Robin vs Ruan Mei : Who Offers Better Investment Value in Honkai Star Rail

[@Eflaene]

I've had a very comfortable time with slotting Ruan Mei in Blade teams, for general farming, Pure Fiction Himeko/Herta, Simulated Univers, ... so I don't see myself pulling for Robin but I might get her on her rerun

[@leekyonion]

Having both is going to be godsend. Will probably set me up for success across the board as different team types can be built off of both of them. This will give me the trifecta harmony of Ruan Mei, Sparkle and Robin

[@D_enDAionNoEien]

It's not about competition of each limited unit matter, it's about upcoming content getting much harder, enemy became more tankier and knowing hoyo-gimmicky battle requiring specific limited unit to clear it with ease actually does matter

[@jerryeljeremy7790]

SPOILER: They buffed enemies HP again for Pure Fiction 2.3 so be ready because people will gonna need as many buffs as they can

[@MrAlexjmercer]

Really wish they make comp game mode rewarding title/icon for hardcore players instead of keep creating purgatory for those who rely on MoC/Pure Fiction jades to keep up like this

[@tausifturja]

People are clearing content with 4 stars so at the end of the day, it's all FOMO. Pull for the team comps you're building. FUA - Robin, otherwise Ruan Mei.

[@Qopa]

I've been complaining about this for months but the trend of honkai devs, even in hi3, powercreeping every rerun units back to back in each update, this is going to hurt f2p and small spenders ($200 or less a month) when the majority of the problem with this game is not just the FOMO being twice faster than GI one new 5* per update (typically very underpowered new 5* in GI so rerun = better in GI than newer banners) but the relic + planar farming requiring too much RNG that you're bound to not get a unit to full build before the next 1-5 new 5* arrives. I still don't understand why the likes of units in v1.0-v1.4 aren't in the standard banner yet. And even if you do get them, if you don't have ruan mei as your harmony, they typically aren't usable for current moc lol. HSR devs don't know how to balance the game. They sell units via fomo and powercreep. It's very fked when you look at each new banner costing $360 + $360 per update for the guarantee pity.

[@jerryeljeremy7790]

@@Qopa It's not so bad except for hunt units like Seele, but then again it's not because of how bad her kit, but more likely because she is a DPS unit and a single target which still has no fitting endgame mode like Destruction or Erudition. Also all of your complaint always comes down to DPS units which not only in HSR, but GENSHIN as well happened a lot. And even tho genshin's Fomo isn't that big, it's still gacha games, they sell their character with fomo, no matter what gacha game it is. Also I think HSR know what they doing considering they already buffed Erudition character using new endgame mode, while we still haven't heard any improvement for Geo characters in genshin

[@naufalsyauqifillah6388]

Fua better with robin but that team is a fooking wallet breaker then any team comp 😂

[@AssassinKillswitch]

At least Dr ratio was free

[@aidanarmaggeddon]

DOT is also a wallet breaker, Kafka, Black Swan, RM, Huohuo

[@simonditomasso9868]

Imo that’s a good thing that they made the premium fua team a thing, cuz if you don’t care about it you can save a crap ton of jades, and if you care about it you get an amazing single target exodia team with lots of longevity

[@sanguin3]

​​@@aidanarmaggeddonyou can still substitute RM with Asta in a DoT comp. For FuA, there's sadly no alternative to Robin, Aventurine and Topaz.

[@D_enDAionNoEien]

as hoyo intended it to be 🗿😏🐋

[@angular.deficit]

Considering we already have a weakness immunity mechanic it seems like hoyo could easily screw over ruan mei by just adding more enemies with it.

[@Hreimdal]

They are not doing that to screw over Ruan Mei, its just gameplay mechanics. They use it as a mechanic where you're required to do something specific (like killing adds) to remove the immunity. But Ruan Mei will still help your team overall vs those ads so i don't really see this as an anti Ruan Mei thing.

[@Lynus_08]

Either way she still buffs overall dmg so she would still be good

[@NateC_02]

I'm so glad he uploaded this because I was really debating this choice

[@ellosteve]

SAMEE

[@rinoakirova1548]

I honestly think Ruan Mei is harder to powercreep because she does so many things all at once. The way to powercreep Ruan Mei is to release dedicated supports for all those niches, which can definitely take some time. For Robin is just the opposite; when they release another 100% Action Forward that's not as inherently tied to Follow-Up as Robin, then people will use that new character since doing 90% at everything is a lot more comfortable than doing 100% in just one thing.

[@JohnDoe-si4eg]

They’ve already started doing that. Robin is literally the first example. If you do hypercarry sparkle is more important. FuA Robin. DoT is next on the list (take a few nihility blessings and roll them into one character and RM has no place on the team). She can be a good second harmony, but that’s only if they don’t release good limited debuffers (wolf is the only one). RM is always gonna have a place in the break team, but they were never gonna let her be the undisputed queen for too long.

[@AcE-xj6yl]

Its very unlikely for them to release another 100% team wide advance, EOD already explained it since its going to be mechanically difficult to do so. Like how sparkle during beta had 100% advance before it got nerfed to 50% since you literally can have an infinite cycle between her and bronya.

