай бұрын
I think he meant to say “fewer,” actually.
@birgerjarl4391
@birgerjarl4391 5 ай бұрын
F1: Lets remove the mgu-h it not commercially relevant Porsche: I'm gonna have to stop you right there
@king_br0k
@king_br0k 5 ай бұрын
And they are not even a participant
@groundhabit6408
@groundhabit6408 5 ай бұрын
Note even the reason why they removed it 😂😂😂. It’s to bring more engine noise and reduce the overall weight for new regulations
@garmack12
@garmack12 5 ай бұрын
I thought it was because none of the teams ever managed to make them reliable
@anydaynow01
@anydaynow01 5 ай бұрын
@@king_br0k Isn't VW using the Porsche engine as a base for the one in the Audi car, or are they starting from the ground up?
@King_Cole
@King_Cole 5 ай бұрын
@@garmack12F1 cars & engines are incredibly reliable today compared to past standards. For F1, I think removing the MGUH is more an effort to reduce complexity but it’s sad to see it go. Such a clever innovation when Mercedes introduced this to F1. Porsche shows an MGUH is even relevant for road cars. I would not be surprised to see this in more affordable cars over the next 10-20 years. The benefits are pretty clear.
@robertcorbishley1712
@robertcorbishley1712 5 ай бұрын
As an engineer at Mahle Powertrain who worked on the e boosted red top down size engine I'm sure we could arrange to give you a tour of our facility and show you the next generation of Lambda 1 engines coming to market soon along with a bit more of an explanation of how we control temperatures with advanced combustion systems.
@robertcorbishley1712
@robertcorbishley1712 5 ай бұрын
And I could learn punctuation...
@RaihanSaputraa
@RaihanSaputraa 5 ай бұрын
please send him an email, i hope EE can have a tour and share it with us!
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 5 ай бұрын
Robert, please shoot me an e-mail - that'd be awesome! (instaexplained@gmail.com)
@johanbjork1650
@johanbjork1650 5 ай бұрын
Jason to Mahle. Why do I all of a sudden feel like Mexican food?
@BrattyBiker
@BrattyBiker 5 ай бұрын
Are Rotary engines being researched on at MAHLE as well ?
@eeeehuu2130
@eeeehuu2130 5 ай бұрын
I love how every brand goes: hybrid -> smaller motor Porsche goes: hybrid-> bigger motor. 😁
@BlacKi-nd4uy
@BlacKi-nd4uy 5 ай бұрын
i also loved the way bmw did in the 80th, when they engineered an engine to save fuel by increasing engine size. i owned and drove it for some years. it was incredible powerfull, but still efficient. look for the 325e (eta).
@uliwehner
@uliwehner 5 ай бұрын
@@BlacKi-nd4uy did love mine for 25 years and 250k miles
@pipeborrero
@pipeborrero 5 ай бұрын
AND bigger turbo
@fridaycaliforniaa236
@fridaycaliforniaa236 5 ай бұрын
@@BlacKi-nd4uy I've always been told than it's better to have a big slow engine than a raging little one. There's a reason why ships diesel engines are big. You would try to extract 6000 Hp from something the size of an APU...
@pasiutrial
@pasiutrial 5 ай бұрын
Toyota is always putting bigger motors in their hybrids compared to ICE only predecessors. So does Honda.
@koolpep
@koolpep 5 ай бұрын
German engineering students have a top list of companies they want to work for. Number one spot for decades: Porsche. Porsche can choose ANY top talent from German Universities at will. And they do, so they end up with brilliant engineers developing brilliant cars. I drive a Porsche and I get humiliated every time on the track by my car, it’s always secretly telling me: “That’s all YOU got? I could do a lot more you know? “
@cscheid
@cscheid 5 ай бұрын
The problem ( in my opinion ) is the engineers they hire seem to have never worked on a car before. Some of these new Porsche's are so ridiculous to work on, odd placements, odd executions. Sure it all works incredibly well, we all know that but when you have to work on them GAWD. I also find it unbelievably annoying that modern Porsche's don't have dipsticks, it's a simple thing to execute, why aren't we doing it
@ProMosab
@ProMosab 5 ай бұрын
​@cscheid just for your information, decision making is not made by a new engineer coming from the University, what you complain about is a general thing in the whole auto industry, eg more things need to be put in a car less space in car making modern cars difficult to work on, also with so many systems/devices need to be equiped this means the need to cut of the prices by quality prices management, because other wise these cars can be even more expensive
@Jadawin-kk3fz
@Jadawin-kk3fz 5 ай бұрын
Totally agree. Everyone wants to get to the GT and racing departement. Mahle is also a very interesting employer for the newbies.
@tt-rs1457
@tt-rs1457 5 ай бұрын
@@cscheid Very very well said, Sir. Hands down.
@drazenbudis7881
@drazenbudis7881 5 ай бұрын
Sad to hear you don’t get to truly enjoy your 911 tho. Its at their absolute dynamic limit (and ever slightly over it) where they are the most intoxicating.
@sevegarza
@sevegarza 5 ай бұрын
Just brewed myself a cup of coffee and then EE drops this? Perfect morning.
@tizodd6
@tizodd6 5 ай бұрын
Sounds like the start to a good day.
@heistkev
@heistkev 5 ай бұрын
Same! Coffee and this.
@marcinsmolinski903
@marcinsmolinski903 5 ай бұрын
its 5pm and dinner now at mine
@stephanalbrecht7889
@stephanalbrecht7889 5 ай бұрын
It's popping a beer time over here 🙂 cheers!
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 5 ай бұрын
Love this beverage train; alright grabbing my coffee while I peruse the comments!
