Engineers React to Apple Vision Pro

[@ABYSSHeadphones]

We talk about some of your comments in a follow-up video, kzbin.info/www/bejne/p2O1iJp-f7SZhZo

[@jotwee63]

You guys talking about high prices is quite ironic 😂

[@gregfrllo]

well they're engineers, yes it's expensive but it wouldn't be a huge problem for them i think

[@MrSamPhoenix]

Exactly lol

[@toututu2993]

Headphones >>>>>>>>> wearable headset that can do everything

[@ABYSSHeadphones]

@@toututu2993 High Performance Headphone + Do Everything Headset= 🤩🤩🤩

[@alsoulmusic]

I’ve have never checked out any of their products. I am amazed they can say the the Apple Vision Pro is too expensive when they sale a product that lists for 1000 dollars more. I love headphones but that price is insane.

[@Joaquin_D]

I guess that a headset with tens of cameras, 2 SOCs with billions of transistors, two +4K screens, and maybe millions of lines of code can’t be more expensive that a headphone with 2 drives and a cable.

[@michaelherron362]

Next version will be on a single die.

[@Mandragara]

Economies of scale and not "Made and Assembled in the USA" like ABYSS. Also the Apple Vision Pro is 110% selling at a loss to encourage adoption. The thing is a whole high-end laptop.

[@michaelherron362]

@@Mandragara an interesting hypothesis but do you have some sort of evidence?

[@Mandragara]

@@michaelherron362 Evidence for it selling above cost? Look at the parts it has, the chips, the screens, the software R&D etc - then compare the hardware to a similarly specced Macbook Pro. This is a super expensive, yet still subsidized product. They want to prioritize adoption so they can start making a profit on the Vision Pro 2 and 3 etc.

[@utubekullanicisi]

@@michaelherron362 Probably not, it doesn't make sense to increase the cost of the baseline M-series for a whole bunch of digital signal processing capabilities that other products who use the baseline M-series don't need.

[@Brendon471]

From a hardware perspective it really is insane. It's basically like buying a top end MacBook Pro (uses the same M2 chip) with dual 4K micro OLED displays that have the equivalent number of pixels of SIX Pro Display XDR's, and is pushing that with close to zero detectable latency (this solves the nausea-inducing effect caused by many VR headsets). The user interface, at least according to KZbinrs/reporters who got to demo it, is said to be extremely intuitive with perfect hand and eye tracking that feels "magical". They also said that the extremely high resolution displays make using it as a monitor replacement actually possible since text is very sharp and legible, which can't be said for other headsets like the Meta Quest Pro (tried it myself, was bad). Lastly, reporters from The Verge mentioned that watching movies in the headset is "incredible" with 3D movies feeling exactly like you're in a movie theater except bigger and with better quality displays (the dual 4K displays in the headset can hit 5000 nits of brightness). Based on all of that it definitely sounds like it's going to be a hit product. Even things that I thought were issues at first, such as the two hour battery life, aren't a problem in reality. This is because the battery pack has a USB-C port on it that can plug into the same charger at my desk that I use for my MacBook, meaning battery life at my desk or couch will never be a concern. When I'm out and about I'll buy 2-3 extra packs to keep things going for longer, such as on a plane. As a software engineer, this truly is going to be such an amazing product for my work and for developing new apps and experiences that I had never even dreamt about. Cannot wait to get this and will absolutely be buying it on day 1.

[@ABYSSHeadphones]

Absolutely. Let's just hope enough developers move ahead with funding phenomenal software to make this a rich ecosystem.

[@Brendon471]

@@ABYSSHeadphones I think they will. New platforms like this with all new possibilities are super fun to work on from a dev perspective. Truly cannot wait to see what people create for this. Exciting times ahead!

[@pedrofonseca4413]

"3000 way to much, 3500 wow", say the guys that make extremely less complex products that are sold for more than that :)

[@benjamincraig7198]

was about to say, lol

[@MrSamPhoenix]

Exactly

[@toututu2993]

Not fair comparing to a headphones that only make one thing to a device that does everything

[@ABYSSHeadphones]

The comments we made on price have nothing to do with the product itself, or its cost to manufacture. High prices severely limit consumer adoption, and a product like this generally needs good consumer adoption to be well supported by developers. I personally want something like this to succeed, so my comment was really just concern for the battle Apple will likely face convincing consumers to buy this. I'm EXTREMELY interested in getting one for myself either way... -Eric

[@benjamincraig7198]

@@ABYSSHeadphones so I guess the difference is Apple is a huge company doing a niche product where as Abyss is a niche company doing niche products. So my strange question is how much do you think Apple would/could sell a Diana V2 for if they suddenly had the capability?

