Engines of SEPTA AEM 7

[@Cards8114]

Actually, I heard two of these locomotives (Amtrak owned) would go to the Joint Powers Board Fleet (JPBX, CalTrain) for testing on the Newly Electrified Corridor in 2021. They are currently sitting at Transportation Technology Center awaiting transfer until the 25kV overhead catenary is installed.

[@zachpetersen9425]

929, 938

[@StocktonSubber]

The story of the Toaster isn’t over. Last year, Caltrain ordered some AEM7s for service after electrification is completed in 2021. The AEM7s will replace the F40s and MP36s with Metro-North M2s.

[@griffinrails]

TheSirexShow ALL ABOARD THE HYPE TRAIN

[@allengreen6460]

They will be missed aem-7 but acs-64 are now rolling the tracks of Philadelphia

[@anasiacameronelijahedcpndc4324]

But soon, they will be restored just like the steam engines, and they will should do that with diesel engines too.

[@lufthansaA300]

Same for amtraks too

[@ajjj4wood1]

But what if they all came back?

[@carlamacdonalded.s514]

“Sooooo you choose to stick with me. GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOŒD Mann “ lmao 😂

[@gloria6229]

I ordered those SEPTA ACS-64s #901-#915 in g scale at the g scale New River Gorge National Park and Preserve in Fayetteville West Virginia on the Paoli/Thorndale line, the Langhorne/Thorndale line, the Lansdale/Thorndale line, and the Lancaster/Thorndale/Paoli line.

[@mauricelong4678]

What's that song called at 12:43

[@gloria6229]

Some DCs were scrapped in Princeton West Virginia while others mainly the ACs are awaiting their fate at Princeton West Virginia in Wilmington Delaware.

[@MLRE100]

AMTK 900 and 903 were involved in the Chase Maryland train collision with some Conrail B36-7's, , also AMTK 601 was involved in the Frankford Junction derailment

[@adithyaramachandran7427]

I miss the AEM 7's 😥. Remember seeing them often on trains a decade ago. Now you can find them at the PRR museum or in the bay area.

[@flopsyrailwayproductions1434]

I went to see 945 at the Illinois railroad musem. Boy, that was fun for me.

[@coreypage2851]

I see the AEM-7s and ALP-44 on my way back from school. None have moved from the Morrisville yard since my winter break.

[@colbyjames7205]

As of today sadly their are no longer any surviving SEPTA EMD AEM-7's left all where cut up in 2022. Although in good news regarding Amtrak AEM-7's the good news you will get Pennsylvania Railway Museum has 915, AND Illinois Railway Museum has 945, But recently some days ago 917 from out of hiding was rescued to the Danbury Railway Museum last I heard being the 3rd AEM-7 to be saved and one of the earlier ones.

[@rickfeith6372]

Whats so special about this?? It's like a bus...and for some reason I LOVE IT!! Long live the flying brick. I still haven't ever seen an AEM-7 in person, but its had my heart since the mid 80s in a book I received as a kid about locomotives. The speed impressed me initially, but the design is what keeps me coming back. Its a sexy brick, plain and simple. 4:37 on the left side is the exact livery that started it all for me . ❤❤❤❤❤

[@gloria6229]

AEM-7s #938 & #929 were sold to Caltrain. AEM-7s #928 & #942 are at TTCI in Pueblo Colorado. AEM-7s #915 & #945 were preserved in Strasburg Pennsylvania and Union Illinois.

[@YaboyMX595]

5:41 I miss these horns

[@gloria6229]

The AEM-7s however weren't the very 1st engines to be used in push-pull services. Back in the 70s when regional rail was still operated by Conrail and the respective private railroads they used Ex-Reading F7s with 1 on each end and sometimes a 3rd if needed running on the diesel routes in the areas like Bethlehem Allentown Quakertown among other areas. But these services were cut in 1981 when diesel service was abolished.

[@gloria6229]

The AEM-7s however weren't the 1st engines used in push/pull services. Back in the 70s when regional railroads were still operated by Conrail and the respective private railroads they used Ex-Reading F7s with one on each end and sometimes a 3rd if needed running on the diesel routes in the areas like Bethlehem Allentown Quakertown among other areas.

[@rossescudero6170]

9:41 thats nice i wish the HHP-8 were still in service as in 2020

[@YaboyMX595]

You got Marc they still have them

[@MalachiM-cu9su]

MARC still has their HHP-8s

[@gloria6229]

The AEM-7s however, weren't the very 1st engines to be used in push-pull services. Back in the 70s, when regional rail was still operated by Conrail, and the respective private railroads, they used Ex-Reading F7s, with one on each end, and sometimes a 3rd if needed, running on the diesel routes in the areas like Bethlehem, Allentown, Quakertown, among other areas. But this was cut in 1981, when diesel service was abolished

[@malachimuhammad-dy2ow]

*Sniffs* I miss seeing them on the Manayunk-Norristown Line😪😪😪😪😪😪.

