THIS is how you Defend Those Arsenal Corners... The Football Fill-In S3 Ep 6

[@dieseljr7946]

The whole Kyle Walker thing is nonsense. If this were say, a Palace or Bournemouth defender they'd all be saying "nah thats on the defender you've gotta be concentrated and switched on at all times".

[@thesmilingtitan]

@@dieseljr7946 yea but he is the captain. Plus what if the skip was a Goalie, won't the ref wait for them to get into position. And Kyle and Bukayo were called by the ref. So he needs to wait for them to go back.

[@Count_Jacula]

Disagree i dont think it effects the goal as much as people believe but its fucking crazy for a ref to call someone out of position to the half way line then within 2 seconds allows the fk to be taken

[@dieseljr7946]

@@thesmilingtitan if its the goalie, fine. Makes sense. But he's not. Go and watch the highlights. When the ball is played to Martinelli on that left wing, Walker is already back level with his backline of defenders. Its just making excuses for him.

[@phattan5453]

⁠@@dieseljr7946Funny when ref favor arsenal, it's city making excuse but when ref favor city, it's city buying ref. Kind of hypocrite don't you think 🤔

[@andrewwright4195]

Because they want someone to blame same like Newcastle villa ​@@phattan5453

[@ulfanfinneriksen4643]

Calafiori with a screamer. Gabriel dominating the box. Arsenal winning the league.

[@16ShimiC16]

And then you woke up

[@nnenne1]

COYG

[@JordanMarsden]

"They absolutely battered Forest..." Tell us you didn't watch the match without telling us you didn't watch the match. 😂

[@OliverStone-m6f]

Can we all just go back and look where Kyle walker was when the free kick is taken. He is back in line with the rest of the back four. It’s his fault he’s not wide and close enough to martinelli, he had more than enough time to get back into position than I think most people realise.

[@antonmunnik3315]

Before Califiori puts it top corner, the entire Man City team (excluding Haaland) is already in their 18-yard box. They can't have any complaints, really.

[@kobbygh8932]

So we should all wait for him to go to the toilet before we play the game? He just not a leader. A good captain will ask a player to stand in front of the ball to prevent the free kick being taken early

[@excalibermax]

It’s madness saying waaaa Kyle got called out of position he was walking slowly and pointing around! He’s back in position!

[@slayingroosters4355]

​@@kobbygh8932what and get them sent off for delaying the restart? What a great captain you'd be 💀

[@findingaether]

Simply the fact Kyle Walker walked away from Martinelli. Don't pretend Kyle Walker knew what was going on.😂😂

[@jhunnyx263]

What about the all the other games where players kick the ball away and don’t get a yellow?

[@ChilledPotatoes]

That's the main thing honestly, I don't mind if players are going to get carded for it but ALL refs need to enforce it to a standard, not some refs sometimes carding / sending players off and killing a game.

[@2daysago_]

I only saw united....bruno and Maguire given. Its only Arsenal and United so far. Especially Arsenal, they dont even give warnings its straigh away cards

[@archiewall124]

If you’re referencing the Joao Pedro one from a few weeks ago then fair. But if it’s the Doku one, that isn’t a yellow card.

[@kdtm1979]

Oliver used the excuse against Kovacic that it would ruin the game, what's the difference here?

[@archiewall124]

The difference is it was a second yellow for a blatant foul + booting the ball away, as opposed to a straight red for a tackle on the border between a yellow and red card. That’s the difference.

[@paulprothero9997]

@@archiewall124no the kovacic one was two bad fouls. First one got booked. Second no punishment

[@DaGooner77]

He was booked for an horrific foul on Odegaard then a few mins later he went in late on Rice in similar fashion ​@archiewall124

[@ChromeDomeAlex]

@@archiewall124idiotic take because Kovacic was two red card challenges last season. Way worse than kicking a ball away

[@BDFProtector]

It wasnt the Ref's Fault......... Again from the time the whistle was first blown till the kick of the ball was 0.84 seconds, and he hadnt finished blowing when it was kicked. He finished blowing 2 seconds after he began..... Not really delaying the restart is it And when Calaflori shot there was 10 City players in the area.......!

