"I need to shift, but I'm listening to the engine" - valid reasoning
@johnmoser26895 жыл бұрын
Quit beeping at me I'm digging that crazy v8 growl nice
@Techademics5 жыл бұрын
See, if he kept the S2000. He could keep revving all the way to 9000!!
@JoeIsCrazyWillman5 жыл бұрын
True story
@duddahgyeah76535 жыл бұрын
I can bet that his advisor is a 60 years old mechanic. Most of the arguments brought here belong to the carburetor age.
@JQB455 жыл бұрын
@@duddahgyeah7653 Somewhat valid response depending on which engine you are referring to. 1960's or early 80's?
@HumbleMechanic5 жыл бұрын
I buy a turbo car then do a turbo delete, then returbo it.
@johnrice67175 жыл бұрын
If it's worth doing, it's worth doing twice... Or sometimes 3 times
@ghoulbuster15 жыл бұрын
anotha one
@ArchimaXed5 жыл бұрын
..with a bigger turbo!
@starvalkyrie5 жыл бұрын
addict
@Digidi45 жыл бұрын
makes sense
@deanjohnson72835 жыл бұрын
"its not crazy fast, 0-60 is under 4 seconds" Jason...you are spoiled af :D Everything under 5 seconds is QUITE fast ....
@caglioso5 жыл бұрын
Dean Johnson I know right
@geraldh.80475 жыл бұрын
@meatmissilef1115 жыл бұрын
I wish they would advertise quarter mile times and trap speed. 0-60 is practically meaningless now that every car has launch control and crazy tires
@jimcole53595 жыл бұрын
Everything under 5 seconds is decent, when you get under 3 seconds it is crazy fast :)
@John-fz3ij5 жыл бұрын
Crazy how electric changed the game. In 2010 you had to spend a minimum of 125K* to buy a sub 4 second car (*except for Nissan GTR), for a sub 3 second car you had TWO options, a 500k lambo or 3 million dollar bugatti.
@gtzemis1 Жыл бұрын
If you’re not economically well off or don’t know how to work on your own car don’t buy a turbo you aren’t capable of taking care of one and it will cost you.
@trymonster66705 жыл бұрын
rotors & pads replacement for this lexus costs more than scotty's toyota celica
@wyndhamcoffman89615 жыл бұрын
Yeah but you got to admit that Scotty's Celica is a more practical car. Jason only drives sporty stuff.
@MrChrisproductions5 жыл бұрын
BS... As a RCF owner, I can 100% say that replacement rotors are $100 each, pads are $300-700 for the set depending on the grade of pad. Compare the pads on an RCF to a C63... Good luck.. Lexus cost a tad more then Toyota's to maintain.
@nickolastiguan5 жыл бұрын
MrChrisproductions 🤦♂️
@lllowelll5 жыл бұрын
@Frost Bite 400
@NikChristo5 жыл бұрын
@@MrChrisproductions how much do you think Scotty's Celica worth???
@bad77dragtruck5 жыл бұрын
*bolts turbo to 5.3 ls* "what now? I wasn't listening."
@johnrice67175 жыл бұрын
LS + Big Turbo = Maximum Freedom
@jasonyoung64205 жыл бұрын
@@johnrice6717 I'm more an LS + roots blower person, because blower wine is a beautiful thing.
@armanimckoy21685 жыл бұрын
That’s what I was thinking
@johnrice67175 жыл бұрын
@@jasonyoung6420: Nothin against super chargers, but it wasn't a supercharged LS that was the first stick shift GM to hit the 7s
@ttcherrick5 жыл бұрын
Jason Young : *WHINE, but I agree, that sound is as sweet as wine. NHRA funny cars are like Bordeaux!
@danielslobodyanyuk60675 жыл бұрын
“This is America I want it now” I died 😂😂😂
@santibanez915 жыл бұрын
**freedom intensifies**
@MultiLuispo5 жыл бұрын
Its my money and i need it now.
@daveybernard10565 жыл бұрын
it's funny cause it's true
@F1fan4eva5 жыл бұрын
Unlike the rest of the world's where they don't want it right then.
@morishogo1445 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's truth, you invent an attack on your state and then go to other states that have a lot of natural water and oil and kill them all because you want that.
@santaengineer7763 жыл бұрын
The fact that you drive and explain that long nerdy science at the same time non stop is impressive!
@BirdiesGoCherp5 жыл бұрын
1 reason to rule them all: Mo Powa baby *wrong channel, sorry*
@nicosmind35 жыл бұрын
Clarkson approves of this comment
@eddymison35275 жыл бұрын
bahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
@BirdiesGoCherp5 жыл бұрын
@@eddymison3527 VTEC Yo
@Menace_sti5 жыл бұрын
And hrspers
@beltranperez3785 жыл бұрын
*LIGHTNING, LIGHTING, LIGHTNING*
@evergreatest76445 жыл бұрын
EE: You shouldn't buy a turbocharged car Me: Alright, I will buy a supercharged one.
@davidl.53354 жыл бұрын
Next upload: Why you shouldn’t buy a supercharged car.
@LessThanPeachy4 жыл бұрын
Honestly I think supercharged cars sound better than turbocharged ones. It doesn’t take too much of the original noise from the engine, it keeps the feel of it, you get that added whine of the supercharger, and of course power to match.
@TruVice7184 жыл бұрын
Jordan Nolan whining lol. Just like in children, I prefer not to hear it. Turbos are pleasantly disrespectful n I love it. Snorting, sneezing and spitting at other vehicles.. 🤣🤣
@xx_weedman420_xx44 жыл бұрын
So three turbos small mid and big when hit ????rpm then mid turbo comes and so on right?
@ericlotze77244 жыл бұрын
t w i n c h a r g e r w i t h a m b i e n t b y p a s s
@MrStickyPete5 жыл бұрын
This is why Im going to wait for the naturally aspirated Taycan
@bitkahuna5 жыл бұрын
that'll be a long wait, lol
@beetleything18645 жыл бұрын
🥴🙃🤣👊🏻👍🏻🙄
@davidm57075 жыл бұрын
Hummmm....
@102wingnut5 жыл бұрын
Actually the Taycan is a Turbo. It says so right on the trunk so....
@rtx2080ubermacht5 жыл бұрын
It has a Turbo Trunck, which has a worse opening/closing response rate than a naturally aspirated trunck.
@liquidh63444 жыл бұрын
“It is not crazy fast... uh... zero to 60 under 4secs”.... You daily drive a F-35?
@hhn20024 жыл бұрын
omg i've been binging boostedboiz and emeliahartford channels where the average hp is 700hp up to 1000hp. i get it lolz
@donniebunkerboi99754 жыл бұрын
Supercharged Miata which is about as quick as bag of potato chips powered by 🚀
@jimaldenmoquete36943 жыл бұрын
F35 Pratt and Whitney's engine cant be that great in acceleration
@bmxriderforlife12343 жыл бұрын
Superlite slc. Skip all the stuff and make it cheap. Then dump money in engine and tires and ecu stuff. 2.9 seconds to 60.
@Chimpy_Mc_Gibbon5 жыл бұрын
You definitely need to impersonate blow off valves more often. I propose that it becomes your new intro.
@mattelieson43955 жыл бұрын
That needs to be the KZbin notification sound when he uploads
@miffedmax5 жыл бұрын
Or at least make it available as a ringtone.
@markproper97915 жыл бұрын
He was actually impersonating the sound a turbocharger makes when closing the throttle without a blow-off valve installed (off throttle compressor surge). blow-off valves make whoosh or pshhh sounds.