@harryj1353
@harryj1353 5 ай бұрын
This is a very similar technology we used on the 919 Hybrid. Race technology always makes it to road cars.
@wolfkin4198
@wolfkin4198 4 ай бұрын
What I find really interesting as well is the fact that the e-Turbo now no longer requires a wastegate, and instead the turbine’s rpm can be controlled using the electric motor. So instead of letting exhaust gases bypass the Turbo, we use the excess to generate power for the e-system. Sounds a lot more efficient to me
@lqr824
@lqr824 3 ай бұрын
This was done on the last generation of piston-powered aircraft in the late 1940s-1950s. It's nothing new.
@maxjtj31
@maxjtj31 25 күн бұрын
@@wolfkin4198 I think a wastegate just bleeds excess air pressure from the compressor, all of the exhaust always has to go through the turbine (so it can go through rest of exhausts system). You are spot on though, e-turbos are very exciting indeed for multiple reasons. Takes the best characteristics of combustion and electric and puts it into one engine.
@cw12s7
@cw12s7 5 ай бұрын
13:06 "The car's been sitting in your garage overnight..." Yeah I wish
@w8stral
@w8stral 5 ай бұрын
If you can afford this Porche, yea you own a garage. If you can't afford the car, your garage prospects doesn't matter
@volvo09
@volvo09 5 ай бұрын
It's ok, there are electric turbos on Amazon for $30, we can all pretend we have this car, it'll be exactly the same.
@LRM12o8
@LRM12o8 5 ай бұрын
@w8stral WTF is a Porche, we're talking about Porsche! Meine Güte, it ain't that hard! 🙄
@charlesdee63
@charlesdee63 5 ай бұрын
But what about the electric motor between the engine and tranny? Does Amazon sell one of them too? Would it be sacrilege to park in in a carport?😅😂
@DracoOmnia
@DracoOmnia 5 ай бұрын
If I took out a home equity loan i might be able to buy this car... But it still wouldn't organize my garage for me 😂, only in my dreams do I have a clean organized garage AND a Porsche.
@davidepaula
@davidepaula 5 ай бұрын
One turbocharger is less than 2 turbochargers? I bet Terrence Howard would disagree with that!
@tomgnyc
@tomgnyc 5 ай бұрын
There's no such thing as turbochargers.
@eliasali9383
@eliasali9383 5 ай бұрын
Wut ​@@tomgnyc
@gqh007
@gqh007 5 ай бұрын
How can it have 1 turbo charger when 1x1 is 2
@vvevvevvvv
@vvevvevvvv 5 ай бұрын
​@@gqh0071x1=1. 1+1=2.
@brembopollypor9965
@brembopollypor9965 5 ай бұрын
@@gqh007Because it isn’t😂
@stantonlee2266
@stantonlee2266 5 ай бұрын
“Sometimes people on this channel say I lose them in the math…to be very clear, ONE turbocharger is less than TWO turbochargers.” 😂😂😂
@isobutylquinoline
@isobutylquinoline 5 ай бұрын
But more than 4 hamburgers.
@DrizzleDarth
@DrizzleDarth 5 ай бұрын
Still lost me lol
@assininecomment1630
@assininecomment1630 5 ай бұрын
Why did you tell us _exactly_ what all of us just heard?
@yeetskeet691
@yeetskeet691 2 ай бұрын
@@assininecomment1630so you know exactly what they’re reacting to. Have you ever read an article or a book?
@alexandervanwyk7669
@alexandervanwyk7669 5 ай бұрын
Simply amazing how they keeps on getting better. For the last quarter of a century I'm still driving my little Boxster every day. Soon heading for a quarter million kilometers, I still adores her. With all three kids grown and out of the house we both are now on retirement mode. The whole family used to race her at various tracks during our club meets. One day after an hour of hard racing we lost the brakes due to cooking of the brake fluid but when she cooled down again everything is simply back to normal. I don't want to boast but it is very possible that I ended up driving one of the best cars on the planet. PS Just today a woman walked up on me and could not get over my beautiful immaculate sportscar. From Africa with love.
@robertmassucci1
@robertmassucci1 5 ай бұрын
outstanding presentation, and it's not easy to write neatly on a vertical surface, good job with that too. People used to make copy's of my notebooks in college because of my penmanship and artwork. I had to go to graduate school to learn the actual teaching part! If you're not doing this for a living you're in the wrong occupation. you don't fumfer, say "um" or use any other stalling tactics. Almost every word is where it should be in the sentence, the sentences convey the info clearly and directly. No wasted breath or filler info anywhere, just an excellent lecture.
@BirdiesGoCherp
@BirdiesGoCherp 5 ай бұрын
I like this dude's humour, he should be an engineer.
@BurittoSandwich
@BurittoSandwich 5 ай бұрын
He should also start explaining complex car things in an easy way for us to understand.
@bitelogger
@bitelogger 5 ай бұрын
Mechanical Engineer if I recall from his first videos
@AliasHSW
@AliasHSW 5 ай бұрын
I know…such wasted talent that he’s just a low level wannabe KZbinr and drawing a bunch of colorful nonsense on a whiteboard
@anonmouse956
@anonmouse956 5 ай бұрын
The coldest insult of them all.
@thinklikeanant
@thinklikeanant 5 ай бұрын
I am still teaching him to improve his algebra . But it seems he is my most promising student
@aquarocket8165
@aquarocket8165 5 ай бұрын
That electric turbocharger is incredibly clever
@KarrasBastomi
@KarrasBastomi 5 ай бұрын
next is V8/V6 with split turbo with electric motor in between a la F1's MGU-H
@King_Cole
@King_Cole 5 ай бұрын
Honestly more clever than F1. Doesn’t even need a waste gate. That electric turbo is a thing of beauty. Will probably be the future of turbo charging for the next 10-20 years with all the hybrid cars coming out these days.
