No, Tesla Cybertruck Is *Not* Faster Than Porsche (While Towing)

[@EngineeringExplained]

**Important Update!** I asked MotorTrend for their 1/8th mile time for the 2023 Porsche 911 Carrera T (7MT). They confirmed it at 8.0 seconds and 93.1 mph. That's *FASTER* than the Tesla towing a 911 did it (~8.25s), and ~0.38 seconds *FASTER* than the Porsche 911 alone did it in Tesla's video. This implies the 911 beats the Cybertruck (while towing) in the 1/8th, as well. So... what's up with the 911's slow time in the video? Worth repeating - 911 T is the slowest current gen hard top 911, so it's the best one to use as reference against the video. **Important Update 2!** Cybertruck's lead engineer, Wes Morrill, has tweeted additional information: "Love the detailed breakdown @jasonfenske13 - well done! One underlying assumption, which is what any reasonable engineer would assume: the video showed was the best run. It was not. But it was the most dramatic finish. So "why didn't we do a full 1/4mi?" The fastest 1/8mi CT hit while towing on the day was 7.808s at 88mph and the trailer tires were only rated to 80mph so we opted to call it a day before someone got hurt. Our simulations showed the full 1/4 mi race would be close but with the same net result, so no need to risk it. We also had some room to further lightweight the trailer but didn't need to. I'm glad this is so unbelievable that people care to do this analysis." x.com/wmorrill3/status/1746266437088645551?s=20 **Edit 1:** Some folks have issue with the assumption of linear acceleration for the remaining 1/8th mile. Let's talk about it! First off, that's a very fair thing to have issue with. My intention was not to provide an exact measurement of the 1/4 mile time, but rather to show that it is not as close to 12.3 sec as it may seem in the first half of the assessment. Hence, I used a "~" when showing the "final" quarter mile time, though I should have been more clear about this. There absolutely won't be linear acceleration, so there is some play with this number. However, let's use the Cybertruck alone as an example since we have all the numbers. 99 mph at the 1/8th, and 119 mph at the 1/4. We know it did this in 4.06 seconds. Using linear acceleration to guesstimate the time required, you would get 4.13 seconds (0.125 mi / 109 mph avg speed * 3600s/hr = 4.128 seconds). 4.06 and 4.13 are pretty close (both rounding to 4.1 seconds). Using this methodology *won't* give you an exact answer, it's just closer to reality than saying "it can't do it in 12.3 seconds, the end." Also, this is assuming the towing Cybertruck maintains strong acceleration above 88 mph, a challenging feat when the aerodynamic drag of both cars is going to be very significant. This little tid-bit at the end was meant as a "let's get closer to the real number" so we can confidently say it would or would not win in the 1/4 mile, because 12.2 vs 12.3 looks like it could be a toss up, whereas in reality the gap is more meaningful. Hope this info helps! **Edit 2:** Some folks wanted to know where 24 FPS (frames per second) came from. 24 FPS is a very common speed for cinema & pro shoots in North America. You can easily download the Tesla video and check for yourself. However, for those who want to see proof, I've uploaded a video so you can see the frames counted: x.com/jasonfenske13/status/1746202913712836968?s=20

[@LePedant]

Elon's ego is so big, it created a gravitational field that warped spacetime, slowing down time the closer you get to Elon. If he were standing on the Porsche side of the track, it would make it slightly slower, than the Cyber Truck.

[@mateokovac2642]

Well, the 911 was driven by an employee. Elon to the 911 driver: You win this race and i'll fire you 😂

[@NoelFallstrom]

It is easy to explain away half second discrepancies with different drivers and reaction times. Especially with a manual transmission. That is why all good tests are repeated and the average is used after removing outliers. Still a fun marketing stunt, but I also hate how it is misleading. They could have used the averages and still said that it could pull a 911 in a quarter mile less than a second slower than it could drive itself.

[@Euromasterrace5000]

@@NoelFallstrom Elon knew that the investors will promote this race all over social media and doubters will be muted/banned as usual.

[@chadmueller9135]

Rich rebuilds, a big Teslafan, said this race definitely was fake as well, typical Teslamarketingstunt.

[@D4Z3Dii]

The drawing of the cybertruck as a triangle, and 911 clearly as a beetle is top class automotive humour :D

[@arcelivez]

Only for the 911 part. The Cyber truck literally looks like that, I don't see humor on that one.

[@acvisuals]

wanted to comment the exact same thing

[@andrewk8636]

The porche is a glorified slug bug too @@arcelivez

[@mauricegoqwana8436]

its like, the joke was made by Jeremy Clackson lol

[@wuhanclan]

It's not a coincidence that Beetles and Porches look extremely similar. The original Beetle was literally designed by Ferdinand Porsche, who would design all of his cars after that original beetle design.

[@AlanCessa]

The accuracy of the 911s drawn in the board is astounding!

[@FuncleChuck]

The truck is even more accurate

[@AlanCessa]

those I just thought were pictures pasted into the board, amazing stuff!@@FuncleChuck

[@alltheusernameswastaken8936]

more accurate than anything Elon has ever said :)

[@vinumcopia9850]

I thought it looked more like a VW Beetle, but great presentation by Jason nevertheless.

[@CPWaite83]

Thats the joke @@vinumcopia9850

[@bonaudi]

I can confirm it was a ¨Porsche 911 Carrera T¨ because they have Agate Gray colored side mirrors and wheels (only the T has that option as standard, and wouldn't be a common/available choice as optionals for other models).

[@winc06]

Damn, you're good.

[@remiltonsilveira7314]

That's what we where missing, one truly Porsche nerd. Thank you, man!

[@acchaladka]

Has the word Audi in his use name. Casually doing minutiae about my brand Porsche. 🙏. Respect must be paid.

[@Derekzparty]

Wouldn't be common isn't the same as confirmed.

[@bonaudi]

@@Derekzparty To pull out the stunt, Elon needed the lighter 911 which is the T =100 pounds lighter and cheaper than the standard Carrera. Nobody in his sane mind would spec a Standard Carrera with smaller 19-inch wheels and pay extra for that specific paint (which cost a lot and is not even available to any other model than the T) ...and done twice! because both cars have almost identical specs. It is an effortless and cheap Carrera T spec from factory. 100% sure about it.

[@Patrick-xt7bm]

It's really wonderful to come across people who freely share valuable information online. You never know what kind of knowledge you might stumble upon that could have a lasting impact on your life.

[@jose-u5t7b]

He's not an engineer. I think he is Booger from Revenge of The Nerds. The guy from Stuff made here is an engineer.

[@Rodney.or99]

Jeremy Clarkson would be proud how you drew the 911 as VW Beetle 😁

[@talkingmango8658]

@@t.n.-js6eibased on this comment, I’m not surprised your uncle got hit by a car. Tbh I’m surprised your entire bloodline isn’t constantly in accidents.

[@Xxjayz0120xX]

@@talkingmango8658 I'm confused as to how you came to this conclusion?

[@tm5123]

Or the cybertruck as a triangle .

[@Pia-ho9dm]

​@@talkingmango8658exactly, seriously though, he did not even attempt to explain why the vws beetle is better. 🤦‍♂️

[@Pia-ho9dm]

​@@Xxjayz0120xXare you not confused by the comment he replied to?