[@Ih8kone]

I think there are a few preserved at the Illinois Railroad Museum for excursions. (The museum has electric tracks)

[@Coloribus2004]

Apparently one of the major reasons why the GG1’s were pulled from service was the oil used for lubricanting the pantograph and engine was highly toxic. When they were all retired. The motors were carefully disposed of. We would need a brand new Electric generator for the GG1’s to run again.

[@theamazingtrainkidproducti6865]

may the aem-7s live in our hearts forever

[@MalachiM-cu9su]

Yes. The AEM-7s will always be in our hearts. And they will always be remembered.

[@malachimuhammad-dy2ow]

I'll miss seeing them on express and limited service at Jerome Brown Playground.

[@russellgxy2905]

2:12 Bro...that number was from a single month Also, there's still a future career for the AEM-7's. There are two in storage (I don't remember if they were Amtrak's or SEPTA's), intended for trial on CalTrain's proposed electrification in the San Fransisco Bay Area. If this is true, they'll be the first full-size electric locomotives to run in California in well over half a century!

[@griffinrails]

Russell Streak oof.mp3

[@dislikemyvids9222]

OOF 📉

[@gloria6229]

The Amtrak bodies are made by Budd, while the SEPTA and Marc ones are from the Austrian firm Simmering Graz Pauker AG. I do apologize if I pronounced that wrong.

[@malachimuhammad-dy2ow]

I saw the AEM-7s at the Jerome Brown Playground in 2017.

[@gloria6229]

2 commuter railroads however, watched Amtrak closely and were very impressed by the AEM-7 and thought, "Hey, let's get some of those engines and put them into commuter operations". Marc was the first railroad to put their foot in the water, purchasing 4 in 1986, #4900-#4903. SEPTA would follow in 1988 with 7 #2301-#2307.

[@UnionCountyPhotography]

Another cereal box hitting the ground. 0:00

[@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren]

?

[@UnionCountyPhotography]

I love that new intro

[@Lvk312]

Wwwwwwwwwwwhat

[@detroitserbian2687]

Thunderbolt 1000 Siren Productions it sounds like a cereal box hitting the floor

[@eightavmta]

Lol

[@Traintrooper]

This was uploaded on the same day as nyrailfan 202s engines of metro north

[@geofferywickline4846]

I am going to do what Norfolk Southern does use the AEM7s and ALP44 on work train service, switching service, and occasional regular passenger services.

[@jontemine]

The Rc4 locomotives (and most types of the Rc family of locomotives) are still running in Sweden.

[@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren]

I find that kinda ironic

[@Bregott07]

But only for freight services, the RC6 still carries passengers.

[@jorgeburgos3405]

Haven't you do the acs-64 locomotive for SEPTA and Amtrak

[@mozeskertesz6398]

What is the music at the "The rebirth of Push Pulls on Septa"?

[@EpicThe112]

AEM 7 December 8th 1987 service entry for Southeastern Pennsylvania Transit Authority this is taken from an Allentown Morning Call article.

[@Yawshi]

Nice video!! I would recommend you do the new Paoli Station

[@Poopsock14]

They literally just got all cut up today. RIP. End of an era. I was lucky enough to see one aem 7 in service last night when they moved them up to morrisville

[@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren]

I was there to see the funeral train. I'll update the description ASAP. They aren't cut up yet but they are awaiting that fate

[@Poopsock14]

@@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren yeah, it sucks. its cool they still have 915 on the east coast, maybe by some miracle NJT will do something with the alp's on the Lackawanna cutoff, but everyday that passes it seems less and less likely because they have already had essential components removed and they are severely rusted and neglected, but ya never know lol.

[@dweebteambuilderjones7627]

@@Poopsock14 4424 is in a museum!

[@malachimuhammad-dy2ow]

Thunderbolt, do you got two other AEM-7s doing limited services on the Wilmington/Newark, and the Paoli/Thorndale Line?

[@TheLongIslandRailfan]

Fact: Before the Penn Central merge, PRR owned LIRR until 1968. The LIRR steam locomotives, such as the G5s, had the PRR Keystone. I have the LIRR Keystone hat.

[@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren]

Yep.

[@Gojira160]

​@@Thunderbolt_1000_SirenI think the SEPTA's AEM-7 express engines can do express and limited services. Providing faster and smooth rides.