@dB_944
@dB_944 5 ай бұрын
Mightycarmods tried that years ago. Where’s Porsche been??? 😂
@TheGamingNorwegian
@TheGamingNorwegian 5 ай бұрын
@@dB_944 Clearly been busy engineering a GOOD reliable electric turbo.
@Lemingtona-x5g
@Lemingtona-x5g 5 ай бұрын
whats clever about putting motor on it? they could have done that decades ago
@maced071
@maced071 4 ай бұрын
I love your channel man. I’ve been following your for years and I own a small mobile mechanic business. You’re engineering background and the way you provide information in a collegiate form really works for and helps me. I appreciate all the effort you put into your whiteboards and the information and “math” lol you use. If people can’t understand your math and numbers, that’s on them because you put everything into Laymans terms as best as possible.
@ericmilliot5807
@ericmilliot5807 5 ай бұрын
This was a tremendously badass video for obvious reasons. You know when Porsche engineers are complimenting your videos that you've done a kick ass job! Thanks!
@ColeSpolaric
@ColeSpolaric 5 ай бұрын
The amount of shade and sarcasm in this video is just epic! Well done Jason!
@josealvarez1862
@josealvarez1862 5 ай бұрын
Brother getting lost in your math is exactly what I love by this channel please keep doing what you are doing. You are an educational gem in a sea of ignorance.
@skinnladen
@skinnladen 5 ай бұрын
This video is absolutley amazing. Your skill of explaining combined with the well balanced tempo and effective flow of information resonates so well with my 🧠
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 5 ай бұрын
Love to hear it! Thanks for watching 🙏
@rodtronics771
@rodtronics771 5 ай бұрын
@@EngineeringExplained you're the goat
@993mike
@993mike 5 ай бұрын
This new hybrid generation has a LOT of changes. I would be a a bit cautious about being an early adopter the first year or two, as even the master of reliability - Toyota - is having issues with the new generation turbo / hybrid motors, especially the V-6, in their new trucks and SUV’s
@skinnladen
@skinnladen 5 ай бұрын
@@993mike my wallet takes care of the caution for me 😂
@charlesdonly776
@charlesdonly776 5 ай бұрын
We have known this for years from Porsche. We have a 2012 cayenne s hybrid and have enjoyed most of these benefits including sail mode. The e turbo is a great addition.
@KLI123456
@KLI123456 5 ай бұрын
I think they were testing this while I was at BorgWarner! There was a test Porsche in the mod garage next to the tests I was running!
@yevdavydov2573
@yevdavydov2573 5 ай бұрын
Gotta love that Porsche, the only sports car manufacturer NOT in Formula 1 are the first ones to democratize what is essentially an MGU-H for a production car.
@ederss7
@ederss7 5 ай бұрын
This Porsche tech comes from the Le Mans 24h, Porsche 919. Le Mans had hybrid tech before F1.
@patthonsirilim5739
@patthonsirilim5739 5 ай бұрын
@@ederss7 yeah much better then f1 desgin since le man 24hr basicaly stress test the hell out of the system for 24hr straight and 24hr of leman has to focus on durability reliability and energy efficeincy those factor are a far greater criteria then f1 so its a much more relevent design factor for road cars.
@MH-ev3wr
@MH-ev3wr 5 ай бұрын
Totally, and when something goes wrong there is a team of people and an open checkbook to fix it, just like in F1.
@patthonsirilim5739
@patthonsirilim5739 4 ай бұрын
@@MH-ev3wr yes major repair can only happen before the race and after the race once the race start things like engine internals and gearbox are set either yor car make it to the 24hr of leman or you dont thats the beauty of the leman 24hrs you have to make the car as fast as possible but also as reliable as possible making the tech much more relevelent then say f1.
@jesseturner9865
@jesseturner9865 4 ай бұрын
A lot of Mercedes AMGs have this too.
@rogerokeefe3799
@rogerokeefe3799 5 ай бұрын
Thanks Jason, enjoyed seeing you in front of a very busy board and for making it clear that one turbo is less than two!
@adamsvette
@adamsvette 5 ай бұрын
Dude the burn on the emission complainers at 12:21 was hilarious 😂 10/10
@modal_derp
@modal_derp 5 ай бұрын
Your comment exhausted an extra pun for me, increasing the efficiency of the joke.
@maxpowers3732
@maxpowers3732 5 ай бұрын
How much will the air quality change based on ruining low production, low mileage sports cars engines? Maybe lookup straw man argument. No one is arguing against clean air, but having governments force cars to meet standards set by politicians instead of what people actually want to drive.
@neurofiedyamato8763
@neurofiedyamato8763 5 ай бұрын
Agreed. It was great lmao
@FernandoTRA
@FernandoTRA 4 ай бұрын
😂😂
@NosferatuandFriends
@NosferatuandFriends 4 ай бұрын
If he had a bit more nitric oxide in his bloodstream he'd weight more than 110lb.
@therealforestelf
@therealforestelf 5 ай бұрын
I used to be very close-minded and misinformed about hybrid engine technology, this is just awesome, love to see this development, very well explained! I'm no engineer but I feel like I've been properly informed and I can somewhat understand the concept. what a smart machine!
@davidreed9046
@davidreed9046 5 ай бұрын
Great explanation. I appreciate how you break things down. Especially something this complex. Porsche is showing the world that new tech is not always about making cars faster, but rather making them more efficient in more environments.
