Engines Fall off Boeing 747 and Crashes into an Apartment Building | Plainly Difficult

[@PlainlyDifficult]

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[@nobleheart9802]

JOHN!!! How are you not covering the 2023 chocolate factory explosion?!? Palmer Chocolates in Pennsylvania

[@jokuvaan5175]

That 83% off sounds sus

[@soundspark]

How much do you get paid for that scam? Should we use PIA to torrent your music?

[@JordaneseTyphoon-jk6fr]

One other disaster that I’m kind of surprised you haven’t covered yet is the Quintinshill rail disaster of 1915

[@SpankyK]

18:26 🎵🤘🏻🎵

[@rvdb7363]

The recording of air traffic control is heart wrenching to listen to. The controller tells the tower that the plane is in big, big, big trouble. After the pilots radio that they are going down the controler frantically keeps trying to make contact. Until his colleague says "its no use Henk. They crashed. It's one big column of smoke over the city."

[@ZGryphon]

" _Columbia,_ Houston, comm check."

[@JasperJanssen]

Living in NL at the time this was a big, big news event. One of the early 24/7 news things in my life, albeit before CNN etc. made it here.

[@rvdb7363]

@JasperJanssen I was quite young at the time (almost 7), but I remember that programming was interrupted for this breaking news and it was the only thing on the TV for some time. It's the first disaster I remember.

[@Wasko1312]

I remember.

[@rickraptor9936]

@@rvdb7363 Yeah, same. It's one my earliest memories as a little kid (I was even younger). I wandered into my friend's house, and his mother was sitting there watching tv, with that smoking apartment building split into two. Left quite an impression.

[@thedjvg]

My dad was working for the KLM engine maintenance department at that time. This plane flew over our house and my dad listened to the sounds and said "there's something really wrong with that/those engine(s)". Minutes later it crashed in the Bijlmer. Will never forget this terrible accident.

[@Look_What_You_Did]

Liar.

[@rodger996]

My am​@@Look_What_You_Did

[@cherriberri8373]

​​@@Look_What_You_Did what do they gain by lying about a small thing their dad noticed that is relavent to the video? They're not flexing money, status, or anything like that. I think your life is just so boring you can't imagine anything interesting actually happens to others.

[@Argosh]

​@@cherriberri8373It's extra dumb to claim op is a liar when you consider that by its very nature as an unforgettable event it would make it a topic of interest, thus raising the likelyhood of that person ending up in this very comment section.

[@eustacequinlank7418]

@@Argosh It's some kind of internet born psychology. They think it's a claim to fame of some kind rather than someone sharing a story and empathising, one they are reactively jealous of for some reason. Only they can know what's going on in their head, but regardless of generation and age, it comes from a post internet type of mind for sure. I think it's the lack of empathy or detection of it that most worries me about their kind. It is becoming far too common an attitude now. Creepy individuals.

[@NatesRandomVideo]

Just for future pronunciation reference for aviation disasters : Runways are always spoken as individual numbers … “Two Seven”. (Not “Twenty Seven”.) The letters stand for “Left” “Right” and “Center” and are stated that way, not via NATO phonetics (“Lima”). Cheers from an old white haired flight instructor.

[@airplanemaniacgaming7877]

It's one of those things that can be very...irksome. Like when in movies and videogames they say "over and out" like...... *_AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA_*

[@robertjstrupp288]

Respectful corrections. Nice.

[@echelonrank3927]

chinese say two ten seven

[@jaekae13]

👍 I actually find aviation terminology really interesting! I already knew this, but there was a time when I didn't, so I really appreciate your comment. I always found NATO phonetics a bit puzzling when I was younger (take "Lima" for example, which most native English speakers would tend to assume would be pronounced with a long "i", as in the bean). But that's because I wasn't used to them. They exist because audio transmissions aren't always perfectly clear, either due to the quality of the audio, or due to differing accents/inflections, or both. "Tango" is always going to come through much more clearly than the letter "T". And aviation terminology is similar, in that it makes communication much easier. A lot of languages have counting systems (yes, I'm looking at you, French) that are quite different from one another. Some aren't even based on "tens" at all. Cutting out that bit altogether, and saying "two seven" instead of "twenty-seven", and "flight level three five zero" instead of "thirty-five thousand feet", reduces potential confusion by implementing a simple standard instead. (And non-native speakers only need to learn one through nine, not the entire English numerical system.) I know you already know this, but I wanted to leave this here in case anyone clicking on this comment is curious to know why it is the way it is!

[@peterkent6250]

White hair is the only colour hair I feel comfortable flying with me inside! Race or sex is irrelevant. Hair colour racists rise up. :p

[@j.ackermann9110]

This is one of the disasters where the pilots on board could have done nothing to prevent it. Its hard when well trained people are at the helm but the disaster is inevitable.

[@andrewtaylor940]

I think in the simulator the only pilots to come close to pulling it off knew the exact circumstances of the aircraft. Which the actual pilots did not. They key point where they lost it, not unlike a few other horrifying incidents, was when they engaged the flaps. Not realizing that the hydraulics in one wing were shattered.

[@Relkond]

Loss of engines reduced thrust to that side, making it prone to stalling. Damage to the leading edge increased the stall speed for the wing. Damage to the flaps/slats meant deploying them would have probably sent it directly into an upset/crash. Preparing the plane to land by slowing down and deploying flaps/slats would directly crash the plane. It _may_ have been possible to put wheels to runway without those steps, but the plane would be barreling down the runway at insane speeds, as if it were an F15 trying to land minus a wing. but F15s can stop faster. a cargo jet barreling down the runway at silly speeds? Count on it running out of runway and finding into whatever was past it.

[@andrewtaylor940]

@@Relkond Plus fully fueled and carrying a full cargo load. The plane would be challenging to land and stop normally with that load.

[@andan2293]

And all of this just because some greedy corporation didn't bother to replace some fucking pins...

[@brodriguez11000]

Plane falling from sky in Brazil.

[@haseulibae7083]

Hey John, I'm just putting this here just to talk, but my dad passed away a few days ago, and your videos were something that we always watched and bonded over. He was actually in the process of watching your orphan source playlist bc he hadn't watched any of them yet. Thank you for everything you do man, it's beyond appreciated and anything of understanding. ❤❤❤ Love you, please keep it up. Edit: Thank you everyone for the kind words, and condolences on my part to your own personal tragedies. ❤️ Grief is sure a strange thing...

