Enneagram vs. Myers Briggs | Pros and Cons

[@AbbeyHowe]

Take a free MBTI & Enneagram test to find out your type: 16 Types: bit.ly/abbeyand16types Enneagram: bit.ly/abbey-ennea-oct

[@nkopanelesedilebona9227]

Both tests are pretty good in my opinion, but the MBTI test seems like a verbatim and shorter version of one I've already seen 😂🤭🤔

[@exploremylocalarea946]

Divination. It is the same thing like going to psychic reading. ‘Do not turn to mediums or seek out spiritists, for you will be defiled by them. I am the Lord your God.

[@lmlitz72]

Careful with those online MBTI tests though. They are highly unreliable and almost everyone types as an INFJ or INFP.. The best thing to do is study the cognitive functions! Loved this video!

[@AbbeyHowe]

Thanks for the tips Lianne!

[@Omii_3000]

Yeah I find it interesting how people can type the rarest type easily, by not looking at cognitive functions.

[@theyetti90]

Or take the official test, which isn't the same as the kind you find on 16personalities.

[@JaneThatcher89]

I’ve noticed that People soooo often mistype because they aren’t honest when they take the test, or they don’t have enough self awareness to take the test with full honesty. They answer the test questions based on who they wish they were or how perceive themselves to be, which is sometimes so skewed or delusional. One person I know intimidates everyone with a strong aggressiveness and abrasive presence… but she believes she comes across as warm, gentle and kind. It’s interesting. Sometimes I think people would be better off having their closest loved one take the test for them, someone who knows them deeply enough to be able to answer the questions objectively/unbiased. ❤

[@theyetti90]

@@JaneThatcher89 the official site explains exactly how to take the test, to avoid this, before you start.

[@fckyafeelingz4064]

The way I discern between the two is as follows: The Enneagram focuses internally. Internal pushing externally or outward. MBTI is the external world being processed and assigned meaning/value internally.

[@AbbeyHowe]

interesting! thanks for sharing!

[@karissahammond4587]

The biggest difference I've noticed in the community these personality systems attract is this: People will sometimes use MBTI to excuse their flaws, thinking that because their personality is prone to x, y, or z there is nothing wrong with it, but I have not yet seen this in the enneagram community. For example, the most common MBTI excuse I've heard from my own circle of friends goes something like, "I'm an introverted thinker, so it's okay if I'm rude to people." On the other hand, Enneagram straight up tells you that any type can be unhealthy and need self-improvement, and so I see a lot less excuses being made for any type's weaknesses. Enneagram doesn't give anyone a free pass. It took me much longer to warm up to enneagram because it can be so harsh, but in the end I think I like it slightly more for that exact reason. If anyone was curious, I'm an Enneagram 4 and an MBTI style INTP/INFP (depending on the test).

[@AbbeyHowe]

thanks for sharing your perspective, Karissa! love to hear it!

[@KairaisnotaLiopleurodon]

Loved the analysis!

[@karissahammond4587]

You're welcome, and thank you both!

[@mai-lan4222]

Hi! I definitely agree with you but if you want to know your MBTI type, I’d recommend to study the cognitive functions, not to take tests (as they can mistype you)

[@karissahammond4587]

@@mai-lan4222 Definately! I haven't studied it all nearly as much as I should. The truth is that most tests put me at INFP, but a friend who has studied the functions and knows everything much better than I do puts me at INTP. I trusted the INTP more than the INFP, but I could still see why a test would put me there. I should study more.

[@nicolevayres]

We’re loving your content Abbey! One addition: the MBTI actually has TONS of deeper nuances (like the 8 cognitive functions... which 4 you operate with... if they’re dominant, auxiliary, tertiary, or inferior cognitive functions, etc.). Happy to nerd out with you on that sometime! Also, the Myers-Briggs Co and Cloverleaf are both of our clients, and we’re so pumped to see you making huge leaps influencing in this category!

[@jordan-zj9wi]

As an INTP-T and an Enneagram 5, I don’t think I would choose between either. Both have helped me understand who I am and I get the same one everytime. Anyways, love your channel Abbey!! ❤️

[@AbbeyHowe]

Well said! Thanks, Robyn!

[@jamiehenderson6387]

Yes. Both are helpful in their own ways. No need to choose between them.

[@This_Holy_Chaos]

Spoken as a true INTP/type 5. I’d say EXACTLY the same thing and I’m the same types. Both personality assessments have great merit and value for different reasons. I always recommend and talk about both.

[@dududuckswan5670]

Hello, I'm an INFJ and I wanna say something about the T part on your INTP-T. In mbti there is actually no A or T (assertive or Turbulence). The 16 personalities(.)com actually combined two stuff: the 5 big personality and the Mbti. I meant no personal shade. I just want to share...

