GW models are TOO detailed and OBNOXIOUS!

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@EonsOfBattle
@EonsOfBattle 2 жыл бұрын
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@dicebot9617
@dicebot9617 2 жыл бұрын
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@Josh24861
@Josh24861 2 жыл бұрын
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@CalAndAly
@CalAndAly 2 жыл бұрын
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@DeadEyeDuckling
@DeadEyeDuckling 2 жыл бұрын
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@burningchalice
@burningchalice 2 жыл бұрын
I have an extra ancient if you need one!
@BlastedRodent
@BlastedRodent 2 жыл бұрын
I recently finished a necromunda gang and moved on to painting a malifaux crew, and let me tell you, it was SUCH a change suddenly being able to paint shirt-pants-skin-done instead of endless layers of little interlocking baubles and belts EVERYWHERE
@ScreamingTc
@ScreamingTc 2 жыл бұрын
I keep looking at my Necromunda models and end up rocking in the corner, not knowing where to even start. They're too detailed. It's god-damned overwhelming if you aren't experienced in dealing with GW's over-designed minis.
@patinho5589
@patinho5589 2 жыл бұрын
We had this in Warhammer fantasy for years!
@DaThingOnTheDoorstep
@DaThingOnTheDoorstep 2 жыл бұрын
Here's a trick I started using recently: get some speedpaint/contrast. You see belts, straps, pouches: paint them either white, light grey, or off white. Then pick a sensible speedpaint/contrast, your browns or blacks, then apply. Now you have decently shaded and highlighted miscellanea on your mini!
@rutgaurxi7314
@rutgaurxi7314 2 жыл бұрын
Not touching vintage Necro models? I'm a bit torn on Malifax models, though I do have a load of SW Legion models to get through. And the thought of those models is more intimating than anything GW can ever come up with - IMO.
@willpenn966
@willpenn966 2 жыл бұрын
Look at far as I'm concerned assembling Malifaux minis is a right of passage for any mini gamer. Congratulations on finding the best skirmish game though!
@WompaStompaCyn
@WompaStompaCyn 2 жыл бұрын
The gaudiness is part of the warhammer aesthetic. I can't imagine looking at a model and thinking "this would look better with less stuff on it!" I usually find myself thinking of what stuff I can add to it to make it more obnoxious.
@minishaw280
@minishaw280 2 жыл бұрын
Same always adding more to my models! Legit spend so much time buying bits lots on eBay to add more
@bleepsy
@bleepsy 2 жыл бұрын
Personally, I prefer the simpler models because then I get to pick all the obnoxious gubbins to slap onto them. A blank slate is easier to add to, or you can choose not to add to it if that's your vibe.
@shadow025027
@shadow025027 2 жыл бұрын
@@bleepsy exactly, I don't want GW dictating what is on the model / I have to spend forever removing details I don't want.
@laface2361
@laface2361 Жыл бұрын
@@bleepsy exactly, also the choice to have some parts look smooth to make the gubbins stand out is nice
@tox9809
@tox9809 Жыл бұрын
@@bleepsy i am new to the models part of warhammer and have only painted one necron warrior, but the entire time i had the urge to grab my exacto knife scratch in more damage (even though i gave them enough during assembly).
@KabinMiniatures
@KabinMiniatures 2 жыл бұрын
This is actually why I like the new Mk VI Marines for HH, as they are quite "plain" and very quick to paint, but still allow you to add more detail in forms of extra parts, transfers etc.
@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t
@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t 2 жыл бұрын
I think that's the best approach; as much as anything else, all the details (a lot like 'dynamic' poses) make repeats of the same sculpt stand out like a sore thumb. If you start with undecorated minis, and add the pouches, purity seals and other stff as you see fit, not only do you get your own unique model, but if you've got 2 of the same in your army, it's really easy to make them look different while still being part of the same army.
@Seven_Swell
@Seven_Swell 2 жыл бұрын
Same, they're like a blank canvas that I can put on my own details to taste.
@Messermarkmauritz
@Messermarkmauritz 2 жыл бұрын
Jup i love the New HH Modells but unfortunatley i hate the System.....