[@sophierobinson2738]

Condolences for your loss😢

[@BlueTeam-John-Fred-Linda-Kelly]

Peace to the fallen, I hope you are doing alright friend. 😔

[@MMSMLUNWINPP]

Condolences my friend, I recently lost a family member as well, so I can empathize somewhat. I had a person in another comment give me an interesting perspective and I thought maybe it might help. They said that, pain of loss is the price we pay for having someone to love so much. It didn't take away all the grief for me, but definitely helped a little put it in a different pov. You and your family are in my prayers.

[@philipstowers4741]

Rest in peace your dad. (Not everybody in the comments is a dickhead)

[@Joze1090]

Much love dude keep on keeping on even when keeping on seems impossible ❤

[@berendharmsen]

A university friend of mine from Brazil lived in a flat in the same part of town as this accident. We were both working in the lab when the news broke. Oddly enough, we heard the news from her mother who saw 'plane crashes on building in Amsterdam' and called to see if her daughter was still alive. We sort of laughed about how funny it is that when people abroad hear something happens in a faraway land where they know a loved one currently resides that people tend to assume it happened to them. But when she went home she saw that the thing actually crashed about five hundred meters from her apartment.

[@squarebear619]

I have friends and family both in the states and abroad who will hear about a wildfire and/or earthquake, yet it will be in L.A. or Riverside County, which is 2-3 hours away from me! Even when it is something occurring locally, it's still on the other side of the city! Lol, they mean well, and I appreciate their concern.😅

[@foggyfrogy]

Same thing with the one terrorist who drove into a christmas market in Germany. My aunts called us to hear if anyone was hurt. ... One hour before the accident my dad was actually waiting in the car in front of the Christmas market for his boss who was having dinner... If the boss had been there longer and my dad would've decided to walk around the Christmas market who knows...😢😢😢

[@mrtnsnp]

I lived quite close to that crash. Even closer was one of the fire stations in the area. I've grown up living close to that fire station, so the sirens were "normal". I don't think I ever heard that many sirens. The highway was closed to make way for ambulances transporting the wounded to hospitals in the area. I had family who were teaching in the area, and when school resumed, a few seats remained empty. Edit: I originally wrote in this comment that the engines were found several months later. This is not correct, my memory failed me. The Wikipedia page has a decent summary of the facts, and is shorter than the full report.

[@biazacha]

The school bit send chills down my spine…. hoping the empty seats were from families that decided to move and not the grim alternative

[@scdu]

​@@biazacha why would they move?

[@lhagiduty]

@@scduboeing engines raining down on them

[@urielpolak9949]

I remember stories of top secret cargo and people getting sick. People in hasmat suits.

[@Vespyr_]

​@@biazachaI mean people died here mate, why delude ourselves? Share the emotional burden of those who suffered a loss. It happened, it's worth acknowledging. I like to believe it helps their souls to move on.

[@eddiehimself]

I can only imagine the heartbreak that husband to be must have suffered just days before what was supposed to be their wedding. RIP to all.

[@PlainlyDifficult]

It must have been heart wrenching!

[@MaoRatto]

Boeing should be forced to give their money to him. Punish Boeing's stockholders as they are making the planes cheaper and cheaper.

[@thomasmleahy6218]

​@MaoRatto Keep in mind that stock options are another source of income for managers and other company officials. So 17:25 protecting shareholder value absolutely enriches many airline employees, not just the general public.

[@QuatrinaVR]

I remember hearing the story of a couple that lost both of their teenage children in this accident. It’s absolutely heartbreaking.

[@leafybean]

Well what was wrong with the plane? "The engines fell off." Is that normal for this type of plane? "No, not at all." So, what was different about this plane? "Well, the engines fell off."

[@2Fast4Mellow]

Well, at least the wings were not on fire...

[@tin2001]

​@@2Fast4Mellow Not at first, anyway. I suspect there was quite a bit of fire on the wings once they landed it.

[@markhansen5142]

Shamelessly paraphrased from Clarke & Dawe. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZ6YoquQosR9p68

[@urizen7613]

I see what you did there!

[@billhartley1899]

At least the front didn't fall off.

[@hydronpowers9014]

A plane just felt out the sky in Brazil killing at least 60...

[@Avendesora]

Just looked it up because of this comment. Obviously gonna wait for the full investigation, but if what I think happened is what happened then I can only imagine how terrifying that was for the passengers :(

[@Polopony20.]

I swear he times these video to go out right after stuff happens cause he did the same for the bridge collapse earlier this year

[@pootispiker2866]

​@@Avendesorathere's no two ways about it, they 100% knew that they were about to die. The video shows a solid 10 seconds of a flatspin and that's absolutely not all of it.

[@patrickdurham8393]

Surprisingly it wasn't a Boeing aircraft.

[@Emily-ou6lq]

@@Avendesora crashed due to icing

[@SirLugash]

14:30 One more detail to add here. When engine 3 detached, it didn't just fall down but pushed forward since it was still creating thrust for a bit without having to drag the plane forward, before it fell back and slammed into engine 4. It also caused damage to the leading edges of the wing and the hydraulic system. One more disaster similar to this (in terms of cause) was the one of American Airlines flight 191 from Chicago O'Hare. During take-off, the aft pylon attach fitting failed on one of the wing-mounted engines of a McDonnell Douglas DC-10, which caused the engine to rotate upwards around the forward attach point, ripping it apart and causing damage to the leading edge of the wing it went over after seperation. This (loss of thrust and lift on one wing during take-off) caused the plane to continuously bank further left until it crashed shortly after becoming airborne. There is a photograph of the aircraft at an 90° bank angle with the left engine just missing, which is just harrowing.

[@JasperJanssen]

In the case of aa191, it was caused by shortcuts during maintenance by the airline, instead of by design defects. They were supposed to maintain by removing the engine, then removing the pylon. But what they did instead was remove the pylon including the engine, and putting them on a “clever” forklift rig. Subjecting the pylon to loads it wasn’t designed or cleared for. Whoever came up with that should really have been criminally charged, plus everyone who ever saw it and approved it. Despite having not been a design defect, it still killed the DC10 and effectively ended the McDonnell Douglas company as a passenger airliner manufacturer. These people should have watched more Staplerfahrer Klaus.

[@krashd]

@@JasperJanssen What made that worse was that the forklift would slowly lose hydraulic lift over time, which the workers knew, but they would still leave it holding up a partially attached engine assembly for over an hour while they went for lunch, each time the payload would sag causing stress cracks to form around the one pin holding the assembly to the wing.

[@JasperJanssen]

@@krashd even over shift changes sometimes, apparently. That’s when it would lose hydraulic power, because the engine of the forklift was turned off during it. They could have left it running, but didn’t.

