Enneagram: Am I Type 8?

[@franz5998]

„Don‘t get this the wrong way: You think people are stupid..“ Me: Which wrong way? People are stupid.

[@HeavyLoser]

Franz Niedan I’m a 8w9 and “people are stupid” is literally my life motto lol.

[@Whoiskevinjones]

8's dont think other 8's are stupid! We think stupid people should be an 8, too.

[@Itstimetodie.]

@@Whoiskevinjones it’s this comment right here, this is exactly how I feel!

[@felipecagorago]

Exctly lmao

[@tanyamonique7663]

It’s the confidence of an 8 that intimidates others. As an 8, I have to constantly dim myself in groups because people quickly see me as a threat or want to lead. That’s not true!! It’s so challenging in a world that’s easily offended. To offend is not my heart. I just want to get down to what needs to happen so we don’t waste everyone’s time, money, or energy.

[@randigross1514]

TanyaMoniQue - I share the same challenge!

[@ronjaraubert462]

I think any 8 will understand you exactly! Please don't feel "too much" , because : " Our superpower is our superpower! ". You will drain your very core of being wgen you constantly try to drive full speed without losening the handbreaks. I am currently practicing to have faith in my environment and let go of all restraints (which I used to apply to myself as I was afraid of being too much for them). It feels good! Also,I have heard that 8's who realise how the other types perceive them tend to overrestrict themselves of fear of offending others. This is not what we are designed for! Shine your light (and excuse my bumpy English - it is not my mother tongue. ...)! Superpower hugs from Germany!

[@tanyamonique7663]

Ronja RäuberT Thank you 😊

[@jinwoo78]

Yes and yes! Please, can we get a planet to ourselves? 🤣 We'd be more productive lol

[@Dani-rz8dj]

THIS!!! It’s just natural. I’m always wondering why people don’t say how they feel more.

[@margaretjackson916]

“Don’t take offense to this but 9, 8 , and 1s think people are stupid.” ME: “laughs” well people are stupid 😂 (I’m an 8w7)

[@BakaryD]

I'm 9w8 and I definitely feel like most people are stupid

[@AngeVNs]

@@BakaryD I'm a 9w1 and think many people are stupid.

[@redefinedliving5974]

dont we all though? people are indeed stupid

[@niaane8567]

9s think people are ignorant not stupid.

[@kindauncool]

+@@niaane8567 Found the Ti user

[@Crystal-is2kt]

I'm a 8w7 ENFP female and I've always said, "I'd rather feel angry than sad, because sadness is such an unproductive emotion... I'd rather be fired up and get shit done!" 😳

[@dr.hebagadallahclinicalpha9871]

I am a 8w9 INFJ female . I would feel my feelings for a brief time , but I think anger is creativity and action interrupted, let's go back to work. Let's turn weakness into power . Let's turn our feelings into action, what is the fuel of action , when you get low or people put you down? Anger is a good start .

[@brereilly5252]

I'm a 8w7 ENTP female and I 100% agree

[@ritagordon9859]

Same! I'm also 8w7 and we are only 3% being women too

[@Lizzzi86]

@@brereilly5252 me too

[@daddyprometheus6539]

ENFP and 8w7? Yeah okay sure

[@kittykatfancy]

My mother's an 8 (self-identified). I remember her losing her shit one time and screaming: "The world would be so much better if everyone just LISTENED to me!" She scared the crap outta me in general, because I'm a 4. But the thing its, she was right. She's the most brilliant woman I've ever met.

[@sarahruiz2243]

A true 8 don’t WANT to be the leader. They just want things to be equal and honest. 4 is rough. I dated a 4 and he was a narcissist and that’s type 4s at their worst. Lmao

[@ToniaHelb]

I am a 8w7 and this guy, this guy is good.

[@ashleyching3166]

It's the Intuition in his Myers Briggs

[@zknight4481]

Thought the same thing. This is the only real in depth and accurate 8 video I’ve seen

[@Wolfrunner650]

Everybody is going to say their an 8 Everybody is going to think they are and 8.... But you're not

[@honorylealtad5596]

You are not an 8. Women can't be

[@honorylealtad5596]

@@Wolfrunner650 my thoughts exactly. So many casuals here.

