My Giant Black Templars Army | Full Collection!

[@EonsOfBattle]

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[@mikebinderson]

i like the old scouts

[@mikebinderson]

if your looking to sell old stuff id be intrested, i colect and use old space marines.

[@drigoleus1055]

Have you ever had a game with your full Black templar army?

[@ReganSpor]

Diorama with Nick's blue Orks recreating John Blanche's Black Templar art work.

[@Itsknightmare]

This is the one

[@JasonM69]

Yes

[@SamuelWorsdale-yh6gm]

Great idea

[@happybuddyperson]

yesss

[@drewupton4538]

This

[@maximumattackrallying]

I think kitbashing some of them to bring them up-to-date is a good idea, but I'd keep a few back, just for sentimental reasons. Always nice to be reminded of where you started out, or some of your favourite models/paint jobs from when you started. I was out of the hobby for several years and don't have any of my models from the early days, which is a real shame. I actually just bought a few classic models to paint, just for nostalgia. They'll never see a game, but that doesn't matter, as they're just for fun.

[@laurencepenfold]

Hardly worth saying but my original Space Marines (Rogue Trader Space Wolves, mostly RTB01) are just chilling in a box. A testament to GW's evolving lore and design, they started life as Crimson Fists and got wholesale repainted when they got decimated in the lore. Then GW launched their Viking theme for Space Wolves and mark 7 armour and my collection just got boxed, never again to see the battlefield. I only started marines again last year and my primaris are Crimson Fists, except my mixed first founding kill team.

[@EIRW1Z]

This whole video, as well as your comment, are a massive nostalgia trip for me! I was introduced to 40k by a friend when I was around 9/10 years old, I think it was 1992, so towards the end of 2nd edition, I believe. He had a Black Templar army! Some other friends played Old World Warhammer and had Bretonnians and Skeleton hordes. While learning about the differences I almost settled on a Dwarven army but, upon visiting a Games Workshop store, I found the Space Wolves! I'd originally been drawn to the Crimson Fists, as they were the original poster boys for 40k, but the unique models and names of Russ' Wolves had me sold! I eventually collected a 2-3k point army of Wolves. They now sit proudly in their own display cabinet, simply for the nostalgia! After a 25 year hiatus, I rekindled my love of model collecting/building/painting and now I have a large Primaris force of Dorn's finest...the Crimson Fists, of course!

[@devineyre5545]

Jay you have to run the old dreadnaughts! You cannot let the ancients be forgotten! Their whole sthick is that they look old and out-of-place.

[@5az2]

Love the video, but there is a one thing that has been bugging me for a while. The little kroot doggo on the shelf in front of the Necrons and Oks codecies. Could you spare a couple of hours to paint it up, pleeease?

[@alvs1177]

Love to see how your templars have come along. One suggestion I have for old marines is to kitbash them into a different time period when those armour marks were mostly around such as the badab war or very late Heresy, removing all decorative bits

[@lawrencejackson6113]

Don't purge! Please... On your channel.. a cool thing I'd love to see you explore in the future ... Old-Hammer. Have you thought about curating a 4th/5th (or whatever) era army? Between your Templars and your Orks... you could have a fun side-board 4th/5th "classic" army. I like the new stuff and play, but also see 4th/5th era as perfectly viable with friends, etc.

[@UndeadCustodian]

with the old aircraft you can crash that one and use it for a base or you can do some kit bashing to try to make it look cool but all I know is that a hornet from halo could easily proxy as a Stormtalon Gunship or even a orca from command and conquer

[@MikaelGrimm]

Should hold on to em for sentimental value

[@Michael_MW]

This^ Also after some time has passed, the nostalgia will grow and you may see people looking for OG style space marines. Plus having the extra minis means he can spot a buddy and army, or set up diorama’s with them, etc…

[@illegalaryan823]

I hate the primaris units and lore so I only use own and paint oldmarines, all you guys getting rid of your oldboys just fits perfectly into my old boyhood dream of having a chapter someday. Plus all of the oldmarines work well in Horus Heresy.@@Michael_MW