[@thatguyuk1]

@@JasperJanssen exactly. and that cannot be pinned on Boeing. same as the Chinese airlines and Japan air 747's both maintenance related. These were planes that the management and workers cared about.

[@dawnreneegmail]

Harrowing was the fact those passengers were enjoying in-flight of their take off on monitors throughout the cabin!!! they saw it comin'. word.

[@SeverityOne]

The Bijlmermeer, or Bijlmer, is one of those neighbourhoods that was designed according to the ideas of the 1960s: big, concrete, brutalist blocks, with storage areas underneath the flats, parking garages, lots of green between the buildings, and segregated right-of-way for cars, bicycles, and the brand new metro. It was intended for young families with children, with the husband driving to work, and the wife staying at home to look after the children. The area was annexed from other local councils and became a part of Amsterdam, but it's an exclave: it's physically separated from the rest of Amsterdam. On a side note: 'meer' is the Dutch word for lake, and this area used to be a lake, which was drained in 1627. Same as with the Haarlemmermeer (where Schiphol is located; the name means a graveyard for ships), Beemster, Schermer, Purmer, Wieringermeer, and many more. What really happened is that it became a troubled neighbourhood, as so many of them did. It was exacerbated by the 1975 independence of Suriname, where about half of the population (around 200,000 people) left and moved to the Netherlands, so that they would have Dutch instead of Surinamese citizenship. A large proportion of these ended up in Amsterdam, and a lot of them in the Bijlmermeer. I'll leave it to the sociologists and politicians to debate the complex issue of immigration, but the Bijlmermeer had a rather bad reputation before this crash. Culturally, it's a very interesting place, but then and now, there is more crime and violent crime than on average in the Netherlands, or even Amsterdam. The one positive outcome of this otherwise horrific disaster is that it led to urban renewal. Many of the 'honeycomb flats' were pulled down and replaced by low-rise and mid-rise buildings. While this was already under consideration, the disaster was a catalyst. (Disclaimer: that's how I remember it. I stand to be corrected.) There is _a_ _lot_ more to this disaster. Reports of people in white hazmat suits, depleted uranium, traces of uranium and plutonium, connotations with sarin gas, secret agreements between the Dutch and Israeli states... It eventually led to a parliamentary inquiry ('parlementaire enquête'), which was damning for those involved at the time. Misinforming parliament, for example, which is a political mortal sin. It ought to be mentioned that a parliamentary inquiry is the most powerful and impactful tool that parliament has. Witnesses are heard under oath, and it usually leads to the resignation of ministers or the entire government. It had been used very little, with eight in the 19th century, and one just after the war. It was then used in 1983, and since then there have been almost twice as many since then, than in the preceding 168 years. Most of the files of the Dutch investigative body will be sealed until _at_ _least_ 2062.

[@Buzz_Purr]

Thank you @SeverityOne. Yes, the Dutch people were left with many questions, about health issues, uranium ballast, the secretive cargo list and many more things. The parliamentary inquiry didn't answer all questions, but it was still a valuable way to 'learn lessons for the future'.

[@theblackhand6485]

ELAL Bijlmer Crash files sealed until 2062? For sure something big is going on here! Did institutes or amateurs used Geiger tellers to check the area on nuclear radiation?

[@SeverityOne]

@@theblackhand6485 Depleted uranium is nothing unusual in aeroplanes. It's compact and heavy, so ideal for counterbalance. The problem is more that anything involving Israel immediately raises the conspiracy level by several notches. Rightly or wrongly, it makes the whole thing a lot murkier. The 2062 date (which is a minimum, by the way) is probably to ensure that anybody involved will be dead. It's hard to say more than that, because governments get funny when it comes to classified information.

[@dawnreneegmail]

@@theblackhand6485 often records get sealed for a period of time, but I'll be long gone before the reveal he facts.

[@davidwilson6577]

Thanks for typing that all out, very interesting stuff. Even the derivation of Schiphol, neat.

[@anja9226]

I remember my parents telling me about it when it was the 10th anniversary of this disaster. They married one year before this happened on october 4th '91. Greetings from the Netherlands!

[@justanotherjezebeI]

I love that you gave a shout out to Chloe. ❤ Her channel is awesome.

[@brucebaxter6923]

Side issue, People reported to have watched the plane crash on the tv. The study was about false memories and how easily they can be formed. This event was the subject of the study as there were for sure no video or still photos of the accident.

[@PlainlyDifficult]

That's really fascinating!!

[@harrynac6017]

You beat me at this. Glad you did, my comment was a chaotic novel.

[@brucebaxter6923]

@@harrynac6017 fascinating study though

[@tomar81]

@@harrynac6017 I would love to read your chaotic novel

[@AudieHolland]

Never heard of this. I was a student at that time and I certainly have no recollection of any images or other people claiming to have those. Maybe you're mistaken with the 9/11 events.

[@skeetrix5577]

as a plane (crash?) enthusiast i remember how i felt the first time i heard if this crash, just horrified at how tragic this was. all those innocent souls gone in a second. thank you john for covering this interesting story! and thanks for having such consistent upload times!:)

[@PlainlyDifficult]

It was really tragic

[@miekamariekster]

Check out @SeverityOne their comment for more bizar info on this crash...

[@YourAverageAirForceFan]

0:07 the bemehehem

[@raulkunz1318]

WHAHAHA as a dutch person I laughed so hard

[@slothpajamas]

😂😂😂😂

[@tropicalpalmtree]

😂 right it's literally pronounced 'bil-mer-meer'

[@e1123581321345589144]

it's Dutch. you can't expect anyone to pronounce that stuff correctly.

[@SimonOhNo]

@@e1123581321345589144it’s funny, you can’t expect everyone to be so serious all the time.

[@totifernandez9532]

Even the engine does not trust Boeing and wanted to get off.

[@Grezero]

My Grandma lived a few blocks away a that time, truly horrific

[@TheOsfania]

No, she didn't. I was there and never saw her, not even once.

[@protalukoriginal4560]

​@@TheOsfania you are AI generated by the way.

[@foxrogers8525]

*Title card appears on-screen* Me: "Missed opportunity for 'Plane-ly Difficult', nyuk nyuk nyuk." *47 people died* Me, feeling like an ass: "Okay, so a bad pun would definitely have not been appropriate."

[@Spooky_Platypus]

We call that gallows humor. Don’t worry. Your pun made me giggle.😂

[@ceciliayus7385]

Don’t you worry, I was thinking the same thing, and then laughed even harder when I realized what a horrible joke it was.

[@AntiCommunistSympathizer]

My brother in short form KZbin documentaries enjoyer, never, NEVER apologize for a f**ked up sense of humor. Means your willing to laugh in the face of an absolutely terrible situation, and that's a gift... even if the pun made me cringe when it slapped me in the face like a 747 slapping the ground.