@maximumvelocity65425 жыл бұрын
@@markproper9791 there are BOVs out there that are "sequential" such as some HKS and Greddys and do indeed make the exact sounds he makes. Understandably, they're often confused for compressor surge.
@gerRule5 жыл бұрын
9:21
@MaizaHyodo5 жыл бұрын
I myself ride a turbocharged vehicle every day. Sometimes it's my car, sometimes it's the bus.
@nordic54905 жыл бұрын
Maiza Hyodo my daily drive is a 800hp turbo barra Falcon, or a turbo bus.
@AJ-xm4xc5 жыл бұрын
Do tell....
@MistahWorldwide5 жыл бұрын
“This is America. I want power and I want it now!” The energy in that has more heat than most turbos
@yorao5 жыл бұрын
That's what Trump said :P
@nthgth Жыл бұрын
If that's the case, then if all the turbo lovers who claim "there's 'virtually' no lag!" were right, they'd be hugely popular with that type of American
@billp56564 жыл бұрын
Long term a naturally aspirated engine is superior
@Jasontvnd93 жыл бұрын
In what way? Reliability ?
@mvnorsel63543 жыл бұрын
I agree, like being single, less stress, less things to go wrong.
@lockinhinddanger9343 жыл бұрын
@@Jasontvnd9 I mean yeah mainly reliability... Also some older turbos REQUIRED midgrade or premium gas and more expensive oil.
@Jasontvnd93 жыл бұрын
@@lockinhinddanger934 I always find it strange when you say midgrade gas but it's cause I'm from the UK , Our lowest gas is 95 octane with premium generally 98-99 octane. Same with oils just about all our oil is fully synthetic since we change ours once a year.
@gj914713 жыл бұрын
@@Jasontvnd9 you think it's fully synthetic but it's not. Only Amsoil and Redline make 100 % synthetic.
@twowheellifemagazine35835 жыл бұрын
It was a beautiful moment when you flashed "fewer" to correct your grammar after saying "lesser".
@anthonyc18835 жыл бұрын
Yes! It's a small distinction, but a correct one. Less people attended the concert? No, fewer people attended the concert. Very common mistake (and I am definitely NOT some nanny about grammar, calling people out. It's just nice to get it right).
@kevinclass20105 жыл бұрын
It's a made up rule. The old Anglo-Saxon Kings wrote used "less" for items too: Swa mid læs worda swa mid ma, swæðer we hit yereccan mayon.
@methos19995 жыл бұрын
Drax: That's a made up word Thor: All words are made up
@jp86285 жыл бұрын
"More faster" at 2:38 though...
@caglioso5 жыл бұрын
Good call. Appreciate the grammatical correction.
@ryfel995 жыл бұрын
That was a solid "tu-tu-tu-tu"! Marty and Moog would be proud.
@M-N005 жыл бұрын
a mighty tu tu tu
@lil.mountenlighting76824 жыл бұрын
Rose's are red violets are blue I like cars that go tu tu tu
@musicalbenjiman5 жыл бұрын
Speedometer blurred out at 10:18 - you know how much fun he's having!
@muskreality4 жыл бұрын
It's now becoming the standard for cars to have 1.3 - 1.5 litre enginee plus a turbocharger.
@jerk59593 жыл бұрын
Sadly.
@Salmon_Toastie3 жыл бұрын
Everything is basically a rally engine now. 2.0 seems to be the max of most cars nowadays.
@andrews75173 жыл бұрын
Smaller cars in Europe now have 1-litre 3-cylinder engine, plus turbocharger!!! 110 PS (81kW) (VW Polo TSI) My 10-year-old equivalent was 4 cyl, 1.2 litre, 105PS (75kW)
@adityarastogi54203 жыл бұрын
Yes, it feels so bad! You can't even go above 100kmph. If you do, you hear the turbo ranting throughout after that :( Where's the 3 litre naturally aspirated?
@SadMan-pw6ge3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I just worked on a mercedes c class "AMG". For an AMG car its quite sad to see a turbocharged inline-4 sitting there. The owner said he opted for the best option
@James-ns6jm5 жыл бұрын
engines getting smaller with less cylinders and strapping a turbo on to make up the power. Rather than giving us bigger engines strapped with a turbo.
@Kocan75 жыл бұрын
To be fair, it's way cheaper to extract more power from turbocharged engine than it is from NA. For most of those just remapping them can give 30-50BHP, and way more than that with things like bigger IC, downpipe and air induction system. Even hybrid turbochargers cheap compared to turbo/supercharging NA engine.
@102wingnut5 жыл бұрын
There are advantages to both. I love my 1.8 TSI that gets 40mpg on the highway and 35 around town but has the torque and power when and where I want it. If you know how a turbo works there's very little lag as long as you anticipate the need for the boost
@sketchyssk8shop5 жыл бұрын
Make up the lost hp?!? Todays turbo 4 bangers are outdoing old big blocks in power and fuel economy. My ford escape has almost the same power aa my old 2v 5.4 expedition
@jeffreyreardon74875 жыл бұрын
@@102wingnut I agree mate. My turbo 2.0l in my genesis coupe gets 32.4 mpg when I go on trips. But has 276hp when I ask for it. Small, turbocharged engines are the way to go. Best of both worlds
@102wingnut5 жыл бұрын
@@jeffreyreardon7487 awesome! Yeah for us that's definitely true.
@m8eee5 жыл бұрын
"this is america" "i want my power now"
@ramrod1265 жыл бұрын
JG Wenturbo..877 POWER NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Sens23Bruins5 жыл бұрын
Should be: this is america I want more powaa!
@5t3v3n123432115 жыл бұрын
It’s my power and I want it now!!!
@joeysparks9715 жыл бұрын
More power babbyyy
@randomrg46375 жыл бұрын
joey sparks mo POWAh baby?
@wg57685 жыл бұрын
Wow,an engineer without an ego who's honest and can speak in layman's terms.
@fbetti95 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say Jason has no ego, maybe he's got a "correctly sized one" (provided there is such thing?!?) 🙄 The best part is that it seems that he's both got the knowledge and loves what he does 😁
@Masztufa5 жыл бұрын
such a thing doesn't exist. I'd know, since i'm studying to be one
@pycanthusderossi46654 жыл бұрын
Those that can't explain something in layman's terms probably don't know the stuff good enough and use too many specialty words to conceal it.
@TheExcessive13 жыл бұрын
It would have been interesting if you had also talked about mean air density. I live at 5000 ft, so all things considered, a normally aspirated engine puts out about 15% less horse power. Whereas a turbo or super charged engine can maintain rated horsepower at elevations of about 8000 ft before they start to loose power.
@MrComradebuttons2 жыл бұрын
This I always loved na buuuut I live in bc and losing more power the higher you go mean while the road is getting steeper and more curves lol bought turbo much more consistent in the mountains for sure
@dazeen9591 Жыл бұрын
5000ft?? The highest point here is like 2000ft above sea level and I personally consider that already to be extremely high since I'm used to driving only 130ft above sea level.
@realtruenorth Жыл бұрын
Yeah but the air is much colder at 5000 feet than down in the city so, that helps make up for it.
@mikemccormick6128 Жыл бұрын
@@dazeen9591 Where is here, exactly? Denver, CO is 5,279ft above sea level.
@Subpac_ww2 Жыл бұрын
Which is why a Swiss developed the first ever turbo for an aircraft and it went to 13,000ft and the pilots eyes froze shut. He landed it, blind, and rather than baulk about almost dying he immediately announced the success of the new device and how it vastly improved his aircrafts performance. The rest is history.
