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AWD vs 4WD - What's The Difference?

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What Are The Differences Between AWD & 4WD? Which Is Better?
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What's the difference between AWD and 4WD? I was handed the keys to the brand new BMW M5, which can actually switch between 4WD and 2WD! Nothing all that impressive for any truck drivers out there, but fairly rare in the car world. Generally speaking, 4WD is selectable, and AWD is always active. The video brakes down the unique differences, how they're similar, as well as the advantages of each setup. What do you prefer? AWD or 4WD?
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@tedv8323
@tedv8323 5 жыл бұрын
The spare tire also spins with AWD, simple as that :)
@AlexandarHullRichter
@AlexandarHullRichter 5 жыл бұрын
That's why Subaru keeps the spare hidden!
@iampayne
@iampayne 5 жыл бұрын
😂
@redsquirrelftw
@redsquirrelftw 4 жыл бұрын
Makes sense, acts as a reaction wheel to give the car better stability. :D
@random_bs_goo9154
@random_bs_goo9154 4 жыл бұрын
Its like a gyroscope to help it to stay stable
@sk-pd7sz
@sk-pd7sz 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@d0718
@d0718 5 жыл бұрын
I love this channel and I am so happy to see Jason’s success! I remember him doing videos in his uni bedroom and now he is using an M5 just to hold his whiteboard. Thank you for the content
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 5 жыл бұрын
Hahaha, M5 as a whiteboard stand = success!! 😂😂
@8yn815
@8yn815 5 жыл бұрын
Engineering Explained what’s next, a 911 as a coffee table?
@AnArmoredMarch
@AnArmoredMarch 5 жыл бұрын
Well, to be fair, that's all its really good for
@mariuszanfir2298
@mariuszanfir2298 5 жыл бұрын
@@AnArmoredMarch Totally, bro... Gawd damn useless pesky M5s!!
@mohammadezuddinmohdjohari5763
@mohammadezuddinmohdjohari5763 5 жыл бұрын
Indeed,he's whiteboard stand getting bigger & expensive
@TheWeakLink101
@TheWeakLink101 5 жыл бұрын
Professional KZbinr and still uses whiteboards for graphics, I love it! Keep things real man!
@clayz1
@clayz1 5 жыл бұрын
He saves them. He filled his basement and is working on the attic.
@luizhenriquepaes8991
@luizhenriquepaes8991 5 жыл бұрын
It doesn't makes senses thanking him for it. He is professional, he has customers, he do what customers want him to do and earn his money.
@Krystalmyth
@Krystalmyth 5 жыл бұрын
@@luizhenriquepaes8991 You just said it doesn't make sense to thank someone for something they appreciate. Your parents failed you, and society.
@luizhenriquepaes8991
@luizhenriquepaes8991 5 жыл бұрын
@@Krystalmyth Don't get me wrong, I love Jason's channel too, just saying that he is professional, so, he makes what his costumers like, if they like a green board, he would use a green board, just saying about that.
@luizhenriquepaes8991
@luizhenriquepaes8991 5 жыл бұрын
@@Krystalmyth Observation: I already Said that I feel blessed for having this content (not on this commentary), so, In the "human side" the of the thing I feel like the friend of the commentary, just talking about business
@balthasarlumbantobing4112
@balthasarlumbantobing4112 5 жыл бұрын
Average engineer: "Simply use AWD for road car and 4WD for offroad car." German engineer: "How about making 4WD more complicated so it can mimic AWD?"
@troyc5994
@troyc5994 5 жыл бұрын
You forgot the “ let’s charge them an arm and a leg for it”
@milosstojanovic4623
@milosstojanovic4623 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, and yes what Troy said xDD
@zeframc
@zeframc 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's great until it breaks :)
@paulsnell534
@paulsnell534 5 жыл бұрын
Germans over engineer everything.But they do make some great machines. That you can never deny.
@mikec3454
@mikec3454 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Keep 4WD for trucks and SUVs with an off-road bias and AWD should stay in cars. What BMW has done here is simply "over-engineer" the drivetrain for pure marketing and ability to charge more.
@arekb5951
@arekb5951 5 жыл бұрын
This whiteboard stand must have been expensive
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 5 жыл бұрын
Buying an M5 was a poor investment on my part, simply to hold up a whiteboard! 😂 (Thank goodness for press cars).
@JPfernandez15
@JPfernandez15 5 жыл бұрын
Lol
@michaelrossi3707
@michaelrossi3707 5 жыл бұрын
Should’ve just just used the door of the m5
@jessery475
@jessery475 5 жыл бұрын
@@michaelrossi3707 might be difficult to get hold of future press cars if your are seen doodling on them
@MicraHakkinen
@MicraHakkinen 5 жыл бұрын
@@michaelrossi3707 At 0:07 you can see the result of all the failed takes when recording this ;)
@barsaf9989
@barsaf9989 5 жыл бұрын
Finally I can go rock climbing in my M5!
@dr.vegito
@dr.vegito 5 жыл бұрын
🤔
@worldtravel101
@worldtravel101 5 жыл бұрын
ummm..... lol
@TheSingleTrucker
@TheSingleTrucker 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think that means what you think that means!
@johannesdatblue4164
@johannesdatblue4164 5 жыл бұрын
if you buy some truck tires to increase the space beneath you and the ground it would be possible - like most things :D
@mr.kwamid-86_43
@mr.kwamid-86_43 5 жыл бұрын
... on the m5, in cruise control ;)
@gloredon
@gloredon 4 жыл бұрын
I just spotted this one, and watched it. Good video, and a good attempt to explain the difference between AWD and 4WD. However, several things you said are not quite true" First , no matter what BMW "claims" their X-drive system is, it is, in reality, a selectable AWD system, not a 4wd system. The presence of that clutch pack in the transfer case really turns it into an AWD system when turned on. It's all about marketing really. Second, a 4wd system can absolutely be used on the road in 4H or 4WD without the gearing reduction. There are two great uses for this, snow and rain conditions. On dry pavement, it will still work just find and the amount of bind in the center in minimal. So if you're driving on a paved road with some snow cover, you can use 4H without endangering your driveline, with no need to keep switching the t-case from 2H to 4H and back. $L is for offroad use because it WILL create a lot of bind in the drivetrain if driven on the street. But again, in deep snow it will also work fine. Third, AWD is NOT good for offroad. It actually sucks. Mostly because AWD systems do not have the strength in the driveline components to take on rocks and other high-stress obstacles without snapping. Also, AWD systems often use a vscuous coupling unit for that center differential, which when stressed very hard (as offroad obstacles are wont to do) the coupling unit will slip and overheat the oil in it, possible burning it out. Lastly, AWD systems are not mostly FWD and then they send torque to the rear when needed. Some do that, mostly care that in their non AWD version is a front drive car. If the base model of the AWD car is a RWD car, then usually the AWD version is heavily rear biased AWD. Some thing like a 35:65 torque split (which was the normal split for the Astro Safari minivan's AWD versions). Check out Subaru's AWD system in the Outbacks. Most AWD systems are not one axle gets all the torque until needed, but they have a preset bias. 85:15 is common for cars that are FWD base models. Basically AWD is a street system that provides excellent traction in wet/snowy conditions and great off-the line starts without wheelspin, and 4WD is for offroad performance. Keep up the good videos though, your content is easy to watch and fun.
@luchts4547
@luchts4547 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, this video made me paranoid that I may be damaging my jeep by using 4H on snowy/icy roads, glad to hear it's ok!