[@despaahana]

I like doing both systems because each of them helps me in different ways. I'm a type 5 and an ISTP.

[@Shiri_Yam]

What's your wing?

[@despaahana]

@@Shiri_Yam I don't think I have one.

[@nkopanelesedilebona9227]

MBTI is about cognitive functions, not the letters, the letters are simply a name, a symbol, an ID. I mostly just refer to it as cognitive typing instead of MBTI instead anymore, because I like Jung's original work too, which isn't MBTI, but was the most important core of it. He came up with the 8 cognitive functions, and his system only had 8 types. An ID number won't tell you who I am, but using it will definitely help you find out things about me (at least if you have the resources and are creepy enough to dig up stuff about me like that 😂).

[@milaalaniva775]

Exactly! Understanding what Fe dom actually is and my annoying Ti issues has helped tremendously.

[@AMoniqueOcampo]

I actually like BOTH Enneagram AND MBTI. (Although I tend to like Enneagram a LITTLE more because there are so many ways that it helps me out with life). Also, hello fellow INFJ!

[@AbbeyHowe]

hello fellow INFJ!

[@stenpablo3045]

i think enneagram is slightly more vague, considering there are only 9 types but i think the best way of going about things is combining the two (mbti and enneagram) and finding out your personality concoction yano? For example, figuring out I was an ENTP helped me a lot with my social life and just feeling better about myself in general. Finding out I was a 7w6 helped me understand why I constantly like doing things and why I hate boredom so much (however, type 7 is closely resembling extroverted intuition so honestly, the enneagram just reinforced things that mbti has already told me - that being said, people who struggle relating to mbti could be because their enneagram is one that contrasts their mbti like an ESTP 4w5 for example. Conclusion: both are great, so use them equally!

[@NeraizeI]

Enneagram has nine base types but they have wings and tritype combinations as well, it's definately more complex than MBTI imo

[@nkopanelesedilebona9227]

@@NeraizeI you're correct, but I recommend you read on of my comments on why add-ons don't necessarily make something deeper or more complex. It's just enneagram's approach

[@nkopanelesedilebona9227]

Both systems can seem shallower than another to those who haven't gone deep enough into it, both are pretty good for going into different aspects of a person at a deep level, just in different ways. I like to think that cognitive functions are core internal processes and enneagram is more like motivations and attitudes, contrary to what Abbey said, I think that in some way, it also focuses heavily on interactions and just comparisons and differences between people, MBTI isn't alone in this or even simply more focused on it. Both are good at it.

[@AbbeyHowe]

thanks for sharing your perspective on both typing systems!

[@jamiehenderson6387]

I’m an ENTP and 7w8. I so completely agree with you. Using them together is ideal to me.

[@gmolseed3600]

For me personally as a ESFJ 3w2, I find the enneagram a bit more confusing sometimes, but I probably just need to do more research as I am fairly new to it. I like mbti (I swear off the 16personalities test and use the functions) because it helps me understand how I interact with the world and helps me understand how others interact with the world. The mbti community can a be a bit toxic, but if you stay on the right side (aka the side without the unhealthy bias towards intuitives and thinkers) it’s a really cool system that can be used for self growth, introduction to different psychology theories, and just understanding others a lot better. I’m still fully educating myself on the enneagram, but to me it seems more of a personal system, because you have to go into deep self reflection, and while that’s helpful for self growth, it’s hard to use it to connect with others and understand them better unless they’ve done the research too and know their type. I don’t know if that’s all coherent, but my preferences kinda are based on how useful each system is to me and how.

[@NeraizeI]

ESTJ 3w2 here! I often feel out of place to be in the typology community, we don't usually appear much here to begin with. I've personally found more value in Enneagrams, due to its complexity is less generalising and stereotyping than MBTI on its own. Both are fantastic tools for helping understand people nonetheless

[@AbbeyHowe]

Thanks for sharing!

[@sophiebartsch8033]

I am the exact same :)

[@Jonwatchin]

When I first figured out my MBTI, much of my life made so much sense. I learned how to take care of myself and that I needed to recharge with time to myself. It made even more sense when I discovered years later that I was a 4w5, and like you said, using them together has helped me understand my inner self as well as how I operate and function in conversations, social situations, and my motivations. Great video!

[@myname8272]

I used to love MBTI when I discovered it but now I find enneagram somewhat more useful, and I like that the types have more layers (instinctual subtypes, wings, tritype) Also, I feel like a lot of people in the MBTI community don't really care about self-improvement and only like MBTI because it makes them feel superior due to being intuitives or thinkers. This is not necessarily the fault of the system though. Anyway, they are both great if we use them right. PS: Thank you for the video, A 5w4 from Hungary 🙂

[@AbbeyHowe]

hello from California!

