'Angel' Cast 20 Year Reunion With David Boreanaz & More | People TV | Entertainment Weekly

[@LPJack02]

RIP Glenn Quinn (May 28, 1970 - December 3, 2002), aged 32 And RIP Andy Hallett (August 4, 1975 - March 29, 2009), aged 33 You both will be remembered as legends.

[@johnappleseed9546]

As champions🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@glenmcl]

So young...

[@dolcevita881]

😢 oww It seemed like a curse 😢😢😢😢

[@marcwarren4393]

❤ those 2! 😢

[@melindanedland2504]

two of my favorites, RIP

[@stormking989]

*Angel was the best spin-off ever.*

[@noneofyourbusiness4616]

Better than Baywatch Nights?!!

[@NEFxDEF]

toss up between this and Xena

[@heathenbreathinfire]

Yep, it was better than the original!

[@richardhagel7481]

Frasier begs to disagree.

[@stormking989]

@@richardhagel7481 *To each his own.*

[@Axel1051]

The gaping Andy Hallett and Glenn Quinn shaped holes break my heart, not to mention their last lines. "Is that it? Am I done?" - Doyle "Good night folks." - Lorne

[@RubyDynamite]

Andy Hallett was such a darling man. I went to a con where the organizers were just shamelessly milking the convention goers as hard as they could, selling more tickets for more signings with the castmember guests. I overheard Andy's manager saying something to him like 'you don't HAVE to stay' and he said "they came all this way to see me and get to speak to me and get my autograph, so I'll stay as long as it takes." I didn't stop him to tell him I'd overheard (because I didn't wanna out myself as a big ol' eavesdropper) when I saw him in the lobby later that day, but I just gave him a big smile as I was on my way out. He was a really nice guy.

[@LFire12]

Loved them both. Man I miss this show and characters still.

[@caitlinbinedell7706]

😭😭😭 I'm still so heartbroken over them

[@catmcquillan7499]

Yeah they both added so much to the series feels like something could have been said.

[@rafaelalfonsoq]

That line kills me every time. Had to stop the video just now when they showed it.

[@BecomeConsciousNow]

It's a shame they didn't mention Lorne. He was a great character in the show. It's really sad that he passed away so soon :(

[@samanthatsuki4086]

Oh man that's why I came here, I hoped they'd mentioned him. Andy Hallett is the the most amazing showman, hilarious soul, I know he's kicking people's asses making them laugh so hard somewhere in afterlife. Anyone who reads this, please look up "Andy Hallett at Slayerfest July 2nd 2005". He tells some stories from his life, sings a little bit in the start, just has a wonderful time it seems forgetting to answer questions and going off on tangential stories. You'll love it. Love to all.

[@yvettemoore1228]

@@samanthatsuki4086 Andy was a legend. The candles that burn twice as bright burn half as long :'(

[@savage_skirt5386]

Odd they wouldn't at least mention him; his character was wonderful

[@Chocobear555]

I agree. They mentioned Glenn Quinn and his role as Doyle, but they couldn't be bothered to fully discuss Andy Hallett and Lorne? That's not right. They should have talked about Andy and his character, too.

[@javierarias_]

They showed a clip of Andy (Lorne) when Alexis (Wes) spoke about the actors who are no longer with them

[@haleyrich7354]

I wished they would have talked about Lorne, he was one of my favorites

[@michaellittlefield4784]

Agreed. Andy was special. Lorne was an amazing character.

[@kevinjonesnet]

They might have. The producers could have cut that part out. It looks like they cut out a lot of the conversation to make this 44 minutes.

[@michaellittlefield4784]

@Barry Allen He's been gone a decade. Sadly I think it was more of a "cut for time" situation...which I've never understood. If I'm going to watch 44 minutes, I'm going to watch an hour.

[@thelegendofthem6120]

@Barry Allen I read that they did talk about him and Doyle, it must've been cut.

[@kevinjonesnet]

@Barry Allen Amy Acker does mention his name once if you go to 26:50 of this video. She refers to 'Andy's episode'.

[@nitab36]

David Boreanaz is one of the most luckiest actors on TV like my man started on Buffy then went straight to Angel for like 5 years right after Angel went to bones for 12 years and now he's on Seal Team which is like on its third or fourth season my dude is getting paid and still looks good!!!

[@yevgeniyaleshchenko849]

Exactly! I was just thinking this, extremely lucky man, made a good career for himself!

[@Angeljc1]

I heard they discovered him walking his dog and that’s how he got into acting.

[@nitab36]

@@Angeljc1 I walk my dog everyday where is my acting gig lmao

[@kevinpham_]

I wish he was playing as BRUCE WAYNE for batman he would be good

[@theunimpressedbeetch]

he was accidentally got discovered too... I believed they already cast another actor for Angel but Joss or a casting director said that actor wasnt working out. One of the neighbors of David saw him walking his dog on regular basis because of that, that neighbor suggested him to the show's producers or whatever. Then he got the role! Thanks to that neighbor who brought this man to us!

[@thefilmexpert1239]

Charisma Carpenter still looks stunning.

[@deanlowdon8381]

TheFilmExpert123 Amy Acker is still pretty easy on the eyes as well!

[@Hardbody217]

Seriously. If Wonder Woman 3 decides to introduce Donna Troy, Charisma's still got it.

[@trevorjosephoneill345]

None of them have changed

[@KAM66300]

She is a beautiful lady but what she was wearing was way too OTT. She already oozes sex appeal without having to wear obvious sex kitten clothes.

[@deanlowdon8381]

Kam I’m not complaining!

[@kirsteenfraser1222]

You can still see the chemistry between them all even after all these years. It's like they never left the set

[@KrisBryant99]

Eh I would say James seemed detached from the cast.......plus it didnt help he was only in one full season

[@brianflynn4]

The show really deserved to go another couple of years. Between the strong writing in that season and the addition of Spike and Illyria, the show had a lot of places to go from there.

