Retro OOP Warhammer 40k Collection!

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[@KeithCrowe]

The horned skull is used by the greatest of Space Marine psychers as an hommage to the most legendary sorcerer in human history. Some called him...Tim?

[@jasonfeagans3456]

Well done, sir.

[@tonyennis1787]

Why does this only have 5 upvotes?

[@KeithCrowe]

@@tonyennis1787 Three shalt be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shalt be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out.

[@simonoconnor7759]

The terminator captain is a Rogue Trader model (1st edition), not 2nd edition. The librarian force sword is absolutely standard. Every librarian model with force sword has it. Turmiel from dark vengeance has the same one, as does the last plastic librarian, and even Jensus Natorian, the Blood Raven Deathwatch librarian. The horned skull is the symbol of the Librarius, and represents the mutation of the human genome that led to psychic powers. Also, the old beakie marine is on the Rogue Trader cover. You absolutely have to paint him as a Crimson Fist. The consensus is that his load-out is power fist and plasma pistol.

[@hypernautic]

Was going to say the exact same thing about the Terminator Captain, yep 1st ed from 1989. I've recently bought two squads from this era worth of them and am going to paint them up as they where back then just for nostalgia and to play some Space Hulk. Blood Angels and Deathwings.

[@ratspike8017]

Also, the `gun' on the power fist is actually a grenade launcher. There were rules in 1st ed Space Hulk for this.

[@stephentate2722]

The ram's head indicates he is an Epistolary Librarian, the 3rd rank and highest behind Chief Librarian. Below that is Codicer (2nd Rank) and Lexicanum (1st Rank)

[@FolowNet]

My man

[@cavemanbum]

3:22 - from what I remember of this model's particulars, the terminator captain here was armed with an auxiliary grenade launcher built into his power fist.

[@Slev00]

This is 100% correct, even rules for it ion 1st ed Space Hulk!

[@1987Hades]

When you get your hands on the Witch Hunters codex you'll find that that is actually a Power Stake not a walking stick: A long iron stake that immolates as it pierces the body of a psyker. Counts as a power weapon but wounds psykers on a 2+. Not too shabby

[@JMcMillen]

Against some armies that Power Stake was a bit over powered.

[@Keltik0ne]

The termy captain has a grenade launcher on his powerfist. That used to be a thing.

[@elrondorio]

And that terminator sculpt was released before 2and edition 40K was released so it was Rogue Trader edition.

[@asmodai29]

And it is once again a thing in the latest codex. Also they "re-did" the Captain in both his Power Armoured version (one of the earliest "Limited Edition if you spend X amount") as well as his Terminator Armoured version (hence he is in the latest codex) as part of their nostalgia drive/old school resculpts. You can probably find him on google but they both have the skull covered scabbards on their power swords much like the originals. ;) EDIT: just checked and the Terminator Captain was the Limited Edition store opening model and the Power Armoured Version was a Web Exclusive for their new store launch in 2014

[@asmodai29]

@@elrondorio The Space Hulk Terminator box set with the original Captain "Cloud Runner" Ezekiel

[@frizzank]

That is a legal build in 9th edition.

[@thejonathan130]

@@frizzank Anything on any edition model should be legal.

[@Bluecho4]

The Terminator Captain's leaning could be compensated for by cutting him off his slot, and pinning him onto a base that slops upward slightly. Like he's trudging uphill to the edge of a cliff. That way, his pose is leveled out, but not in a way to exposes the unnatural upturn of his feet. It would seem like a natural pose.

[@EonsOfBattle]

that's a good idea

[@waynepedley5395]

I also wonder if you could remove the front half of the feet, and sculpt a replacement at a different angle using green stuff.

[@PhD777]

When I got mine, I bent the feet slightly - he was walking through tall grass so that helped.

[@KabinMiniatures]

Those old Genestealers had a long service record in the hobby! I remember buying them in the early 2000's when Tyranids got their 3rd Edition Codex and they were already old by then...

[@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t]

They're certainly at least very similar to the Genestealer models that came in both Space Crusade and 1st ed Space hulk, which puts them at over 30 years old.