@TheScottiem303
@TheScottiem303 4 жыл бұрын
@@luchts4547 same thinking until I got to this comment. I always believed what Bill said, but the video had me paranoid.
@csyarid
@csyarid 4 жыл бұрын
You took the words right out of my mouth. Except I would say that this video spreads bad information. As you said... 4WD is fine on the road. Modern 4WD systems don't get the binding that he claims.
@spraynpray
@spraynpray 4 жыл бұрын
The 4WD systems that bind are a lot better offroad, as they act like locked diffs. I muuuuuuuch prefer them. I want front, center, and rear locked. Maybe be able to turn the front off, but meh. For example, my 2001 pathfinder could not be driven on road unless there was slip, like wet leaves or ice. And it was a beast offroad. My 2012 Xterra has some slip in the transfer case and open diffs, so it can be driven on road in 4WD mode. However, offroad it has the capabilities of a coma patient on a skateboard. All AWD systems suck offroad.
@matthewhartup941
@matthewhartup941 4 жыл бұрын
@@spraynpray Not so fast. My 96 zj has full time awd. It does have a 4 low but I've only put in a few times just to make sure it engages. With a solid 8.5 inches of ground clearance and 30 inch AT tires she does great both on / off road and in the snow.. in just awd.
@SickFlicksTrick
@SickFlicksTrick 5 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy all of your videos for the technical detail you're able to provide in an easy to digest manner. However, as someone big into off road driving, rally or rock crawling, I get especially excited when you upload 4WD related videos. Thanks for all the great vids!
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 5 жыл бұрын
Happy to hear it, thanks for watching!
@acarguy3773
@acarguy3773 5 жыл бұрын
So the M5 has 4WD that mimics AWD? Clever!
@therealsnow
@therealsnow 5 жыл бұрын
But with the ability to go rear wheel only drive if desired, nice idea :)
@acarguy3773
@acarguy3773 5 жыл бұрын
@@therealsnow well, that is a characteristic of a 4WD system anyway, which is probably why they chose to go with this system as it has all of the benefits of both 4WD and AWD. It's a really cool idea.
@simonasbajoras9132
@simonasbajoras9132 5 жыл бұрын
@@therealsnow some new amgs can do that aswell, even thou they are awd
@VictorEstrada
@VictorEstrada 5 жыл бұрын
That's why they came up with a new name for their 4AWD (what ever you wanna call it lol) system. With their xdrive system, it's kind of like a smart AWD that dynamically changes how it sends power to each of the 4 wheels individually. So enthusiasts are coming up with a way of disabling AWD with an app, it's gonna be awesome!!
@acarguy3773
@acarguy3773 5 жыл бұрын
@@VictorEstrada yeah. That does sound awesome. It's a bit of a gimmick but it's another way to impress people when you show them your new M5. As if the power and speed aren't enough!
@nooranik21
@nooranik21 5 жыл бұрын
I'm a simple guy. I see a whiteboard, I press like.
@bryanmoreno2433
@bryanmoreno2433 5 жыл бұрын
Good job dude who disliked it
@jannotcheng4191
@jannotcheng4191 5 жыл бұрын
U
@f44had
@f44had 5 жыл бұрын
Ok
@Vintermark83
@Vintermark83 4 жыл бұрын
Had to like your comment to get it to 666! I also appreciate the simple things in life, such as whiteboards. :)
@loop1479
@loop1479 4 жыл бұрын
@@bryanmoreno2433 Whiteboard racist
@brymilan
@brymilan 2 жыл бұрын
Told me exactly what I wanted to know. I was coming across a lot of usage-focused or "which is better" explanations to this question. But this video told me succinctly the gist of what the intrinsic mechanical differences between the two are. Thanks for that!
@abdulazizal-zadjali8574
@abdulazizal-zadjali8574 5 жыл бұрын
Simplicity with using white board makes your explanations simple and clear for viewers Thanks a lot...
@Xamor101st
@Xamor101st 5 жыл бұрын
My aunt had an awd suv that struggled to get through the driveway when it snowed, because you couldn’t set/select when all the wheels engaged. They would only all engage after the tires started spinning, which made it useless at that point anyways. Since then she’s gotten a select 4wd suv and has no problem.
@Lee90000
@Lee90000 5 жыл бұрын
I drive a honda chipmunk with a garden shovel, wrecking bar, 3 iron pipes, and an aluminum baseball bat. Snow is not a problem for me.
@johnwest6977
@johnwest6977 2 жыл бұрын
@@Lee90000 man’s gotta work to get out of snow😂
@tristanarmani
@tristanarmani 5 жыл бұрын
They might as well make it so the suspension can raise a couple inches or feet so your bmw m5 can be an off road tank
@angelocardoc
@angelocardoc 5 жыл бұрын
Looks like BMW just reinvented the AMC Eagle
@papa_pt
@papa_pt 5 жыл бұрын
@@angelocardoc if you ever drive a first Gen x5 they drive exactly like you'd expect a lifted e39 to. No crossover fluff
@Teamoneilrally
@Teamoneilrally 5 жыл бұрын
Outside BMW's marketing department, this is part-time AWD. It can vary power Front/Rear and that's the difference between AWD and 4WD. Just like you said in the beginning. The fact you can switch it from 2WD to AWD doesn't make it 4WD... just selectable AWD. It would be 4WD if the front and rear driveshafts turn at the same speeds, as with a normal transfer case, or locking center diff. That's how Land Rover gets away with calling their AWD SUVs "Full Time 4WD" they are AWD with a selectable locking center diff in the transfer case. No biggie, and you were spot on in the beginning, the variance of power Front/Rear is the determining factor. Love the videos and keep up the good work!
@alex_ottomano
@alex_ottomano 5 жыл бұрын
Jeep did this nearly 20 years ago with a viscous coupling in the transfer case. And my 89 cherokee can be set in 4wd full time which basically makes the tcase an open diff, as well as locked and low range capabilities.
@BobMcCoy
@BobMcCoy 5 жыл бұрын
*Dude it's easy 4WD uses 4 wheels and AWD uses all the wheels* 😂😂😂
@abhiinair
@abhiinair 5 жыл бұрын
Which in a car with 4 wheels can mean the same thing. 😒 So you need to be specific.
@recommit
@recommit 5 жыл бұрын
Abhilash Nair Think...humour!!
@abhiinair
@abhiinair 5 жыл бұрын
@@recommit Uh yeah. 😅😂
@reeii9184
@reeii9184 5 жыл бұрын
Then let me create the impossible: A Peel P50 with 4WD!
@princeshepherd1
@princeshepherd1 5 жыл бұрын
_Bob McCoy so FWD means four wheel drive? True story though, I went to look at a used car and the guy told me it’s 4wd coz it says FWD lol!
@zigmar2
@zigmar2 5 жыл бұрын
You are not correct on this one. AWD and 4WD are the same thing. The actual terms used for what you're explaining are "Full-time" and "Part-time". A full-time AWD/4WD system is always engaged, powering all the wheels, with a central diff (it could be a simple open diff or a diff with an additional automatic locking mechanism). Some such systems come with a user lockable central diff, like Land Rover Defender and Toyota Land Cruiser; some don't, like a lot of AWD/4WD passenger cars and crossovers. Part-time systems can be engaged and disengaged by the driver, and don't have a central diff. They are usually meant to be driven in 2WD mode on normal roads and the 4WD mode is intended for loose terrains like mud, snow, sand, etc. Examples are the Jeep Wrangler, Toyota Tundra and Hilux. There are part-time vehicles like the BMW shown in the video that can always be driven in 4WD mode but such solutions are not present on all part-time systems. These systems use some sort of an automatic locking mechanism, which could be a clutch, a viscous coupling, etc.
