England Kit Controversy is Insane

[@Brookler]

What's more outrageous than the flag is the price of the kit

[@ga7a903]

Dhgate

[@moviesmash7372]

Nike share price has been battered.

[@stuartarmstrong8147]

What's crazy about it is that the three largest political parties in England have all expressed the desire to have it CHANGED BACK. They can't agree on something meaningful like shortening wait times for hospital patients, but they can all get behind a little colour change on an overpriced football kit. Wild.

[@lb_75]

There’s an election coming up, they say/do stuff so the less educated/working class agree and vote. It’s sound ridiculous but I studied politics for 4 years at uni and strange tactics like this are really common

[@aaronhurst4379]

Priorities, am I right? 🙄

[@outofthetrash5925]

Just an opportunity to gather some potential votes for upcoming elections. They don't actually give a damn.

[@limpa756]

They're being careful not to really piss off the peoples lives they've destroyed even more. Took away what it means to be English and now they won't even let them have their football lol

[@InvadedOath]

Problem with that is they said it doesn’t matter they’d be on the front page of a right wing rag (of which we have distressing overabundance) with the claims that they hate their country. They just can’t win on it

[@meulsa]

as an englishman its fairly depressing to see more outrage over this than the complete and utter desolation of the country's public services and governance. but hey...

[@PikaDikaChu]

You aren't aloud to talk about what has caused this decay

[@artair70]

@@PikaDikaChu England is so cucked.

[@jbo4547]

Yeah because if you talk about it you get called a racist, anti immigrant, etc.

[@vermilion7843]

@@PikaDikaChu what are you trying to say?

[@scottbrayton9484]

​@@jbo4547only if your stupid enough to blame that decay on immigrants instead of the vicious cutting of social services under austerity policies.

[@1gunni834]

The fact that EVERYONE of those tweets have a blue checkmark speaks volumes

[@JASPADIGHOST]

You can buy the blue checkmark

[@lukee7442]

@@JASPADIGHOSTthe only people who do that on twitter are elon musk fanboys, which is why it’s not at all surprising that they are all so triggered about a color change and think it’s “woke” lol

[@englisheggwhites_2336]

I mean, as far as I know the checkmarks get boosted up to the top of the responses, so under most tweets the top comments are all checkmarks

[@1NTEN7ION]

Someone verified on Twitter does not make their opinion correct

[@SBarrettM]

The history of the word Yankee is super interesting. I went down this rabbit hole recently. The New Amsterdam colony was where New York is now. When it switched hands to the English, lots of people stayed. Interestingly, most dutch people who were there pronounced their names Yan or Kees (Dutch equivalent of John or Chris). The slang for people from New York by the British was a portmanteau of the two names, Yankees. I guess it stuck. Since the Revolutionary War, it was used to reference Northerners because the south still had strong ties to England because they were majority Anglican and picked up the slang.

[@lewishagan9319]

That’s actually super interesting

[@imightbebiased9311]

I'd like to point out that this explanation is by no means viewed as correct. It's also suggested that it's an Anglicized form of the Dutch name "Janneke" which would be the diminutive version of Jan. (Like, John/Johnny.) It's also not definitively known who was dissing who with the insult, whether it was Southern Dutch slandering the Northern Dutch, the Dutch slandering the English, or the English slandering the Dutch. All the posited definitions do seem to revolve around the Jan/Yan connections, so, it's kind of hilarious that everyone calling themselves a "yank" is calling themselves a John.

[@simplesimonhadapie]

Go down the rabbit hole of second level cockney rhyming slang you go from tank - septic tank- septic and even people referring to themselves as listerene as they are anti septic (I know that's normally all one word)

[@Andrew-s3b]

New York JohnChrises

[@dweeep03]

14:10 Alfie cameo on zealandism 😮

[@connorwillie8102]

Love it Classic HITC sarcasm

[@jamesbaurus5928]

Ive never called myself a Yank to anyone except a to a British person.

[@billystanford275]

And we have only called ourselves Brits to people from the States

[@DMFroomer]

In more shocking kit news, Germany will be wearing Nike from 2027.

[@Bagster321]

Damn that actually is a suprise

[@leoharjung8967]

Germany has their own outrage about pink kits from adidas

[@DMFroomer]

@@leoharjung8967 What's weird is the pink kits are surprisingly popular, at least from what I've seen.