@Deimos0
@Deimos0 2 жыл бұрын
that's why I also liked the new Chosen scultps - with different detail-level torsos and pauldrons - I put together some extremely busy and ornate models (against the instruction, duh) and a few plain ones - all great in their own way
@thenerfkid9228
@thenerfkid9228 Жыл бұрын
​@@Messermarkmauritzrelic terminators and relic dreads say hi. Also just use the mk 6 to build tac squads
@Sleeper_6875
@Sleeper_6875 2 жыл бұрын
I love the details but it really depends on the model. For a luxurious and zealous space marine it makes sense, but for a basic guardsman it doesn’t. And I think generally GW does a pretty good job with that, I mean look at the Eldar troops, simple and effective
@BlastedRodent
@BlastedRodent 2 жыл бұрын
Now that I think about it, that might be why guardsmen and termagaunts are the last really old basic troops still sold?
@bobdick5609
@bobdick5609 2 жыл бұрын
@@BlastedRodent don't forget ork boyz
@matthiuskoenig3378
@matthiuskoenig3378 2 жыл бұрын
why doesn't it make sense for guardsmen? if anything the average guardsmen is more religious and superstitious than your average marine.
@M3RUL3Z
@M3RUL3Z 2 жыл бұрын
@@BlastedRodent new guardians are still pleasantly simple, granted they needed a refresh more than even the cadians
@regalgiant1597
@regalgiant1597 2 жыл бұрын
@@matthiuskoenig3378 personality-wise, maybe, which you can convert, but guard gear is mass porduced and standard issue, anything else is your worlds affectations. So they did them right.
@StripesW
@StripesW 2 жыл бұрын
Painting all the details on a GW mini means that my painting time investment actually validates the amount of money I spend on them.
@philurbaniak1811
@philurbaniak1811 2 жыл бұрын
Same here 👍👍!
@LjVics
@LjVics 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree my outlook is if I pay 15 pounds in the UK I means I should get at least 15 hours out of it
@MrCarp69
@MrCarp69 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree thats the reason I chose to finally take the leap. I love the detail. Building amd painting is cathartic and therapeutic.
@rdg1065
@rdg1065 2 жыл бұрын
Controversial opinion here from you because honestly that’s why we like 40k
@Hobbyrepubliken
@Hobbyrepubliken 2 жыл бұрын
I recommend everyone that collects or plays with human sized factions like Imperial Guard to check out Stargrave and Frostgrave kits. Excellent stuff perfect for kitbashing
@alphariusomegon3965
@alphariusomegon3965 2 жыл бұрын
Also wargaming Atlantic
@zeterzero4356
@zeterzero4356 Жыл бұрын
These are both true statements. Both companies give you so much kit bash fodder for very good prices.
@trovarion
@trovarion 2 жыл бұрын
my guy should have seen Confrontation models back in the day...that was some detail gallore :D
@miniaturefun-guy
@miniaturefun-guy 2 жыл бұрын
I love Jay. Owns a massive Black Templar army and is a big fan of their lore. GW release a bunch of new black Templar models and he’s like “I’ll pass thanks”. Where as most KZbin creatures would have preordered the box and made a million videos of them opening the box, building the box, painting the box, pairing more of the box…..and son on. Keep up the good guys. Your channel is fantastic.
@Wildonion1
@Wildonion1 2 жыл бұрын
Love this quick and easy breakdown of the mini into broad sections of color--and I totally didn't notice the back of the tabard was still black. It is weirdly freeing to see someone who paints so well giving permission to skip over details or just giving them a small amount of color before moving on!
@christianwachs3963
@christianwachs3963 2 жыл бұрын
I couldn’t agree more! My issue with say space marines is that it takes me 2-3 hours, which for one mini is a lot understandably. While with soldiers or even your average guardsman, is about 30 mins to 1 hour so not too bad. Really great vid by the way!
@squidcultist0022
@squidcultist0022 2 жыл бұрын
Only 2-3 hours? How?
@The_Watchful_Scribe
@The_Watchful_Scribe 6 ай бұрын
You and a few others have inspired me to collect Black Templars and I love your Templars! I do paint differently but I still like’em
@ScytheNoire
@ScytheNoire 2 жыл бұрын
30 different paints. LOL GW must be against people mixing paints on a wet pallet. Wait, is that the reason why they haven't released a wet pallet yet, because it would show their pots to be a horrible design and people might buy less paints?