[@nicelydone31]

well as they say, leave them wanting more, dont leave them wishing you were over already. sex and the city reboot is a good example of that! :)

[@thomassaxton1197]

It was supposed to

[@drewmega7617]

Bb mm.. Am 🚫 by p

[@joeystein129]

@@nicelydone31 not even close. Sex and the city is🤮🤮🤮

[@nicelydone31]

@@joeystein129 i was not comparing Angel to sex in the city. i was saying Angel knew when to end and sex in the city didn't

[@BeccaBee20]

Angel was everything to me when I was a teenager. I had depression for a number of years and I lost myself in its universe. It was my greatest passion and the best distraction from a life I barely wanted. I'm in the middle of rewatching all of Buffy and Angel for the first time in a decade. When I listened to the Angel theme song I just broke down. So much of my past is wrapped up in this show and I forgot just how much it meant. I'm loving the show all over again and it's incredible to see how far I've come since I loved it last.

[@Nopperabou]

Me too. :) They were beautiful shows.

[@Geion]

So understand how you feel Went through the same thing as a teenager; expect as much as I loved angel it wasn't what gave me solace, It was Ridge Racer Type 4. Whenever I watch the opening movie to that game I get emotional cause its not a stretch to say that its a big part of why I'm still alive. I was a God o those streets a multi time Grand Prix Champion and that helped keep me from killing myself.

[@alaskagamer6351]

You got this. I believe in you

[@jimbobjunior.]

Yeah i just just finished rewatching Buffy and am on season 5 of Angel now. They are still as good now as they were then. Love them.

[@SPIKE-0000]

@Becca Bee Was/Still in that mind-state myself at the time..That universe was an escape..as well as hinting at the darker-powers that walk the corridors of power in reality....

[@DreamsInWild]

Fred's death is still one of the saddest moments in the entire Buffyverse for me. I loved her SO much. Though I did take solace in the fact that Illyria was such a badass xD

[@trevorjosephoneill345]

The body is still the saddest ever and without music was so surreal

[@crystall.411]

fred wesley and buffys mom are the saddest deaths also theres some said ones in the comics

[@trevorjosephoneill345]

I know about the comic's but never read one

[@perfectbluerogue]

let's not forget Tara

[@j2174]

It would have been great if they could co-exist in that body somehow, or perhaps Fred primarily drives with Illyria coming in to help during battles.

[@kharikhy-ree2242]

R.I.P. Andy Hallett. Lorne was a fantastic and inspiring character. He was witty and hilarious.

[@TheDJMysterE]

The episode where Fred dies and becomes Illyria still to this day breaks my heart. The final shot with her leaving home, and the song playing. Still gets me choked up.

[@Whippy99]

I'm the same. Every time she inspects the sarcophagus I shout at my TV "No, don't do it Fred.' Her final scene 'Wesley, why can't I stay?' breaks my heart even to think of it!

[@katerinaquinn5482]

Omg yes that Doyle's death and when Wesley died I cried so fucking much

[@JohnSmith-kf8mv]

Don't recall his actual words but when he asks Illyria to lie to him, and she morphs into Fred. 😫😫😫😫😫😫

[@Whippy99]

@@JohnSmith-kf8mv Oh my life, yes! That's one of the most bitter sweet things I have ever seen. In fact, the whole episode was superb. Thanks for reminding me, John.

[@JohnSmith-kf8mv]

@@Whippy99 ....... (ya welcome) :) - and what about the moment (not sure which ep) where (iirc) Fred is being held captive by his Wesley's Dad, so Wesley immediately kills him, no hesitation, no umming and ahhh, no talking him down, just pewpew in the face. - it's these little moments in tv shows which make me willing to watch a WHOLE season of preceding eps, just for this "awesomely prefectly written and deserved payoff".

[@callumburns9378]

*everyones favourite vampire with a soul* Spike: am i a joke to you

[@mihaa94sky]

You know the funny thing, I can actually imagine Spike saying something like that.

[@gilliganwilliams1993]

@@jj62024 one was cursed with a soul, the other had to fight for his.

[@jimbob8543]

@@gilliganwilliams1993 yeah to get into buffy pants

[@robinlillian9471]

James Hodgson: That started BEFORE he got a soul.

[@smusse091]

Spike is my favorite vampire too

[@FatDane_]

Watching this, I was like “where’s Lorne? Where’s the green guy?” And I found out he died, ten years ago 😕 Rest in piece you wonderful green demon! 🙏🏻

[@rexracer3221]

Andy Hallett was only 33. He died of heart failure.... So sad that he passed so young.

[@honestgoat]

Awwwww. Really. I loved that guy. That is tragic.

[@bartarias5815]

Yeah so did the quinn dude. He died too and they didnt speak much about him either

[@dannyjmorgs]

"Krevlorneswath".... of the Deathwok Clan

[@aslan9334]

Oh i didn't' know that :(

[@JenLight]

"What are we gonna do with Wesley?" "We could give him the best character arc in history."

[@evergreen61]

Exactly!

[@onesun3609]

It's a toss up between him and cordelia imo

[@evergreen61]

@@onesun3609 If smaller characters were on the table? Definitely Faith. I wanted her to become a main character, but maybe that's what made her awesome. They packed a lot in those few episodes.

[@mousegirl100]

The most tragic character in either show. Rejected by 2 slayers. Rejected by the Scoobies. Rejected by the Watchers Council. Rejected by his father. Loses his crew. Doesn’t get the girl and when he finally does, she dies. Then loses his life. Loved those moments when we got to glimpse the original Wesley like in “Spin the Bottle.” An English accent so perfect, my English friend was completely fooled. A beautifully developed character!

[@Hedge_witch]

@@onesun3609 I never liked Willow, but she does have a good arc too. But agreed, the best was easily Wesley.

[@daisymurf4727]

Wesley, to this day, is still one of my favorite characters ever - with the best character development ever

[@emmarie2930]

Greatest overall story arc of any character I have ever seen.

[@whedsley]

Glad to see people with objectively great taste.

[@lamiswardinator6696]

He was my fav too😭

[@lynbaker7780]

That’s why I don’t want a movie or miniseries. Wesley’s death was one of the best endings of a character ever and bringing him back somehow would dishonor it.

[@jaredputnam3495]

@@emmarie2930 Wesley was kind of like Carol on The Walking Dead. The meekest possible character ... who ends up becoming the biggest badass. It was great.

[@jaygibbs_]

I love how Amy Acker just smiles so beautifully while listening attentively to the others speaking. She's a treasure!

[@wolfchacer0139]

Cordelia really kept Angel mostly Honest I thought, and Charisma was perfect as that character in both shows. I still think she's a hugely underrated actress and one of the most Beautiful.