[@baalrog887]

I'm pretty sure I had mine in 4th/5th edition

[@StumpedIDIT]

Old minis bring more joy to me to paint than modern day minis

[@ur_dad_is_hot]

So true

[@thejonathan130]

They're less stressful to paint for some reason.

[@ur_dad_is_hot]

@@thejonathan130 less detail probably

[@radeksmid6593]

I feel the same. Primaris stuff is simply boring to paint, for me at least.

[@tonyennis1787]

Jay's enthusiasm helps. And old models, which are sculpted by hand, are a series of compromises. That creates a certain character that today's perfect and amazing minis do not have.

[@milankoomyjski6073]

The pattern on librarian' s sword is still present on modern models, it is just librarian only thing.

[@aaronvining2336]

I’m so glad you were right about Primaris terminators

[@graefx]

My friend as that skull scabbard terminator too and I don't know what it is, but I love him. GW did an anniversary update of that model that I covet. 5th edition era will always be my sweet spot where everything had a lot of charm and simple sculpting but pretty good details. Just before finecast.

[@koridoragon6394]

his terminator prediction was right on the spot though

[@theezekarion164]

That weird "Ram horns" is in a Chaos lords package. Makes them look like a "Flintstone Bowling Club Member" WOOOGA! WOOOGA!

[@thewanderingfool4435]

I love seeing the old minis, especially minis from the 90's. Thanks for this it was a real hit of nostalgia/blast from the past.

[@mobilegamersunite]

I love the old models! I'm getting all my old squats and chaos squats out now. Great video as always 😊

[@MrBsMaths]

Your content is so wholesome, keep it comin!

[@bioshock745]

the only minis i have left are from 89 - 90s they are still class :P never painted since then but love to watch these mini you tube channels to check out peoples work :)

[@tjdoc143]

I love the old models. I recently added a few old Dark Eldar models to my collection. The RT marine’s face looks like the original version of Palpatine in TESB. Great video, as always!

[@kingodacheez3416]

Regarding the rams horns on the skull: maybe GW is tipping their hats to Monty Python. There was a magic user in 'The Holy Grail' that had ram horns on his head! ;)

[@DustyTheKitty]

I'd be tempted to put the MJ Terminator on a raised slope, like a cliff, would both address the lean and the height of the model and make it look as though they're looming over the battlefield from their vantage point.

[@moschaboy12]

You were the chosen one Jay. You were supposed to destroy the retro hype not join it.

[@seanwilliamson5720]

One of the things I love about the miniatures hobby is the diversity and history as it progresses. From the models range to the lore, love it all. Excited to see an upgrade for the terminators line.

[@xxxyz721]

The terminator captain is a classic sculpt. Needs to be painted up as a blood angel. :). Look for the old white dwarf painting guide….

[@steve-xt1zg]

The terminator captain was part of the 1st metal terminator box set which came out around the time of space hulk 1st edition and the two expansions. One of the expansions had rules for the boxed set, new weapons s and characters including the captain. The weapon on the fist was a grenade launcher which he could fire down the corridors..... great fun!

[@STSGingie]

I've really enjoyed your retro mini videos. Seeing what modern painting and hobby techniques can do with them is very impressive and inspires me to collect more OOP Tau and Necrons.

[@demon_lizard_from_outer_space]

This was really fun to watch! Great to see people appreciating this old sculpts!

[@PhD777]

Excellent video! Definitely a trip down memory lane. Back in 2e, I had 100 of those Genestealers - no two had the same are positions - they were painted like fireants! (In fact, I had 10,000 points EACH of Marines (BLACK TEMPLARS 🤪), Orks, Genestealer Cult, Tyrranids, Genestealers, 15,000 points of Imperial Guard, 2k Eldar and about 1.5k or so of Chaos (Noiese Marines anyone?)! Lost interest in 3rd ed so traded it away ffor 28mm Essex Greeks and tons of other Historical miniatures since that was my first love and I was pursuing my Masters in History in at the time. Note: Lead in not poisonous on your skin as the molecule can not be absorbed through the skin as it is too large. It is only toxic if you ingest it (so no chewing on or playing with toy soldiers then sucking your fingers); wash your hands thoroughly with soap and water and you will be fine. (Been in the hobby since the early/mid 1970's when miniatures had far more lead in them; handled fishing weights, ammo and musket balls with no ill effect!) 🤪🎅😜 Finally, a miniature can be a model, but a model can not always be a miniature! You were handling metal MINIATURES and plastic models. 🎅