@MrFloydroy5 жыл бұрын
“0-60 in under 4.2 secs, so it’s not crazy fast. But its good.” Lol
@amiladrck3 жыл бұрын
I was looking for this comment
@V4zz333 жыл бұрын
As a biker: "What's so special about it?"
@DrPacman3 жыл бұрын
@@V4zz33 airbags
@GOHST13ly3 жыл бұрын
@@DrPacman bruh 🤣💀
@josearmandoguerrerochairez34543 жыл бұрын
@@DrPacman You can have a full Kevlar vest, and airbag jackets, and you can walk off pretty much unharmed if you don’t get rolled over, and you have a chance of your bike not being wrecked up.
@forrbyc15085 жыл бұрын
His impression of turbo noises was the best part of this video 🤣🤣
@DoubleClutchAutoReviews3 жыл бұрын
forrby c Personally, I think the NA V8 impression was even better 10:28 "ommmmmm" haha
@ryanmcmanus84083 жыл бұрын
Doo doo doo doo 😂
@silverace082 жыл бұрын
@@ryanmcmanus8408 wow wonder why my turbo does not sound like that at all lol.
@gqh0075 жыл бұрын
Ah yes the typical flames out of the cold side of the turbo stock image
@TheOriginalEviltech5 жыл бұрын
The air coming out of the cold side of the turbo is pretty hot though... Over 100 deg C at full boost.
@gqh0075 жыл бұрын
Eviltech word
@Professor_Raiden5 жыл бұрын
Lol
@joshuahelgeland8145 жыл бұрын
The cold side is pointing up to the left a bit....
@theovandaele32205 жыл бұрын
Hey, if your K&N filter is on fire... don't knock it! (I said knock...)
@Lurrkiing4 жыл бұрын
I recently bought a new civic SI with that 1.5t mostly bc it was cheap and a manual and cool. I didnt realize I loved the turbo kicking in till I've driven it 3k miles. I love it when that acceleration hits and my steering wheel wants to go nuts and my car wants to generate lift. Turbos are fun man.
@michaelblacktree5 жыл бұрын
REV UP YOUR TURBOS!!! oops, wrong channel 😝
@Creeperboy0995 жыл бұрын
m.blacktree turbos don’t rev- they spool lmao
@TheSingleTrucker5 жыл бұрын
friends he's copying a quote and adlib the last part. So it is rev up.
@TheSingleTrucker5 жыл бұрын
Well played!
@Digidi45 жыл бұрын
it's an endless muneypit
@GriffyBoiii5 жыл бұрын
Yahhhh
@ClaytonMacleod5 жыл бұрын
I like how you care about less versus fewer, but “more faster” is perfectly fine. Hehe ;)
@jaydenjohner69015 жыл бұрын
He could've worded that more better
@justarandomguy39695 жыл бұрын
lol i also noticed that XD
@papagarv5 жыл бұрын
It's not necessarily incorrect. It just needs a comma: "spools up more, faster" (more or less short for "it spools up more, and it does so faster").
@07acanoia5 жыл бұрын
Andrew Garvin you would be correct... if he added the correct punctuation...... but he didn’t. So no, it is not technically correct.
@kaptinkeiff5 жыл бұрын
@@07acanoia He didn't say it was technically correct. He said it was not necessarily incorrect.
@MrWaheedulHaque5 жыл бұрын
470 hp its not crazy fast he says My car only have 122 hp 😢
@robertjusic90975 жыл бұрын
I drive my moms peugeot 107 from 2007 with 68 hp and tires that couldn't grip a falling ant
@davideaezakmi95305 жыл бұрын
Bruh my car has 70 Hp
@jaydunbar75385 жыл бұрын
Power to weight is far more important then raw numbers, power that low I imagine your driving a tiny eco box.
@MrWaheedulHaque5 жыл бұрын
@@jaydunbar7538 true my 122hp car is rapid only cos it light weight haha check it out on my channel
@BrokenKingpin5 жыл бұрын
Yeah I don't get how a car that does 0-60 in under 4 seconds is not consider crazy fast.
I'd appreciate a 'Why not to buy a supercharged car' video if you haven't yet.
@jaydunbar75385 жыл бұрын
Superchargers are very inefficient, that's basically it. Great throttle response as the trade.
@hitmixhyepock94055 жыл бұрын
@@jaydunbar7538 except it has throttle response, it has boost when you want it and no boost when you dont.
@prodbybigl5 жыл бұрын
Jay Dunbar right even tho a centrifugal supercharger is still a supercharger I’d rather go with that than a twin screw
@jaydunbar75385 жыл бұрын
@@muskokamike127 superchargers actually have much more heat where it matters, the massive inefficiency is shown by intake temps being crazy without some sort of alcohol injection. Banks power actually just did a video on this not to long ago.
@s0meguy8095 жыл бұрын
@@jaydunbar7538 A lot of superchargers are intercooled. Typically water-air but some centrifugal superchargers use air-air units.
@AlanTheBeast1005 жыл бұрын
Nitpick-of-the-week: Jason: in your throttle/torque graph it should be throttle on x, torque on f(x), IMO.
@YouPlague5 жыл бұрын
I like you
@SangheiliSpecOp5 жыл бұрын
@@YouPlague I like you for liking him
@keijokojootti77905 жыл бұрын
Unless... Inverse driver wish map... Nah. I'm with you on this.
@Vijimn15 жыл бұрын
@@SangheiliSpecOp I like you for liking him..
@SangheiliSpecOp5 жыл бұрын
@@Vijimn1 i like you for liking me for liking him for liking him
@papa_pt5 жыл бұрын
@2:29 yes but here it's like delayed gratification. Because when the boost comes on it's gonna hit with 2x the torque of the NA engine
@102wingnut5 жыл бұрын
@Jose Martins no that's about right depending on your turbo setup.
@102wingnut5 жыл бұрын
Not to mention traction issues.... Floor it, get rolling a bit and as the tires get moving the torque ramps up. Just like a multi-stage drag setup.
@102wingnut5 жыл бұрын
@@muskokamike127 ok good point. A turbo will give you 2x Torque of the same engine N/A. You CAN however build a small displacement Turbo engine that will give you the same or higher torque as a larger displacement NA engine.
@102wingnut5 жыл бұрын
@Jose Martins just as an example my last car was a 1.8L that made 100hp and 105ft-lb. My new car is a 1.8 turbo that makes 184hp and 199lb-ft. The torque band kicks in at 2500rpm and is pretty flat up to redline. I know people have upgraded the turbo and tune to get well over 200hp. Oh and my new car gets 2mpg less on average than the old one. Still get 40 mpg on the highway.
@102wingnut5 жыл бұрын
@Jose Martins no it's two separate cars the new one is a Golf TSI. I understand it runs about 11-12 psi. I'm still running it stock with no mods so far. Maybe a tune up in the future... Once the warranty runs out lol.
@davemoskot177611 ай бұрын
Mazda has perfected the turbo with their 2.5 liter skyactive G motor. No lag whatsoever and absolute perfect throttle response. CX-50 turbo is the new benchmark for performance in the SUV market.
@robertmills7945 жыл бұрын
Manufacturers love turbo's because they can claim CAFE standards within the fleet. Easier to make a car that gets good mileage when not pushed hard, which is what they care about.