[@keelahrose]

And the way Joss treated her was honestly horrible. He was so lucky to have made all his shows before social media became what it is now, or he'd never have had the chance to direct any Avengers movies or become the multi-millionaire he is now. He'd've been cancelled way back when Buffy was on the air, and none of his other shows would have been made. It's very telling that he did not show up for this reunion. I bet anything that multiple cast members said they wouldn't go if he was involved. They all know the truth about how he treated actresses on his sets. His wife exposed him, Charisma exposed him, Michelle exposed him. And where is he now? He hasn't made a single public appearance or even released a statement since all this became public. No defense, and no apology. It wouldn't surprise me a bit if his career is completely over at this point!

[@DaddySatoruGojo]

I agree

[@Jongen.]

She was good in Buffy and the first seasons in Angel, but in seasons 4 something changed for some reason. I think her acting was a little worse. Could have been the writing or montage, but the scenes where she is in the sky and being purple looked so cringe.

[@darnellmajor9016]

@@keelahrose How do YOU know he was the cause of all of this drama when he's BARELY said a word about it? PLUS considering how smooth Angel ran from year 1-3 with the Cordelia arc, it's makes you wonder if CHARISMA is the one gaslighting us with feminine energy considering she didnt do much or anything notable after Angel while Whedon continued to find notable work with projects like the Avengers and Cabin In the Woods.

[@keelahrose]

@@darnellmajor9016 "gaslighting us with feminine energy"?????? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 You revealed yourself as a fool and a clown with those words alone. No point in even addressing you. It amazes me that people like you are able to function in society at all, I'd've thought you all drank draino by mistaking it for milk and gotten rid of yourselves a long time ago, but no, here you are, leaving braindead comments and wasting everyone else's time. Of course Joss kept getting work. Same reason Bill Cosby and Weinstein kept getting it. No one cared about toxic men in Hollywood until they were forced to!

[@Laudon1228]

I’m so glad they paid tribute to Glen Quinn, but where was the tribute to Andy Hallet?

[@MissVasques]

Perhaps too heartbreaking given they spent more seasons together.

[@skylerlals]

Awe I loved him

[@youwillovercome]

Gunn: Okay, you take the thirty thousand on the left... Illyria: You're fading. You'll last ten minutes at best. Gunn: Then let's make it memorable. Spike: And in terms of a plan? Angel: We fight. Spike: Bit more specific? Angel: Well, personally... I kinda wanna slay the dragon. Angel: Let's go to work.

[@cindysage9110]

Yesssssss omg now I want to watch the whole damn thing again 😁

[@austintrousdale2397]

In a perfect world, we'd have then heard: "Angel? Angel, can you hear me? On your left!" - Buffy

[@cindysage9110]

@@austintrousdale2397 yeah that would have been pretty amazing

[@Steg_The_Man]

Read After the Fall 😉

[@liontamer8961]

Austin Trousdale this comment is pure gold😂😂

[@LDread24]

Omg I melted when he called him "Quinny" they really were very good friends though from just the short amount of time they spent on set together. I just wish both He and Andy could have been here to see how big the show has gotten, how epic it really has been to pop culture and what a lasting impact it has had RIP Glenn Quinn and Andy Hallett. Without you, it wouldn't have been the same.

[@ADDButterfly]

I teared up when he said that.

[@yvonnereid1656]

Yeah that was very beautiful. Quinny ❤

[@LPJack02]

Glenn was 32 and Andy was 33 when they died.

[@marcial.1636]

Well you know what that means. Time to binge watch Angel (again) this weekend.

[@aprz1164]

Marcia L. Same!

[@chazIII7III]

Can’t wait.

[@razieluchiha7580]

Dat fooking ending tho.

[@charlesmcgehee3227]

Hi binge watcher. There are about 10-12 really great shows I binge on once every year or 2. Angel is one of them. I love the ending. "I don't know about you but I wanna slay the Dragon". Great line.

[@caitlinbinedell7706]

Just rewatched Buffy and Angel a couple months ago. Gotta do it every couple years. ❤️

[@redreaper2752]

Unlike most shows, their last season was the best. Spike and Angel together was magic.

[@brucebradley9O21O]

i like all season but my favorite season is season 5 thats when he was a god tier boss. 😂

[@darnellmajor9016]

Season 3 was my favorite but I get what you're saying at the same time. It's kind of hard to rank any Angel since they were all great in their own way.

[@marktaylor6491]

Cavemen or Astronauts?

[@adampowell711]

Smile time!! Lmao 🤣

[@sarahdelima954]

The season was good. The finale was crap

[@ForsythJC]

"You're Welcome" is actually my favorite episode of the whole series. The writing was spectacular, the acting was amazing, and I love how they rounded out Cordelia's character. That last scene where she disappears makes me bawl my eyes out every time. It was (in my opinion) the most beautiful "death scene" I've ever watched.

[@sanityisrelative]

That scene when Angel walks in on Cordi watching Doyle's commercial breaks my heart.

[@charlesmcgehee3227]

I agree. Why We Fight was another really great one.

[@sara76561]

And to think that stupid Joss Whedon wanted to bring Buffy in for that episode instead of Cordy. Buffy was not even relevant to the show and didn’t know any of the other characters besides Spike and Wes.

[@Brook11223]

Sad that Glenn Quinn and Andy Hallett are not part of this panel. #RIP. Alexis Denisof's transformation from being the bumbly Watcher to a cool Steve McQueen type character was just awesome.

[@whedsley]

His performance should be talked about much more. It really is one the best tv performances of all time.

[@SweatpantsPG]

Where is Pete Campbell?

[@paulknight9998]

It was more of a "socially awkward school professor" to "nerdy sociopath" type of transformation.

[@ThomasBanksDrBoon]

Hate to break it to you, but Glenn died not long after he finished up on the show :(

[@cynthialivingston4849]

Andy Hallett also passed away. I'm pretty sure that's what he meant, how sad it is they're no longer with us.

[@archer1949]

Cordelia Chase had one of the greatest character arcs in TV history.

[@keelahrose]

Meh, minus that whole sleeping with Connor/pregnancy thing. I'd say the same thing about Wesley.

[@caseytatum5837]

@@keelahrose yea they fucked up with cordelia but wesley went from pretending to be a bamf to an actual bamf in the span of seasons

[@lessismore8533]

Yes. Spike did too

[@Raison_d-etre]

@@lessismore8533 You mean how he tried to rape the slayer? Yeah, only people like Whedon would be impressed by that.