[@danielgothits]

so true about people mistaking us for the bully, when really we're the ones standing up AGAINST the bullies. Big facts. We're men/women of the people.

[@jamesgordon5477]

The best advice I can give to anyone learning the Enneagram, especially if they readily type *themselves* as 8s or bring back 8 on a test (without feedback from others who are experienced in the Enneagram)...8 is one of the most misunderstood types (probably along with 5 and to some degree 6 and 7), do not assume someone is 8 because they seem aggressive, combative, confident, angry, whatever. I can't tell you how many 6s are going to mistype themselves as 8s (the counterphobic element is what does it). 3s also tend to mistype as 8s quite often. I'm 5w6 with a lot of CP element to my 6 wing and I've even mistyped myself as 8. During those times it was the feedback of others who knew the Enneagram well that made me remember I'm just not type 8, regardless of how I can twist around the descriptions to match my experience. It's an energetic quality. Watch videos of famous 8s, like MLK, FDR, LBJ, Churchill, Castro, Hussein...even Donald Trump (female 8s of course exist as well, Michelle Obama is a good example, also Roseanne Barr). They all have instinctual grounded-ness, even when they're on the crazier and more frenzied w7 side. 8 is a gut type. They are expansive, earthy, pragmatic. CP6 actually comes across as more openly aggressive but they don't have the grounded vibe. If the triads were elements, gut triad would be earth...think heavy, firm, immovable. 8s of all varieties have solidity about them. Often they're quieter and more low-key than descriptions make them out to be, especially if they're social variant last and/or have w9. 8s have a relatively slow cadence. If someone is very fast-talking and seems frenetic in their energy, it's more likely to be another type, such as 6.

[@blindeyeshater]

Very well said!

[@jamesgordon5477]

@@jinwoo78 I agree. The 8 has a vibe and energetic quality that is expansive and earthy that is there to some degree all the time, and it’s like almost all the time, they don’t even need to try to impact others, they do it unconsciously. 6s you can see the perspiration and feel their aggression more, it’s more conscious. They’re putting in the effort and they expect others to see it and get reciprocation.

[@harte708]

This is so true! My husband is an 8, but I has been often mistyped as a 5, because he relates to some of the central ideas of 5. But it’s his energy, presence, and magnetism that makes me sure he’s an 8. His energy is like a flat fist….very powerful, very magnetic/charismatic, so confident. But it’s a really easy confidence, not at all concerned with appearances or what others think. The energy!!! I’m a 9 and have such quiet energy lol

[@jamesgordon5477]

@@harte708 Is he a social 8? I finally learned I'm an 8 as well, but a Social 8. They're a countertype intellectual 8, and more likely to mistype as another type. Karl Marx is an example.

[@paballomokhawane929]

This guy is literally describing me better than I can describe myself

[@rossaneputri9655]

i cant stop laughing at how accurate this was

[@Itstimetodie.]

I thought it was so weird how I was laughing the entire time

[@esmeraldamiguel3921]

Same I kept laughing and going back to hear the part 😂

[@Lizzzi86]

Me too 🤣🤣🤣

[@limantinasihaloho9621]

me too.... I am an 8.

[@JourneyLT]

I really get peeved off when I ask people for criticism and they just say in a meek voice "It's good". Tell me what's good. Tell me what's bad. Be honest, because you're first against the wall if this backfires because you can't be honest with me. I've got no time for yes-men. I am open to your criticism, I'm throwing my work in front of you and I want your honest opinion. If it sucks and I'm terrible at this project, tell me that my work sucks and I'm terrible at the project because of reasons X Y and Z. This is what I want. Honesty. I'm an 8w7, but at the same time, an introvert (INTJ). I think most 8w7s are extroverted, but not me. For an INTJ, I've got pretty well developed Te, as well as a nonconformist Fi tertiary function. I always get mistyped as a Five, although if you ask me the Five is much more INTP-ish.

[@jinwoo78]

Can relate. I just want people to be real with me, not coddle me.

[@warrioribnwail]

I'm not sure i believe this stuff. But I was told to do the enegream and myers briggs tests by my sister who studies phsycology, she guessed i would be 8 before i did it n turns out she was correct. I am type 8w7 ENFJ. If you think you have an idea about what this says about me, please let me know.