[@sf7234]

Congrats on benching 500lbs we all knew you could do it Jason!

[@invariant47]

on mars*

[@EngineeringExplained]

The comments kept telling me to work out, so I tried it. Was easy!

[@dantethunderstone2118]

As Niel degrass Tyson said- “it’s just physics”

[@Kenmanhl]

Is a pulley system allowed?

[@ramonallende]

The physics of fitting a 6’6” frame in a Mazda Miata for the next video please 😂

[@godzgr8]

Best part of the video is the art. The fact you characterized CT as a triangle on wheels and the 911 as a VW beetle has me dead 😅

[@antibrevity]

The drawings were great and I'm sure that Porsche fans get the reference.

[@Niaaal]

Volkswagen does own Porsche

[@agrisimfarming]

The real reason is the 911 and the VW old beetle were both designed by Ferdinand Porsche and the 911 was loosely based on the Beetle’s design.

[@user-rh4yy5bl7h]

It's just like an engineer to do all this math to solve a point when the much easier path is: "Is Tesla's Cybertruck faster than a Porshe 911 in a quarter mile? NO, because if it was the marketing department would have shown THAT."

[@Fabrizia-o1y]

Yeah that's right. The 911 beats the truck in the 1/4 mi. if the truck is towing a 911!! That truck is slow. This is all this "engineer" tells us. Dude, ahould go apply at Tesla, he might get a job cleaning Musk's toilet. Funny, how he also casually mentions that the truck does win if it is not towing another vehicle! Do you not see the absurdity? How does this make the Porsche look better or the truck worse? All the guys here seem like a bunch of pu.... who got their panties in a bunch because a truck smoked them.

[@PaulSpades]

Didn't Elon use to boast about Tesla not having a marketing department?

[@dda40x]

Sure, but there’s still a difference between “I’m certain they cheated” and “it’s proven that they cheated”.

[@derekwhite5090]

I hate Math, yet I watched the whole video…..Go figure!

[@bradstewart7007]

Except it's way faster than a 911 at the quarter mile. It's only not faster at the quarter while TOWING another 911.

[@johnnybow7045]

My favourite thing in this video is the way Jason drew the Cybertruck as a literal triangle and the 911 as a VW Beetle. Love it! 🪲

[@wastingtime]

I think its a clever way for Jason to portray his opinion of both! haha

[@tarettime9392]

@@wastingtimeif you know history the 911 was literally born out of the beetle

[@nanob0zo]

Ah, I thought it was an actual photo of a cybertruck - thanks for correcting me. :|

[@someidot3699]

beetle? thats 100% a 911 no idea where ur even getting beetle from

[@artheart5652]

😂

[@sandergjertsenstvold1051]

Technically speaking, the 911 on the trailer was just as fast as the Cybertruck

[@edwardbachman9135]

🤣

[@chrisballen7851]

Not really, it's trailing behind. 😁

[@360dom360]

If you're comparing the time it takes for 911 on the trailer to cross the finish line from the start line, it's technically a little faster actually (assuming the CT continued accelerating slightly past the finish line)

[@DJ_POOP_IT_OUT_FEAT_LIL_WiiWii]

LITERALLY

[@mekanicthe3rd]

@@chrisballen7851 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓

[@Mr_Chaos24]

As someone who works in the automotive industry as a Technician at volkswagen in Germany i can totally confirm that this is the right way to draw a Porsche 😂

[@Supremax67]

It is missing the drawing of the Porsche towing a cyber truck 😂

[@mionellessi3086]

Have you seen the Herbie Porsche from 24h of Spa race?

[@escariol]

Natürlich, ist ja auch ein Sportkäfer............

[@FeWo_Krohn_Cuxhaven]

Grüße an alle Deutschen hier :D

[@Gfysimpletons]

@@FeWo_Krohn_Cuxhaventhey’re too busy bowing down to immigrants

[@----.__]

If they'd said, "The Cybertruck can tow a 911 over a quarter mile within a second of the time that the 911 alone does the quarter mile" then people would still be impressed, because that is arguably still an impressive feat.

[@SimonASNG]

Yea, but just a little too wordy to really get across to most customers. Like most news these days, the truth will never catch up with the video of the truck beating the 911, and most people will just remember the lie.

[@agenericyoutubehandle]

"The cybertruck towing a 911 can clear a 1/4 mile in about the same time as the 911 itself" Roughly the same word count as the official statement, but less bullshitty

[@----.__]

@@SimonASNG I live in hope that the world will return to a time where people have an attention span longer than.... Oh wait, notification, brb.

[@JustSomeRando1331]

Elon Skum would sooner stab out his own eyes than tell the truth that his piece of crap toy car could possibly be anything but the fastest.

[@affegpus4195]

At this point I feel like he just can't stop bsing, even when he doesn't need to

[@GBplayswithcars]

Jason, you rock. I love how you drew the 911 as a VW beetle, alongside the Cybertruck as just a triangle on wheels. Genius. I look forward to your future video on the biomechanics of benching 500 lbs.

[@sheezle3]

Many people would be surprised to learn the name of the guy who designed the beetle

[@JonnyJKF]

Let's just all take a moment to appreciate Jason's impressively accurate 1:20 scale illustration of a Cybertruck towing a 911.

[@jesusfreakpl]

wanted to say the same. lifelike!

[@segredosdotiosam9989]

LOL at t he drawings. The CT is a triangle. The 911 is a beetle.. lol

[@EngineeringExplained]

That's the result of over a decade of whiteboard doodling experience. 💪

[@G82Watts]

The regular tesla model s plaid posted a 7:35 .. the taycan turbo s posted a 7:33 .. porsche beat the plaid when both used street tires . tesla "Track pack" cheated it had to use track tire semi slicks (GoodYear Eagle F1 SuperCar 3Rs) that are only used for track times not for street use to beat the porsche taycan,panamera turbo s, m5cs,m3cs, and some other 4 door sedans that all used STREET TIRES. The tesla plaid has 1,000hp and the other cars i named have 400hp less then the plaid. Yet when they all used street tires those cars beat it. The semi slicks on the track pack plaid alone shaves off 10-15 sec. The track pack then posted a 7:25 Think how embarrassing that is that a car with 1000hp couldn't beat a 400hp less taycan. BMW/Porsche design and handling is on another planet. Elon ego got hurt that the tesla performed so bad for sedan standards so he had to use illegal street, only track tires. He lies about teslas 0-60 times by using rollout. The model 3 performance says 3.1 but it actually does 3.4 . The plaid is supposed to be under 2 sec but does 2.3 . Tesla also recieved a lawsuit this month for lying about their range estimates of their cars. 😮

[@piccalillipit9211]

I just came to the comments to say the same, a perfect scale drawing.

[@LordStarbeard]

You see, a detail you missed is when the cybertruck reached 88 miles per hour, it jumped in time, completing the drag race ahead of the porshe, quite simple, really.

[@fireblast2049]

Seeing as it’s the truck version of a dmc 12

[@knudback]

According to Jason’s own calculations the cyber truck is traveling at 88 miles per hour at the 1/8 miles mark ( 8:57 ). Any 80s kid can tell what happens next. The cyber truck travels back in time and beats the Porsche by 3 minutes. Coincidence that the Cyber truck has the same color as a DeLorean? I don’t think so.