[@Raison_d-etre]

Not really. Whedon wrote Charisma off the show. It was a horrible way to treat the actress.

[@Homelandz]

I miss the Angel/Buffy universe. And I'm still starstruck everytime I see Charisma. Please gods and demons of the entertainment world, bring this guys back to our lifes if only for a handful of episodes.

[@honestgoat]

James Masters you are a true legend mate. You played one of THE greatest characters in television history. William the Bloody aka Spike. And WOW, Amy Acker is even more gorgeous today. I didnt think it was possible.

[@victorpradha9946]

Somehow Acker managed to NOT age much at all, considering that she was 19 when she was cast as Winfred.

[@keelahrose]

She looks fantastic. They all do!

[@Selene965]

@@victorpradha9946 Amy was 23 or 24 when she was cast as Fred

[@victorpradha9946]

@@Selene965 My bad, her birthdate is listed as 12-5-76, and Season 2, episode 21 (Through the Looking Glass, in which Fred was introduced) has an air date of May 15, 2001. So that would indeed make her considerably older than 19.

[@biocapsule7311]

His work after is wonderful as well. You should check out the Dresden Files audiobooks, he is the narrator for all but 1.

[@stressbean1707]

Amy Acker hasn't aged still as beautiful as ever. Freds death really hit me the hardest and saddest death in buffy/angel verse

[@LFire12]

A Hole in the World is possibly the first bit of TV I ever wept over. It is an utterly gut wrenching episode (especially following the brilliant, upbeat Smile Time), even on re-watches and brilliantly done by Amy and Alexis in particular. Fred's ending was devastating. And then came Illyria. Amy Acker is really so good.

[@lazyhomebody1356]

Hands down the most beautiful episode/hour of tv ever. Augh! that stuffed bunny

[@theunimpressedbeetch]

yeah me too, on buffy's Tara's death hit me the hardest!

[@ryanzolkiewicz4121]

Stressbean yes Amy still looks good for her age.

[@grizzlynad]

& Wesley's death scene was a tear jerker too

[@CoolsBreeze]

Amy Acker is still adorable as ever.

[@jimmycampbell78]

The dress she's wearing for this interview is so sexy.

[@cazkiwinz4300]

They’ve all aged pretty darn well!

[@boobieperry1761]

I still remember SCREAMING at my TV the night of the series finale. This can’t be how it ends!!!!!!! I actually sat in my living room waiting for a surprise episode because up till then, I’ve never seen a series end on such a cliffhanger before. Top 5 series for me of all time. Thank you for such an amazing series!!!!!!

[@danielaarroba6356]

You must be read the comics

[@tkcovington6752]

The Wesley character had to be the best complete character ever. He started out kind of awkward and dorky then he turned into a complete bad ass after his throat was cut.

[@danielpilling2153]

Hes always been my top favorite character arc. And most unknown/underappreciated.

[@davidroberts1702]

As far as I'm concerned it was the Wesley Show. His character arc was long, wide, and deep. His death was a mistake, in my opinion, he was more intelligent, insightful than the others; the whole thing pivoted on his character. He also had one of the most intriguing relationships on TV; not just the one with Lilah (in itself worth the price of the boxed set) but also Illyria, who was actually a male demon, who fell in love with Wesley, lol.

[@clinteastwood8230]

@@davidroberts1702 does she for long he comes bk in the comic

[@JoJo-gd4dt]

Yes!

[@aleji0]

He, Spike and Cordelia had three of the most complete, incredible arcs in any medium I can think of. "character development" doesn't even come close to describing it.

[@Tokerz0]

I love Cordy, and her development. I still hate what they did to her character. The last season was not the same without her. Her absence was just heavily felt through the entirety of it. Also Charisma always did fantastic at doing the vision pain. I liked that both David and Alexis said it was cool.

[@whedsley]

Those three actors were the show. Season 5 was like Angel for dummies.

[@Tokerz0]

Pablo81 LOL Yes Angel, Cordy, and Wes were my favorite trio. I actually prefer the early seasons because of them, before the group expands. I love that Cordy only had scenes with Angel, and Wes in her last episode as a call back to simpler times. But yeah season 5 just looked like a bad reinvention to a once good show. I find it hard to believe the only reason they got canceled was because Joss asked for a early renewal.

[@whedsley]

@@Tokerz0 I´m still so angry that some people overpraise Spike´s role in this show and his ¨chemistry¨ and relationship with Angel are so basic in comparison to what the trio went through. I also never bought Angel´s friendship with either Fred or Gunn.

[@Tokerz0]

Pablo81 Completely agree. I mean I like Spike and all, but to bring him in just to replace Cordy was just a waste of his character. They literally did nothing with him. Also ruined his big sacrifice in Buffy. I liked Fred, she was sweet. But really underdeveloped and was practically someone’s love interest the entirety of her arc. I never liked Gunn. He just brought way to much testosterone to the team, and just really complained half the time, also tried to hard to be Alpha. Angel, Cordy, and Wes all had history together which made them click so well. I cherish season 1 and half of 2 because their dynamic is just so amazing. Once the group expands they just had less and less scenes together, as the trio that started it all.

[@ronniejdio9411]

The last season of angel was the best season of tv ever filmed. He guest spot was wonderful and her dying brought us to tears

[@BOBFATHER1986]

There’s been some good tv shows out the last few years, but none of them touch my heart the way that Buffy or Angel did. Truly great storytelling and written to perfection.

[@HopelessHermit]

I think the only time Angel smiled *legitimately*, and not as Angelus, was when he brought the ton of food and Cordy said she loved him ☺️

[@angelfuturejob]

That’s usually how it goes

[@binkyfaith]

Yep…. We all knew Angel loved Cordelia😒

[@HopelessHermit]

@@binkyfaith well that probably hurts his feelings alot. I'm not gay like Ann Rice VPs but im not Angelus or Spike either also lol

[@paveyshreds705]

"Quickly, to the Angelmobile away!" Still my favorite line from the show

[@celebro469]

I'm just a big fluffy puppy!

[@sanityisrelative]

@@celebro469 and prancing away like a magnificent poof is truly thanks enough.

[@DarkEmpress86]

Loved that episode, one of my favorites from the entire series! "No, not the hair, never the hair!" 😂

[@SuperheroComicsTakeover]

Charisma Carpenter is STILL stunning.... actually MORE than ever!!!