@TheAlpineProject
@TheAlpineProject 5 жыл бұрын
The reason I bothered opening the video was I figured the whiteboard too simple for this one and wanted to gripe. I've got an AWD system that looks identical to the 4x4 setup on the whiteboard.
@MattBrownbill
@MattBrownbill 5 жыл бұрын
I have to agree, 4WD = AWD, full time Vs part time is the big difference.
@randrews25
@randrews25 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for explaining the part time and full time bit. You made me understand that my 2007 toyota auris with 4wd is actually part time. There is a button i press to disengage 4wd when im driving regularly. On sandy, wet and rough areas i engage it and the tires 'grip' the road better.
@zigmar2
@zigmar2 4 жыл бұрын
@@randrews25 Does the button you mentioned have the word "Auto" written on it? I'm not completely familiar with that car's 4WD system, but based on what I've read you should be able to use the 4WD mode all the time. The system sends power only to the front wheels most of the time but when necessary, it will also send power to the rear wheels. Check the user manual to make sure. IINM It is an automatic part-time system, pretty similar to the one in the video.
@jonathanmatthews4774
@jonathanmatthews4774 5 жыл бұрын
Jason, Never give up the whiteboard. It's just such a part of the channel's charm. It also gives a really unique vibe to the channel. Reviewing high end cars on a white board. Love it.
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 5 жыл бұрын
It's going no where! Glad you enjoy it haha, thanks!
@logantv69
@logantv69 4 жыл бұрын
I used to have an ‘88 325iX and it used a viscous coupled transfer case. It was completely seamless and its intelligence was in the elegant simplicity of the design. You didn’t need multiple clutch plates or speed sensors, it just used the natural property of the oil to thicken up when there was slippage.
@fridaycaliforniaa236
@fridaycaliforniaa236 11 ай бұрын
If I remember right, the viscous coupling means that you sometimes have to change the oil, right ? Like if you practice a lot of off-roading, if the diff gets hot, the oil can literrally turn to pee and the shear effects inside the coupler get weak ?
@logantv69
@logantv69 11 ай бұрын
@@fridaycaliforniaa236 Yeah just drain it and fill it back up with gear oil. It’s as easy as changing engine oil, or even easier since there’s no filter. Just like a diff
@bernardoneves9
@bernardoneves9 5 жыл бұрын
How about a video explaining 4WD/AWD systems in transverse engine cars? For example, Mitsubishi Evolution, Golf R, etc.. Awsome video as allways!
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 5 жыл бұрын
See the video description for a detailed look at the Evo’s AWD system. :)
@webweasel4401
@webweasel4401 5 жыл бұрын
@@EngineeringExplained How about the Celica GT4?
@bernardoneves9
@bernardoneves9 5 жыл бұрын
@@EngineeringExplained Thank you! :)
@lamjay6656
@lamjay6656 5 жыл бұрын
How 'bout mitsubishi super select II 4wd system?
@kingrpriddick
@kingrpriddick 5 жыл бұрын
I think he has, across different videos, described electronic, various mechanical, and open differentials as well as active torque vectoring, the most common name or at least what I call combining open differentials with brakes to "vector" the torque away from a slipping wheel by immobilizing it. Each AWD system is a combination of these differentials that can (think disconnecting axles) have all wheels connected to one or more engines.
@Petroilhead
@Petroilhead 5 жыл бұрын
WD40 wheel drive
@christophercervantes5346
@christophercervantes5346 4 жыл бұрын
Me with my beater I use for work
@ronniestanley9090
@ronniestanley9090 4 жыл бұрын
Thats slippery AF!!
@mil3k
@mil3k 4 жыл бұрын
WD40, the only deodorant an engineer needs.
@mean45acp
@mean45acp 4 жыл бұрын
That was a good simple explanation of AWD and 4WD. The problem people have is not KNOWING when or where to use 4WD in a traditional setup. That is why you see so many SUVs that are 4WD in ditches or on their sides in BAD weather conditions. 4WD locks the front and rear together and can not regulate any change in wheel speed, so when you turn the wheel even slightly the system binds and you get into a situation where you can easily loose control of the vehicle. You do not need 4WD to drive on snow, it is worthless on ice due to the binding and is only recommended for low speed use. Off road racing has 4WD, but is very rarely used due to the speeds driven. As for the system being used by BMW in the M5, it isn't true 4WD. It is fantastic engineering. The use of the clutch pack inside the transfer case is smart. Allowing for variations in wheel speed and knowing the wheels are not slipping is great engineering. I look forward to seeing this type of transfer case being used on SUVs and full size pickups. It would save insurance companies and drivers a lot of money. Now do a video explaining how 4WD is ACTUALLY 2WD, and maybe explaining the ORIGINAL TRUE 4WD SYSTEM that allowed for wheel speed variables and did not bind. It came out in the 70s, build and ONLY used in JEEP when it was JEEP/AMC. Well before Chrysler bought Jeep. The name is QUADRATRAK. All time, high speed 4WD. You had a small lever in the floor that switched from HIGH to LOW range 4WD. The system had a switch/knob in the glove box in case you ever ACTUALLY stuck the JEEP. The owner's manual told you to put the floor lever in LOW, put the transmission in lowest gear, then turn the knob to ON. DO NOT TOUCH FUEL PEDAL. Sit back and wait until the vehicle climbed out of whatever you were stuck in. I had this on a 78 CJ7. This system was WAY AHEAD of its time.
@swabby429
@swabby429 5 жыл бұрын
My first encounter with AWD was in my '86 VW Syncro Wagon. Default was AWD but there were two vacuum controlled differential locks. I remember only using the locks experimentally a couple of times. I only needed to lock both in one instance. That was to drive out of a very deep snow bank. The car was a gasoline hog, but I loved it in the winter.
@Pera-Peric
@Pera-Peric 8 ай бұрын
I have vw t3 synchro diesel. Is the best 🚛 on snow and off road
@evan8tor21
@evan8tor21 5 жыл бұрын
Could a 6 wheel G wagon have 4 wheel drive🤔
@numberonebacon
@numberonebacon 5 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure it has all-wheel drive, and 6 differentials.
@afspillingsliste1000
@afspillingsliste1000 5 жыл бұрын
Yes it could, if it only sends power to 4 wheels. It's the same principle with 2 wheel drive cars, which have 4 wheels of course
@acarguy3773
@acarguy3773 5 жыл бұрын
It would just be a 6x4 instead of a 4x4.
@Appletank8
@Appletank8 5 жыл бұрын
@@acarguy3773 What does the 4x4 mean? 4 wheels, 4 axles receiving power?
@acarguy3773
@acarguy3773 5 жыл бұрын
@@Appletank8 yep, exactly that. So a car with front or rear wheel drive only would be a 4x2.
@falgunpatel8764
@falgunpatel8764 5 жыл бұрын
10% comments- Thanksgiving 90% comments- *Whiteboard*
@BarbellRoy
@BarbellRoy 2 жыл бұрын
I have an AWD Ford Edge. Years ago, I had a Ford F150 4x4. One thing I learned....AWD-4X4, it ALL really depends on weather conditions. Both perform poorly on icy covered roads but, in my experience perform about the same in deep snow conditions. Only thing the 4X4 is 100% better at, is for helping to tow another vehicle.