[@ChromeDomeAlex]

You can tell why they don’t have Mark on because he’d call them out sucking off the refs with the double standards. Glad Mark saw the light

[@JasonBebopp343]

EVERYWHERE I go English football related I see my team Arsenal 😂😂

[@samihietanen36]

As a Chelsea fan, it feels so good when people finally start to admit that our squad size isnt actually that crazy. 2 or 3 players for each position is completely normal especially now when the match schedule is so full.

[@MajinPorunga]

Can deffo see Chelsea being able to put up a decent front across all comps.

[@corybrown416]

Let’s see if you’re saying that when more established players players are unhappy about not starting regularly!

[@archiewall124]

@@corybrown416we are probably going to be playing over 60 games this season. Plus, we already have a number of injuries as we always do. This isn’t going to be an issue, pretty much everyone is going to play a lot of minutes.

[@corybrown416]

@@archiewall124 Your basing that on the assumption that you will go far in all competitions and you’re also assuming that every player is going to play a significant amount of minutes that will appease any unhappiness they may have over playing time. That’s a whole lot of hope. Time will tell which one of us is right! 👍

[@archiewall124]

@@corybrown416if we don’t go all the way in ‘UEFA Conference league’ then I’d be very surprised to be honest. We also got to the league cup final and fa cup semi final last season. Our track record in cup competitions is very good. So yes, I do expect us to play 60+ games this season and I don’t think it’s based on false hope at all.

[@kurtisrichards1082]

Nonsense on the Walker situation, he could've easily got back but he was trodding, game doesn't wait for one man, if its that bad, get a man to cover you, basics.

[@IamTiernO]

It should wait though if the referee calls him over.

[@kurtisrichards1082]

@@IamTiernO He was almost fully back, he slowed done once he got past the halfway line, a quick free kick is an advantage, shouldn't have to wait for everyone to be set.

[@TheJWRB]

neutral fan, if the referee calls the captains over, the referee should wait for the captains signal that they are back in position. Arsenal fans would be crying about it.

[@corybrown416]

@@TheJWRBWhy do we need to wait, he had more than enough time to get back and we do have the right to a quick free kick.

[@archiewall124]

@@corybrown416because the ref brought HIM over. What do you not understand? Walker can’t just ignore the referee. It’s terrible from the ref.

[@stevescourou8006]

Hold on, you want Arsenal when down to 10 men to play attacking football, away from home, against City? How did that work for Liverpool a few seasons ago? If you wanted a good attacking game, like fans did have for parts of the game in the first half, then the application of the rules need to be consistent for all teams or common sense applied. Michael Oliver refused to send off a City player last season because he didn't want to impact the game. However, on this occasion, that wasn't considered - crickets from you on this. What about this silly rule about delaying restarts, is this not what extra time is for? What about Doku doing the same? Szoboszlai for Liverpool whilst already on a yellow? Plenty of other examples available upon request. This is what Arsenal fans are moaning about, no one is saying Trossard is innocent, he's not. It's the inconsistencies. Lastly it's not Arsenals prerogative to play attractive football, given the context already outlined. Moreover, where is the talk about the greatest team on the planet unable to break down such a defence? 33 shots, over 70% possession and just about got a draw. Side to side passing, long distance shots, slow movement. Surely you'd expect more from City here - I know I did.

[@Count_Jacula]

I mean its entirely possible to play attacking away from home down to 10 Chelsea did it against the best side ever in barca and they were 2-0 down. However i agree Arsenal had to play 10 behind the ball because they were winning so no point chasing the game and losing. Im a neutral in all of this an i do find Arsenal awful to watch at the best of time ill be honest against Atalanta they were dreadful to watch but you have to do what you have to do to get a result. In terms of delaying the restart i think by law its a second yellow an understand it same as rice an should have learned from it the issue is they enforce 1 in every 20 commited.

[@IamTiernO]

They didn't say that. They said the stupidity of Trossards red card turned the game into that.

[@isodin5415]

Absolutely fucking metal right. Chelsea, Liverpool, and Manchester United got 5 past them because they tried to play City away with a red.