[@nikostalk5730]

new owners also talking about Cybertrucks catch fire, so... WE FOUND A REASON!

[@Zairn12345]

GREAT SCOTT

[@pedtrog6443]

Well you don't build your vehicle out of stainless steel unless you want it to look like a refrigerator or an old urinal

[@dustykh]

The cybertruck doesn't even have a flux capacitor, and the battery surely can't hold 1.21 jigowatts

[@davidgray8089]

@@dustykh That we know of, buddy.

[@cromefire_]

It's impressive that people can actually calculate with feet and miles. It just looks like just guessing random numbers out of thin air to me 😂

[@griffinosborn1490]

Someone didn’t pay attention in 6th grade

[@larsandersson5974]

Same

[@nikolatasev4948]

@@griffinosborn1490 We definitely did not learn about calculating in feet and miles. Metric system FTW!

[@stimmits4202]

@@griffinosborn1490 typical american, thinking there is no rest of the world...

[@cromefire_]

@@griffinosborn1490 Yeah you don't lean the imperial system in Europe, you just don't need it. If I do get anything in imperial, I just convert it to metric immediately (either rule of thumb if it's inches or Google if it's anything else) and then I can work with it.

[@edofloat4996]

The car is definitely the Carrera T with the manual transmission, you can see the front lip indicating the car is SPASM, and the black brake calipers with smaller rotors which come only with Carrera and Carrera T. The gray mirrors and Titanium color wheels only come on Carrera T.

[@pingkuo7355]

This is what I came here for. As I was watching the video I thought "Some Porsche guy will point out all the exact details to ID the 911 in 5 seconds"

[@coreytheecorey4056]

your the man

[@Floh-yf7yz]

Also the carrera t is the slowest 911 you can get.

[@fundip2010]

can see the shifts too during the video of the run

[@natecollins9331]

And that 911 Carrera T only produced 380 horses. Yeah, I don't know anymore, lol ...

[@Dubz0408]

Thank you for drawing the Cyber truck as a Dorito and the Porcshe as a Beetle! This needed to be done!

[@Zodroo_Tint]

It's a triangle. You are an american aren't you?

[@Dubz0408]

@@Zodroo_Tint What shape do doritos come in? Youre uneducated arent you?

[@chestonjones5128]

My favorite part is absolutely the drawings of each vehicle 🤣🤣

[@EngineeringExplained]

I don't take sides, I just draw things how they look and leave it at that!

[@chestonjones5128]

@@EngineeringExplained hahaha love it.

[@Mr_Hustles]

@@EngineeringExplainedas a fan of all variants of squished and stretched VW beetles I enjoyed this very much. 😂

[@7stiano123]

Clarkson would be very pleased

[@richardjones38]

Tesla should employ Jason as an industrial designer. His triangle and two circles look better than the real thing.

[@InGovWeMistrust]

The cyber truck drawn as a triangle and the 911 drawn as a beetle are just the perfect touch

[@Pr3Va1L]

Agreed. It's the subtle shade that gets me lmao

[@mintchevvv1834]

Way to copy top comments

[@jimmyzhao2673]

ikr. He could have at least added a whale tail to the 911.

[@sortsnakeksperiment]

@@mintchevvv1834 I saw the beetle and the triangle right away. I however didn't comment but I'm not surprised that more than one would comment on this. Do you read all comments before you comment on a video to make sure you don't write a comment already made?

[@RiGD01]

🤣

[@RavTokomi]

1/8 mile has a lot more to do with traction and launch control (something EV's usually have a big advantage) than pure power.

[@Pe6ek]

EVs not EV's.

[@silverdarlin]

In an 1/8th of a mile, a MotoGP Motorbike is actually quicker than a Formula 1 car, simply because the bike has TC while the car doesn't

[@megsman4749]

But still… it lost at 1/8

[@jason401.]

​@@Pe6ekretired English teacher can't get enough

[@troyb3659]

whats the s stand for? @@Pe6ek

[@NotTheFlag1]

Elons marketing team has no credibility imo

[@alessiogiovannoli1913]

He is the marketing team, so you're right

[@SocksAndPuppets]

If you watch the zoomed out video closely, they cut it off about halfway between the 1/8th mile and the 1/4 mile mark - the porsche is catching up and it looks like they cut it just before it passes the cybertruck - which suggests your calculations are about right. You even see the porsche *braking* in the last moments of the clip. To me this suggests they ran several attempts, and stopped each of them when the porsche passed the cybertruck, and this is the "best" comparison they managed. That might explain why the cybertruck beats the porsche to the 1/8th mile mark in their clip despite being slower on paper, the driver of the porsche had some bad shifts and was a little slow in that run.

[@Have.An.AmicoDay]

even if the Cyber 'with the tow' is neck and neck with just the car alone at the 1/8 mile mark, that is still heck of an impressive feat.

[@AFox-qc4kh]

​@@Have.An.AmicoDayIt is, but is doesn't change the fact that tesla is obviously lying. Can't stand that company anymore.

[@caifasvaca9451]

@@Have.An.AmicoDaysure. That doesn’t make lying about it being even bigger any better. Making 100k a year is great - what would you think about that Someone if they told everybody they made 300k?

[@MyRegardsToTheDodo]

@@Have.An.AmicoDay Not really, if you understand how EVs work. EVs will always be faster at the start when compared to gasoline engine cars.

[@rdizzy1]

It was meant to be 1/8th mile races to begin with.

[@DonLee1980]

I knew it was BS immediately because the Cybertruck does the 1/4 mile in 11.0s WITH 1ft roll out. The base 911 does the 1/4 mile in 11.7s without rollout and 11.5s with rollout. There was absolutely NO way that the cybertruck could beat the 911 while towing an extra 5000lbs. However, I did NOT notice it was 1/8th mile. That was very tricky of them.

[@EngineeringExplained]

I think rollout is dumb for 0-60, because zero is in the title. For 1/4 mile times, this is timed on drag strips, and the recording begins when the stage light goes out, so technically all of them are with rollout (including Porsche's 11.5 1/4 mile time). Porsche is very conservative with performance metrics (respect!) and says the base 911 is a 12.2 in the 1/4, but obviously CaD beat this easily.

[@patmanrick]

Base 911 doesn't run an 11.5 does it?!

[@IReahpZz]

@@EngineeringExplainedit’s quoted at 0-60 with no rollout in 2.6 . This doesn’t disregard that it’s a pickup truck smoking a Porsche

[@markclinton2425]

Porsche website: The base 911 is listed at 12.4 on the 1/4 mile and the Carrera T manual is 12.7.

[@G82Watts]

​@@markclinton2425porsche and bmw HEAVILY understate their cars 0-60 times and HP numbers. While tesla overstates their numbers. Common knowledge if u actually watch reviews. For instance the bmw m3 is listed at 3.6 sec 0-60 but does 2.9-3.1 in real life. The model s performance is listed as 3.1. But does 3.4 - 3.6 depending on battery it gets even worse.

[@nicholassmith7048]

A major contribution the Cybertruck has made to automobiledom is that is has enabled people like me who can't draw for crap the ability to accurately draw a real vehicle.

[@TalesOfWar]

I'm pretty sure that's how Elon designed it. Pencil, ruler. "Make this real" *hands napkin*

[@thundervallie]

It's only made two contributions. One, that. Two, it makes all other ugly vehicles look good.