@philurbaniak1811
@philurbaniak1811 2 жыл бұрын
These look so good! My biggest wish for this hobby is that every participant genuinely enjoys it, whatever that means to them 👍👍
@williamamely7038
@williamamely7038 2 жыл бұрын
Great work, Jay. I can see many newcomers to the hobby use your videos to paint their models. Duncan Rhodes is also a great reference, though he does use many paints to achieve the same thing. There are quite a number of good model painters to watch on KZbin, and you are definitely very good at what you do.
@mathiasroth1416
@mathiasroth1416 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree, that the GW miniatures have too much detail. In addition, they often lack empty surfaces big enough for decals or freehanding. This is why I love the Knights and Titan models, because they give you the empty space to be creative.
@davemonster2
@davemonster2 2 жыл бұрын
have you seen archvillaingames minis??? their new lizard warriors are way more detailed than a space marine xD
@mathiasroth1416
@mathiasroth1416 2 жыл бұрын
I‘ve just taken a look at them, and yes, they are insanely detailed. But the nice thing about them is, that their details are actually in scale to the rest of the model. Space Marines aren’t very detailed most of the time (although they have a lot of edges for you to highlight). However GW details are always way too large and out of scale. At least Marines have dedicated surfaces for heraldry. Shields and banners should include an empty default version, which lets the painter choose their own heraldry.
@6132-k1n
@6132-k1n 2 жыл бұрын
@@mathiasroth1416 GW models are actually very balanced around the scale and are made to be readable from a tabletop distance. The details are very well designed in that regard. They're less meant to be proportionally accurate models and I personally like it way more this way. It's easy to make a super detailed model, but way harder to make it simple and balanced.
@bleepsy
@bleepsy 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who has been building some of the new Chaos Knights recently, I wholeheartedly agree. It's also part of the reason why I'm actually really excited for the Leagues of Votann because they've got chunky armour that isn't covered up by all sorts of useless nonsense - so I can add my own useless nonsense in as great or as small quantities as I like.
@Hadwerd7
@Hadwerd7 2 жыл бұрын
The Black Templar custom of chaining the weapon to the hand was actually something Sigismund picked up from his time dueling in the gladiatorial pits of the World Eaters legion.
@americonabroad
@americonabroad 2 жыл бұрын
Started the Indomitus box mainly for the Necrons since my primary army is AdMech and there are lots of good lore between the 2 but this gave me inspiration to get going on the Ultramarines!
@KamenRiderGreed
@KamenRiderGreed 2 жыл бұрын
If you want a good argument that GW models have too much detail, look at the Lumineth Realm Lords range for Age of Sigmar. I don't think that's the case for *everything* GW, after all, look at Stormcast Eternals, they've got just enough detail on them on most of their models. But Lumineth just have too much. At least in my opinion.
@kikolokopo_toys
@kikolokopo_toys 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, imma comment on every video that it is a good surgery recovery video. They are. Im on recovery. Nobody can stop me
@Zulfrak
@Zulfrak 2 жыл бұрын
The Problem isnt that some Minis get to obnoxious detailed....ist that every god damn Mini gets obnoxious detailed. Blade Guard Vets? yes please, they are badass elite warriors. my run of the mill foot warrior that i gotta paint 40 off? please no, keep them simple. the new MK6 marines are a great for that. they look good and they dont have tons of edges, trims etc. easy to paint in mass while characters get the Bling Bling treatment.
@erebus9217
@erebus9217 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t suppose painting over the decal would work, would it?
@travisjohnson622
@travisjohnson622 Жыл бұрын
You dont have to paint every little bit and detail its own seperate color. Plenty of things on a gw model that can be "skipped" or cheated on and still look good. Sometimes over detailing only leads to burn out and half finished work in the shame pile. From the get go I always ask what can be spared the excess time and articulation. Belt buckles? Little skulls on the guns? Every little ornament on a necklace?
@TenshiProductionz
@TenshiProductionz 2 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile me thinking GW models details are just on spot: Looking at you ArchVillain.
@naib_stilgar
@naib_stilgar 2 жыл бұрын
"Luckily most of the details are right here in his crotch, so I'm gonna treat it like one big object." Enjoy, Jay.