[@tony_ellis]

@ 15.56 - please paint this dude! you can do a great job, I have faith in you

[@coneman844]

I bet that space marine has a great personality

[@maxbrandt6]

The space marine captain in Terminator power armor has a grenade launcher attached to his power fist. The little thingies on each finger are Jokareo digital lasers, if you were wondering and yes, there were rules for that at one time. Also, I think you just coined a new term for a bad miniature: a "Ral Partha reject!" Good call, Jay!

[@adeptofthecodex6759]

I love 2nd edition models! I've been building the Ultramarines 2nd Company entirely with 2nd edition models for the past year. Getting all the models to fill a full company was difficult but doable with eBay.

[@sanguinumlacrimisofangeli3076]

I can't wait to paint my Space Crusade Chaos Dred. It came out 8 years before I was even born but it's ED-209 vibe is so nice

[@stephenjdutton]

When released the gun built into the terminator captain's power fist was a grenade launcher. Last year I undertook a project where I put together 40k armies for the current codexes using only Rogue Trader vintage models. I managed Dark Angels, Imperial Guard, Orks, Eldar, Chaos, Tyranids and a Genestealer cult. Also can you describe the Necron Lord you are looking for? I have several of the original version with a tall head, cape blowing to the side and holding a staff of light. All metal, no plastic parts. This predates the green rods. One is just undercoated and will probably never be painted by me. The staff of light arm is not glued on but I do have it.

[@katoshithedevilofthetenthh8254]

3:53 I just remembered that the Captain in Terminator Armor that GW did for an anniversary, I think it might be a revamp of that model! That's actually amazing to think about

[@seanwilliamson5720]

And another thing I enjoy as you describe the models, is how you interpret what this model is saying. I do the same before posing and painting. Each figure has something that it is trying to say, and is fun putting your little sprinkle of back story to each piece.

[@JelloMiniatures]

Old models are so lovely.

[@kenupton4084]

The Librarian model is wearing a necklace with a talisman. That's why it's off center. It's the motion of the models swing. The rams horns represent mutation. All librarians are supposed to be painted completely blue except for their chapter badge shoulder pad. The lighting up the blade is the 'force' conduit.

[@Dragon_Werks]

That Captain in Terminator armor is FIRST edition. The weapon on hispower fist is a Jokæro mini grenade launcher, whike he has 4 Jokæro digital weaons on his fingers (lasers and needlers).

[@scoutjax3202]

Terminator caption has a grenade launcher and was first out in 1st Ed. Box had the cap, sarg, squad with flamer and assault cannon, and a psycker. The one marine you showed was also 1st out in 1 Ed in a box of 15 marines no special or heavy weapons. I had both.

[@alankelly1001]

Damn you !! Now I'm reminded of all the old metal in my (very heavy) box of shame. Models going back to around 1988 (I stared collecting in 1996, but sought out old models that were still around then)... yes, I have that 1st edition terminator captain, as well as old 1st edition chaos terminators.... and back in the day, ALL terminators leaned forward with their heads stuck way out. The glory days of Inquisition models were around those "Daemonhunter" and "Witchhunter" codex books... great Inquisitors, great henchmen (you could even run Adeptus Arbites in the Witchhunters codex, as counts-as Inquisitional storm-troopers... I painted up two squads of old early-2000s metal Necromunda enforcers as classic Arbites)

[@FunkBastid]

I’m currently putting the final touches on my 3rd tallarn squad (with 6ish more to go), and they absolutely make me look like a better painter than I am with how much the wash gets in the crevices. I also have the models for at least one squad of each guard regiment from the old metal line save the catachans.

[@kennymartin5976]

The Terminator was like " Emperor help me! This floor is mad out of floor!!"

