Engines of Amtrak - EMD SDP40F

[@northwoodsrailproductions4538]

“You couldn’t live with the past, so where did it bring you? Right back here to me”

[@CNMikado]

Old but the was perfect that put a smile on my face so you my friend earned a like

[@evanveres7483]

Isn’t it just “Back to me”

[@biker944]

vcool

[@tom-and-mom]

5:50

[@tom-and-mom]

6:29 Sloshing out...

[@Jamiak.P]

I’m glad that Engines Of Amtrak is getting remade and what a way to kick off this remastered series keep up the great work Amtrakguy365.

[@FPHFan]

F40PH 90208 I thought you were dead

[@Jamiak.P]

Yes I am

[@FPHFan]

Are you in heaven right now

[@Jamiak.P]

Well on the inside anyway

[@FPHFan]

Do you remember getting scrapped?

[@CaptainJoey63]

*flashback to GE Genesis episode* “You didn’t talk about the F59PHI, and it’s MY favorite engine”

[@Fadhiil5112]

"And it is STILL in service for your information!.."

[@jetseekers]

He already said in a previous vid that CoasterFan2105 did a good video on that loco. Tho he may still do one in this revamped series

[@gladwinthefox2204]

But you did the F40 and AEM-7 And so did Coasterfan2105!

[@StocktonSubber]

Josh Brony/train/pilot “Shhh. It’ll be ok. Don’t go breaking your keyboard. Back to the video”

[@WindyCityExpeditionist]

Hm, I wonder who owns it now, I remember now! It's located in the midwest, say some commuter rail road that connects to 5/6 class one railroads.

[@robertjanicki5906]

I was the EMD-GMC District Engineer in Los Angeles from 1973 to 10/31/85. Amtrak was my secondary service account with the Southern Pacific Transportation Co. (SP Railroad) being my primary service account. I was EMD's service department interface with Amtrak, the SP and a handful of copper mine accounts in Utah, Arizona and New Mexico. I would spend about two half days a week at Amtrak's maintenance facility between the LA River and Santa Fe Avenue in Los Angeles. As District Engineer I would provide technical advice and information on the installation, operation and maintenance of EMD locomotives operated by Amtrak and was intimately familiar with what locomotives Amtrak ran out of Los Angeles. That has been so long ago, 35 years, it seems like a dream. Thanks for this video. It brought back a lot of memories that I haven't thought of in those 35 years since leaving EMD and after 19 and a half years with EMD.

[@MemeReviewer]

Love the G-Man intro, Fits so well.

[@1230james]

I thought I accidentally clicked on a Valve News Netwotk or that an ad was playing at first lmao

[@trainmemes9115]

Ah yes, the legend has returned.

[@churrodead7191]

the legend 27

[@oliviawhite8833]

Yes

[@robertbalazslorincz8218]

Gotta storm utub HQ for what they did

[@realcanadian67]

Yes it is called eggs of Amsterdam Overdue edit: Im not sure if this was supposed to be funny or not, i dont remember making this comment, it was 3 years ago pre-pandemic. Feel free to critique because im clueless to the meaning of the comment and im to bothered to watch the video again.

[@penkagenova7073]

I had to laugh my ass off for that

[@traindev1]

@@penkagenova7073 It wasn't even funny though

[@dvnrhillary]

@@penkagenova7073 Good sense of humor!

[@wcrails]

@@traindev1 how it that not funny?

[@vetterplane]

@@LJRailfan-Gamer_07. bruh. You dont get the fucking joke. r/whoosh

[@spekt909]

Welp, I have never been this early. last time I was, Amtrak was on time.

[@nekomasteryoutube3232]

the funny thing I find with unrealiable transit is that sometimes when you try to be ontime, its early and leaves before you get there :D

[@MrBigMac9647]

I would argue about this but I have to say its true

[@WesternOhioInterurbanHistory]

1:20 not a bad thing, GG1's are reliable as hell, and were in service for 50 years.