[@adelbenyovszky6149]

Szia Fanni (remélem, nem gond, hogy csak így letegezlek), tök jó érzés magyarokat találni, akiket érdekel az ilyesmi, amennyire én átlátom, nálunk még nem túl közismertek ezek a személyiségtipológia-rendszerek. (Találkoztál már esetleg a Szellem szikrák YT csatornával? Az az egyetlen, amit magyarul ebben a témában találtam) Én jelenleg az MBTI-ban vagyok inkább benne, az Enneagrammel még csak most ismerkedem - egyetértek veled és a több más kommentelővel, hogy a kettő remekül kiegészíti egymást. Üdv a Felvidékről! - INFP 4w?5

[@adelbenyovszky6149]

Egyébként igen, az MBTI-közösségben sok a sztereotípia, meg a nagy egójú ember, de mindig találok sok olyannal is, akik igyekeznek részrehajlás nélkül nézni a dolgokat és lerombolni a negatív előítéleteket

[@myname8272]

@@adelbenyovszky6149 Szia, dehogy gond. 🙂 Igen, nagyon úgy tűnik hogy nálunk még nem annyira ismert, illetve akik ismerik sem feltétlen ássák bele magukat túlzottan. Ennek lehet köze ahhoz, hogy nincs túl sok magyar nyelvű tartalom a témában, én is csak a Szellem szikrák csatornájáról tudok. Mindenesetre jó látni hogy másokat is érdekel. Egyébként én is INFP vagyok, bár teszteken többször is INTP jött ki, úgyhogy néha elbizonytalanodom.

[@adelbenyovszky6149]

Igen, @Fanni Takács, valószínűleg ez lehet az oka, sajnos a legtöbben csak a 16personalities-ig jutnak... remélem, azért ez idővel majd változik. Én is újra és újra megkérdőjelezem a típusom (MBTI-t és enneagramot egyaránt), de aztán mindig arra jutok, hogy ez az ami a leginkább passzol. A Type Cast Heroes amúgy pont nemrég csinált egy érdekes videót a Ti és Fi közötti különbségről. Na, abbahagyom a "ramblingelést", szép napot neked! :)

[@Introvert_Honey]

You come across as an ENFP, which are the most introverted extroverts.

[@manik260]

That's exactly what i was thinking

[@nathangibson2114]

Great video. Entp 7w8 (378 tri-type) Its like comparing a screwdriver vs a hammer. Two different tools for two different objectives. How i generally explain it. If you want to understand your emotions: ennegram If you want to understand your mind: mbti

[@laerrus]

INTJ 9w8 here. I'm so happy to finally learn your type Abbey! They're not better than the other. They have different uses. Its like when people ask if you like dogs or cats better. They're not comparable in that way! They're different species and people love them for different reasons. I feel like the Enneagram is more people and motivation oriented and MBTI is more data oriented. Enneagram CAN tell you a little more about the WHY behind a person whereas mbti just explains how we process information and make descions. Mbti provided me with the knowledge of the cognitive functions. Introverted intuition explained my brain process so well. I hate the letter dichotomies but i can't think of another way to explain this. Enneagram is more feeling preferencey and MBTI is more thinking preferencey. Hope this makes sense and I got this across properly.

[@AbbeyHowe]

Totally!! Well said, Sarah!

[@jamiehenderson6387]

I think this is an excellent explanation! I am married to an INTJ/9. It’s cool to see another out in the wild. 😆 I am close to a few INTJs, but the others are all 5s.

[@laerrus]

@@jamiehenderson6387 Aw thank you so much! Also I love that I'm "out in the wild" 😂 Its so cool you're married to an INTJ 9. We totally exist! Though I think we may be mistaken for INFJs sometimes (at least I am)

[@jamiehenderson6387]

He does too. I’ve framed it as an INTJ with high emotional intelligence. But tests do occasionally have him as INFJ. Though he clearly isn’t.

[@northwind6199]

@@laerrus I'm an INTJ 8. Half the people online tell me I can't be an 8, the other half tell me I must be an ENTJ. What a life

[@mcbutter9]

I'm a 9 and I've taken the mbti test SO. MANY. TIMES. and I still don't relate to any of the ones I've gotten. I think that's why I was drawn to the enneagram, it's just a commonly known issue with 9s to be bad at making decisions and for some reason the mbti test was so much harder for me

[@Kikketta11ify]

Personally i prefer the enneagram because i feel 100% understood by it, it was rather easy to find that out (i just had to be completely honest with myself), i got consistent results in all tests and reading descriptions i was like “yup, that’s totally me”, while for the mbti i’ve been studying the cognitive functions and the types for months now and i’m still unsure of my type because i feel like i don’t fit any of them 100%

[@Texaslawhorn]

Enneagram 9/ INFP or ISFP depending on the test I take (INFP according to Cloverleaf). I like both, but I tend to go to the enneagram more because while it can be complex with the wings and tritypes, etc., I personally find it easier on the whole to mentally grasp and think about people in terms of just 9 groups instead of 16. Dealing with 8 other types can be challenging enough!

