O2 Inside Line | This Rose | episode 10

[@parasinthephilippines]

As an Irishman. I want England to be strong. Respect to Courtney on his 100. Top notch.

[@thewomble1509]

The way he talks, his intelligence, self respect, integrity and absolute dedication to the game are different class. His parents should be rightly proud of their son. Well done big man, you deserve all the plaudits.

[@OhDeeDoubleU]

I've never been so bored and un-excited watching England play rugby in all my life

[@Marius_vanderLubbe]

It can only get worse.

[@dulls8475]

@@Marius_vanderLubbe England lives in your mind...

[@Marius_vanderLubbe]

@@dulls8475 Well, there is certainly plenty to think about.

[@dulls8475]

@@Marius_vanderLubbe Our problems go very deep. We may not be a t1 nation for a long long time....but such is sport. Rugby is a minor sport here and is going to get smaller.

[@stevelee4952]

England right now are poor but if this is the most boring England side you have seen then you haven't been watching them as long as some of us.

[@bluesun2215]

Never mind connecting with the fans, how about connecting with the ball and getting back to winning some matches?

[@kierananderson3811]

0.40 seconds that’s me on the right. Sounds like you’re just jealous

[@bluesun2215]

I see you were there to 'fan' the dying embers!@@kierananderson3811

[@Evulnation]

First time ever on the eve of a RWC as an Englishman that I am more excited to watch other nations play over England. Honestly couldn't give much of a damn about watching ENG this year. If they play the same style and way in their first game as they did against Fiji, I'll only be watching other nations from that point on.

[@timealone7906]

Cool story 👏

[@2011hwalker]

So many other fans feel the same way, this England squad has so many dull players-Farrell, Vunipola, Youngs, Cole, Daly...I am not bothered about watching these carthorses.

[@luke.hutchinson]

They’ve clearly identified the need to communicate with fans the need for support. But is it too late? I don’t doubt the players are working hard but there seems to be a system issues likely to be upstairs with the RFU and the coaching set up.

[@thewomble1509]

They take one step forward and ten back. For example a number of England fans received timed e mails after the Fiji game. The e mails were offering merchandise discounts to "celebrate England's victory over Fiji". You really couldn't make up the shit show that is the RFU.

[@phalanx-it]

Well the RFU's CEO had a 55% pay rise, taking his remuneration to £668,000 per anum, and as he's regarded as a marketing genius (not sure who by...) I've no doubt he'll have inspirational words and ideas about congratulating Courtney on his 100th cap and England's roaring success in 2022/23. Apparently, fans aren't allowed to 'moan' about the teams performance, as it means we're just negative nellies, so looking forward to thumping Argentina, smashing through Wales or Aus and storming to a win in the semi's, then a walk in the park for the final. Every member of RFU's 'executive' board should tender their resignation once we get knocked out, and no golden parachutes. Don't blame the players, they don't pick the coach and the coach is selected by the RFU. In ye olde days, people would tender their resignation when they had done something thoroughly unprofessional and asleep in the trough, and we've lost that somewhere...

[@edwardharris2388]

Accountability and professionalism is a thing of the past mate. You want someone with authority to admit to their mistakes and change? In the UK? In 2023? You'd have better luck taking Stephen Hawking on a jog 😂

[@shonunezekiel]

I think the performance against Fiji was a small improvement compared to previous weeks - but not much better (discipline and handling were a bit better, and it felt like there was a bit more fluidity in attack)... We just need to stop kicking-away the ball (ie every kick should be contested and only kick for touch when *deep* in our own half)... these warmup games were a lost opportunity to practice attack, we just practiced defence. Lawes deserved a better team performance for his 100th cap... but so will the many England players who will retire after the World Cup... I hope we turn up.