@KneeCapHill
@KneeCapHill 2 жыл бұрын
They aint selling them cheap so they might as well make them full of accessories and optional bling. 40k was never about tacticool so they need to keep the minis a certain level of busy
@mattymattmatt7640
@mattymattmatt7640 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad I chose to go with Blood Angels as my main army, if it wasn’t for the Mephiston Red rattle can a good half of my army would still be in my POS
@daili4917
@daili4917 2 жыл бұрын
This is partially why I like Necrons, not covered in pouches, grenades and other details! Also the cobalt keep wet pallet looks good, but it comes with a copper disc - what is that for?!
@annekamcleod2013
@annekamcleod2013 2 жыл бұрын
The copper disc is probably to prevent mold etc from growing on the wet pallet as copper has antimicrobial properties
@Matt-1567
@Matt-1567 2 жыл бұрын
Detail is best, i hate primaris cuz of how boring most of them are. God forbid models have character...
@DangerousGazes
@DangerousGazes 2 жыл бұрын
I just wanna shoutout the little things in the editing in this video. The chair spin into the painting sektion was crisp. Sometimes a mini can look bare and unfinished but when you start coloring in the little details like buttons, armor chipping or cabels it makes the whole thkng so much better. Thats basically what you do to this video. Keep up the little "quality-of-life"-like additions in the production 👍
@dnaseb9214
@dnaseb9214 2 жыл бұрын
I donno man. I love the details. Especially if its a character. If its a random unit, I dont care.
@jack-a-lopium
@jack-a-lopium 2 жыл бұрын
Jay is the Yoda of mini painting!
@jack1701e
@jack1701e 2 жыл бұрын
Glances over to my recently purchased Infinity miniatures... that have a LOT of details.
@johnbeaudoin7820
@johnbeaudoin7820 2 жыл бұрын
You can avoid painting your pile of shame by stepping on it? This opens up so many possibilities. . .
@apinakapinastorba
@apinakapinastorba 2 жыл бұрын
I feel kinda weird now finishing the Indomitus Box after a month when it dropped.
@XanderNotZander
@XanderNotZander 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not a big fan of the highlight gradient on the red parts, it's just not right to me visually, but that's up to personal preference and I like the rest alot
@bretts2356
@bretts2356 2 жыл бұрын
They turned out great! Coincidentally, I finally started building my Spehz Mehreens from Indomitus last night. I have a whole 2 of them done. BUT... I have all of the Necrons built and painted (plus a LOT more on top of that), so I think I am ahead of the curve. ALSO... I do not need another wet pallet, as the Masterson Sta-Wet pallet is pretty much perfect for me... but that Cobalt Keep one looks pretty cool and they keep sponsoring you guys AND... I am a sucker for Kickstarters, so I threw a few bucks their way. Thanks for making me spend more money, jerks.
@marcusci4478
@marcusci4478 2 жыл бұрын
I actually like the detail of GW models. I enjoy painting and you can choose to detail as much or as little of the model as you like
@stefanscholl1985
@stefanscholl1985 2 жыл бұрын
I love the wall of detail. Overly ornate is the style of 40k and I love it.
@0traken
@0traken 2 жыл бұрын
Never thought of painting everything in the Indomitus box as such a great accomplishment. I think it took 2 months or so everyday. Sure, I'll take it though as being a part of the cool kids club. 😎
@quahodron2756
@quahodron2756 2 жыл бұрын
Bladeguard are overdetailed??? *laugher in sword brethren*
@buffybot635
@buffybot635 2 жыл бұрын
I always paint all the details on my minis (at the moment Sacred Rose soros) even if the details are hidden and on the battlefield hard to spot. I always go for the eavy metal style (love that comic look). I dont mind that every single miniature takes it time, thats why I also dont use an airbrush for shortcuts. For me its all about the journey. And you will really get to know every single one of your minis when painting every detail thats there. :)
@thomasbryans6547
@thomasbryans6547 2 жыл бұрын
I love how detailed they get… I started painting maybe a month or two ago and was totally intimidated by how complex some designs were. So I started with basic Space Marines. I’ve gotten fairly good at painting those and look forward to doing more complex paint jobs now!