[@lunabeekhuizen8858]

I'm an INFP 8w7. I swear, my personality only makes sense when you know both those parts

[@brismiley]

I am a 9w1(though I do also see a lot of 8 in myself also) and I am an e/iNFP. I am also Cancer and the year if the Fire Horse. I am also 7.4.8 (Hidden Symmetry. An ancient Chinese typing. You can find out about it through a book called Your Hidden Symmetry by Jean Haner) Knowing all of these helps me to understand myself better. Of them all, I feel the symmetry is scary accurate. And I do see myself in each and every one of my types. Knowing all of these do not define me as much as it gives me the tools to grow to being the best version of myself.

[@carolfinn4027]

I actually had been wondering the difference. Years ago I took the Myers Briggs, which seemed a more complicated test, then recently discovered the enneagram, which seemed so much simpler. Now I want to retake. Thank you for explaining that.

[@AbbeyHowe]

No problem, Carol! My pleasure

[@Bugsley]

Very helpful Abbey, especially the Mental vs. Motivational distinction. Doug

[@StrongestLibrafluidAlive]

I'm still reading and learning about both of the personality typing systems, but from what I can gather, the central thing that the Mbti is getting at is how you deal with information and decision-making, whereas the Enneagram is getting at what are your basic motivations and fears. I think both of these things are equally important to know. both systems are actually pretty complex if you start reading about them (Mbti with the cognitive functions, loops, grips, etc and Enneagram with the wings, integration and disintegration, stances, etc) and both communities are sadly riddled with stereotypes and misinformation and people who just won't bother to learn more than surface level information about them. - someone who doesn't know either of their types yet

[@baileyelisejasperson8260]

I personally prefer Enneagram, as a type 8 and INTJ. It was a bit more helpful on giving advice to correcting certain behaviors, and I've always felt that Enneagram read you deeper than Myer Briggs. Just a matter of opinion, though.

[@LucianoMarinelli]

As an ISFJ 9w1, I think both systems are great at understanding yourself and one is not better than the other. However, what I don't like about the mbti is the stereotypes and how many people are drifting away from using it as a self-improvement tool, to instead using their type as an excuse for their weaknesses without actually acting to improve on them. Also, many use it to prove to themselves that they are better than others just basing on their and others' types and how their type is better than others. Most of these biased judgments are actually mostly based on the huge amount of stereotypes, and some types have better stereotypes than others. This leads to many not accepting their own type (which is also understandable) and, consciously or unconsciously, trying to behave like another more admired type (see the many mistyped INFJs), creating a false persona which is opposite of what mbti should be, as it is also a way to connect to your true self. Mistypes then hinder your development as you are not working on your actual weaknesses, completely losing the actual purpose of the mbti. I don't see this in the enneagram, so I believe that here it is much easier to accept who you are and work on your weakneasses, as the negative influences that are present in the mbti aren't in the ennagram

[@SethWilson]

Yep. All models are wrong, but some models are useful. No type system will fully capture who you are, but they can be useful for mapping and exploring your own personal territory.

[@silverrain530]

I got ENFP 9w1 which is what I'm pretty sure I am. It is easy to think I'm an INFP sometimes because I'm not SUPER extroverted all the time and I also want alone time to contemplate, relax and process. Normally this is nighttime for me:) Anyways, I guess that means it was accurate for me!

[@Kohay114]

I prefer enneagram because it helps me learn about myself and others. Also, something about 16 personalities is just so overwhelming all at once, whereas enneagram is simple on the surface and then it gets deeper as you go.

[@blakelysmith7636]

ISTJ and 6w5 here. Love your channel!

[@AbbeyHowe]

Thank you very much!

[@andreeadobre3190]

I'm INTJ type 8, they both kind of tell me I'm a jerk? 😅 Anyway, I'm still somewhat new to the enneagram, but have been geeking about mbti for a few years. What was most useful was to learn about the functions and try to identify other people's dominant in order to communicate with them more efficiently, or make more sense of how they work so I can relate to them better. I feel like mbti is more analytical/mathematical and the enneagram is more like storytelling. Different strokes for different folks. But both are super useful for sure!

[@ndjubilant8391]

When we 8s evolve we go from" jerk" to leader. Jerk is sometimes a stage as we learn to harness our power. Mastering healthy vulnerability, our hardest task, helps us transcend jerkdom. Hope this helps baby 8s.

[@radiyhakhatun1041]

Fantastic! I agree with you. Enneagram for the win for me. To be honest I thought you was an ENFJ. But I can see you as an INFJ too. -INTJ Type 1w9/5w6

[@wecallhimchristwist]

I love that by using the DISC, The Enneagram, and the MBIT all together have all showed me the same kind of information. They all say, in their own ways, that I am a logic and analytical thinker who loves solving problems. The fact that this is true from all of these 3 tests makes this thought of who I am a lot stronger.