@nordic54905 жыл бұрын
Robert Mills turbos are better fuel economy, better mid rpm torque where people actually drive, in 2019 are all 11:1 cr hence great throttle reponse. Turbos dominatw all classes of motor sport where they are allowed. All commercial vehicles are turbo with turbo trucks typically doing 1M kms between rebuilds.
@Appletank85 жыл бұрын
IIRC turbos are great at economy ... But only when you're babying it because you're basically running a tiny NA engine. When you put down power, well now you go from 2 L to 3L and it eats fuel accordingly, and then some to keep cylinders cool.
@jonathandilin53014 жыл бұрын
“This is America!, I want it now” Lol love it
@Utubedeletescomments3 жыл бұрын
North America or South America?
@WMithrandirXbox3 жыл бұрын
Ahmeddeeka!
@Fireguy19625 жыл бұрын
Tried driving a diesel truck without a turbo. You’ll never question if it should have one or not.
@kenkalajdzic5 жыл бұрын
Diesel are another story. There are good NA gasoline engines, can't say the same about diesels ...
@nordic54905 жыл бұрын
Ken Kalajdžič nope. The principles are the same with petrol. All 2019 petrol turbo cars are 11:1 compression ratio hence great low rpm throttle response.
@Rob-3265 жыл бұрын
@@kenkalajdzic I have a neighbor that has a diesel engine that is NA... TSI or whatever it's called... Don't know how well it works for him... But I do know that it's battery died a few times... It was in the winter...Didn't happen on ours...and our car is a TDI. :D
@jets89915 жыл бұрын
Gm's old 6.5 is a great example.
@mikemccade66575 жыл бұрын
without the turbo your looking at 45mph tops.
@eurogryphon2 жыл бұрын
Jeremy Clarkson once showed the difference between NA and turbo lag on _Top Gear_ by racing a minivan against a Mitsu Evo FQ400. Both were in 6 gear at a matching speed, and both floored it. The minivan pulled away whilst Jeremy was sitting there waiting for the turbo to spool.
@swansmeister2 жыл бұрын
Yeah you take the worst car in history as an example, also Jeremy always exagurates on everything.
@TimpBizkit2 жыл бұрын
Just floor it and press the brake for a couple of seconds then release the brake at race start
@gogopowerrangers1 Жыл бұрын
WTF floors it in 6th gear lol, absolutely ridiculous.
@or2kr Жыл бұрын
That's not lag, that's boost threshold. The Evo is obviously losing to a short geared minivan if it is before it even has a third of its torque in a gear that gets it to the much higher top speed
@jamesbosworth41917 ай бұрын
That's why, for gasoline engines, a supercharger is better. No lag.
@aygwm5 жыл бұрын
It’s funny how the pitch and enthusiasm of Jason’s voice has increased over the years. We are at peak Jason
@quintonvongpanya56695 жыл бұрын
He's at peak torque
@starvalkyrie5 жыл бұрын
"This is America, I want it now" someone clip that. I need the reaction video.
@kibawhitefang71765 жыл бұрын
I know right? Let's keep it that way, mate. lol
@ramrod1265 жыл бұрын
I would be very interested in a video comparing turbo vs NA fuel economy at the same horsepower rating. For instance, take any Ecoboost and compare it to something with the same horsepower that is NA.
@torod2135 жыл бұрын
My 182hp 1.5 turbo Focus uses at least 35% less fuel than my mom's 160hp N/A 2.0 Mazda CX-5. So.... There's that.
@jevgeniardassov5 жыл бұрын
Now try that at around 5500 rpm, then it's a different story. There's always two sides.
@TheSingleTrucker5 жыл бұрын
It really depends on the driver. A driver that let's the turbo(s) and transmission do all the work will see better fuel economy.
@BugMagnet5 жыл бұрын
@@torod213 You are alo comparing a compact car to an SUV, but the turbo still helps.
@torod2135 жыл бұрын
@@BugMagnet *wagon to an SUV, but yes you have a point. It accounts for some of the difference, but far from all of it.
@davidgrisez9 ай бұрын
Since I was born in 1951 I have seen a number of trends in automobile engines over the years. Turbochargers and Superchargers have been around a number of years, however in past years most car engines were naturally aspirated. Turbochargers were found primarily on expensive high performance cars. Now because automobile manufacturers are trying to get higher fuel mileage and still have plenty of power we are now seeing a lot of four cylinder engines with turbochargers. As an example the car I drive is a 2011 BMW 328i. This car has a 3 liter 6 cylinder engine that is naturally aspirated. The BMW 3 series cars that came after this model now use a 2 liter 4 cylinder engine that is turbocharged.
@StatusQuo2095 жыл бұрын
Man I love the sound of turbos with a cold air intake. That induction noise and that sound while the boost ramps is addicting lol. Great video 👍
@microdubber5 жыл бұрын
Living here in Singapore I lust for the roads this guy is driving on...
@MrLordZenki4 жыл бұрын
Don't feel bad, I live in USA but in a dense metropolitan area, and I also lust for the roads he drives on.
@mwsc4 жыл бұрын
@@MrLordZenki I live in NJ next to NYC and there are plenty of open Highways and Interstates to cruise around. I used to live in Kansas City and I've driven across the states to Southern California as well as three trips from Midwest to North East. There are so many nice roads in Colorado, Utah, Nevada, Pennsylvania, and southern states.
@do_not_rotateyour_phone39574 жыл бұрын
These type of roads are pretty dangerous too. These are prone to deer crossings that can turn your enjoyable ride into a nightmare..
@uptorest4 жыл бұрын
Johor
@sexysilversurfer3 жыл бұрын
Roads maybe long but what about speed limits and speed cameras, Germany has those no peed limits autobahns.
@ChildoftheKoRnf95 жыл бұрын
Want to talk about rare? Naturally aspirated Manual Transmission (Standard for you out of the US folks).
@dave_riots5 жыл бұрын
Those are common in the Midwest.
@kenevanchik44785 жыл бұрын
Gasp! Heretic! Heretic I say!!
@ChildoftheKoRnf95 жыл бұрын
@@dave_riots So few in the west coast. Its ridiculous.
@antholito5 жыл бұрын
@@ChildoftheKoRnf9 Well there's your problem
@Rastadogg855 жыл бұрын
Miata's my man.
@mi6263 жыл бұрын
You have the best background of any video! You are like on vacation all day everyday with those kind of roads. The information you are giving is a bonus. I am simply enjoying the ride. Thanks.
@chrisbailey47595 жыл бұрын
In the early 80's I had a Mk1 Ford Escort, it came with factory fitted delayed action steering and breaking system, fun times indeed.
@trashcan96155 жыл бұрын
I don’t think we worry about fuel economy when we’re at 100% throttle.
@stevenly40855 жыл бұрын
Especially on something like e85 lol
@vitaminb48695 жыл бұрын
I drove a stock 2019 Mustang with 4cyl turbo engine. You couldn't tell it has a turbo. There was no lag or extra noise from the turbo. It didn't run some crazy temps and I was getting 24mpg on 87 fuel. Everything was so smooth, I loved driving that car, it was a lot of fun. Obviously 5.0 would be even more fun to drive, but now we're comparing apples to oranges.
5 жыл бұрын
Not sure 5.0 would be nicer to drive. Faster in straight but slowet in corners.
@SavingPvtBryan325 жыл бұрын
Cevair Zufer how is it slower in corners? Do you have any idea what your talking about or are you just a 4cyl mustang fanboy?
@Keestral5 жыл бұрын
@@SavingPvtBryan32 Well the 4pot is lighter but with modern tire and suspension tech, it doesn't really matter.