[@LongEZpilot]

I have often thought that John should have a separate channel called “Planely Difficult” for his air disaster videos. And no offence taken at the gallows humour. Many pilots share that. I have been known, on occasion, to tell my passengers, “Welcome aboard XXXXXX Air. We’ll get you there or die trying.” Only if I think they’ll enjoy that particular sort of thing, of course.

[@SanchoPanza-wg5xf]

"Pipe down, knucklehead! Why I oughta...."

[@freedomthroughspirit]

What an especially sad one (when experienced crew does nothing wrong, those get me the most). 😢 Thank you for covering this. 🙏

[@nvelsen1975]

The worst is that the lake they were just about to start flying over, western Gooimeer, was basically the perfect place to crash-land a plane and hope to survive: Shallow at less then 10 meters dipping to less than 3 in places, with a large bird sanctuary free from vessels and people, but with two harbours (Naarden, Huizen both with a response time of basically 10-16 minutes at 30 knots) nearby that at the time both already sported a rescue service, it was the perfect combination where they would've had water to prevent a fuel fire, not deep enough to sink, rescue nearby and not much chance of collatoral damage. The survival odds of any crashlanding are rough, but if the crew was ever going to have a chance it was there. But they didn't know and (correctly to procedure) turned and tried to make the airport, everything then unfolding as it did.

[@fisk0]

Today I was reminded of the Swedish Lerum train accident on November 16 1987, in which a wrongly installed switch and miscommunication resulted in 9 deaths as two trains moving in opposite directions got switched onto the same track. On the note of planes crashing into buildings, Sweden had the Vikbo air disaster on October 26, 1960 in which a Saab 32 Lansen crashed into a house, killing 7 people on the ground. The plane had a faulty fuel system and the pilot had ejected, but the plane had kept flying unpiloted for minutes before hitting the building. The plane's fuel issues had been known and new parts for it were available at the base, but had not been installed.

[@ReyOfLight]

I have an aunt who was supposed to be on that train that day, but for whatever reason, she ended up not going (can't remember if she missed the train or if the trip was cancelled last minute) and that saved her from being in that accident.

[@YochevedDesigns]

A friend of mine works for Boeing as a quality control engineer. If you ask him what he does for a living, he says "I'm the guy who makes sure that the engines don't fall off." followed up by "No, I'm not kidding. I have to inspect and sign off on every single screw and rivet on the whole plane."

[@yuuji8447]

The stress of that job…. I couldn’t imagine

[@diegoarias7774]

One interesting fact is that many 747s of this era had depleted uranium counterweight and that this counterweight was the cause of many people's illness in the time after the crash. This was mentioned in subsequent government inquiries.

[@jakobrebeki]

So a special safety feature built in to save the plane ended up killing it. I found this quite interesting as I remember when the VEP stock started shedding brake blocks due to a new safety hold pin being fitted. Thanks for posting....

[@IcyTorment]

That's what happened with the two 737 MAX crashes. Well, that was part of it, in combination with poor airline maintenance practices and catastrophic pilot error.

[@JasperJanssen]

Eschede ICE train crash roughly falls in that category as well.

[@JasperJanssen]

@@IcyTormentno, the Max crashes had nothing to do with maintenance as such. They were Operating As Designed perfectly. They were just really badly designed. If you want crashes caused by bad maintenance, there’s AA191, though.

[@anteshell]

0:45 It was a hard hit. Not only the building snapped in half, it knocked each half completely out of alignment.

[@mikemotorbike4283]

That's fascinating, but I bet the counter ostensible reason for the demo is no one would want to live in a building where 47 people died, and hundreds injured. It would be like attending a perpetual funeral. There would be no other talk but, "Oh, you live in THAT building! Do you see ghosts?" with solemn admonitions to respect the victims. You'd be Catholic-crossing yourself every time you looked out the window. The rebuilt buildings of great disasters inevitably become effectively unofficial national mausoleums, attracting only the very rare and specific taste of eccentric tenant with a morbid occult appreciation of the event. At the very least, there is a type of stigma reserved for those living there.

[@robinderoos1166]

Nah, just shitty architecture...

[@thefancydoge8668]

​@robinderoos1166 a 747 is almost the size of a city block and it hit the building dead-on, any building would shift out of alignment, no matter how good or bad the architecture is

[@daphne8406]

I think everyone who was not a baby at the time in The Netherlands still remembers that terrible accident very clearly 😔

[@SeverityOne]

Yup. And the Enschede fireworks disaster, eight years later.

[@rvdb7363]

Yup. I was six at the time. It's the first disaster I remember.

[@rvdb7363]

​@@SeverityOne and the new years eve fire in Volendam

[@SeverityOne]

@@rvdb7363 True, although that happened a week after I emigrated from the Netherlands, and online news wasn't back then what it is today. So it was never as immersive an experience as were the Bijlmer and Enschede disasters.

[@Amitlu]

@@SeverityOne The news would not let me forget.

[@JerryRickton]

I doubt this will be seen amongst the sea of comments, but the "L," "R," and "C" on runway designations does not mean their NATO alphabet sound, but rather "Left," "Right," and "Centre," respectively. This helps to differentiate parallel runways that are aligned on the same heading (heading also being what the runway number means) That's the only glaring inaccuracy that I see. I hope to see some more aviation accident videos from you. P.S. Have you considered covering the 1993 Hardin, MO Cemetery Flood?

[@linesteppr]

17:03 Don't forget that at least 583 of those deaths had nothing to do with the aircraft's characteristics but fatal error by a pilot-in-command. "Tenerife Airport Disaster"

[@capt.bart.roberts4975]

I remember reading about this at the time, it really was shocking. I did my nurse training in Redhill, we had Gatwick in our emergency area, brought us a lot of custom. The one we planned and gamed for was a large passenger plane falling on Crawley.

[@kzonedd7718]

I was there. The ambulances were lined up. There were no people to take to the hospital. Everyone was dead.

[@JasperJanssen]

@@kzonedd7718well, smoke inhalation victims from slightly farther away. But nothing from the direct impact, for sure.

[@MMSMLUNWINPP]

Late to comment, but I feel it's important to give credit where credit is due...so once again, thank you for another amazing documentary, it definitely exemplifies why you have over 1 MILLION SUBSCRIBERS! I know I've sent your videos to sooo many people, including my elderly parents! My dad lives in Florida...in a cement, high rise, elderly housing building...and now understands why I'm so nervous about that haha. Keep up the good work brother!