@burtvhulberthyhbn7583
@burtvhulberthyhbn7583 4 жыл бұрын
Explained perfectly. My dearly departed Dad was the one who explained this "center differential" engineering to me since I was a child.
@ErebosGR
@ErebosGR 5 жыл бұрын
The Skyline GT-R has had that since 1989 with the ATTESA E-TS system, only it wasn't user-selectable.
@Xcepticus
@Xcepticus 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the clarity. 🤝 Keep up the good work! 👍👍
@JCO2002
@JCO2002 4 жыл бұрын
1994 Land Rover Discovery 1, 200Tdi, full time 4-wheel drive with a lockable transfer case. Best ride I've ever had. Ewarton, Jamaica.
@ussling
@ussling 5 жыл бұрын
Good video. I will throw my two cents into the cup. I will use a rear 4x4 drive vehicle as an example. One rear wheel provides the power. When the 4x4 lever is pulled, the opposite front wheel then also has power. Not for driving on dry roads, and turning will bind. Like my former 1999 Pathfinder. An exception is a vehicle with locking front and rear differentials. Both rear wheels have power. When the 4x4 lever is pulled, then both front wheels also have power. Not for driving on dry roads, and turning will bind. Like my former 1995 Pathfinder. My dearly departed beloved 2002 Subaru Outback wagon with a manual transmission had All-Wheel drive. All wheels had power all the time. One problem with that set-up is the tires all have to be the same circumference. The previous owner of this car replaced one bad tire instead of all of them. It had a larger circumference than the three worn tires. I bought the car not knowing either of these facts and had to replace the transmission. The clutch was worn, anyway. Could be the automotive engineers have changed all this and never bothered to tell me.
@jafizzle95
@jafizzle95 5 жыл бұрын
Jason the type of guy I can depend on to upload on a Sunday.
@bayoadeyemo4024
@bayoadeyemo4024 4 жыл бұрын
More confused at the end than when I started.
@kennethclifford1863
@kennethclifford1863 4 жыл бұрын
Watch it again in reverse.
@ziegaubrey1643
@ziegaubrey1643 4 жыл бұрын
@@kennethclifford1863 😆
@blitzy3244
@blitzy3244 4 жыл бұрын
Zieg Aubrey 😂
@alphastratus6623
@alphastratus6623 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, because there is no clear definition for both. If you want all wheels possible to be driven you have to check how they are linked. That's it. Don't use marketing therms, just use engineering stuff and compare them before choosing a car.
@waderedsox
@waderedsox 5 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THIS, this is kinda what i thought, lack of a center differential, but it was NEVER clear anywhere i looked this discussion has come up so many times for me and i never had an absolutely certain answer for anyone
@shaneczora1104
@shaneczora1104 5 жыл бұрын
I drive a Hummer H2 and I honestly don’t have a clue how the 4wd system works. It’s supposed to be all wheel drive all the time and then when you need to you can put it in 4wd and lock the front and rear differential. I’d really love to see a video explanation on how the whole system works together if you think that would be a good idea for a video. Love the content!
@NotSoHeavyD3
@NotSoHeavyD3 5 жыл бұрын
Didn't you have a video covering all wheel drive in the 911? You should put that one up there in the description too since that's a bit different with the engine in the rear.(I think you mentioned how it's effectively a rear wheel AWD system that sends power to the front vs most systems which are effectively front wheel that can send power to the rear.)
@WarriorsPhoto
@WarriorsPhoto 5 жыл бұрын
Great explanation. I was wondering how they did that 4WD drive system. I would imagine it works well to help that car handle amazingly.
@Amandaandglenn2023
@Amandaandglenn2023 4 жыл бұрын
Great Video. This is an explanation of part-time 4WD, but doesn't cover "permanent", "constant" or "Full-time" 4WD. Now, I hold the opinion that AWD is just permanent 4WD, like a Subaru for instance. AWD is simply a marketing term. In the Subaru's case, it has a viscous coupling system which carries out the same function as a multiplate clutch pack system or a centre differential. Some permanent 4WDs can select to lock the Centre Differential, thus changing from Full-time 4WD, to "True 4WD". (yes, I'm aware that front and rear axle lockers are technically required to induce "True 4WD"). I feel the difference is that the Centre Differential can be manually locked via a selection made by the driver, whereas the AWD system cannot.
@abdulelali8660
@abdulelali8660 5 жыл бұрын
AWD: Drives on 4 wheels full time and some vehicles (subaru, nissan ect.) have different range selection. 4X4: Drives on 2 wheels by default and only delivers power to all 4 wheels if selected by driver. 4X4 usually has selections 2H 2L and 4H 4L. 2H: 2WD High Range 2L: 2WD Low Range (more torque) 4H: 4WD High Range 4L: 4WD Low Range (more torque)
@davidharris9077
@davidharris9077 5 жыл бұрын
Finally someone who's right. 4 wheel drive is where only 2 wheels at a time have power, usually left front - right rear. ( Remember My Cousin Vinnie where they get stuck in the mud and only right rear tire spins) Same with 4 wheel drive only right rear and left front tires spin. All 4 drive tires can be locked with manual locking hubs(old school) or with an locking hubs selector switch. Since all 4 wheels are locked, the front 2 always turn at the same speed and the rear 2 turn at the same speed, which is not good for cornering. All wheel drive is different. All wheels have power. All wheels can turn at different speeds while also under power. Far superior to 4 wheel drive.
@KarmaTiger
@KarmaTiger 5 жыл бұрын
"AWD: Drives on 4 wheels full time " But there's full-time AWD and part-time, aka on-demand, AWD. Subaru, for example, uses full time AWD - they have a few different systems: Viscous-coupling Centre Differential - 50:50 split Active Torque Split - 60:40 front/rear Variable Torque Distribution - 45:55 -> 50:50 Driver Controlled Centre Differential (DCCD) - 41:59 `> 50:50 However, in part time AWD, the car operates in 2WD mode (FWD on most vehicles, as stated in the video) most of the time and automatically switches to AWD when conditions warrant due to a loss of traction. For example Haldex (which is now owned by BorgWarner and their systems are sometimes distributed under that name) supplies many different manufacturers with AWD systems just like Getrag supplies transmissions, etc. The first gen Haldex coupling (introduced in '98) used in the Audi TT, Audi S3 8L and VW Golf, to name a few, would only engage the rear wheels when the front wheels substantially lost traction. The second gen was technically full-time but still sent 95% of the power to the front wheels under normal traction conditions. And Haldex doesn't have a monopoly, they're just one supplier of part-time systems.
@CutcliffePaul
@CutcliffePaul 5 жыл бұрын
BMW GB are right - we Brits use the terms 4WD and AWD interchangeably, assuming the vehicle has four wheels, of course. We also find it weird that Americans call just the gearbox the transmission, whereas we call anything from the clutch or torque converter to the driveshafts the transmission.
@C64SX
@C64SX 5 жыл бұрын
Where I live most people just say four wheel drive. Trying to differentiate AWD from 4WD when there's not really a clear cut line between what is what anymore only brings confusion.
@brianwilson3133
@brianwilson3133 5 жыл бұрын
Is that so? If any American ever moved there, it'd be hell getting used to that vernacular.