@tayweijie79825 жыл бұрын
That 4 cylinder turbo that ford made is actually quite powerful but be careful when driving with 87 fuel, u put full throttle u will destroy the engine due to knock and the engine will also be derated slightly when running 87(knock sensor)..... Try running it on 89 it be the best combo against cost of fuel and performance
@Texano5-05 жыл бұрын
Wait the ecoboost Mustang only gets 24mpg?? I hope you’re talking about city driving because it’s common now days for a V8 engine to get at LEAST 20mpg AVERAGE
@antor.j.medrano4 жыл бұрын
Only thing I love turbos in is ah diesel engine.
@gradywilson92134 жыл бұрын
Never been fond of turbo on a daily driver, and that's all I can afford daily driver, highly educational I am a big fan thank you.
@JoeHamelin5 жыл бұрын
And this is why I love my 3.6R Outback. Such smooth power whenever I ask for it.
@jaybee23445 жыл бұрын
My 2009 Volvo C70 with a 2.5 liter 5 cyl turbo with variable valve timing. It produces max torque at 1500 to about 4800. It pulls great off the line too. The auto makers know that MOST of the time the driver will spend of the time from idle to about mid rpm range. Engines with low to mid range torque are the best for street use. But in a drag race ( not often used) the high rpm hp and torque are best.
@richardschnoor69953 жыл бұрын
As a fellow ME ( PhD in 85) who has built 5 turbo installations from scratch I will generally say your videos are pretty good. & granted pressures are higher as you said but you forgot one big fact. Gas runs by burning ( unless detonating) & diesels run by explosion. Big difference with regards to shock loading the engine components!
@nthgth3 жыл бұрын
Could you explain? Seems like they both combust, creating pressure, pushing against a piston. Where's the important difference between burning and exploding here?
@thejoker62432 жыл бұрын
and what? it's not like all turbos use gas while all naturals are diesel, or is it? no idea what your point is about
@fishgeralding92242 жыл бұрын
@@nthgth a gas engine uses spark, at a specific moment, to ignite the charge. If the initial compression ratio is too high, it ignites the charge due to the heat created by compression, too soon. This results in the charge detonating before the piston reaches top dead center where it's supposed to fire. Therefore you have pressure trying to push the piston down, on it's way up. This, at the least results in "spark knock". At the worst, it "hand grenades" the engine. A diesel engine relies on compression detonation, through compression, to fire ,or detonate the charge. That's why a diesel can handle boost at much higher compression ratios.
@daleromney60624 жыл бұрын
I drive an F150 ecoboost with the twin turbo 6 cylinder engine. It has very little turbo lag. I have driven several other turbo'd vehicles and would in general agree with you, but the newer computer controlled systems are really good. The advantage is if you keep you foot out of it you can get the better mileage and when you feel frisky and jump on it, the engine responds with some awesome power and accel. BTW, as you know, you should always let your engine idle for a minute or so after driving to let the turbo(s) cool and avoid oil damage.
@eliasaggeli1225 Жыл бұрын
Friend could u explain me something? Lets say a turbo car makes full torque at 3500 rpm only and full power at 6000 rpm only. Between 3.5-6k rpm the turbo doesnt give its full work to the engine? Or from 3.5 to 6 it gives its full work?
@adim00lah Жыл бұрын
@@eliasaggeli1225 Between 3.5-6k the turbo will be at full boost.
@aaronschneider1581 Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure it's just awkwardly phrased, but you shouldn't idle your engine after driving. Before coming to a stop, you should go into rpm ranges where the turbo isn't active or as active and let the wind cool ot before coming to a full stop in your parking space. Atleast that's what I remember every youtuber talking about this stressed in particular. It's the wind that cools the charger while driving, not the engine running while standing.
@gottliebdee263 Жыл бұрын
@@aaronschneider1581 It's both. It also depends on how complex/efficient your cooling system is but ultimately, you need air rushing over the parts to be cooled and this is achieved TWO ways. 1. Natural airflow from vehicle movement. 2. Forced air cooling using a fan.
@red5rich Жыл бұрын
@@gottliebdee263 3. Idle to keeping the oil flowing to the turbo(s). Always use synthetic oil and don't fall for that "Blended oil" BS.
@CaramellsutraA5 жыл бұрын
name of the title should be: "5 Reasons You Should Buy A Twin-Turbocharged Car " due to the graph shown at 3:45 ;)
@Arakij115 жыл бұрын
Or even like a BMW with 3 turbochargers. One for low rpm, one for mid rpm and one for high rpm (I think it's a BMW but im not sure anymore)
@CaramellsutraA5 жыл бұрын
@@Arakij11 Yes, u mean 2012 BMW 550d series with a 3L Diesel tri-turbo 381HP. There´s already the 2017 version of this car with a quad-turbo built by Borg-Warner. A few more generations and this car has more turbochargers than cylinders haha
@Rob-3265 жыл бұрын
@@CaramellsutraA Why not a Lancia Delta S4? Rally car? Check. Group B? Check. Twincharged madness? Oh we got plenty of that.
@poisonpotato15 жыл бұрын
Why not just replace all cylinders with turbines. Bring back jet cars
@Rob-3265 жыл бұрын
@@poisonpotato1 Because you press the gas pedal today...and it actually accelerates tomorrow?
@voltecrules6245 жыл бұрын
“Do you want a delay in steering,”. Hahaha. A “delay in braking...no that would be incredibly dangerous.”
@andreasf30645 жыл бұрын
Those 2 things dont have anything to do with delayed power just a bad example
@dustinjames12685 жыл бұрын
@@andreasf3064 It's a fairly reasonable example Sometimes you might need to rely on that power to save your life What if you're about to get rear ended? With a huge turbo you may not get off the line fast enough
@jack765ful5 жыл бұрын
“This is America, I want it and I want it NOW!” Wait at the McD drive thru ordering line to place order. Wait to get to the pay window. After paying, wait to get the food. I think a little bit of turbo lag isn’t that bad.
@alexjolin25894 жыл бұрын
It’s more of a preference some people like a long hard hitting power band.
@faustin2894 жыл бұрын
@@andreasf3064 How is that a bad example? Having instant throttle response is as a big safety feature as a responsive brake.
@drakedbz4 жыл бұрын
I drive a 2018 wrx, and I can definitely say the throttle is basically an on/off switch. It's very difficult to drive the car "normally". The slightest pressure and you're hitting boost. Many modern cars have a more sensitive throttle than I'd like, but the wrx takes that to the extreme. My previous car had a mechanical throttle that gave you tons of room and a smoother response. I do like my car, but they could have tuned that throttle to be a bit less sensitive.
@SteveComputerFix Жыл бұрын
As a 21 WRX STi owner. I agree with this. It like either on or off. Unless you want to get up to 35 mph in like 15 seconds
@jeffbauer34255 жыл бұрын
After watching a few of these.....I'm convinced I should probably just take the bus. But honestly, my 2016 VW Jetta 1.4 tsi has virtually no lag . Quick for what it is.
@jonnyg442 жыл бұрын
Vw is how I learned to work on cars mine broke so much😂😂😂😂 so much my dad literally had no more time to help me fix it so I learned myself
@joewwilliams5 жыл бұрын
Tune in next week for "5 Reasons You Should Buy A Turbocharged Car"?
@nordic54905 жыл бұрын
Joe Williams yup. But... Jason already bashed turbos on another video.
@WeightyLemur5 жыл бұрын
Oh God, don't let vehicle virgins take over Jason 😥
@dwvw5 жыл бұрын
I have a 2.0 litre four cylinder that has 540 reasons.