[@MaximusPrimer-nz2wm]

I am fairly new to the hobby so I don’t have any old models, but if I were you I’d use my old models as extras on vehicles or dead guys on the bases of your other army. That’s just some food for thought, hope this helps and I love your vids keep up the good work ❤

[@samuelsanders5755]

One think in the third tier that is 100% usable is the Vindicator. Those tanks put in crazy work

[@brandonadamek3123]

Love your enthusiasm man! I just kit bashed my first couple models yesterday. It was so much fun! Very proud of the customizations.

[@zackgarvin7810]

Powerfists on those old terminators look awesome

[@AuthIllustrator]

Every time I see your Black Templar collection I am inspired to continue painting my large, unpainted Hive Fleet Kraken Tyranids Army. Thank you for your painting videos 🙏

[@wanderingjack42]

I'm still collecting my space marine army 35+ years on from getting my first ones - RTB01 (have two boxes of those). I recently stripped a lot of them from all the random colours I'd painted over the years, so that I could repaint them all as one ENTIRE chapter. I have about 30,000 points! Wouldn't get rid of any of them, even the old janky ones that look silly, so some of them will live in the retirement home at the back of the fleet.

[@jasonwilliams74]

I’m glad you said scouts. Those land speeders and the scouts kitbashed together would be great a fast way for you scout squad to get where they need to go

[@VentBoy311]

I would take many of those old space marines and make a diorama out of them. A scene, a battle, an escape? Just something that Your Black Templars went through.

[@Michael_MW]

BROOOO! Epic collection!! Truly impressive work you have put into it. As an old Black Templar main I just want to say that our High Marshal would be proud of you, brother. I stopped playing 40k a while back and these days I mostly do AoS and am looking forward to Old World. I wonder how you feel about the "upscaling" of 40k? Personally, I am salty about the introduction of "bigger/cooler looking versions" of all of the popular minis. Now all of us old players who spent an eternity painting our beloved armies have to watch our armies get phased out??? Well, not *entirely* phased out, but who would want to run those runty little space marines when the new ones make them look like a joke? "They are fine, not good- but fine." Yup. Another issue I have with GW's choice here. They made the old minis "meh" and the new ones good to try to force their consumers to re-buy what is essentially the same army. (Why not make new sculpts, but the same size? Why must they always power creep?) Feels *super* scummy to me, but I understand that not everyone sees it that way. Some people defend the upscale. I say to them: Okay maybe it did need to happen, but if in a few years GW starts releasing "bigger/cooler versions" yet again then I believe my take will be vindicated. It feels sad watching you look through all of your beautiful work and consider which minis you can still run without it looking silly. As a loyal fan and consumer, you shouldn't be made to do that. Thanks for another great video Jay. I am a long time fan. :)

[@Chris-lr2qb]

I only have 5 old tactical marines, but they were the first minis I ever bought. They're only half painted blue and yellow but they're near and dear. After that, I have about 1000 points of Necrons from 2004-2006, similarly badly painted and broken in many places, but some of it has been rescued and repainted and has seen games in 9th edition.

[@zeterzero4356]

Tier three, I still love you even if Jay doesn't.

[@stigbeitelken5166]

Great collection, awesome enthusiasm and wonderful painting. Personally I've never seen the appeal in displaying a large space marine collection. The silhouette gets very monotone. Tons of medium-sized minis with tanks (boxes) and Dreadnaughts (cool).

[@miguipingui]

Every Monday I watch your videos when I'm at the metro and they unironically make me smile ❤

[@liamroche1295]

I think it’s great how attached to the army you are. My advice is not to eBay the old guys. They tell a story of your painting and hobby, and that to me is art.

[@Klotbeck]

the moment you look at the army and find the Terminator with your name on it. love it.