[@simplesimonhadapie]

Yeah the Germans are not happy 🤣

[@simplesimonhadapie]

​@@DMFroomeras a Scotsman we have had "salmon" kits multiple times and I remember this when we had our first in 2004ish. I think it looks great as a second kit as I prefer them to be interesting since the home strip is usually traditional but a bit dull

[@Josh-rp2eq]

My dog named Waffles was so confused when Ze was yelling about hating waffles hahah

[@gugga2745]

fuck the kit controvery, i saw on insta today that the first one to sell out was the fucking 3XL. thats hilarious

[@imightbebiased9311]

So, I was in Japan last year, trying to cop a Japan national team kit for a friend of mine in the US. Apparently the kit sizes ran small, so the fact that the team had a pretty good run, and the small kits meant that I could find M and L sizes, but anything above that was impossible.

[@t.c.4321]

They make less 3XL dumby... that's like twice the amount of fabric than an S and it has to sell for the same price.

[@gugga2745]

@@t.c.4321 bro they pay like 35 cents a year in wages to the children most likely i doubt it costs even 5% of the cost to make

[@DaCaLsTa7777]

Honestly the sizes of football shirts are wild, I bought one for my local team and the one that best fits my body was a 5xl because I'm 6ft 5 in the 250lbs range. I think kits just have a much broader size scope since normally I can wear 2xl 3xl just fine for normal wear

[@atyj1]

The middle glass pint chugging gammon who can afford it yeah

[@Lew99900]

Harvey Elliot lifted his collar up in the U21 game 😂

[@locustgaming8271]

Conservatives love to call people snowflakes and then proceed to react like this to the silliest things

[@Diogo85]

Definitely.

[@willch.2259]

Keir Starmer has said he wants it changed back too, that the flag isn't something to be toying with. So you've proven nothing.

[@Diogo85]

@@willch.2259 He's right, though.

[@InvadedOath]

You should do a vid on why teams play in colours different to their national flag. There’s some interesting historical stories out there

[@Lintonz]

Our country is absolutely in the bin and people are losing their minds over some colours, couldn’t make it up. I don’t get why they’ve changed it but it also doesn’t bother me, people should be more annoyed about the pricing of the kit.

[@kyleeasy1250]

Agreed

[@artair70]

Because much of England has made the English flag into something it’s not, just leave the flag. Nike as always can’t not just do something normal

[@Lintonz]

@@artair70 Yeah Nike must’ve know they were baiting people into this sort of response, poor from them

[@artair70]

@@Lintonz Considering Nike's increadibly poor track record and how hive the hive of England's political classes view the St George flag as an evil, Nike fumbled this, I don't buy kits myself but If they did this to Scotlands kit (Where I'm from) I'd be furious as well, some kits just don't land and that's fine (Looking at you Minecraft Liverpool kit) but if it's not broke don't fix it, you have to go out of your way to change the flag, it's by intention.

[@ajprop99]

@@artair70 Yh englands political class, famous for being anti-nationalist ahahahahahaha

[@Unclekase]

I'm anything but the most nationalistic person in the world, but if for whatever reason my country's flag changed colours, whether for political statements or whatever, I wouldn't like it either.

[@masood5294]

Exactly

[@stonywings5888]

The flag just "being changed" is obviously the smallest concern for most of the people getting mad at it, it is what the specific change makes them think of. Pretty obvious that it is baiting those who hate queer people (or the social media manager, as Zealand suggested, the actual changes might have been simply artistic)

[@ajprop99]

Why though

[@Unclekase]

@@ajprop99 Well. I am from Greece, a country that supposedly has a 99% Christian population. That number is nowhere close to being true though, with most people, myself included, being atheists, agnostics, or totally non practicing orthodox. However, the flag bears a huge cross. And despite me not caring about religion, that's a symbol that's being used for thousands of years now. It pretty much defines Greece, alongside the blue and white colours. And I really don't like it when it's changed for political reasons, whether that is replacing the cross with a swastika, a sickle and hammer, or turning the lines into a rainbow. I don't really care on what anyone wants to support, however I do take a problem in changing a country's flags to fit your needs. Maybe I'm much of a vexillologist and I take much pride in flags, who knows 😁 And obviously, shall I add, there are thousands of more serious problems to be talked about first, not even a question there.