[@stevescourou8006]

@@Count_Jacula Exactly that, you do what you need to do. It's a marathon, not a sprint. Your comment about the law of delaying a restart is spot on, however again, your bypassing the point of inconsistency. This is what Arsenal fans are saying.

[@stevescourou8006]

@@IamTiernO - Then they need to call out the rules that spoilt the game due to it's lack of consistence in the application, they've got more clout that we mere mortals do as they're ex players with a wider reach. Last season we were bemoaning VAR remember, not much chatter there, it's been replaced by this mental rule. This rule is like double jeopardy, a team/player gets punished twice. Book a player for delay, but add further extra time. The punishment has already been served with the yellow, why not book ALL players that delay but have no/limited extra time - for subs add an extra 30seconds per sub perhaps.

[@markordynamics376]

Poor Jamie 😂 Did like that wee bite back though, put that foot down son don't let the couch squad stop your good questions 🤣 When's Luke giving an FPL analysis segment !

[@coreybowen8183]

David Beckham played for 4 clubs in champions league

[@Hhammer]

They said English clubs

[@TheJocker113]

@@Hhammer no they didnt

[@Hhammer]

Jamie they were good questions!

[@marke.8506]

I'm actually amazed how they can analyzing the Trossuard situation without the context... Last year in the same match Oliver did not gave Kovacic the second yellow for a blatant foul because he did not want to "ruin the game". That was said by Howard Webb, the PGMOL chief himself 😂 Comedy at its finest

[@cosycow]

Shame MG isnt on to argue the other side of the Trossard red card. No mention of the City players not being booked for kicking the ball (which is the main frustration for Arsenal), and most crucially the ball is kicked within a second of the whistle going. Reminds me of the Van Persie red card years back against Barca. Also, do we actually want this to be a second yellow? Others have suggested that 30 seconds or a minute is added on each time a ball is kicked, rather than a yellow, and that seems much more fair to me. The last thing we want is more matches with 10v11 or 10v9.

[@stevescourou8006]

What I want to know is this - Are the officials adding extra time AND also dishing out yellow cards? If so, and it seems this way to me, that is double jeopardy for me. You're punishing a team twice.

[@sconaldo7]

I think MG was just used for ratings last season lol has he fell out with

[@archiewall124]

The Doku one wasn’t kicking the ball away if that’s what you’re referring to.

[@Robert-i4g]

There is a written down rule in football. Arsenal can't win a game genuinely.. Either the opposition was shit, Arsenal were lucky, they employed the dark arts, etc etc etc. My advice to arsenal fans, the sooner you realize that, the better it is...

[@excalibermax]

Arteta is pissed because szabozli did it on yellow he stayed on palmer did it for Chelsea he stayed on ! The consistency is a joke ! Even doku in same game and the Brighton player ! We was winning 2-1 and nearly won the game so screw it break us down !

[@gechero23]

I want the panel to tell us why r only arsenal players getting booked. I've seen at least 10 different occasions the same thing happened but no one is booked.

[@kieranm2514]

@@gechero23 oh stop crying bunch of victims as bad as goldbridge

[@corybrown416]

@@kieranm2514Why don’t you stop crying, moaning about a situation that has got nothing to do to with you!

[@archiewall124]

That’s because you have confirmation bias my friend.

[@corybrown416]

@@archiewall124 Only 3 people players have received a second yellow for delaying a free kick this season, 2 for Arsenal, 1 for Man U and there has been at least 10-15 separate incidents wherein other teams players have delayed a free kick whilst on a yellow card and nothing has happened! Tell me how is that confirmation bias and not stating actual fact????? I’ll be interested to see metal gymnastics you use to try and justify your idiotic comment! 😂

[@kurtcobain.20]

The boys get in

[@delanorijnsewijn4999]

Beckham also played for 4 different clubs in the UCL. This was probably a mistake, like the question about who had the most players at the euro's. The question needed to be which english player has played for the most english clubs in the UCL

[@MajinPorunga]

Since when did football become about how you the game rather than the points secured. Of course Arsenal could play attacking football, against City however you'll lose. Arsenal defended better with 10 men than most teams do with 11 men against City and just in general.