@jeremyobriant7266
@jeremyobriant7266 2 жыл бұрын
As I'm just getting started painting Warhammer 40k (Sisters of Battle), coming from painting games like Star Wars: Legion, Marvel: Crisis Protocol and ASOIAF, Warhammer models are definitely much more detailed. I often stick to painting simply (sticking to a basecoat or two and maybe a few highlights followed by some washes, or using contrast/speedpaint), focusing on getting miniatures on the tabletop, and Warhammer miniatures definitely cause me to put more time into them due to the details. Although I've practiced more advanced techniques, I'm not trying to win a Golden Demon. I appreciate a great, 4+ hour paint job, but it's not my job to paint amazing models for KZbin, and that probably accounts for why I'm more interested in getting my miniatures ready for battle.
@kenwalker5384
@kenwalker5384 2 жыл бұрын
GW's commitment to detail uber alles is proof to me that they're no longer interested in TTW, and are trying to leverage the collectables market. Their interest in gaming is steering towards an on line only model, and already licencing of their IP is generating more of their revenue stream than anything else!
@jamesdo3086
@jamesdo3086 2 жыл бұрын
Bro what???
@taliesinbreen
@taliesinbreen 2 жыл бұрын
I feel this way about the Death Guard models. I love all the grossness but they’re such busy models
@rutgaurxi7314
@rutgaurxi7314 2 жыл бұрын
I snipe off the tentacles and fill in a few holes, not to mention taking the time to head swap them and those models 100% better.
@taliesinbreen
@taliesinbreen 2 жыл бұрын
@@rutgaurxi7314 Nice! I reckon I’ll probably end up doing that. I like a mouth-stomach here or a tentacle there, but when one regular plague marine has a dozen different mutations or expose organ etc, it becomes a bit overwhelming to imagine painting 2000 points of them.
@rutgaurxi7314
@rutgaurxi7314 2 жыл бұрын
@@taliesinbreen It really does become a bit much. I'm trying to move my models closer to the third edition metal models, as they capture the right atmosphere for the Death Guard, at least as far as I'm concerned.
@ageoflove1980
@ageoflove1980 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to remind us that our models don't have to look good in extreme close-up and studio lights nor should we want to probably. I also think that GW keeps adding more details to a point it becomes rather ridiculous to justify their price hikes.
@CalAndAly
@CalAndAly 2 жыл бұрын
I’M RIGHT in the middle of figuring out my black Templars armor technique and xenithal’ing white scar of black, but your technique of pre-highlighting and mixing contrast Black Templar with nuln and leviathan is EXACTLY what I’m looking for!!
@Sleeper_6875
@Sleeper_6875 2 жыл бұрын
With the backs of cloth and cloaks and tabards I just use the excuse that they’re in shadow, no need for painting
@GreenBlueWalkthrough
@GreenBlueWalkthrough 2 жыл бұрын
Untill you inspect them and flip them over in your hand.
@minishaw280
@minishaw280 2 жыл бұрын
This makes me cringe
@theonetruedoge6375
@theonetruedoge6375 2 жыл бұрын
Bladeguard is love Bladeguard is life
@djohnson1084
@djohnson1084 2 жыл бұрын
An Indomitus box was my first wargaming purchase I've ever made (February 2022). I can say with pride that finished the entire box before making another purchase. I really appreciate this video and the "You don't have to paint everything mentality." I started with the Assault Intercessors and spent 2-4 hours on each painstakingly painting every detail and correcting every error I made. Characters would take me an entire day of painting. When I played my first game and saw all my models at table top distance, and 5 of my 10 Assault intercessors got wiped off the table in turn 1. I got a very quick perspective on just how much time I should be spending on each model haha
@lain4231
@lain4231 2 жыл бұрын
Your channel is such a blast.
@SmolShorkess
@SmolShorkess 2 жыл бұрын
In a very few codex’s mixing and thinking down paints are starting to be recommended by GW( the big example is the most recent skaven codex with the horns and mulch examples)
@EldritchAnimation
@EldritchAnimation 2 жыл бұрын
I disagree with the idea of them being overdetailed, but I'm into the hobby much more for the painting than the gaming. I'm not looking to get anything done quick, I'm looking to really dig into some details and spend a lot of time and care on each model.
@peroxideman5292
@peroxideman5292 2 жыл бұрын
I'm currently struggling through 1000 points of death guard.... WHY ARE THERE SO MANY HIDDEN TENTACLES AND MAGGOTS THEY'RE DRIVING ME INSANE
@saltymcsalt
@saltymcsalt 2 жыл бұрын
Personally, I love the detail. Get your moneys worth for the price you pay.