[@EridianX]

I found a box that had a bunch of stuff that looked vaguely like warhammer 40k, but they were TINY. Like super super tiny. After digging apparently they are from an old line of stuff called warhammer epic scale or something like that. So i got a whole tin full of vehicles, and soldier blocks sitting in my room now lol. I think they are near 30-40 years old because i remember seeing them as a kid before too and that was over 20 years ago, and they were already pretty old looking back then too lol

[@joesturn7740]

Those OG Genestealers are WAY more fun to paint than the modern ones. I have 2 of them and had a blast getting them ready.

[@ShallowVA]

I have some of those old genestealers mixed in with my modern ‘stealers! You’re right, they look great alongside their newer brothers.

[@daiatnara971]

I love seeing these old minis still in use - GW's had an intriguing history, I feel like whether they were bought new way back then or sourced from ebay now, having a few retro minis in an army shows appreciation of the weird journey 40k's been on. When I decided to get back into the hobby at the beginning of the year the first thing I did was haul my old 40k boxes out from under the stairs to see what'd been dumped in there that could be of use in an Emperor's Children force - I've finished painting up a first edition Space Hulk plastic terminator and an RTB01 marine, and there's a v1 Keeper of Secrets, plastic terminator Librarian, and single-piece metal mk5 Heresy armour marine, and some of those old Genestealers waiting their turn (not that you'd normally find them in a chaos army, but my theory is Slaanesh can seduce *anything*). And props to the sculptors back in the day, they don't look half bad alongside new troops.

[@MrMatthewPR]

Love my coincidences. I've just been painting up an old terminator Rune Priest I found in a box. It was missing its hammer but I did have a random power claw I crafted on. The whole fuss with that also inspired me to Primaris him up by extending the torso and giving him a more dynamic posture. Metal minis are hell to kitbash though, and I had to cut so many pieces off to repose them :)

[@BryanAudor]

Can't wait to see these painted up!

[@crowythebutcher6127]

It took me so long to find that witch hunter inquisitor with flamer that didn’t have the flame broken off the gun…. Then I snapped it off opening the package when it arrived. If your after inspiration for painting it there was a paint off in white dwarf 292

[@EvLmongoose]

I have that exact "Black Templar" captain. i just stripped the black paint off and can't wait to see what you did with yours.

[@aaronbrown4275]

Librarian Epistolary! Back when your Librarians had levels. Also, them warp beasts tho. They're so ugly but charming.

[@stephentate2722]

This is correct. Epistolary, Codicer etc.

[@papabear6837]

I have a bit of a retro obsession at the moment. With the squats coming back I've rather keen to try and get some oop retro ones so when I start a Leagues of Votaan army, I can have one squad of veterans. I am also eager to get a praetorian IG army. I'm on the look out, again for at least 1 squad of retro Praetorians to make up a veteran squad whilst the main bulk can be the new Wargames Atlantic minis. I have however also be looking through my old models recently because of my new interest in retro. I work in a charity shop and on very rare occasion, we've had retro models come in. Of course I've snatched up anything of interest and also whatever doesn't sell to save it fro, the scrap heap. But looking through it, I've found some nice stuff. An old Commissar Yarrick (like 1990s yarrick) A rogue trader inquisitor in terminator armour Rogue trader librarian in terminator armour A space crusade dreadnought with some other models from the same box Old space marine scouts (possibly rogue trader) Blood angels Captain (possibly 2nd edition) An old metal dreadnought I also got from work 10 metal cadians, 10 metal catachans, and I also already owned 10 metal valhallans and 10 metal steel legion. (No praetorian though 😭) I also managed to get part of the old hero quest box. A plastic wizard, Elf, dwarf, human with some plastic skeletons. All still on the sprues. It's so much fun seeing all these classic mode,s which look crap by todays standards but are full of their own unique charm

[@BlastedRodent]

This video made me finally pull the plug on buying the metal lady inquisitor (plasma pistol version) that’s been gathering dust in my FLGS for a long while. Also, witch hunters codex is amazing.

[@MiniatureMasterClass]

"dumb Buzz Lightyear appearance" is the best description I've heard of Oldhammer Space Marines. They are derpy and charming at the same time. So glad GW introduced Primaris models to replace them.

[@chrisattwood5930]

The terminator captains weapon on it's power fist is a grenade launcher. I used to have this model, brings back memories

[@tonyennis1787]

The sculpts at 20:30 are outstanding. Great detail.