[@Hannvibal]

@@JohnDoe-si4egrm wins easily in Su and in dmg robin is better only in her ult , ruan mei gives break efficiency and dmg boost keep in mind no character in game have break efficiency and in Su there is only one blessings and its nihility robin give 50 % dmg boos runa give more than 50 because of her passive and skill ult robin advances all allies which makes her op and a respectful amount of atk ruan give increases characters type element so my opinion robin win in moc and pure due to her ult only rm win easily in Su due to her kit that make her technique depend on the amount of blessings and believe me she is the best character in su

[@ThatHamiltonCat]

Interestingly, I don’t think dedicated supports dethrone RM. The thing is, with new players/tournaments, you often have a limited number of characters to choose from. RM might not be the BiS for many teams in the future, but she will be the second best for *every* team, which gives her utterly enormous pull value. For casual play with older accounts where you have all the BiS supports (maybe you’re a whale, Idk) she might not see a ton of use outside her niche in the break team, but that just puts her roughly equal with other BiS supports. Now, maybe she will be powercreeped sometime in the future. Even with all her versatility and strength, it’s potentially possible a support could outperform her just by sheer numbers. It might be likely, even. But as it is, she’s got a very comfortable position in the meta.

[@willyboi1105]

They're already releasing dedicated supports. Hypercarry: Sparkle FUA: Robin We don't know what team will get a dedicated support next but for now, Ruan Mei is BiS in Dual Harmony (might change due to Robin), DoT and Break teams.

[@Lun1z]

If you low on jades and want both I would pull ruan mei first and wait for robin rerun because you never know when ruan mei comes back for her second rerun, might be a long time.

[@aidanarmaggeddon]

Ruan Mei will get her rerun much sooner than Robin though. So why not pull now? They really bring the same value.

[@D_enDAionNoEien]

💯

[@amanneelgund1703]

But ruan mei is going to come in either 2.3 or 2.4

[@Lun1z]

@@aidanarmaggeddon Exactly, it's a rerun banner for Ruan Mei which means after her rerun she will be gone for a long time. Robin how ever will have her rerun soon after her first banner so if you're low on jades and want both characters it's better to save your jades for now and guarantee yourself Ruan Mei and then go for Robin's rerun. Same goes for Topaz, if you don't have Topaz but want Topaz, Love Topaz, need Topaz, I would prioritize getting Topaz first because she will be gone for a long time along with her light cone. How ever you might run into a risk of having Robin rerun with another unskippable character so be wary. Also if you're fua team enjoyer, Jade is coming 2.3 so plan your moves wisely. 👻For me personally I try to take the following route: Topaz > Jade > Ruan mei > Robin in this order but who knows if I get lucky with Topaz I might break and try going for Robin right away. 🤭💸

[@natan380]

@@Lun1z This "the first rerun will be sooner" discourse doesn't really work in Star Rail, look how long Fu Xuan is taking to rerun

[@minerska3395]

I have ruan mei and sparkle, i dont think i need her but i want her because of her character😂

[@naw613]

I’m in the same boat 🤪🤣

[@zagan8213]

valid

[@tenten8472]

Yep i dont need her proceed to hard pity

[@minerska3395]

@@tenten8472 relatable

[@IdeasAreBulletproof]

I am in the same boat. I feel sufficent with my Harmony but Robin is very pretty!

[@Miku-Izayoi]

Ruan Mei being powercrept in the FuA aspect was something I already expected a while back. The thing is RM is so good because she can be slotted in any teams and do well but she doesn't necessarily have a specialty as a result, a jack of all trades. So Robin powercreeping RM for FuA teams while being a sidegrade/downgrade compared to RM in other teams is a nice way of balancing things out. So a safe pick would be = Ruan Mei Specialist (FuA Teams) = Robin

[@itsbdot]

FUA= ??? I’m slow pls

[@Raydar8090]

@@itsbdot FUA = Follow Up Attack

[@Schoefflermel]

@@itsbdotfollow up attacks

[@moltrescompany]

@@itsbdot Follow up attackers like Dr Ratio or Topaz

[@Chris-qh5tz]

Ruan Mei is better outside of FUA teams but the difference is so small I actually feel like overall Robin might be a better option if she is cracked on FUA teams and is a sidegrade/very small downgrade from Ruan Mei. On non-FUA teams though I feel like you need Huo Huo for her energy boosting ultimate for Robin to be as good as Ruan Mei.

[@jiayuankoh493]

I am thinking of picking ruan mei when she reruns as I like her design better. But like u said if her return is delayed then I am screwed. Haha. Waiting to see more leaks to plan ahead.

[@nchtblut]

X2 Ruan Mei is too universal, I'll get Sam and then save for Ruan Mei

[@jiayuankoh493]

@@nchtblut I am thinking if Sam is having the countdown kind of ultimate maybe robin is the better buffer. Let's see.

[@frzack_.]

Same here

[@achmadekasatria9741]

Not to mention, if in the future there are characters that don't scale off of ATK, RM will have the edge over Robin. Non-ATK scalers will nullify >50% of her buffing capability whereas RM will not have a problem since she's a fully damage bonus buffer.

[@wryguy3701]

I'm unsure which of them I like better for follow-up team. The 10 speed Ruan Mei gives to the whole team is 5 rolls worth of stats to each of the other characters in the team, which allows them to reach 135 speed without using SPD boots. I also have to use the speed set on each character just to be able to reach 125+10 speed and maintain good crit stats. The debuff from Ruan Mei's ultimate also helps Ratio. Maybe Robin will technically be slightly better for follow-up team than Ruan Mei but I don't think it's enough to be worth replacing her. A big problem with using Robin in follow-up team is you have 1 less debuff so you basically have to get E1S1 Topaz for Ratio to reach 100% chance to follow-up consistently.