[@Mnrr6131]

They were in service until 1979/80 because the AEM-7 entered service in 79

[@WesternOhioInterurbanHistory]

@@Mnrr6131 Actually until 1983 kzbin.info/www/bejne/qnSZiGOOetaCgtk

[@Crlarl]

The GG1 is one sexy electric.

[@AndrewTheRocketCityRailfan4014]

Parts were however becoming scarce into the 80s, one of few signs the GG1s needed replacements, not to mention they were big

[@loubna1627]

J g brill bullet cars says let me introduce my self

[@wasatchrangerailway6921]

The SDP40F was a damn good locomotive! When I was investigating the derailment problem, there was always on common denominator---poor track conditions!

[@nathancorcoran5347]

They were amazing locomotives, despite the issues.

[@wasatchrangerailway6921]

@@nathancorcoran5347 When two SDP40Fs were on the point, the derailments always happened when the second one was facing to the rear! When the water in the big tanks was swinging from side to side in unison, it caused the rails to spread with the trucks under the second unit derailing, and taking most of the train with it!!! If the two units were coupled in elephant style, the water sloshing in the second units tank wasn't enough to roll the rail over on its own! The derailments always occured when the two were ass end to ass end! If EMD would've just baffled the tanks, the wrecks would've just faded into history, but EMD saw dollar signs with the manufacture of the replacements to the SDP40F, the F40PH!!! If everything would've worked out the way we had hoped, the SDP45F (20 cylinders) was on the drawing board!!!

[@nathancorcoran5347]

@@wasatchrangerailway6921 I already understand.

[@rearspeaker6364]

@@wasatchrangerailway6921 you are dead on point!!

[@Slim_Slid]

At least a portion of these units got prolonged usage as SDF40-2 rebuilds for ATSF...Without derailments. 18 SDP40F's were traded to ATSF (5250-5267) so that Amtrak could get 43 light duty units such as 25 CF7's & 18 SSB1200's. The SDP40F's for ATSF were heavily rebuilt and modified for freight service while 4 SDP40F's in addition went back to EMD as testbed units (EMDX 134, 169, 218, and 268) and were repainted into the demonstrator scheme. EMDX 268 in particular became a prototype and was redesignated as an F50CM with AC traction motors. That unit and one of the other SDP40F's were scrapped. The SDP40F's as rebuilt SDF40-2's for ATSF survived well after the BNSF merge until 2001 & 2002, which was pretty much the end times of the cowled units. Before all of them were retired and sent to the deadline in Topeka Kansas one of the SDF40-2's was involved in a wreckage within Cajon Pass and suffered from frame damage. It was used as a parts donor until becoming scrap. The same fate was towards the other SDF40-2's in deadline storage being stripped of parts until inevitably getting scrapped.

[@ROTE]

Engines of Amtrak and Train talk are my favorite series!

[@lowcountryplanespotter2816]

Railfaner 232 same

[@superbaddy4]

R.I.P. that F40PH "Beat Their Meat Over" joke from the original video

[@vitissubrailfan2540]

oof.

[@YaoboyExperiences]

Forgot to mention Metra's F40C units. Double oof.

[@russellgxy2905]

Missed this by an hour but damn this is a huge improvement over the original! I actually had no clue that 644 actually ran again after being preserved, and knowing that two more survive as test units is even more surprising! Now I'm even more hyped for thee next episode as you review the PHI's! Keep up the good work!

[@StationRailfan]

I clicked on this video to see "Eggs of Amsterdam", but this was much better.

[@TheAustinSubRailfan]

0:25 when railfans ascend to heaven this is what they hear Beautiful sound!

[@sumeetbeniwal6365]

Mhm

[@lilcattythewildnorwester7786]

Incredible Job on the remade Episode of Amtrak SDP40F & Welcome back

[@tedhead1042]

Holy crap, first of all, what a huge twist to pull up with the insane editing and crazy microphone quality switch. Second of all, I want to thank you for using the Great Northern locomotive designs as Great Northern's original RR is close to me and it's one of my favorite RR companies, keep up with the amazing content!