[@helio1055]

I have a full army of OOP Dark Eldar models and the one you’ve shown and they’re the absolute coolest looking army when set up on the table

[@MrGibsn1960]

Hey now... I'm from 1982 and I can only hope that I'm hanging in there. Lol I have a bunch of old 2nd ed models. A load of Marines and eldar. I have a handful of old nids too. Actually, I have one of the 2nd Ed zoanthropes on foot of you want it. Still new in package.

[@tonyennis1787]

16:45 those genestealers are badass. They seem to be what came in a 2nd ed (?) box of Space Hulk. These sculpts tell you everything you need to know about genestealers.

[@SethLooks]

In my 2nd Ed IG army back in the day I used different style guardsmen for every squad painting in matching colors. My concept what they were just throwing everyone together

[@Cerderius]

Interesting, that Inquisitor has Fluer de Lys on its knees, might be one of the few instances we've gotten of a Sister Inquisitor

[@Krooow118]

FYI about the old RT capt, That back pack is a separate piece. The Metal backpacks are very rare

[@devlaminckx3382]

I still have a few old eldar models in original packaging. The ones where they still wore chaimail underneath their armor.

[@adamstockton3401]

Watching this after the announcement of 10th you predicted the terminators being scaled up and not changed loads

[@oskar6661]

The Librarian model you posted is from the 2nd edition release of the newer librarian models. Similar to Warhammer Fantasy at the time, all psykers in 2nd edition were generally available in three or four tiers. Librarians had classes/ranks: Lexicanum, Codicier, Epistolary and Chief Librarian. The model you have is the Epistolary version, or Level 3 of 4. GW used to release numerous "special" models at once. The Librarian launch included three different metal minis, and then a fourth in Terminator armour. I believe a bike Librarian followed after the release of the later plastic bikes, etc.

[@oskar6661]

Oh, and Force Weapons, as well as Witch Blades, etc. were...staggeringly powerful in certain conditions. 2nd edition was miles above modern 40K in terms of craziness. No other edition has come close to matching the lore in the game. It was 50% role-playing game/50% wargame. Easily breakable by gamers, but no version has touched the madness of 2nd edition.

[@alessiodecarolis]

I remember these old minis, the old RT Space marine captain probabilly was a miscast, because I saw some of these, and they've a regular head. I build a whole heavy weapons squad with 2nd edition marines, and probabilly you're right about the genestealers' paint job , old Humbrol's where incredibly hard to remove!

[@lachlancampbell3310]

OMG! I had that Beast Master and some Chimaeras when I was a kid, this video unlocked a very old memory, great finds!

[@chrisbaldwin8570]

Inferno Pistols aren't hand flamers. They are pistol Melta guns and are extremely powerful. The Inquisitor was one of the highlighted models of the Witch Hunters Codex, using the Inferno Pistol, Power Stake, and Power Armor. Witch Hunters had so much fun stuff in it that was weird and wacky while being extremely powerful but limited in some way.

[@TheDyslexicDragon]

Paint the genestealers as Xenomorph (Alien and Aliens) colour scheme :)

[@Johndoe-co3pw]

I’m soo close to buying this large old eldar army I have to repeat to myself I will not add to my pile of shame!

[@DrFruitsaladPhd]

based on the weird references you see in old GW, I guarantee that the skull with goat horns is a reference to Tim the Enchanter

[@Cody10069]

Hmmm 1492. Thats interesting

[@Del_S]

I've been plotting a 2nd edition minis based Chaos Gate army, basically recreating the units available in the original game as a tabletop force.

[@ml6158]

You really need to paint all these up. I'm a sucker for old hammer

[@nanktank]

That Librarian from memory was an epistolary (level 3) the ranks were lexicanium (level 1) codicer (level 2) epistolary and chief librarian. (Level 4) level being the number of different psychic powers they could take.

[@Azoth86730]

Inquisition was also going to get their third Codex in 3rd-4th Editions for the Ordo Xenos army. Codex: Alien Hunters, which never came to be sadly.

[@ricoqwertz123]

I actually like the old genestealers! I repainted mine last year and they fit perfectly in my hivefleet!