[@noflash1603]

Honestly thats sounds about the same level of criticism as my old PE teacher and also just as dated I left school 35 years ago( thats how long England have been kicking away possession) its seems that way.i posted that this video was simply sad. Glossing over the absolute train wreck we used to call the rose . If I were to say that this team lacks one thing it would be just that ,a team ,the team!!!15 minutes of vidéo saying preps going fine camps happy etc,(total rubbish after played 3 lost 2)then thats the end of the video by the way,we got beat again. Best moment of this video Imo Blue Monday thats what should be playing for the RFU every day England rugby is broken from top down not the other way around , and Mr Lawes and the players need better deserve better such a shame

[@lucianchevvy97]

Shame about the result but I'm fully okay England's going through a bad spot, it'll get better Massive respect to Courtney, the guy is such a good role model for the sport 🙌🏼

[@Canvashed]

Ever since kit went to umbro. Its gone tits up.

[@NTL578]

There was about 12 fans at the fan event. Well done on the 100 big Courts.

[@redgozza]

Marcus the only player with his head up playing what's in front of him...

[@El_Gato1066]

100% best comment on here…. I would add Danny Care to that too - those too must start and be given free licence…

[@FRU.No.1]

I have a lot of faith in the team lads. I've played rugby from nat 1 downwards for 30years and have some idea of ups and downs in a team. Please just have a go lads. I make the oppo tackle phase after phase. Stop the kicking after every second phase. U don't need me to point this out just let the shackles go and have a crack because you are better than kick and clap rugby.

[@shonunezekiel]

Spot on! 👍

[@rob.1]

Well played Big Courts. First name on the team sheet. Hope you hang on for a few more years yet.

[@Dickie2702]

Respect to the big man, you deserved better on your 100th cap but that won't tarnish your reputation as one of Englands finest.

[@deanelsworth817]

Courtney is one of the most consistent players that England have. Gives his all every game and never gives up. He was immense against Argentina on Saturday night. Top bloke!

[@TimociMatalau-w5l]

Congratulations Courtney all the best in France 🇫🇷 2023

[@neil5006]

You certainly are one of the best players. Well deserved 👍

[@henrymilleruk100]

Literally only up from here. Massive congratulations to Courtney on his 100.

[@JeremyShackleton-i8l]

Overpriced tickets and a team that couldn't knock the snow of a washing line with a shovel - England are so dire they are virtually begging fans to stick with them.

[@06alepea1]

Unfortunately I've stopped caring whether England win or lose. This team and coaching set up has made me fall out of love with the game.

[@kingzeesh64]

Head up lads ignore the fake fans who only hate, we true fans know your putting your 100% into this and we couldn’t ask for more! ❤❤

[@kingzeesh64]

I’m not saying losing every game is acceptable, especially for england. But the hard work and dedication of the players cannot be doubted.

[@2011hwalker]

lol this squad is duller than watching paint dry, I appreciate the Genge, Earls type who give something for the shirt. Such a bunch of has beens otherwise.

[@LaChartre]

You don't only support your team when they're winning, you support them when they lose too. Lots of England fans need to get a grip and get behind their team.

[@oliversmiddy840]

A genuine shame we didn't get to hear Borthwick's inspirational words at half time or post-game in the huddle. Massive respect to Lawes, who's been a superb player for England and played well against Fiji. But this team have been totally shafted by the coaching team who just aren't anywhere near the standard required. The RFU's decision to sack Jones and replace him with Borthwick and a bunch of utter novices was idiotic.

[@vardito10]

exactly right!

[@shonunezekiel]

Borthwick was meant to take his position just after the World Cup, when he would have had a blank slate at the start of a new World Cup cycle... I have also been deeply unimpressed by what I have seen so far from this set up (agree it feels naïve, like when Stuart Lancaster was coaching England) and the coaching setup should be doing better than they are - but the job has not been taken under the conditions they signed up to so I have to give them a bit of slack.

[@GAZ1203]

Proper know it all, the “ novice “ coaching team started the World Cup pretty well I reckon !!!!!