[@gangstalker5461]

Dude its a tiny logo on the collar of a football jersey

[@117Ciaren]

What if the real psyop was the friends we made along the way?

[@Frostwriter111]

Zealand keeps saying "kernel of truth," and I'm now imagining a superhero named "The Colonel of Truth" going around forcing people to expose their surface-level thoughts.

[@dc6521]

I want to be on both sides because I find it funny to argue with people on the internet

[@Only-Meats]

Zealand making a Civilization reference made my day!

[@Lew99900]

Yeah fair point, if they did this to the spangled striped banner there would be complete outrage I feel like the average American is way more patriotic

[@lordpelagius5078]

There is about 30% of the uk who would shiv you for suggesting they love the flag too much abd that none white people have rights

[@willgreig4077]

Not the average just the loudest 😂 honestly I think most people don't give af

[@imightbebiased9311]

@@willgreig4077 Yeah, like I live in America. Do I have an American flag outside my house? No, because I live in America. The house is part of America by default. I don't need to put a hat on a hat to display that an American lives in this house.

[@t.c.4321]

Not californians... they cry about their own flag... pathetic

[@Lew99900]

@@imightbebiased9311 didn’t you pledge allegiance every morning in school?🤣

[@1KHC]

All Nike had to do was not post it and nobody would’ve noticed it 😂

[@Ben-nv9vp]

All I hope is that people get so outraged that they don't buy it. That way I can get a beautiful kit at a discount!

[@NurDerDolphin]

Talk about Germany's change from Adidas to Nike. Even Germany's Minister of Health has critiqued the move

[@timlett99]

This is exhibit #4728 that English and American people are more alike than eitehr side will ever be willing to admit lmao

[@kylec10]

The other hilarious reaction that you didn’t mention was like: Person 1: I don’t like the change they made to the flag. Person 2: wHaT aRe yOu tRiGgErEd SnOwfLaKe?!?!?

[@DJRaan91]

Looked at the kit, shrugged my shoulders and thought “that’s weird” and moved on. Little did I know the outrage 😂 the fact the Tories and Labour have agreed on something though is revolutionary. I could imagine it would be like Democrats and Republicans agreeing on something!

[@general0ashnak]

Labor and the Tories agree on almost everything, it's harder to find what they disagree with each other on.

[@davincisama]

Yeah, triggering people has been proven to not be a sound business desicion, some community manager at Nike is about to lose its job.

[@gamakujira64e23]

It’s actually very sound business, pissing people off is basically free advertising

[@Diogo85]

There will always be someone offended by something no matter what you do.

[@nicklikethesoup]

Modelo is owned by Grupo Modelo. Grupo Modelo releases their distribution rights for sales outside of Mexico. Constellation Brands owns the distribution rights in the US. InBev controls Modelo distribution outside the US. The Bud Light boycott shifted the market share in the US from InBev to Constellation Brands and Grupo Modelo. It wasn't the same company getting the money because InBev doesn't own Constellation Brands or Grupo Modelo.

[@general0ashnak]

That's going to go over his head.

[@rossanderson1892]

"This thread is the Venus Flytrap for racists" was my favourite comment under that post 🤣🤣

[@RwandaBob]

i’m a southerner from the us that is a massive football fan and it’s straight up fighting words if someone calls me a “yank” or a “yankee.” that is probably the number 1 by a long shot most offensive thing you can say to a southerner. and we’re extremely accommodating and friendly people

[@brittlediamond]

is it? why? (I'm Brazilian)

[@Bagster321]

​@@brittlediamondYankee often means someone from the Northern USA. Whilst it is occasionally used by non-Americans to describe any American, there's a very distinct north-south divide.

[@Bagster321]

@RwandaBob at the risk of crude humour, your comment makes me think of a moment from Top Gear (UK) where they had stuff like "NASCAR sucks" painted on their cars to see who'd get shot first.