@WeightyLemur5 жыл бұрын
@@dwvw So is one of the reasons the towing home when running at full boost for more than 15 minutes? Id say so too, more time with the family! 😍
@dwvw5 жыл бұрын
@@WeightyLemur 2016 Golf R, has 90,000 km's on it. Year round daily driver in Canada. Makes 540whp and runs 10.82 seconds in the 1/4 mile. Stock turbo did blow, but it's a known issue and I haven't had a problem with the car other than that.
@nerfthecows5 жыл бұрын
I love N/A cars....and turbo cars and supercharged cars.....if it's got wheels and makes me smile when I'm driving it then I love it...
@bwdrives3 жыл бұрын
Natural aspiration just gives you a nice connection to the car in my opinion. It’s probably the sound and the throttle response that makes you feel more in control
@doodlebob-t1t5 жыл бұрын
i still think its cool that a 2L 4 cylinder AWD turbo car can be just as fast as some V8s,
@alexk34693 жыл бұрын
But when you turbo charge a v8 it’s even faster
@jaysullivan83503 жыл бұрын
*Whispers* Audi A3 😉
@alexk34693 жыл бұрын
@@jaysullivan8350 not Audi A3 Audi rs3
@jaysullivan83503 жыл бұрын
@@alexk3469 nah, the RS3 comes with a 5 cylinder. The S and A’s come with 4
@jaysullivan83503 жыл бұрын
@@alexk3469 but trust me, the A3 is a really good performer for a basic car🤷🏾♂️
@lonniebeal60325 жыл бұрын
Love todays turbos, as far as throttle response, that's what the eco/sport/normal button is for. Turbo lag these days is very minimal, it's more like .5 secs later. And your torque curve depends on how big a turbo you are running. I had 3 turbos in the 90's, and one now, I'll take the turbo. And can also plug a chip giving me 48hp more, but I won't due to voiding my warranty. Your oil issue is a non issue, I talked to the manufacturer of my vehicle about the 3min warmup/cooldown I used to have to do in the 90's, they stated not really necessary as the oil lines are smaller pushing oil through faster. Only poor maintenance kills a turbo, and guess what, it kill any motor. Sound? I don't want anyone to hear me speeding.
@bufficliff89782 жыл бұрын
That's encouraging
@alsa4real Жыл бұрын
0.5s is still noticable lag
@2seep Жыл бұрын
@@alsa4real that’s only if you floor it out of nowhere
@realtruenorth Жыл бұрын
Nope as a technician myself, I see turbo gas engines with oil changes done right at 3k miles and the oil comes out black. My oil on a NA engine at 3k miles still comes out amber. What do you think all that abrasive burnt carbon in the oil does to engine tolerances? Not to mention the heat. You burn the candle at both ends, it burns out faster.
@confidentlocal8600 Жыл бұрын
@@alsa4real Agreed--very slow compared to my old NA Mazda that responded instantly.
@ronlanbacsa98135 жыл бұрын
Nice to know .. what about 5 reasons not to buy natural aspirated
@christopherhylton85695 жыл бұрын
Dont think so
@SKORPION117915 жыл бұрын
Wait until he's given a turbo car to advertise
@jaydunbar75385 жыл бұрын
He will, he always does when he does this style video. Most likely the next week or two.
@user-qx7tm5df8j5 жыл бұрын
there is likely no reason not to buy a NA car
@kalashnikov13435 жыл бұрын
There aren't any.
@michaeldavidson89714 жыл бұрын
Screw turbo-chargers! I want a car with an engine that will last 300,000 miles.
@rars0n3 жыл бұрын
Then you want an older VW 8v or 16v engine. My '91 Jetta GLI has 330k miles on it. The head has never been removed. Other potential alternatives: Ford 300 cubic inch straight-six, Toyota 1UZ-FE (there's at least one with over a million miles), and probably at least a couple others that I am forgetting about.
@prashanthacharya72893 жыл бұрын
2011 model 528i inline engine crossed already 4,50,000 km and still running
@ham73573 жыл бұрын
3.4 v6 2003 Tacoma I’ll be at 300k next oil change. I love that old truck but I do want something new…. I just can’t bring myself to blow the money when I already have a reliable vehicle that I’m not gonna sell
@rars0n3 жыл бұрын
@@ham7357 I'd keep the Taco until it dies... which will probably be a very long time!
@zipskippy4335 жыл бұрын
Turbos are great when you're cutting into another lane. You cut someone off but instead of accelerating into space, with the delay you make them hit their brakes, and just as they start getting mad you take off. Combine throttle by wire, turbos, and an automatic transmission hunting for gears, the look on other people's face is priceless.
@feez3575 жыл бұрын
Looks like your username was made specifically for this comment.
@BigUriel5 жыл бұрын
So the most recent car you've driven was built in 1992 or something?
@zipskippy4335 жыл бұрын
Sérgio Alves 2015 Ford Escape (turbo), 2017 Nissan Altima, 2018 Kia Soul. At least the Soul has a sport mode which seems to reduce the delay with kick down when maneuvering in city driving.
@BigUriel5 жыл бұрын
@@zipskippy433 They must all have some really shitty automatics because you can't tell me with a straight face that those cars have such bad turbo lag that you nearly crash into people in traffic. Or maybe you just can't drive the cars properly, you don't floor the throttle in 6th gear at 1200rpm on a small turbocharged engine. Do you americans realize that that in Europe like half the cars on the road are turbocharged? An no people don't crash them because of the turbo lag, and yes they do last hundreds of thousands of miles too.
@alrod95353 жыл бұрын
@@zipskippy433 You're exactly the guy I like to have fun in with my Nitrous car :) Good luck with your so called driving style. Sounds to me that you'll be the one getting mad. LOLOLOL
@EvLSpectre5 жыл бұрын
Biggest reason to get a turbo is because exhaust enters it, witchcraft happens, and you go faster. OH also.... SSSSSSSTTTTTTUUUUUUUUUSTUSTUSTUSTUSTUTSU
@wyattlarrick32465 жыл бұрын
My Cummins 5.0 doesn't have a BOV though, just a waste gate.
@marquezceballos50075 жыл бұрын
God I was waiting for this.
@ArchimaXed5 жыл бұрын
@@wyattlarrick3246 No need for a BOV... the compressor surge is enough sound for me! BOV is just for showing off
@SI0AX5 жыл бұрын
@@ArchimaXed Most Diesel engines(cummins) don't even have throttle bodies so a BOV won't do a damn thing. A BOV is to prevent the turbo air stalling the blades and making then spin backwards(not efficient) when the *throttle body* is closed. To visualize the importance of a BOV for efficiency, Imagine coming off the gas and your tires start spinning the opposite direction and then you have to accelerate to get them to stop spinning the wrong way and start spinning properly. That is kind of the effect you get with a turbo without a BOV. Again most diesels don't have a throttle body so it's useless on them.
@PanameraTurboSEHybrid5 жыл бұрын
@@wyattlarrick3246 Maybe it does have a BOV, it probably has a hose routed to the air intake hose to redirect that extra air back into the intake system. Many OEM turbo vehicles are like that.
@MrCapi555 жыл бұрын
Just keep climbing and see what happens. My Country, MÉXICO, almost all of it is surrounded by two Sierras (Mountainous Chains, also called). For leaving México City, you have to climb Hill & Mountain roads in between 8,500 to 9,500 feet. Then You see the Turbocharged vehicles "waving goodbyes" to Normal Aspirated ones.