[@Kamberry-1]

Hey Thunder I’m a little confused around the 11:20 mark you said that SEPTA leased Amtrak 664 for testing in 2016, but said after testing was completed they bought ACS-64’s in 2014.

[@matslundgren228]

They still use the RC series in Sweden for cargo trains

[@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren]

Impressive considering their American counterparts are already retired

[@StocktonSubber]

Mats Lundgren after nearly 40 years? Damn.

[@g-manonthego6678]

Well, that’s the benefit of electric locomotives: due to the fact that they produce no emissions and are much easier and cheaper to maintain/operate, they can outlive diesel and steam locomotives.

[@nanetteescudero7655]

How come penn central suffer 649 derailments??

[@nanetteescudero7655]

Why didint you do the comet 1 cab car episode i want it to be open in june 10

[@Benthetrainkid]

You forgot to mention that 2 AMTK Toasters are at TTCI as of July 2017 (I have railcam footage of them in transit)

[@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren]

I didn't know if that was 100% true or not so I left it out. Also I forgot about that anyway due to how stressful and time consuming this video was getting. Thankfully the ALP-44 video will be shorter and easier to edit (hopefully)

[@Wes8761]

Whats the song at 1:35

[@prestonhaon7155]

Darude sandstorm

[@ateltoni]

4:50 you pronounced it nearly correctly, only the end with the “AG” are suppose to be pronounced separately, as “AG” is basically the german/austrian Incorporated.

[@Roaster_8310]

One thing about the AEM-7 steel cast of locomotive bell

[@billyp.9603]

Can you do an episode on the ACS-64

[@sumeetbeniwal6365]

I searched up about the aem-7 and found out something. Did you know that conrail ordered 10 aem-7s? Conrail was excited to take delivery of the aem-7s but then they canceled the orders

[@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren]

Heard no such information. CR was already killing off the electric program by then anyway. Sounds like a fake source unless there's proof

[@sumeetbeniwal6365]

@@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren wait maybe that was fake

[@gloria6229]

Why does Amtrak ACS-64 #664 have SEPTA logos?

[@kingdrownedyt5358]

Yeah following what dead inside said can you specifically do the engines of SEPTA adtranz m4 cars next

[@mbailon07]

6:03 the train looked like a short intercity passenger train set

[@Maunico0809]

The first sample of K5LA horns sounds like the NJT ALP-46 K5LA horns

[@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren]

Except not as foul. lol

[@Maunico0809]

But why

[@theguyemert9311]

6:24 A big mistake in my mind

[@edwardcole4623]

11:37 ooh The Legend

[@MiniforceRailfan]

AEM-7 SEPTA: Perfect Fit for Non Propelled Fleets of SEPTA

[@davidng2336]

I really hope that the ALP-44 gets preserved after NJT is done using it.

[@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren]

If they ever use it! lol

[@RDC2003]

@@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren 4424 is at boonton rr museum

[@Er0R-404-Studios]

NOW THATS A LOT OF DEARAILLMENT 649

[@harrisonofcolorado8886]

Lol the Flex tape joke!

[@justinerp4145]

What k Is the song during the F7 section its really cool

[@sumeetbeniwal6365]

Oh and did you know that 2 aem-7s owned by Amtrak were scraped after a short life? They were number 900 and 903. They both were involved in the chase md collision in 1987. They collided with 3 conrail c-38 locomotives. It killed 16 people. One of the conrail locomotives involved were scrapped while the two other conrail locomotives were repaired and put back in service

[@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren]

I knew bout that. Made a whole documentary on that incident

[@sumeetbeniwal6365]

@@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren well I know that

[@sumeetbeniwal6365]

The collision was Amtrak’s deadliest accident until the 1993 bib bayou wreck

[@MalachiM-cu9su]

Can the AEM-7s do local services, too?

[@TrainSounds]

Didn’t they also use the Trenton line?

[@malachimuhammad-dy2ow]

Yes.

[@liliasaavedra5411]

Can you do the septa acs 64

[@TycoonTitian01]

Shame these had to go, though hopefully some will make it to museums

[@Papascoffs]

I attended the farewell trip as well! Too bad I didn’t know of you then!

[@loubna1627]

I remember seeing aem 7s on the elwen line

[@edwardcole4623]

3:11 ooh determination

[@stephensardos6418]

Kinda looks like you are down the street from the Pennsylvania Live Steamers. Have you ever been there?

[@tonysamtraktrainvideos]

Good video Tom.