[@eastmanwebb5477]

Regarding the price, I think some context is needed. When the first handheld cellphone was released, it cost $4,000, which is $11,000 in 2023 money. What Apple is asking is quite reasonable for a first generation spatial computing system.

[@DarkFire515]

I agree that what was revealed a couple of days ago is probably a 'generation zero' product that's not really intended to be a wide market consumer device. Gen 0 is probably aimed at software developers and early corporate adopters. It wouldn't surprise me if we see a 2nd or 3rd generation device that's aimed at the wider consumer market and at a $2K - 2.5K price point.

[@davidlemieux615]

These guys keep claiming the Vision Pro is expensive but… Microsoft HoloLens 2 is 3500$ USD, VARJO has three 1990€, 3645€ and 6495€ that’s 2132$, 3926$ and 6996$ in USD… now THATS expensive! And the specs on these two brands seem to fall FAR short of the Vision Pro. Guys, I don’t understand you.

[@ABYSSHeadphones]

It's a classic dilemma. The hardware looks amazing, but consumers need to buy it or else developers won't spend time developing for it. Consumers are going to primarily care about what it can do at the time of purchase, and won't buy it if it doesn't deliver enough value. Without the sales, developers will struggle to justify spending millions developing software for it. The objection with the price has absolutely nothing to do with the hardware, or comparable, its just the concern over limited consumer adoption resulting in this being just another headset people think is cool but never purchase. -Eric

[@notaregard]

@@ABYSSHeadphones I think enough people will buy it at $3500 and developers will see the potential for future sales.

[@vernearase3044]

Y'all are looking at this wrong - it's not an AR/VR headset - it's an Apple Computer with a spacial interface, the same way that a Mac is an Apple computer with a WIMP interface or an iPhone/iPad is an Apple computer with a multitouch interface. Apple Vision Pro is a full-on computer with _can_ be used as an AR or VR headset, but that's really a subset of its capabilities. Its inputs are gestures, eyeballs, and voice and its output is 3D video and spacial audio, but at its heart it's yet another Apple computer. You can run the applications you know on it and it deeply integrates into the Apple ecosystem. Y'all sitting around a table talking about it - maybe even without understanding what it is - reminds me of readings at Passover with the rabbis sitting around a table drinking Manischewitz trying to one up each other talking up the impacts of the plagues in Egypt. Methinks you ought to try it before you evaluate it, and maybe then you'll have some basis for the discussion. Say _Hi_ to Rabbi Jose for me … 😁

[@tomlee45]

I think people are looking at this wrong - just compare the bill of materials inside the vision pro, unique manufacturing equipment and tools that have to be made. Yes 3,500 is alot of money and it's not for the average consumer by a mile. If your macbook air is costing 1299, then you add micro-oleds which are not even available at high volume - if yields are super low then you are spending more cost per die on a wafer. This is at a minimum 2000 product. 3000 isn't that far off with all things considered. Just because Apple is the richest and most profitable company in the world shouldn't be a reason for a business to sell at a loss. As technology does get better over the years, manufacturing is optimized, these prices will start to reduce to a saturated value that is more friendly for consumers.

[@Aggie4life77]

The question is can another tech company launch a competitor product at a lower price that will also offer an exact experience as far as performance. I would say no and this is why. A device like this is absolutely all about the experience and that experience is a combination of specs, ecosystem, attention to detail and trust. To have all of that and mail it at a cheaper price is damn near impossible at this point. I say all of this to justify that price tag Apple has. The only AR/VR set that comes close to matching what Vision Pro does is Varjo XR-3. That thing cost 6k and you have to plug it into a computer. There have been several leaks that this headset was the benchmark for Apple, not Quest or These other $500 sets focused on gaming.

[@Mandragara]

The question is, will the Apple Vision Pro let consumers do things that they actually want to do? Will I *want* to wear big goggles to watch a movie, do online meetings and emails etc?

[@notaregard]

@@Mandragara Yes.. obviously you will be able to do those things lol. I'm sure there will be a few things you can't, but not much.