[@TDBTylerable]

14:30 That's Reading FC's. I think the logic behind that flag is that their nickname is the "Royals", and the O with the red dot in the middle is referencing the Royal Air Force's ensign. Though I don't think there's a connection between Reading FC and the RAF, I believe the name "Royals" came from the fact that the club is based in the "Royal county of Berkshire".

[@hareyblack]

To be fair I'm a Reading fan and that flag is still pretty confusing at first look lol

[@TDBTylerable]

@@hareyblack oh true, Reading fan here too xD

[@Brookler]

I don't get why they changed it, our flag is white and red. But it doesn't bother me that they have.

[@artair70]

Because much of England views the St George flag negatively, thinking EDL types are the only ones who can use it, you've become offended in your own land. You're all speaking Urdu anyway, so time for a new flag on Englandistan.

[@safcjcp]

@@artair70that’s not true a noisy minority think only the edl can use it

[@artair70]

@@safcjcp I never said such, to some it’s viewed negatively because of their inception

[@stephenoxf]

they changed it because the trim is blue, purple and red. that's it.

[@astrodunkbg]

the crest is on the flag but it is not the flag itself, you can also see it on the Milan and Barca badge so obviously it can represent multiple things. Nike should have just said it was a plus sign to support positivity

[@Avioto]

These are the same kind of people that will unironically call other people snowflakes.

[@limpa756]

there's a big difference between being invasive and destructive compared to being traditional and preserving values that mean a lot to them. Stop poking the bear, there's a reason most people are sick of people like you.

[@DaCaLsTa7777]

I do like the away kit bit i don't like the change personally to the cross, as you say Zea it looks a little off, and if was inspired by '66 training kits...then wouldn't it be better on a world cup eligible year? Id just prefer if the cross remained red and then its a 10/10 than a 9/10, maybe ill still pick one up sometime

[@simplesimonhadapie]

If you think it's wrong your entitled to your opinion but that means it wouldn't matter what reasoning they gave you. Do you think though if it hadn't been highlighted in the way it was you would even have noticed when buying it?

[@DaCaLsTa7777]

@@simplesimonhadapie I think Zealand was very on the money in saying it was likely Twitter Bait in how it was shown, they knew it would cause a stir when it didnt mean anything in the manner twitter took it as Also I did see the cross during the England Brazil game and yes...the red is very obvious and then it just looks like half the cross is missing. its like a very close up detail that looks bad at distance.

[@bartsimho1192]

I think something else as well with it is the relationship between national symbols and politics in England and the UK as a whole which has stoked it more. The fact that the 3 largest parties have asked for it to be changed back is also showing the changing perception of national symbols at the moment as well.

[@seanlee2977]

The colours actually do mean something, tho it’s not for political reasons Apparently Nike wanted to honour England’s 1966 WC win by referencing the kits from that year and they implemented those colours onto the cross

[@imightbebiased9311]

HOOOOOWWWWW DAAAAAARE THEEEYYYYY

[@ronmastrio2798]

Lol apparently inspired by the training jackets the actual kit in 66 was red and white.

[@general0ashnak]

It's irrelevant what they intended it to represent because what it doesn't represent is the flag of St George.

[@honigwaffel_hd1016]

German Kit Controversy is insane too

[@BurningJonas]

Something similar happend in Germany, where people were upset about the pink/purple kit because it is not masculine enough and does not represent the colours of the nation! 😂

[@5minutemovies977]

people are crazy. 25% of my t shirts are purple, bordeaux, garnet... I don't feel more or less masculine with them on or off 🤨

[@stonywings5888]

Ey, that is a great looking kit!

[@begr8303]

I think Germany actually started this whole problem because the DFB released their pink kit with a statement of how it is supposed to represent Germany's tolerance towards everything. So people assumed it is just about getting political points and making up for what happened in Qatar (the "One Love" scandal for example).

[@murasame1450]

I'm German and for me I just find the kit ugly. It looks like a goalkeeper kit to me. I really like the home kit though. Gives old school vibes.