[@eudofia]

The question that should be asked is: Did the guy driving the 911 actually floored the gas pedal? The only way to prove would be an independent entity recreating the whole experiment. Tesla's intention was to beat a 911, so they could have intentionally driven the 911 slower. IMO And, by the way, who cares. I'll still go for a 911 if I had a bucket load of cash. I'll leave hauling and towing to real trucks like: F-150, Silverado, Rams and Tundra.

[@DPCcars]

Jason's ability to explain complex engineering with a sharpie and some humor is next level! 🚀

[@dustindouglas3238]

Not really. He purposefully ignored the fact that towing truck inertia at 88mph crossing the 1/8th mile mark would cause a difference in timing added for the second 1/8th. Purposefully ignored an obvious data point to just barely disprove the marketing, which DOES NOT disprove the marketing. This is a farce.

[@gregoryf9299]

Purposefully? Barely disprove? Dude, take a chill… It’s solid calcs. Show the calcs how inertia (mass) has an effect on the 2nd 1/8…

[@dustindouglas3238]

@gregoryf9299 I don't need to show anything. Anyone with a basic understanding of physics understands that at 88mpg the timing difference between the truck and towing trucks would not be the same for each 1/8th of a mile, making the entire purpose and title of the video clickbait.

[@Ninja76100]

@@dustindouglas3238you must be graduate from Trump university school of physics lol😂

[@dustindouglas3238]

@@Ninja76100 then you must be a litigator from Change-the-subject-because-I-have-no-arguement Elementary

[@Marbind]

"Our simulations showed the full 1/4 mi race would be close but with the same net result, so no need to risk it." I won so many fights in my mind that I'm undefeated.

[@howard5992]

Also - the trailer wasn't rated for speeds over 80 mph so the entire exercise was near impossible

[@LovelyBassGuitar-uw2yc]

@@howard5992 So the marketing department says....

[@sqmotorsports9230]

There's an old saying that we don't race 'em on paper...

[@JCintheBCC]

@@howard5992 I wondered about this when reading Wes' comment. You're a multi-billion dollar company launching one of the most-hyped vehicles of all time with a drag race marketing stunt... and you look at the stock trailer tires and just say, "oh, that's too much work to change out."

[@howard5992]

@@JCintheBCC- they should have done a 100 yard sprint and left it at that. LOL

[@MrNemo721]

Misleading claims from Tesla and/or Elon? Truly shocking!

[@zeus866]

Omg tesla never lies😂😂😂😂

[@Schmittface]

I know, I am shocked. Paragon of virtue Elon lying through his teeth to make a buck?? No, couldn't be!

[@juzoli]

They always had misleading claims, but they were the best nevertheless. Model S was a bit behind the claims, but still way ahead of competitors, so I didn’t care. But false claims while not even being faster than the competitors is just embarrassing.

[@jake2772]

lol 🤡

[@jptrainor]

Full self towing available next year for the Cyber truck. Promise. You will be able drive it work then send it out on its own to make money doing repos all day. It pays for itself. And it will survive being shot at while on the repo missions. Wuhoo!

[@Tabatino]

tesla's main book: How to Lie with Statistics by Darrell Huff

[@davidvenegasramirez6001]

Let's all take a moment to appreciate that Jason is an absolute unit. He's gotta weigh at least 260 😂

[@shirolee]

Don't worry, engineering can explain that lol.

[@kadmow]

- Identify as one likes - as EM identifies truth as he tells it... ha ha..

[@DericO-rz3be]

divided by 2 🙂

[@H.S.H.M.]

I'm so glad Engineering Explained made a video on this. I'm local & have been to Sacramento Raceway many times & instantly noticed it cut off where the bleachers are. I commented about this on the original Tesla vid & got flamed to oblivion by every single Tesla fanboy, calling me a hater, a gas lover or that its because I can't afford a Cybertruck 😂

[@classydave75]

Oh it's even worse than that. They aren't fanboys anymore, they are full on Musk cult members. Much, much worse. Same crowd as with SpaceX... Completely delusional. And don't worry, they can't afford it either. Or they will buy it and just put themselves in an even more dire economic situation, by putting up a loan for it, just to di@k ride their favorite capitalist daddy Musk. And of course, to join the 85% of Americans only using their truck for short travels and getting groceries... As well as being in possession of a literal mini tank, with a stainless steel body that is going to be extremely efficient at cracking open children and adults skulls on the sidewalks... Notice also how they only refer to him as Elon, as if they entertain a sort of weird, insane para social relationship with him, via social media... Freaks.

[@GheGho]

Tesla people are insufferable.

[@alisonwilson9749]

Remember, 'Never try to teach a pig to sing, it wastes your time and it annoys the pig.'

[@LamantinoElettronico]

The art you made of the Cybertruck and the 911 was hilarious, honestly your drawing skills are underappreciated

[@leborde]

"1/4 mile is the most important metric" Thank you Jason :)

[@KarenTondro]

The imperial that’s the most important metric, uh huh

[@willow_1]

You forgot to take into account that the CT can travel through time - just like other naked stainless steel bodied cars when they cross 88mph leaving behind a streak of fire

[@Efiertieh]

Ah yes LOL

[@rhabeldibabeldi6812]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@hifijohn]

You need 1.21 gigawatts of power for that.

[@LRM12o8]

That's the only way it can legit beat the 911 😁👍

[@OntarioTrafficMan]

My car can travel through time too. Every time I drive somewhere I arrive there in the future

[@NeoIsrafil]

The real irony is that this math is a best case scenario, a very unrealistic best, because realistically as you approach the top speed of the cybertruck, while towing, it gets exponentially harder to increase your speed due to friction, wind resistance, and the torque curve of the vehicle, which means its actual towing quartermile time is probably more like 16 seconds. Remember too that theres a LOT more wind resistance with a big old trailer and a porche on it too, so that exponential increase in drag is gonna be pretty brutal.

[@jermygod]

The real irony is that... who TF even cares how fast a car accelerates, especially a “truck". it has to accelerate enough to overtake, that's all.

[@LRM12o8]

Por che? What the hell is a porche? I understand it's difficult for you guys to pronounce Porsche, but PLEASE at least spell it correctly... 🙄

[@CM-vv8cv]

@@LRM12o8 Oh my god, it's a typo.. grow up.

[@gost]

Internal combustion cars deliver maximum power at high RPMs. You can watch for drug racing events and you can find out that Tesla wins during the start and looses while finishing. Taking into account how close Cybertruck was to Porsche, it is 99% probability that the second one actually won the race.

[@freddoflintstono9321]

By the looks of it and borrowing from Jeremy Clarkson, the cybertruck has the aerodynamics of a cathedral..

[@PorscheRacer14]

I love how detailed you can get with a sharpie marker and get all the nuanced detail of the cybertruck in your drawing.

[@larrytemen4789]

In the quarter mile, every tenth you pick up in the 60ft you gain 2 tenths out the back door. That’s why when test and tuning for certain times, you can literally set the board to show the 60ft time and figure out if you should kill the run right after or actually stay in it till the end.

[@Jax2777]

I think the craziest part is that tesla believed people wouldn't analyze this. In order for the CT to match a vehicle while towing it, anyone who's even done a drag race with their friends would know that even if you'll need some crazy power and grip to not only match a much lighter vehicle, but you'd also need someone sleeping on the launch to get the extra weight the CT is towing to negate the dead weight.