[@The_Mini_Creative]

I definitely get where you are coming from Jay. I started my Ultramarines 15 years ago. As time passed and I gained more skill the army evolved. I now have beautiful box art level primaris marines next to my thicc paint, primerless first born marines. I started stripping and converting my old marines (still first born) into veterans. My first ever warhammer models, a 5 man combat squad are now Sternguard Vets. However in my quest to unify my army I feel like I lost something. If I could do it differently I would have kept some of my old units as there were. Ultimate they were a point in history, a reminder of how far I have come. So maybe keep some of your old units as is. Perhaps in the future you will be glad you did.

[@TeroyanatorLS]

@1:26 Those are some handsome looking terminators front and center!! Great job with your collection. #I'll buy your first models!!

[@johnwycough1955]

Oh. I thought you meant "old" terminators. I have many, many metal ones. I just put them and their 25mm base on top of the 40mm and base. It helps make more uniform.

[@seanpearce7510]

For me, I sold off most of my old stuff of that I've acquired on eBay. I love the new aesthetic too. They just look so good. I am with my Dark Angels the way you are with your black Templars. I've only been into the hobby for a couple of years so I haven't been able to build much, but I'm building everything else before my Dark Angels because I want them to be flawless

[@boom-CM]

Every couple months we get to see a collection tour and it's double the size as last time

[@kenny9498]

You could build a shelf for the old Marines and remember where it all started for you I know I have some 2013 dark angels and I'm doing the same for them

[@hippieyoda1993]

You'll miss them if you get rid of them and regret it I reckon. Just put them in a box and make a collection of heartwarming minis that you can look at from time to time but don't consider in your head to be 'your Templar Army' if you get what I mean.

[@mailmansword164]

2:27 Not gonna lie, the moment I heard Jay say the word "Eragon," I started to cheer loudly.

[@josiahbassett9216]

I’ve became a fan of yours recently. And I’ll be going to adepticon for the first time this year. Hoping I’ll bump into you.

[@papazoulou9326]

Oh fuck, I didn't realize that the Redemptor was so huge compared to the venerable.

[@nathangerardy2669]

Before you consider getting rid of your old models, consider making an awesome battle diorama to preserve them for posterity. I saw a cool one Ninjon? Made that had them going back a few levels in a wall frame setup.

[@Velvet244]

I play Chaos so I don't need to worry as much but for the other factions in my Chaos army may be a stretch. Playing CSM mostly but with a smattering of other things like Space Marines, Daemons, Guard, Orks, Kroot, Sisters and other things that have fallen to Chaos as it is a lore based army ranging from 2nd edition. seeing this army of yours and hearing your plans just got me in the mood to paint more of my shame so thank you.

[@nick391nm]

I have over 5200 points of Dark Angels so far. I'm halfway through building my World Eaters army along with a combat patrol of imperial guard and just now started on building my Tau army starting with Farsight.

[@kevincutter5334]

Turn the old marines into corpse piles, that would be some cool terrain!

[@thenapalmbrothershq5585]

I kind of like your old scouts and I'm sure flyers will be good again one day (or they will be museum pieces because removed from game entirely).

[@WilhelmScreamer]

I am sad you have the vindicator in the "does not exist" pile Its very good unit *and* I would love to see what you do with the big canvas of the siege shield

[@sniperlemming]

I'm with you J, The Centurions are my favorite infantry models from the Space Marine line, I love the silliness of armor for your Space Marine armor. I liked your idea from a while ago about the centurion suits being dropped in via drop pod and a team of Space Marines intercepting the drop and donning the armor and wreaking havoc before doffing the armor once ammo is depleted or too much Damage is taken, and then continuing the Fight in their normal armor. It creates a really cinematic moment in my mind when they enter the battlefield now.

[@mercuryo3042]

Maybe using some old models as statues in a diorama would be fitting as a "Hall of Heros"

[@matthewplascak2685]

I love your collection. Currently working on an Ultramarines Gladius strike force with the layout from 7th edition. Had to change it up because they dropped some half of the list with 10th.