@matthewquinn937
@matthewquinn937 5 ай бұрын
that comment about clean air being good killed me
@hunterreeves6525
@hunterreeves6525 5 ай бұрын
Better air, better brain, papa johns
@pjay3028
@pjay3028 5 ай бұрын
Well, I didn't get it....!
@adrianishtar0
@adrianishtar0 5 ай бұрын
In the context of the real polluters (industry, agriculture, and aviation) there is really almost no significant impact of unrestricted emissions for Porsche cars.
@ShimmeringSword
@ShimmeringSword 5 ай бұрын
@@adrianishtar0 and yet it is also explained that you're not losing anything by having it run clean. Inhaling bad air does make you dumber, so, take the joke as it lands.
@adrianishtar0
@adrianishtar0 5 ай бұрын
@@ShimmeringSword You are actually losing performance by having it run ‘clean’. If there were no emissions restrictions the Porsche team would undoubtedly be able to design a higher performing system.
@fransb8543
@fransb8543 5 ай бұрын
Jason, I'm in awe of both Porsche's engineering and your excellent explanation.
@DonLee1980
@DonLee1980 5 ай бұрын
Just as Formula 1 said they were to get rid of MGU-H for their engines because they would be too complicated and have no usage in the real world, Porsche said, I'll have some of that.
@09juliancarr
@09juliancarr 5 ай бұрын
Ironically, they had to get rid of the MGU-H for Volkswagen Group (Audi & Porsche)!!! Also, there is no wastegate, as you just use the MGU-H to get rid of the excess energy
@DonLee1980
@DonLee1980 5 ай бұрын
@@09juliancarr and they dis-allowed front brake re-gen (which is the majority of braking energy goes), in case Le Mans experienced manufacturers have any advantages for the 2026 formula. absolute ridiculous...
@petouser
@petouser 5 ай бұрын
​@09juliancar More ironically, they already developed MGU-Hs in WEC LMP1 😂
@09juliancarr
@09juliancarr 5 ай бұрын
@@DonLee1980 yeah, it’s disappointing , but understandable. F1 has a specified weight distribution and front MGU-K would impact that. Plus they will not want driveshafts as another ‘blockage’ to the underfloor
@09juliancarr
@09juliancarr 5 ай бұрын
@@petouser So I guess it must be Audi that objected. Porsche were not even going to be ‘doing’ the power train… it was a naming exercise using Red Bull Powertrains. Really do not get it
@ninobatistaphoto
@ninobatistaphoto 5 ай бұрын
Best car channel on KZbin, hands down, since he started. Never tire of these. Thanks again, man.
@DavidMarra
@DavidMarra Ай бұрын
Thorough, quantitative, excellent vid. Thanks.
@MuchoBoosto7
@MuchoBoosto7 5 ай бұрын
That “Papa John’s” joke really got me 😂😂😂
@bnadembnadem8866
@bnadembnadem8866 3 ай бұрын
And i don't get it !😀
@roguedogx
@roguedogx 5 ай бұрын
0:20 I thought all engines sucked. That's how the air gets in. Lol
@seashackf1
@seashackf1 5 ай бұрын
😂 they do and the bigger or boosted they are the more they suck.
@whocares264
@whocares264 5 ай бұрын
they also blow
@theotherguy6951
@theotherguy6951 4 ай бұрын
@@whocares264They don’t blow, they fart
@shakesnbake
@shakesnbake 5 ай бұрын
I love that Porsche did their take on a hybrid. I wonder if there will be a bi-t-hybrid in the next Turbo S? Can't wait till you breakdown of the Lambo 10000rpm V8 hybrid that's coming in the next Huracan.
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 5 ай бұрын
Lambo video will happen! I’ve got some interviews with them soon (unique info!), so the embargo date is pushed out to August. But it’s coming!
@anydaynow01
@anydaynow01 5 ай бұрын
Yeah between the knowledge VW has with their Porsche and Lamborghini performance hybrid engineers, and their close relationship with Rimac, their Audi F1 entry shouldn't be wanting for PU engineering talent! Combine that with those deep VW pockets and Audi might actually have a shot.
@shakesnbake
@shakesnbake 5 ай бұрын
@@EngineeringExplained awesome 🙏
@Lemingtona-x5g
@Lemingtona-x5g 5 ай бұрын
@@anydaynow01 all started with the Nazis
@AlessandroGenTLe
@AlessandroGenTLe 5 ай бұрын
Well, they did it quite few years ago (the take on the hybrid) with the Panamera...
@pharmztko
@pharmztko 5 ай бұрын
I actually love this type of hybrid setup a lot more than straight gas powdered or electric powered. The E turbo is very interesting and makes a lot of sense. It’s nice to see how electric motors can help support the gas engines where they fall short without being fully electric and quiet and boring (although fast).
@zeluski
@zeluski 5 ай бұрын
been watching you for over a decade and got to say, you never fail to impress with your videos. Keep them coming!
@riccardogavanelli1076
@riccardogavanelli1076 5 ай бұрын
16:13 😂 got me there for a sec! Anyway what a clear explanation. Thanks! Please don’t ever abandon that white board ❤
@alexandermaynard5386
@alexandermaynard5386 5 ай бұрын
The humor in this is just 👌
@minicoop78
@minicoop78 5 ай бұрын
The sarcasm in this episode is on the money! Keep bringing it.
@jamesduncan578
@jamesduncan578 2 ай бұрын
After watching your videos I always feel smarter then I was. Thank you, You have an amazing way of presenting information.