[@Khan.WrathOf]

The people fawning over the cybertruck are not car enthusiasts. They're branding enthusiasts.

[@reagank.2268]

I don’t think Tesla themselves called it a quarter, while it is misleading. And I feel like Elon is so out of touch with Tesla lately that maybe he didn’t know. I’m going to get attacked for suggesting this though..

[@JaydenET]

CT is a terrible acronym to use when comparing a CyberTruck and a Carrera T

[@tessierrr]

tesla fan boys swallow anything given to them 😂

[@jeffhowden9326]

@@Khan.WrathOfThat brand is helmed by Musk who's notoriously bad at branding. They're not "branding enthusiasts". They're "brand enthusiasts" and unskeptically gobble whatever Musk tosses at them. You know, kinda like a cult.

[@herbertkraft7379]

But have you considered: The Porsche Driver is paid by Tesla and knows how to lift ;)

[@JL-by6ce]

I thought about that too. But any car guy working for any company would put integrity behind the wheel just for the cars involved. The company will do the spin

[@RobManser77]

And you’re proven correct by Jason’s post above. The 911 is actually faster.

[@MyRealName]

Obvious as day.

[@mrmohr2]

Or simply shift slower on every shift! I had an old Taurus SHO 5 speed that literally took 3/4 sec to shift without grinding the gears. The engine was fantastic, but the transmission held it back on drag races.

[@nothingsurprisesmeanymore]

​@@JL-by6ceerr no they would do as the company who pays them wants them to do. They would just drive that Porsche lazily

[@ricardojordao6261]

Everything about this video is just great! The car drawings, the not-so-funny jokes, the math and, of course, the stab at misleading marketing stunts! Thanks Jason!

[@dj_laundry_list]

The funny jokes were good, too

[@dmitrisafonov6976]

The drawing of the glorified beetle is absolutely hilarious.

[@JTSeneca]

Why not just try the reality: put ur ass in a 911 and feel ur… 911 after loosing for a cybertruck 😅

[@veekay_t]

​@@JTSenecaspoken like a tesla fanboy with room temperature iq

[@routybouty]

@@veekay_tspoken like a true Porsche soyboy

[@Admiral_General_Aladeen_1]

3:30 finally a english speaking person, who can say porsche correct.😳😳

[@joshuadudley7111]

What you’re missing is that when it crosses the 1/8 mile and hits 88mph, that’s when the flux capacitor kicks in and it actually finishes the 1/4 before it started! 😜

[@jamarsac]

I wonder what the Mr Fusion upgrade would cost. That should help with range.

[@olliehopnoodle4628]

@@jamarsac Well, it is made out of stainless steel. Doc: "The way I see it, if you're going to build a time machine into a car, why not do it with some style? Besides, the stainless steel construction made the flux disperal..."

[@michaelp4122]

This made me laugh, well done sir, well done.

[@mikebalentine]

Had the same thought but with “Great Scott!”

[@guiox]

Great Scott!

[@rogerj412]

I don't think Elon misspoke. I believe he knew exactly what he was doing.

[@SuperDirk1965]

Have you ever known the man opening his mouth without a lie coming out?

[@cp4512]

Yep, just like his massively overstating the range of all his cars! 😂

[@Ryan-093]

elongated muskrat is a pathological liar

[@chrisschneiders6734]

Yes, it's not like his a pathological liar, but definitely loose with the truth..didn't get to be where he is without telling quite few lies.

[@chrisschneiders6734]

​@SuperDirk1965 don't know what's wrong with the world when you have to say mispoke rather than lied. He lied so his a conman. SIMPLE as that.

[@tesla_tap]

Flaw #4 - The tires. The press cars are normally equipped with optional tires that deliver the best performance (so it looks great in reviews). Tesla likely bought the cheapest 911 with stock tires that are not going to perform nearly as well.

[@mrmariusi]

CT was also equipped with stock tires, so what's your point?

[@StuermischeTage]

Haha Omg, a tesla employee responded to the video stating that the tires they used on the trailer were only rated for 80 mp/h, so they didn't bother running the whole quartermile, and instead simulated the remaining distance. Apparently they had safety concerns pulling the trailer any faster.

[@ChrisErwood]

Porsche deliver their cars with the same tyres the press cars use. It's more likely that the Porsche driver just lifted or short shifted to avoid overtaking before the 1/8th mile.

[@DemonReign23]

"Our over $600,000,000,000 company couldn't afford tires, so we lied instead." Shout out to that engineer for tarnishing their career with total BS to benefit their corporate overlord's obvious lie. That shows real dedication. @@StuermischeTage

[@tesla_tap]

@@mrmariusi - The Motortrend/Car & Driver likely did not use stock tires, and got better times because it. This was not considered in the analysis and if true, likely means there was no cheating, but a flawed analysis based off inaccurate 0-60 times for the car Tesla used.

[@Lukesharkboy]

Never trust a video of a certain brand's car winning, if the video is posted by that same brand itself.

[@wjoseph-rx9mj]

That’s exactly what I wanted, a third party reviewer just like you…. I’m not a math type of guy but, your explanations are very helpful, useful and understandable..

[@julianomse]

At 88 mph the cybertruck, made of stainless steel, activated its flux capacitor, accelerated and went back to the past exactly 1.2 seconds, ending the quarter mile before the 911. The video stops because it would show the original cybertruck, not the one that travelled trough time. If you have any questions or comments, just call Dr. Emmet L. Brown

[@Jiewicz]

came down for this 😂

[@KznnyL]

Haha!

[@joaomatias]

I'm only here for this comment! Great Scott!

[@chrisswallow5038]

Wouldn’t it have to go into the future?

[@dfheezy]

When will then be now?

[@terrancep.5475]

The amount of work that he put into this video may me subscribe.

[@EngineeringExplained]

Thanks for subscribing!

[@turnoff7572]

​@@sunrosecyeah

[@awechitect]

Mee too

[@georgyzhukov6409]

the tesla hating is real

[@Zajebancije]

Great video, thanks! Using engineering knowledge against plain hype 💪

[@joshassad4664]

"this is engineering explained, where we use math to find definitive answers to questions nobody really cares about" . I lol'd. Happy to see you having fun and not taking this too seriously. But I do also appreciate you calling out false advertising. Great video!

[@Hellsatanx]

as someone who grew up in a country with advertising laws it blew my mind and keeps blowing my mind that american companies can just straight up lie in commercials

[@Stale_Kracker]

Jeep used to hire my dads construction company to build "terrain" like obstacles in trails etc back from 1998 to 2005 and they would hook a jeep to a cable and drag it over obstacles then edit out the cables and drag lines😂

[@knotgiven2u84]

Hence the phrase.. buyer beware.

[@hugh_jasso]

Those giant companies have giant money invested in government. Most American politicians become millionaires from that giant money and don't want to stop that dirty income.

[@Dr.SHERIFF]

it’s merica dude

[@Rick-the-Swift]

Please have the dignity to name your own country before making degrading statements about another's. Let me guess, you are from either Canada or Russia?

[@ConeOfArc]

I was extremely skeptical of the "drag race" video when it released so thank you for breaking it down to show why I had that sneaking suspicion it wasn't showing the reality between the two vehicles.