[@KairaisnotaLiopleurodon]

That intro though 😂😂😂😂 best friggin channel. Abbey you're wonderful and hilarious.

[@AbbeyHowe]

Thank you!! 🤣

[@MsTammy55]

I love both. They have helped me tremendously. I finally understood why I was so misunderstood. Being the rarest MBTI for a female (INTJ) and being the rarest Enneagram type (1(w2)), have made life not the easiest. However, these test have made everything so clear. Grateful 🙌🏾

[@beaufoster7093]

Hey Abbey! This is unrelated, but I'm a type 4 crushing on a type 3. Any advice?? I know you have some experience in that arena.

[@AbbeyHowe]

omggg what a great question! well, I want to make a "tips for dating type 3" video soon... maybe that will help??

[@AbbeyHowe]

use words of affirmation for sure though!

[@xeesimxee]

Most awaited video!

[@tigerfist1126]

Learning MBTI , Enneagram , and Enneagram Tritype all together is more like learning Vedic Astrology . You can go deep into one's personality . If you care about learning MBTI , Enneagram , and Enneagram Tritype only , than these personality types is like learning Western Astrology . You will not go deep into one' personality . You could be missing out if you only studying one type of typology .

[@lebabies]

We talk about this a lot at our house. We have seven family members. Two fit so perfectly in the enneagram and can not find a spot with MBTI. I’ve thought of the Enneagram as a negative starting point to move into truth and health, and the MBTI is more of a diagnosis that helps you accept yourself. We love both.

[@AbbeyHowe]

using both can be so helpful!

[@rinvarga6366]

Love this! I agree, I've been helped by both and I think combining MBTI & Enneagram gives us a fuller picture of who we are as individuals.^^ I might know more about MBTI since that's the first theory I used to help me understand why I had certain weaknesses/strengths unlike those of the people around me, but I've loved learning about the cognitive functions and Enneagram hand-in-hand at the same time since 2019 and it's helped me to better understand my friends and family. I love interviewing my friends of different types and getting to learn more about their personality in their own words, and I love helping them learn about themselves when they're stuck about something in life. I'm even aspiring to become some kind of typology coach in the future to build more of a community in my life and help others discover themselves, too! I'm an INFP/Enneagram 4, though until recently I thought I was an Enneagram 9 like my sister since we're so similar (yet different). Thank you for doing what you do, Abbey! You've helped make my journey into Enneagram such a fun process, and I can't wait to learn more about all the different Enneagram numbers and wings! :)

[@dududuckswan5670]

Actually, there is an extra element in MBTI types. I don't actually think it can be considered as an element but it is called the cognitive functions. For example, you are an INFJ, so you have Ni (iNtroverted Intuition) as your dominant function. Your inferior function is Se (Extroverted Sensing) and the third one is Fi, I thimk. I'm not really sure about the third one, but yeah. I just wanna say that cognitive functions in mbti do exist.

[@nkopanelesedilebona9227]

Good resources for MBTI are websites Personality Hacker and Psychology Junkie and KZbin channels Frank James, AsuraPsych, Casual Cognition's Functions in 8 Positions series and Astrea's Balance. Joyce Meng is also the best for actually seeing examples of each type and how they actually appear.

[@valewrotethis]

That intro was so funny hahah

[@AbbeyHowe]

yay! glad you liked it. it made me laugh

[@maitreyand7876]

Very good comparison of the two methods functioning.. I also totally agree to what u said that both the tools could be used in combination in assessment... Though human mind n nature is very complex n these are but tools to comprehend if not all...!! 😇🌼🙏🙏

[@kowshiksriman2051]

Abbey your videos are so full of life!

[@jeremychadwick5914]

Interesting video. I find that when I test my MBTI type I often get different and inconsistent results as opposed to the Enneagram which has stayed consistent throughout my life.

[@Janay-cy3cu]

I'm an INFP enneagram 9w1 self preservation instinctual type. I think that both systems are very helpful in different ways. MBTI shows me the way my brain works and it's cognitive processes or abilities while the enneagram is my core motivation and fears and how I can relate to others. Both are wats for me to overcome severe trauma and mental illnesses and ways to grow and do good in the 8 dimensions of wellness.

[@pie46733]

As a 4w5 and an INFP, mine agree with each other. So I don't have to choose.

[@coralynnbrown6761]

I'm an INFJ and a type 9. I find a lot of the same characteristics in both. If one said I was BOLD and maybe PUSHY, but the other said I was mild and thoughtful, I would know something was amiss. Do others find that the 2 typologies basically point to the same type of person??