[@Mandragara]

@@notaregard But will you WANT to do those things? Will watching a 3hr movie with massive goggles on be a good experience?

[@notaregard]

@@Mandragara From people who tried it - many said emphatically - yes. It depends on the person. Some find the Quest Pro possible to work in and enjoy watching movies in it... for me it is too janky, the passthrough isn't good enough, and the resolution is too poor. I am pretty sure that I will want to. It seems like people who tried it were mostly sold on that experience as well.

[@Mandragara]

@@notaregard Are the people who have tried it the sort of people that like every Apple product? I'm curious to see how the LinusTechTipses of the world review it

[@bilalmotley1999]

Great convo

[@user-gx1uj1lt9b]

Even at $3500 I'll bet there will be very long wait list to buy one. Apple is rumored to only be able to produce about 900K units the first year. Just the developers alone will probably purchase about 100k+ units. Apple has billions of affluent and enthusiastic customers around the world. There simply won't be enough supply to meet the demand. This is a company that sells $1500 iPhones and $4500 MacBook Pros with zero issues. When I bought my $5000 M1 Max MBP it took 6 months to get it. $3500 for a product with this much technology is a steal. The Varjo XR-3 is twice as expensive and does less than the Vision Pro.

[@xanderrevels-velez622]

they talked about games available at the start, have any of you used the headset? very disappointed with the options without using it.

[@ABYSSHeadphones]

We come at it from our ecosystem as music and occasional movie enthusiasts. Time will tell how it plays out for others. These are one of those new devices where no one has had enough time to appreciate it's overall capabilities, will need to live with the thing.

[@Sparkveibe]

AppleVisionPro has a M2. So for me it is a mac on your head with 4K screens and all these. So, I believe even at 3500 it will be a big product. I was so excited I did a playful video on it and have some more ads for it to upload: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h6LNo2iJmpmjiq8

[@surfntrucks]

Apple is on to something with the Vision Pro. Here I am, seeing this channel for the first time, just to hear them talk about the Apple vision pro. I've never been this interested in VR/AR in my life. I can't wait to see this thing in real life. ABYSS, the Vision Pro uses a middle strap to make the Vision Pro more comfortable to wear. Make ABYSS Headphones be that middle start that adds comfort to the Vision Pro and the best audio quality for the Vision Pro. The middle engineer touched on it around 5:30. The Vision Pro doesn't have to offer the best audio. Just the best visuals. Let an audio company like yours do the heavy lifting. Make the strap, that's actually Abyss Headphones. It's just an engineering problem but you guys can do it.

[@KreAtorGames]

Apple has an amazing audio engineering team. You can see it through every one of their devices. Airpods are the most popular headphones. The MacBook’s have always had superior sound over every other competitor, watching people unbox and try out a Mac for the first time, you always see a reaction to it. The iPad sounds great and super loud, as well as the HomePod and HomePod Mini are amazing sounding, great bass too. From what I’ve heard from reviewers trying it on, it sounds really good, and still allows you to be connected to the world around you as you’re not plugging something directly into your ear. And apparently people around you can hear them much at all, it’s sort’ve like wearing headphones and blasting them. The positional audio and beam forming microphones tech that Apple created works phenomenally.

[@egregs]

they do have spatial audio speakers built in. it's just not noise cancelling. that's why the person on the plane watching a movie used AirPods in the demo.

[@amaly76]

"it's very expensive.." the irony all Abyss headphones start at $3000 and up lol.

[@iwantthatcom]

We are in a period when people paying more than $10K over MSRP forToyotas and Fords, I won't be surprise if this Apple Vision Pro becomes a hit, what with 0% equal monthly installment payments on Apple Pay

[@bruxi78230]

Exactly 24 months no interest makes this device around $150 a month. Chump change for most people in the US. The problem will be getting your hands on a Vision Pro in year one. Later on they will be able to produce them in higher volume.

[@dannymartial7997]

They never use the word “retina” once during the presentation or promo website. Which worries me that we’ll be able to see the individual pixels. The resolution number doesn’t mean anything if we don’t know the strength of the magnifying lens on the headset

[@marqusee]

Gaze only inputs is rad for stationary panels, but when it comes to locomotion its very very limited. How the heck is apple going to deal with that?

[@HeavyMetalBluegrass]

I'm excited for this technology. I believe in 5 years this will be mainstream. Samsung engineers are probably working overtime now.