@murrieteacher
@murrieteacher 28 күн бұрын
How did I miss this comprehensive explanation? The KZbin bell notification does seem to fail sometimes. And the note and the Edit 1 really does help too.
@aarronkelley7628
@aarronkelley7628 5 ай бұрын
Your wit and humor are unmatched, good sir. Keep the brilliance coming.
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 5 ай бұрын
Very kind, thanks for watching!
@benjaminwiner6220
@benjaminwiner6220 5 ай бұрын
@@EngineeringExplainedDo you think using braking heat for an electric motor wasn’t used by porsche because of the added weight of this system? I’m trying to figure out the difference, between… hybrid and electric systems Regenerative Braking Supercapacitors Electric turbos Electric batteries/motor like on teslas Electric motor on the transmission Hybrid motors on like a prius It might be an interesting video if you described and differentiated each type and their pros and cons
@amarured
@amarured 5 ай бұрын
Honestly: This is cool as HECK! Porsche's dedication to the further perfection of their petrol engines is AWESOME. Makes me really excited for what technologies will trickle down in the future! (Thanks for breaking it down for us. Easy, entertaining and informative. Amazing! As always!)
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 5 ай бұрын
Love this! These kind of comments are part of what makes creating these video a joy - happy to hear it!
@Berserkism
@Berserkism 5 ай бұрын
God damn the dick riding is extreme in here. This isn't new stuff and was available off the shelf 20+ years ago as a bolt on application LOL.
@BBingo-v5i
@BBingo-v5i 5 ай бұрын
As always great Porsche engineering!
@BudgetGamerz
@BudgetGamerz 5 ай бұрын
Really great and I am impressed. But would this be a nightmare to repair?
@Lemingtona-x5g
@Lemingtona-x5g 5 ай бұрын
@@BudgetGamerz it should be easier than Toyota to repair
@Fix_It_Again_Tony
@Fix_It_Again_Tony 5 ай бұрын
It is slightly easier at this price point, but Porsche has a heritage for sure. The test will be reliability. That is where the good engineering will be evident. Fast, good, cheap. Pick two.
@w8stral
@w8stral 5 ай бұрын
If this was done on a >>2L engine, I would agree, otherwise it is a waste. No one can use that 500HP
@billymays7210
@billymays7210 5 ай бұрын
@claytonj2024Tesla would fit the bill on that last one…
@iceman9678
@iceman9678 5 ай бұрын
I remember similar praises for the 'game changing' CVT.
@ishootitarw
@ishootitarw Ай бұрын
I rode in a prototype Borg Warner Porsche with the eTurbo system. During my time there, there was also a prototype Ford Mustang Ecoboost with an eTurbo system that made close to the same power as its V8 sibling. There's no turbo lag, handles like a naturally aspirated. The larger application eTurbos for hybrid semi trucks can actually use it for regen off engine braking going downhill. Really cool technology, Borg Warner is a cool place with cool engineers. Here's a funny story, when John Deere execs were there for an important board meeting, after it they were offered the opportunity to take a ride or drive either prototype vehicles (Porsche or Mustang). Not one took the offer. Just as boring as you'd expect them to be.
@drizzd1
@drizzd1 5 ай бұрын
I have been screaming to the heavens for a manufacturer to do this kind of idea for years. I am unbelievably hyped
@maxjtj31
@maxjtj31 5 ай бұрын
Same man. Kind of the ultimate form of the combustion engine.
@rwilliam99
@rwilliam99 5 ай бұрын
Jason, I don't comment much, but I just have to say, I really enjoyed this video. I love how you combine practical topics with math to explain engineering decisions. This was awesome! I've learned a lot from your videos and always enjoy them. Love to see the math behind things.
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 5 ай бұрын
Happy to hear it, thanks for leaving such a kind comment, and thanks for watching!
@isobutylquinoline
@isobutylquinoline 5 ай бұрын
Can't wait for the 230K fully loaded GTS and $280K Turbo S (without dealer markups). What a time to be alive!
@cvn6555
@cvn6555 5 ай бұрын
As much as I admire the engineering and improvements, it did occur to me as well that the MSRP will leap upwards as a result of all of this complexity. And that is on top of the stratospheric pricing we have seen in the last 6-7 years. It hits me extra hard because I am finally in a position where I can buy one of these outright but the higher prices keep making me not want to spend such a large amount. Once I get mentally comfortable with the price, it jumps up again. This one will be a huge leap.
@MrAguayokun
@MrAguayokun 5 ай бұрын
​@@cvn6555pay for my bus pass for a few years, and know that the savings I get from using public transit will offset the emissions from you, allowing you to purchase a cheaper and quicker car with less complex parts, which also saves you a few trips to the dealer/mechanic for recalls and repairs. New systems like this tend to have a few bugs to work out in the coming years.
@brandonhoffman4712
@brandonhoffman4712 5 ай бұрын
I just know I'm going to love this video! Thanks for covering this tech. It's a game changer for ice vehicles.
@PaddiAkk
@PaddiAkk 5 ай бұрын
"One turbocharger is less than two turbochargers." I follow your channel especially because of the math, bro! This joke was awesome :D.
@Book_Of_RH
@Book_Of_RH 5 ай бұрын
"More power, more torque, wider torque curver... better emissions; Papa John's" LOL kills me every time. As a math nerd with ADHD, I admit sometimes I get a little lost in the math- never made it this far in my studies, but got to calc & pre-calc at least. It mostly makes sense, and if I start to fall off a little, there's little gold nuggets for me sprinkled throughout- Thank you Jason! Genuinely learn quite a lot from your videos :)
@dyorkii
@dyorkii 5 ай бұрын
This is one of those rare videos that I want to hit the 'like button' multiple times. HAHAHA
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 5 ай бұрын
Ha, appreciate it! Just make sure it's an odd number of likes, otherwise it doesn't count. :) Thanks for watching!