[@kaysiee]

I've been using these personality metrics for self discovery and growth, and I have to say that the ennegream is by far my favourite for this purpose. Another commenter mentioned that the MBTI community will often use their type to excuse bad behaviours, but I've also found that they'll judge people and dismiss them quickly based on their type, which may or may not even be accurate. To me, the MBTI has so far felt like a box people try to fit others into as a shortcut instead of really trying to get to know them. I've only started diving into the enneagram a month ago. All the tests I took scored me as a type 5, but once I started reading into it I realized I was actually a 9w1. So far, it's been so helpful and eye-opening! I'm really glad I took the time to dive deeper, and I'm so excited to learn more about it. On the other hand, after two years of reading about cognitive functions, I still don't know what my type is! 😫 I've gotten 10/16 types when doing tests, and people have such different interpretations of Jung's work that reading about it hasn't helped much either. I suspect my type is one that's unusual for a type 9, and so most descriptions don't really fit... Anyway, it's a work in progress 😅 tldr: I like enneagram better for self-growth, MBTI is giving me an existential crisis, but at least the memes are funny

[@valewrotethis]

So I took these two tests and got ISTP 5w4, as usual. It's always interesting to take these tests :)

[@sparklefulpaladin]

Ah, thanks for this video! I'm pretty sure I'm a 5 on the Enneagram (though it's also possible I'm an 8 who has just been in perpetual stress as long as I can remember, as I relate pretty strongly to both, though I tend to withdraw rather than engage). What I really enjoy about Enneagram is that it helps me figure out potential blind spots or putting words to why certain human interactions have gone the way they do and how to improve for next time.

[@genevieveblais2276]

I love both!!

[@brandongalvin493]

I've now done both tests, and I'm an INFP-T (Mediator) and a Type 9 (Peacemaker).

[@nkopanelesedilebona9227]

In terms of MBTI, you seem heavily like an ENFJ to me. Are you familiar with the cognitive functions?

[@AbbeyHowe]

I am 100% an introvert 😂

[@nkopanelesedilebona9227]

@@AbbeyHowe hmm... Okay! (◕ᴗ◕✿) (Still secretly suspicious lol)

[@nkopanelesedilebona9227]

@@AbbeyHowe if so, then you're pretty good at your KZbin persona 😂

[@AbbeyHowe]

@@nkopanelesedilebona9227 keep in mind that I film alone most of the time! And it’s not easy for me to build up the energy to film. I normally tell myself at least 2 days in advance that I’m filming on a certain day so I can mentally prepare for it.

[@nkopanelesedilebona9227]

@@AbbeyHoweyou sound like me right now 🤔🤣

[@jimvick8397]

I came away from doing both realizing my stregnths were my weaknesses... I'm an INTJ on the Myer's Briggs among the weaknesses listed were Perfectionism and Superiority... And the results of the Enneagram were a 1, 8, 5, 4 Perfectionist...

[@veracuskar3017]

I was typed as Infp, later with cloverleaf as Infj , so I am not ready yet but I' ll be definitely checking on that... I like eneagram as I need to know why, about my motivation. I am 9/8 and there is a lot of truth in it. As I need help to withstand all this life around me, and actually see who I am, based on the studies, nowdays I list through many KZbin channels. I like yours, wish you a wonderful day ☺️🍀

[@aoblues145]

Infp type 9 here. I really like them both and I like seeing or guessing who has which mbti and which enneagram together. Like a INFP type 9, 5 or 4 is like really different personalities and yet it’s super interesting how they are still infp et how their cognitive function works in light of the enneagram

[@elisa4620]

Hello fellow INFJ I find both systems very interesting for understanding myself and other people. Like many in this comment section, and you, I think it is best to use both as they take different but complementary approaches. It's like MBTI explains HOW (cognitive functions) and Enneagram WHY (core motives, desires and fears) you do and think what you do. They are also nice to help create complex, relatable, and somewhat realistic characters for storytellers ;)

[@michaelsmart5941]

With all due respect in MBTI there are subtypes and function loops, including the Jungian way to map out your shadow, ego, subconscious and superego types to your personality... which is delving more into Jungian personality and socionics as well tbh

[@nkopanelesedilebona9227]

Benedict Cumberbatch is an INFJ 3 apparently lol. I definitely agree on his MBTI, just haven't really thought about his enneagram much

[@AbbeyHowe]

I love him!!

[@manuel_winde]

I’m intj-a (5w4) and started off with mbti, quickly becoming pantomime villain intj before realising I was actually regressing as a person. “I can be blunt, rude, reclusive and spend my working day procrastinating lost in though because intj” A psychologist I work alongside advised me to look at enneagram which he felt was more useful/insightful and I initially didn’t like it as it didn’t seem to fit as well as mbti had. Over time I found enneagram useful as a tool for growth but I’ve never had that eureka moment like I did with mbti. The first time I read about INTJ after doing my first three tests (didn’t trust the first two just in case!) I felt like my birth mother had claimed me at the orphanage 😂

[@fernandadealencar1158]

I just prefer the enneagram cause it has less types and I get confused with the Myer Briggs types. Anyway, I'm a 4 and INFP, I'm delicate.