@sumrandumguy7177
@sumrandumguy7177 4 жыл бұрын
So is awd basically a “smart” form of 4wd?
@clivehorridge
@clivehorridge 3 жыл бұрын
Sum Randum Guy No, it’s a crap attempt at 4WD
@FaceInTheCrowd
@FaceInTheCrowd 3 жыл бұрын
Yes and no. The car removes the need for the driver to choose which wheels drive and when. The driver cannot even make the choice to go into 4wd (at least not in the Ford Kuga we have). It will usually run in 2wd, but when it senses the need to direct some of the power to the rear wheels, it will do it quickly. For those of us who prefer to have control over the drive and axles used, a 4wd is the way to go.
@flowerpt
@flowerpt 5 жыл бұрын
My old Subaru had a fuse for towing that would disengage the center diff. It wasn't "selectable" unless you wired in a trivial switch. :D I ran it as FWD every summer for a half dozen years and saved 2-3MPG. Now, my old Chevy truck has a hoist pully for engaging the Hi or Low 4WD. I have to shift into Neutral for the Low to engage and it makes quite a "clunk" when it does so. My current Honda calls itself 4WD but there's no clunk and even its diff-lock mode "VTM-4" can be engaged in 1st gear. Nice, but "lockable AWD" in my book.
@moacyrjetpilot
@moacyrjetpilot 5 жыл бұрын
This guy has top-list infos! I’d started to watch his vídeos since his 500k or so subscribers. Now he got +2,3mi and demonstrates the same motivation to spread his knowledge. Thank you for sharing...👍. Congrats, from Brazil!😉🍾
@johnandrewmayne
@johnandrewmayne 5 жыл бұрын
BMW has tons of cool stuff but cant keep seals from leaking after 50k miles
@sexysilversurfer
@sexysilversurfer 3 жыл бұрын
One sells cars and the other sells costly parts!
@snowcat3116
@snowcat3116 5 жыл бұрын
Short answer : AWD= center diff vs 4WD= no center diff (dog clutch, clutch pack, etc)
@seanbyrne7919
@seanbyrne7919 5 жыл бұрын
SnowCat not exactly. The best 4 wheel drive ever built aka the 80 series land cruiser has a centre diff.
@KangoV
@KangoV 4 жыл бұрын
The Nissan R32 GTR in the early 1990s had that exact 4WD system as that BMW (ATESSA). It has a clutch pack in the centre pressurised by a hydraulic pump. The car stayed in rear wheel drive until certain parameters were true (slip angle, yaw, steering angle etc), then it would transfer up to 50% to the front. Probably why it dominated in racing! Every GTR after that has an evolution of the ATESSA system.
@robh3043
@robh3043 2 жыл бұрын
One of the few rare videos that actually describe the differences properly
@NIAtoolkit
@NIAtoolkit 5 жыл бұрын
In 10 years, we'll start to see off-road 4x4 M5 builds that could rival the X5 capabilities
@aidenp5768
@aidenp5768 5 жыл бұрын
NIAtoolkit Yea no ..
@aidenp5768
@aidenp5768 5 жыл бұрын
Daniel B The X5 now has Air suspension and a intelligent AWD system and the car has modes for snow, sand and all that kind of stuff almost 9 inches of ground clearance and the M5 will need to loose it’s bumpers and side skirts in order to go off roading even with a lift do to the sporty nature of the design
@kancolle3363
@kancolle3363 5 жыл бұрын
Deoends if we still run on fuel 10 yrs from now
@peglor
@peglor 5 жыл бұрын
Mercedes already have the 4x4 squared E class with 17" of ground clearance, so BMW have some catching up to do...
@akonnema
@akonnema 5 жыл бұрын
So it would have 0 off-road capability because the x5 is just a car with a taller body???
@nottingham_ChrisAllison
@nottingham_ChrisAllison 5 жыл бұрын
All very amazing and expensive when it goes wrong!
@great0789
@great0789 5 жыл бұрын
Just an FYI... that BMW transfer case is likely made by Magna. Magna makes Cfer cases for 60% of 4wd vehicles on the road. GM, BMW, Jeep, and many others use one of their variants. Also, many Xfer cases these days have an Ultimate Combo that was not mentioned! My Chevy Colorado has 2wd, Auto, 4Hi, AND 4Low (And neutral mode for towing behind an RV). With “Auto” mode the center diff is unlocked like an AWD system so you can drive around on patchy dry pavement and not bind the drive train. 4HI and 4LOW locks that center diff. Enabling 100% of the power to be sent to any single tire instantly when off road(with locking diffs front and rear). As long as a single tire has traction. You won’t get stuck.
@photohounds
@photohounds 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid, as usual mate. Cheers from Australia 🇦🇺
@waydigga1982
@waydigga1982 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid Jason! Closing in on 2M subs!
@jhill4874
@jhill4874 5 жыл бұрын
One of the problems with computer controlled AWD is that the power transfer can get flaky in conditions not programmed for. I have seen units nearly cause loss of control in a windy mountain road. Nice explanation. Thanks.
@danhill6176
@danhill6176 Жыл бұрын
Is that with all AWD, or just synonymous with certain models?
@jhill4874
@jhill4874 Жыл бұрын
@@danhill6176 Try again... As far as I know it's only my friend's SUV that does this. Not sure if they ever solved the issue.
@troyandrade435
@troyandrade435 6 ай бұрын
​@@danhill6176I would assume just certain cars. I have a Subaru and my AWD is phenomenal. I've taken it on dirt at triple digits speeds, drifted in snow and ice, never had any issues.
@chanakyapendse7119
@chanakyapendse7119 5 жыл бұрын
One of the very few KZbinrs whose every video I have clicked the like button !!!
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 5 жыл бұрын
I appreciate it, thanks for watching!
@aidenstone
@aidenstone 4 жыл бұрын
Great video def watch through full vid everyone. I love the technical and data based take you have man. Actual quality content!!! AWD - Automatically handled by car's system and distributes power to where it's needed. Works on road and off road. 4WD - Manual, better off road.
@imabeapirate
@imabeapirate 5 жыл бұрын
You did a video on the Ford Raptor yes? That also has a clever drive system
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 5 жыл бұрын
Yep! Very similar in functionality! kzbin.info/www/bejne/fpa5hqdtdsmVgqs
@gpaas25
@gpaas25 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, that Raptor is a clever girl.
@SgtKanyo
@SgtKanyo 5 жыл бұрын
Don't really understand why BMW had to reinvent the wheel here. The E63S managed a RWD only mode with AWD. And you said it, AWD is better in the corners. Nevertheless it's nice tech.
@mjl8115
@mjl8115 3 жыл бұрын
As an engineer in mechanics (car design) I was taught that those abbreviations means exactly the same. In Europe it is standard, not marketing. When you have a vehicle with four wheels and all wheel are (or can be) driven (AWD) it means that 4 wheels are (or can be) driven (4WD). This is logic. And a type of 4x4 system is the totally different story. We do not have to guess what type of drive is in Mitsubishi Pajero where you can choose 2H, 4H, 4H(lock) and 4L. Yes, you can drive with 4H on-road, because it is normally open, so what is it? We know the answer and every answer is right. In US you have many different definitions from ours and this is OK. In EU AWD, 4WD and 4x4 means the same. We have also different definition of an SUV. In US it is based on frame, and Crossover means unibody. In EU SUV is rather big SUV/Crossover does not matter on frame or not (like MB G-Class and GLS), Crossover is a small one (like BMW X1).