[@kuriboharmy]

I mean outside of Topaz Ratio at the moment all the other follow up characters don't use the advance forward that well. Jing yuan LL won't move any faster, himeko and xueyi want break, qq e4 want skill points, and herta does her thing at half health. I feel Robin has a higher ceiling but a lower floor compared to Ruan Mei and Robin is a feast or famine in hyper carry comps due to her not generating many skill points she either clears fast or hits a wall. I think in super invested and people with top quality relics Robin will no doubt out perform Ruan Mei but in an average environment Ruan Mei might be better.

[@-Theo-]

Robin will be perfect for my Ratio/Aventurine Team, debuffs won’t be a problem cause I’ll use Pela instead of Topaz since I can’t afford to get her lol Also Robin compensates for spd boots with her massive atk buff

[@victorraymond3420]

E1 Robin also gives speed, just sayin

[@generalalatusfallingin]

Ruan Mei feels very satisfying to play. Skill point positive and offers a lot of break effect and damage boost in her kit. Ruan Mei works exceptionally well in all types of content and in every team I have built with dot and hypercarry teams being my favorite. I built her with Dance Dance Dance, as I do not own a LC that offers break effect as a competitive option. I use the 4pc watchmaker set because it is better than my hackerspace set. As a supportive set I usually go 2 pc broken keel. I recommend Ruan Mei to anyone wanting a strong and versatile Harmony character.

[@hazardsigns]

I have, love and use Ruan Mei (also Sparkle, Fu Xuan and Adventurine). I'm all good for supports for now. What I'm missing is dps fire and especially physical coverage. Hopefully distruction or edrudition units. I consistently miss Himeko and Clara whenever I lose my 50/50. I hate the creepy knight man, but I'll pull him if I must 😑

[@Yassine-bft09]

Firefly is a destruction fire dps pull for her

[@aidanarmaggeddon]

Easy Boothill and Firefly pick

[@midnightdarling7503]

I’m skipping Robin, I was bummed I missed Ruan Mei the first time and she’s better for my comps since I don’t do follow up teams etc

[@aidanarmaggeddon]

Robin works well anywhere on the same tier if not better than Ruan Mei in certain comps.

[@egotisto]

Just because you don't want to run FUA doesn't necessarily mean that Robin will be bad apart from it.

[@apachers2807]

@@aidanarmaggeddon Ruan Mei is slightly better than Robin for non-FUA teams in general. The difference is very marginal though but since OP said they don't run FUA terms, Ruan Mei is the better option + looking at the 2 upcoming DPS units, as well as the HTB Synergy and w/ Hoyo pushing break effect.

[@ranggaadi5179]

My strategy in the game is just to get all the buffer and debuffer available because they will offer more utility than a dps could and also they have more longevity

[@vani3081]

Thanks for the video, i couldn't chose which one to pull, but ruan mei definitely will help my account more

[@Kenfusi0n]

This is the perfect video I skipped Ruan Meis banner and I regretted it ever since but I was also conflicted because robin

[@GuyWithAnAmazingHat]

PVP will never be in HSR, we complained about it too much back in HI3rd that they excluded it from all subsequent games. Because of ranked pvp content in almost every aspect of HI3rd, there's insane powercreep and characters literally aren't functioning properly if you don't pull their weapons and stigma, imagine having to pull 5* weapons like Genshin and 5* light cones in HSR, HI3rd has both at the same time which if you don't pull you might as well don't play the 5* character.

[@naufalsyauqifillah6388]

Hi3 now really suck especially for the newcomer

[@silla42]

@Krugmatik Yeah, when I was testing Acheron out by using the ones from my friends list, I was really disappointed to see how difficult it was to find one that didn't have eidolons or her light cone. And they usually had both. It also seems like the new MoC12 is already taking that into consideration, if the massive drop in my clear time is anything to go by...

[@victorraymond3420]

​@Krugmatik That's so dramatic lmao. Yes, she's the top dps and she's only going to get better. But "ruined the game"? You're vastly overestimating the gap now.

[@D_enDAionNoEien]

@@victorraymond3420 you'd be surprised from hoyo history in powercreeping older unit... especially what happen in Hi3rd is an exact truth But we didn't know how do would manage HSR differ ig that's fair(welp knowing hoyo wanting people to spend,yep it not looking great for older unit imho 🗿)

[@victorraymond3420]

@@D_enDAionNoEien I'll say this. Genshin is the closest comparison. Zenlesss will be a closer comparison for Honkai 3rd impact. With Genshin there is power creep, but it's slower and you can still fully clear abyss 12 with old characters.

[@arunawalker]

I already have Ruan Mei, and she honestly works fine in my FUA team, so the current plan is to skip Robin, Boothill and Firefly to safe for Jade and expand my IPC collection. Maybe I'll get Robin on a rerun if they haven't released a better FUA buffer at that point, but honestly maybe not even then. This game is rather easy and I don't really care much about my MOC and Pure Fiction clears. As long as I can comfortably clear with Ruan Mei I don't really see a reason to replace her with the new best thing on the block. They are all gonna get powercrept sooner or later, so it just makes sense to skip a few powercreep stages to preserve ressources. Building a new character every patch is tedious anyway.

[@Noerusakuragiofficial]

Honestly I just got aventurine and he’s amazing but I want robin for MoC and Pure Fiction. I only play the end game content because I’m always in desperate need of jades😂

[@shottydd]

Would love to have Robin. But need Fu Xuan more. The nr 1 sustainer in the game! Need to clear MoC12. And next patch = firefly! Even Jade looks good. And not possible to have all these.