[@victoralcasas]

I grew up in the Bijlmer. Half my family was in Kempering just a short bike ride away when the crash happened. Interesting side note the inboard engine separated at Take Off power which wasn't planned for. When it separated it went forward and up instead of back and down as designed. It actually turned around and hit the #4 engine head on. It ripped all the cabling and wiring between the engines likely destroying the leading edge and ruining the lift on the wing.

[@thing_under_the_stairs]

Wow, so that engine was flying on its own for a moment, and hit in just the right spot to do maximum damage? That's extra scary in a story that's already pure awful. Good to know that at least everyone in your family was okay!

[@maryeckel9682]

Just like American 191

[@victoralcasas]

@@thing_under_the_stairs yeah it was just an insane bit of bad luck.

[@victoralcasas]

@@maryeckel9682 exactly the same thing. Engine separating at take off power went up and over instead of down and back.

[@SiVlog1989]

One crash I'd suggest is one that although it didn't have high numbers of fatalities, it did come as a huge shock. On April 1st 1993, defending NASCAR Cup Series Champion, Alan Kulwicki, along with 3 people associated with his sponsor, Hooters Restaurants, were making their way from a sponsor event in Knoxville to Bristol Motor Speedway, for the next NASCAR race, the Food City 500, in a Fairchild Merlin III, a twin turboprop private plane registered N500AK. At half 9PM, just 6 miles from Tri-Cities Regional Airport, Bristol, on final approach, both engines lose power. Falling from the sky in flames, the Fairchild smashed into the ground near the village of Blountville, Tennessee. It didn't take long to establish that there were no survivors. At just after 8am the next morning local time, local police held a press conference at the Speedway. There, they announced the deaths of Alan Kulwicki (NASCAR's reigning champion), Mark Brooks (son of Hooters owner Bob Brooks), Dan Duncan (one of Hooters' executives) and pilot Charlie Campbell. The motorsport community, particularly in the United States, were shocked and saddened by the sudden loss of these 4 people, including Kulwicki, who fresh from success against the odds just 4 months before (in November 1992, Kulwicki prevailed in a close battle for the 1992 NASCAR championship, becoming the first owner driver to secure the title since Richard Petty in 1979), only to have it cruelly snuffed out when he looked set to enjoy the benefits of his achievement. In a tear jerking scene, after Kulwicki's father, the sole beneficiary of Alan Kulwicki's Will, formally withdraws his late son's team from the race in Bristol, his son's transporter made one last ceremonial lap of the Bristol Speedway, before a NASCAR official waved the chequered flag on the reigning champion one last time. As for the Crash, the NTSB took just under a year to complete its accident investigation. In it, they reported that there was no electrical continuity between the Cockpit and the Inlet anti-ice system, suggesting either the pilot, Campbell, didn't turn it on, or it malfunctioned. Whatever the truth, the blades of the propellers were feathered (parallel with the air) when the plane crashed

[@cmc2550]

Fantastic! Classy for you to mention Chloe. She makes wonderful content over there. No need to compete with other content creators when every point of view is so different and interesting. Thank you John from rather soggy Eastern North Carolina

[@5ebliminal]

I've worked as a cargo handler/baggage handler/marshaller/FMC operator, we never use the phonetic alphabet for the aircrafts identifier unless it's with pilots or sometimes operations use it to clarify

[@viktorakhmedov3442]

Saw the thumbnail, first reaction was "Which one???" How much must it suck to be those astronauts? "Hi, we're Boeing. We can get you back to Earth but you're likely to be vaporized in the process. We're still debating the impact that would have on our share price and whether it's worth it".

[@harrynac6017]

Humankind's famous last words "this is bad for the economy"

[@arcanondrum6543]

Don't talk like that in front of the money and remember; "capitalism is the GREATEST idea ever, it's exactly the same as freedom and democracy".

[@cherriberri8373]

As the usual, not defending boeings bad practices, but the astronauts are absolutely not going to be coming down in anything that has risk to it unless it's a worse idea to stay on the station for some reason. And, right now it is looking like the risk of something non nominal happening is 1%, the astronauts signed up for roughly .4%.

[@Scnottaken]

​​@@arcanondrum6543how dare you compare our Lord capitalism with the lowly ideals of democracy and freedom

[@viktorakhmedov3442]

@@cherriberri8373 Will they be entitled to bonus pay for the added risk and anxiety they've had to endure?

[@michaelastle3193]

Air crash investigation, is also a good program to watch if anyone watching this, finds this subject interesting

[@phalanx3803]

some of it is on Disney plus for now. i could never find any legit site that had it till it was on D+ even then not all of it is there. also second from disaster is another good one not legit sites for that one you have to sail out to the 7 sea's for it.

[@tiercel5561]

I watched this disaster in one of the episodes of Air Crash Investigation before this one, actually.

[@evankalbach9985]

I started flying on the 747 all the way back to the 100 series with too many flights to count aboard 100's, 200's, 400's, and 800's. I think it was a great plane and the fact that it is still in use today speaks volumes.

[@nerdygoth6905]

Not to minimise the loss of life on the ground, but how utterly terrifying those last few minutes must have been for the flight crew and anybody else on the plane. I love the cartoons, John, I was admiring the simple elegance of the plane at the start of the video. Not the kind of thing that you usually cover, but any chance of a video on the Berlin Aquarium fish tank from December 2022?

[@Idrinklight44]

I agree 👍!

[@ClaireStClare]

Great idea!

[@BarbaraJikai]

Those 43 people who died on the ground, is a modest estimate. It has never been cleared up how many people actually died that day. It was a high rise building with a lot of immigrants living there. Not everybody was properly registered to the addresses involved. So how many people really died that day, remains a guess. It is at least 43. But might be a lot more too.

[@markmilan8365]

The worst was not for the crew and not for those that died in the building, the worst was for the parents of the two kids left in the house sleeping. They were still close and run back immediately to see the building completely gone. If you are a mother you would prefer to die in an accident.

[@d.l.d.l.8140]

Flew out of Detroit in the 80’s 12 hrs. after a failed takeoff. Our plane used the same runway and of course the same early heading. The wreckage, which we of course got an uncomfortably close view of, was sobering, and I couldn’t help but recognize in the moment that literally thousands of people had their lives changed the night before.

[@eddiehimself]

If you are considering doing any other incidents involving aircraft (and more specifically 747-200s,) then United Airlines 811 is an interesting one about how two grieving parents took on the NTSB and Boeing and won.

[@PlainlyDifficult]

Thank you for the suggestion!!