[@ICrailroadprod.2007]

Best Amtrak loco ever.

[@danielmaloney128]

It is nice to see you again AmtrackGuy365

[@ShawnTheDriver]

6:47 THIS WAS PURE GOLD omg

[@spark9540]

You know, I just wanna say this. As a British person, I generally have little to no interest in American railroads, or anything outside of the UK. I just find them dull, uninteresting etc. But I find myself time and time again coming back to this series. Just everything about it keeps me engaged and interesting, which is surprising considering my lack of interest in the topic. So, I'm so glad that this series is getting remade, and that you're making an already great series, even better. Hats off to you my guy.

[@speedster1093]

I like the GG1 and f/e series. Great locomotives for Amtrak. Best Amtrak loco ever has got to be the f40ph. ❤️

[@rearspeaker6364]

if the F40PH had all the water, in the same positions as the SDP40, it would have been a flop too.

[@cloudthelibrarian9651]

F40PH: Your weak. SDP40F And P30CH: I'm You.

[@cloudthelibrarian9651]

Zeta0001 Yeah, Although, I Kinda Like The SDP40F.

[@neilexploreology]

The P30CH and SDP40F are the F40PH's mom and dad! :)

[@762Media42]

You've made a already good series even better, well done I'm excited for the next episodes Cheers from Australia

[@ICrailroadprod.2007]

The SDP40F had the greatest horns ever. Leslie SL-4T horns are the best.

[@notjojopo27rblx59]

Me: sees a amtrak 3 story car. Also me: wait, thats illegal.

[@learn_with_gern]

Just finished watching Engines of Amtrak recently. A surprise to see more for sure, but a welcome one!

[@entitygames9751]

Your videos are AMAZING!! They are both funny and informative. Thank you for making these videos :)

[@oliviawhite8833]

It feels so nice that it's back

[@mgr_video_productions]

Great video! I love this remake and the added info. This video series is how I found your channel back in 2017. And I've been enjoying your videos since.

[@pahogger]

This reminds me of the PRR’s T1 story with their wheel slippage issue, they were scrapped before a remedy could be found. It’s crazy that EMD could have built such an engine with design flaws, after building similar engines for the Santa Fe. All things considered, the SDP40F’s are one of my favorite Amtrak engines. Thanks for the video, it’s very enjoyable!

[@amtrakinoscale9811]

The T1 is kind of a different story though. The Raymond Loewy streamlining did not lend itself to easy maintenance, which led to poor maintenance and corresponding performance. Another factor of note is the valve gear. The very tiny handful of T1s that were equipped with Walschaerts valve gear performed much better and more predictably as far as wheelslip goes than the rest that were equipped with Franklin B1 poppet valves. The poppet valves were incorrectly made and were not rotary cam, which did not help. A third major factor is the majority of crews simply didn’t know how to run the T1s properly, thinking it could be run like a K4s on steroids. Didn’t work that way, which caused lots of wheelslip.

[@amtrakinoscale9811]

It’s also interesting to note that EMD built similar engines for the Milwaukee Road as well. They built what was essentially an SDP40F but with HEP instead of steam generators. It was called the F40C. Seemed by then EMD had learned from their mistakes, thank goodness. The F40Cs were a great success and served the Milwaukee faithfully until the end of Milwaukee-run commuter services. Metra took over the Milwaukee services, and the F40Cs continued to serve their new owner happily, soldiering on until the mid-2000s.

[@Slim_Slid]

EMD already had issues with other units, not just the SDP40F's. The SD45's, SD45-2's, SD45T-2's, F45's, FP45's, SDP45's, and SD45M's all had crankshaft failures. The 645E7's were just too much that caused serious stress or block flex which was a primary cause for fractured frames. That's why many units were rebuilt or derated to avoid those problems. The main problem with the SDP40F's was weight distribution involving the water tanks and steam generators. At the same time it doesn't help that Amtrak has horrible trackage conditions. The units that went to ATSF and were modified as well as redesignated into SDF40-2's lasted several years after the BNSF merge. 4 SDP40F's were sent back to EMD and repainted into demostrator livery but listed as testbed units.