@SocialistDistancing
@SocialistDistancing 4 жыл бұрын
Interestingly, AMC Jeep made an all wheel drive, full-time Four wheel drive system back in 1973. It was called Quadra-Trac. I had one for 30 years. Does what AWD does, but then you can lock up the transfer case and for off road or when things get really shitty. it also has low range and neutral for towing. A fantastic system.
@evil_me
@evil_me 5 жыл бұрын
The grey area is the few 4wd vehicles that have a center diff in their transfercase..... But they can lock it solid.......
@geoffmooregm
@geoffmooregm 5 жыл бұрын
Yes my Sequoia does this. I have 2WD, 4HI (unlocked), 4LO (unlocked), 4HI (locked), 4LO (locked). When the transfer case is in 4WD unlocked then its running through a TORSEN center diff so you get some torque bias to the wheels with traction.
@Dganny24
@Dganny24 5 жыл бұрын
Jeep Cherokees and grand cherokees had this as an optional transfer case. They had 2-hi, 4-hi(part time) 4-hi(full time) neutral and then 4-lo as options to select when driving.
@1wasinAlpha
@1wasinAlpha 5 жыл бұрын
Evil Me now those are the cars I call offroad worthy
@IJMacfarlane
@IJMacfarlane 5 жыл бұрын
@@Dganny24 Yup, NP242 trasfer case, specifically.
@BirdiesGoCherp
@BirdiesGoCherp 5 жыл бұрын
Easy, all wheel drive is when all of the wheels receive power from the transmission. Four wheel drive refers to when only 4 wheels receive power. Now give me an Engineering degree!
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 5 жыл бұрын
Get this man a diploma!
@cobra454tim
@cobra454tim 5 жыл бұрын
Engineering Explained Dang it he still my thunder !
@cobra454tim
@cobra454tim 5 жыл бұрын
Engineering Explained I knew my Subaru could become Rockcrawler 😂
@BirdiesGoCherp
@BirdiesGoCherp 5 жыл бұрын
@@EngineeringExplained Hey Jason, during the drive to university today I stumbled across a ~2010ish Mercedes C225 which had the 6.3 AMG badge on it (obviously fake) which got me thinking; is it better to have larger cylinders or more cylinders if you could choose one. Thanks, keep up the great work!
@louisswanepoel1614
@louisswanepoel1614 5 жыл бұрын
@@EngineeringExplained Wow, Savage
@gpezun
@gpezun 4 жыл бұрын
Love the semantics clear, straight, to the point.
@swyzzlestyx
@swyzzlestyx 4 жыл бұрын
My 2005 Ford Escape was a full time 4WD, or four wheel drive car. I enjoyed everything about it except feeding it fuel, That beast was thirsty. My 1015 F-150 is 4X4, or Four Wheel Drive but I do have a 4A setting , 4 Automatic, which runs like all wheel drive.
@adrian9727
@adrian9727 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the video
@joecool509
@joecool509 5 жыл бұрын
Can you explain the failure mechanism caused by. Tires of slightly different diameters to awd cars? One flat means 4 new tires?
@peglor
@peglor 5 жыл бұрын
There is none, an AWD car can accommodate different wheel diameters as it has 3 differentials (Or other devices allowing wheels to go at different speeds like Fords replacing of the center and rear differential with 2 clutches, one to send drive to each rear wheel).
@Tedlasman
@Tedlasman 5 жыл бұрын
If the tires are different diameters, the differentials etc will need to compensate, and thus will heat up and wear faster. Usually you would replace 2 tires
@AndrewFRC135
@AndrewFRC135 5 жыл бұрын
Be careful if you ever tow any AWD vehicle. Never tow with only 2 wheels on a dolly. The speed difference at the center diff will be so great that it will blow itself apart. Some vehicles have front or rear axle disconnect for this purpose.
@niuhuskieguy
@niuhuskieguy 5 жыл бұрын
@@peglor That is actually incorrect. Just about all awd systems include a disclaimer that all tires and wheels need to be the same size and type or damage will occur. At most they were designed to accomdate the use of a manufacturer spare tire for a temporary period of time.
@educruiser
@educruiser 5 жыл бұрын
Mitsubishi Montero/Pajero has severals options of traction. It has a transfer case but also has a central diff. So it allows to select 2H, 4H, 4HLC, N, 4LLC. 2 Wheels drive, 4 wd with open central diff for using on tarmac, 4 wd with locked central diff for snow, gravel, sand... neutral, and 4 wd central diff locked and low range for maximun torque and low speed. It's quite reliable and I think is the most complete traction system since 90's.
@Racer_kmk
@Racer_kmk 5 жыл бұрын
Wow. That is super cool technology on BMW's part! (The modified Transfer Case)
@GRANLALO25
@GRANLALO25 5 жыл бұрын
That technology is not new... Jeep has used it in the 80´s Grand Wogoneer
@niki123489
@niki123489 5 жыл бұрын
Very educational video. BMW should pay you for this review. lol
@Lee90000
@Lee90000 5 жыл бұрын
they didn't?
@wagonranger7388
@wagonranger7388 5 жыл бұрын
Great video as always, but I disagree. There are too many different mechanical systems for just two terms. I do understand the colloquial differences between 4WD and AWD, but I have yet to see a consistent mechanical difference between them. The sole exception is that a system that has a low range is not called AWD, although there might be an exception to this too. I view 4WD and AWD as technically and mechanically synonymous, with people generally using 4WD for trucks and SUVs and AWD for SUVs and cars.
@JohnnyReb2000
@JohnnyReb2000 2 жыл бұрын
There's definitely not as much of a difference between the two categories in newer vehicles than traditionally since car companies incorporating AWD features in 4×4 systems and vice-versa.
@slimsammyone
@slimsammyone 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent description. AWD = center diff, 4WD = transfer case. As someone who has owned 4WD vehicles, and was familiar with the transfer case, I wasn't sure how an AWD differed. Thank you.
@rossdavis428
@rossdavis428 5 жыл бұрын
Easy Explanation for these drive-trains: All-Wheel Drive = works on *ALL* drive-able surfaces~ 4-Wheel Drive = works when *4* wheels need torque at the same time~ Also FYI @4:29, Audi created a AWD drive-train design like this BEFORE BMW did. My 1987 Audi 5000 CS Quattro has a dial selector that lets the driver switch where the engine torque is being distributed: selections are front axle, rear axle, or both axles.
@jimmywillims5929
@jimmywillims5929 5 жыл бұрын
All wheel drive is when all 4 tires spin all the time at diffent speeds 4wheel drive is when you can have 2 or 4 wheels Spin at the same same speed all the time
@ShopTalkWithJason
@ShopTalkWithJason 5 жыл бұрын
What about full time 4wd and selectable AWD?
@AlexandarHullRichter
@AlexandarHullRichter 5 жыл бұрын
Succinct. I like it. Thanks.
@illiteratethug3305
@illiteratethug3305 4 жыл бұрын
James May: "I like him, he know's what he's talking about"
@masejoer
@masejoer 5 жыл бұрын
Borg Warner Torque on Demand transfer cases pretty much do it all. AWD, 4Hi, 4Lo, 2wd at your disposal. I wish that it was used in more vehicles.
@chaff5
@chaff5 3 ай бұрын
Easy way to remember which is which: "All" wheel drive is "all" the time (mostly).