@brianhall4182
@brianhall4182 2 жыл бұрын
Detail isn't the issue I have with GW models though they do tend to be a lil annoying if there's too much of it. MY problem is the lack of pose options. I didn't even realize this at first. I bought my first Recruit box, built everything, painted everything, and was like "this is neat!". Then I went onto Ebay and snagged 10 cheap pre-built used tactical marines so I had more stuff to paint. When I got them I realized "Hey, wait... these guys all have different backpacks. And their arms and hands look like they're separate. These arms also look like they were glued in weird positions. And where are their arm pegs? ...waaaait, it looks like whoever built these before me got to CHOOSE the pose they wanted. They let you do that with older models?! Why can't I do that with my new models?"
@SeaTimeless
@SeaTimeless Жыл бұрын
As someone who is relatively new to 40k models but not to 40k lore, I've been finding myself going out of my way to buy the gaudier/more detailed kits (e.g. Blood Angels Assault Terminators or Firstborn Death Company models) because GW generally seems to be avoiding that level of detail/overdecoration in a lot of the newer models they put out, so whenever they put out stuff that is highly detailed it is a win for me. Plus any molded detail saves me from having to freehand! Primaris proportions I like, but when they skimp on detail (especially chapter stuff like on the Death Company Intercessors) it makes me long for the older stuff.
@Galaktium
@Galaktium 2 жыл бұрын
Obnoxious but consistent
@petrinafilip96
@petrinafilip96 2 жыл бұрын
Well, I hated first wave primaris because they felt so BLAND. I love the obnoxious ornamenation on most GW models. Even though I'd prefer if models were actually plain but each kit came with tons of little bits, like you get with Grey Knight Paladins for example. So you can choose how much you want to bling them out.
@brionl4741
@brionl4741 Жыл бұрын
Oh man, the flingin' flangin' Griff Oberwald model in the Blood Bowl 2nd season is just insane. That stupid hawk is only stuck on by a tiny little 1 sq mm medal. Trying to get his big fat head *inside* the helmet after it's glued together? What moron thought that was a good idea. Varag Ghoul Chewer is almost as bad, and the Troll is insane with the tiny little ankle bracelet you have to glue around the foot so the leg won't fall off. OMGWTFBBQ!!1!!
@Expendabrah1000
@Expendabrah1000 2 жыл бұрын
sick grey templars
@epsilon-6-145
@epsilon-6-145 2 жыл бұрын
I respect your opinion but I disagree, to me, warhammer is the EMBODIMENT of over the top, obnoxious ridiculousness, I've never looked at a model and thought, "I wish it had less detail".
@RobertStyx
@RobertStyx 2 жыл бұрын
IMO, the level of detail on GW's minis is quite nice. There is a decent amount of detail to make the models feel realistic, but not an overwhelming amount for painting and modelling. However, I find the amount of detail in their terrain to be obnoxious. Their terrain has far more detail than you would see in any real world buildings, MAYBE excepting ostentatiously decorated gothic cathedrals. IMO, their terrain looks really bad because of it.
@JachymorDota
@JachymorDota 2 жыл бұрын
I personally enjoy more Warcrafty-designs with big parts of undecorated armor, muscles and cloth. Lavish details should be reserved for heroes and leaders. And while the new Warcry models look cool, I would not want to paint them "properly". Just give them the blanshitsu-treatment and let the Nuln Oil make the details pop.
@SilverHwk7
@SilverHwk7 2 жыл бұрын
Also, Games Workshop paints their minis a certain way for another goal: To get you to buy their paints (also why they don't talk about mixing paint). I just finished my Stars of Akarios board game minis and there were relatively few colors I used straight from the bottle, no-mixing. I almost always mixed to achieve the blue or brown or red present in the picture I was trying to emulate.
@DieL4ppenWG
@DieL4ppenWG 2 жыл бұрын
Painting my first 2000 points army right now. Choose Chaos Space Marines (NIght Lords)...cool minis but reeeeeally annoying to paint at times. It's such a big contrast to my necron models i painted before.
@blazejbch
@blazejbch Жыл бұрын
Yeah so for me many today's GW minis are ridiculously baroque. Like Paris catwalk models on acid. It might attract some folks drilled by silly action movies, but for me it's becoming grotesque.