[@PSy84]

Samsung will never have the support of developers sadly. They however try to just sell it as common VR headset for movies

[@productjoe4069]

I’m pretty sure Apple are making a loss on each unit to spur the software market. The nearest competitor (spec-wise) is the Varjo XR-3 at twice the price, and I’ve heard rumour that Apple are getting only a 20% pass rate at QA. I’m looking at this as an alternative productivity tool that I could use in places I’d use a desktop or laptop. I could get rid of my desk setup and make more room in my house. Think about how this would combine with tech like Microsoft Copilot too, and the UX possibilities there as we move beyond walled apps.

[@timothyfreeseha4056]

Keep thinking guys.This is how stuff happens!

[@mauzouq]

Just imagine gaming company produce war or zombies game and device like gun plus something you sit in it with belt catching you moving ground to run in ur position will be next level

[@Tolg]

Kind of think it’s funny the guy in the middle kept saying there is no audio module on the Apple Vision Pro. Almost every reviewer said it fantastic speakers.

[@kevinisawake]

The HIFI side of things - that is awesome. Just make it bro. Make it.

[@christopherstreet2214]

I think apples logic is that this is a computer and they will create something a bit cheaper later

[@Williamb612]

what many fail to understand is that the Vision Pro is not a VR headset…it is and AR/VR headset, and iPad Pro which enables you to: create content, consume content, share content…enabling you to let go of your Phone, iPad, MacBook, Airpods pro should you choose. Completely stand alone multi-functional spatial computing device…look at it this way and 3499 is a bargain ps: they most certainly did talk about and show gaming

[@phils_arcade]

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[@Werdna12345]

Wonder if he has tried Sony psvr2

[@mikiyastsegaye9590]

My brother in Christ, you’re selling $4000 headphones! You guys serious about the AVP price complaints? 😂

[@ABYSSHeadphones]

Will have a follow-up video on this for Friday June 23rd.

[@turbomustang84]

And it's still cheaper than Abyss Headphones lol

[@toututu2993]

In which it can do better plus a lot more lol

[@dubsondubs]

I would ask this question: If Apple made a replica of the 1266, how much would they charge?

[@pumpuppthevolume]

what the f r u talking about it has the audio built in if it didn't that would be a terrible mistake for friction

[@ABYSSHeadphones]

Thanks for watching to the end.😊

[@pumpuppthevolume]

@ABYSS Headphones this was close to the end of the video and no they r not replaceable...... but no one can miss it has speakers I must have misunderstood something ....it's similar to the index headphones but being to the side of the ears will impact the experience somewhat

[@ABYSSHeadphones]

@@pumpuppthevolume It’s my slang, I meant they didn’t have any real speakers:)

[@pumpuppthevolume]

@ABYSS Headphones have u tried the index it can be really great quality sound .... being off ear reducing heat and putting reality first makes a lot of sense for the vision pro

[@anthonycraig274]

It’s an iPhone sized dual processor M2 Mac with 9 camera, sensors up to the hill, 3 screens two of which are 4K monitor. Has headphones and a OLED screen to tell everyone if you are acting attention to them. Honestly guys, you are complaining about price is pretty silly. Especially when we look at it’s equivalence Varjo XR-3 that cost $7000.

[@tderuvo]

guys, the first Motorola brick phone was $7k in today's money

[@nelsonang]

my gut feel is that apple wants this to be more than VR/AR… they are calling it spatial computing… looks like it’s going to be a wait and see…

[@ABYSSHeadphones]

I agree. Either way, they know they can add value to the product today without external support by doing this, and presumably they hope it will eventually have a rich ecosystem. -Eric

[@nelsonang]

@@ABYSSHeadphones yes Eric :) looks like the first line is cast and let's see what fish comes... pretty amazing how some of the tech has actually been trialled in smaller products or peripheral functions before they all came together in this headset... that said, the puny driver surely can't do spatial audio justice!

[@ScottOstr]

To do VR right you need the next level apps that require a backend infrastructure that doesn't exist yet

[@jawanova72]

With all the processing power and at minimum 3 screens all running simultaneously, my concern would be heat dissipation. Fans? Vents? I have bought several VR headsets during lockdown and this was an issue that caused abrupt shutdown.