@sriniwonwonrajasekar4243
@sriniwonwonrajasekar4243 5 жыл бұрын
can u explain about the six stroke engine patented by an Keralite. I really don't understand it
@groovymotion5706
@groovymotion5706 5 жыл бұрын
I noticed 2 weeks ago that the current gen CRV use AWD while the previous gens were using 4WD and yet, it's still the same system?! I guess they changed it for marketing?!
@mikeh2520
@mikeh2520 5 жыл бұрын
I have the 2002 Honda CRV and it is AWD but it's a little different than Jason explained. The car is always in Front wheel drive and power is always available to the rear axel but each rear wheel has it's own wet clutch system in the rear axel. The rear wheel axel clutches engage only when there is torque applied. So steady state road speed the are off, braking and coasting they are off but when you hit the gas pedal from a dead start there is enough of a torque load there to engage the rear wheel drive clutches. It works pretty good and can send some gravel or snow out behind you. It's taken me up steep snowy roads that front wheel drive cars struggled on. Having the rear disengage when the torque goes down saves gas. The new models are just the same.
@groovymotion5706
@groovymotion5706 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah the CRV is a reactive system, just like my Suzuki SX4 was. I don't like that, sometimes it reacts too late. I prefer by far how my Crosstrek works, I just wish it could have a turbo offered. :)
@mikeh2520
@mikeh2520 5 жыл бұрын
@@groovymotion5706 My CRV has no reaction lag at all. I can toss the rear end around in the snow just like a rear WD. Got to do that today too. It's a fun little SUV IMHO. I've got over 220,000 miles on it and the only significant problem was loosing the air conditioning compressor at around 170,000 miles. The Crosstrek looks like a great car. I might try that next!
@groovymotion5706
@groovymotion5706 5 жыл бұрын
@@mikeh2520 Yeah but it's still a reactive system. The SX4 was great for drifting but terrible for fuel economy! Yeah the CRV look extremely reliable! As for the Crosstrek, it's great for having 2 wheels on lots of snow and the others without, there is no torque steer. Only bummers are the terrible lack of HP and the fact that you can't totally disable the ESP...there is a way but just for below 50kmh.
@firstname7780
@firstname7780 3 жыл бұрын
Love tour videos. the difference is some 7,000-10,000 USD worth of repairs when these Magna Steir manufactured AWD start failing. Some had 3 units by 100,000 kms. F3x and X3s X5 2011-2018 are losing them so fast that there is a long wait for one. Am on the 6th month of this AWD transfer case, the new one having arrived from Germany early aug 2021, but WITH THE INCORRECT FLANGE for an F30! of course the front driveshaft was found out of balance due to some insulator foam that rubbed for who knows how long. New transfer cases shot up from 900$ USD to 5,000 USD for a 2021 revision. All and all, it started shy of year 6 and end of warranty but BMW could not find the source of the tiny vibration. TC failed march-april 2021. Remanufactured one was also defective. New one ended up 7,500$ CAD plus reprogramming plus a new driveshaft, all dine at an independent sports car garage that loaded me with discounts. total cost of fixing this on my 2014 M Performance is 8,000$ USD.... yes these transfer cases are badly designed and built for the torque and heat that we have these days. original one was fiund with seized bearings, and the whirrrrrrrrr, very very faint, kicked off 2019, car at 70,000 kms... so did vibrations in very rare condition (high speed turn ramp to the right)... anyways, if you can drive a RWD with winters, do so!
@nathanjdias
@nathanjdias 3 жыл бұрын
Some AWD also have a switchable 4x2 mode. Seen it with Borg Warner ToD systems
@snowcat3116
@snowcat3116 5 жыл бұрын
4WD car with rear bias as the Nissan GTR if I'm not mistaken.
@nizm0man
@nizm0man 5 жыл бұрын
GT-R ATTESA is part time 4WD, i.e. it's RWD until the car detects slip, then transfers torque to the front diff via the transfer case.
@kingrpriddick
@kingrpriddick 5 жыл бұрын
@@nizm0man That is AWD, user selectable full time 50/50 front to rear bias is the common definition of 4WD used by everyone but europe apparently. All Wheel Drive is defined as any form of automatically variable and/or non-50/50 front to rear bias. At least that's the definition Japanese, American and Australian auto manufacturers have stuck to and the definition any layman in those countries would try to describe.
@j0lel666
@j0lel666 5 жыл бұрын
I was thinkikg about that too cuz if you search subaru imprezas for sale in nettiauto some say awd some say 4wd makes me confused asf that thise gc8 has 4wd and new ones awd
@An.Individual
@An.Individual 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not convinced he's right on this one. I think, as BMW state, 4WD and AWD are just marketing terms with no real definitions. The term does not imply any particular design of centre diff.
@lewis72
@lewis72 5 жыл бұрын
I agree.
@J-Bibble
@J-Bibble 5 жыл бұрын
Yes agreed. There are no standard definitions.
@lewis72
@lewis72 5 жыл бұрын
As far as I am aware, "All Wheel Drive" term came into more common use to try and distance thoughts of heavy, thirsty 4x4s from smaller cars with 4WD.
@WhoStoleMyAlias
@WhoStoleMyAlias 5 жыл бұрын
My thought exactly. This just seems to be a marketing term for manufacturers like Toyota that build both on- and off-road cars to state that the 4WD system is completely different between the two. Which is likely to be true but is in fact the result of other components like being to able to lock the differential and select low gearing. Which given the ground clearance of this BMW you are very unlikely to find in there.
@34psbolide
@34psbolide 5 жыл бұрын
As far as I know, in german we don't use different words for the different systems. They are all called "Allradantrieb" - all wheel drive. Maybe that's why BMW states "it's all the same".
@jonathanteagle
@jonathanteagle 5 жыл бұрын
We talk about 4WD mainly in the UK because all of the cars here have 4 wheels. Therefore all AWD cars are 4WD by definition. Journalists used to talk about permanent 4WD as opposed to selectable 4WD to differentiate between road car systems with a centre diff and off road systems without. I don't think buyers in the UK care what kind of 4WD system their vehicle has because we have tarmac roads pretty much everywhere.
@andreiarama8745
@andreiarama8745 5 жыл бұрын
OMG ! Why this channel has only 1.9mln followers ??? Great job !!! Nothing comes close !!!
@ostfahrstreifen8421
@ostfahrstreifen8421 5 жыл бұрын
i always thought the difference is just wheter it is permanent or not. after this, the haldex system (golf) would be an 4WD system, but after this, it would be a AWD system, because it has a differential. And the system also distributes the power itself (but just when there is slip in the front as far as i know)
@joechief2456
@joechief2456 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think there's any real accepted definition. Centre diff is no good as a differentiator because many AWD systems don't use centre diffs - Subaru's automatic cars these days use a wet clutch pack that basically clamps the rear drivetrain onto the front drivetrain with a varying degree of grip so as to allow the rear to slip to rotate at a different speed. Many other AWD systems do this too, I'm pretty sure that any on demand system will because that would make the most sense for a system that's designed to only drive the rear (or rarely the front) in specific relatively uncommon situations. Meanwhile you have 4WD systems that do use centre diffs - the LandCruiser uses a transfer case that instead of working like a traditional 4WD system is actually a low range gearset and a torsen limited slip diff with a diff locker on it to enable full locking. The G Wagen also uses a locking centre diff - no idea if it's limited slip when not completely locked though. You could use the selectable function to differentiate but then you get grey areas with AWD cars that can have their operation driver controlled to an extent, like the Focus RS and the WRX STi, not to mention that full time 4WDs like the LandCruiser will happily work as a very good AWD vehicle even if the driver never touches low range or the locker. Maybe mechanically selectable? Really I think low range is probably the best differentiator because that seems to be the biggest limitation on how much AWD cars can do these days with increasingly sophisticated traction control.