[@bryanolivermusic9011]

Dioramas! You're a painter, you're an artist! Take those old models that have been retired from gameplay and refurbish them into standalone visual art pieces. You can say "Over here is my Black Templar Army" and over here " are my battle scenes and dioramas inspired by old school 40k artwork and gameplay memories." I'm sure some of those models have some amazing gameplay moments from their heyday that you've always associated them with. How cool would it be to immortalize the time that one dreadnaught took down the enemy commander by refurbishing it into an action diorama!

[@tomojnr]

Jay please use your old dreadnoughts for a diorama and make a video out of it. That way you have recycled it into a display piece, scale wouldn't matter as you wouldn't be running them. (Would be fun to see dreadnoughts taking on a bunch of Roger rogers)

[@metajock]

Oingo Boingo. I knew I liked you. Seriously, start by finishing up your unfinished current-play minis. The repulsors and the terminators, swap heads on those scouts, etc. If you want to use the older dreadnaughts, replace the bases with something that will bring the existing models to the same height as the new models. That's actually a good idea with those marines as a whole, put them on taller bases so they match up height with all the new sets. Kitbash the weapons as needed, they're still good. I love the idea of updating the bikes. Wonder if someone out there has already made 3D bits for converting them?

[@AliceGind]

I have been adding a bit of greenstuff between their torso and legs and cutting the shins and adding in plastic tubes to make them the size of primaries

[@illmindinkorporatedfilms994]

Could use the scraps of what’s left after updating the old Templar as downed brothers who have died at the feet of the new Templar’s like just dead guys on the bases basically

[@carlsoll]

4:46 Woahh like the custom livery. Like those old American bombers

[@kimle1500]

I bought my old tactical marines into my imperial fists 30k legion. Mk7 did exist during that period during the siege of terra if I can recall correctly (mainly used as test pieces for new yellow formulas but incorporated into the legion anyway for games if I need to bolster points). The dreadnought collection would be cool if they were repainted and displayed as I feel they are iconic to the space marines. Otherwise I do incorporate some first born parts onto my primaris marines (mainly heads and helmets)

[@renekowalski4514]

maybe build up a cool diorama for your old memories, cool to add would be the most glorious fights you remember with them, so add a dead enemy or a fighting scene or else or maybe just put them of the bases, maybe of other armies, maybe as a dead one at an apothecary, there is much for you to thinkk and dont like throw them away, there will always be love for your old ones :D

[@jonneff]

I saw another video you did showing off all the black templars , and Im not even upset.. like I love the asthetic of the faction so much and your models are so freakin cool. I am only 3 yrs into the hobby and wargaming stuff so I don't get to play much. I just love to collect and paint mostly, but at some point I hope to have a super sized collection like that looking just so dope to show off !

[@RrHms2J]

It was such a liberating feeling to figure out that there is little chance I'll ever play an "official" match anywhere so I can do what I want with my models. I only ever play Path To Glory matches against myself, but it has been fun making a bunch of 600 point armies to go against each other.

[@11AleZZ]

What's Path to Glory??

[@RrHms2J]

@@11AleZZ It is the narrative play option for Age of Sigmar. You can start with 600 point armies and build them up over matches to be full. It's really good for using models you wouldn't in matched play.

[@ProAmateurGamers]

A diorama with craters and smoke clouds and squadies would be cool backdrop to done fancy characters

[@forresterdunbrook4536]

I also use my Dorito dread as a ballistus! It just makes sense.

[@BombingCarpets]

As a Drukhari player, any of the older models that I have that aren't *quite* antique and super cool get hacked up and used for basing material to make the newer models look cooler!

[@TheDemonGyro]

I'm playing on making my old space marines (dark angels) into a chaos army under Cypher. The demons will be angelic host sort of stuff.