[@ABYSSHeadphones]

For sure. Let's hope they get it sorted by the time it ships... -Eric

[@darrengoldwyn1917]

these three will buy it straight away. expected analysis not price fud. ended it after 2 min.

[@ThepurposeofTime]

Did that guy literally say the audio should be seperate from the headset? 😳🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 "Its just a fancy mouse" 🤣😭my ribs!!🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@canyoucatchme138]

You guys keep talking about gaming. All the conversation about gaming is not going to be compelling from Apple’s POV. Apple is all about improving experiences in life, the overall experience in life. That is why every device they have have so many use cases. They are not going to create something just for games. They want their devices to be used in organisations, daily life etc. As a professional adult, I have little time for games, even if I love games. Apple’s Vision Pro gives me goosebumps, I am thinking so many ways I can use this device in my daily life. That is the compelling story - improving productivity, improving my life overall.

[@The-Singularity-M87]

In regards to technical/any other iterations in the year 2023. Private companies, the military, if they produce a working model and make it first gen for sale or use for the public in the year 2023, The information age, there is no reason for them not to have already developed many vetted generations, iterated from the same product. that they put for sale already. There is no reason for a single iteration to only exist with supercomputers, AI, dynamic world communication. All I'm saying is they already have generation 2 and 3 ready at the same time that they give you generation 1. For example GPT4, everybody's awaiting GPT5 but there's no way open AI doesn't already have GPT-5 GPT6 and GPT7 iterated enough to be a usable product it just wouldn't make good business sense to give everything all at once. I hope you like that pun.

[@tomluptowski]

expensive? relative to what? A mini M2 pro with a studio display cost about as much. It's a full blown computer with the cutting edge of full blown immersive AR/VR display. It's not a toy for gamers or for home theater enthusiasts it's a highly advanced productivity tool for professional designers, engineers, developers, science and medical research, and more. I think it's a limited imagination that can't conceive how ground breaking this technology is going to be. Oh but it's 3500 bucks, yeah and 25 years ago people were paying tens of thousands for SGI and Spark workstations.

[@thatspiritualhumane]

Yeah, audio is a deal breaker for me.. I mean who'd ever use a cheap laggy lossy $250 wireless Airpods when using an immersive $3499 AR VR headset ! Apple needs to do something about this.

[@ABYSSHeadphones]

Given their headband design we can handle the audio, only need a way to connect to it.

[@andthen0170]

Sounds like there could be some aftermarket solutions to this 👍

[@hasanahmad]

looks like these engineers completely missed the point. its an AR device and you were talking from a VR perspective.

[@tylerbranch7524]

Let's be honest it's kind of obnoxious to wear these in public, which would be the best way to promote augmented reality, so I don't think it's going to end up being a very common product even among the higher class of citizens.

[@whodatguy8213]

Why does everyone think this is a gaming device. It’s a spatial computer. It was created for productivity and media consumption. There’s plenty other devices to play games.

[@ABYSSHeadphones]

“An iPod, a phone, an internet mobile communicator.”

[@jdarg4163]

It's a game changer for AR but not for VR as it only uses a chip which is only capable of 3.6 teraflops so compared to samething like the PlayStation 5 which Is 10.2 teraflops how does it really compare as is definitely can't do high fidelity VR games at 4k per eye as that will take to much power than the M2 can really produce yes it will be good for Movies and AR but for VR I really don't know

[@anthonycraig274]

Hmmm, it does cost a lot of money, but expensive it’s not.

[@HiFiInsider]

it's half the price of my Pro XDR monitor and it does more. I think it's cheap. lol....

[@stonybrain]

you guys are way off .. this thing is going to change the world !! 10 years worth !

[@joefilter2923]

Abyssmal hot take

[@carminedesanto6746]

Too expensive….from Abyss ….🤣

[@scarecrow66ab]

We do the video with you all wearing goggles or have a date night with you and your better half watching a movie with goggles on or go to the the coffee shop wearing those.

[@michaelherron362]

Does anyone here know someone who has dropped $3500 or more in a toy? Pretty much everyone knows many such people. Apple will sell as many as they can make.

[@ABYSSHeadphones]

Big boy toy.

[@PSy84]

The only problem is vision pro is not just a toy…it’s a computer, it’s an IMAX 3D theatre and complete home theatre system, an iPad an iPhone and a macbook combined…a playstation, and more. Big OLED TVs are arroynd 3000-5000usd.