[@nikolasimic4047]

Honestly, Aventurine is no 1 sustain in the game. Fu Xuan is still top tier but Aventurine has an edge. Swarm and G&G V is so much easier with Aventurine compared to Fu Xuan. I phase her out from my teams and I'm running Luocha T1 and Aventurine T2

[@Shay_D_Mann]

@@nikolasimic4047 You can sustain with most sustainers in SU with the right blessings, even in Conundrum level 12 (look up ways to get most of the blessings in the game in one run). FX is the stronger sustainer in MoC (in terms of pure sustain) because it's nearly impossible to have a unit die under FX's skill. Snipes are still possible even under Aventurine's shields. Also, Aventurine requires skill refreshes to top up units who get sniped, unnecessarily using up skill points.

[@nikolasimic4047]

@@Shay_D_Mann He is extremely skill point efficient. When you get your follow up attack you get portion of your shields back. And for Fu Xuan... I never really liked her, it is just that her kit was OP. And for SU, sure I can choose carefully blessings and stuff... Or I can just run Aventurine and pick whatever I want. I cleared Conundrum Lvl 12 with ease just picking random Erudation and Preservation blessings while with Fu Xuan I had to choose what I need

[@Shay_D_Mann]

@@nikolasimic4047 Aventurine is not necessarily SP positive. In the current MoC 12, the blue Dino can easily snipe a character on its first turn and tear through the opening shield given to them by Aventurine. He’d have to refresh this first shield immediately using a SP. Subsequent attacks from the Ice monster along with its summons can bust through the new shields created by Aventurine again, requiring him to use another SP. And pal, if you’re playing GnG having to choose blessings instead of knowing how to easily get all the blessings in one run, then that’s a skill issue on your part.

[@The_CodFish69]

@@Shay_D_Mann sounds like a build prb friend I accidentally went in MoC 12 with the Wrong Lc with my Mr. Vibes it was only lvl 50 and had 0 Def% and I still managed to get through it Ya it was close at the end but still I was missing out on like 40% ish of my potential max shields and this was with a non full build character aswell.

[@kleankant202]

i'm not sure if i can get robin since sparkle drained most of my reserves. in any case, my first impression is that the 2 of them will be slight upgrades or sidegrades over each other depending on your team. i'd rather have RM + sparkle on team 1 and then robin on team 2, assuming that robin is a good replacement for ruan mei. RM + sparkle is such a strong combo that it makes 0-1 cycling with no sustain so much much easier. they synergize so well together in boosting virtually any carry. it's side 2 that would be problematic without a sparkle/ruan mei tier support on my account. if robin is as good as the other 2, then that would be a really good way to fix things.

[@justashzz]

This community got what it deserved Complained so much that the game is "too easy" and now powercreeping is superneeded to take MOC comfortably Well done!

[@Fierth]

Lol idk what you are talking about. Still see people doing full clears with 4*. Yeah, it's harder, but you still don't need to whale and can full clear without all the premium 5*.

[@sunnypa7101]

Look at their eidolons and their investment. It's abnormal ​@Fierth

[@Phantom-r9q]

Who to choose, EASY! In my main Ruan mei-DoT and others Sparkle-Hypercarey In my alt Building FUA team Robin-FUA team Both my accounts have Acheron In my main(E0S1)and in my ult(E0S0).

[@KakavashaForever]

Lost Ruan Mei 50/50, dunno what I'm gonna do yet but I think I'm gonna skip and just work on building up my pull hoard again. I blew everything on Acheron and Aventurine, literally zero pulls left as of today, and still intend to spend each pull I get on Aventurine banner until its gone in hopes of lucking into his E2 lol.

[@omegaex2255]

name checks out

[@ao2415]

ruan mei is no longer that needed anyway cuz harmony mc kinda do exactly as her

[@MG-hs1yb]

Me too and they’re my only 5 stars. I don’t have anymore content left to explore for jades n have no pulls. Dailies n events are my only source left. I need fu xuan at least but I prolly won’t get her so my acc will be useless until her next rerun

[@Nobody-ll7bo]

​@@ao2415harmony mc is actually better than ruan mei, wait till hmc comes out

[@ao2415]

@@TokitoRen5633 nah I hv RM s1 e1 and from the leak the mc do exactly the same as her, maybe better because of her low energy cost for ult, but you can choose to cope for RM 😂😂

[@harshpandya7834]

Have rm getting robin (wanted topaz e1s1 but I have 52 wishes 💀 so will get her on 2nd rerun and also a bronya/jingliu/robin/sustain team would hit hard) cuz then I could rm on break/dot (for break I think xeuyi/Luka is an ok/cope replacement for boothill, meanwhile my dot comp is alr built w/ all premium characters) Tldr: robin is just another Ruan mei (in terms of value obvio cause they both have better niches they perform in), so having 2 Ruan mei's is awesome Hopefully we all win the 50/50 Bois

[@EmiWi]

I have sparkle and bronya as my only harmony units and i'm stuck between balancing them out between all of my teams, thinking that rm would be good to get for my kafka bs team alone, even if i don't use her elsewhere, but i really don't know since i just started building my team properly and investing into different characters that weren't phys mc 💀

[@harshpandya7834]

Phy mc 💀💀💀 But ye rm is universal, you alr have 2 action value manpulators , so robin is an increase but you don't 'need' especially if you are building dot comps@@EmiWi

[@LeoMPA]

Honestly after what they are bringing with Robin. For those with Ruan Mei i would skip just cause the next harmony will probably powercreep both. So if you dont need a harmony now just get a better dmg dealer or sustainer and wait for the next one.