[@JulieLovePeace]

I'm an 8w9 who has been working with the Enneagram for almost 20 years and my long time partner is an 8w7 with little understanding of the Enneagram. Our intensity is a big part of what attracted us to each other. Among many things, I appreciate and completely relate to his distaste for weakness in other humans and his intense loyalty and devotion to those he loves. We have a mutual need for a partner who is strong, decisive and 100% honest and have found it in each other. I suppose an 8 partnership may seem scary to some people!

[@trhair1]

As a newly discovered 8 I agree with your take. I will say what are we discussing, we need to get it done. I hate burecacy and limited thinking. We dont necessarily want to be the leader but are placed in the role because of our drive. I wake up with what needs to get done and dont complain I just do it. I also hate whining, I will ask what do you need or want make my decision and move forward. In my mind screaming next. Thank you for your insight it helps me put things in perspective. I have lost relationships because the person has lied and I cant be bothered with the nonsense. I always want the truth.

[@twlahue]

Exactly. 100%

[@successmentor]

Totally resonates with me to as an 8

[@JulieLovePeace]

Yes, what you say is totally relatable to me!

[@bravesthope]

As a 9, I LOVE 8's. They are movers and shakers like you said. As for someone who just wants to be left alone (enneagram type 9), 8's don't tolerate that and want to dig deeper. It makes me uncomfortable and impressed at the same time.

[@kimberlydavis7979]

Him:*All the apologizing, and not wanting to offend anyone* Me as an 8: "Can you get to the point please?"😂 Also, I have definitely said, very openly before, that I think the majority of people are idiots.

[@zknight4481]

To be fair, they are. But maybe I just think that bc I’m an 8 too lol

[@chaddabad]

I think the majority are as well. Entp-A type 8

[@dawnriddler]

Seriously, this video would be 10 min shorter if he didn't apologise after every sentence.

[@kimberlyanthony3331]

You nailed it. My whole life I look for the weak links and bypass (move around) those people on the job. I get things done. I know people view me as unfriendly at times. Really I'm not.

[@georgio427]

I wish I know how to bypass and do it right. I always seem to get caught up in some drama and I swear I never look for it. It just comes my way...

[@heroscape-legends5067]

The restaurant example sounds like an underdeveloped 8 like his daughter maybe. A mature 8 would immediately hop on his phone and look for other Restaurants and find one that is open and good to eat at. Or it could be just me, but emotion gets in the way of DOING. Getting things done, moving on to the next place to eat ASAP is the priority here

[@mandabwell]

I suspected my husband to be a type 8, so I dove into learning about it. I was watching this video and he was in the other room where he could hear it, he called to me, “what are you watching??? I feel like this guy is calling me out right now!!” Haha! Suspicion confirmed. Your videos are an awesome hub for enneagram insight! Considering taking the certification!

[@cuegod]

Bless you again mate.. From an 8... an 8 with ADHD... it's tough.

[@TILLEYJS]

I think 8s are the "Facts don't care about your feelings" folks at an 11 on a 10 scale.

[@mandyinseattle]

I'm so glad you said some 8s don't feel like they have to be the leader because 8s are often described as leaders , but I don't jump in and volunteer to lead unless needed, and I'll step in and make a decision easy enough, so I guess I have a strong 9 wing. I also don't feel driven to always be doing something, but I am kinetic and I do like to move physically.

[@cassondra9157]

This is the second video of yours that I've watched, and I think you are spot on! I'm an 8w7(I think), maybe a w9 if I get mad and an ENTJ. I have always been the person that has stood up for the underdog, even when I was a child. I, like your daughter, enjoy sparring with people as well. My best friend and I banter with each other all the time. People always think we are arguing, but we are just playing, and that's how we do it! Also, the people that got upset with you for saying people are stupid are probably stupid people! Haha JK, kind of. I knew what you meant. You are also right about us translating our feelings into anger. I've done A LOT of work on myself in order to actually identify and relate to my feelings and also to calm myself down when my natural reaction is to chew someone out. This is a great video thank you for sharing!

[@twlahue]

Awesome. Thanks.

