Hybrid vs LPVO. What's better for you?

[@jonnyt16]

I sold all my LPVO's a few years ago and stuck with the hybrid system. Just makes more sense to me.

[@terryderush2657]

So when SHTF were, are you going to get your batteries?

[@jonnyt16]

@@terryderush2657 I live in reality, not in SHTF fantasy land. If things are that bad for that long then I'm dead anyway. So are you.

[@MustHaveJustice]

@@jonnyt16😅 that’s hilarious dude. So true.

[@bailenjones5950]

Rechargable batteries with a portable solar charger

[@Heywoodthepeckerwood]

Unless you can build a great firing position, an lpvo is a major disadvantage to me. I’ve tried to love them as I’m into long range shooting so wanted a longer range optic for my 18” rifle. Sold them and use a G45 and exps3-4.

[@-joe-davidson]

I use the EXPS3-4 on my AR15 with a G45 magnifier and I use a Vudu 1-10x28mm on my AR10 since I'm typically reaching out much further with the 10.

[@WisSota_Boy]

Went back to hybrid setup after finding out LPVO wasn't for me. Much better shooting results for me personally.

[@Cimino1138]

I do both! Why choose when you can have the best of both worlds. My DDM4 has Exps 2-0 green w/ G45. My secondary build has the Vudu 1-8 (Love them both). Glass is crystal clear, Eotech is my only choice for optics 🤘🏻 Thank You!!!!!

[@mateo1726]

Whatever fits your rifle usage is the best optic.

[@jayleon6176]

I just never get arguments about this. If you anticipate that your fights are mostly close-mid range, go with red dots + magnifier. Otherwise choose LPVO or MPVO with red dots as backup. The idea is to not search for a perfect solution for every scenario possible.

[@damionblack4877]

You already said it, good to use for identification not just out reach

[@maximusjoseppi5904]

your zero never changes on a second focal plane scope or a first focal plane scope regardless of the magnification setting. the center of the reticle (your zero) will always work, the center does not move or change. the thing that changes is the reticle's features... so your hold overs, windage markers, moving target markers, or range indicators, if there are any, are designed to work on the maximum magnification with a SFP.. however, if you zero at 100 yards, you will be able to make hits from 0-300 yards by holding center of mass.. basically, if they are far enough away to need to use your reticle's features, you will be at max mag anyway. SFP offers far better illumination and better 1x performance.

[@brandonwardlow4246]

I personally don’t like LPVOs because of the eye relief being so short. I love the EXPS 3-0 combined with the G45 5x magnifier, makes the additional 1x zoom you get out of the LPVO isn’t worth it.

[@eotechinc]

To each their own!

[@drownthepoor]

I currently use a Sig Romeo5 red-dot with a Holosun 3x magnifier, and it works for what I do. But the combo you have is what I've been considering getting. Just can't justify putting 2 grand into it at the moment. I think a LVPO would be suited for an AR-10 or something with more reach where you're taking resting shots. At the same time for a gun like that maybe just go for a 10x scope.

[@brandonwardlow4246]

@@drownthepoor it’s a pricey setup for sure but worth it in my opinion. Save up for one at a time over a long period of time and boom you have it before you know it.

[@maximusjoseppi5904]

bro the eye relief on your g45 is 50% less than a LVPO haha. most LVPOs have a 3.5" eye relief, your G45 has a 2.6".

[@matjan3244]

What are these rifles? Pads looks amazing ! Battlelink?

[@IWONUMAD]

ATF be watchin 1:08

[@556guy4]

I own the primary arms 1x6 with nova reticle. Has the fiberoptic reddot. It is daylight bright. I really like it. I use it as a reddot at 1x and go to 6x when I need to reach out and touch someone.

[@mojo_dojo_]

you are never going to need to reach out and touch someone 🤣

[@aftermath2333]

Call me crazy but a LPVO on 10.3/10.5 is it necessary? The hybrid makes more sense than LPVO that’s my 2 cents.