@resomony
@resomony 5 жыл бұрын
Not to mention you'll get better fuel mileage with 2wd (if you want)
@DAN007thefoxx1
@DAN007thefoxx1 5 жыл бұрын
Ive driven a 4WD truck but never an AWD vehicle. It was a '93 Chevy Silverado V8 and I just didnt want to be without it in the snow in West Virginia. So Id drift around corners a little in 2wd then use the 4wd to get back up the hill where my gramps who owns it lives
@Kevin-xs3bd
@Kevin-xs3bd 4 жыл бұрын
Skinny pete, after breaking bad and he stoped the meth, really intelligent guy. Stay away from drugs guys.
@Toastmaster_5000
@Toastmaster_5000 5 жыл бұрын
It is worth pointing out that in the UK, they do legitimately use 4x4, 4WD, and AWD interchangeably, even in cases where the hardware is distinctly different. I'm guessing this is mostly because for them, legit 4WD vehicles aren't all that popular, let alone necessary for most of their population. It's kind of like Americans and the word "liberal", which basically became synonymous with socioeconomic leftist ideals, even though the actual definition is actually somewhat contradictory to that.
@acarguy3773
@acarguy3773 5 жыл бұрын
I think it probably a marketing thing, non car people will not care either way, but if four wheel drive sounds cooler in their simple minds then it might sell better.
@nirfz
@nirfz 5 жыл бұрын
It is the same in german, "Allrad, Vierradantrieb, 4x4" are used interchangeably.
@acarguy3773
@acarguy3773 5 жыл бұрын
@@nirfz the BMW website does it, as Jason showed in the video. Most people don't understand enough so they don't actually care or even notice.
@nirfz
@nirfz 5 жыл бұрын
@@acarguy3773that is true, but in german there has never been a distinction between the words, they were always used interchangably even by experts. Or maybe a better explanation of what i mean: awd or 4wd or 4x4 were never locked to a working principle in german. The distinction (if it was made at all), was made by adding the working principle to one of the epressions: "permanent, zuschaltbar, haldex, visco etc.") Nowadays of the 3 only "Allrad" seems to have survived in german.
@acarguy3773
@acarguy3773 5 жыл бұрын
@@nirfz aahh interesting. Maybe that is one of the reasons for all of the confusion then, even in English. I never knew any of that. I suppose it makes sense to do it that way though, and it gets rid of any ambiguity if they specifically say what type of system it is.
@paullamont8297
@paullamont8297 5 жыл бұрын
AWD is more light duty, 4WD more HD.
@warpedgeoid
@warpedgeoid 4 жыл бұрын
paul lamont perhaps this is true in practice but it isn’t a technical requirement of either system.
@Bobbybeb
@Bobbybeb 5 жыл бұрын
The 4WD and AWD modes can get confusing when shopping around. Each manufacturer has different ways they use and classify the drivetrain. My 2013 highlander says it's 4WD but Toyota also calls it full-time AWD.
@kungfujiujitsufliptrick4832
@kungfujiujitsufliptrick4832 Жыл бұрын
Best description video I could find thank you EE!
@basithph8958
@basithph8958 5 жыл бұрын
The M5 F90 is actually 4WD which is quite quirky on a sports sedan So if I want to go drifting, I can just switch to RWD which is so much better than drift mode
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@BretAllen1
@BretAllen1 5 жыл бұрын
I had a tire shop claim that having even a 2 or 3/32 difference in tire wear on an all wheel drive vehicle will destroy the transmission. To me this makes no sense since those transmissions have limited slip differential. When you corner, tires commonly experience different speeds inside vs outside thus the reason for limited slip differential. Sounded like a scheme to sell more tires to me..thoughts?
@noohairdontcare
@noohairdontcare 5 жыл бұрын
Bret Allen ime this can be a bigger problem with ABS because advanced ABS and stability programs measure wheel speed independently and continuously, which can cause triggers and false triggers, which can prob harm the tranny.
@craigquann
@craigquann 5 жыл бұрын
The diff allows some slip... with different size tires / or new and worn tires mixed. then the circumference of the tires change and it affect wheel speed. Which forces the diff to slip constantly and can burn/wear them out. So you have to keep tires rotated and evenly worn and replaced all at the same time.
@nooranik21
@nooranik21 5 жыл бұрын
Not a scheme. It's a slow death, but unevenly worn tires can be problematic for LSD clutch packs in awd center diffs.
@geoffmooregm
@geoffmooregm 5 жыл бұрын
A difference that small wont matter. Like you said every turn you make will cause a much larger speed difference. Most AWD systems don't send power through the clutches unless slip is detected and this can take a wheel speed difference of 100RPM to apply. A 3/32" difference wont cause that. Any of the systems using a differential to drive all 4 wheels and no computer aids like an old Subaru or Toyota RAV4 won't care at all.
@t.regnerus301
@t.regnerus301 5 жыл бұрын
Subaru needs all 4 tires within 3/32in. I've used tire rack to shave one tire when I get an unfixable flat to avoid buying two new tires.
@reillywalker195
@reillywalker195 3 жыл бұрын
4WD is useful on-road over snow and ice. Proper winter tires and driving technique are important, of course, but 4WD can prevent excessive sliding.
@JeffIsRadd
@JeffIsRadd 3 жыл бұрын
Finally, an explanation that makes sense! Thank you so much!
@DrifterD
@DrifterD 5 жыл бұрын
Oof never been this early for an EE video 😎
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 5 жыл бұрын
Welcome!
@tako2291
@tako2291 5 жыл бұрын
drifter hi
@DrifterD
@DrifterD 5 жыл бұрын
@@EngineeringExplained It never ceases to amaze me whenever you reply to my comments 😎 Cheers!
@DrifterD
@DrifterD 5 жыл бұрын
@@tako2291 Haha yooooo whats up
@xf99
@xf99 5 жыл бұрын
it's good to have life goals...
@pieretention
@pieretention 5 жыл бұрын
I'm still waiting for an AWD/4x4 that can also switch to FWD and RWD
@BruceReed23
@BruceReed23 4 жыл бұрын
Before Subaru was all AWD the had cars available with 4WD. When in 2WD it was FWD.
@geoffmooregm
@geoffmooregm 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing factory but very possible to do with some modified stock 4X4 transfer cases and almost all of the aftermarket transfer cases.
@agentp6621
@agentp6621 5 жыл бұрын
Subaru AWD with manual transmission has 50% power split forward and aft all of the time. 100% mechanical. Automatics have variable power distribution depending on conditions. If driving down hill. A pendulum in the transmission transfers power 80% to the forward wheels and 20% aft. Vise versa is going up hill. 50/50 on level ground.
@mattm6430
@mattm6430 5 жыл бұрын
Like to see this BMW system vs Audi Quattro vs Subaru AWD. Watched quite a few Audi vs Soob vids and the OLD audi's (maybe 90's or very early 2000's) seem to dominate in terms of grip. Not sure why. Perhaps I am mistaken (does seem wrong that late model cars are beating much newer versions).
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