[@wtshepherd]

That dressing room looks alarming flat for a half time when you’re losing

[@HuwSaunders-tu6xr]

Think they were winning, but still I completely agree. Rugby needs testosterone and a bit of aggression. Whilst I like the idea of the family element of their training camp, it's not firing up the energy...

[@vardito10]

we want to back you lads, just dont give daft high tackles and pass the damn ball and we'll always be with ya

[@cameronpatterson390]

8:33 with the sock on the wrong foot :)

[@timtam6442]

I saw you at that charity rugby match on Saturday

[@MisterPoppy-sc1sj]

lol

[@luke.hutchinson]

Why is Lawes concerned he’d get through training? Suggests there is still doubt around his physical ability - it’d be hard to give 100% in a game if there’s fear of injury.

[@mojack00]

might just have meant selection

[@Kkpb-fh5vt]

My understanding is that there’re pretty much always playing slightly injured these days.

[@noflash1603]

Sad, what did you expect? Fake video after another sad week, sad for Lawes he deserves so much more than this excuse of a video after all he's given. As an England rugby fan I want to see RFU reps having to face the cameras for once,make us a video about that and leave these guys tranquille

[@RossLawley]

Even with the low angles could see the empty seats at HQ. Fans seemingly have as much enthusiasm as the team looked to have walking out at half time.

[@jeff77200]

Something is not right in the camp imo...I really want to fully get behind the England team but it's difficult at the moment. I'm just not feeling or seeing the energy from the players at the moment... I just don't feel like buying an England shirt yet let's put it that way...

[@kevshaw8645]

So on the money Tim, lived on the gold Coast for 10 years, they don't like losing and so bad at losing. Even worse when they win, very much up themselves, anyway. Tim love the vids, can't wait for your coverage of the world Cup, my prediction is Argentina France final, Argentina are looking in good shape as a silent underdog. Just a thought, come on England, gotta live in hope 👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@kierananderson3811]

0.40 seconds that’s me on the right!

[@riverdart2068]

Awful team, seem more concerned with parroting the required RFU management speak and posturing when playing is required. There was a message in those empty seats at the weekend.....and it may get louder before you lot listen

[@tomw4322]

We have the players, we just need to back ourselves. When there's space on the edge, ship it don't kick it away. A bit less Boycott and a bit more Bazball and we'll be in the mix

[@elduderino3236]

Win more. That'll win over more fans.

[@jakehardman8461]

World cup here we come

[@darthmong7196]

Forget the PR shite lads. Get the performances in France in, and the fans will take care of themselves. Northampton Old Scouts were a regular opponent for my club in the noughties. Even though I mostly played in the sheep field across the road, I'm pretty sure my path crossed with Courtney on several occasions. Good on yer big guy.

[@eddycrowe2510]

Good video But that event was NOT for the "rose army members" How did them fans get invited?

[@benbutcher3062]

Start smith ! Play arundell and give him the ball! Let smith run the show like Russel does for Scotland Stop forcing players to stick to a game plan which is outdated and ineffective (we don’t have a bombsquad) It can’t get any worse than it is so why tf not

[@tobyjohnson338]

Smith is better as an impact get rid of young’s or care for Randal other than that ur bang on the money meht

[@booey28]

They did.

[@MatthewDubarry-x1q]

yes exactly what I have been thinking they subbed smith on the Fiji game and when he came on he immediately scored a try which made me wonder why he wasn't on for the whole game where he could've made a difference in that game

[@timealone7906]

Arundell has done f all for England. He did okay in the premiership but he's nothing special.

[@benbutcher3062]

I disagree, he is the sort of player who can create a spark from nothing - exactly what the backline is missing atm - just look at his debut against the Aussies @@timealone7906

[@nath4nt]

Courts deserves better.

[@MisterPoppy-sc1sj]

is it Spain squad ?