[@marchkasey8729]

Yesss i had no clue about the anger thing. I just thought i had a raging hot temper 😅

[@Dani-jo9yr]

I never ever so far didn’t hear such an accurate description of 8!!!! We have a close friend 8- it’s like you totally talking of him😳🤭absolutely awesome 👏👍🌸🙏💪🥳

[@twlahue]

Thanks

[@FarmhouseVernacular]

Thank you for these videos, Tom. I'm a female INTJ 8w7 sp. Never not intense. I've had some personal stuff going down related to this the last few days so I'm feeling pretty shaken up right now. These videos are helping a lot. Thank you for posting.

[@twlahue]

Great. Let me know if you want to Skype or FaceTime.

[@FarmhouseVernacular]

@@twlahue Oh my gosh. I don't want to impose on you as I'm sure you're very busy. But if you had a few minutes to talk I would be really appreciative of some help.

[@twlahue]

@@FarmhouseVernacular Sure. If you don't want a full appointment, I can meet with you for a few minutes. Just follow the instructions on my website in the description.

[@FarmhouseVernacular]

@@twlahue Oh! I didn't know you did appointments! Thank you. Heading to the website now.

[@nesrinesth1]

Omg this was amazing and I really love arguing with people that I love it's my favorite thing to do but they think I'm just being mean and intimidating it makes me sad 🥺 And yes I think people are stupid 😒

[@alainfranken7081]

Finally someone that understands me. And you are a very awesome personality! 😊

[@15horselady]

I agree this is the base instincts for an 8. You had me cracking up when you read out many things I have thought throughout my life. The only point I want to bring attention to is that 8’s can develop through life and circumstances to hone in on their strengths and weaknesses. I have learned when and where to tone it down despite my inner struggle, and also when to let my inner hulk go. Great video!!!

[@alyssabenner5902]

I very rarely comment on anything on youtube. I am an 8 and find this to be very accurate about me. I am anger first, quick to show it externally, retreat and withdraw when overwhelmed, am a therapist (serve the "underdog" or those who desire change) and very often get called "confident" when I feel it's competence, get told I'm leader (but have never desired this), work better alone (I can be way more efficient this way), am outspoken and blunt, and am a libra ♎. 💜 Sending this to my husband!

[@alyssabenner5902]

I also have said maaaaaany times that people are stupid!! 😂😂😂

[@LessWater]

As an 8, without ever having heard someone describe it this way I self described my mind as a castle surrounded by walls and my relationships with people as envoys from other kingdoms. So hearing you talk about "the fort" had an immediate resonance with me

[@niaane8567]

This is an amazing description

[@staceyknoell6339]

"If it's not a problem, then why are you talking about it?" Three minutes in and I have never felt so seen. By the time he said 8s think people are stupid, I was like, he's in my head. I remember my high school principal telling me I was intimidating and my mother has always said, "Don't look at me in that tone of voice." And I literally have a note on my desk of that saying, "The person who says it can't be done should not interrupt the person doing it." LOL - Hello to all my fellow 8s out there!! It makes me feel better to know I'm not alone!!

[@raulsanz7120]

Go to "5", reload and breathe 3 times before starting again. ;-)

[@abstract-thoughts]

"People don't eat on Mondays?" 🤣🤣🤣. I relate strongly to 5 and 8, but I'm very action and "justice" oriented as you explained it. And can be honestly blunt and will step up to lead if people aren't doing enough. Sounds like I'm closer to 8.

[@shrunk07]

This just breaks me in the most beautiful way. You speak such truth and like so many here, for the first time, I feel so understood! The more I listen to your videos, and let the Holy Spirit direct and BE my power, I feel like I can run through life without being afraid of my own power.

[@twlahue]

You are so welcome

[@tigerbite8195]

I am sitting here, all the way across the ocean, in Greece, listening to you and laughing out loud!!! Its like looking in a mirror!

[@genasseeceline]

“They want to get to the truth. They want justice. And if everybody knew the truth, then we could all act on the right information”. Me: Pointing to the phone assertively “YES! Omg YES, duh!” 😆 (Not sure if my main is 8 or 9, but both are definitely there 😂)

[@SageLewis]

Thank you for acknowledging how hard I have to work to not throw people through the window.

[@twlahue]

I totally understand! It takes a lot of patience and effort to keep our cool sometimes. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

[@YoungstersHustle]

Dude this is the perfect video description. Especially with what you were describing around minutes 3-5.

[@twlahue]

Glad it was helpful!