[@senioralexander0]

Dmg dealers get powercrept much faster than harmony characters tho

[@elixer88]

While I mostly run a FollowUp Attack team, I've got Ruan Mei and Sparkle already built up, and I just recently got a Bronya. I also just got Aventurine so my account is lacking jades for pulling. As great as Robin probably is for FUA teams, I think I'll be holding on for Jade (and hope I don't get bamboozled by Erudition yet again). I guess I'll look into it again near the end of the banner; if she changes from "is really good with FUA" to "is absolutely CRACKED with FUA", maybe I'll roll for her. If I didn't have Ruan Mei though, I would 100% roll for Robin.

[@goodgrindne]

I want robin, but mommy jade gonna be angry will try 30 pulls, may she come home soon for coping reason,havnt build ratio yet

[@LXnobia]

already got ruan mei i just don’t see pulling for robin is justified since the bump she brings is negligible in my team build. also i don’t get why people so horny about 0 cycle anything, you have 10 cycle to 3 star moc and you don’t get any special reward do it in 0 cycle, so why bother?

[@LeftyPencil]

Robin as she reminds me of my favorite game, Transistor.

[@_stealth_313]

I have a follow up centric account, and my main team I’ve been using is Ratio/Topaz/Ruan Mei/Aventurine. I’d love to pull Robin, but I feel I don’t have the need for her since I have E1 Ruan Mei, and I need to save my jades for Jade in 2.3

[@aidanarmaggeddon]

I think that's very fair E0S0 Robin will most likely not be an upgrade to an E1 RM.

[@sawyerseth9832]

cutting sushi with a pocket knife should be considered a war crime . . . . . thanks for the video eod :)

[@gladysdatita2736]

I'm ruanmeiless and I have no problem clearing moc in 5-8 cycles, but my pf score is only at 60-65k so I was thinking about getting her, but when robin is released she is so cute and fun and postive that made me gave in 😭

[@aaronmorgan5860]

I may have to skip all the banners for 2.2. Running low on Stellar Jade. My FTP account has more than enough support characters. I'm in a position were I need more attackers. Quality of life drastically improved in my account the moment I got both Acheron and Adveturine. Acheron monopolized both Credit and experience materials while also becoming a main attacker. Adveturine helped to sustain my teams while also helping to clear the hardest content in Simulated Universe.

[@martin.0827]

And then for the second team, what would you choose between break team or FUA team?

[@aaronmorgan5860]

@@martin.0827 Break team is going to be tricky to create because of all the break eff sub stats you need. I do have Ruan Mei, but can't make it work right now. I'm working on a break team, but it's a lot of relic grinding. Dr Ratio, Himeko, and Herta are easier to build for a follow up team. Follow up teams are great for Pure Fiction.

[@martin.0827]

⁠@@aaronmorgan5860 but you don’t need to built crit on break team so the difficulty in farming relics is the same as other crit dps team i guess?

[@kidsIIIII009]

I’m not really gonna be rolling for Robin even if I have Aventurine, Ratio and Topaz. I use SW to help maximize Ratio’s FUA

[@rishiranger7049]

I just want a double buffer for my Dual DPS Jingliu and Blade, so i think ill pull for Robin. Gimme that CRIT DMG boi

[@ryoushi_no_kaze2190]

Ruan Mei is better for Jingliu+Blade. Robin only has 20% Crit Dmg for non Follow up Attack + Jingliu and Blade don't care for ATK buffs. Ruan Mei gives 18 more dmg% and 25% res pen which Jingliu and Blade prefer. Pull for who you want tho ofc!!

[@rishiranger7049]

@@ryoushi_no_kaze2190 thnx for the advice. Counter point: RISE UP TO MY WOOORLD

[@thornszk]

I just want to add, Robin also gives 50% damage for all allies(not just the 20%cdmg for fuas) and her ult doing 1 instance of her own damage) per ally attack. The ult's added damage is respectable imo. Ruan synergizes with upcoming Harmony MC which has superbreak buff. Both FuA teams and break teams are on the rise so choose your poison.

[@Kamuii777]

I don’t have Ruan Mei and I pulled Robin and I’m very glad I did, thanks for the informative video.

[@SwipeGameplay]

I got sparkle, ruan mei, and aventurine :) aventurine has dramatically moved my progress :) i will pull for robin to have 2 teams who can move charactwrs forward :)

[@poppingtoads6466]

Maybe I might just wait for Ruan mei then 😓 I have bronya and sparkle for blade and robin might not provide much boost to my account. I can use ruan mei for blade and I think RM is usable for herta & himeko in PF

[@giosenpaiz]

If you’re planning for pulling for boothill I would say wait for ruin mei rerun she’s gonna be insane with him since he focuses on break damage

[@MisturTentacles]

I don’t have ruan mei but I’m going for both of them. Hopefully I have enough to go for jade as well. If not then it’s swiping time 😂

[@Adrian_23]

I will pull and get a copy of her and be happy even tho i have Fu Xuan, Ruan Mei and Sparkle. Her design is amazing and love her skills lol

[@kimmandu2230]

Got Acheron with her LC, Aventurine and even got a free Jingliu. Not counting on my luck for robin but whatever pass I get while she's around will defo go to her haha

[@RomnilWater]

Overall I think Ruan Mei is the safer and more Universal between the two but also the less specialized. You can use the entirety of Ruan Mei's kit with everyone and it help a lot and unless you're running a Follow Up team you're not going to use everything Robin offers. That's not to say Robin only works with Follow Up teams. Her buffs are really good it just that she's clearly built to work with Follow Up characters. Both are great characters that are going to help most teams. It's more kit efficiency with your account when you're comparing the two. All that said I'm one of the people that has Ruan Mei and Sparkle and I'm going for the trifecta and pulling for Robin as well. Robin with my Ratio and Jing Yuan, Sparkle with DHIL and QQ, and Ruan Mei for my Duel DPS or DoT teams (or as a flex spot on any team).