[@loydheatoniii2188]

The perfect way to recycle all non primary space screens. As what's I have done is turned them into statues on the characters of my army and then I've turned a lot of the older space. Brains up on pillars as sculptures in a city looks really good that way. And I still use my old guys. But they're no longer being played in battle. They just have to come statues and I do pain them like they are carved. Or a stone carve statue

[@nunyabusiness4904]

I regret not keeping up with Warhammer, between my sophomore and junior year of high school my brother and I got into Warhammer Fantasy, and I built some Vampire Counts models, that Christmas we got some more models and we even pooled our money together and got a 40K sixth edition starter set but we never even built it. Shortly after we got it I got my first job, then I had a girlfriend and between, work, school, and friends I was just too busy to get back into it but it always sat at the back of my mind. Then recently I took almost a whole month off work and because I now live near a designated Warhammer store I decided to jump into it. Next time I’m home I’ll probably grab my old warhammer stuff from my brother.

[@cicadasigil9471]

You could make an epic diorama out of all your old fullas, let the old guard go down fighting like they would have wanted.

[@stevenolivas7262]

Wait that's crazy i've also been reading the Eragon series while painting miniatures. Such a good book series and i cant wait till they announce the show

[@TylerSantinelli]

I have a lot of Horus Heresy marines that I run in 40k (casually) I use cork on the bases (thanks for that) to give them some extra height, but mixed squads do still look weird. My short king chaplain is trying so hard.

[@Akavira85]

I have 15 space wolf dreadnoughts , 10th edition made me cry a little

[@grimdarkEarth]

The dominion box is a sleeper deal! It has all the models (minus chariot) that are going to be in the new spearhead box AND you get a decent starting army for the orruk warclans... great giveaway EoB!

[@ErrenaGlaciell]

At this point you must have enough old stuff to create a mini (heh) museum for yourself somewhere in your house 😂

[@tomw8865]

Would you ever do any sort of games or battle reports on the channel? Would love to see your army in action or even just hearing more about them?

[@odharrison23]

I really enjoyed the promotion ceremony for the deredeo dread. You know what else has a huge rod……that’s right our patreon!!!! Thanks gents!! Fantastic as always!!!

[@bluesheepminecraft]

I DEMAND a vehicle painting video for those impulsors. My fav vehicles in the primaris range.

[@jonpru82]

Strip your old minis and paint them in a retro style BT paint scheme; goblin green base and all.

[@Meako92]

Those are old dreadnoughts are closer in size to the centurion war suits, could be a cool proxy

[@JoseTorres-wp4qw]

These video are my favorite, your army showcase.

[@yoshi3665]

make a crusade diroma display with the retired units charging towars to their final battle, where the smaller models are far back so that it creates an extra depth too.

[@jacobdobrowski3166]

So, I have 2 Ideas for your old models. One, you could turn your firstborn into a start to a Horus Heresy army. Templar Brethren are a thing for Imperial Fists, and they were one of the only legions to have Mark 7 during the end of the Heresy if I remember correctly. Or two, you can make a diorama/board of some kind. Maybe an Assault on Blackreach board.

[@ezrodeo]

my recommendation save a squad of your favorite tactical, it because of a kitbash or paint job. Also save your favorite character and dreadnoughts, maybe give them a modern paint job and sell the rest. Otherwise you might end up like me and buying back the ones you absolutely love again.

[@itsyaboioiyboi5901]

Holy shit I’ve been trying to think of what kind of bones I can use to snakebite up my beast snagga army and never considered hobby lobby dinosaur skeletons. Bless you

[@musicalDrebin]

your old models are awesome, you should be proud of them. :) my first model, an Iron Warrior, is a hot mess, but i still like looking at him.

[@maxsavage1684]

Eyyo my family and I came up with a solution to this problem back in 9th edition. All the sexy new Primaris models made the old models look poopy but we kind of enjoyed the later editions “gameplay-wise” better, so we made and house rule to only use Primaris with when we play editions 8 9 & 10, and the older models for games of 4 5 6 & 7. There’s no rules saying you have to play what’s modern if you liked what came before better. So every once in a while we play games with either all Primaris in new editions or old squatty marines in newer ones.