[@I_just_like_trains]

You do not know how happy I am to see you doing the series again and remaking the videos that got copyrighted keep up the good work

[@nathancorcoran5347]

That is still happening all the way to now.

[@dizguy89]

Awesome video!!! Super excited that you redid the original!!

[@TitoQuintana1]

1975, the first time going from Va. to Ca. was on a train pulled by that engine. As a kid I thought it was so cool. When I started model railroading it was the first engine I bought, I still run it today 29 years later.

[@Lucius_Chiaraviglio]

Wow, this actually has some new stuff in it. And now I want to see Eggs of Amsterdam . . . .

[@reesochacon1448]

You know what? I like this newer version better. Usually, the content suffers 1:14 as a result of being taken down for copyright reasons. I also was hyped regarding the Sonic reference. Good on you, mate. I hope that no copyright law in the universe will ever stop you now.

[@markschroeder2578]

Interesting video. It should be noted that Amtrak intended to convert the SDP40Fs to HEP. One of those 2 steam generators was mounted on a skid (the other one was permanently mounted) to facilitate it's change out with a HEP alternator driven by an auxiliary diesel engine. Also the first F40PHs were bought for short-haul corridor service. To replace the SDP40Fs, Amtrak had to order the F40PHs with bigger fuel tanks. Many F40PHs have been converted to material handling/cab control cars, colloquially referred to as "cabbage" cars, for push-pull trains.

[@Ostermond]

It's good to have you back!

[@sirrliv]

Love the slick new presentation and deeper dive here. Bravo, sir. A worthy second draft of an already excellent series. Wishing you the best of luck in bringing the full series up to current standards bit by bit.

[@TheTacticalAviator]

Am I the only one that loves to watch these after a few drinks?

[@stalkinghorse883]

A few SDP40F's were fitted with pass through HEP cables and run with F40PH's.

[@_LLevi_]

Great vid! It is sad that only 3 of those locos exist, but it is better than nothing......

[@luv2fly452]

AG365, sweet video and very informative. I rode on Amtrak in the 70's from Florida to NY being pulled by those SDP40F engines.

[@epiclad9685]

I love the remastered version! Keep up the good work!

[@claytonrowe8103]

This series is very much needed. I hope that if/when the sole survivor or the 2 others become operational you'll append them into this. Thanks!

[@vpisarski]

Love it! Great redo. Very excited for the F59phi!

[@simpsons4567]

Glad your back to making videos love the series

[@davechupp7922]

Thank you for your effort in putting together this video. You offered a wealth of valuable historical information.

[@amtrak462productions4]

Awesome Video! This is the best Engines of Amtrak episode yet!

[@kevincook7524]

Telling us about the problems it had as well as showing us is what I love about this, and I hope for more in the future! Keep em' coming!

[@eggballo4490]

That intro was like an Amtrak creepypasta.

[@harrisonofcolorado8886]

Horray! Engines of Amtrak returns!

[@q.h.s5051]

I was just thinking of binge watching this series again. Glad to see some nice remakes coming soon. This was really cool. I am a fan of this locomotive for the look and less of the disasters it went through

[@average_joe8905]

Glad you brought this series back, keep up the great work man!

[@alexstaf2000]

I liked the original EOA a lot, but damn this is a thousand times greater! Keep up the good work!

[@salemite]

Oh no way! I always wondered why there was a random blue engine moving freight around in weird back rail areas in the Portland Metro. I feel so much wiser now.

[@cabcar82]

That intro though. Yes I'm glad this is back!

[@jfreelan1964]

A good remake. I find it worth sharing.