[@NathanSimonGottemer]

That's the one where the cargo door blew off a 747 because of a failed latch pin, right? I saw that story on Mayday; it was very interesting to watch, especially with how tenacious the parents were and just how cathartic it is to see them at least get some recompense.

[@the_expidition427]

Saving this

[@PearlClanLeaderIrida]

​@@NathanSimonGottemer Yeah it was the one where cargo door opened in flight and basically ripped off a part of it's fuselage.

[@soundspark]

​@PlainlyDifficult Will it have a questionable ad too?

[@fenguri]

The runway from which the aircraft departed in Amsterdam is not "zero one lima" but rather it is "zero one left".

[@tomar81]

Actually 🤓

[@Bisonrulz16]

@@tomar81 it's a basic fact for a video on aviation. These kinds of errors are shown regularly on this channel. The quality of the reseach has become seriously questionable. Your response is ridiculous when people are calling out errors on what claims to be an educational video.

[@tomevers23]

​@Bisonrulz16 It still is the same. Just an "L". This isn't an aviation channel, but a disaster channel. All just take a chill pill before insulting people and their work

[@tomar81]

@@Bisonrulz16 sounds like this channel is not for you. I bet you also have issues with his unprofessional drawing and animations.

[@Bisonrulz16]

@@tomevers23 education KZbinrs need to be held to a higher standard. It's not okay to assert you know what you're talking about while getting basic stuff wrong.

[@MoteofVolition]

Hi from Bali, PD! Thanks for your vids :)

[@PlainlyDifficult]

hello!!

[@JeffBezosVEVO]

Holy crap that’s crazy Like if you agree :)

[@PXAbstraction]

That's a way higher than acceptable failure rate for most cheap consumer electronics. For aircraft, that's insane.

[@Idrinklight44]

How many were pilot error?

[@RCAvhstape]

Context is important. You sell enough of these things to enough customers, some of who do not train or maintain properly, or operate with good judgement, you get accidents over a 50 year period.

[@Idrinklight44]

​@@PXAbstractiondon't forget pilot error..... What percent do you think are pilot error, weather, crappy mechanics?

[@BGTech1]

well, it was a relatively early aircraft. It lived though the decades when aircraft safety wasn’t great. The 747s, 707s, 727s took the burden, and as a result new generation aircraft are extremely safe.

[@Dirk-Ulowetz]

Another good source, when it comes to aircraft accidents, is the YT channel Mentour Pilot.

[@Kareemorion]

Love his channel!

[@puellanivis]

Of note, when speaking of runways, L/C/R are not read Lima/Charlie/Romeo, but Left/Center/Right. Also, when drawing numbers on a runway, the numbers you’re reading off should be at the start of the run relative to direction the plane is facing. So the 17, should have been on the right side (not left) of the runway, as the plane was coming in from the right. (I am by no means an expert myself, but these are little details that I know of.)

[@LordWiggle]

I recommended to cover this disaster years ago, thank you for finally covering it :). You missed the chemicals the plane was carrying, this made many people sick in the years after and might scale it to worse then your current scale.

[@SchnuckySchuster]

It is worth mentioning that at the time of the accident it looked likely that the aircraft would have carried classified military cargo. The secret services where quite active on the crash sight.

[@zackakai5173]

*Citation needed

[@NortyNige]

@@zackakai5173 Check medical records for the following years the spike in Cancers and other life threatening ailments will tell it's own story.

[@dawsum11]

The runway number 01L is said as "zero one left", not lima.

[@arcanondrum6543]

Lima is the "L" in the phonetic alphabet. It is actually, MORE likely that "Lima" would be used to describe Runway 07L because the words representing the phonetic alphabet are deliberately chosen to remove doubt from Radio transmissions. Certainly in the cockpit, it is more likely to hear the word "Left" because the view out their window is of two nearly identical Runways, one on the right and one on the left and they are using an intercom headset, plus they can hear one another without it - two good reasons not to need the phonetic alphabet in the cockpit unless it comes time to repeat something already said before.

[@arcanondrum6543]

...and yes, I didn't bother using "01L" because "1" and "l" look similar and we're not landing at that airport right now.

[@GearGuardianGaming]

​​@@arcanondrum6543...runways are either L (left) or R (right). its not said as romeo or lima. your attempt at discrediting the op is for naught, despite typing an essay. you should listen to some atc radio channels.

[@arcanondrum6543]

​@@GearGuardianGaming I have, from inside a real cockpit. "Great" to hear from you @GearGuardianGAMER.

[@Cecily-Pimprenelle]

​@@GearGuardianGamingyes ; more precisely, either ”left” or ”right” or nothing if there’s only one runway on that axis. International alphabet would be used for the taxiways (so using it for runways would only make things unnecessarily confusing) - and for sign calls and everything, left/right is kind of an exception.

[@TAddy-wq3hg]

Had to pause at 4:26 and listen to your pronunciation of "Schiphol" as ski-pole (it's more like 'shippel'). Fun fact! It translates to "Shipwreck", which feels kind of ironic for an airport name. The video is incredible as always, that one second snippet just made me double-take. Thanks for keeping up the channel

[@hanzzel6086]

Iirc, it is built on the site of a naval battle between Denmark and Britain (they filled in the old harbour to build the airport).

[@SeverityOne]

@@hanzzel6086 The battle was between Spain-aligned troops and Dutch rebels. It was a very large lake (Haarlemmermeer), which kept getting larger and larger, until the Dutch said 'sod it', and drained the damn thing. It wasn't filled in to build the airport, because (a) it wasn't filled in but drained, and (b) this happened halfway the 19th century. There used to be a network of railway lines there (Haarlemmermeerspoorlijnen), and twice a day or so, a freight train would cross the A2 motorway. I remember that situation. It was... awkward.

[@hanzzel6086]

@SeverityOne Ah, I was thinking of a different battle and airport. If I had a nickel for every time the Dutch built an airport over an old naval battle, I'd have (at least) two nickels! Which isn't a lot, but it's weird it happened twice.

[@SeverityOne]

@@hanzzel6086 Just as an aside, no lakes in the Netherlands were ever filled in. Draining them with windmills was the only viable option. The land is _very_ flat, with only some low hills in the extreme south-east, wedged between Belgium and the Netherlands. There is simply not enough material to fill in any lakes with. Least of all the Haarlemmermeer, which was enormous by Dutch standards. I'm not sure what other battle this would be. (It's been a _very_ long time since I had Dutch history in school.) What I can find is another naval battle between the same two belligerent parties as the Battle of the Haarlemmermeer. The Battle of the Zuiderzee apparently was, contrary to the former, a victory for the Dutch rebels, and a turning point in the war of independence against the Spanish.