[@yevgeniyaleshchenko849]

Yep, she totally is!

[@angelndisguys]

James Marsters(Spike) is 56 years old!! OMG!!!

[@s.m6605]

What????😲

[@MicukoFelton]

whahh, how can he look so hot??

[@bossytweed6664]

micuko vicious Ew lol, now he was definitely my celeb crush back then but he is far from “hot”, anymore. So dissappointing😞

[@sarahfmommy81]

He was my favorite character (Spike) from the Buffy/Angel series. I just rewatched Buffy series with my daughter now rewatching Angel on season 2.

[@MicukoFelton]

@@bossytweed6664 are you blind he's definitely hot

[@thee_morpheus]

J. August Richards is a REAL vampire, but they all look great and have BARELY aged. Such an underrated show, one of my faves!

[@shawneecherrypie4331]

They all still look so young and healthy looking. The cast of Buffy and Angel will always be my favourite cast ever.

[@odinson99m]

Astronauts vs. Cavemen is one of the single greatest moments in the History of Television.

[@meld0507]

odinson99m that is still one of my favourite moments ever!

[@UTU49]

"The cavemen always win."

[@rakathin]

@@UTU49 What if the astronauts had weapons?

[@kamui003]

That argument still makes me laugh.

[@zenithquasar9623]

Fred's death was soo heartbreaking but my god Illyria transformation is one of the best things on TV!

[@pdcoy53]

One of my favorite shows ever. I think my favorite episode is the "Muppet Angel", because it was so funny and Spike gets to laugh at Angel, and Angel gets to laugh at himself. Wonderful comic relief to all the darkness of the typical episodes.

[@gaillynn1280]

🤣🤣🤣🤣 Wee little puppet man!!

[@iluvlafferty]

My favorite thing about this is seeing Charisma and David back together. Amazing chemistry, always! Missing Andy Hallett and Glenn Quinn, both gone too soon. :(

[@LanakilaMiller]

iluvlafferty Thank you for remembering my families loss of Glenn.

[@binkyfaith]

Absolutely

[@TheFWAdmin]

Really saddened and disappointed that they didn't mention Andy Hallett (Lorne)

[@banglebabe1]

actually they probably did mention Andy Hallett. Sometimes things get edited out that the stars have no control over.

[@TheFWAdmin]

@@banglebabe1 True but they had time to mention Glenn Quinn who was only in 12 episodes but exclude somebody who was in 76

[@banglebabe1]

I think your disappointment should fall on the editors shoulders, not the actors.

[@Lukiel666]

Yes. Numfar! Do the dance of sadness!

[@jinakaye]

@@TheFWAdmin: To be fair, Glenn Quinn was also an original cast member.

[@LarissaFay]

***I LOVE EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS*** It was always more than a series. Angel stood for something.

[@RubyDynamite]

Honestly, Angel was always my favorite of the two series, even if ATS was a spin-off - BTVS always had this black-and-white worldview that was basically shown to be very convenient propaganda for the Watchers (ie. vampires aren't your friend, they're the thing that killed your friend and is now wearing your friend as a suit, essentially - even though we saw with *several* vampires that that wasn't at all the case, including Harmony, Spike and Angel himself). ATS, on the other hand, did have a much darker feel, but it *always* felt truer to real life than BTVS did because of that, because they dared to establish very human emotions and motivations amidst some crazy supernatural bullshit and managed to have most of it make sense and was a blast to watch! It's challenging to have *one* character go through a really gut-wrenching crisis of conscience in a series, but ATS has *dozens* of storylines like that, all going at once throughout the seasons. Damn, I have to go re-watch the whole thing now!

[@davesmith5482]

I love the way even now, all these years later, James Marsters will occasionally just lapse in to Spike's accent. He always has a little hint of it in his voice.

[@sarahmichelle473]

He dresses like him too!

[@anumpreto]

Doyle's tape at the end of "Hero" is so damn heartbreaking.

[@gilliganwilliams1993]

Don't bring that up, I'm gonna cry again.

[@alfonsogalvan9979]

Even more so when Cordy played it when she snapped out of her coma that one day.

[@spiritussublime]

tears every damn time!!!

[@crayoff]

It was awful the actor died the same day it aired!

[@cathygalloway4104]

Aerson Moreira y

[@aslan9334]

I feel like David Boreanaz no matter what group of people he works on other shows Buffy / Angel will always have a special place in his heart!

[@tigersjunkyard]

Buffy was entertaining but Angel was a genuinely fantastic, quality series with amazing characters and development. I'm so sorry that they didn't get one more season to finish the story properly, but it's still one of the best and one of my all-time favorites. So much love for this series.

[@Tanya07709]

There would be no Angel without Buffy, so kindly take your backhanded compliment up your arse hunny bear.

[@yevgeniyaleshchenko849]

@@Tanya07709 Lmao, good one!

[@toomanylies7716]

@tigergames I agree. I'm sure it's probably because they didn't have someone like Xander on the show to be honest. His bullshit brought down my love for the collective group. Otherwise, i'd say they're on equal footing.

[@jimbobjunior.]

@@toomanylies7716 year i have to say i liked Xander but sometimes I'd find it hard to listen to yet another joke at a time when absolutely nobody would ever make a joke. They could've toned that back just a little. But that was literally the only thing i could think of that i wasn't crazy about. Loved Buffy! And Angel!

[@jacquesjames6226]

David and Charisma still have a LOT of chemistry!!

[@binkyfaith]

🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿

[@serenity4eva89]

Angel

[@masters1313]

including Harmony.

[@blatherskype25]

Your brother Numfar did the dance of joy for three moons. Numfar do the dance of joy!

[@doro626]

Didn't Joss Whedon play Numfar?

[@blatherskype25]

@@doro626 Yep and it was hilarious

[@TheJulior1983]

This made me laugh so hard. thank you

[@MichaelHolmgaard]

I've always admired and respected David Boreanaz a lot. He is just a genuinely cool and honest guy. And of course he is a next level actor on top of that

[@kimberlylatham8443]

I was a big Buffy the Vampire Slayer fan, and then Angel came out and I was hooked. The biggest surprise was that I personally know J Augustus Richards, who played Charles Gunn, as we attended the same high school that was a Visual and Performing Arts high school. Let me just say, he is a wonderful person in real life, very humble, always smiling, and still just a great guy all around just as he was in high school. It warms my heart to see that he succeeded and showed his amazing acting ability on such an amazing show! My Sister and I also got to meet James Marsters who played Spike, he too was such a sweetheart in person, also very humble and he was so funny to talk to with his jokes.