[@amtrak462productions4]

Believe it or not 5 SDP40F units might still exist today! 509, 531, 569, 609 and 644! 509 became EMDX 218 in the early 80s and just like you mentioned there is not that much information on it other than that google maps image. 531 was retired in 1981 and went to EMDX and was rebuilt into an F50CM test bed unit with the number 268. There are a few photos of the locomotive in 1988 in Illinois as an EMD demonstrator unit with AC traction motors. I have no idea where the engine is today. 569 was retired by Amtrak in 1977 or 1978 and went to EMDX and was numbered 134. It was used on different types of test trains in 1979. It was probably scrapped not long after that, but there still is a chance that it still exists today. 609 became EMDX unit 169 and as mentioned in the video at 14:19 there is not much info on them other than the google maps image. You already explained what happened to 644 between 12:12 and 14:04.

[@Slim_Slid]

I had no idea that there was an F50CM prototype, on top of that being a testbed unit with AC traction motors. I know that 4 SDP40F's went back to EMD and became testbed units while being repainted into the demonstrator livery. Now I know what was going on individually for every unit and the background on top of that, thank you very much for this. I acquired 3 SDP40F body shells over a month ago from a fellow modeler's collection whom unfortunately passed away earlier this year. The body shells aren't painted minus most of the details already put into place. Two of them will be modeled into the modified ATSF SDF40-2's which became of the SDP40F's that they purchased from AMTK. I want the third unit to be one of the EMDX units, which you've greatly informed about. But I know now that I want to model that one as EMDX 268. Once again, thank you for writing about all of the information.

[@southwestlimitedproduction9738]

Nice Remastered SDP40F Episode Nice Job Keep up the good work

[@Alerrecks]

YES! And more EOA videos are coming? What's not to love!? Legend has it Engines of NYC may still happen someday...

[@ferris-fam]

Oh my gosh!!! It’s back Engines of Amtrak is back!!!

[@jacksonskyline]

YAY!!! You’re doing the F59!!!

[@jerseyrailbuff4147]

I have to say, good job man, this was way better than the original! Keep at it!

[@Pensyfan19]

Great to see this back! This series has inspired my own series of locomotive documentaries! The new background music and imagery is a nice touch. Great improvement from the original series! :D Another thing too: when you use video and horn samples, do you have to ask permission from the original user or is ok to give credit to the user in the video?

[@justahillbilly7777]

Me oh my how yer editin' skills have improved. Well done man. It's great to see just how much you've grown. Edit: Replaced far with much.

[@maxrailroad]

Great work. Happy to see this series return!

[@nathancorcoran5347]

Love the Amtrak SDP40F.

[@jam_brubs]

honestly, this was better than the original. I really y enjoyed it also if you are ever going to sale merch may I suggest stickers of the cover page locomotives

[@BILL-2002hst]

Excellent remake of the original and I love the extra information

[@malachimuhammad-dy2ow]

I think the SDP40F was the first passenger diesel for Amtrak's intercity services. Pulling both steam heated, and superliner trains. They were also the stars of Amtrak's intercity long distance services.

[@chatanugadotorg]

Interesting that Chessie System banned them from their routes in 1976, but in the 1980 and 1981 Ohio Division timetables that I have, they have the SDP40F listed under (if I remember right) speed restrictions.

[@jeffshadow2407]

My 1976 GMC Motorhome will be painted as SDP40F # 644 next year! In Amtrak Phase II colors. I have painted a 2000 Oldsmobile Silhouette GL and a 2005 Buick Terraza CXL likewise in the recent past.

[@blackbirdgaming8147]

One thing I think you should have mentioned is how the SDP40Fs in their later years (especially Phase III) were equipped with HEP run-through cables. Helps explain to the uninitiated how Amtrak was able to successfully mix SDP40Fs and F40PHs. Great video regardless.

[@ALTheCollie]

The railroads were suffering "dreadfully. And no one cares." Nice reference. Haven't heard from this series in a long-*ss time.