[@hanzzel6086]

@SeverityOne I was thinking of the 1801 Battle of Copenhagen. Which was a whole lot harder to look up than it has any right to be. Especially since I could only really remember Nelson being there, which skewed every search to Trafalgar.

[@AudieHolland]

Note: the Boeing 747 was specifically designed to be a freighter, that is why it has a bump. Combined with a freightdoor in the nose, this allows on-off loading while the crew can remain in place and overall makes the process more efficient. EDIT: a similarly designed cargo plane that preceded the 747 was the much smaller Convair ATL98.

[@MightyMezzo]

The fuselage was sized to accommodate shipping containers, two across.

[@ZGryphon]

IIRC, the original proposal for the airliner version extended the upper deck to the full length of the fuselage, but at the time no one was sure how an emergency evacuation of that many passengers could be accomplished in a reasonable length of time, so they scaled it back a bit.

[@igrim4777]

No, it was specifically designed at the request of Pan-Am as a passenger aircraft that could be converted to a freighter for when the bottom fell out of the sub-sonic passenger market.

[@ZGryphon]

@@igrim4777 You're sort of both right. The design originated with a military cargo aircraft project that ended up being dropped before reaching the prototype stage. A while later, when Juan Trippe came shopping for a giant airliner, Boeing dusted off that abandoned freighter design and reworked it into the 747 we know.

[@Monsterpala]

good thing they have functions for avoiding Boing planes on most websites - 4% of the fleet doesn t sound like a small number.

[@nicklager1666]

I do remember this rather vividly. I was at my grandparents. At the evening we watched the local news here in Sweden. And as a young man at the time the image of the apartment building being cut in half has been imprinted in my memory. Something about the immense devastation made a impression on me. Cant say i remember much of what was said about it, But really was it needed to be said too much the images spoke for themselves.

[@3v068]

Thanks for the good music and entertaining history John! Currently typing this in a very sunny Saturday morning in Austin Texas.

[@SupersuMC]

One notable airplane disaster that I'm sure you're familiar with as a musician: The Day The Music Died.

[@cyphi474]

"Simple design oversight." Trademark of Boening....

[@tosspot1305]

Runway 01 LEFT. Runways are either LEFT, CENTRE or RIGHT, not lima, charlie or romeo

[@bravobird9435]

Remember everyone plainly difficult is very happy and would never game end himself

[@Cramblit]

"The resulting fire killed everyone aboard" No I can assure you, everyone was dead the moment that plane impacted the building. There was nothing left of anyone for a fire to burn.

[@ZucchiniSlayer]

Awesome to hear a DB callout, Chloe and her channel are fantastic, would highly recommend.

[@john1703]

"That queue for compensation isn't getting any shorter." It now includes two astronauts on the ISS. Boeing is in deep 💩

[@TheRuben_music]

Well this is way before Boeing merged with McDouglas

[@Wasko1312]

Expressing condolences is never a task one looks forward to, but it's so important to show sympathy when someone has lost a loved one.

[@maestrovso]

What I observed is the regulation requirement to protect the wing fails to see what could happen with the engine is at high thrust with the plane at cruising speed. I infer the pilon design has three struts with their respective fuse points. When one breaks as intended, what would the engine do under high trust and high air speed? The engine didn't fall clear of the plane but took out the adjacent engine, as well as crippled the aircraft with the damaged wing.

[@Smokasaurus]

Just one point. You referred to a runway designation ending with "Lima". This is actually the one situation where the airline industry would just say "Left". They always refer to runways as right and left not Romeo and Lima.

[@vintagethrifter2114]

Half of those deaths were the result of two 747s colliding on the runway, one colliding with another aircraft in the air, two being blown out of the air by terrorists (TWA 800 is debatable) and one being shot out of the air by the Soviet Union.

[@phalanx3803]

no it was 583 the total is 3,746 so its 15.5%. as for TWA 800 its 50/50 boing and airline. HV wires should have never been bundled with LV wires and the airline should have had the wiring inspected more often as they would have seen it was degraded and in need of replacing. also you could say the Tenerife disaster was partly on the aircraft industry as a whole how is it with communication being so important that is it possible 2 radios to talk over one another? there should be a lockout that stops others from transmitting when someone else is had this been in place one plane would have heard the other and could have avoided this.

[@vintagethrifter2114]

@@phalanx3803 Do you know what a comma means? It means that there are six aircraft. The total combined loss of life was over 1,700. This isn't even counting the passengers on the Ilyushin 76 or the people at Lockerbie.

[@phalanx3803]

@vintagethrifter2114 yeah cuz you went and edited it after i posted my reply.

[@vintagethrifter2114]

@@phalanx3803 Nice try. I edited it 15 hours ago to clarify that the second collision happened in the air. Seven people had already read and understood my comment before you failed to comprehend it. You also mentioned TWA 800 which was halfway down the list.

[@phalanx3803]

@@vintagethrifter2114 your comment was made 22 hours ago the last edit is marked at 7 hours ago.

[@BarneySaysHi]

De Bijlmerramp. I've read a lot about it, but I didn't know that there were other 747's with the same problem. Thank you for researching.

[@hanzzel6086]

Uh, I literally *just* finished watching the Mayday episode of this... Are you stalking me Mr. Difficult?

[@tsukune007]

I remember this being an episode on Nat. Geo channel called Seconds from Disaster

[@custardo]

I don't have a airplane disaster but there is an interesting railway disaster that happened in the 1960s in the Netherlands, the Harmelen train disaster, a rare head-on collision.

[@rvdb7363]

This is the first time I hear about this crash. Even though I live only a few kilometers from the crash site. I just saw some pictures of what was left of the trains...

[@teamrohver]

My sister lived directly across from the Groeneveen building. We went to see her the day after, I'll never forget what it looked like. So many people crying, mountains of flowers laid down. It was very shocking to my 7 yr old self

[@notorioustori]

I'm not first but I'm a fan! Here for my Saturday morning dose of Plainly Difficult! ❤

[@PlainlyDifficult]

thank you!!

[@maxedberg4354]

Shout out to the Queen Chloe hell yeah! She makes such in depth and respectful content!❤

[@richard8417]

Have you ever looked into the fireworks disaster that happened in Enschede, The Netherlands?

[@2Fast4Mellow]

Or the New Years disaster in Volendam.

[@321Jarn]

Yeah but the fireworks disaster is a bit controversial. Some say if it were only fireworks the disaster couldn't have been that big, and with an alleged eye witness they pieced together it weren't only fireworks but actual explosives that caused most of the damage. It were allegedly landmines, faulty landmines that were not disposed of but instead stored in the middle of a big city, next to the actual fireworks.