@TheSingleTrucker5 жыл бұрын
You are correct, sir! Forced air induction ftw!
@404nobrakes5 жыл бұрын
Even at 5000ft, I can feel my old NA engine lagging. I’ll put the pedal to metal and it’ll feel like I’m barely pushing.
@MrCapi555 жыл бұрын
@@TheSingleTrucker Thank You, sir.
@MrCapi555 жыл бұрын
@@404nobrakes Right sir. Mexico City is at 7,340 ft. elevation. We non-turbocharged drivers start climbing with a detriment of a 22% less power (following the old rule of thumb of -10% power for every 1,000 meters (3280 ft.) of elevation (7,340 / 328= 22.4% ("a la Jason style" Hahaha!)) Thank You, Sir.
@volvojohn90363 жыл бұрын
IN THE 1980"S TURBOS WERE STRICTLY OIL COOLED AND WERE REPLACED (TYPICALLY @50-60,000 MILES ON VOLVOS) WITH TURBOS (NEWER FACTORY DESIGN) THAT HAD A WATER JACKET AROUND THE TURBO AND WE NO LONGER HAD COKING (OIL BURNED TO CARBON) ON THE BEARINGS, DOUBLED THE LIFE AND THE BOOST.
@Westcoastwindsurf5 жыл бұрын
Great video! Most modern manufacturers though, use twin turbos or even twin charging (turbo and supercharger) to give you better response with minimal turbo lag. I still like my NA v8 :)
@rjdavis75032 жыл бұрын
The ecoboost uses twin scrolls, One turbo housing.
@mariokajin5 жыл бұрын
Naturally aspirated engines are good if they have enough displacement (V8 or more), but for the regular low displacement engines, well they are really bad. No torque no power, you have to rev it to the infinity and then some just to obtain a mediocre performance. And about the sound, you obviously haven’t heard the Pagani Huayra. And about waiting for the torque to come up from turbos, on the naturally aspirated engine you have to wait until it comes to the top rpms to get some and in most of the times it comes out with power boost too and then you have both to manage it’s like the turbo engine of the old. About the efficiency I’ll give you that one because you are correct when you talk about petrol engines but when you build a Diesel engine with the turbo in mind then you get a pretty nice result. Just to make a case I drive a small turbocharged diesel engine car with only 1.6 l displacement and only 120 hp of power and 300 Nm of torque and in a car that weighs 1400 kg(do your own conversions). And I can travel on the highway comfortably in the 6th gear well over the speed limit and with plenty of reserve for an emergency overtake. Meanwhile I consume less than 6 l of diesel per 100 km. And you can hear the engine barely. Okay?
@GUITARTIME20245 жыл бұрын
Huh? Some good V6s out there.
@digital07855 жыл бұрын
Stop with your logic
@warpdriveby2 жыл бұрын
I've loved turbocharged engines after buying my first car after college, it was a Saab 9-3 aero, and at 205hp/230lbft and relatively low weight of 2850lbs it was quick in 2001.
@ReggaeWise4 ай бұрын
But that is a real turbo
@warpdriveby4 ай бұрын
@@ReggaeWise ...I think I agree, but I'm not sure what you mean by "real", are you referring to Porsche's Taycan "Turbo"? That was a terrible marketing move, imho, but they're badass cars. I've owned a 00 986 S, and replaced it with an '07 997 S. (Carrera S if the specific models are not familiar to you).
@johannmckraken93994 жыл бұрын
Since 1994 I’ve owned turbocharged cars. You learn to adjust to lag. My current car has twin turbos and lag is practically zilch.
@newFaction645 жыл бұрын
“And finally, point numbe-OH OH OH OH REEIIILEEEEEEY”
@johncoleman53884 жыл бұрын
I like that he emphasizes "delay". I do not know about others here, but I presume it take 1.0 seconds or less to reach a turbochargers rpm power band. It really depends on the turbocharger setup. NA motors are awesome, but if you want the crazier power numbers you need forced induction, unless you happen to be the happy owner of a 9.0L viper or high end Ferrari.
@Poverty_Welder2 жыл бұрын
High end Ferrari? Like their is any other kind of Ferrari
@jeffkoe3104 жыл бұрын
The Ford 1.5 L Ecoboost engine in my Fusion seems to be pretty good with instant boost, and it gets really good gas mileage when you’re easy on the throttle.
@victorgirouard15434 жыл бұрын
This guy talks out his butt have of what he said about turbo engines is dead wrong!
@victorgirouard15434 жыл бұрын
@reshi p you are wrong I work on a fleet of over 30 Ford f1 50 with the 3.5 ecoboost and 4 have well over 300k and the rest have over 200k on them all running like new.i have been in the field over 20 years change the oil often with good oil and they will last! So next time before you comment on something you clearly don't know crap about do us all a favor just go ahead and stick your foot in your mouth! And the best part they all have original engines and turbos imagine that.
@victorgirouard15434 жыл бұрын
Plus most turbo engines make full torque downn low 2k to 2500 rpm and carry full torque to redline so what the problem with that? Full torque development down low to recline is not a problem to me.
@tr3ynag4ta3 жыл бұрын
I agree with all but point 5, I put one on a RB26, instant happiness 💯👏🏿 reliability is a *MASSIVE* factor for me, I want the car (especially if its one of my favorites) to last as long as possible, and if its boosted, then the longevity is reduced.
@youngtschakaloff5 жыл бұрын
Intercoolers really solve the knock problem. Its not that much of an argument in my opinion.
@1barnet15 жыл бұрын
It still is, a turbo is a ristriction in the exhaust meaning you'd still get higher temperatures at the exhaust valves. There is a reason mazda has to drop compression in their only turbo engine.
@dizzywow5 жыл бұрын
@@1barnet1 Because there is more effective compression, with forced induction. Not because the exhaust valves are hotter.
@jaymie_denardo65564 жыл бұрын
You should do a video on blow off valves and where to mount them. There has been a debate on mounting the blow off valve in the hot side piping vs the cold side piping and I think a lot of people would really love to hear what an engineer has to to say about the issue. Regardless if there is no difference. Or if there is a minimal difference.
@wwiking80552 жыл бұрын
It depends where the air related sensors are in the car
@sethschober45963 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, gotta love the immediate throttle response of a good NA v8. Around 7:10 I think you may have a misunderstanding though. I don’t think the lower Static Compression Ratio (total volume at BDC vs total volume at TDC) manufacturers quote for turbo engines will actually hurt combustion efficiency. The reason being, the engine sees total, or Dynamic Compression Ratio (air density immediately before combustion vs atmospheric air density). Even though turbo engines tend to use lower SCRs (e.g., 9:1 instead of 11:1), the air has already been compressed by the turbo before it enters the combustion chamber. I think that would make up the difference. After all, the final pressure and chamber surface temperature right before the spark ignites is your limiting factor for a given octane fuel. In fact, using an intercooler will effectively compress the air further, enabling you to even get a higher DCR with a turbo engine than an NA engine. However, most of what I’ve just said goes out the window if a manufacturer’s tuning program cuts boost at low load to improve fuel economy.
@joopie99aa2 жыл бұрын
I think thermal efficiency is mostly a function of the compression ratio (or decompression) during the power stroke. For ideal efficiency, you want the air in the cylinder to be at ambient temperature and pressure at the end of the power stroke. Any additional pressure and temperature is dumped through the exhaust and wasted (a turbo recovers some of that energy for powering forced induction, but that isn't power to the wheels). This is the idea behind the Atkinson cycle: a larger ratio is used during the expansion stroke than during the compression stroke, allowing the air in the cylinder to come closer to ambient pressures and temperatures, leading to greater efficiency. Forced induction and the resulting lower compression ratios do the opposite: the pressure and temperature at the end of the power stroke are increased, so there is more wasted energy, so lower thermal efficiency.