[@ddoghusky2928]

Also the flags at the end are to represent what part of england theyre from. Unlike the states where u have state flags we dont really have that. So people will show off there support as well as showing support for the favourite team but shows how it unites someone can have a united and a city shirt but for england that dont matter. (most people support the club theyre from besides ones that want to support a team at highest level)

[@jhplayz298]

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[@idkkkkkkkk_]

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[@tidehtee-day2909]

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[@wildw0lf120]

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[@cyclonesfan7205]

I'm also here to say you too

[@kreamysoda]

You too 🫡

[@valdas420]

some things shouldn't be changed PERIOD is it a big deal NO, they could have put a Pop emoji image instead and it would still not be a big deal for the game . Dont change something and then call it a Joke (playful) PS: "playfull" is also the word the Bud light VP of marketing used before destroying the Brand

[@ernesto8738]

modelo is also more expensive, so they made even more

[@MOR54DA7H30S]

Some dude told me they had a Dutch flag on them after they somehow figured out I was from that ol' town, it was just a pansexual flag with weed in the middle. My friend told me I looked like Joseph Goebbels after he found out the camera guy was Jewish.

[@Ascalonn88]

It's nice to see these companies care about social issues. I heard they are playfully paying their employees good wages and letting kids actually play instead of working in their factories for $2 a month. Looking forward to the playful coloration of the Saudi Arabia flag. I am sure they won't be outraged as these tea sippers.

[@theangrykbdist]

Just left school... Glad to have seen this as soon as it dropped❤

[@evinrock5717]

I live in Canada a 15 minute drive to America. My favourite thing about going there is there’s literally an American flag EVERYWHERE!

[@Felixomania96]

Please read into germans similar topic with the new kit and changing the supplier from adidas to nike its truly mad

[@johnknight9762]

Never once heard someone in the states (or Canada for that matter) say Yank

[@RSviz]

As a yank(lol), I love these Z. It’s amazing and scary what can anger so many people so easily these days. People are just living to be angry now a days.

[@paulie-g]

I remember someone playfully setting a US flag on fire upset quite a few people

[@steelblink]

And then Zealand discovered that the new German away kit is pink and what people think about that.

[@deinemudder3066]

to claim that you get "being obsessed with the flag" - as you should - and don't understand this speaks volumes. i have been nagging you with this channel on the absence of your research. but to say you are not bothered of changes to the flag and these are random colors disqualifies you from being obsessed and understanding about the flag. there is 0 need to change a flag in a national contest setting. point 2: there is 0 need to change the flag to a color that represents a miniscule part of the population instead of the flag that represents 100% of the population. you also don't understand the bud light boycott. the boycott was and is never about anything else but to show that selling beer is to be apolitical. modelo has no politics in their commercials, that's why they are bought.

[@patrickmcgowan696]

Nike hasn't made a good jersey decision in 10 years. Probably made by fanatics anyway.

[@kieronparr3403]

Yay we are no longer in mourning, we have lights!

[@SuperJNG18]

I sometimes call us Americans “Yanks” in a self-deprecating way when I refer to my interests not commonly associated with Americans (soccer, Aussie rules football, Eurovision, etc) EDIT: Also, “based ON,” not “off,” dammit!

[@venice.mp4]

i don’t know how people don’t realize it’s literally just the colour of the kits

[@simplesimonhadapie]

They have been taught that anything with colours of the rainbow on it is the devil's work

[@Lew99900]

In fairness, I don’t care about the flag on the kit very much. But it’s not a fair comparison to the flags on display at England matches in tournaments. Most England followers have parts of their identity on the flag, usually a club they support or the county they come from. You may see the Royal Air Force badge on them as well, (which was the flag you didn’t know) incorporating your club into the St George flag isn’t a “new take” like the Nike thing, as I said it’s a way of showing allegiances to more than one thing These are trophies for foreign hooligans to this day because it’s literally a game of ‘capture the flag’

[@liamayres6032]

Zealand im english and although people are overreacting the other flags were done by individuals who didn't change the colours of the flag most of the time, now Nike is making our beloved national team wear a fake flag, just dont fuck with the flag when ur in charge of a national team kit cus now the team is representing a flag which doesn't represent England

[@thargoff]

“What the f is wrong with waffles?” 😅

[@lewissharp7800]

Being Scottish and vehemently anti-union/monarchy yada yada, this is fkn phenomenal viewing lmao

[@johnthompson457]

Pretty sure sturgeon has a new flag for you guys too🏳️‍🌈

[@Lew99900]

This isn’t a union flag though.