[@AutZentus]

It's a shame to see them go. I only got a chance to ride on one of the toasters in may 2018

[@theblacksmith7523]

i would like to suggest the violet town crash in Australia Victoria also good work on using thomas music

[@davidmolin8944]

AEM-7: nicknamed the toaster Purple Shep: wAiT a LaRgE ToAsTeR oH gOlLy I MuSt sTiCk mY hEaD iNtO iT

[@nigelrichardson4327]

if I somehow have the money to I would definitely try and buy one off of Amtrak, the AEM-7 recently became my favorite electric (I only ever saw 1 in service) and I’d love to preserve another one (and hopefully get it a cosmetic restoration to phase 3)

[@dorisvega7988]

Thank you

[@harrisonofcolorado8886]

Thunderbolt 1000: Uploads non documentary videos. Everyone: only watches the documentaries Non-documentary videos: Am I a joke to you?

[@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren]

I couldn't have put it better myself.

[@detroitserbian2687]

Lol

[@LongStripeyScarf]

Interesting that Sweden still runs Rc4’s and 3’s, but Amtrak has already got rid of theirs.

[@amtrak462productions4]

The Septa AEM-7s are getting replaced but would about 2308?

[@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren]

2308 was retired the same time the Toasters were.

[@Wes8761]

@@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren So just curious are they gonna be scrapped now that NJT isn't pulling a lackawanna cut-off? (Where their ALP-44s are rusting away. Cool place, you can even enter them)

[@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren]

NJT will likely scrap theirs due to missing parts and vandalism. 2308 may be the last of her kind by the end of this year

[@Wes8761]

Thunderbolt 1000 Siren Productions Idk njt might just let them waste away some more

[@Wes8761]

Thunderbolt 1000 Siren Productions Also that sucks. Maybe 2308 and some Aem-7s can be put in museums

[@Keystone1906_Productions]

I would say Thunderbolt 1000 Siren productions and Amtrakguy365 did good talking about the AEM-7

[@mauricelong4678]

What's the name of the song at 12 :19

[@Frances_Media_Hub]

You got one fact wrong, Antrak got 69 ACS-64's. ACS-64 666 dont existing which mean their only 69.

[@TheBlue_Crystal]

Hey thunderbolt can you do the oxnard california crossing amtrak train incident 2 years ago

[@M551A1_Sheridan]

I've waited so long for this!!!!!!!

[@gloria6229]

Ex-Reading F7s and a 3rd if needed in the areas like Bethlehem Allentown Quakertown among other areas.

[@thatguydillan6360]

Nun like coffee and trains on a good morning

[@stormhirschbein1305]

Even I don't live in America but I stil love the 7 eam 7 it made me cry like some off my fav trains AR out off servise =(

[@devensingleton97]

It pronounce AEM-7

[@rossescudero6170]

5:49 thats not K5LA that sounded like a P3

[@physetermacrocephalus9986]

That’s pretty clearly a K5LA.

[@justinerp4145]

Could i make a engines of Marc and i will credit you and Amtrakguy365

[@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren]

Go for it! MARC's one of my favorite commuter lines other than SEPTA

[@justinerp4145]

@@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren Thank you, I have learned sooooooo much from you and you inspired me to make this channel so i just wanted to say thanks.

[@Wes8761]

MarcMan Congrats!! Would watch 10/10

[@justinerp4145]

Thank you

[@ReadingAreaRailfan]

Thunderbolt siren 1000 productions i take it your local in PA?

[@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren]

Yep. I live about 40 minutes from Philadelphia

[@ReadingAreaRailfan]

@@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren i live in exton if u know where that is. Im right off the NEC.if u ever go railfanning in downingtown or coatsville, theres a good chance i will see you.

[@TWb-bu9tl]

Person: I’m throwing out this old toaster Me: *starts wailing*

[@WendysCove]

IM SO glad you care. TO my Knowledge the Pope hasn't weighed in yet.

[@WendysCove]

Ant the fire in Notre Dame that is.

[@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren]

As a history buff I care a lot so your welcome. Thankfully though the Spire and roof collapsed the overall outside structure survived so it's repairable though the artifacts inside I don't know if they burned up or were water damaged.

[@ExpressRailfan]

​@@Thunderbolt_1000_SirenSEPTA's AEM-7s were infact express engines for their push-pull services even though they can't go as fast as the Amtrak counterparts.