[@JohnDoe-si4eg]

Imo hoyo has basically shown that in the nearish future (probably a yr at max) being a generalist harmony won’t matter. Team niches are starting to be filled out. Sparkle on hyper, Robin on FuA, RM on break, it’s inevitable that the next limited harmony will be for DoT.

[@midnight.blue42]

I think Sparkle is better for Jing Yuan than Robin

[@RomnilWater]

@JohnDoe-si4eg Oh, I completely agree. Specialization is going to be the best in the long run. The thing is that not everyone can afford to pull for every specialization. So what's the options for a F2P or low spender? You can focus in on one or two specializations with the characters you pull. But the problem there is if the game decides to focus on a game style you haven't built you're going to have a bad time (early Penacony was very much geared towards DoT for instance). So the game incentivizes that you at least dip your toes into all the different playstyles (Hypercarry, DoT, FU, and probably Break) to help you get through the game without you banging your head against the wall. It also gives incentive for the non whale players to build 4-stars to fill out playstyles. So for a low spender or F2P Ruan Mei might be a better option. A character that is strong and might be the second best in team comps but will work with whichever team archetypes you've built is going to be more cost effective.

[@RomnilWater]

@midnight.blue42 I can see it go ether way. When I get Robin I'll try both and see which I like more.

[@JohnDoe-si4eg]

@@RomnilWater In those instances I think the old adage of collecting all the harmonies may be the best advice for the f2ps. At least for now.

[@jeological5394]

Imma take both, considering i started in the middle of acheron banner

[@kenshinhimura9619]

Man us normies here debating whether to get her and whales debating whether to E6S5 her and get a spare Robin LC S5 incase they might use it on Harmony TB or something.

[@tenten8472]

I feel like i already watch video like this, is this the 10th video comparing ruan and robin?

[@albhtan]

Robin is kind of SP neutral because of how her ult works

[@zp24th]

Anything that can work with DHIL, automatic pull🗣️🗣️

[@Maadhara]

Skill points left the chat

[@zp24th]

@@Maadhara anything is possible🔥🔥🗣️

[@seniorhito]

My E2 DHIL + Sparkle + E1 Bailu (S5 Quid Pro Quo) is about to eat good by adding Robin. I think SP issues ain't a thing if you have a proper speed tuning with your supports.

[@Nebotek1]

Me fr

[@iamrhmt]

When will Ruan Mei have her rerun??? Cause I’m at 70 pulls, if RM won’t be coming for a while, I’d try to pull for Robin first

[@shaanbhaker2875]

Most likely 2.3, so next patch in 6 weeks because sam scales from break effect and is coming in 2.3.

[@MrAlexjmercer]

My only concern is her energy regen in non Follow up attack team

[@senioralexander0]

Most of the times you will need just 2 turns for her to get back her ult in non FuA, in the worst case scenarios 3

[@admiralsc1]

you could powercreep robin easy. Just remove her FUA kit so she dosnt have 160 Energy and boom you have a character you use over her in all comps beside FUA

[@Yumiaia-26]

Tha wouln be done, her kit eben jus the action advance fo team is too strong fo tha to eba happen

[@admiralsc1]

@@Yumiaia-26 i had a stroke reading that

[@FlawedMango]

Hi EODGamer I was wondering if you could do a video discussing Fu Xuan vs Huo Huo? I am currently contemplating between the two since I think both of their reruns are happening soon.

[@raincandy3]

So far, it looks like there's no perfect harmony for dot teams nor acheron teams (maybe bronya for acheron?)

[@Anilomu]

im conflicted, Robin is safer but I run a dot team, so I really want a Ruan mei, the probability of her being delayed even more fills me with dread, I should have gone for her when I had the chance. I don't particularly have the resources to make a follow up team atm, and i lost my 50/50, so i'm thinking about saving for Fu Xuan. Not really sure what to do.

[@kenshinhimura9619]

I am in the same situation. I have decided to just pull 20-30 tickets and if she doesn't drop I will save my pity for Firefly banner, who is a must pull for me and save future tickets for RM even if she drops 2-3 patches later. Because we are gonna get a free 5* harmony in Patch 2.2 anyways, so don't mind waiting for RM.

[@Anilomu]

@@kenshinhimura9619 LMAO same, im so stoked for Firefly as well, but I haven't heard of a free 5* harmony for us, when was this announced?

[@bonlnw3844]

Robin perform better than Ruan mei in DOT team, someone already tested it. To explain why, Robin 100% advance forward for entire team is way better than the buff Ruan mei give.

[@kenshinhimura9619]

​@@Anilomu Oh sorry, I sounded sure of myself but it's only a rumor. Could be false like most rumors. Let's wait and see. 2.2 is right around the corner.