@IbocC64
@IbocC64 Жыл бұрын
You think these are bad, try agreeing to paint a complete set of Blood Rage Minis for the board game. I have been working on a set for a friend of mine for 2 1/2 years. They are 99% done now. Just finishing eyes and metallic trim.
@MestreGuilderiusLCB
@MestreGuilderiusLCB 2 жыл бұрын
SM players and painters complaining about having a few entries with highly detailed minis makes me laugh ! When your average 28mm AdMech infantry dude is litteraly filled with tubes, chains, little skulls and cog, you see SM as huge plain minis xD
@ChristopherSmith-dq2xs
@ChristopherSmith-dq2xs 2 жыл бұрын
I just ignore half of it. I mean fuck, imperial guard I slap and brown and green over the model AFTER doing skin & holsters etc. Add some black for an 80s British Army camo pat style, hit with mid or strong tone wash done
@braija
@braija 2 жыл бұрын
There are a lot of skilled artists out there doing stls. But a lot of it just looks, well, messy. Say what you want about geedubs, but they got one thing right, they take the profile of the mini into account. If I can't recognize what your awsume model is, well to heck with it. To all artist, think of the profile. If it looks like an exploded pineapple, get back to the drawingboard.
@fredriksvard2603
@fredriksvard2603 2 жыл бұрын
Not just obnoxious, some of us think it looks messy or overembellished aesthetically. I like no-nonsense space marines and dislike all the knighty/templary stuff with banners, sigils, scrolls and stuff everywhere. Most hq:s are a no-go for me except ones like phobos librarian and some names ones.
@gregsmw
@gregsmw 2 жыл бұрын
id actually argue that GW models are LESS detailed then their competition, but what they have is more eye catching details if you compare a CSM model to any of the 100 other "proxy csm" models the GW ones are by FAR the least detailed, they have far fewer spikes and decals and gribblys, but they look better because what details they do have stand out more and are more eye catching, where the alternate chaos models are just a mess of overdesign
@Future-Corpse
@Future-Corpse 2 жыл бұрын
I just kitbashed an ordo malleus inquisitor for my guard army out of a grey knights librarian. It was fun adding on all the extra bits and demon heads and custom chopping a cross topper for his force stave. But MAN is there a lot going on with him. Hes absolutely covered in stuff. Im looking forward to painting him to be as gaudy and flashy as possible. Nothing cooler than an inquisitor in full battle rattle.
@tobylancaster3418
@tobylancaster3418 2 жыл бұрын
I'm really struggling with the praetors from the Horus Heresy box because of this. I don't like to use sub assembly if I don't have to and I didn't with them..... I made a mistake. The amount of detail on them is ridiculous.
@tommymclaughlin-artist
@tommymclaughlin-artist 2 жыл бұрын
I'm only 2 minutes in but I had to comment. They recommend 30 different paints???!!? That's crazy. You only ever need 5 paints, tops.
@BonziKittyGamingHub
@BonziKittyGamingHub Жыл бұрын
With all due respect, but 100% disagree. I remember painting 3rd Edition Marines wishing they had all the cool stuff. How the grass is greener. Keep up the great videos !
@rutgaurxi7314
@rutgaurxi7314 2 жыл бұрын
Jay! You wouldn't like to free hand the details on (the now dead) Halo: Ground Command minis. I have those to paint, along with some escape from the Sulaco mini's.
@Mike-8404
@Mike-8404 Жыл бұрын
These are my favorite models and form the core of my Black Templars army as BGV and as Sword Brethern. Sure, it'll take me a few weeks to complete them, and I'm sure they'll get stripped a few times, but damn, they are the best models GW has released in years. My Black Templars army is happy to have them lol
@LongLe-wx8gb
@LongLe-wx8gb 2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos bud. You have been my go to now. Question about this technique. What black do you use if you need to make corrections? My base coats has always been Abaddon black so when I need to make corrections, I just use AB again.
@Wingz89
@Wingz89 2 жыл бұрын
For my chaos alpha legion army I don’t even bother painting the uh. Bicep armor? When they are holding bolters. Began to do it with pistol/chain sword. And since it’s consistence it looks less like laziness. And more like an army. Consistency is key!
@the_inquisitive_inquisitor
@the_inquisitive_inquisitor 2 жыл бұрын
I think a lot of the newer (especially mono-pose) models are just too busy with details. They feel over designed and I'd like more room for making my models my own. Why's _everybody_ gotta be standing on rocks these days?