[@Leo_Goes_PewPew]

Tonk guy?!!!

[@DJ_POOP_IT_OUT_FEAT_LIL_WiiWii]

The truck is very cool but lets not forget the marketing disaster surrounding it. Bullet proof windows? Faster than a Porsche.

[@monkeybudge]

@@DJ_POOP_IT_OUT_FEAT_LIL_WiiWii I know it’s a subjective issue, but “very cool”? I think it’s so bloody hideous. Very interested to see how they hold up after a year or two as well. I think they’re going to have so many issues.

[@robertocarslos292]

Damn, your suspicions were correct. Turns out a cyber truck (even though it’s faster then the Porsche by itself 😂) is slower by 0.1s while towing a Porsche.

[@monkeybudge]

@@robertocarslos292 Doesn’t sound as good for the marketing though, does it

[@ravenvalentine4919]

you gotta love how happy thunderfoot is being the first to call this BS out nearly 5 years ago

[@WhatUlookinAtbruv]

You also have to factor in their instantaneous accelerations dropping at different rates as they advance to the end of quater mile. You can notice the 911 picking up just at the end of the 1/8th mile

[@TheThursty100]

Is the 911 picking up or is the cyber truck slowing down, because they only ever planned to go the 1/8th mile so the race is over?

[@LouieGrind]

To me it looks like they kind of even out at the end when it comes to speed but then the CT hits the breaks after 1/8.

[@LovelyBassGuitar-uw2yc]

The porsche would hit its stride past the 8th easily.

[@americanosbadassius9292]

6'6, 250 pds, Benching 500 plus ... Nice 😂

[@dan725]

I LOVE the drawings for the 911 and the cybertruck LOL! This video was just awesome! Breaking down the math like this makes math so approachable, so much so that all your videos have been absolutely indispensable in my household to create wonder and “ohhhhhh that’s what math is for!” moments with the little ones! THANK YOU thank you!!

[@subzerohf]

You’re a man of integrity. You praise and criticize based on facts and science. It’s a delight to watch your videos.

[@TheRealRCSparks]

I love this channel so much :)

[@Binford2500]

Love the white board drawing of the Tesla (triangle) and Porsche (beetle).

[@EngineeringExplained]

I'm pretty confident that's a 911...

[@DeluxeR71]

A subtle burn on both...🤣

[@burnetthopkins9583]

@@EngineeringExplained , I suspect Ferdinand would have agreed.

[@mysteryshrimp]

I can't believe that you walked right past that electric stainless steel car going 88 miles an hour without a Back to the Future reference.

[@rsmac11]

THANK YOU! That's what I'm sayin'. lol

[@surronzak8154]

Way to focus on ICE winning a battle agaisnt tesla Xp despite loosing the war at the end

[@eric_d]

That was my first thought, and I commented before I saw your comment.

[@paulfaganpianist]

'so it's travelling at 88mph' *stops video and pulls out Back To The Future on Blu-ray

[@kseries1981]

Never underestimate an engineer's passion for accuracy.

[@Φλωρος-Θωμασου-Ξ5Ξ]

it you mean his drawings of cars sideviews, i agree!

[@BrandEver117]

I appreciate the time you took to draw accurate, to-scale representations of the two vehicles

[@jimdon7377]

it's misleading, not accurate

[@TheWeavingBagel]

@@jimdon7377 How?

[@DesignRhythm]

Awesome work, man. Yeah, the very fact they didn't do it live or have an uninterrupted view of the whole test made me think something was up.

[@zbyszanna]

There are uninterrupted videos of the whole thing and this was a promotional video, one of many they showed at the event and then later on on their youtube/x channel. It wasn't supposed to be super scientific test, nobody tracks times of a race between a car and another car towing that first car. It's just a fun video.

[@BronerBeast]

No one is acknowledging the elephant in the room. The 911 doesnt have to actually drive full speed. They can drive it slower, to make sure the Tesla wins.

[@ramrod9556]

@@BronerBeast It sure looked like the 911 was easing off the gas the last eighty feet.

[@DesignRhythm]

@zbyszanna I disagree. If you're trying to take the piss out of one of the greatest sports cars & companies in automotive history (Porsche), you better be serious. When they catch u lying & manipulating the data.. you can't hide behind, "It was just for fun." I'm getting Bernie Madoff vibes.

[@hobo1704]

​@@DesignRhythm exactly. It's just the typical Tesla fanboy delusional thinking. They always have an answer to suit the argument. They fail to comprehend Elon is just a massive conman.

[@SmartWentCrazy]

This breakdown was so fun, thank you!

[@lgunderso2117]

Love the video, Jason. Even the realistic number at the end was a best case scenario- aero losses, battery voltage sag, and the inherent motor properties in field weakening/lower power at the higher speeds means the Tesla’s second eighth under towing would have been worse than 4.59. I’m also sad you didn’t show Jason Camissa’s model X towing a 4C vs 4C, where the Tesla actually was faster. Tesla stole the idea from him, then couldn’t do it lol.

[@truantray]

Camissa used a 4C because it's one of the lightest cars there is.

[@annaczgli2983]

Your Tesla debunk videos have always been my favorite - a nice example of math & engineering calling out BS marketing. ❤

[@Easore]

Yeah. You should also check out his Tesla Semi videos, where he confirms the marketing was right.

[@randomlywild3437]

@@EasoreRight about what? The Tesla semi still isn't in production and regularly breaks down hauling cases of potato chips. It's just more vaporware from Musk, like FSD.

[@Easore]

@@randomlywild3437 Then you dont know a thing and should inform yourself first before pasting bs

[@brianp5244]

Agreed!! Perfect example of BS marketing explained.

[@studentdebil1720]

You can clearly see that it was a manual porsche, the Tesla was faster for the first 1-2s, but the Porsche soon started overtaking it. It slowed its acceleration though for almost a second (you can see that at 5:36). If it was an automatic dual-clutch transmission it would have won even an 8th mile race.

[@ChrisErwood]

I strongly suspect that the Porsche driver (as a Tesla employee) lifted or short shifted to avoid overtaking the CT. Would also explain why it was nearly half a second down on the time R&T set with the same car.

[@MichaelCampbell01]

That's literally mentioned in the video.

[@studentdebil1720]

@@MichaelCampbell01 That's true, I've wrote this comment before I was on that moment in the video and then forgot about it

[@GvMainberg]

Awesome video and investigation! This earns my immediate subscription! 🙂

[@NatureSkyViews]

I watched the Cybertruck event live and my first thought was there is no way it can beat a 911 towing a 911. People automatically jump to tell me "you're hating on Tesla" I'm not. Anyone can be wrong and everyone deserves criticism. Thanks for the video (and yes, the Cybertruck is really cool and really fast)

[@ImNotHere4750]

Exactly my thoughts

[@SomeGuy-lw2po]

Personally if I was accused of hating on Tesla, I'd correct them and say I'm hating on Elon Musk.

[@kwantoon]

I knew it was a BS marketing gimmick the second I seen it.

[@wdf70]

I don't understand why get defensive when people tell you that you're "hating on tesla." it's an overpriced company that's held aloft by a snake oil salesman selling "totally awesome future project" to our government officials to keep actual good public projects from being made so Musk can keep the lights on.

[@rdizzy1]

Well, it did beat it in an 1/8th mile.