[@captureoutdoormedia]

On my Home defense/GTW rifle I run the Holo. On my hunting rig I run an LPvO. Looking at buying the G43 or the G45

[@brighthought11]

I prefer eotech or red dot + magnifier combos and ACOGS'S over lpvo's personally, I'll take a lpvo on a bench gun

[@The_John_Galt]

Does the OGL has VCSEL laser and illuminator or only illuminator?

[@scottfields33]

Both

[@The_John_Galt]

Can you verify everytime they have mentioned it they only say illuminator and standard laser. But I’m just looking for verification

[@eotechinc]

@@The_John_Galt Both yes.

[@nastysoda9212]

0:34 notice the difference in black color of the magnifier and optic? The magnifier is the "new" micro 3x magnifier made in China and assembled in the US. The paint is actually very shiny and not matte, like the optic or their regular 3x magnifier , which is awesome. The new Chinese made stuff is garbage, which includes their Micros's and 5x magnifier. You can tell just by looking at this video and the time stamp I have. It's really sad that a company decides to produce garbage from China to save a dollar but make a VERY sub par product. I bought their 5x magnifier, and when I recieved it I would've bet my life it was a chinese knock off, but it was a legit eotech. It's complete trash comapred to their older 3x that is made in the US. Even the damn logo paint is peeling off. can't hold zero(center), crap glass, terrible eyebox.

[@ChuckSneed88]

Yea dawg eotech is in a sad state. At this point I'd just go with an ADM 3x magnifier.

[@kamikazelyricist1563]

Not to mention the cost. Eotech is ridiculously expensive

[@brighthought11]

very sad to hear, whats funny is, Trijicon's 3x magnifier is also made in china... but its the best one I have used to date..

[@drownthepoor]

@@brighthought11 I've only had one magnifier, it's a Holosun 3x. Had good reviews, and it feels pretty sturdy. But I have nothing to compare it to. I was looking at getting an EOTech and the G45 for that 5x, but now that I know it's Chinese and at that price? Glad I know now, and not after.

[@BobFinklemiester]

I've tried to find this information but I can't find anywhere that says they are made in China. Where did you read this?

[@alfredjr2k556]

Both of them I like it.

[@ChoddedNloaded]

The first magnifier I got was a g45 then I also got a hm3x then I got a vortex viper pst and honestly the g45 was the most worth it for me idk

[@Ohkayechill]

What extending stock are you using on the smaller rifle? I like how it leaves face rest and extendes but second question I am buying the G45 do you recommend I take that route or just stick with the famous 3x I do want magnifier availability to reach further since you make them I want the highest quality one

[@kyzmn]

SBA3 and honey badger brace

[@mizrahimsephardi5214]

either or will be more than capable of putting rounds on target, I say, get the one appeals to you the most.

[@nastysoda9212]

Your 5x magnifier feels like chinese junk compared to the 3x. Please don't cheap out on your products anymore. I have 4 EXPS's, 3 magnifiers and 2 vudu's. They are my go to's. But the 5x magnifier is pretty bad, TINY eyebox, not the best glass, zero shifts after flipping side to side. Even the logo's paint is slightly crumbling off, and it's not a chinese copy, I verified with eotech support.

[@lucaswoods1155]

I think it’s partially made in Japan

[@nastysoda9212]

@@lucaswoods1155 the VUDU's are, the new magnifiers like the micros and 5x are definitely chinese made, but "assembled" in the US. The quality of the VUDU's is as good as it gets. I love them. Even the paint on the 5x and micros feels like chinesium junk.

[@nastysoda9212]

@@El_Marzocco after switching the magnifier to the side and back, once or twice, the center on the magnifier will be off, I sent it back to eotech thinking my mount was defective, but the new one they sent does the same thing. After reading online, it's a very common issue. So I have to cosntantly re-adjsut the centering adjustments on the magnifier. The G33's I have never do that.