[@CoMorbiditty]

Holy heck, it nose dived!!! That must have been something else to see.

[@admiral_franz_von_hipper5436]

6:04 Just a note here, it is right, centre, or left for runway designators, not the phonetic alphabet of R, C, or L. The runway here would be pronounced as “zero one left”.

[@MAZdarling]

This one always fascinated and terrified me. I’m glad to see it covered here.

[@stephielulu9096]

Flew to Holland not long after and saw the aftermath out of the window

[@SeverityOne]

*Netherlands

[@gwyneddboom2579]

@@SeverityOnetechnically Schiphol is in Holland

[@SeverityOne]

@@gwyneddboom2579 And Frankfurt International Airport is in Hessen. I'm yet to meet the first person who said 'I flew to Hessen.'

[@stephielulu9096]

@@SeverityOne Holland. I'm half dutch or is that Netherlandish?!

[@groeacht8525]

The photo background illustrations are a big step up

[@yomama9567]

Planely difficult

[@jessicaduncan9309]

I was a teenager when the Evergreen flight had it’s incident. A significant piece of the engine landed in a parking lot. It’s a very dangerous runway, over a cliff and the ocean, with residences not far from the end of the tarmac. Those pilots did a legendary job of bringing that plane back. You know we had to go find the engine. Insanely big in person. And yet, flying commercially is one of the safest means of travel. Cars are the most dangerous thing we do every day. Go figure

[@DuRoehre90210]

Wasn't that a double disaster? Some toxic stuff has been leaked and poisoned people later? I vaguely remember watching some documentary.

[@matsvanzelm7220]

Part of the load of the aircraft was military stuff. The authorities were not clear about this, freight documents were never made public. Probably there were ingredients for chemical weapons on board which were to be used for research in Israel. Off course this was all secret and kept silent bij the authorities. First responders and surviving residents of the building later got complaints caused by chemicals, possibly those secret chemicals or maybe by chemicals caused by very hot burning of airplane wreckage. As far as I know it’s still not clear.

[@Coastal_Cruzer]

It was a precursor for nerve gas

[@BaneKing57]

I'm surprised Mayday Air Disaster didn't cover this. That's a fascinating channel too

[@nobleheart9802]

Im surprised he hasnt covered the Palmer Chocolate explosion in Pennsylvania

[@PlainlyDifficult]

Thanks for the suggestion

[@GearGuardianGaming]

heh, reminds me of the boston molasses flood

[@SupersuMC]

​@@GearGuardianGaming Ooh, that's a classic.

[@jackbk2721]

Happy 1 mill ill be adding to that :) Great video!

[@CarbonKevin]

Your "Totaled in accidents" figure is simply wrong. Anytime an aircraft is damaged and insurance elects not to repair it, that is a hull loss. If a parked aircraft is damaged and not repaired - say, shot up on the ground by a militia, or blown up bt terrorists (happened to FIVE 747s), those are hull losses. I'm assuming this was an honest misuse of terms, but I'd encourage you to look up the Wikipedia article called "Boeing 747 hull losses" and come back and tell me if the reality is a bit different than the stat you presented may suggest. Interestingly, a significant proportion (seven incidents) were mishandling while taxiing, clear pilot and airport mismanagements. Lastly, TWO 747s were destroyed while being cleaned due to use of flammable cleaners. Read the whole list. You should come away knowing that while the 747 has had its share of issues, there were some truly ugly incidents that the plane, and its four engines, allowed all passengers and crew to land and walk away from. Hardly the bad plane some would claim.

[@henryptung]

Even then, the colloquial usage of "totaled" usually refers to "total wreck", whereas it actually means "total loss/repair cost exceeding market value" in professional use. That's still not correct terminology for the cited stat, but it's another layer of misinterpretation on the pile. Disappointing to see. I'd expect better given his other work, but maybe I've been too trusting.

[@ac300]

I like this guy. Correcting the dude instead of being a sychophant. Good man.

[@austinreid3951]

i came down to the comments looking for this. Boeing may have issues but the 747 is one of the most produced aircraft in history, and just by levels of scale its bound to have accidents. And even with those accidents, its a plane with an exceedingly good record. So i was a tad dissapointed to hear that. Its a shame that the issues Boeing currently has (brought on by their MD merger) is being retroactively applied to their, up to that point, exceedingly good history.

[@that_one_rail_dude]

i have a suggestion for you: the 1962 harmelen train disaster, its a really interesting topic and i'd like to see what you make of it, your video's stay interesting to watch!

[@mray8519]

Boeing fired the entire engineering team assigned to the 747 project the moment the plane passed its certs. THINK ON THAT.

[@SquishyRogue]

not exactly a plane, but I woke up this morning and thought "oh you know, I'd love for John to do a shortform video on the Apollo 1/Challenger/Columbia disasters. Would be really great for showing my nieces they love his videos." so I figured that at this point I'd comment it!

[@je6874]

2:32 what is that black and white block at the top right corner of the video? It’s always in Plainly Difficult videos but what’s the meaning?

[@PaddingtonBearScare]

It's called a Cue Mark and it's used in the UK to signify an advert is about to be shown :)

[@beegreen249]

​@@PaddingtonBearScare oh cool

[@Matt_The_Hugenot]

To not recover any trace of the CVR from a crash site on land is extremely unusual. According to the investigation report they simply took the El Al technicians'word for it that it was installed.

[@jpe1]

3:39 "[you can use PIA VPN to get around] region locked content" whilst showing UK flag… unfortunately all of PIA's IP addresses in the UK are known to the BBC, and content is still blocked. I know, I used to use PIA, but they can't unblock BBC content. If you try you will get a very polite message from the BBC explaining that they know what you are trying to do, and that they won't give it to you.

[@djinn5658]

I'm already scared silly of flying, WHY do I keep putting myself through watching this type of videos?! 😵‍💫

[@DisasterBreakdown]

Oh Hey! There's Me!!

[@paulkornbluh6303]

Great work as always, John! If you're looking for an idea for your next video, how about the second Cavalese cable car disaster (the one where a military aircraft sliced the cable)?

[@ArmadaOne]

Thanks for mentioning Chloe, her channel Disaster Breakdown has great airplane crash documentaries that are very well presented and factual.

[@Joze1090]

Every time you say "my name is John" I say "hello John" in my head 😅

[@Acrowat40]

This was an awful accident - nothting the flight crew could do... Thank god it was just a cargo flight

[@markmilan8365]

After the investigation it was found that not extending the flaps was still possible at least to reach Schiphol, the speed was probably too high to safely land but at least they did not crush in any building.