[@michaelherron362]

@@PSy84 exactly!

[@Mandragara]

@@PSy84 Except a dozen people can watch an OLED TV, Apple Vision is a solo experience...

[@rukiddingme7]

Did these guys watch demo folks reactions? Guess not.

[@rukiddingme7]

3500 because inflation, Sony unable to make enough lenses for it

[@Armbrust210]

The hardware has a lot of potential. That's right. Problem is, the Hardware has had potential since 2016. And very similar Hardware already exists, with the Quest Pro/2/3. It's just not been taken seriously enough in terms of Software development. Eric touched on this, saying immersion isn't advancing fast enough. I agree put i would put it like this: there isn't enough Software that takes advantage of the unique capabilities that VR offers. And while Apple expanding the market is great, it worries me how they approach it. They're making a VR Headset more akin to a Meta Quest than a Microsoft Hololens, but are selling it as an AR Headset. Things like iSight further show this. They really don't want an enclosed Headset, they'd much rather give us a Tony Stark's Workshop experience, but must've realised it's easier to achieve that today in a VR Headset with Pass-through cameras. So they didn't even show people getting fully immersed often and didn't care to put a nose-flap to Block light at the bottom, because they don't care about this. To many people ignore this and just call it Apple's VR Headset, which they clearly don't want it to be. The exclusion of controllers is also an interesting move, that will make it a lot harder to interact with complex VR Environments. Or even AR ones. Then again, back to the Software they've shown us, they're not planning anything complex. It's basically just a virtual desktop right now, not unlike the basic Meta Home Environment is right now. And for that, why would you need a 3,5k Headset? If you want to run iPad Apps, there is a great device for that... If they're trying to create a new product category then they must enable us to do something we could not have done before, or now in a much more convient way, like how all previously successful Apple Products were. Right now, Vision Pro sadly does neither. It's a very pricey tiny step up over the competition Hardware vise, with a lot less compelling VR Software, that will only Release in a year, giving the competition time to improve their Hardware as well. I don't want to hate on the device and i would very much welcome a revolution in the XR industry. However, so far, i don't think the Vision Pro will be that. But it might be a stepping stone at least. A true zero-gen product. Thanks for reading my overly long comment, leave a comment yourself, i'd love to read it

[@ABYSSHeadphones]

This is certainty a complex issue. Although its very interesting, the hardware is only a very small portion of the problem. The hardware needs to exist for software developers to be incentivized to make great software, but without the software consumers won't want the hardware. Lets hope Apple is a part of helping to move this technology and we can get some serious software development! -Eric

[@bradleyfrank7933]

People who at most used a product for thirty minutes and think they know everything about it.

[@Transforming2024]

Please people spend that kind of money on useless stuff like handbags. Apple will sell millions.

[@DeepDishPizza]

Whoever thinks it’s expensive…these people are clearly broke!

[@klching4741]

Expensive is not product fault.

[@MacTX]

Definitely interesting watching expensive headphone engineers musing about how expensive Apple products are.

[@micbab-vg2mu]

Great talk - I use VR mainly for gaming I will buy Quest 3 for 499$. Maybe I will buy the Apple product in 3-5 years from now.

[@MrSamPhoenix]

These guys charge crazy money for far less complex things… and they’re talking about expensive lol?

[@christopherstreet2214]

It’s a computer

[@ABYSSHeadphones]

It's a personal communications device

[@ABYSSHeadphones]

It's a 120" video screen

[@toututu2993]

ABYSS: Who should spend $3,500 on a headset that can replace tv, computer, smartphone, smartwatch, smart glasses, ipod, gaming console, speakers, microphone and blu ray system when you can spend $10,000 on our headphones

[@ABYSSHeadphones]

To each his own.

[@katherandefy]

Notta toy

[@dixter1652]

hmmm... a $3500 head set with great tech compared to a over priced headphone stand of materials worth about $2 .... isn't that crazy

[@fotisvon9943]

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@epicmage82]

The idea is just dumb. AR is just a bad idea. Also $3500 😂😂😂. I really wouldn't take that garbage for free. 😂😂

[@PSy84]

🤡 I love how stupid you are. 😂 it’s music to my ears😂

[@Zakariah1971]

Blah blah blah…. We’re broke bla blah blah. Go buy Google cardboard. 😂

[@EZpZeero]