@confidentlocal8600 Жыл бұрын
@@joopie99aa I have a Toyota V6 that runs in Atkinson mode at low load. It's a great compromise that gives real fuel economy benefit. I much prefer it to a small turbo engine or clumsy cylinder deactivation.
@rogerhinman54275 жыл бұрын
Not a fan of turbos simply because of the lag, complexity, and reliability issues. I'll take a bigger engine and fuel bill any day.
@DAN007thefoxx15 жыл бұрын
With an overdrive transmission my 'ol Mustang would probably get 25MPG on the highway (with no engine mods whatsoever and with the original engine).
@XtbInfernos5 жыл бұрын
Roger Hinman turbo lag isn’t that bad anymore thanks billet compressor and turbine wheels, increased exhaust gas speed and layout, the bearings used and the such, they’re not really that complicated and they’re pretty reliable, my 01’ Audi S4 has never had the turbos maintained or replaced in almost 200k miles, and that’s almost 2 decades old, they’re honestly pretty efficient, not really complicated and they don’t really break unless you beat the piss out of them and even then you can beat on them but take care of them with proper heating and cooling cycles and change your oil.
@PanameraTurboSEHybrid5 жыл бұрын
Most Turbo vehicles are gas guzzlers too.
@DAN007thefoxx15 жыл бұрын
@@PanameraTurboSEHybrid When most people get a turbo car they always floor it so worse gas milage overall.
@nordic54905 жыл бұрын
Roger Hinman wake up mate. All commercial vehicles and heavy machinery are turbo for efficiency and reliability. Turbo trucks typically go 1M kms between rebuilds. All 2019 turbo cars have 11:1 compression ratio hence great low rpm throttle response. I have a factory 4L turbo Barra, and the torque @ 2000rpm is amazing.
@vinniecorleone625 жыл бұрын
Solid points, as an owner of several turbo cars in the past I learned quickly the motors don't last & the obvious reliability issues, no thanks.
@ACK885 жыл бұрын
I've heard this before but never experienced it. All my turbo charged cars have gone well past 200k miles. 2 Saabs and an Audi. Maybe certain brands have quality control issues or maybe just bad luck.
@vinniecorleone625 жыл бұрын
@@ACK88 All in how one drives them too, I sadly drove mine hard so the blame is mostly on me.
@johnlopez94205 жыл бұрын
I have a turbo diesel (VW 2.0 TDi) and I must say its an amazing engine, efficiency power and torque. I know a friend who has 1 at 500,000km already
@topo5205 жыл бұрын
Mercedes build the best Biturbo engine thanks to NANOSLIDE TECHNOLOGY. I love my GLC43 AMG with 75k miles and I abuse it daily!
@nordic54905 жыл бұрын
vinniecorleone62 you are doing something wrong mate. All commercial engines are turbo and turbo trucks typically go 1M kms between rebuilds.
@jdesigns72395 жыл бұрын
Can we get like a 5 minute video of you just making turbo noises? Thanks.
@ShattuckEsteban5 жыл бұрын
Jay G that turbo sound was spot on!
@feez3575 жыл бұрын
He could be driving any crap car with no sound and doing the whole motor / turbo thing in real time!
@Rob-3265 жыл бұрын
@@feez357 Engine sound given by Donut Media. Turbo by Engineering Explained... Yeah...you know which Donut Media video I am talking about... The Dodge Demon vid... With the BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! (Dodge Demon engine sound)
@GH-oi2jf3 жыл бұрын
I’m glad I bought my truck when I did. It was my last chance to get one with no turbo, no auto transmission, no cylinder deactivation or stop/start nonsense, no push-button start, no complex infotainment system with gps maps and such. It has a radio and cruise control.
@Lilregpack4 жыл бұрын
i honestly like the sound of a honda 4 cylinder, they sound noticeably different than any other car manufactures 4 cylinders
@gingersquatch98444 жыл бұрын
As the owner of a 97 Civic that will be getting the "mini me" head swap along with a turbo and supporting mods, I can't agree more!
@Fi-hu7oj3 жыл бұрын
It sounds the worst lool
@Got_Boost3 жыл бұрын
That’s because vtec
@jayflo7143 жыл бұрын
@@Got_Boost no that’s because honda originated as a motorcycle company and designs engines similar in that they rev higher than other cars and give power on top of the powerband. That’s why they sound different and have to be rev high to perform, but that’s why people think civic drivers can’t drive because the car is always screaming as designed.
@jestronixhanderson98983 жыл бұрын
I drove a ZM3 and that engine was one of the nicest NA engines I’ve seen. Power everywhere, it was way more fun than a quick 2 litre turbo.
@gogopowerrangers1 Жыл бұрын
236 kw and only 350 nm of torque from a 3.2 6 cylinder isn't very impressive though, Turbo it and it'll have properly 100 kw more and double the torque, there's nothing N/A wise you can do to match that power.
@thegrmcrckr488 Жыл бұрын
No such thing as a quick 2 litre turbo...I'm thinking you don't really know what quick is..... Not being mean, Im just saying.
@mikejenzen3075 жыл бұрын
I like my 2.7 turbo in my ford pickup, good power, good economy and proven reliability. You didn't mention the larger pumping losses in a larger engine.
@davepianist848 ай бұрын
I've no idea where are you driving at but it's a driver's paradise! Thanks for the video I was so jealous of turbo cars until now 💪
@eh23414 жыл бұрын
Color me JEALOUS! That Lexus is gorgeous and I agree, it sounds awesome.
@ralexander94955 жыл бұрын
Saying this half jokingly as a Honda fan:" Just get a vtec 4 cylinder and have the worst of both worlds"
@BaddaBigBoom4 жыл бұрын
My (2006) Subaru Forester has a "downsized turbocharger" ...which is nice to know. It also has a _recirculating_ blowoff valve and the previous owner replaced the intercooler with a larger STI one, so temperature should be handled a bit better.
@teop78874 жыл бұрын
I have a '19 F150 3.5 Ecoboost. I love it. In Eco Mode with the 36 gal. tank, I get 600+ miles on the highway, and in Sport Mode, it's an absolute beast.
@Miles79555 жыл бұрын
Missed 6 cylinder engines. Some of them sound absolutely amazing, regardless of being forced induction or not.
@happity5 жыл бұрын
I'd like more i6's available
@adamc84095 жыл бұрын
I always prefered na engines with my builds. I prefer less fail points when it can be avoided.
@holycrapchris5 жыл бұрын
Fewer... :-)
@Addison05265 жыл бұрын
But an NA engines in and of itself is a fail 😂 jp
@nordic54905 жыл бұрын
Adam c for the same engine size an torque, turbos are vastly more reliable then a highly strung na. All commercial vehicles and heavy machinery are turbo for a reason. Turbo trucks typically go 1M kms between rebuilds. SC is much harder on engines.
@apexseal28115 жыл бұрын
2:20 *Meme* -What do we want? Power! -When do we want it! Right now! (Queen's *'I Want it All'* playing in the back)
@hyena-chase21763 жыл бұрын
In Europe we like small engines with turbos,and they are fine as long as you service the car, my last small turbo engine had 160000,and was still strong.