[@jharwood9795]

Getting it right? Cry me a river. This team is awful, and it all starts with Bill Sweeney.

[@J-wm4go]

While watching the Fiji game, I was so bored and uninspired by the way england were(n’t) playing I had stopped caring if England would win. I almost hoped Fiji would score and win, just to get behind some players who seemed excited and free to play. I feel for the england players as they seem completely flat and restricted on the pitch by a gameplan that looks very out of dat, and boring to play and watch. Rot starts at the top - time for the top brass of the RFU to be put out to pasture?

[@wjs7506]

Or Not this Rose?? No post match content, just hiding away, let it all simmer down. Not authentic and just rubbish all round

[@thewomble1509]

And Genge telling us all that WE are the losers because we dare criticise what we see is a sinking ship! Guess he won't mind playing in an increasingly deserted Twickenham going forward then..........

[@MJPP090909]

This reinforces my view, Borthwick is working them hard but in the wrong areas. The players may not be world cup winners but they are better than their results and the coaches are responsible. Ultimately the RFU board is responsible for hiring a sack of potatoes as coach which is a shame as I have heard that Borthwick is a perfectly nice person but I do not think he has the chops for the role.

[@senorprofe6212]

2:22 i see what you did there ;)

[@agr7879]

Never have i been so pessimistic about Englands chances at at World Cup. They’ve gone backwards at an alarming rate since Borthwick and Sinfield took over. All that so called talent, yet they have absolutely zero chance at the World Cup. Shocking that it come to this for a country like England with all our vast player resources. Please, Borthwick just leave immediately post world cup

[@edmottram798]

You should’ve been using the time productively in the build-up to the game. What a national embarrassment, you’ll get pumped at the WC.

[@james5327]

We're in a period of transition, the squads building across multiple aspects. It'll take time, We're behind you throughout the process! 🌹

[@james5327]

@chrisnunn7888 there's some changes I'd make for sure chap, but it is what it is, enjoy this WC and the journey after!

[@06alepea1]

The team is in decline. There's no talent coming up either, so we can expect a number of years in the wilderness.

[@dulls8475]

That transition started in 2003....

[@vardito10]

Borthwick seems to have no energy

[@chascook11]

England rugby struggling so let’s hear from Gareth Southgate. A man who butchered the last Euros/World Cup and should be out of a job himself.

[@leeturton9254]

How did he butcher exactly?...euro final and lost to the reigning wc champions with a corrupt referee behind them

[@oliverallan81]

Enough of these nonsensical videos and events - get on the training pitch and learn how to catch, pass, tackle and not kick the ball away every second. Losing interest rapidly

[@thereader6667]

England Rugby is a disgrace. Charging 125 quid for an Umbro shirt, to ‘wear the rose’. I’d rather slit my wrists. Feel sorry for the players, especially Courtney.

[@LaChartre]

just a game, calm down.

[@thereader6667]

@@LaChartre True it is just a game, but it’s also a burden when you’re charged nearly 300 quid for two tickets to watch professionals play like school boys. Worse when there is no explanation.

[@LaChartre]

@@thereader6667 we’re going through a bad time, that’s all. And think yourself lucky to see an historic Fiji performance!!

[@leeturton9254]

This has got to be the worst set of England player's I've ever seen.. They literally do nothing well... we always used to have a pack at the very least but even that is lightweight... don't be surprised if England don't get out the group

[@BH-ui5eb]

Christ, brining in Gareth Southgate. He is the most negative, boring bloke possible; no wonder our attack is rubbish and our players lack personality!

[@noflash1603]

😂the Steve and Gareth show,tv reality gone mad. 15 minutes of wallpaper and excuses.

[@MisterPoppy-sc1sj]

😂

[@expressoevangelism80]

No, Christ didn’t bring in Garth Southgate. Christ would have shown a few more miraculous changes. Perhaps someone who knows how to catch and run with the ball…. Jason Robinson?