@djciregethigher
@djciregethigher Жыл бұрын
You’re so nasty at painting! You blend artistry with pragmatism, and as a creative who loves gaming… and as a noob to 40K… your content hits it home!!! Cheers!!!!
@Tpttraitor
@Tpttraitor 2 жыл бұрын
I'm in the club of not painting the full Indomitus box. Every model is painted besides the Bladeguard Ancient because his banner was sacrificed for a kit bash so he will forever stand primed and holding a walking stick.
@tx7140
@tx7140 2 жыл бұрын
I just wish we could glue on our own pouches/grenades/holsters to the belts if we want to, rather than them being pre-sculpted on. They're always in really awkward spots which make a black primer almost mandatory.
@lordcorporal4247
@lordcorporal4247 2 жыл бұрын
Hey just as a side comment I wanted to let you know something that kinda benefits me with “all those Colors.” Games workshops tremendous amounts of paints, tho expensive, let’s me, as a color blind person, be able to enjoy this hobby. I can’t tell Color’s and think totally different Color’s are the same so gw having named paints that don’t make me have to mix allows a person like me to get into the hobby and paint my own minis cuz I can just look at the names and be able to paint.
@herecomesthatboy1961
@herecomesthatboy1961 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I haven't liked many models thye've put out since the primaris range launched. All the 'stuff' really infuriates me. I hate hate hate all the tassels, dangly bits and especially all the character models with two robe bits in front, see 30k ahriman or the limited edition terminator chaplain from a year or two ago for great examples.
@bobbobertbobberton1073
@bobbobertbobberton1073 2 жыл бұрын
Nonsense, they've always been extremely detailed, even since 2nd edition, I mean look at the old Calgar model or the captains etc. Bladeguard are on the high-end of detailed but not that much more than its always been. They are larger models and therefore can have more detail, but SM's have always supposed to be covered in icons, purity seals etc.
@slavicsqwishmotion_product6408
@slavicsqwishmotion_product6408 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, as someone who rarely plays 40k and spends most of his time just painting minis, I enjoy the challenge of painting all the excruciating details. But I understand why people don't like this.
@euansmith3699
@euansmith3699 2 жыл бұрын
How am I supposed to paint the contents of my Indomitus box; it is covered in shrink wrap? Those Blade Guard look great. The tilting shields are very cool.
@hailon_rias7341
@hailon_rias7341 Жыл бұрын
I mean, I don’t care about how difficult it is to paint, I do care about the aesthetics though, Warhammer has such an issue with their aesthetics. Over detailing, bad model designs awkward posing.
@crusader8626
@crusader8626 7 ай бұрын
The only one so far I'm a bit off by is the imperial guard being more detailed. I kinda wish they'd just changed up the heads to the selection they have now or just included an upgrade sprue in the box with the cadians
@oblahuwtf5786
@oblahuwtf5786 2 жыл бұрын
The video actually turned out much less toxic then i anticipated from the titel. Glad you got the curve and focused on your educational tips and tricks instead of just ranting off. Love it, pls keep on giving!!
@wesleycaruso6914
@wesleycaruso6914 4 ай бұрын
I'd love to see an attempt at a zenothal using your normal black paint as the (white) and an ultra black like black 2.0 as the shadow deep black
@iandestroyerofworlds576
@iandestroyerofworlds576 2 жыл бұрын
I like the details as I'm not the best painter, but the details disguises my impatience and all I do is color in the picture. @ian.40mm for my minis. You'll see what I mean. I'm a believer in keeping things to my advantage and not wasting time.
@simon6154
@simon6154 Жыл бұрын
I don't know if anyone will see this. But I love this kind of tips. I'm having problem of being to precise. It takes me hoouurs to paint one small fighter. I want it to be perfect. But it takes too much time. I will buy airbrush once cuz I see it's so much easier to paint with it
@enoughfafwa
@enoughfafwa 2 жыл бұрын
Phenomal job! The extra effort you put into the right places makes all the difference! Thanks for all your great advice! And great work on the video-ing Nick :)
@AshleyBlackwater
@AshleyBlackwater 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not a big fan of the overly detailed look of space marines, especially the primarias. Used to be easier to convert when they weren't as monopose Definitely something that might make me go down the 3rd party or 3d printing route to fix if I ever get back into the hobby
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