[@RailPreserver2K]

Did they plan on preserving the last one that ran

[@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren]

No plans of preservation are known yet for the AEM-7s or ALP-44

[@RailPreserver2K]

I've been up to Pennsylvania heck I have even been to Pittsburgh and rode The Duquesne Incline

[@emersonfigueiredo6300]

Nice video

[@railwayadventureswithleigh6040]

900 and 903 AEM-7 were a total loss after the Chase Maryland collision

[@penkagenova7073]

I choose to stick with you because I already watched about he aem-7 long before I started watching you series

[@Steamer96]

Seeing your avatar is a PRR K4, you should talk about them.

[@gloria6229]

I'll come up with a new series called: Engines of Kanawha River Railroad: the SD60 and AEM-7.

[@metrolinxfan3005]

4:05 . Rip 901 we miss you

[@thebigbluesteamengine63]

Hey Thunderbolt is Amtrak guy 365 he's going to least engines of New York Central

[@Highballer-500X]

SO THE AEM-7S ARE STILL AROUND TODAY

[@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren]

Yes the ones from all the rail lines are still around. There was a rumor MARC scrapped them all but my good friend Acela2017 Railfanning told me that's false as he saw them in storage.

[@ajjj4wood1]

i missed the AEM-7

[@cooperclimb1783]

Can you do Engines of SEPTA ACS-64s, plz.

[@dislikemyvids9222]

No history

[@gloria6229]

In case you missed it, NS will send two SD70M-2s to Progress Rail for rebuilding into AC traction with all the latest software. The pair is not expected to begin testing until 2023. Several SD70M-2s have been sold off, but NS retains many. How many exactly? After repeated failures, the PR43Cs ultimately found themselves in storage in Windsor, Ontario. By 2019, the PR43Cs were sitting at Windsor with an uncertain future ahead of them, but in that same year, they were renumbered from #4000-#4011 to #130-#141 in order to make room for the AC44C6Ms that would be numbered in the #4000s on CP. Many railfans speculated that the PR43Cs would re-enter service after that, because why would CP go through the trouble of renumbering them if they would never operate again? Unfortunately, these theories proved to be wrong, when all 12 PR43Cs were returned to Canadian Pacific's Vancouver British Columbia shops in late 2020. By 2021, they were chopped up into parts. Nowadays, all PR43Cs are assumed scrapped, including the demonstrator, #4300. So why are the PR43Cs important? Well, most obviously, they did something with a few of Canadian Pacific's SD50s to make them slightly more useful. At the beginning of of video, the SD50s were overly complicated and unreliable, and by the end of the video, they were turned into undoubtedly reliable SD40Es, and well, interesting PR43Cs. Also, because they were a part of Canadian Pacific's switching engines, they showed the railroad that Genset technology is unreliable, and since the PR43Cs, Canadian Pacific hasn't experimented with Genset technology that much. I said the PR43Cs were chopped up into parts at the g scale New River Gorge National Park and Preserve in Fayetteville West Virginia not far from Ansted where my uncle Greg lives. Nah, just kidding. In 2010, Amtrak ordered 71 ACS-64 locomotives from Siemens to replace the AEM-7s not the HHP-8s which the HHP-8s weren't a failure. The ACS-64s began entering revenue service in February of 2014, and soon the fleet was retired with the last two AEM-7s #942 & #946 making their final run on June 18th, 2016, on a farewell excursion that ran from Washington to Philadelphia. Amtrak #929 & #938 are on Caltrain. Two Amtraks have been preserved so far: #915 going to the Railroad Museum of Pennsylvania, which I plan to revisit in the future, and #945 going to the Illinois Railway Museum. Some DCs were scrapped, while others, mainly the ACs, are awaiting their fate in Wilmington, Delaware. Marc was next, replacing their AEM-7s with Siemens Chargers, around 2017. The HHP-8s however, got a second chance with rebuilds in 2018, but the AEM-7s are currently in storage. Amtraks #664 was leased to SEPTA in 2016, for testing the locomotives before buying them. Tests were completed with success, and in 2014, SEPTA ordered 15 ACS-64S from Siemens #901-#915. #901 entered service on July 11th 2018, running its 1st train on the Great Valley Flyer on the Paoli/Thorndale line. Eventually, as more and more entered service, SEPTA decided, it was time. Some were used on late-night gel trains in the fall, as like a sort-of second retirement job, but soon all were retired with the exception of #2302 being used as a switching engine on the Kanawha River Railroad by late November 2018, with a farewell excursion taking place on December 1st 2018 running from Paoli to Suburban Station with ALP-44 #2308 and AEM-7 #2301. Yours truly was on-board that day, boy was that a fun time. But the story doesn't really end there because after that excursion #2302 #2301 #2303 #2306 #2304 #2307 #2303 & #2308 are switching freight cars as of today at Belle, West Virginia a Charleston suburb on the Kanawha River Railroad.