[@jmi967]

For the last 5-ish years my knee-jerk reaction to Elon Musk saying something is to immediately assume he’s lying and go on about my day.

[@jjohnson796]

WELL SAID!!! 😂😂

[@rwsavory]

And you would be correct every time.

[@737smartin]

I'm sad for you. You're missing out on a lot of fun and lucrative breakthroughs.

[@michelangelobuonarroti916]

@@737smartin Fun and lucrative breakthroughs as well as a lot of lying by Elon can both be true, and seem to me to be.

[@hersheykiss9500]

yeah the rocket boosters landing back on earth is a trick; they just play the launch in reverse. elon is a sneaky fraud!

[@jsm99]

The best part of this video is the 911 drawn as a beetle and the cybertruck as a triangle. Beautiful old school Top Gear Easter Egg.

[@callmebigpapa]

How about just a fair race, Cybertruck vs 911 winners gets a pizza.

[@eedoamitay3341]

The really weird thing is, they could have just said it can beat the 911 in that trim, and that would STILL be very impressive for a truck and is more than enough to even impress the regular car folks. But they just had to take it too far and this happens. edit: also 12.8 secs 1/4 mile time is still very impressive while towing a 911, like damn lol

[@baspeters89able]

The calculation was generous. It was based on the assumption that it would not lose more speed compared to a cyber truck without a tow in the second half of the quarter mile, which is off course not realistic.

[@criticalevent]

The problem is Elon and his big mouth. He said it, so they needed to make it happen.

[@barrygillis]

@@criticalevent Elon was lying, but you know the cult will always defend the lie, and when they cant, they will shift the goalpost, and in the end "but lying is good actually!"

[@brandonhoffman4712]

We're comparing trucks to porches. Impressive is in the rear view mirror @ this point. My concern is more for how crazy people drive with all this power. I feel like the government needs to limit cars. Go race on race tracks people, don't make the morning commute insane.

[@chewthegum]

Elon probably just misspoke tbh

[@alfieakaronaldog]

The Cybertriangle and 911 Beatle was pure genius 😂😂😂

[@DigitalBathInAZ]

And you typing "Beatle" instead of the correct "Beetle" is also pure genius! I wonder which Beatle. Lennon? McCartney? Probably Harrison and likely not Starr.

[@guano1274]

In the original video you also see how fast the 911 is gaining on the cybertruck on the last meters. Just a bit more runway and it would have passed. Still pretty impressive.

[@TassieLorenzo]

"Still pretty impressive." I guess, but why not do the stunt faithfully with a PDK 911 Carrera, knowing that most 911 sales as PDKs?

[@pyRoy6]

Elon: "I ALMOST had you!"

[@FixingWithFriends]

He should have just picked a slower 'fast' car.

[@guano1274]

@@TassieLorenzo Yeah, or just overall compare comparable cars. They used the top of the line Cybertruck and the baseline Porsche. Do top of the line against top of the line (Porsche Turbo S) and even without the trailer the Porsche would win, even so it is like 200HP low on power...

[@raybr1727]

Very interesting info…..I didn’t know you could BP 500. That’s 226kg for a 113kg man….amazing how the math also works out to 2X.

[@nephetula]

From my point of view, it's almost enough to be within the realm of possibility. And even if it's not, it's still damned impressive, given we don't know the prep and specifics: How much fuel was in each Porsche? What were the tire pressures and makes on both vehicles (and the trailer)? Was this a steel or aluminum trailer? What were the prevailing winds? What was the altitude and temperature of the test area? Keep in mind that even the driver's weight is a meaningful variable in a vehicle the size of a Porsche, but not so much in the case of the far heavier Cybertruck+trailer. (In an ordinary car, cutting the total weight by 100 lbs. is roughly equivalent to adding 10 hp.)

[@rogerfroud300]

The fact that you have to look at any of these marginal parameters tells how close it is. This is not so much how great the Cybertruck is, as how poor ICE vehicles are.

[@herrschaftg35]

@@rogerfroud300 : Tesla can't even complete a single session at a road course because of their batteries overheating. The leaderboards of thousand of tracks are dominated by ICE vehicles. Clearly you have no clue as to what you are talking about.

[@frederickthesquirrel]

This is basically self-sabotage. When they lie about some stunts, it makes everyone doubt the other impressive feats the truck can actually do

[@lolilollolilol7773]

They infamously lied about self-driving when they released that video where the car wasn't self driving at all.

[@Papinak2]

You mean like they did tug-of war with an RWD ford?

[@Dennis19901]

@@lolilollolilol7773 Tbf Musk lies about pretty much everything he dips his toes in. Probably because he knows most of those ideas are retarded, and it's just a good way to get gullible fools to throw money at it, making him more in return without ever having to do anything,.

[@scubasteve6175]

Why do companies even try this in the information age

[@thewurstman1100]

@@scubasteve6175 So we talk about their new product?

[@Sp4mMe]

The most magic thing about this stunt is that it proves the efficiency of TRAINS.

[@chaitanyarao5546]

Trains Rule!

[@Incommensurabilities]

How does it do that? Genuinely curious, as I like trains but I don't see the connection to efficiency in this video

[@mitchelljack1590]

ARE YOU NOT INTO TRAINS!

[@revoblam7975]

@@Incommensurabilities mostly for the towing bit I presume, I'm not in the logic myself but I vouch trains are better than evs everywhere, or even better, EV trains

[@Sp4mMe]

@@Incommensurabilities What's a car with a trailer but a 1-wagon-road-train ... ? Trains just further improve on the concept ;) Obviously the comment isn't entirely serious, but in the context of Tesla I found it amusing enough.

[@SF_Native]

Absolutely brilliant breakdown. Also great observation of the jerking of the car due to manual gear shifting vs the smooth, seamless transitions with a PDK! Porsche's slowest 911 does the 1/4 mile in 12.2. lol! Imagine if Elon tried this against a 991 GT2 RS. It does it in very low 10s.

[@mrmohr2]

Wait! You're calling on a Porsche 991 GT2 RS to compare to a pickup truck? Yes, Elon needs to apologize to both Porsche and the public... But seriously! That truck is fast! I agree with Jason, the truth is important! And the truth is, that the truck towing the slowest 911 is slightly slower than that same 911 by itself. And maybe your point is that 991 GT2 RS would beat the truck without a trailer. But still! That is comparing a $290,000 near racecar to a pickup truck in a drag race! That is actually more embarrassing!

[@SF_Native]

@@mrmohr2 my point is he said a “Porsche 911” right? He himself said his “pickup truck” is faster. A GT2 RS is still a Porsche 911. Also what’s the cost have to do with anything? We’re going model vs model yeah? Sounds like you own a Cybertruck 😂

[@mrmohr2]

I see your point. They chose the slowest, you chose the fastest.

[@roarbahamut9866]

@@mrmohr2 The problem is, that even the *slowest* 911 wouldnt lose in this specific race. Elon is straight up lying thru his teeth, to his cult like followers.

[@MrHaggyy]

@mrmohr2 a racecar is not a drag-racecar. First gear of the 911 is made to keep oilpressure high in the pitlane. You don't expect a Porsche to drop below 50-60mph at any time. Porsche also makes electric vehicles, and people tune 911 to go the quater mile in sub 10sec ...

[@TheTboi82]

”…to questions nobody really cares about.” Subscribed.