[@theinternexperience890]

you're editing gets better with every video, I can't wait to see what you make next

[@IGuessIDoThings]

Funny coincidence, this video turns 3 years old today, May 13, and today also happens to be Train Day in Toledo, Ohio

[@himbourbanist]

Man seeing the old footage of the state of the infrastructure and equipment that Amtrak inherited from the collapsing private railroads really brings to my mind just how much Amtrak has improved in the last 40 years. They went from "yeah there's no way this is going to last long, everyone is going to forget about Amtrak and trains" to "biggest funding boost and expansion plans in the history of American passenger rail" in like, a generation

[@Northwest_Railfan]

Just got clarification, the Northwest Rail Museum associated with the 644 is a different organization than the Northwest Railway Museum. Northwest Rail Museum was basically a precursor to the current Oregon Rail Heritage Foundation, while the Northwest Railway Museum, whose logo you showed, is an unrelated museum in Snoqualmie, WA. Great video though! -Aaron

[@sergefeuze9249]

At least we have e and f units still around

[@LongIslandCityLayout]

Very informative! I actually knew nothing about the SDP40F. Very informational.

[@emmanuelsavage1271]

Well detailed! Learned a bit more about this troubled loco and that there's still a happy ending!

[@TalenGryphon]

I knew from your references and jokes in the first minute and a half of video that I would like this channel. I would like to see you do a video on the venerable F40PH that superseded these engines

[@paulj6756]

Interesting that Milwaukee Road operated the similar F40C, which later went to Metra, and didn't have any derailment issues with them.

[@rearspeaker6364]

they didn't carry 1800 gallons of water over the rear truck in un baffled tanks.

[@paulj6756]

@@rearspeaker6364 And look how well the SDP40Fs worked as freight locomotives for the Santa Fe, once they had those water tanks removed. The water tanks were just one of the suspected culprits. Santa Fe never had problems with the SDP40Fs.

[@WindyCityExpeditionist]

This video gives me a big brain and I have knowledge now.

[@shipbuilding1000]

Great job on the video. I never knew any of the SDP40F's made it into phase III paint, or that Amtrak still had them in 1987!

[@CSX_Doolittle]

I really like th phase 3 pain for it it looks a lot cooler than the phase 2

[@trevorderper5050]

and what I consider far better than any amtrak paint scheme is phase v because of it's ocean like feel

[@goldgamercommenting2990]

Hey Amtrakguy365, I found out that in the 1970’s, the SDP40F helped assist an excursion trip with 4449 and it went successful for both locomotive Luckily the steam engine’s weight cause problems for the sdp40f and helped it stay stable and prevent the common accidents that we see with the diesels at that time.

[@SouRwy4501Productions]

I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again. If Amtrak had simply converted their sdp40f locomotives to HEP, we could have seen them hold on alongside the f40phs. I personally modified an Athearn blue-box sdp40f to be a representation of what an HEP-equipped sdp40f would look like.

[@helmutsandner867]

Very enjoyable presentation. Thanks

[@kansasstatealerting717]

I was confused at first then I realized you had remade the video lol.

[@TheMNrailfan227]

This is a big refresher I needed

[@aVinylDaniel]

Awsome! I think the thing youtube did to you was a blessing in disguise. This video is way better than the original! Also, even though it's not an amtrak engine, could you do a video on the E8s of F7s? I run only those right now on my HO layout so i would be nice to know more about them. Thanks! :)

[@tonyromano6220]

Amtrack is an example of the Fed never stopping a program.

[@jessterry3137]

this is the best video remake you ever had😃

[@aidanstuart4835]

This is a wonderful educational video! I am looking forward to more!

[@Vxllain]

AHHHHHH!!! EOA BEING REMADE??! YOU JUST MADE QUARANTINE MUCH BETTER

[@rickboivin7732]

@2:38 Cassidy Tire with Nothing nearby. That's amazing.

[@sarahbethsmile]

Down here we have a railroad museum called the Galveston railroad museum and it started back in the early 1840’s as a train station

[@raymondleggs5508]

One thing about Amtrak's creation is that it saved tons of old Heavyweight ad smoothside coaches for preservation :-D

[@railfanmaximstill7279]

6:48 If you don't know what harmonic vibrations are he explains it perfectly here. @Amtrakguy365 were you at one point a science teacher or in a science class. Because that was a perfect explanation.