[@CPyJIb]

Rhino is a Whirlwind if you find/print a rocket launcher. So a win win for me. My old Dreadnoughts were converted to Bjorn, Murderfang and 3 more Wulfen Dreadnoughts with the help of one SW Venerable Dreadnought kit and some 3D printing.

[@Meako92]

Whirlwinds just caught a smack from the nerf bat

[@CPyJIb]

@@Meako92 yes it did and still on the edge of usability, probably better then plain Rhino.

[@Colonel-zg9wz]

(homebrew chpt, but part of this still applies) My oldest marines have either been inducted into my lore, made int sternguard and other vets through modding, or get snuck into a tactical squad

[@gregsmw]

i had 5 og origional monopose plastic marines, you knoe the ones that are a single lump of plastic with the bolter held across their belly when i got back into the game in 8th they were my only SM models, so i chaosed them up a bit with some spikes, they still look AWFULL and sit at the back of my display shelf my army colour scheme has changed (like 4 times) since i painted them, most of my army is new models so they look tiny, my painting is way better then it was when i painted them so they just look baaaad im literally never going to use them for anything BUT, they were the first things i did when i started back up again, so i like keeping them around just as a reminder to how far iv come whenever im unhappy with a paintjob, i can just hold it up next to one of those guys whos armour base colour i didnt even paint, i just left it as the black primer, and think "yeah, this is still great, even though im not happy with it now, the me from 4 years ago would be amazed"

[@COMMISSAR_CHIABUS_CHODE]

have you considered making the remnants of your BTs into legion of the damned? green stuff them with fire and make a massive diorama of the times you've had with them

[@L00ww]

i love seeing entire armies of other players

[@raygagnon1564]

I would love it if you made another what to buy for kill team video with updated stuff! 😁

[@Tectonix26]

Ive turned my old marines into a homebrew chapter, I'm 5 companies strong and still going, no primaris in sight yet.

[@marcwittkowski5146]

Its kinda funny to me how Jay is brainstorming what ti do with his classic Marines and doesnt count them as being a part if his army and here I am building an old school BT army worthy of 4th-5th edition, loving the nostalgia and preferring the Firstborn sculpts and lore.

[@highbrowstonebender7063]

I bought my first models (Dark Angel Combat Patrol) in June of 2023. It is now February of 2024 and I have about 7000 points of Iron Hands (3000 painted) and another 3K of NiB Astra Militarum I have told myself I will not touch till Im done with the Iron Hands. I'm pretty sure I have a problem. Fortunately for me since I am new into the collecting and painting hobby, so I have about 90% all Primaris models which are indeed sexy.

[@einsnullvier4091]

Don´t kill your history. Do not crack and convert them - they deserve their place in your collection for what they are. Your old trusty guys.

[@tibi423]

Make a diorama? Recreate the iconic John Blanche artwork, or a scene from Helsreach

[@joshuabrowncrow]

Yay! The Templar March!

[@FredTheBeard]

I can't believe Jay painted those old terminators when he was only 7 years old

[@LeonardoVotto]

Use them for bases of vehicles and more on your titan!!, just up the kill count on those diorama bases

[@darbydolan4655]

Would love to see more updated videos on your collection! Super inspiring man!

[@Fuzzycat16]

I would love to see you paint some Adepta Sororitas.

[@albiewhite8913]

Make a crusade diorama with the old models. That way they live on as a shrine to the battles of old.

[@amoryburgess]

What you also have is a Horus Heresy Templars army...The Deredeo, the old terminators, and the firstborn.

[@iamnash]

Convert those Rhino's to the Death Guard?? HERESY!

[@kennymartin5976]

Make a museum diorama with the old minis and stick em in the Prismatic Galleries where they ought to be!😂

[@alexanderk.7782]

the old vehicle and Fly Ship, base for Nurgle stuff who overcome and infist the SM