[@donmorton4597]

A great show that deserved more time on the air.

[@90salternativerock18]

Amy Acker and J. August Richards look EXACTLY the same! I think they don't age at all!

[@olhydra]

seriously! hot damn! Charisma Carpenter is a forever babe as well

[@Spike-tz6tt]

@@olhydra Yes,Like They just got pulled out of Filming an episode

[@en6278]

hm no he doesnt at all he looks 20 years older. like his own father.

[@paulgoldston282]

I watched Buffy and angel because I was going to college at night go my degree in computer science and now I am retired and raising my great great grandson and great grandson in which they are adolescent and they’re watching the show , I was vented the part of Buffy’s mother passing I can relate because my mother passed the week after and it gave me solace, at a young age that your parents were here and they done their job of getting you through growing up, now the rest is now you are on your own , but believe me I got through it thanks to joss Sheldon. , I appreciate him putting that story line in , in which made me a better father and grandfather, and great great grandfather to raise the great grand teenagers I have today one is a biochemist for Johnson and Johnson in Pennsylvania the boy is a marine biologist in sea world Florida , thanksever so much and can’t wait for the reboot Paul goldston

[@Laura329]

Wow 20 years! 😱 Loved this show. RIP Glenn Quinn and Andy Hallett. Gone but never forgotten 😔

[@elroysworldFR]

Every time I watch Doyle's last scene.. Angel and Cordelia watching it on video.. i'm like.. an emotional wreck.. such a well written episode.. and a good way to send off Doyle. To know he was this fun loving soft guy but also the person willing to sacrifice everything for his own redemption and to let Angel keep fighting.. bruh!!!

[@mordavi]

"The good fight, yeah?"

[@elroysworldFR]

@@mordavi you never know until you been tested. I get that now!

[@nicelydone31]

Also especially touching since the actor died in real life not long after

[@keelahrose]

It's just a shame Glen Quinn couldn't kick that heroin addiction and stick around. It would have been great having him on the show for the complete run, to see how he changed.

[@preciouswilliams22]

OMG, ANGEL.... How much I miss the 90s and early 2000s💖💖💖 Charisma Carpenter & David Boreanaz haven't aged a bit😘

[@canya2308]

Doyle till this day is one of my favourite characters. RIP Glenn Quinn.

[@mlady6564]

I can't believe they didn't talk about Lorne or the actor who played Lorne.

[@GattiOK]

I agree, he was one of my favourite characters and a great singer, amazing soul and prescence!

[@emblem9242]

Andy Hallet passed away😥

[@thelordofsalem3044]

Or Doyle, but I could understand if it hurt them to talk about them.

[@joec7217]

@@thelordofsalem3044 Especially David. He was close friends with him

[@JacobOlli]

Is there a video where David or some of the other castmates walks about Andy and how great he was in the show?

[@johncrichton5767]

Amy Acker: "Ready for season six!" Me: DONT **** WITH ME LIKE THAT.

[@SrChalice]

@SALOMON LEA that would be epic as fuck

[@urilaf8598]

SALOMON LEA Sam and Dean would be fucked

[@gillianwilson1330]

Angel not coming back Lorne dead so no reunion because cordelia and wesley were killed off it so no angel season 6

[@dansketch]

Ain't gonna happen they basically all die at the end of season five, guns seriously injured, wesley dies, cordelia dead they're basically all fucked, shame joss whedon helped cancel the show

[@ajrochester9364]

dansketch if you read the comics dude all of them didn’t die. Google Angel - After the fall. There’s a mad story after season 5 they couldn’t do a season 6 as David went on to do bones too. The story continued legit so much happened real fans know the story didn’t stop there as the story continued in comics. I still need to purchase all the comic sequels!!

[@Primo0897]

I can’t be the only one that rewatches “Angel”

[@angelthomas1003]

Your not :)

[@jaquee1]

1 season ep 4 i am now

[@carlosalegria4776]

You are definitely not. The gang hanging out at the Hyperion is so comfy. Also RIP Glen Quinn and Andy Hallet

[@pepepepert]

I've got the series and buffy at home.

[@peterparker9214]

I just started rewatching this show this week. Only thing that sucks is I had to re up my Hulu membership to get it back lol

[@NDBit]

I didn't know it was exactly what I needed, but hearing David Boreanaz say that the lord has a plan for all creatures, even a _devil child_ like you', in a terrible Irish accent might be everything I have ever needed

[@luvallnothate7013]

I said it on Buffy Reunion video and I'll say it here. i would totally watch both Buffy & Angel if the casts came back in 2022 to make another season or few. great actors, great chars, great storylines. Angel is in my top 2 spinoffs of a main show, Angel and Stargate Atlantis.

[@TheColorOfCaramel]

The BEST moments in 'Angel': The riff between Angel & Wesley, after Wesley took Angel's son, was some *good* acting... When Angel tricked his team into thinking he had gone 'bad' so he can keep an eye on Darla... Darla sacrificing herself to give birth to her son... Watching Cordelia & Wesley 'grow' into different & stronger people... Watching Cordelia say goodbye to Angel for the last time.... Seeing Winifred say goodbye to 'her boys' as she died, then resurrect as Illyria [she played that role!] ...and there are other moments but I can't remember.

[@VolatileSupernova]

"I'm a rogue demon hunter now" "Whats a rogue demon?" still chuckle at that line

[@pnklady3788]

It's a 'rogue' demon hunter.. not a 'rogue demon' hunter Meaning it is the demon hunter who is rogue not the demon. Faith was always a bit of a rogue in general..

[@fryke]

@@pnklady3788 There was no need to explain the joke.

[@Adeus555]

Carpentar looks pretty good for pushing 50. Better than most 30 year olds for sure.

[@JachAnen]

@@Mercurystars4202 Oh she definitely doesn't look younger, but she doesn't look much older and I doubt she had any work done, as it's not visible. It has got to be the makeup, her age kind of shows at the neck.

[@yevgeniyaleshchenko849]

@@Mercurystars4202 Oh someone here is jealous? Jealousy adds wrinkles, honey and makes you UGLY...

[@Donegal62]

Charisma is still hot..so is Amy!!