[@octavianpopescu4776]

Regarding the stupidity thing... I'm an 8w9 and it's extremely, extremely rare for me to call someone stupid. I may say someone made a mistake, but it feels like using the word stupid would demean them as a whole as human beings. Sure, X made a mistake, but we all do at times. We operate in an imperfect world with imperfect information and there are a lot of things we don't know when we make decisions. So, I always view people as rational and intelligent, just making a bad call, because of feelings or insufficient information.

[@elisoshonia8662]

Omg, when you mentioned the restaurant closed on Monday... spot on!)) Getting angry when you should just be sad or frustrated-my thing)) still figuring out whether I'm 1 or 8. Now I incline more towards 8

[@starhouse3705]

I think my 13 year old daughter is an 8. I’m a 4. We have our challenges, and sometimes we are so amazing together. Ours qualities can really get on each other’s nerves too. I love how strong and resilient she is in comparison to me. An enneagram 8 was the person who FINALLY pushed me to learn guitar songs, and record my first song. He would not let me slack and pushed me all the way through. I told him he was the best teacher I’ve had, and I’ve had a lot of people try to help me in the guitar playing & singing at the same time dept. .

[@twlahue]

Nice.

[@msmulani]

Spot on me!! OMG I love this! My last bf was 3 & drove me nuts with his deception BS. Awesome 👏 Thank you 🙏🏻 You’ve clarified so much for people to understand 8 are not bullies & help the underdog through empowerment.

[@haleytruslow7200]

My current boyfriend is a 3 and the omission of truth bullshit drives me fucking insane. Just tell me the TRUTH

[@CERARICKERBY]

This has changed my life. Always believed I was a five, but I've realised I'm a STRONG 8, but have 5 tendencies when stressed.. Thankyou!!

[@jesusmejia3417]

Still think that?

[@ericadunn9435]

I'm an 8. I'm a disruptive and destabilizing force who bakes banana bread and fights with management. And I'm headhunter constantly for the effect of my disruption because the incompetents find new jobs and my go-go-go/do-do-do inspires everyone else.

[@mystuff8579]

Lord you sound just like one of my daughters down to the banana bread.😂 She will bake you the most tender loaf of banana bread and cuss you clean out on the same day.😂

[@moragonzalez237]

holy shit man, you´re speaking with more truth than a drunk man! and believe me, that's not easy. good job bud!

[@GirlWarrior144]

Hey Tim! This video is so good! As an 8w7 you are cracking me up with the accuracy of your statements! When i was younger, I did think a lot of people are stupid, and i also would get angry and blamed others at times. Ine of my mottos is "Rules are for chumps."😂😂 I Worked way too hard but accomplished a lot! Now that I'm older and wiser I'm not so full of myself 😂 and nicer to be around.

[@whitecherry8170]

Tom...I just wanted to say thank you.Your videos really help me to understand myself,and others around me.And we 8s' dont get offended at what you say cause we know that someone who speaks the truth is worthy of us... just kidding!😉So thank you brother.😊

[@lynnykhoury]

Everything you said is exact. I have never in my 40 years felt this seen & understood. 🤯

[@TimosPax]

Man! It's so relatable it's scary! Great video Tom! Keep it up!

[@realSimoneCherie]

Very rarely discussed breakdown! Weak vs Not Weak. Makes perfect sense 💁🏽‍♀️

[@jmvanzalinge5023]

Oh. My. Goodness! I can tell just by listening to this that my husband is an 8. And I'm a 9. So when there's something I'm having a hard time communicating and he's not wanting to hold my hand and he finally gets me to react by yelling something at him (this has only happened 2 or 3 times in our 8 years of marriage) he sees it as an accomplishment. He thinks we're finally getting somewhere and starting to communicate. While I'm telling him that he pushed too far and I'm on the smallest limb and afraid of falling. Again, this has only happened a few times but I totally related to how 8s like to argue. And that last bit with taking charge and getting stuff done and not everyone appreciating it because of the approach. Totally my husband right there!