[@Damian_1989]

5:46 dude that scream sounds a lot like the Howard Dean scream!

[@luisvelazquez5683]

You should do a video talking about the open cup and how a burrito shop owns an amateur soccer team that just knocked out Portland Timbers Academy team out

[@lucas-vb9bh]

so this "controversy" and video can be summoned up in 4 words... "its not that deep"

[@broccolihikicks]

THE MESSAGE

[@davidmiller636]

The problem with this is that the St George flag has been labelled a hate symbol by some people, so other people have gone ultra defensive about touching it. Your take is a bit uninformed. As for the flags in the stadium, it is flag in the stadiums are the normal colours not been changed to certain colours that people link to other things. It's just weird, and it's a weird country to do it too, bearing in mind how defensive England can be to outsiders and companies touching stuff.

[@Sneggers]

He keeps saying its weird to him they changed the flag, but wont explain how its weird to him.

[@cillian303]

There have been designs and variations of the British and English flags (and plenty others) by foreign companies for as long as I can remember. This is just the inevitable conclusion of that. Like you say the post was pure bait as well

[@cillian303]

Also apparently the colours match or are close to some LGBT+ flag, so you can guess where a lot of the hate is really coming from

[@TheCapitaineCarnage]

Given it's Nike, it could be a semi-political statement. In a "We're talking about it but we are not really talking about it" kind of way.

[@ButIamAStick]

Funny how Argentina literally had the purple kit in the World cup that has a political meaning based on gender equality and changed the color of the Sun of May from gold to silver so it blends better and people were like "Oh cool, anyway the kit is pretty"

[@lucanasillo2052]

it’s laughable but can we just imagine it was the American flag they did this to? there would be literal riots

[@Morgan_Black]

There's an unsurprisingly large overlap between people who are massively complaining about this and people who are willing to pay $8 a month to Twitter for a Blue checkmark

[@dislexyc]

If there's no meaning, why do it? Makes no sense to me

[@sosamf00]

I'd argue the fan flags aren't as bad as its just a few people, rather than a massive company selling it.

[@The04Damian]

Funny the poms care, not like the previous kits brought tophies 🤣🤣

[@chrissao_502]

"Playful update to thr Stars and Stripes," my Brother in Christ, have you not seen any student section at a decently large high school? Espically where I'm from, South Louisiana, every single high school student section worth anything had a unique twist on the US Flag to make it represent their high school. EVERY ONE. Almost reminds me of the England NT matches with the unique club flags hung up in the 2 and 300's.

[@Espigus]

At first they came for the flags and I said nothing because i wasn't a flag.

[@MichaelOcherz]

5:58 the term you're looking for is 'flag-shagging'

[@BSunE]

Classic British controversy, George Floyd

[@stevencurtis85]

I couldnt give a shit what colour it is tbh. Whats annoying is we have one of the best looking away kits weve had in years and no one is talking about it.

[@thesahel7218]

Definition of first-world problems

[@freakystley]

That pancake bit caught me by surprise, I spilled out my water in my lap lol. Thank you for the good laugh!

[@Lien6887]

What do you have against coffee???

[@stukaseptember]

I can only imagine the outbreak of WW3 if the next USA kit had a rainbow stars and stripes. It's not political? it's fucking with a national symbol, how much more political do you want it.

[@jamesbaurus5928]

Already been done in the US and those flags are sold pretty commonly. Even the extreme right does insane flag art stuff with new colors and stuff for their own reasons.

[@artair70]

@@jamesbaurus5928 "Even the extreme right does insane flag art" Example? I know that none would ever make it to market.

[@stonywings5888]

@@artair70 Just go look at videos of the "Unite the Right rally" in Charlottesville. You see like a million different flags, most of which say in one way or another "get those brown people out of here". A youtuber named Shaun has a video on it. In just the first 40 seconds, you can see a whole host of flags, some of which are mixed with the US flag

[@artair70]

@@stonywings5888 A very lazy 1min search, brings up the US Southern Flag (Mind you it's not based on anything about Race) The WW2 German Flag and something Nordic by the looks of it, a white and black X flag (Not sure what that is) I don't really see anything to write home about, especially with how we know Federal agents do pose such on the regular and have for decades. It's hard taking such events with certainty. Yeah I'm sure that flag about get X out of here is totally legit.