[@MagicalNigachu]

Robin is side grade in all of my teams unfortunately. Maybe in a rerun when i have more fua units but until then shes a pass for me

[@donew1thita11]

Love ur user

[@JR_Zart]

Ur username is gold😂

[@Samwise_genji]

Watch chewy 😊

[@MagicalNigachu]

@@Samwise_genji i know who that is and i know they loves robin, but robin isnt that great for dhil and jingliu which is my 2 main dpses

[@senioralexander0]

@@MagicalNigachufor jingliu she might actually be better than Ruan Mei same goes for double dps jingliu and blade

[@coffeeislife5462]

Ruan Mei needs decent relics herself but doesnt care about her teams'. Robin requires fine speed tuning with relics for the whole team, making her comps much harder to build. So the statement in the f2p kit case is somewhat false. Ruan mei you can just slap into any team once she is built. Robin will needs different speed sets for different speed comps. Sounds like a pain.

[@zeroisnine]

So sick of hearing this comment. She doesn't need heavy speed tuning because unlike Bronya/Sparkle, she advances in her Ultimate not on skill so she is not bound by speed order.

[@nickjordan8996]

Love my Ruan ...but b/t Robin and Topaz, that's the real challenge! Topaz is great!

[@deadbeatseikor0wonl1dance88]

Skipped sparkle cause i knew robin would be the next ruan mei. Now i can finally have 2 ruan mei. :D

[@IdeasAreBulletproof]

Robin is better then Ruan Mei in FUA teams, Inferior to Ruan Mei in Non ATK Scaling teams, and Is a Sidestep either way compared to Ruan Mei in many other teams.

[@ReallytallRosa]

Robins actually just a straight improvement in most teams

[@senioralexander0]

Double dps and dot teams perform much better with Robin than FuA with Robin tbh.

[@turtleneck]

I have Aventurine, Topaz and Dr. Ratio, I NEED Robin.

[@didwewin90]

My resources are on the red this 2.1... Imma need 1 or 2 patches to recover..

[@jeremyloldrup7997]

I just want all the harmony characters, but i do want to get a follow up attack team up and running, i won my 50/50 at 38 pity on aventurine, so im "just" missing topaz and robin (im crying a little for them being on the same banner ;-;)

[@cinnamaricat]

i wish i had enough jades to get robin and still have enough for firefly but i won't be able to get robin but idc when ruan mei reruns she WILL be mine this time (i lost her to bailu originally)

[@LastSnailStanding]

I don't think I need a fourth 5 star Harmony at this point lol, saving for Firefly now.

[@solan2915]

hmmm... im pulling for firefly... who would be better?

[@pecatcat616]

Ryan

[@absolutephoenix5312]

"These are two massive juggernauts- and I don't even mean about their design" what did bro mean by this?

[@super_svt]

Is Robin, Ratio, Aventurine and SW a good team? I don’t have Topaz and don’t really know how to replace her

[@mcmovinup4991]

Yes ratio + aventurine + robin + flex is good just wait for another fua(jade hopefully) if you can't get topaz along w/ robin

[@super_svt]

@@mcmovinup4991 some say that she could replace ratio and not topaz :/ but I’ll still pull for her

[@wenkuzz]

erudition = followup 😂. (himeko, herta, jingyuan, jade, even QQ has a lil followup mechanic)

[@ViniciusFigueiredo19]

I dont think theres a scenario in which an account doesnt benefit from having both

[@kennethyoung7457]

Having more characters is always better but if you have limited jades and money you will have to choose between 4 characters and 4 lightcone banners every patch.

[@patrick6210]

Is there a good chance Ruan mei reruns in 2.3? Cause I need a support for my jingliu and I don’t think robin works well with her

[@rafaalonso8508]

Robin is a good choice for jingliu too

[@GrizzlyLord]

If you don't have RM at all, you should get Robin. I don't think RM will be in 2.3. From the dreams Argenti and HuoHuo have better chances to be in 2.3. Robin will perform similarly and better in FUA.

[@IdeasAreBulletproof]

Robin works fine with Jingliu but she runs into a Similar problem as Sparkle but buffs are inversed as Jingliu gets so much ATK% from Transcendence that Robin's ATK% would Provide a lesser benefit to Jinglliu then Ruan Mei's extra DMG%/Res Pen at E0. (The E1 argument is Redundant As Robin does gain Res Pen but Ruan Mei gains Def Ignore)

[@JohnDoe-si4eg]

2.4 should have the 5 star pela, which may be able to take her spot for jingliu. Would pay attention to their kit if RM does get her rerun soon.

[@Mikiiiiiiiiiip]

getting robin so my ruan mei can stop breaking her back carrying both my follow up and dot teams. Also Ruan Mei is going to be carrying the new break meta as well so Robin is an obvious pull for me

[@lionelsioco123]

i have ruan mei e0s0 but i didnt roll for sparkle since i roll for black swan e0s0, don't know if robin be "a bit" nice alternative for sparkle, i don't have FUA characters besides FREE dr. ratio (no clara since day 1 either), looks like i'm gonna stuck with bronya for now....

[@senioralexander0]

Robin is better than Ruan Mei in hypercarry, worse than sparkle but it’s obvious

[@gauchegunawan7376]

I think ruan mei and sparkle still has more value because they can adapt in any team. Robin just for Follow up attack team not fit in any team

[@kongcrit]

Robin for dual dps

[@donew1thita11]

Idk I kinda want e1 fire fly . I could always use sparkle or e6 asta on my topaz ratio team

[@jjgab16]

i was away from the game at the time ruan mei and sparkle released, so the only harmony i have are bronya and ting, i want to get firefly so i dunno if i should get robin...