[@NewlyAwakened]

I'm a female 8 with fairly balanced wings but probably lean closer to an 8w9. Also ENTJ. You hit the nail on the head a few times especially about just speaking direct. One thing I can't stand is small talk, niceties, beating around the bush. We simply don't have time for that. And yes, we have that hard, crunchy outer shell to protect our soft inner vulnerable core. I've discussed it a few times on my channel and had some definite epic 8 rants from time to time that even to this day I get a good laugh from. My "Fuck You Fairy" stream is one I can recall off the top of my head. I should post the links cause I have actually seen other Ennegram channels ask to see Ennegram 8 women because apparently there aren't that many out there.

[@NewlyAwakened]

Ok I found a good one. It's a long stream but starting at 2:43:00 I discussed my relationship with my husband who is a 7. It gets juicy and my full blown Ennegram 8 comes out at around 2:56:00 when a troll comes into my stream and it all goes off the rails talking about MGTOW kzbin.info/www/bejne/nX3Qo6etlstjjZI

[@MasterMetaphysicalAstrologer]

Wow. What a beautifully presented, thoughtful presentation of this sometimes challenging structure. I appreciate your compassion and reflection. As an 8, I thank you.

[@Whoiskevinjones]

This is spot on. If it weren't true hearing you say that 8's think all people are "stupid" I would share the video with everyone I know!! 😄

[@diplomat2623]

The way you explained being above the law topic, is accurate.

[@baaf777]

Good stuff, most of it resonates. Except that the first thing eights think of in the morning is a list of things they want to get done. That’s applicable to NTJ and STJ eights. I wake up early and do a ton of work every day but don’t plan it. ESTP 8w7

[@twlahue]

great point.

[@franz5998]

I am an ENTP 8w7 and I definitely have a list of things that I want to get done.. it‘s just that I do lots of different things and, by the end of the day, I beat myself up for not completing all the to dos.

[@trustyourself-ashleyching3646]

Thank you; I’ll be relistening to these pep talks all day for what I’m going through right now.

[@techdevil22]

WOW brother ... WOW!!! I just took the test and I'm a solid 8 and this was amazing!!! Thanks you!!

[@brandonbarnes6764]

I think Jack Shepherd on Lost is a great example of a healthy 8 who is both a challenger and a protector. Absolutely nothing gets in his way and he uses all his natural strength to look out for the others.

[@nashpoopiz]

Bro, it's SO good. Infos so well put together.

[@mystuff8579]

You have 8s down pat. You are describing my twins down!!!! I adore 8s. They are the funniest.🥰

[@tuhituhitu]

Nice, this is me and I’m an INTJ too. Very accurate description!

[@twlahue]

You sound like a very powerful person. Blessings.

[@tuhituhitu]

Dr. Tom LaHue Thanks for the compliment Tom, too powerful sometimes lol. I’m enjoying your channel, keep up the good work 👍🏼

[@cassondra9157]

I agree with the accuracy as well. I'm an ENTJ

[@gracebennion2000]

Ive stopped you at 10 mins (gotta do stuff), but everything you are saying about an 8 is so so so true. Problem is, with the fam member who is in 8, she doesn't have any self awareness. Any problem is not hers .... its everyone elses. Often her words in an overwhelming situation is ... "Im done". More recently her catch phrase has been "I make things happen". Couldn't be truer. Usually, I hear the enneagram types describe their type unwittingly. A dear Type 1 friend loves to say "perfect" in her sentences. "I'm looking for the perfect chair" etc. It has to be right. Love your video. I will check in again.

[@TheBlackAmericana]

Thank You Thank You so much for this! This describes me to a T and I really stress out and worry about how it affects my relationships. I will continue to improve how I interact with ppl but now I know it's not because I'm a horrible person! I'm just an 8! Thank You!

[@TrustNotMyHeart]

7:41 - 8:01. FACTS...Why are we even having this conversation? Especially, if you don't want to hear what I think we should do.

[@hackinglife9710]

“Or whatever you are”. Love it

[@marishaten7399]

You have described me to a t here. Only thing is, I HATE having to take care of the 'stupid people'. Still, when I see someone being mistreated I have this instinctual need to protect them. I hate it but I can't stop doing it.