[@daviddempsey7961]

I absolutely love how a 911 is just an elongated beetle

[@Southghost5997]

It's very short. More of a squashed bug😂

[@dielaughing73]

Always has been

[@07wrxtr1]

Better than your prius

[@pixsled]

Well that's what it originated from

[@chpgmr1372]

And the detail of the beetle vs just a triangle for the cybertruck

[@blerst7066]

I love how you drew the Cybertruck as a triangle and the 911 as a VW Beetle.

[@brandonhoffman4712]

And then there's the pyramid towing the beetle! ROFL 🤣

[@klauszinser]

Re Porsche and VW Beetle, keep in mind that the Hungarian Bela Barenyi has a big part of the Beetle engineering/design. So Ferdinand Porsche less.

[@TheReykjavik]

So it seems that it can sometimes do an 1/8th mile while towing the Porsche while towing than the Porsche, which is plenty impressive and demonstrates an actually fairly important aspect of a truck, being able to get from a stop to highway speeds quickly while towing a significant load is important for anyone using a truck for actual truck stuff. But they go on to completely undermine the point with dishonesty.

[@OutOfNameIdeas2]

Lol exactly. I too like my utility car being able to accelerate fast. So much so I'm willing to burn 100x the money

[@benwu7980]

Sadly, that's Musk's main brand. Instead of just going with the engineering that's done, he always has to embellish on the facts.

[@JeighNeither]

Read the update post. It can't actually beat it, it's all hogwash. The 1/8 mile time from Motortrend for that Porsche is 8 seconds at 93.1mph. The Cybertruck's own numbers show it can't achieve that 1/8 time.

[@TheReykjavik]

Read my comment, if you can't comprehend the words "can sometimes", go back to elementary school.@@JeighNeither

[@DanielXavierDosReis]

I love how he said "two statments" while raised three fingers at 1:33

[@Jedex96]

The triangle with wheels is an impressively accurate rappresentation of the Cybertruck

[@bakedbeings]

It's a cybertriangle.

[@jacksongennet967]

@@bakedbeingsCyberpolygon

[@ColbyAzimuth]

It should not be a symmetric triangle tho. This ain't no Spongebob, bro.

[@bakedbeings]

@@ColbyAzimuth AsymmetricCyberTrapezium

[@matthewlange8616]

What actually happened is when the Cyber truck hit 88mph at the 1/8 mile it did what stainless steel vehicles apparently do at 88mph and went back in time to 1957.

[@trigganometry168]

Great Scott!

[@TheLargino]

Then forward in time to October 21 2015. Are Emmett Brown and Elon Musk the same person?

[@t3h51d3w1nd3r]

Torretto: "You still owe me an 8 second truck"

[@louiandrews7]

😅😅😅😅😅😅

[@williamcalia2465]

Very impressive calculations. Looking forward to more videos!

[@realazliving]

Yeah. When I worked in the corporate world I often had to meet with the head of marketing. He loved his joke that went, do you know the difference between marketing and lying? When people said no he said neither do I. Most honest thing that guy ever said. He had worked for some pretty big companies that we all know well.

[@YeOldeTraveller]

Marketing is just paid lying.

[@barrygillis]

Even if it generates negative attention by being called out, hey its still attention!

[@rjwz28]

​@@barrygillis yup, carrotface made that point clearer than anybody else ever has

[@junicast_tech]

That's really interesting, thank you. Anyway I really have to say I'm sorry for you guys having to calculate in inches, feet and miles. It's so painful just to only watch this.

[@ricksmith3045]

It is how it is done in the real world. We let you guys use seconds, but relegate you to those nasty meters and kilograms.

[@kobusdowney5291]

​@@ricksmith3045 those nasty kilograms and meters makes sense, which is why it allowed NASA to land people on the moon...

[@jacksmack6956]

@@kobusdowney5291fake.

[@Wolfen_Argent]

@@ricksmith3045in the real world, in science and medicine, they use metric. Ignorance is not a good look.

[@aarondavis8943]

Imperial is superior. There's twelve cubits to a shinbone and 24.5 monkey palms to a certain stick a Mesopotamian peasant once owned. Couldn't get any simpler.

[@zeitgeist888]

Jason I would love to see your engineering take on rear wheel steering as it applies to lane change maneuver like the moose test or in a slalom with limited space on each side of the cones ie within a lane or narrow lane. This would be fitting with the Cybertruck since it too has rear wheel steering.

[@kadmow]

- as in a balanced (positive mode) 4wheel swerve won't overload the front outside wheel - as is the usual case... (Interesting to test out - an RC car with scheduled servo mixing would be fun to play with- ie. is it still possible to roll at any speed - in a near balanced 4 wheel "parallel" (pos) steering - ie counter steering (neg) will increase instability)

[@zeitgeist888]

@@kadmow Good points. It would also be interesting how stability control programing would change too.

[@rkan2]

Cybertruck has steer by wire, so the rear wheels probably don't even steer when going gast enough..

[@matusknives]

What I learned from this video is ... I would rather have the slowest 911 than the fastest Tesla truck.

[@irishRocker1]

Porsche brake lights come on halfway between 1/8 & 1/4 mile. You can also see after the 1/8th mile the porsche starts to gain on the cybertruck and would def have passed by the 1/4.

[@tedmoss]

No, it would not, that is your view, but not if they hadn't stopped because of unsafe tires on the trailer. They are going to have to run this race again with better equipment to satisfy all the naysayers and disbelievers.

[@NicholasNormile]

@@tedmoss nah, Tesla won't do it again, and the fact that they used "unsafe" tires on the trailer is an absolutely astoundingly convenient cop-out for not doing the whole race. Because if Tesla wanted to be transparent, they could have easily thrown a few Benjamins towards better tires on the trailer, and run an actual quarter mile race, which of course the Porsche would have won.

[@thepetrolman4879]

Tesla is insanely shady. The take 'fake it will you make it' to the next level.

[@Mike518Mike]

​@@tedmossdid you wath the viedeo? He explained why the CT defenitly was slower.

[@j29maniac]

Who was paying the driver of the Porsche? I suspect it was Tesla, so he or she might have felt incentivized to shift just a little less efficiently. The fact that Tesla/Elon claimed it was 1/4 mile when it wasn't is disappointing.

[@SsentambiBenard]

Is that a cyber mug 🍺 12:26 I kinda love it 😂😂

[@nigeldepledge3790]

The most important aspect that you missed was that, at 88 mph, the Cybertruck can time-travel . . .

[@ColbyAzimuth]

That's why the batteries produce a minimum of 1.21 gigawatts, for brief periods of . . . time.

[@Monti1999]

It’s Star Wars 7 all over again. They Build a Time Machine again. In a Car again. Made of stainless Steel. Again.

[@jimiknewstubb]

😂😂😂

[@jonessii]

back to a time when other white supremacists were making over engineered, ugly metal garbage that lost to actually efficient mass production

[@h8GW]

Well, it clearly didn't despite its stainless steel being ideal to channel time flux, so truck's all marketing hype.

[@dtom420]

This video should get a LOT more attention than it has! Especially following the widespread realization that in cold weather, EV’s COMPLETELY break down as a viable option for personal transportation.

[@citizendc9]

Car rental agencies have discovered this problem and are looking at moving back to gas engines.