[@holdtightadele8017]

How can one expect a side with 10 men whom are 2-1 up away against the best team in the country to play attacking football. It’s just silly, we want to win games. I can live with a slightly boring second half if we walk away with 3 points.

[@archiewall124]

I think there’s an argument to be made that since the beginning of last season, Jackson is the most improved player in this league. He came into this league and country with only 18 months of top flight football experience. This a guy who didn’t own his pair of football boots until he was 16 years old. It’s remarkable how much better he is now in pretty much every aspect of his game and if that trajectory continues then it’s very exciting from a Chelsea POV.

[@StuTheDon17]

Settle down. We're 5 games into the season. Let's see where he's at after 15 games and Chelsea have actually played a few good sides.

[@archiewall124]

⁠@@StuTheDon17he scored 17 goals last season. I’m not being reactionary here. This run of form has been coming off the back of last season. I get that the Chelsea-hating media has consistently mocked the guy totally unfairly, but if you actually try and inform your own opinion yourself you’d understand what I’m saying. It’s not just the goals either his hold up and link up play is excellent, his creative numbers are very good for a striker and physically he’s improved a lot since he first joined. I don’t understand what’s wrong with what I’ve said, and I haven’t heard a single convincing argument otherwise. Also the ‘wait until he plays decent sides’ argument doesn’t work either considering he scored last season against Man City, spurs x4, Newcastle, Aston Villa… I think I’ve made my point here.

[@StuTheDon17]

@archiewall124 There's not a lot wrong with what you've said. So calm down. All I'm saying is, this season is still new and there's a long way to go. He could go on a dry run for the next 6 weeks and look like a numpty. As I said, we should be waiting til around the 12-15 game mark before we start giving out the "best at ..." type claims. You could end up being correct. You could end up being wrong. We'll have to wait and see.

[@archiewall124]

@@StuTheDon17I didn’t claim he’s the ‘best at…’ anything. He’s not that. He’s got a lot to improve still. But he already has come along leaps and bounds since he signed which was my main point.

[@AntonGranbo]

Im AMAZED how you think its 100% a red card. Its less than a second after the whistle is blown. The rule has been enforced 4 times in 100 incidents this season, 3 of those were Arsenal players and 2 resulted in redcards and neither of those were actuallt yellows.

[@sven3316]

Sorry but what? No way is that a second yellow for Trossard, the time between the whistle and his kick was less than a second. Oliver absouletly bottled this game.

[@hello-vg9bg]

Liverpool didn't absolutely batter Forest? They had 2 more shots on target than Forest. Created .8 xG to .6 xG. We defended brilliantly and limited them to low quality chances. Oh but wait high possession means the other teams getting battered!

[@LiiveGunner]

The arsenal players are not playing on a level playing field against referees, media, and PGMOL. Arsenal fans need to stop being naive on small margins on winning trophies 🏆 🙄. Last season, Manchester City won by 2 points, but there was no penalty for Liverpool and save. City. It's about consistency 😌

[@itsjustgillian]

Never seen so many people suck off the refs like this weekend. Trossard is passing the ball to Martinelli, why after the Declan red would he boot the ball away?? He was passing. How many other games have we had a delayed restart from someone kicking the ball this season? How many get booked for it? Same ref that didn't send Kovacic off last season, cos he 'didn't want to ruin the game' Same ref that didn't book Szoboszlai last weekend, for kicking the ball away...

[@bobnotcher7198]

He had to send him off because he kicked a ball 0.86s after the whistle. It wouldn’t be anymore ridiculous if we saw it always punished. As it is clearly the ref does have a choice because they aren’t booking everyone who kicks the ball away. The PGMOL are ruining football. Stop messing about by focusing on booking a player for kicking a ball after the whistle and start demanding that referees make better decisions and actually use VAR to correct the ones they get wrong instead of just backing each other up.