[@ronjaraubert462]

I love your videos, Tom- thank you! Yet, I fundamentally disagree with the idea that 8's go by the notion that people are stupid. Strong or weak/ irrelevant or to be reckoned with/competent or incompetent/ friend or foe- yes. But stupid ? No. And on a structural level, it must be clear that this is not a category a gut-type can relate to: because "stupid" does not trigger any immediate action. Stupid-incompetent although in a higher rank will immediately result in attack or at least challenge. Whereas Stupid-incompetent in a lower rank will result in offers of support and help. Stupid alone doesn't bother an 8. P.S: I loughed out LOUD- L O U D!- when you said : "the regulations have been written 20years ago.....". I am a lawyer and specialise in challenging "old" high and supreme court decisions ". Goodness gracious - this is fun.

[@jasmintorino6129]

Same here..I don't perceive people as inherently stupid (unless blatantly obvious). Rather, I view some people as illogical or without common sense. And that's when the anger or frustration builds.

[@mahrigoshayeva3582]

The best description❤

[@dianeadamidis315]

Huba Huba!!! Love Love this video! I am not offended at all by your assessment! It made me feel better!

[@cheriser9181]

Omg! You nailed it. This is me to a T

[@lazybrabbit7954]

2/13/22 I’m a 5-7-8 All wings are 6’s. I’m sending this to a person whom I thought was a true friend only to find out he betrayed me making fun of me behind my back. I’m in 100% agreement in your description. My son once described me, “your first offense is your last with my mum, better make sure it’s right.” Well at 76 I’ve mellowed albeit not much. Pride goeth before the fall, opps I’m proud to be a 5/7/8. Thank you, subscribed to your channel. For Richard Rohr also has excellent information on the Enneagram.

[@wonderwomanmomma4112]

Could you do a video on the difference btw 8w9 and 9w8? I go btw the 2. I almost feel like sometimes I am one and other times I am the other.

[@robferguson9801]

Great video. I am an 8. This helps so much to confirm it. I almost feel like I just admitted to being an alcoholic because 8's get such bad billing. I hope to be a good guy. Working on it.

[@אביגילזבולוני-צ2י]

I'd never heard something so correct about myself in my whole life😍🤩

[@twlahue]

Awesome

[@viktormarosvary8673]

I love your videos, keep them coming! There should be a new love language added called: "Fighting" :) But seriously, I now understood a some past incidents where I did not get that challenging is not personal, but a kind of friendliness. I love how I am learning compassion through the Enneagram.

[@twlahue]

Awesome. Glad to help.

[@major91111]

Thank you so much. learning about myself helped me heal and know what I need.

[@cheryllee5133]

Exhaustion... my motto used to be "SLEEP IS FOR THE WEAK!"

[@antoinepaul78]

I like to make others feel like they are right when the right decision is made. I may persuade them but let them make the decision.

[@twlahue]

That's a cool way to handle things. Letting them think it was their idea all along is clever!

[@jrams4145]

8w7 and I think as opposed to thinking most people are stupid I think a lot of people are aimless or lack regular thoughtfulness throughout the day, only with regards to their specific goals and passions, which can come off as "stupid" but is pretty different

[@ThePosh_Parrot]

Agree 8s are not usually the bully, it’s the cp6s and the 3s at least with my life experience

[@twlahue]

Who knew the Enneagram could be like a high school cafeteria, with different types taking on different roles!

[@billbutton7669]

Your descriptions of all the types thus far have been so much more easy to envision then many of the Enneagram books. No offence to the books, I just appreciate when you take, for example the line on 8s wanting to use their authority, to mean that they just want to get things done. It's a nuance that the author of the book should have taken into account. We're talking about flat out power tripping vs "oye mate, you mind doing this, we need it done for the project?". Also, I'm sorry if I misinterpreted what you were saying. I'm not an 8 (maybe an 8 wing) so I might have projected my own type into your description.

[@ZhiyingHarp]

Growing up, there has never been '8' friends in my life. I just never have 8 people in my life. This is a good video, in case i ever meet an 8.

[@petestranger4460]

in the 16:00 you're apologizing for saying that 8's think people are stupid. Don't. Seriously. I'm one of the healthiest 8's I personally know and let me tell you something, I truly do think people are stupid. For real. Don't apologize. It's true. I hate people that say stuff lik "I'm an ESFJ 2W3 scorpio and bla bla and I can attest to bla bla" but for real, I'm an 8 and sometimes I do get myself saying that people are stupid. Even though I don't agree with me (which is funny if you think about it) I truly do sometimes literally think precisely that

[@petestranger4460]

by the way, I just realized I might have sounded judgemental or like I was criticizing. I wasn't. I was actually laughing really hard while I wrote it, because it's so true and it's really funny

[@twlahue]

@@petestranger4460 Thanks for your comment. I laughed at it. So good.