[@ranikster9955]

I got INFP in the test just now, but I also have got strong enneagram 1w9 traits. I don't know. It's all very confusing. Either way I like the journey of self-discovery

[@AbbeyHowe]

It's all about the journey!

[@ranikster9955]

@@AbbeyHowe thank you, Abbey 😊🙈

[@cambearie]

I think you might be a type 4. Type 4s can be misconstrued with type 1. And type 4 is much more common when combined with INFP

[@ranikster9955]

@@cambearie oh wow... Yes I can totally see that 🤗

[@cambearie]

@@ranikster9955 It’s all really interesting once you look into it 😊. Type 4s most resemble type 1s when they are in their growth stage, so that just means you’re a really healthy type 4 if you confused yourself for one

[@bethmonroe7824]

This is a fun comparison! I’m a 9w1 but can’t for the life of me figure out what MBTI type. Every time I take the assessment I have gotten a different type and when reading the descriptions I don’t seem to resonate with any of them. The more I learn about my enneagram number the more I find it uncanny that a typing system knows so much about me, but I haven’t had that experience with the MBTI system. I wonder if getting typed by a professional would help?

[@hunterkarr]

My son typed as INFJ and type 3 also!!!

[@themiddleones11]

Traditional MBTI kinda sucks and don't get me started on 16p which tries to do both mbti and big 5 and fails at both. I'm a firm believer in the objective personality system because it allows for the nuances like the wings and subtypes so in the enneagram. -INFP CS-B(P) MF, 5w4 so(sp)

[@gem2677]

(I'm so sorry to be that person but I couldn't leave it) Mbti does have extra elements, but not everyone knows about them since so many people only learn about mbti through the 16 personalities website (which isn't straight up mbti but not going there). There is mbti function theory, different subtype theories, shadows, and the new work being done on objective typing by the group Objective Personality.

[@radiyhakhatun1041]

Do you still use 16PERSONALITIES?

[@radiyhakhatun1041]

I'm 'The British One' fyi.

[@lmlitz72]

OP needs a lot of work their system is too broad and I see a lot of mistypings with them from people on youtube. They base their own system off of socionics.

[@taylor_mcconnell15]

So is there a way you could do a video showing us which Myers Briggs type most of the enneagram types are on average

[@nkopanelesedilebona9227]

With MBTI and add-ons, the letters are nothing more than a symbol, or a way to identify each type, which is actually made up of a set of four different cognitive functions (there are eight altogether btw). One extension to MBTI is the concept of shadow functions, which is the person's combination of the other four functions. However, to the knowledge I can remember, that's about the only add on. What you said about MBTI is mostly about comparing different types is actually only a surface level to MBTI, especially when focusing on only letters and profiles. What you also said about enneagram going to a deeper level than MBTI isn't true. They are both very capable of going into deeper levels of a person, but accomplish this is in different ways. Again, as you said, MBTI is more about internal cognitive processes, whereas enneagram in some way is more about internal motivations. I believe that though add-ons can be helpful, they aren't necessarily always a benefit. I don't think MBTI really needs add-ons, because the collection and intertwining relationships between cognitive functions are an alternative. I'm really just trying to say that to understand MBTI, you must understand cognitive functions, which is actually what makes up the system, it was actually the very thing Jung created. The letters are only the surface. What's beneath is way more interesting.

[@nkopanelesedilebona9227]

I'm an INFJ 9w1 so/sx btw, haven't gotten into tritypes yet.

[@drewstannard4821]

I don’t really have a preference I’m a 5/intp

[@shaunrussell4558]

I appreciate both systems as well! I’m an INFP-t and a type 9 Enneagram type! I’m still learning about both, but it’s really helped me put some pieces together in my 40’s! I wish I would’ve learned these in my 20’s because I would’ve felt more understood in some ways... but never too late! I really appreciate your videos Abbey👍🧡✨Can you let me know what books you would recommend for the Enneagram?? Thanks!!

[@nanikoreoyaoya7677]

I’m INTP-A and type 8. I’m like veeeery chill most of the time just like INTP. Then switch into type 8 during job. Make sense, cuz type 8 is logic minded and assertive.

[@termitesc.aardwolf3644]

I'm an INTJ type 5.

[@sreebuszeebus1343]

Anyone else an INTJ 8w7? Yeah weird combo

[@jamiehenderson6387]

That’s a fascinating combo. I’m a ENTP 7w8 married to an INTJ 9w1. I thought his combo was different for an INTJ. Our personalities usually mesh very well. So I can see how that would work though.