@ohhSLR
@ohhSLR Ай бұрын
Cant believe i only now found this Channel.. Love the content!
@TheNiteinjail
@TheNiteinjail 4 ай бұрын
The density of information delivered with charm and wit is astounding... Entertaining and so much info. 👍
@jonathanstokes7791
@jonathanstokes7791 5 ай бұрын
Genuine question; when the electric turbo is using its electric motor to compress the fuel/air mixture, does it also power the exhaust impeller? If so, does this suck the exhaust gases out faster, and does that provide a performance advantage?
@327efrain
@327efrain 5 ай бұрын
That is a great question. Commenting hoping he sees this and answers.
@forzer45
@forzer45 4 ай бұрын
I would think that they share a common shaft. At least in F1 they do, and imo it would be easier to do with the bearings etc being on a common axle.
@edonveil9887
@edonveil9887 4 ай бұрын
Second question still unanswered... would the spinning reduce exhaust back pressure? My guess is "not" as it would imitate the boost side.
@sandman2b
@sandman2b 5 ай бұрын
Another wonderfully thoughtful, informative and too easy to understand than it should be video. Bravo! Also, I appreciate the added *Important Note!* clarifying the peak torque that the ICE + e-motor makes...Encore.
@solitivity
@solitivity 5 ай бұрын
You saying what you said and ending it with "Papa John's" is like a good sneeze finally coming out after your nose has itching for a minute. 😭😂
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 5 ай бұрын
😂😂
@feedingravens
@feedingravens 5 ай бұрын
2:05: In the torque diagram you could have added two lines that indicate that the new engine at idle has the same torque as the old engine at 2,000 rpm. Meaning you can accelerate in the city without gas where previously you already created noise - your neighbours will love it.
@CaomeiMonster
@CaomeiMonster 5 ай бұрын
Super interesting video. Car engineers are the most humble career professionals, they continue to perfect the engineering that no one cares about, but Jason. Everyone else out there just goes ‘but does it come with a stick shift?’
@jkliao6486
@jkliao6486 5 ай бұрын
I still don't understand the why certain people think hybrid is automatically not cool. They are probably the same kind of people who thought steam engine is automatically not cool when they replaced horses.
@TassieLorenzo
@TassieLorenzo 5 ай бұрын
Honda NSX was such a spectacular flop it seemed to poison the idea of hybrid sportscars. Reviews of the Mercedes C63 AMG Hybrid have been even worse than for the NSX (*lots* of complaints of the extra 400kg of the new C63 compared to the old C63). We'll see if Porsche has more success with a relatively mainstream (compared to exotic 918 Spyder) hybrid sportscar!
@DudeSWEEET
@DudeSWEEET 5 ай бұрын
Not many manual transmissions in hybrid vehicles...
@TassieLorenzo
@TassieLorenzo 5 ай бұрын
@@DudeSWEEET Honda Insight and CR-Z! Again, they were spectacular sales flops for some reason... It's almost like buyers would prefer to have a bigger engine (emissions/WLTP/CAFE permitting) and no hybrid system at all...
@gloofisearch
@gloofisearch 5 ай бұрын
In the US, most people know hybrids as Prius or any other family sedan, ergo, not cool;-)
@JoshuaTootell
@JoshuaTootell 5 ай бұрын
True, but we are a dying breed and will be irrelevant soon ​@@DudeSWEEET
@black350Z
@black350Z 5 ай бұрын
I'm traditionally a Porsche Purists. I hate hearing about LS swapped 911's. I'm a die-hard NA flat 6 boi. But this engine is super cool. Porsche knows how to tech.
@hansvanlennep6376
@hansvanlennep6376 5 ай бұрын
You know what my toothbrush REALLY needs? An app..... Hahahahahaha thoroughly enjoyed the sarcasm in this comment.
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 5 ай бұрын
😜😜
@rishi5714
@rishi5714 4 ай бұрын
bravo Porsche! I see this is perhaps a most ingenious efficient power train design in history of car thus far! The balance of weight / power / range / energy efficiency gotta be the best can be for auto design today. I'd bet! However, there is only one potential issue I'm not sure if it should be of concern? As we know turbo operates very hot! So I'm wondering how that might affect the e-turbo electric motor's durability long term? It's a much more complex turbo design, with some sensitive parts & materials! Any thought?
@chaos_freak
@chaos_freak 5 ай бұрын
That's so much explanation for one engine! I love it. Also as a fellow engineer, I can confirm that ONE is definitely LESS than TWO!
@pootube45
@pootube45 5 ай бұрын
loved it 😀 laughed out loud multiple times, thanks Jason
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@3storiesUp
@3storiesUp 5 ай бұрын
Exhaust regen is very interesting
@nowayjose596
@nowayjose596 5 ай бұрын
Yeah definitely would have liked to see more info on that.
@adrianishtar0
@adrianishtar0 5 ай бұрын
I wonder if it is only at the couple of seconds where you are at high rpm but let of the throttle so that instead of closing the throttle it restricts the exhaust by harvesting its energy with the turbo.
@DaneRThomas
@DaneRThomas 5 ай бұрын
Much more elegant and useful than the power recovery turbines used on the radial engines in the DC-7 and Super Constellation.
@danielbalcan6270
@danielbalcan6270 5 ай бұрын
To "Why?" question the answer would be: In the EU there are implementing new technical rules regarding safety and pollution so the big engines must swipe the turbos with electric motors and things of that kind.