[@nastysoda9212]

@@El_Marzocco Did, it wasn't making any difference. I wish it did. Thanks though

[@ayushchoubey635]

Do we need to zero the magnifiers too ?

[@Rangergeo85]

I love my vudu 1×10. Have multiple eotechs and magnifiers. All my go tos. Im surprised at the reviews of the g45's

[@korcla5668]

I know very little about Eotech. Are the g45 reviews good? Bad? Thanks

[@nastysoda9212]

@@korcla5668 The G45 and new products are chinese made and "assembled" in the US. So they put one screw in once it gets to the US. This includes the new pistol red dot.

[@Rangergeo85]

@Kor Cla A couple of people i know have said they feel cheap compared to the g33.

[@drownthepoor]

@@nastysoda9212 That's kind of upsetting, not gonna lie.

[@finianholland7654]

What is the difference between eyebox and eye relief?

[@j777]

I think it's the black when moving side to side vs black when moving in and out of the sweet spot.

[@andyslaybids]

Can you take the magnifier off the the Hybrid and just use as a HWS?

[@rileysorber6875]

Yes you can. Put it on a quick disconnect and it's easy.

[@pyroromancer]

NV?

[@kamikazelyricist1563]

How's about working on the cost. Bring that down a bit for goodness sake. Smh

[@brighthought11]

no joke lol! never gonna happen, these companies are in the biz of greed, the employees are not seeing the benefits, why do you think LMT QC has gone to crap.

[@zack9912000]

Dont ask for them to be cheaper. The quality will be affected. No hard to shop around and use discount codes for a cheaper price.

[@dakotachavez7312]

Buy once cry once

[@kamikazelyricist1563]

@dakotachavez7312 Yes, we all know that phrase. Congrats.

[@ColdWarVeteran-r2j]

If you want Chinese prices buy Chinese.

[@rickypickles2219]

i want to get a vudu but all I run are holographics with magnifiers...idk why but its whats comfortable If i had to put my life on it

[@chuckbenzing134]

Instead of the magnifier flipping L to R can it be changed around to flip R to L?

[@RobotPanda15]

Hear me out Gents. We do a Vudu 1-10 And an offset EOTech with a flip to side Magnifier

[@eotechinc]

We’re game

[@boygonewhoopdataZZ]

ACOG piggyback is superior and weighs the exact same as a magnifier and EXPS

[@JEJAK5396]

Nope.

[@guitarthrasher81]

There is no superiority. Everything has pros and cons. Automatically I can tell you EXPS beats out a piggyback ACOG in night vision shooting, red dot FOV, point of aim/impact zero, and overall 0-100 yard capability. The Eotech hybrid system is CQB first, up to 300 yard/PID with the magnifier second. The ACOG/RMR is mid range first (200-600), CQB second. If you're in a city, the acog setup sucks. Prioritize CQB. If you're in rural hills ACOG/rmr. Because mission comes first. Dont say apples are better than oranges

[@caseybrewton9254]

Exps 3-4 would like to disagree. Better fov, ballistic reticle, better 1x, better NV. Only downside is battery life.

[@BrowneNorton-h5u]

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[@arcuz7862]

Simple. 300m encounters with at best peasant level accuracy= hybrid setup. 300m+ encounters = LVPO.

[@robert.brogan3247]

Yee past 300 meters 556 is almsot useless. It will have less then 500lbs of force which is not considered enough to hunt big game.

[@sublimetulii23]

.223/5.56 isn’t made for hunting big game. It’s barely enough to kill a white tail deer & realistically only out around 100 yards with a great shot placement. You need to step up in caliber for longer shots than 100 yards for deer & anything bigger. .308 Winchester is great for almost every big game animal in North America.

[@possumpatrol45]

Reject optics. Return to irons.

[@JEJAK5396]

No.

[@kxkxkxkx]

Co witness is the way ☝️ and the light

[@CaptainCreampie69]

Practice with irons and hope you never need them, optics are significantly better and it has been proven.