[@cereng.4950]

I got aventurine e0s1 so i might as well go for robin and make a complete fua team

[@Force-Multiplier]

I already have a Ruan Mei and Sparkle but my main team is Blade Jingliu C6 Lynx and Ruan Mei and i hear Robin is great in Follow Up Attack teams but is it better to get Robin or Ruan Mei's C1? that's my question also maybe i should wait for a dedicated Blade Healer or variable HP buffing character what are the odds of that happening?

[@Ealdor-Bana]

I want her for her for collection only but I’m skipping her. I have acheron e2, black sawn, sparkle & aventurine so currently i just win at everything outside pure fiction. Basically i just nuked my own account for a while. Also I have Ruan mei sooooo yeah I’m skipping.

[@dheeraj_one]

Save your gems we're going to get Harmony MC anyway.

[@Kriss.S.V]

i just played hsr recently, and i got jingliu, can you make a video jingliu and robin at the same team? i want to see how them both perform together

[@sinarostamzad6779]

I have DH IL , jing yuan, kafka , Dr ratio and acheron and jingliu My sustains :aventurine , gepard , bailu and lynx E6 So between robin , ruan Mei and sparkle who should I choose ?? ( I have silver wolf, hanya , bronya e1 , pela e6 )

[@Rabestern]

In short Ruan gives break and Robin gives turn manipulation. Imo get both. :)

[@zlandar1]

Genius society member > idol

[@nikhilponnam2043]

That's wrong Robin not only gives crit dmg but huge attack buff to the team, but Bronya, Ruan mei, and Sparkle lack this attack buff

[@basharmiqdad5161]

I have jingliu dps and kafka black swan dot and E1 bronya which is better Ruan Mei or Robin in my case

[@Jett125]

If you have ruan mei is robin actually worth it? Or is it better to save jade's for other characters? And how does ruan mei compare in the fua team?

[@RyzenShanks]

If you have Ruan Mei, then you don't need her. I have Ruan Mei, Topaz, Ratio, Aventurine all at E0S0 and i defeat the current MoC12 in 2 cycles. Robin is better in FuA teams and in Pure Fiction because she adds a little more damage to each allies attack and 100% action forward is really OP which makes u clear MoC 1 less cycle.

[@Sinfol]

i dont have any built fua team and only have sparkle who do I pull? Wait for rm rerun or just pull robin?

[@Nastybeast710]

Does Robin work in this team - Acheron, Pela, Healer?

[@alexislabbe5264]

You generaly want 3 nihility and a single shield/heal support for her full buff unless you have e2.

[@mulis9166]

Tingyun is abundance character now ? lol

[@Linclonable]

if you're aiming for low cycle clears robin beats all harmony period

[@chuppcakes]

EOD. where's your Tingyun? 😅

[@Kazuki842]

This videos didnt age well cause already was prove that Robin is way better than RM and sad thing that RM is not even that good for the New break team

[@PoyoPoyomfs]

Your comment definitely didn't age well xd

[@coldbacon4869]

Wtf are you talking about lmfao

[@Dosko_chinpo]

Skipping Robin I love Ruan meis character her S+ tier kit is just a plus

[@munz6434]

if i have Ruan mei already at e0, getting her e1 would surely be better than pulling for e0 robin right?

[@Fr00stee]

so would robin be a good pickup if I have jing yuan and ratio? I don't have aventurine, fu xuan, or huohuo so I have problems with jing getting cc'd / debuffed

[@egotisto]

I'm in the same boat as you. I have JY and Ratio. If you don't have any other buffers like sparkle/ruan mei, go for it 100%. You'll have enough gems saved up for the next patch. I would also recommend eventually getting two 5* sustains such as fu xuan/aventurine but one will do for now

[@Fr00stee]

@@egotisto prob gonna go for robin then fu xuan then. Not sure if I will bother with robin e1 or lightcone since she's getting an f2p one

[@egotisto]

@@Fr00stee go for her e0 I think the lc is good enough and it might be better to save. How many pills do you have saved?

[@Fr00stee]

@@egotisto 29 special passes and about 14k jades. I can also get 5 more passes from the shop

[@egotisto]

@@Fr00stee Yea you're good. Focus on getting robin + fu xuan and then you'll be set for a team for sure. Hanya will be a 4* in the banner so that can be used as a second support if you don't have one. Gl! :) feel free to add me if you want

[@moylinkinpark]

which one is better to pull for if i already have e0 ruan mei and e0 sparkle? robin e0 or ruan mei e1

[@zp24th]

I think robin for more variety in teams, but if you want your ruan mei to be op af then go for e1

[@IdeasAreBulletproof]

Robin's E0 is quite a bit of value upon itself when it comes to her 100% Teamwide AV. I'd say new units over Eidolons as Horizontal Investment is better at a F2p level but Ruan Mei's E1 is such a good Eidolon that if one's Looking for more Vertical investment it's always a good pickup

[@mismagia]

Ruan Mei E1 you've already invested resources into getting your Ruan Mei built robin isn't going to be the difference between clearing and not clearing MoC12 or PF4 when you already have like 95% of her buff from Ruan mei

[@GreyAn1015]

@@mismagia that said, you need 2 teams for pf and moc so it wouldn''t hurt to just slot one of them in each team imo (assuming if their second team is struggling ofcourse)