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 5 ай бұрын
Yep, from what I've read EU7 needs Lambda = 1. But this video explains why they'd want that (TWC efficiency).
@erkinalp
@erkinalp 5 ай бұрын
@@EngineeringExplained What about NA engines?
@Bassalicious
@Bassalicious 5 ай бұрын
@@erkinalp They can run leaner fuel mixtures by design as the exhaust gas isn't being restricted by a turbine and hence cylinder temps and pressures are generally lower. Even somewhat older NA engines already run pretty close to lambda=1.
@adamcousins2459
@adamcousins2459 2 ай бұрын
@@Bassalicious Pre-efi economy engines routinely ran at lambda >1. IIRC the Chrysler slant 6 was tuned to cruise at 16.5:1. That's how they were able to achieve fuel economy in the mid 20mpg range, with sub 9:1 compression, carburetion, and a 3 speed transmission. Insisting that engines run at stoich is one of the largest technological mistakes/scams in modern history. If we would actually focus on reducing consumption through simplicity, the world would be much better off. It doesn't make sense that we are completely ignoring actual thermal and mechanical efficiency, making engines more and more heavy and complex and expensive, when we knew the secret to efficiency over a century ago. Emissions regulations are causing us to consume easily twice as much petroleum than we otherwise would be. It's important to note that tailpipe emissions are negligible compared to the overall carbon footprint of the transportation and petroleum industry. Getting that stuff out of the ground causes way more pollution that actually burning it. Just one more example of regulations that are written by and for billionaire oil tycoons, at the expense of consumers and the planet. If not for emissions regulations, petroleum demands would be much lower, as overall fuel economy would be significantly better. Obviously this would impact profits.
@fmmchannel6365
@fmmchannel6365 4 ай бұрын
To be honest this is what i have been thinking about electric turbochargers about the engine and stuff on big turbos eliminating the need of 2nd turbo to reduce lag. I didn't know about this lambda = 1 stuff though. well done Jason for explaining it!!
@bmjranch
@bmjranch 5 ай бұрын
Love the humor in this video in addition to the great explanations!
@wolfganghimmelsbach6929
@wolfganghimmelsbach6929 5 ай бұрын
as always brilliant humor and great content, congrats to Jason and Porsche
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 5 ай бұрын
Much appreciated!
@UncleFjester
@UncleFjester 5 ай бұрын
*My Porsche salesman just texted me ths link to this video!*
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 5 ай бұрын
You buying now? 😂
@Lemingtona-x5g
@Lemingtona-x5g 5 ай бұрын
they have their own sales video about the technology
@charles2167fr
@charles2167fr 5 ай бұрын
I knew a major in applied math could be useful some day - I rarely get lost in the math - though I did appreciate the clarification that 1 IS [objectively] less than 2 😂
@MandyFlame
@MandyFlame 5 ай бұрын
I have a degree in pure mathematics, which allows me to actually prove that one is less than two from first principles. Number theory rocks!
@BionicBuddhaX
@BionicBuddhaX 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for this explanation. When I first read some headlines about this new drivetrain, this stuff is exactly what I wanted to know.
@pauldaggett6759
@pauldaggett6759 5 ай бұрын
An amazing explanation of an incredibly complex engine!! Bravo!!
@pstoppani
@pstoppani 5 ай бұрын
Impressive engineering yet undesirable for so many reasons. I'll take the NA Cayman GTS over this complexity.
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 5 ай бұрын
I'm with ya on team NA! But this is replacing a turbo engine, and it's going to be SO much better.
@Lemingtona-x5g
@Lemingtona-x5g 5 ай бұрын
just get a Toyota Corolla
@BlasterJunos
@BlasterJunos 5 ай бұрын
Isn't the Boxster going full EV next gen?
@Lemingtona-x5g
@Lemingtona-x5g 5 ай бұрын
@@BlasterJunos where the engine is they can put a motor and battery pack
@sparkpaul
@sparkpaul 4 ай бұрын
NA all the way. This is over engineering, unnecessary complexity, for small benefit with added weight, higher cost and failure rate and maintenance. 🤦
@jospi2
@jospi2 5 ай бұрын
I still remember Cleetus Mcfarland with his electric turbocharger.
@lifeishard1211
@lifeishard1211 5 ай бұрын
it's not a electric turbocharger, it's a supercharger. turbos use exhaust.
@sethennis3316
@sethennis3316 4 ай бұрын
A single turbo 1.6l 3 cylinder would be cooler tho
@LMBLNCR
@LMBLNCR 4 ай бұрын
Gr Yaris 😂
@ProjectAjax
@ProjectAjax 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for covering this! Love your channel! Also... I think you would do well building a project car (even the Maverick) picking components and parts that were best engineered overall efficiency, power, etc. test a bunch of parts and choose based on results.
@ruru2500
@ruru2500 5 ай бұрын
Really cool tech there, thanks for walking us through it
@tool8337
@tool8337 5 ай бұрын
the snark right off the bat lol
@BiggMo
@BiggMo 5 ай бұрын
4:17 tooth brush with an app… imagine the data you’re giving away
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 5 ай бұрын
“It looks like this whiteboard guy brushes at the extreme level. We’ve never seen anything like it!” Jokes aside you don’t have to use the app; they sent me two, one I never connected and it works great with three different standard settings. But if you want to adjust them yourself you need the app.
@JoshuaTootell
@JoshuaTootell 5 ай бұрын
My ex GF had a toothbrush with an app 5 years ago.
@TheMadmax0609
@TheMadmax0609 5 ай бұрын
Holy paranoid..