[@aesinam]

@@Mercurystars4202 how do you "through" water on someone's face? Learn proper English and stop being nasty in the comments.

[@jandelain]

Still fine..

[@wesmindo5729]

Im just 8 episodes in to the show and im already so in love with the character Doyle. I can't believe he had to leave the show cuz I can see that the trio had so much potential together. I'm heartbroken. RIP Glenn Quinn. 😢

[@kendallrivers1119]

He's great but wait till you get to the trio of Angel, Cordy and Wesley. Now that's the heart and soul of that show. The three of them were family. Though Glenn Quinn was really cool R. I. P.

[@rosey13136666]

My favorite scene is in the very last episode when Wes is dying and he asks Allyria to lie to him.

[@lazyhomebody1356]

She offered to lie to him so he could be with Fred one more time and he said no

[@lazyhomebody1356]

@The Mark of Kain Right! He kept saying no, but at the last he said yes. I can't believe I forgot that, it was such a great scene! Sorry

[@usedfuzzbox]

After watching every single episode of Angel, following Buffy, the the very last episode when Wes is dying and he asks Allyria to lie to him, that ruined me, not ashamed to say I sobbed uncontrollably.....

[@rosey13136666]

I found it on KZbin! Look up Angel-Death of Wesley

[@SaunterVaguelyDown]

Not to be THAT person (months later) but it's actually Illyria.

[@jdtv05]

I love this Buffy and Angel were such big parts of my childhood. I always love these EW reunions.

[@anikarice7609]

When Buffy guest starred was one of my favorite episodes! It was heart breaking.

[@volb9817]

There is no word for that episode. I understand the Spike Buffy fans but it just doesn't compare to what Bangel had. Their love is a forever love.

[@iamlily01]

Vol B I so agreed!! I absolutely hated her with spike!! I was so mad they put her with him, smh Her and Angel-way better love story!!

[@iamlily01]

Leonix 13x I’m sure he cared for her, but not like he was in love with Buffy!! That love was ever lasting! I mean they took him off of Buffy for the spin off so they had to give him someone and vice versa!! However, Cordelia could never replace Buffy and that’s probably why she didn’t end up with Angel. Regardless of her pregnancy in real life, if they wanted that to happen then it would have. Buffy didn’t end up with Spike either. She ended up with no one!

[@dougfarish4348]

I just want to rewind time and relive the Buffy/Angel era. Best days of my life (not only because of the show...) and the best TV show ever made.

[@WoWmeister69]

I was lucky enough to watch this show while it was still on the air. There isn't a day that goes by where I don't miss it. I won't ever forget you Angel.

[@TheWhocaresusername]

It's on Hulu. Every episode

[@raindropsneverfall]

I hated Cordelia in Buffy, but I actually liked her in Angel. I remember her becoming likeable.

[@carriecruzpadilla9429]

Same

[@zoeaargh]

She was meant to be hated. She's the character trope of saying 'no that's stupid' that TV felt was needed in the 90s.

[@FMFvideos]

all I remember is that she was so hot

[@JazGalaxy]

I loved her by Season 3. Charisma Carpenter is just SUCH a good actress.

[@PlayaP69]

I enjoyed the meaner Cordelia. She was too nice and redeeming in Angel. ☺️

[@RijackiTorment]

I really wish they would have mentioned Lorne and talked about how he is gone from us too soon, too young, such loss of potential. I loved his character. He and Cordelia were my favs.

[@notoriouslybratty]

Watching Charisma Carpenter says she was bittersweet about Spike coming in to replace her (33:15) is painful after all the recent revelations about how she was let go. 😢

[@JohnSmith-kf8mv]

Still waiting for Joss's response.

[@Belzedar]

That's why I watched this. I was looking for some sign, one way or the other, for the history she spoke of. So, Whedon wasn't there and maybe that's why she agreed to be but that's just speculation. But looking at this, she seems subdued, tense and uncomfortable. And I got a sense that there was some coolness from the others, they seemed to be dissing her,

[@mightybitchy]

Nobody really knows what happened. All I see is Amy Ackerman having a great career after Angel ended. And not Charisma Carpenter. Bitter about it? Attention seeker, maybe?

[@Davidscomix]

@@mightybitchy people on set knew what happened

[@mightybitchy]

@@Davidscomix Half of the people in the internet. And tabloids too apparently…

[@denniscattell]

This is BRILLIANT!! Thank you Entertainment Weekly for putting this together, for reuniting the Fang Gang like you did with the Scoobies, and reminding us all that they were the show, they loved the show when they were making it and they still love it now in 2019! Maybe one day we'll find out what happened next, but until then, this will make us real happy! Hurrah for the Buffyverse!

[@6Jillybeans]

I thought James's accent was maybe 80% accurate as a Brit which was pretty good but Alexis was in a different league! It was 100% and I was so shocked to find out that he was not an British actor. I don't think I've heard another TV actor do a better one yet.

[@CATTYNESS1]

Yeah I'm a brit too an he totally got me!

[@sanityisrelative]

My pet theory (as a non-Brit) is that Spike's accent is close but not 100% accurate because it started as an affectation he put on after he was turned to make himself sound tougher and then after time it just became how he spoke. Though that depends I guess on how good James's attempt at a posher accent in those Buffy season 7 flashbacks was. Idk🤷

[@HoneyPyo]

He did live in England for a year at one point. He said that helped a lot,

True every once in a while Spike would say "poofter" and it didnt sound right but still funny but Alexis nailed it...very rare for a yank(male esp) to be able to pull off the british accent

[@FuzzyDlop]

The difference is Spike was like 200 years old and his accent got lost by roaming from one country to the other and back. Wesley was human so his accent had to be as perfect as possible.

[@BeardedKingface]

Loved this show so much. Got into Buffy when it came out, I was 8-9 years old. Angel started up and I was converted right then and there; the darkness of that show matched what I was looking for and resonated with me as a guy. Still miss it to this day and wish it didn't end only after 5 seasons. Glad everyone looks great this many years later. They look healthy. RIP to Doyle and Lorne :(

[@Rufus1531]

Re watching Angel at the moment. Such a good series. Just wish it hadn't ended as it did. RIP my two favourite characters Glenn Quinn and Andy Hallet.

[@LPJack02]

Glenn was 32 and Andy was 33 when they died.

[@klarinausach9344]

I can't believe it's been 20 years! David Boreanaz was my first celebrity crush and the man does not age.