[@stonywings5888]

@@artair70 By US Southern flag, I assume you mean the confederate flag. A flag is just a piece of garnment, what one reads into it varies. Believe it or not, but just recently (for the first time ever), the majority of southerners in the US consider the flag a symbol of racism. The white and black x flag is probably the League of the South flag. It is basically a christian white nationalist group. Not sure which northern one you are talking about though, since a lot of right wing flags are inspired by northern stuff. You are being too vague on the federal agent thing for me to know what you are talking about. And the "get x out of here" flags are very much real. Okay, well, not in the case of the confederate flag, they wanted to keep them for slavery and all that

[@thewaffler1513]

of course the bugman would say something like this

[@Baltic_Coffee]

As a brit my response to it was initially a little defensive mainly on the side of 'its not political is it... no... no? surely... i'm going to hope no.' but i also thing that the twitter post was pure bait and people just ran with it. On the whole i would rather it was just a red cross there, even if it had the bit of 'flavour' with the different shades of red, but i kind of think it just looks bad, and when you are taking a flag, that people are incredibly defensive of and changing it, especially to what i personally dont like, i thing there is always going to be backlash. However all that to say its insanity that in a world where there are so many problems this is the one that the politicians are responding to within 24 hours of it happening and is being directly fought publicly including by news companies. edit: remembered after typing, for the changing it to add things like the bury FC and such i think it fits in a different category, partially because i've then seen these same flags at club games in the league, but also i think its more a 'things i love flag' so people are like well he loves his country and he wants to shoutout his club at wembley, fair play to him.

[@aldobonaso3481]

honestly I don't care if they change a flag, as long as it is still recognisable and stylish...that isn't recognisable as St George's cross anymore, and on top of that it looks absolutely awful...

[@josephschulte9375]

Bro that modelo fact was hilarious

[@AdrielMichael-xo2hd]

After making one the the best African national kit for Nigeria they now start a controversy in England......

[@Renatoioi]

Croatia mentioned. Huge W today

[@stockportlad8560]

As an Englishman, and of course by default an England fan, the great irony is that I genuinely don't think I'd have ever noticed the change if not for the transphobes all kicking off about it. They've done nothing but draw attention to a cause that wasn't even being promoted.

[@iliasVoolgaris]

You don't F with flags, Zealand. Not even English, i get the bait, i get everything, but i don't completely disagree with the outrage, the one thing you don't F with is/are National Flags.

[@jamesbaurus5928]

Yes, you do. It is legally and constitutionally protected right in these ere United States (yehaw, firing a six shooter in the air) to burn or deface the flag. There's also a very sizeable chunk of the English population who don't feel very represented by that cross, so yeah

[@ronmastrio2798]

@@jamesbaurus5928 A tiny chunk Americans don't understand just how little "diversity" there is outside of their country. Also how do you think people would feel if Americans burned other countries flags instead of their own?

[@safcjcp]

⁠@@jamesbaurus5928how big is this “sizeable chunk”, being able to do something doesn’t make you protected from the consequences of your actions

[@wtf-kx2cs]

they haven't said that it means anything and it doesn't inherently. But it is pretty clear that they've done it on purpose and knew this would happen.

[@SeranaTheStudent]

Ah, the green lights are back

[@muns8928]

Controversy and drama >>>> trophies

[@chimsuaumo]

Something similar was done to the England kit in 2010. Only back then, no cared.

[@sjeskey8361]

england fans like to constantly remind others of 1966 until it affects their kit i guess

[@OscarBerriman]

It has made me decide not to use twitter so much

[@notfunny007]

Wise decision

[@BobbySteelanus]

Yeah you don't get it

[@jameshoward-white2288]

Well played Nike 👏 Box ticked ✅️ Social media attention ✅️ And it's actually a nice-looking kit ✅️

[@turkeyman631]

I mean given it is Nike, it wouldnt surprise me lmao

[@awesomepig99w]

I couldn’t care less about the flag change. I care about the price because it is ridiculous

[@conky83]

That's my favourite bit of it all. "Price is over £150? Yeah, that's fine. No problem there. What? They added more colours!?!? Where's my pitchfork?!".