[@johnmertens3022]

You can also do the victorian guard(yes this exists) if you can find them

[@ChristopherSmith-dq2xs]

The older models were great because the teenage me could afford them. Six plastic marines for a fiver. Easy to paint and practice on and build an army with. It's part of why I prefer Battletech and Firefight, the first has sweet detailed models and the second is affordable (and has 2nEd 40k like rules).

[@daviddryden7668]

I'd love to see you improve on those Chimera, wow that model is... something else

[@KiwiTheIguana]

When I got into 40k, it was the tail end of 7E, so I picked up Dark Vengeance before it went OOP, but I never got around to painting the Librarian or the Captain(?), so I found their models a few days ago with the intent of painting them up. It turns out that the pattern on the sword goes just as far as it does on the old model! Actually, looking at it now, their swords look almost identical, with the same horned skull on the top of the grip, the only real difference seems to be an aquila pommel on the new model rather than a skull. Edit: You were kind of right about the pattern going halfway up the blade, that's how it is on the currently in production librarian models with swords.

[@gkeaton9755]

Demon hunters was the original old school, first official showing of the Grey Knights, Witch Hunters was the first official codex for Sisters of Battle. I guess I am officially an old fart now, as the black templar marine and inquisitor models are considered "retro", and I remember them coming out.

[@marcusthethief3947]

That old terminator captain did have a reissue as a limited collector model back in 2016

[@fallstar7013]

The primaris librarian has a very similar pattern sculpted onto his sword, it's a really nice touch!

[@MasterShake9000]

The lean forward is common to a lot of metals, but is more pronounced in the RT-era Termies (Chaos Termies are equally bad). My suspicion is that it has to do with the depth of the molds, and in order to fit the bulky upper backs of the Terminators, the model had to be cast at a slight forward angle, which in turn requires the feet to be angled so that they still slide directly out of the mold.

[@thrilliod147]

Love the Smooth Criminal terminator

[@smeebo86]

Hello Jay just to let you know that terminator captain you got is a super early 2nd edition and the gun on his arm is a grenade launcher! I think this guy was my first captain model when I was young

[@liamroche1295]

I love how you have the gal to reduce probably the greatest sculptor/ designer in games workshop history work to poopy haha

[@michalbadocha5503]

This rogue trader marine from 14:29 looks exactly like the one on the cover of Warhammer 40:000 rouge trader book, that gun etc only mirrored (the one with ork head in hand :D)

[@catcadev]

I think the IG could totally get updated. Theoretically, making generic multiple arm and torso options for raggedy, ornate, or muscular arm/torso, then making a regular infantry and maybe a heavy weapon kit for each regiment. 2 kits per?

[@kingfield99]

I had that 'falling forward' Terminator Captain in my Legion of the Damned space marine army back in 1989/90, even then I thought it was a mis-cast mistake that he was at such a weird angle.

[@YamabushiSpirit]

I've got some old school jump marines still in pack! :D

[@tonyennis1787]

15:50 I don't think this model is as bad as you think. It has great detail but much is hidden under what looks like Testor enamel paint. Can't quite tell what's going on with the face, but it has a cyborg eye. Looks like it was dropped and flattened the nose. Extra points for the proto-beaky helmet!

[@SebastienlovesCookieswirlc]

The thing on the terminator captan is a grenade launcher, used to be an option back in the day.

[@valdemarjakobsen9553]

Dam, was here to say it.

[@bopaintsminis]

You know, I have noticed a trend on youtube lately, almost a revival, a desire to get more Rogue Trader influence in 40K. I don't know if it started with the announced squat reboot or just before, but I am all about it. Bring back some Rogue Trader into our bland 40K existence. Time to #make40kweirdagain.

[@BucketAnimations123]

What does oop mean? Old old people? Orange Overpowered pies? Ordering oval plates? The terminator: hehe

[@benny9371]

Would love to see you do OOP the OG Gaunts Ghosts kill team (as well as a comparison to the modern box)

[@McTwistyFlop0]

4:00 that statement did in fact turn out to be true haha

[@Krooow118]

The Captain in the Terminator armor. The weapon on the Power Fist is a grenade launcher. That was a standard load out in Rogue trader