[@mangos2888]

PeteStranger, as a “healthy 8”, stop calling all 8’s view of people as an insulting, condescending descriptor. I’m also a strong 8 and default that people are not stupid - just wrong. Maybe they’re wrong by mistake or misinformed, but they’re just wrong. Only call them stupid when you’re out for vengeance.

[@consciouscrypto3090]

Well as a 1, let me just concur that people are in fact stupid. Stands to reason. I mean average IQ means that people falling below it brings the average down, yet there are some extreme outliers at the top. So if you work it out, of course you have a lot of people pulling the average down and just a few pulling it up. Duh.

[@jinwoo78]

I personally do not go around thinking people are stupid, but I also always do to the best of my ability to keep away from people in general because it's the human factor that almost always gets in the way of getting things done. I'm on average "health" for an 8, but I don't go out of my way to bulldoze people, generally. I am aware of my own power and capacity to destroy and I always take care to never assert or misuse that power. I always try to encourage and talk it out with people if we have problems with each other.

[@ammarkhalil34v]

I used to think most people were stupid.. and I still do. But as I matured I realized that they're not as stupid as they seem.

[@MBTIMemes]

Hey, in your video tags you don't have anything Type 8 related. I'd add tags like "type 8", "am i type 8", "type 8 description", "type eight" and so on, so KZbin knows what your video is about and can recommend it to other people.

[@twlahue]

Thanks, I will fix it. For all my videos :-(

[@MBTIMemes]

@@twlahue And when are you going to do it? ;) I know it's a lot of work, if you want I can do it for you (I'm being serious).

[@BF-non]

I was sure of being type 5w4 but a LOT of this resonates with me. The: there are strong people and weak people and I will be strong talks to me more than the Fear of self preservation of the 5.

[@twlahue]

It's interesting how personality types can resonate differently for everyone. Embracing strength is a powerful perspective!

[@jebberjeb]

"maybe some lights are coming on for you"... uh yeah, feels like I just stared into the sun

[@zknight4481]

I’m laughing so hard about the “You need to go to the manager. You need to take this sandwich back, it’s not what you wanted” bit bc that’s me. I give more of a fuck about other people being “wronged” than they do and most of the time more of a fuck than about myself being “wronged” 😅 I don’t think it’s even about them being wronged. It’s about the fact that people who won’t stand up for themselves drive me nuts. Like just tell them the damn order is wrong 😩 I also feel like I have to share my knowledge with people so they aren’t taken advantage of. I’m an attorney and the amount of free legal advice I give out- unsolicited- because I can’t stand watching people get fucked over is insane

[@SoulfulVeg]

"Our super power is super power!" "If it's not a problem why are we talking about it?" And the 8's "fort!" Wow, LOL! Exactly!🤣🤣

[@NoOne-wt6om]

"People are stupid. If I get along with them, they will leave me alone." That's 100% my mindset as a 9.

[@wisdomtooth2340]

This was amazing, thank you!

[@lucymooon]

Hillariously accurate - thank you!

[@michaelwhite9288]

I’m and 8 & 1. 98% #8 and 95% #1. But everything you described in an #8 is on point.

[@twlahue]

cool.

[@lourenssianturi4373]

I am eight! I am five wings 6 and 4, I protect weak people. But i always ended up being hated by everybody, including people i was trying to protect. I still love being eight!

[@camilleward9157]

Bwahaha!! At 27:05.. that’s my 4 yr old to a TEE. You got it down to her grunt even. 😂Impressive

[@twlahue]

Awesome.

[@Aaliyahnadege]

I am an 8w9 and was misidentified as a 2w3. I can definitely tell you I am indeed an 8w9🤣

[@chemundergrad]

Thank you, this is my husband!

[@nat3131]

OMG I loved that! It's so true! I always want to throw people through a window. But I don't do it! It takes all in me! and years of meditation amd breathing exercises, and wrestling with myself...

[@tanascristina9794]

29:03 - this could save a marriage

[@KeyHeir]

Don't justify the "stupid" comment. I appreciate you being honest and direct. Lol!