[@irisout7463]

I am an Enneagram 2 with INFJ on MBTI.

[@Undisputedkingdom24]

Fight Night🥊🥊

[@Stoffendous]

You're an introvert? I'm surprised Abbey!

[@AbbeyHowe]

Big introvert!

[@rebecca6078]

I'm an ENFP and a 9... sometimes I'm really confused about that cause some things are quite the opposite haha. But I can relate to both (well ig it depends on the circumstandes to which type I relate more in a specific moment)

[@czartek4685]

You remind me of Amy Santiago

[@chandlerbing3636]

*THIS*

[@milaalaniva775]

I'm a classic paring with Fe dom ENFJ and E2w3SO. I have my usual Oprah comparison moments is it actually 3w2, but wings are interesting. Fauvre apparently currently thinks Oprah is actually E2. Interesting.

[@milaalaniva775]

But what I find interesting that Ti inferior looks so like E1. I'm not as rigid as E1, but the stress behavior looks very alike. So I go with Enneagram Coach Beth's two wing theory. And FeNi behavior looks so much like E3 morphing to rooms energy. 🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️.

[@leogrrrl5876]

@@milaalaniva775 Funny, I see a lot of Te in 1 & 3, but it may be because I have family members with that combination.

[@chemifan6784]

4:43 You're forgetting about cognitive functions there is a lot more to MBTI like loops and your inferior function theree is aa lot of Potential for personal development .

[@daisyc6764]

I am INFJ or INTJ, depending on the test. this test deemed me ENTJ..... I am definitely not ENTJ. I am married to an ENTJ...definitely not my type.

[@zvbxxmkd]

aint no way almost everyone in comment section is these rare mbti types ,yall mistyped.

[@leogrrrl5876]

Hi Abbey ☺ Have you figured out your tritype yet?

[@jsievers]

Thank you!

[@coralynnbrown6761]

One of my daughters has taken the MBTI several times (for jobs) and comes out right on the border of, let's say, E & I. The other choices, same thing. Like she is perfectly balanced. How often does that happen??

[@LauraLibiete]

I had the same problem. I turned out to be Type 3 (over achiever and performer). Then I went for MBTI couching, we looked at all my cognitive functions and after an interview I was typed as ENFP (tests often were giving results as ESFP, ENTP, ENFJ, ENFP). I think for Type 3 and 9 it can be hard to type themselves, because it’s hard to understand who we really are or who we want or others want us to be. 😔

[@jess1987]

At the end of the day for me; I find my identity in Christ Jesus. I'm an ISFP (not the stereotypical type though). I don't fully understand my enneagram... I feel like I'm an introverted 7?

[@beybrain7896]

Hey Abbey, I heard that you scored as a 3 on the enneagram. Do you know which wing you are?

[@AbbeyHowe]

Yes, I’m a w4

[@BookofYAH777]

I think Enneagram seems pretty useless to me. I know already what I want, and I don't need a test to tell me that. MBTI, however, helps me better understand the different brain architectures that people have and fundamental ways in which their minds work that are pretty deep-rooted and don't change as easily as motivations.

[@Alien-f8z]

I'm the rare ESFP Type 5 that people keep forgetting we exist.

[@1800JimmyG]

Hey I'm jimmy and I'm an expert who is going to tell you which test is best! Jk no I'm not. How do I pronounce "jung"? Thanks and remember to like comment and subscribe!

[@letsjam86]

SLIDES!!!

[@AbbeyHowe]

Hahahhaha

[@alanhowe851]

I see a bit of WWE in this mix.

[@nkopanelesedilebona9227]

Those were boxing stances though 😂.

[@AbbeyHowe]

maybe a bit of both! 😂

[@nkopanelesedilebona9227]

@@AbbeyHowe that reminds me of an idea I had as a kid of a martial arts focused pro wrestling style form of entertainment, instead or wrestling, it's more appealing and flashy martial arts like karate and whatever else. I thought that would be quite entertaining and has loads of potential and would be very lucrative.

[@chandlerbing3636]

😍

[@tacaryibright5822]

Imma ENTP and enneagram 6! And my life is kinda crazy lmao on a different note I’m also a Gemini sun with a Scorpio moon and a Scorpio rising

[@nkopanelesedilebona9227]

A cluster of typology users: Astrology? No, no, no, we don't speak of that here. The outsiders will use it to make us look bad.

[@tacaryibright5822]

@@nkopanelesedilebona9227 ok ? 😂

[@leogrrrl5876]

Fellow Scorpio Moon here! ☺ INFJ Leo 5 with Aquarius Rising.

[@dietalarmclock2607]

Is your personality the cant take 2 seconds to learn how to say jung, and then untold hours on the rest.

[@luciawara-goss3921]

Kinda dumb. You should talk about combining them because that's what everyone is interested in rn. -INFJ/8