[@benabbey1995]

How the football fill in doesn't get millions of views is beyond me always insightful from the lads 👏

[@leemccann88]

Man utd keeper will get found out from a top 10 teams

[@jackritchie4836]

😁👏

[@ryhuck5383]

At least you remained unbiased for the animated intro. What a joke lol

[@datascience244]

How exactly is it 100% a red? Have you considered the amount of time that elapsed between the whistle and when he kicked the ball? You say we can all see it, He was behind trossard and it was only 0.84 seconds after. WHat kind of analysts are you that really dont analyse but just parrot talking points? How long do you think it took between the whistle and the kick? Analysts

[@elshaarawy9255]

did they fell out with bridge

[@SaimeerG]

No they said it before he's just busy

[@Iiamkellyq]

Hopefully he doesn’t come back on

[@cruelmole]

Absolutely never a red. Ridiculous decision, just helping city again the same way he did last season.

[@kieranm2514]

Yes it is😂 Keep crying about it

[@6t7ghost]

@@kieranm2514keep celebrating a draw against 10 men 😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡

[@stevescourou8006]

@@6t7ghost If I were a City fan, I would be celebrating - Last minute goals = scenes regardless of who/what/when. What I find laughable is how people wax lyrical about City, yet they struggled to perform. 33 shots, over 70% possession and 1 goal in the dying minutes. I'm sorry, but that is pitiful.

[@6t7ghost]

@@stevescourou8006 yeah I agree but I’m more stating the fact they celebrate a draw against 10 men when a club of their abilities should’ve wiped us clean, the tide is turning and as an Arsenal boyhood fan I’m excited

[@stevescourou8006]

@@6t7ghost The tide isn't turning until Arsenal win silverware and City don't. Until then, Arsenal cannot rest on their laurels at this stage - early days. The signs are so promising though!

[@samhuggins2656]

Chelsea beat the moyes team 5-0🤣🤣

[@abuozzy18]

1

[@trz678y]

every creator on the arsenal bandwagon

[@samafc1]

So I wanna know a few weeks ago you said Raya was not an acrobatic keeper how do you feel now after he just ruined your assessment of him ? Madness not everyone should have an opinion because usually it's biased and wrong. You where a bad keeper so the fact you feel you can even comment on the ability of a keeper is hilarious to me

[@Bharani20]

So much propaganda talk for some of their “mates” whether refs or players

[@connorclements4630]

Jackson now has more non-penalty goals than Salah, Son, Isak since he started at Chelsea. Let that sink in...

[@kieranm2514]

Perfect example of why you don’t pay attention to stats, he’s no where near any of those players

[@ElSeñorLump]

​@@kieranm2514 exactly. Doesn't contribute nearly as much as the rest of those players and most goals are tap-ins, just look at the Spurs game last year

[@archiewall124]

@@kieranm2514do you expect him to be? He’s been in professional top flight football two and a half years. He’s doing much better than those names were at that stage in their career.

[@archiewall124]

@@ElSeñorLumpif you think all Jackson does is score tap ins, you either don’t watch Chelsea play or just don’t like Chelsea and/or Jackson.

[@kieranm2514]

@@archiewall124 No he isn’t😂😂😂

[@thesmilingtitan]

So glad Goldfish aint here for this, wouldve blown my ears with his takes.

[@elarabymohammed1]

These guys are out of touch actually. Especially that goalkeeper/set piece coach. Just reminds me of my uncles at a family gathering when they talk non sense 😅

[@thesmilingtitan]

So glad we have rational people here talking about the City V Arsenal game. Mark Goldfish would've spoiled the discussion.

[@GDworld69]

As goalkeeper its a shame yall arent talking about gabriel goal , and how two arsenal players blocked the keeper !!!!!

[@Kheyoo]

Ben and the gang have had some pretty knobhead opinions last couple weeks. Starting by saying Raya is not a good goalkeeper because he doesn't look the same way like some of you "normal keepers" do (being massive both in height and size). After saying that he has made some of the best saves in the PL for years and been dominant both between the bars and in the box catching crosses and whatnot. You guys comes across as not being up to date with the game in the way you have talked down Raya.

[@sokerez]

You gotta respect the nonsense that is comming out of such pannels sometimes 🤣