@MetalheadAndNerd
@MetalheadAndNerd 5 ай бұрын
The first version from 10 years ago already allowed for sharing of your brushing habits on social media. The idea was to get kids to boast about their teeth brushing.
@edonveil9887
@edonveil9887 4 ай бұрын
Chess players were waiting for this.
@HoggCasco
@HoggCasco 5 ай бұрын
*If you are not in the financial market space right now, you are making a huge mistake. I understand that it could be due to ignorance, but if you want to make your money work for you.... prevent inflation*
@SchwiesowLoeblein
@SchwiesowLoeblein 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for continuing updates I'd rather trade the crypto market as it's more profitable. I make a good amount of money per week even though I barely trade myself.
@HoggCasco
@HoggCasco 5 ай бұрын
A lot of people still make massive profit from the crypto market, all you really need is a relevant information and some
@SchwiesowLoeblein
@SchwiesowLoeblein 5 ай бұрын
You trade also?, I tried trading after watching some videos on < KZbin but still keep making losses, how do you
@HoggCasco
@HoggCasco 5 ай бұрын
No I don't trade on my own anymore, I always required help and assistance
@HoggCasco
@HoggCasco 5 ай бұрын
From my personal financial advisor
@TheRayCaruso
@TheRayCaruso 5 ай бұрын
Love the humor combined with the awesome explanation. Great stuff as always.
@petevb
@petevb 5 ай бұрын
First: this is the new 911 Turbo engine, just detuned. Second: this is tge first time I’ve seen that cat efficiency explanation which puts the pieces together. Outstanding.
@jfv65
@jfv65 5 ай бұрын
These concept seems to be particulary useful for motorcycles where you never want any lag, you need smooth linear powerdelivery. Very cool concept!
@user-tq7bg8hd9e
@user-tq7bg8hd9e 3 ай бұрын
Just connect the turbo to the crank and have the turbo powered by the exhaust and a motor that switches between acting as a motor and as a generator.
@charquail
@charquail 4 ай бұрын
I love these breakdowns! One turbo is less than two turbos, great opener! 😂 Here's a content suggestion. There's a pretty big controversy on the AMG side where they get rid of the V8 for an I4 in their C63. It would be nice to see this similar breakdown of the C63S versus the C63SE. It wouldn't calm down the hurr-durr V8 roar crowd, but it'd be nice to see the technical breakdown of the new platform. Thanks Jason!
@pratyushkumar9591
@pratyushkumar9591 4 ай бұрын
0:45 got it THANKS that really helped me.👍👍👍
@mbradea
@mbradea 5 ай бұрын
@EngineeringExplained Jason a fantastic video as per usual, great job on the research /+ explanations. Any way you could do a similar one on BMW’s new 2025 48-volt engines? In particular they’ve FINALLY brought the 48-volt system to the 4-cylinder cars. However they have been SO hush on any of the numbers (torque curve, fuel economy etc.) since I think putting it out on the open would cannibalize their whole likely-outdated 6-cylinder strategy. The power and torque numbers on the 4-cylinders are IDENTICAL to the prior-years, non-mild-hybrid engines, meaning the entire difference must be within the power/torque curve characteristics and fuel economy (due to the regenerative braking). Would REALLY love a proper deep-dive explanation into what they’re actually hiding.
@MostlyPennyCat
@MostlyPennyCat 4 ай бұрын
I've wondered for YEARS why turbo lag wasn't solved with an electric motor. It only has to run until there's enough exhaust pressure then you switch it off.
@ghislainbernard7546
@ghislainbernard7546 5 ай бұрын
You should inject water in that heat bubble. Expansion of water would also spool the turbo and help regulate the heat...
@jameshatton4211
@jameshatton4211 5 ай бұрын
3 things. 1. When do you get to test drive one? The demo of the McLaren was epic so the Porsche seems additive to that performance! 2. More emphasis needs to be put on "when" the electric motor can be made to work..... It's essentially an electric super charger direct driving the engine crank? Let that sink in a little 3. What compression ratio does this boxer 6 run? Is it any different or is there just an increase in displacement? I would love to know what water injection and unlocking more boost from the e turbo could conjure up? It's definitely a wild consideration
@SSDDOOGG
@SSDDOOGG 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comprehensible explanation. Would this engine have more potential for tuning than the older engine?
@V100-e5q
@V100-e5q 5 ай бұрын
Very good and easy to follow explaination. I wish I could be that clear and easy to express myself. 18:07 Slight critic here: The backpressure develops with the small turbocharger because of its lower volume (lower gas throughput). Small diameter = more resistance. Okay. That you are trying to remedy with a larger turbo. But that comes with the disadvantage of more delayed action. So you put an electric motor in to help it spin up. (BTW, that concept was once called a compressor. An individual air pump driven not by the exhaust but by outside power (electric motor). Nothing new here. Used on Kompressor Mercedes.) So why can't one use an electric motor with the small compressor/turbo in the first place? That has the advantage of shorter response (smaller diameter fans spin up faster) than a larger turbo. Because the reason for the larger turbo is because of it being driven only by the exhaust gasses. Once you install an outside source of propulsion that point becomes moot. I see larger volume vs. outside motor as alternatives.
@josepeixoto3384
@josepeixoto3384 5 ай бұрын
That's exactly what was needed, bravo,more horses for the aces, now i just need to wait until the speedo limito is upped to 200 mph
@SenorGato237
@SenorGato237 5 ай бұрын
My '03 Impreza had bugeye headlights and a boxer engine. It was basically a Porche. Seriously though, that's a pretty sweet drivetrain.
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