[@jessbyrnes4637]

Klarina Usach I agree

[@A_Blessed_Diamond]

David Boreanaz is literally one of the only people in the world my mom would kiss. That is saying A LOT!

[@bretsheeley4034]

*sees them in the interview* Man, they look great after the 5 years since the show went- *checks the calendar* Wait, what?

[@cordeliachase601]

Bret Sheeley Lmao

[@Chris-hx6tr]

Wesley was one of my biggest fictional character crushes when I was a teenager. I was never into the whole Spike vs. Angel debate because my answer was always Wesley. I loved him both as the adorable doofus he was in his first appearances and as the brooding character he later turned into. And damn, Alexis Denisof still looks super hot.

[@whedsley]

I'm glad that many people appreciate Wesley as one of the the greatest characters of the whedonverse. I also couldn't care less about the Angel vs Spike storyline which was incredibly simplistic and never evolved.

[@LacyLuvsGodiva]

For me it was all about Lindsey. Sigh. He was so pretty.

[@annbrown9273]

Yes, he is quite dashing 😉

[@rustusandroid]

Wesley was my favorite character. He really grew from a geeky bumbling nerd into a badass in the last 2 seasons.

[@TheeOnlyDjinn]

I think to this day on any show i've watched Wesleys development as a character from comic relief to someone who's more gritty and experienced i think has never been matched. His growth or change from his experiences in the show over 5 seasons is something people are not willing to do nowadays.

[@kendallrivers1119]

Same with Cordelia tbh. Despite how it ended her growth from Buffy to the first 3 seasons of Angel was extraordinary.

[@rushofblood994]

Alexis Denisof‘s real accent will always sound fake to me

[@Nerd704]

Right!? My brain tells me he's a British person putting on a fake american accent.

[@shpgrl1026]

James is the same for me. I always want him to have the British accent.

[@britfofana4060]

I had read that he did live and study in London for years. That's probably why is English accent was so good!

[@willemgroenewegen5934]

@@britfofana4060 Do you mean Alex or James? Cause there's an interview with James that he found it really hard to say the British swear word 'bollocks' properly :)

[@britfofana4060]

@@willemgroenewegen5934 I mean Alexis :) Watching Buffy, I swore that he was English, years later I found out he's where I'm from; Maryland!

[@DriftingDCal]

This is still one of my top shows! I remember calling and complaining to The WB when the prematurely canceled the show. I still to this day didn't get enough of Illyria!!

[@jasonmatthews806]

I laughed so hard when she wanted to keep Spike as a pet.

[@missbabycakes133]

I vividly remember crying and feeling heart broke for the first time ever in my life when Buffy Finale played. I sobbed. This is the only show that ever hit so hard and I think it's because it was so damn good and I happened to be going through my highschool/ college years. Such an amazing cast

[@hijinx1979]

RIP to Glenn Quinn and Andy Hallett

[@paulflood9826]

God I miss this show.....and Buffy.....Jesus they were my formative years!

[@GlobalJeremy]

14:35 is the most jaw dropping moment of Angel Ever, love this scene the emotion and acting David did there was crazy

[@christinanavarre8389]

I am 63 I watched Every Buffy and Every Angel produced. I loved the fantasy of it all. The love story....the loss...friendships coming out from those that were enemies. Great reminiscing. Thanks

[@monicadacosta5545]

If they ever did decide to make a movie or a reboot. I am so watching! I absolutely loved this show. I am currently binge watching Buffy and Angel. Brings me back to a time in my life were there was so much going on. And what helped me get through it was watching these shows. TFS

[@ruzil1973]

I just love the opening and end theme by Darling Violetta

[@j.j4435]

Yes to an Angel movie please and thanks 👀

[@mavoc3094]

How would that even work? The vampires are not suppose to age and the actors appear quite a bit older.

[@lynbaker7780]

Mavoc I agree. Angel was / is one of my all time favorite shows but David was looking significantly older by the end of the show let alone now. Plus, Wesley is dead. I know they get around those kinds of things but Wesley’s death was perfect. It would dishonor his character to bring him back and Angel without him isn’t Angel.

[@gilliganwilliams1993]

@@lynbaker7780 they could always do flash backs, or have one of the characters seeing his ghost

[@2Good2BeTrue45]

I want an Angel movie, high budget videogame or a new spinoff series based on Gunn

[@lynbaker7780]

2Good2BeTrue45 I respect your opinion but I have to disagree. Doyle was a very weak character. Perhaps it was because of the real life situation that was going on but the character had no development possibilities. I felt he was the weak link. I have to also disagree with the value of Wesley’s development to the series. Angel ( and Buffy) are strong characters but their story arc is written into the premise. “ The vampire with a soul” and “into every generation a slayer is born....” It is the secondary characters that made them great. Did you notice how Kate wasn’t even acknowledged in the interview. That was because she brought nothing to the show except to make it a run of the mill procedural. Wesley’s character was vitality important to the uniqueness of Angel. Cordy should have been but the writers ruined her. What would Buffy be without Willow, Xander, and Giles? Those developed nuanced characters made the shows cult classics. But that’s just my opinion. 😎

[@mikeflannery7905]

They have all aged amazingly! New season please!!!

[@MsMaggyW]

How have Alexis and Amy not aged whatsoever? They don't even look like they had any work done! They just look naturally youthful.

[@englishatheart]

Plastic surgery never makes anyone look younger. It just makes them look fake. Because it is fake.

[@MsMaggyW]

@@englishatheart When it's well done, a small amount of it does make people look younger. It's just rarely well done and people get addicted, get too much of it and then look like aliens. But like I said, they seem to have just naturally not aged at all in the last 20 years.

[@gavinjames695]

Makeup. Lots and lots of makeup. (I'm being sarcastic, actually)

[@nathanielstacy4488]

justeverything , that's the Trick the story was real but the had someone else play spike. Mwhaaa.

[@iamihop1123]

Some people just don't visually age quickly. I'm 31 and people frequently assume that I'm in high school. I recently saw two photos of me, taken a decade apart, and I look almost identical. It's probably largely genetics, but I help out by avoiding the sun/using sunscreen, not drinking or smoking, exercising regularly, and eating a healthy diet. It's actually problematic - I get no assumptions of professional competence. I have to overcome the assumption that I'm a kid whenever I meet someone. I'm starting a farm, and that's a hard crowd for a baby-face to hang with.